infact the compilation is so advanced it finished compiling them before youve even made them
#lounge
proud jay
it's not hard to remember though, it's every day
summer cedar
This game is disappointing me.
They have still not added resolution options to their demo; its screen sizing is non-existent; there are no speed options.
🙁
Lessaria is a better choice now, than Crown of Greed.
coral widget
damm more things please
They forgot to add whichever brand of coffee they consume and the toilet paper as well.
pearl elk
Who Gives a Crap is the best toilet paper 😛
proud jay
you would think these crypto scammers would know how to take a screenshot
celest musk
This game is disappointing me.
what game is that?
summer cedar
what game is that?
Crown of Greed.
celest musk
playing AoE4 atm when bored, and it kinda bores me already too... 😄
summer cedar
To be fair, they have introduced a few additional hero classes since the first demo.
I never got into AoE 4 after a few minutes.
celest musk
is it an RTS like Age of Empires?
summer cedar
somehow.... it was weird.
celest musk
never heard of it
summer cedar
Everything else is fairly automated.
celest musk
only game i know where you play as god is Black & White 😄
summer cedar
You just decide where to plop down structures and offer bounties.
It's kind of like Black and White.
pearl elk
Populous and From Dust
pearl elk
what new language?
did you add the latte keyword?
all it needs is some syntax sugar and 🤌
cursive crypt
Okay what the hell I just seen
wdym?
Ppl talk about the end of win10 since months 🤔
median wraith
But it's this month
pearl elk
Win10 was crap anyway
cursive crypt
win11 is just shit tho
pearl elk
Microshaft
cursive crypt
Win11 is the DLC
summer cedar
As punk-ish as he might have been in real life.
mild gust
Hemp batteries :o, https://x.com/RjNol/status/1977818997241368599
X
summer cedar
They said Win 10 will be the final standalone product, if I remember.
Win 11 is going to be continuously upgraded instead of releasing incremental versions.
median wraith
Yes and UE5 on DX12 run X10 times faster than DX11 they said st the first
If you didn't noticed it then is skill issue
pearl elk
DX12 in my experience has NEVER been faster than DX11
median wraith
For me actually went worst
errant raven
I broke through one wall just to hit a fuckin nother
median wraith
The claim that DX12 is ten times faster is a misrepresentation; while DX12 offers significant performance gains like up to 50% lower CPU overhead and faster load times, these are not a uniform "ten times" increase across the board. Performance differences are specific to the game, the hardware, and the optimization of the developers. Some games can see a jump in frame rates and smoother gameplay, while others may still struggle or perform better with DX11, especially if they are not well-optimized for DX12.
Thank you AI
Yeah 50% faster yes....
pearl elk
oh is that my problem, my CPU is too good 😛
median wraith
And the last update claims is again 10 times faster
DirectX speeds up game loads up to 10X with new advanced shader compiling — feature debuts with Xbox PC app on ROG Xbox Ally and Ally X, more devices later
Yesyes
pearl elk
I already had that, its called an ssd
median wraith
Technically now is 200x faster than DX11
You can tell
As we say in spanish
The intelligence is fast, but this dude is faster
pearl elk
apparently we are actually going to get another Xbox console
but whether it'll have anything new... I dunno
median wraith
Well the new generation is about release
Just after GTA
This current generation added to the relationship the same of returning with your ex
Is a step you can skip
pearl elk
whats the bet old gen consoles will run like ass for GTA and its an excuse to sell you a second copy for the nextgens
median wraith
whats the bet old gen consoles will run like ass for GTA and its an excuse to se...
Don't need to
I mean current last consoles should be decent to run that product
But will have cuts compared with the next
UE5 got released on a strange period
And almost all the releasing features still in beta or in development
pearl elk
GTA wont have RT GI 😹
pearl elk
your game would sell better on OF
summer cedar
I have doubts about this.
summer cedar
If Steam already has his money, that means the products were sold and therefore, a payment processor processed the sale.
Steam is holding his money IN a BANK account.
mild gust
Yeah but you gotta remember
summer cedar
That means it's something else on his side.
summer cedar
It's entirely possible he hasn't registered his business or doesn't have a current account.
mild gust
UK doesn't want people to make money off porn
summer cedar
Then why would the payment processor actually process the sales?
mild gust
Because they are wack
summer cedar
If it's blocked, it's blocked for everyone; not just the developer.
Nope.
Study the case; learn details.
Then you'll see the problems.
Or move on to next deepfake. 😄
pearl elk
they shouldnt need to tell the bank about the money coming into the account tbh
pearl elk
the bank will see who its from when its processed
summer cedar
The point is, the money has already been processed by a bank.
There is no Valve Bank.
Or Steam Bank.
Or Bank of Video Games.
mild gust
Sounds made up
summer cedar
If a sale has been made, the money is IN A BANK. Which means a payment processor processed it.
I bet the dude never registered a current account.
Depending on the amount, a bank will decline receipt of business money into a savings account.
pearl elk
tax evader
mild gust
Na I don't believe it for a second
I'll keep blaming the UK
It's easier that way
Shouldn't have left the EU
summer cedar
You have to blame the UK regardless.
