what
#lounge
short jay
errant raven
I wouldn't even consider myself a developer
errant raven
All I've written were automation scripts, and a half assed discord bot with spaghetti code
errant raven
Deaf right
errant raven
His orange face is disappearing
mild gust
Literal bounties on peoples head
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His orange face is disappearing
That's because he's dying.
errant raven
He's too young and rich to be dying so soon
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79 isn't young
errant raven
Yes it is
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He literally shits himself
errant raven
When you're rich
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He's on his final legs
errant raven
He's in better health than my 57-64 year old aunt uncles and grandmas
And mine still work jobs
mild gust
That's what they show you
short jay
well
You know how to develop
Like good
Because I’m making a game like ready or not
mild gust
With censorship?
errant raven
I know how to develop the console to go from blank to filled with error logs
short jay
Well I’ll see
errant raven
Does that count
errant raven
Okay great so I am good enough
mild gust
I ask because I stopped playing Ready or Not since they went full snowflake
errant raven
All I make is unsuccessful code, so when can I start
short jay
Dude
errant raven
Is me
errant raven
Your mom, what's her #
Nah I'm just kidding
That's hurtful tho. I do my best. We all cant be Ada lovelace yknow
short jay
Dude can you actually code
errant raven
Yesnt
short jay
Ya I’m not picking you
mild gust
You did this!
errant raven
But I met their specs
mild gust
I can make shaders with boobs
short jay
I can make shaders with boobs
yo
errant raven
I can debug errors without stack overflow and gpt 😎
mild gust
Like the wacky wavy inflatable arm flailing tube man.
short jay
missing out on 500$
mild gust
I can debug errors without stack overflow and gpt 😎
That's fun
errant raven
That's fun
Well it is TypeError's 
mild gust
Ready or Not has some good uses of marketplace assets.
short jay
.
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Spotted multiple Dekogon
short jay
errant raven
I've been watching the same 24 minute long attack on titan episode for the past hour
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Why
errant raven
Not paying attention, rewinding to watch, just to not pay attention, having to rewind again
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Lol
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I want to say I'm surprised but.
cursive crypt
Corpos think about us
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After we are fired 😂
errant raven
I can finally move on to the next episode
mild gust
No more boob distraction?
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El Salvador’s ruling party just greenlit indefinite presidential re-election and stretched the presidential term to six years, all in one late-night legislative blitz.
errant raven
Dictatorship?
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May as well be
summer cedar
Isn't he supposed to be the most popular dictator, or something?
mild gust
Trumps new best friend
dusky shuttle
https://tenor.com/view/osrs-runescape-dds-model-conmie-gif-22732978
Is this what this streamers do these days
here's a secret, we are all under dictatorship
median wraith
Programing it's free
summer cedar
Programing it's free
Everything is free, provided you have sufficient cages, whips, and electric batons.
mild gust
I mean your not wrong there's more slaves today than during the height of the trans-atlantic slave trade.
summer cedar
I think the definition of the word has changed though.
The 'slaves' of today are measured by the bad wages they get paid.
summer cedar
I might be totally wrong though.
mild gust
Let's not kid ourselves.
summer cedar
It's not like I studied the subject.
mild gust
In India alone there's around 2 million people doing unpaid work.
summer cedar
In India alone there's around 2 million people doing unpaid work.
this is sus.
Indians don't work for anything but money.
which part of india?
mild gust
Key Areas of Modern Slavery in India:
- Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, and Madhya Pradesh (Bonded Labor & Agriculture)
Brick Kilns: In Madhya Pradesh, Bihar, and Uttar Pradesh, many children and adults are forced to work in dangerous and degrading conditions in brick kilns.