It's a silly business regulation that a current account is needed for business income.
mild gust
Well duh
summer cedar
This whole idea of dividing accounts into separate categories is old fashioned, since we do have GST these days.
summer cedar
But, that's not just the UK.
pearl elk
this person could just have a terrible credit rating
mild gust
Bring back cd roms
summer cedar
Current account rules exist in almost all countries.
pearl elk
but in that case, surely you have a friend who you owe money to you could ask
summer cedar
this person could just have a terrible credit rating
Nah. I bet it's business registration problems.
upbeat token
i love work
mild gust
This would never happen at Taco Bell
summer cedar
but in that case, surely you have a friend who you owe money to you could ask
Yeah, it's 90,000 pounds. No way that'll be classified as just personal income.
mild gust
I made it by selling plasma
summer cedar
Half a dozen plus demos.
summer cedar
I made it by selling plasma
Go to jail.
summer cedar
Installed all of those.
mild gust
What
mild gust
I'm ngl I didn't even see any bell peppers
mild gust
Classic
summer cedar
mild gust
This happened in Italy the other day, https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1977642464803786786
X
pearl elk
Yeah, it's 90,000 pounds. No way that'll be classified as just personal income.
thats not really a matter for the bank, thats for the tax department
summer cedar
thats not really a matter for the bank, thats for the tax department
It is depending on which account you have, in many countries.
pearl elk
well they dont have an account 😛
summer cedar
You won't be able to withdraw that much directly into savings account.
mild gust
Lies
median wraith
@trail ore look at the particle billboards
summer cedar
well they dont have an account 😛
what?
pearl elk
thats the whole point of the post, they cant get an account
mild gust
Banks be like no
summer cedar
thats the whole point of the post, they cant get an account
No. They are saying they can't transfer the money into the account.
As in no bank will accept the transfer.
summer cedar
Not that they can't open an account.
mild gust
UK doesn't want to support it
summer cedar
Which means it's the wrong type of account.
mild gust
UK may as well just ban porn
pearl elk
youre telling me they opened an account with all these banks just to check lol
mild gust
Sounds fake
summer cedar
youre telling me they opened an account with all these banks just to check lol
I am saying we don't have all the details.
pearl elk
one of them they said they had an interview, you dont do that for a transfer, you do that for a business account
mild gust
Should have made non-adult games.
Wouldn't have had any issues.
Too many snowflakes now can't make money how you want anymore.
pearl elk
sounds dodgy to me
summer cedar
He could just open one in another country. 🤷♂️
mild gust
That's what I'm saying
mild gust
Bank of America
median wraith
tomorrow here nobody works because of Palestina
median wraith
didn't trump already ended the war?
summer cedar
They give credit cards; very popular around the world.
summer cedar
didn't trump already ended the war?
Hamas conducted a public execution on Monday.
mild gust
didn't trump already ended the war?
Not to the terms the protesters want apparently.
summer cedar
So.... no.
pearl elk
I swear theres something big going on behind the scenes all these rich people arnt talking about
everything looks good on paper but everyones acting scared
median wraith
Hamas conducted a public execution on Monday.
yeah I know it
mild gust
The people were still protesting last I saw saying to end the war 🤷
It will never end.
Until all the Jews are killed.
median wraith
I didn't call this, the whole country decided todo this for whatever reason
pearl elk
when a company with huge cash reserves like MS is acting odd you know somethings up
summer cedar
I didn't call this, the whole country decided todo this for whatever reason
and you are sad because?
mild gust
China be buying up mass gold to
median wraith
and you are sad because?
no, just saying
mild gust
This year alone they almost tripled their supply
median wraith
I don't get why people don't get out because other wars or other broken rights
summer cedar
Because they don't care.
mild gust
I don't get why people don't get out because other wars or other broken rights
Because that would make sense.
Why care about Christians being butchered.
summer cedar
They care about IS-Gaz, because Israel, because US.
mild gust
No one cares.
mild gust
Let the Christians in Africa be culled it seems is the modern sentiment.
median wraith
Why care about Christians being butchered.
right, in africa
mild gust
or the middle-east
The Druze were just recently targetted yet again.
But no one talked about that.
Only the Palestinians still.
Shocker.
Also claiming the Palestinians are starving and dying of malnutrition when there's been less than 500 that have died out of 1.2 million or what ever.
More die in non-war torn countries from starvation so..
Really hope this Unity vulnerability get fixed quick to by devs. Scary times to be a gamer.
summer cedar
Why are you rambling? 😄
mild gust
Boredom
summer cedar
Moredom?
mild gust
Oui
summer cedar
Loui?
mild gust
In December, as we roll out age-gating more fully and as part of our “treat adult users like adults” principle, we will allow even more, like erotica for verified adults.
ChatGPT erotica!
summer cedar
Also da phuk is a verified adult?
pearl elk
I have Death Stranding with photomode so Im all good
summer cedar
There are teens with full adult-y beards.
mild gust
Also da phuk is a verified adult?
A 30 year old w/ depression
summer cedar
Okay. How do you verify that as ChatGPT-owners?
pearl elk
Im still upset theres no good unlocks after 18
summer cedar
Im still upset theres no good unlocks after 18
You bought the pauper's package.
pearl elk
I feel like I should get something at paragon level atleast
summer cedar
Rich Pirate's Gorge package has great unlocks at 18.
mild gust
Im still upset theres no good unlocks after 18
What do you mean you get wonderful DLC unlocks
Like arthitis
or back problems
pearl elk
definiately living the AAA then
summer cedar
Lame character background choices, you guys made.
I get restaurant discounts, free sample sweets and pastries, gentlemanly treatment in most places I go, great chauffeur services, etc. etc.
👼
Roll your dices better!
pearl elk
median wraith
okay
I as playing and the vv stoped orking
lol
fucking keyboard dieter as right
oh back to work
pearl elk
back to vverk
summer cedar
DAYYYLISHEEUS coffee. 😄
mild gust
Hoot hoot
summer cedar
@broken sigil Have you played The Casting of Frank Stone?
Seems like one of those games you like to play.
I am going to fight some undead now.
Undead Kingdom Survivors
Yes, why didn't you think of it before?
Well, the game's nice and all, but it's not 'fun'.
They've got all the elements in there, except for that one crucial one.
summer cedar
@median wraith Interested?
mild gust
<@94317435246620672> Interested?
summer cedar
The Cube, Save Us demo
summer cedar
https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-shocked-jim-carrey-awooga-gif-5428977
denied.
median wraith
<@94317435246620672> Interested?
looks like one of those daz3d renders
mild gust
I'll just make a metahuman version nw
summer cedar
looks like one of those daz3d renders
So... above your class then? 😄
mild gust
Ikr where's mine!
summer cedar
Ikr where's mine!
Send me your address.
I'll send you a box (3 bottles).
NOT by US Post, sorry.
I'll use reindeer.
median wraith
So... above your class then? 😄
I have a strange taste tbh
mild gust
Khalistani truck driver is there, don't worry.
He's probably the one that drove that tanker
summer cedar
I have a strange taste tbh
Well, I don't know if this is a beat'em up game or not. I am going to start a session.
mild gust
They for sure never made it out of that truck
summer cedar
Oh, oh.
I am about to be sorely disappointed.
This is an online PvP game, I think.
I found Hevedy!
median wraith
summer cedar
Ok. It has solo mode.
median wraith
well I think I have better face than that, but worst body, so is fair
median wraith
all the games looks the same to me at this point
pearl elk
US military dont use humvees anymore
soft night
pearl elk
apparently it is yeah
median wraith
THAT ONE
that's the correct new little nightmares
and not the other one
yes are the original devs
summer cedar
Oooh. Supah max quality with lumen + post process GI and Quality DLSS = 36 FPS. 😄
soft night
little calamearies
median wraith
Oooh. Supah max quality with lumen + post process GI and Quality DLSS = 36 FPS. ...
jesus
summer cedar
I was ganged upon as I used my toilet paper.
I found Dieter.
Ok. It's fun, but a big buggy.
I cleared one of the zones and the game still declared me dead.
Yay for demos. 😄
median wraith
oh siet this looks nice
yet the performance is real bad
and you can tell is UE5
shuttering in a 2.5D game
summer cedar
shuttering in a 2.5D game
Lumen Software SDF Ray Tracing is better. 52 FPS instead of 40.
I like this game though. I think I will review it. 😄
median wraith
looks nice but tbh the performance is real bad for a game where you see only one room
summer cedar
how bad is the performance?
summer cedar
I really should do the tutorial.
mild gust
Sounds like the play
summer cedar
Hey @median wraith , you'll love Astro Flame.
Turn on autofire and just dodge with mouse.
median wraith
well this one is nice graphics, nice feedback nice effects
median wraith
someone of you paint ?
pearl elk
I like to paint with a flamethrower
median wraith
I'm actually looking now for ink pens
summer cedar
Think of Dink Smallwood.
mild gust
I'm fond of finger painting
mild gust
X
summer cedar
hard woods, you mean.
summer cedar
https://x.com/China_Fact/status/1978107585266925798
when it doesn't slip and roll over.
mild gust
So fast it sparks
mild gust
when it doesn't slip and roll over.
That's a feature not a bug
summer cedar
I am going to be so disappointed if this turns out to be some gacha-style game.
But, I'll try it tomorrow. Enough for tonight.
summer cedar
I don't mind passes. I just don't want to run a lottery every second screen.
median wraith
median wraith
damm from 24 to 28 is the same almost
summer cedar
Have you given up game devving and decided to take up sidewalk painting to make money?
💰
mild gust
He might get stabbed if he did that
Competitive market
Mafia gotta run that racket now
summer cedar
Just tell AI to render watercolour paints of your choice.
Rip it off to make textures.
Done.
So long as it is not a Lucifer ™ porn game, you'll be able to transfer sales to your bank account. 😄
pearl elk
Free the porn game industry
-game
mild gust
True
summer cedar
Question. Is there a stripped down empty project file for UE 5.6?
With plugins disabled and all?
Barebones?
I have one, but that's set up for SM6, Lumen and RT.
I wonder if I should make another one in potato mode.
summer cedar
@trail ore You have a friend.
2nd line. 1st sentence.
that's sad.
ask AI to read it out loud for you.
in a sexy voice.
pearl elk
sexy ponkey voice
summer cedar
A Wuping for his Wupong!
pearl elk
that landscape system always sucked tbh
summer cedar
Yeah, but that guy says 5.6 broke his landscape setup.