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Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh (Textiles & Garment Industry)
Andhra Pradesh (Sex Trafficking & Domestic Servitude)
West Bengal, Odisha, and Assam (Tea Plantations & Forced Labor)
There's a few others but there's also overlap
Worst offenders, Andhra Pradesh
In terms of the crimes commited I suppose
Don't get me wrong there's plenty of other places with other forms of slavery still
Like the USA
The U.S. has a significant problem with modern slavery, with human trafficking and forced labor occurring in various industries, including agriculture, construction, domestic servitude, hospitality, and sex trade. Migrant workers, particularly from Mexico, Central America, and Southeast Asia, are particularly vulnerable to exploitation.
summer cedar
I am still skeptical about the 'free' part of it.
I assume many of them are indebted.
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I mean
median wraith
I mean your not wrong there's more slaves today than during the height of the tr...
That reminds me of this post
dusky shuttle
Is this what this streamers do these days
I hate autocorrect, it's supposed to be thot streamers not this streamers
mild gust
Yes, family debt bondage is a significant form of modern slavery in India, particularly in rural areas. This form of bonded labor occurs when a family borrows money (often from a moneylender or landowner) and, due to high-interest rates and the inability to repay the debt, becomes trapped in a cycle of forced labor. The debt is often passed down through generations, and members of the family are forced to work off the debt, sometimes for the rest of their lives.
summer cedar
They are ridiculously small debts too, from our point of view.
median wraith
El Salvador’s ruling party just greenlit indefinite presidential re-election and...
Welp that reminds me of other countries tbh
median wraith
Can't deny they are attractive
Wait that's attractive?
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I mean to some
median wraith
Just in case is over 1.90 I hope
mild gust
This article glazes them pretty hard, https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/05/closer-look-at-coolest-dictator-in-the-world/
median wraith
Wasn't this dude improving overall the country?
mild gust
Yeah
The second reason why people love Bukele is that he has reduced both gang violence and murder rates in El Salvador. Gangs used to control large swaths of the country and were very brutal; many people lost their lives, their children, and their properties. Now people have safety, security and freedom from the gang violence that they have not had in over two decades.
errant raven
Is AoTs S2 OP/ED in german and not Japanese??
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summer cedar
Larger cities probably never have to even experience this
Depends. A family member who immigrates to a city generally sends their income back to the village.
Usually, if they are successful, the debt is wiped out pretty quickly. Those are usually small amounts, like $100.
But, that's not going to work for much longer, since city life is increasingly expensive.
mild gust
I used to work with a guy from India who was part owner of a restaurant
Cleared the safe out one day and flew back to india
"Allegedly"
He was never caught besides on camera
summer cedar
They do that.
Smart scammers know how to do it properly.
It's the stupid ones that resort to tele-calls and shit.
mild gust
He was very charismatic
summer cedar
The ones who don't get caught, do it right.
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Like people trusted him a lot
summer cedar
2 million indebted is a very small number though.
So, the government wasn't kidding when it said poverty has been reduced big time in the last 10 years.
I remember when it was more like 250 million or more.
Like an entire half. Not indebted per say, but like really, really in a bad way.
I mean, the welfare payments probably help big time.
Not to mention the free food deliveries.
But, still.... interesting to know.
The sad part is WHY those debts were incurred in the first place.
mild gust
Dark web deliveries?
summer cedar
Like in so many cases, it's because they had to marry daughters off, OR to feed their alcohol addiction.
summer cedar
Dark web deliveries?
Sure, also ration shops.
mild gust
I love addiction
summer cedar
Farmers debts are different though, because the government covers them these days as much as they can.
That happened because of farmer suicides several years ago.
Plus, farmers' debts are much bigger, like $10,000.
mild gust
Should have made more farms
summer cedar
Should have made more farms
That would've made it worse.
median wraith
You guys usually get msgs from close people for bday?
mild gust
Nope
median wraith
How's that?
mild gust
Eh
I'm bad at remembering birthdays myself, so I can't get upset
Indifferent about it tbh
Immediate family only really
Odd friend
summer cedar
You guys usually get msgs from close people for bday?
No. I keep 'close' people at a very long distance, since they are mostly useless.
I do get birthday messages from every company and consultant I've ever done business with.
All the stocks and MF companies send me messages, with offers and coupons and stuff.