Ponkkis had a similar problem, too, no?
pretends Ponkkis is not in the room and refers to him in third person
pearl elk
surely everyone is smart enough to dupe the project when moving versions right
pearl elk
screen space isnt lumen no
summer cedar
So, there were non-Lumen versions of them then. Gemini told me I can disable that for SM6.
Yeah. I asked Gemini what I can disable for SM6-only. It put that in the list.
No. I am making SM6-only projects.
pearl elk
maybe gemini could finish SSGI for Epic
summer cedar
I don't want old plugins active.
Is it necessary to disable these for final packaging?
Doesn't UE get rid of them by default in the final package?
soft night
Stargate SG-1
summer cedar
phew.
Can't read, remember? 😛
Actually, I thought that's what UE already did.
I was surprised Gemini advised disabling them.
Okay, so there's an old ray tracing plugin and the SM6 Chaos ray tracing plugin?
median wraith
whats going on with that ?
summer cedar
whats going on with that ?
This - #lounge message
pearl elk
I didnt even know you could disable those like that unless Gippty is lying to me
summer cedar
I didnt even know you could disable those like that unless Gippty is lying to me
It's almost the same answer that Gemini told me.
pearl elk
pretty sure you dont select platforms as plugins
summer cedar
I am not sure about disabling Vulkan.
Some people's buckets get better performance with it.
pearl elk
it made the decision to target DX12 only on its own
summer cedar
what was your prompt?
pearl elk
D3D11RHI is a module though so you could probably remove that entirely
my prompt should be on the link
summer cedar
No. It starts with short answer.
pearl elk
pearl elk
I try not to use acronyms because they can be domain specific, mines set to unreal engine mode but I treat it like a child
Im worried I'll come out and say UE one day and it'll just spitting out C# for unity
I asked it abvout something the other day, what was it
summer cedar
I didn't know VSM took over traditional shadow rendeering methods.
median wraith
why you want to remove those?
pearl elk
thats right, fentanyl production in the USA and it starts making python scripts to detect shady business practises 😅
summer cedar
why you want to remove those?
Again - #lounge message
pearl elk
I didn't know VSM took over traditional shadow rendeering methods.
less memory consumption
summer cedar
thats right, fentanyl production in the USA and it starts making python scripts ...
Unless it decides to 3D model meth and shade it for ya. 😄
median wraith
yet unsure why
summer cedar
less memory consumption
Yeah. But I didn't know there were 2-3 plugins/modules/whatev that you could kill, and VSM does that by itself.
summer cedar
yet unsure why
Making only SM6. Simple.
pearl elk
theres not a whole lot of reason to support older APIs anymore now Win10 is officially off the stack
mild gust
We smuggling meth beer now, https://x.com/HoCStaffer/status/1978107459697803310
X
summer cedar
I decided on SM6 long before that.
median wraith
Making only SM6. Simple.
why you would make that
pearl elk
We smuggling meth beer now, https://x.com/HoCStaffer/status/1978107459697803310
but they stopped all the illegal shipments of maple syrup so its okay
mild gust
but they stopped all the illegal shipments of maple syrup so its okay
This time
summer cedar
Doesn't that liquid meth smell different from beer?
summer cedar
why you would make that
and because I don't want to support oldies.
mild gust
Doesn't that liquid meth smell different from beer?
Quite different yup
But maybe they were already drunk af
summer cedar
So, they had become American? 😊 😛
pearl elk
Oh I see why it assumed MS APIs only for SM6, they probably have different terminology for the Vulkan equivalent
mild gust
Possibility
summer cedar
Oh I see why it assumed MS APIs only for SM6, they probably have different termi...
Yes, Vulkan uses a different module or something.
Whatev. 🤷♂️ I just like keeping that around, because Path of Exile sometimes runs better on Vulkan, for some peeps.
And Gemini says you can still render the final project with Vulkan, with just a few tweaks or somethin....
Well, this is all well and good, but I am not spending another 3 hours on a UE project file. I'll check my blank project tomorrow and see what I can tweaky-tweak-tweak.
pearl elk
SM6 the first versions go back to Oct in 2021 so its not exactly new
summer cedar
Yeah. I ignored it in the beginning, with UE 5.3-4 something.
Now, I ignore the oldies.
🤣
median wraith
SM6 is since before of UE 4.27
pearl elk
pearl elk
thats quite old hardware if you look up kepler, its still Nintendo Switch lol
most AMD SoCs are RDNA2+
median wraith
the fact you are using AI proof you don't really know what you are doing right
pearl elk
Id never use AI proof lol
median wraith
thats 10 points for honest
something I wish is you can bake lightmaps outside of UE
and import
also vertex ones
pearl elk
isnt that how they did it in Mirrors Edge?