Makes shopping fun.
mild gust
I love when places give me birthday discounts
errant raven
My cats an outdoor cat now
I cannot put up with bad behavior. Spraying with water doesnt work.
median wraith
Makes shopping fun.
That's true
summer cedar
Stop telling people every day is your birthday and they'll send you messages on your actual birthday. 😛
mild gust
But but
summer cedar
No no
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errant raven
No one told me happy birthday 2 months ago 😩
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Happy 2 month late birthday no one knew about
errant raven
You must be a person of consequence, first.
I single handedly created nothing. I'm as elite as they come
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Like Monkey D Luffy
errant raven
Happy 2 month late birthday no one knew about
I'm joking, people did. I just have shit memory
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4 days till new south park
errant raven
I actually complained about people giving me gifts for my birthday
mild gust
I always do
I do that for Christmas to
I don't want anything
I just enjoy spending time w/ people
errant raven
If I truly need something, I'll mention it. But that rarely, almost never happens
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Not even a pc
errant raven
I will never ask tech illiterate people for any piece of tech
Especially when they say apple is better
mild gust
That's why you give them a list
Depends what your doing
It is better in some applications
errant raven
It's never better
You have complete control over what goes into your pc, apple doesnt give you that liberty
mild gust
You've clearly never used their software lol
summer cedar
I've got two or three decent birthday presents.
mild gust
Way better than anything Adobe makes
summer cedar
My cousin from the US got me Enter the Matrix (in 2000 something).
errant raven
Is their software really worth paying 3x the price for an msi laptop with the same specs
summer cedar
The other cousin got me a walkman before that.
errant raven
Same core and thread counts same core clock specs
errant raven
Same ram speed, capacity, cast latency
mild gust
If you prioritize efficiency, portability, and creative workflows (video editing, music production, etc.), Apple's M1 Ultra and M2 chips offer an excellent balance of performance and efficiency.
Also more power efficient vs the best amd cpu
No point comparing Intel
Because it's booty now
summer cedar
I think Apple just got an early start, compared to MS.
errant raven
Intel fuckin sucks
mild gust
If you are working with high-performance computing, gaming, or multi-core applications, the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D will likely outperform Apple Silicon, especially in desktop environments.
summer cedar
By the time Bill Gates strongarmed corpos into installing Windows, Apple had already endeared itself to the entertainment sector.
errant raven
Amds latest integrated graphics are as good as a 1660
summer cedar
radeon S is very good, actually.
errant raven
Their new gen, which isnt out yet, is "supposed" to be as good as a rtx 4060.
summer cedar
1440p gaming at 60FPS or more, is very good.
errant raven
Nvidia is the one that usually relies on upscaling
mild gust
I mean amd has made strides in it to the point they advertise it.
errant raven
It works for all gpus, isnt locked to their latest line
Gives more life to older systems
median wraith
Stop telling people every day is your birthday and they'll send you messages on ...
Actually I never did lol
mild gust
Gives more life to older systems
Lies
median wraith
Is a meme the community did to me for whatever reason
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Make it give my 1050 ti more life
errant raven
Give it more life by giving it to me
median wraith
No one told me happy birthday 2 months ago 😩
Did you pointed it?
errant raven
I will gracefully slap it into a doll office tower with a i5 6500 and start playing cs2 everyday
median wraith
No one told me happy birthday 2 months ago 😩
Happy post bday, 2 months since you were born, at this point you are on a bike already
mild gust
The difference between non-player characters (NPCs) in video games and animals in real life is a matter of degree rather than kind.
errant raven
I actually didnt know how to ride a bike until 10 years old
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NPCs and animals are both fundamentally agents that emerge from a complicated collection of simple physical operations, and the main distinction between NPCs and animals is one of cognitive and affective complexity.
Thus, if we care a lot about animals, we may care a tiny bit about game NPCs, at least the more elaborate versions.