median wraith
no
pearl elk
I coulda sworn they baked the GI in Mirrors Edge externally and imported it in, maybe they did use a third party plugin to do it in UE
median wraith
no that I'm aware of
pearl elk
X
pearl elk
The Beast by Illuminate Labs by the looks, I thought it was done externally
pearl elk
I definitely see some benefits to realtime lighting but surely we dont need the entire scene fully raytraced
there has to be methods to do it but more optimised with the amount of data, thats what VXGI and SVOGI were all about Im sure
main issues with those sorts of methods from what I was told was as the resolution increases the performance decreases quite dramatically
cursive crypt
The fellowship of chads
pallid hawk
errant raven
I have spent all day learning Japanese grammar
Godan verbs are confusing
But finally do I understand
median wraith
I was there bob I was there multiple times
Ironically weapons are less harder for VR than non VR
Is harder to make a good weapon on non VR than VR
soft night
yeah even throwing the weapon is powerful
white oxide
Ironically weapons are less harder for VR than non VR
no large scale movement animations
let the players animate
white oxide
nah its all those fcking meetings about meetings
unborn lotus
X
white oxide
but also https://x.com/the_atomgame/status/1977720171356725438
SO glad im using my novels to fund my game dev cause id paint the walls red trying to figure that out
unborn lotus
but is that not the best way to do dialogue
white oxide
but id rather PAY someone to do it
summer cedar
Good morning! 🌞 ☕
white oxide
Good morning! 🌞 ☕
wintry elm
anyone here from grimlore games ??
cursive crypt
Nah, they sound too grim to me
pearl elk
They dont use Unreal Engine do they?
cursive crypt
GrimEngine maybe
summer cedar
Some people are truly stupid. There is a new fad going around, called bluetoothing.
It involves injecting the blood of already-intoxicated or drugged people into your body, to 'get high'.
Da phuk?!
summer cedar
exactly. There's been an uptick in HIV infections.
And Britons are calling rigid discipline in spending practices 'revenge saving'.
Uh, I believe it has ALWAYS been known as prudent financial discipline.
proud jay
millenials are destroying the drug market!
summer cedar
not to mention becoming uppity.
Thinking they've discovered things that didn't exist previously.
👀 Indians will be able to use UPI in Japan very soon ™ .
No need to change rupees to yen. 😄
mild gust
Rip the opium farm, https://x.com/KirkLubimov/status/1978229597125632299
X
The people charged, 🤔
Sukhdeep Dhanoa
Gurpreet Singh
Kulwinder Singh
mild gust
Ikr
proud jay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwTJ-G_Qrjs
yeah I saw this, it's like 140 bucks though geez
muricans really do be making too much money
or spending at least
summer cedar
51st state, bro.
proud jay
well, that's north america
summer cedar
M00rican.
mild gust
Well yeah
Americans use youtube more than Canadians so 😛
Surprisingly a lot of us still boycott it
mild gust
Mcdonalds here is stuggling 😂
proud jay
but there's not really any viable youtube alternative tbh,
mild gust
Or at least has been
Since tariffs
Rumble is okay
But it's full of alt-right wingers
proud jay
it sounds a lot nicer thanks to the reverb
proud jay
very cool
median wraith
Good morning
median wraith
**Hero Siege**
That's a good game
pearl elk
ugggh looks like Im stuck with Lumen... le sigh
pearl elk
if only it were that simple, to get the non-lumen feature pipeline it requires a rollback to UE4
mild gust
ugggh looks like Im stuck with Lumen... le sigh
Why
pearl elk
basically both Epic and Nvidia dropped support for anything non-RT so theres not even an UE5 branch with HBAO+
mild gust
Cherry pick it?
pearl elk
Enlighten requires license
UE5 has GTAO which is better than SSAO but guess what
Lumen 😅
summer cedar
Doesn't Gippity have a way of disabling Lumen?
mild gust
Gippity has many ways of things
pearl elk
it did give me some ideas on automating doing a heap of cvars but alot of settings require full restart
I cant just flick on/off and compare
summer cedar
life
mild gust
True
pearl elk
pc restart is faster than engine restart
mild gust
r.Lumen.GlobalIllumination 0
r.Lumen.TranslucencyReflections 0
r.Lumen.Reflections.Allow 0
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather 0
r.LumenScene.DirectLighting.Off 1
r.DynamicGlobalIlluminationMethod 0
r.ReflectionMethod 0
yeah but now youre left with nothing to turn on because Epic removed most of the good non-lumen stuff 😛
proud jay
so really, you're the problem
pearl elk
I want dynamic lighting just not the blurry crap Im getting from Lumen
summer cedar
Cal, I don't know if this will help you, but Gemini told me last night that NVidia has two separate plugins for GI and Raytracing.
mild gust
Idk why you would 😂
summer cedar
Can you use the RtxGI plugin?
pearl elk
Im gonna blame AMD then since I have one of their cards
pearl elk
but I never had an issue running HBAO+ on AMD tbh
mild gust
Apparently it fixes a lot of artifacts from previous upscalers
pearl elk
FSR4 is meant to be slower on my hardware than 3.1
mild gust
Fair
pearl elk
but I have tried FSR instead of TSR and it fixes nothing
pearl elk
the blurring Im encountering is in the original render no matter what the resolution
unborn lotus
I want dynamic lighting just not the blurry crap Im getting from Lumen
blurriness or streaks?
mild gust
9070 XT?
pearl elk
blurriness or streaks?
both and noise, moire patterns on decals... all sorts of artifacts
pearl elk
I have a 6900XT, not the best for lumen to be fair but its not THAT old so I want to support this level of hardware
median wraith
if only it were that simple, to get the non-lumen feature pipeline it requires a...
No really, you can go 5.4 or 5.5 bake on the probes and the end
mild gust
I bet you could get Lumen running decently
I had it working on a 2080 super
Not "amazing" but it was playable.
pearl elk
its not the FPS thats the issue, its that software lumen looks like shit
pearl elk
BL4 runs pretty well but it just proved to me its not production ready
mild gust
You tried BL4?
pearl elk
some bits look great, others are just artifacts and smudge
mild gust
There's been UE5 games that I've played with Lumen that have looked less blurry.
Not entirely sure if it's their settings or what.
Could also just be the atmosphere of the game
It benefited from lumen
pearl elk
There's been UE5 games that I've played with Lumen that have looked less blurry.
which ones?
mild gust
Silent hill 2 was 1
Lords of the Fallen was another
Pretty sure it used all UE5 features
pearl elk
are you running software Lumen or hardware?
pearl elk
yeah thats why then
mild gust
But I can't recall if those games had it
Lords of the fallen originally didn't for sure.
Because it wasn't even in UE5 yet.
To be fair when it first came out it was unbalanced af.
It ran nice
Just the gameplay was janky
median wraith
I'm still on 4.27 and happy with my decision
pearl elk
I can recreate most of what I see in a new project in UE5 so its definitely not just a settings thing
unborn lotus
both and noise, moire patterns on decals... all sorts of artifacts
i only notice those streaks on high contrast, but otherwise it's okay for me. a lil bit of jittery shadows sometimes, no blurriness
pearl elk
4.27 was abit annoying how it rode the middle between 4 and 5, nvidia doesnt have a VX build for that one but I think they do 4.26
median wraith
mild gust
Lol
median wraith
4.27 was abit annoying how it rode the middle between 4 and 5, nvidia doesnt hav...
You have RTXGI for that one
pearl elk
i only notice those streaks on high contrast, but otherwise it's okay for me. a ...
I get major noise in all lumen games moving from indoor to outdoor or vice versa, it makes sense and its part of the technology but Id prefer to rollback even if the result is less realistic
yeah everyone complaining about software companies dropping support but Nvidia barely supports anything for more than a heartbeat
median wraith
RTXGI and lumen on last versions are about the same cost, and about quality maybe are kind alike tbh
mild gust
I think one of the worst when I tried was Stalker 2
It had some janky ass lumen implementation.
median wraith
The Finals
pearl elk
RTXGI and lumen on last versions are about the same cost, and about quality mayb...
unfortunately Im on AMD and RTX isnt a thing
median wraith
Still using RTXGI
unborn lotus
I think one of the worst when I tried was Stalker 2
did they fix any of it in the new patch?
mild gust
did they fix any of it in the new patch?
I havn't tried recently but I did see in patch notes many fixes for various things.
median wraith
Works even on non RTX gpus
mild gust
I plan to try again soon
pearl elk
The Finals is one of the better looking UE games Ive played if Im honest, Hellblade 2 the noise wasnt really that much of an issue since it fit with the film grain
unborn lotus
I havn't tried recently but I did see in patch notes many fixes for various thin...
apparently 1.6 adds and fixes a ton of stuff, not that previous patches didn't
but also night vision is back
mild gust
I saw they hopefully fixed the AI
unborn lotus
The Finals is one of the better looking UE games Ive played if Im honest, Hellbl...
just add some film grain bro
mild gust
So that is exciting
pearl elk
just add some film grain bro
add all the film grain and make the focal length short AF
unborn lotus
So that is exciting
i also want to jump back in and see how much nanite meshes they used lol
pearl elk
just blur all the backgrounds with DOF like they do in most TV
mild gust
i also want to jump back in and see how much nanite meshes they used lol
All of them!
unborn lotus
just blur all the backgrounds with DOF like they do in most TV
and 24 fps cap for immersion
mild gust
That's the way to do it
unborn lotus
That's the way to do it
doing game art is joyful again since I don't have to bake anymore
pearl elk
I guess Im following Embarks lead atm with an RTXGI and AngelScript build 😅
but I'll have to wait for them to catch up
pearl elk
doing game art is joyful again since I don't have to bake anymore
they just replaced the baking process with AI gen 😹
mild gust
doing game art is joyful again since I don't have to bake anymore
Agreed
When I was learning UE4 it slowed me down a lot lol
unborn lotus
When I was learning UE4 it slowed me down a lot lol
when i was trying to make a game with ue4 it also sucked because I had to rebake lighting all the time. glad it's over with that
median wraith
Well give a try to RTXGI
But yeah if you don't have a Nvidia GPU for the editor
Idk if the baker will work properly
Also something you all are ignoring is the new UE5 BUTTON to bake light probes only
pearl elk
I just want a dynamic solution which doesnt rely on RT hardware, if the lower end cards were actually capable it wouldnt be an issue
median wraith
That takes 1min to bake all the scene
pearl elk
pretty clear to me that RT is still quite a ways off the mainstream, if you want cheap RT atm you just watch a streamer play CP2077 on their 5090
median wraith
I mean do what it works for you
But for me still today RT games or even non RT games, something like those little nightmares from yesterday giving 50FPS with noise all over the screen on a 3070RTX TI is kind of sad to me
pearl elk
its like you said Crytek were doing this stuff ages ago and we still dont have a decent dynamic non-RT pipeline. All those resources funnelled into RT over these years and its still no better
median wraith
Used to be hacky and still hacky yeah
pearl elk
so its not that I have a problem with RT just that Im stuck in the middle with no decent renderer
mild gust
when i was trying to make a game with ue4 it also sucked because I had to rebake...