NPC's having ethical worth. 🤔
stable gull
I actually didnt know how to ride a bike until 10 years old
happy birthday
errant raven
You know what would make a great birthday present
A memory eraser
Enjoy anything I want for the first time, as many times as i want
mild gust
Drink some booze
errant raven
Then I'd need a liver
stable gull
A memory eraser
you already had it, that's why you don't remember anyone wishing you birthday
errant raven
you already had it, that's why you don't remember anyone wishing you birthday
Listen to Noelle
stable gull
ohh
mild gust
Bomb in your living room time guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anyDHd7SYTQ
errant raven
That guy can link anything to nuclear power plants
errant raven
Oh fuck off you know what I mean
mild gust
Let's Put a Nuke In Your Living Room To Test Physics
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Oh fuck off you know what I mean
What about that one american that powered their house w/ a nuclear bomb
errant raven
Idk
mild gust
Fake news iirc
errant raven
I pissed 15 times in the last 5 hours
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Wtf for
errant raven
Never drinking mountain dew again
mild gust
Your supposed to do chemistry with it
errant raven
I thought it was a drink
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Same
errant raven
We actually use piss as a nuclear coolant
errant raven
Mountain dew sucks
errant raven
Barely carbonated, and high amounts of sugar. Sugar actually causes decarbonation too
Couldn't make it halfway through a 2 liter without it going flat
mild gust
Drink faster
summer cedar
Speaking of nukes.
India is testing the world's first practical SMR.
If it works out here, other countries will be building them too.
SMR - Small Modular Reactors
So... wish us all luck! 😄
mild gust
Wasn't China also doing that
summer cedar
Is a meme the community did to me for whatever reason
So, what you are saying is, it's @proud jay 's fault?
mild gust
Not really especially when comparing performance and safe code.
errant raven
Rust is a shit name for a language
mild gust
Yer face!
mild gust
I still remember following the Linux Rust drama
With Linus Torvald even getting involved
errant raven
Never heard of it
mild gust
Do you follow primeagen?
errant raven
Dont care about rust, starting to care about linux
errant raven
Do you follow primeagen?
Yesnt
mild gust
Well Rust improving Linux is good
errant raven
Only on YouTube
errant raven
Never heard of it
errant raven
That game is against steams ToS tbf
mild gust
How
errant raven
Steam has nekopara, just a very censored version
mild gust
Idk what that means
mild gust
Yeah lots of porn games aren't banned lol
This isn't banned not much different
Just Visa and Mastercard grasping at straws
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lol
errant raven
Only if its changing a black character to a historically accurate skin colour
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or those mods that make your character a sex worker
errant raven
Why do I need to learn lua to fix a mod
mild gust
Do you really learn lua
errant raven
Grok allows multiple file uploads. I'll just get grok to fix it
mild gust
or does lua just happen.
errant raven
I finished season 2 already
3am
Fuck lua tho fr
You just go to a new line to end a expression? No :, ;, { or anything, just new line + end?
mild gust
Just the function definition followed by end
errant raven
should be able to pick it up relatively quick tho, so it shouldn't be much of a problem
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function say_hello()
print("Hello, World!")
end
if end can be written on the same line thatd be great
errant raven
That just looks goofy
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Lol
errant raven
What's that one language that's literally just english
mild gust
or you can write your code like Pseudocode
If the user is 18 or older:
Allow access
Else:
Deny access
AIDE?
or Dcoder
Xcode on iphone to
errant raven
Theres luadroid, pydroid3
Cxxdroid
Replit
They come with built in compilers to
Just press the run button
Dont diss android
Android is a linux platform
errant raven
You gonna disrespect linux Bro? In front of me bro? Not cool bro, linux is really cool bro.
errant raven
Holy shit theres a mobile game engine on the play store
Should I try making a game in it
mild gust
Visual scripting
Javascript
Whether you're creating 2D platformers, puzzle games, or even simple RPGs, GDevelop provides an accessible and powerful toolset.