Same
median wraith
Crytek wasn't RT, but well I see what you mean
mild gust
For dynamic lighting?
pearl elk
yeah I dont need RT is kinda my point, my games are largely no where near realism based. I just want a solutiont hat works but its always far more complicated than it needs to be
for me I want to focus on the gameplay, thats important to me so when Im off in the weeds of all this renderer stuff its frustrating
thats why I chose UE5 to begin with in specific, newer versions because there are tools there to improve gameplay production
median wraith
For dynamic lighting?
Static mixed with dynamic
mild gust
Feel that's the play tbf
median wraith
AKA stationary but all shadows in realtime
So no shadows bake
Only colors and occlusion
mild gust
Like everything static you could save on bounces
pearl elk
or you just prebake acouple of bounces and accept the fact your dynamic lighting will never be correct on nights with no moon 😛
median wraith
Lol
mild gust
Just fake an Aurora then
pearl elk
tbh I want to use Decima
proud jay
I thought you didn't believe in love anymore
proud jay
Is that vampire game made with ue4
the vampire masquerade?
median wraith
Baked light let you see the lights from shops at 1km
median wraith
the vampire masquerade?
Yeah
Is really cool
If you use lumen and realtime you will see anything by 100m at all
This is really cool to see all those informative lights from far distances at night
Makes it really unique
This one because there are many vampires masquerade
mild gust
Is this the new one?
median wraith
No that I know
mild gust
Oh it's the f2p
median wraith
This is a battleroyale
mild gust
This is out in 6 days, https://store.steampowered.com/app/532790/Vampire_The_Masquerade__Bloodlines_2/
median wraith
Yep
mild gust
Needs coop
pearl elk
This is a battleroyale
spanish link 
median wraith
Sorry Xddd
The one you posted
Seems to be UE5? And realtime light?
Fog x100 so you don't see far from 30 meters
mild gust
Bloodline?
It's UE5 yeah
The game leverages advanced features of the engine, including Lumen for dynamic lighting and Nanite for high-fidelity geometry rendering.
pearl elk
Fog x100 so you don't see far from 30 meters
hey why not, hide the cull distance like the good ole days
proud jay
it's a vibe
mild gust
I wanna be like silent hill
median wraith
Lol
mild gust
That game looks wild
mild gust
Dakota Fannings feet got me in the feels.
proud jay
idk why I stopped playing
median wraith
Even Battlefield now have portable ladders
proud jay
probably life
mild gust
Even Battlefield now have portable ladders
That are broken af
median wraith
Oh yeah I have seen people rocket launch with them lol
If I was doing that game and noticed it, I would have stopped all the dev process and cancel the game because of the ladder issue
proud jay
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/rrTevdMLSugRX3SH2z5k6E.jpg
hahah I love the baby in the breathing suit
median wraith
The come to the forums and blame the physics
proud jay
it's one of those games where it's been too long since I played to remember the story properly, but also too deep into it to restart
median wraith
spanish link <:crying:1316599219188011038>
I don't like that steam here on mobile list me only the total reviews in Spanish*
mild gust
it's one of those games where it's been too long since I played to remember the ...
Do a speed run
median wraith
it's one of those games where it's been too long since I played to remember the ...
Same here
mild gust
Like when we speed run Ready or Not we shoot civilians as they slow down run time.
median wraith
I do remember a forest in between mountains
pearl elk
I don't like that steam here on mobile list me only the total reviews in Spanish...
bit cheap, they could translate the english ones
proud jay
the opening of death stranding was so good imo
like where you have to go to the incinerator
I was sold
pearl elk
Even Battlefield now have portable ladders
but it doesnt have Dakota Fannings feet 😭
not to mention Margaret Qualley, shes my favourite character
mild gust
Woops it's Elle Fanning
mild gust
Funny when you look up dakota fanning feet it shows elle on gifs lol
median wraith
I have a question now
pearl elk
yes you should have high poly feet in your game
mild gust
median wraith
What's better a long distance map view so you go to explore or a short distance map view so you have to explore further?
I think the second one but unsure
mild gust
Short
I feel a good balance is having a smaller one then should the player choose they can open a map menu or some sort to access a larger one should they want.
If you mean a minimap
pearl elk
I feel like being able to see major landmarks can catch peoples eye and make them travel
proud jay
What's better a long distance map view so you go to explore or a short distance ...
depends on the game
median wraith
I won't give map menus to anyone, explore or die
proud jay
but like in BotW you climb on a tower, spot some cool shit and run there
mild gust
Usually are pretty good at landmarks
pearl elk
if youre going for spooky smaller is definitely more suspenseful
median wraith
but like in BotW you climb on a tower, spot some cool shit and run there
Yeah I have the Ubisoft clone of that one, is really cool
median wraith
But I feel like it makes a spoiler of the whole place
pearl elk
aka fog of performance
proud jay
Yeah I have the Ubisoft clone of that one, is really cool
immortals fenyx' rising?
median wraith
Why on peaceful games is still called fog of war?
pearl elk
we render smoke so your gpu doesnt
median wraith
Sauna fog
median wraith
immortals fenyx' rising?
Yep
proud jay
I liked that game a lot too
mild gust
Why on peaceful games is still called fog of war?
Because we are creatures of habit
cursive crypt
we render smoke so your gpu doesnt
Fog of peace?
proud jay
finished it
mild gust
Fog of unseeing
proud jay
it's similar to BotW, but still very different imo
pearl elk
Fog of peace?
dont give Trump more ideas
mild gust
Aww why not
median wraith
finished it
I went to top zones but missed the snow one
mild gust
He's cooking right now
proud jay
I went to top zones but missed the snow one
but that's where the game ends
cursive crypt
dont give Trump more ideas
He renamed it from defense to war, doubt it gets better.
mild gust
Next Trump will take over Greenland
proud jay
what about the current trump
pearl elk
He renamed it from defense to war, doubt it gets better.
Its no longer called the Pacific, its now known as the American Ocean
proud jay
Its no longer called the Pacific, its now known as the American Ocean
they've been calling it the specific ocean for years anyway
cursive crypt
Its no longer called the Pacific, its now known as the American Ocean
America includes Mexico, Canada and so on say. Should be the USA ocean.
mild gust
Alaska is Russian
cursive crypt
And mark the rest of the continent as "Barbarians"
mild gust
It's connected by land bridge after all
mild gust
Australia is Australibad I thought
pearl elk
nah we all good cuz we got a king
pearl elk
only thing Trump wants more than the USA is to be a monarch
mild gust
Or Aussystan
cursive crypt
only thing Trump wants more than the USA is to be a monarch
Emperor Grumpius
mild gust
Tbf Canada's not much better 😂
We are drug traffickers now
We don't punish criminals here so
They can do what ever they want
pearl elk
silk road has lived through many a dynasty
mild gust
Critisizing criminals too is seen as bad.
We are supposed to be kind to them.
Help them rob us basically.
pearl elk
especially US criminal, they are the best, the yugest criminals
mild gust
The bestest
Mark Carney and Trump made a plan recently
It let more US patrols into Canada
median wraith
USA says isn't happy with Spain
pearl elk
its because Spain and Mexico are catching up on US motor vehicle production numbers
median wraith
No it's because the OTAM thing or whatever is called
mild gust
Well you guys have similar issues to us no?
People can basically invade your home
and you can't do shit
median wraith
Yeah they give green card to them all
mild gust
Yeah....
median wraith
Except to you if want todo something
median wraith
Yeah
median wraith
We got many of the people from the government about go to prison now
Even the brother of the president is about have another trial
mild gust
People born here are treated differently
Was about a year ago now a bunch of boats came and people smuggled illegal firearms into the country.
pearl elk
Even the brother of the president is about have another trial
least they actually put them on trial in Spain
median wraith
least they actually put them on trial in Spain
Well, not all
The shit was so big they wasn't able to hold it anymore
median wraith
One of the dudes at the top had a wife and 4 prostitutes
mild gust
Shooting the gun in the air is just crazy
median wraith
The other was on drug parties
mild gust
Well then
median wraith
The wife drop he as you can imagine
mild gust
Like that Justin Trudeau guy
Broke up with his wife or w.e
Now he's with Katy Perry or some shit
median wraith
But the phone msg were kind of wild
The dude was talking with his wife that needs gift for the prostitutes
Lol
So she can go to get them
mild gust
Well typically prostitutes you would find on the corner no?
Escorts you usually find in like a backpage or something
or craigslist
median wraith
Aside fact Spain was pro Palestina all the time
proud jay
most countries were not even hitting the 2%
median wraith
So was playing against USA thing
proud jay
I don't think spain was alone in that either tbh
maybe he's mad at spain cause he thinks they're the S in BRICS
A high-ranking EU official told Euractiv that their main fear is that Trump does not understand Europe and how it works. They are concerned that this lack of understanding will require them to explain everything to him to prevent him from making decisions without realising the consequences.
average trump interaction
median wraith
Oh yeah he said we are Brics
pearl elk
this is what happens when you give a blundering buffoon the wheel
but we all know why the US wants more NATO spending, its because the US is the worlds largest weapons exporter
even just ammunition alone the US doubles any other country
median wraith
I think USA found Spain actually on their way to Asia
He said had relationship with Germany since the medieval era
pearl elk
oh yeah didnt you know, the US was initially started in Gaza during the crusades
proud jay
but we all know why the US wants more NATO spending, its because the US is the w...
funny thing is EU countries are buying a lot from eachother now and orange is mad
mild gust
Guy knows his history
proud jay
He said had relationship with Germany since the medieval era
I knew he was old, but not that old
mild gust
Don't ya know he is ancient
median wraith
All the leaders are in their 80-90
Is absurd at this point
You need knowledge but sir
pearl elk
yes grandpa, we know grandpa, you used to rule the country... now go to bed
mild gust
One final nap