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errant raven
Doesnt matter what I do, I just cant escape syntax errors
errant raven
All I did was try to login via google
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SketchBook is notable
errant raven
Codebased events are not available on mobile
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Unbelievable
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Ah scummy
errant raven
My Hope's were high, now they're low
mild gust
Maybe they made the assets
Yo they also banned, Harem of Nurses
Sadest week of my life
errant raven
No, I recognize one, it's the asset pack I was using for that mobile game
It's also been used in several youtube tutorials across pygame, godot, gamemaker and unity
errant raven
And theres also already an app on google play store made by some russian group that uses it
Unreal doesnt do 2D games very well
errant raven
Probably just to learn unreal
mild gust
Octopath traveler is a good example
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Better get a keyboard and mouse
errant raven
And it supports 3D
Holy fucking shit
I feel so damn stupid trying to brute force SFML, sdl2, pandas, and kivy on mobile via termux now
errant raven
What do I do
Do I see if it has shader support on mobile
Or if it can compile into apks
My options are semi-endless now
Do I destroy my phone by trying to simulate our solar system
mild gust
Do I destroy my phone by trying to simulate our solar system
Make GTA 7
errant raven
Native GDscript too
Yeah that doesnt matter, pydroid3 does that shit
I'm used to it by now
Am I really prepared for mobile GUI work tho
Does it look like I know how to make a touch screen button
Nah its actually pretty easy, theres a toggle or something in project settings for that. Just gotta make a hitbox for it, apply the texture, and it just works
proud jay
So, what you are saying is, it's <@140633160848375809> 's fault?
Happy birthday @median wraith
summer cedar
Why don't you want Hevedy to get real birthday messages?
proud jay
if it's his birthday every day one of them will be real
I didn't start this
see this was 7 years ago
I wasn't even in the serves then
summer cedar
How do we know that guy who wished Hevedy happy birthday, wasn't you in disguise?
Or that you had a split personality disorder at the time?
proud jay
we'll never know
summer cedar
🙁
Sadly, Hevedy is doomed.
I hate overcast weather.
It doesn't rain and it's gloomy and depressing.
mild gust
Why
summer cedar
If it ain't raining, the sun should be shining.
mild gust
It's the best weather for photogrammetry
Reminds me I was going to go for a walk
Yo bring back when Phyronnaz used to chat here.
summer cedar
No clue who that is.
summer cedar
Please tell me Hevedies who check in can check out later on.
errant raven
Android port of godot 4 is feature complete
mild gust
No way
errant raven
I can cook and burn food again
Dude yes
Itscfucking amazing
First time being in a blank 3D environment without any lag
errant raven
Hell of a thing to have on your resume
proud jay
I would not hire you on grounds of insanity
errant raven
Just keep it very simple, dont over scope. Make a simple platformer.
How bad can it be
proud jay
I don't care about the game
errant raven
Found an asset pack that comes with audio files too
proud jay
even deving on a phone for 5 min sounds like pain
errant raven
How do you think my left hands pinky finger feels?
I have a permanent impression on it where the phones been resting on it
proud jay
maybe if you get a job you can afford a pc
weren't you going for some restaurant cooking job thing
what happened to that
errant raven
I went to a hiring agency, waiting back on that
Meanwhile my brother puts in an application at a restuarant, gets a call about an interview the next day after submitting the application (which was set up for that same day they called)
I am kinda scared thinking about setting up a state machine with touch controls when the buttons are so tiny..
proud jay
why would you develop a game on a phone though
^
mild gust
Masochism is real
mild gust
Yo get fucked credit card companies, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OnVKUigt40
proud jay
are they getting destroyed though
mild gust
I mean they have been getting thousands of calls
It will likely eventually get rolled back if they keep getting annoyed
proud jay
I predict nothing at all will happen
summer cedar
Highly doubtful. They MIGHT create separate departments for certain countries, maybe, with higher charges. Most probably, not. Because what they are banning is actually banned by law in several countries. They are just doing business.
It's great if they do roll it back, but... nah.
proud jay
VISA alone processes over 600 million payments per day
I don't think they gonna care about a few gamers being mad for 2 weeks
proud jay
who is gonna make them?
mild gust
🤷
Same question as who is going to ban the games
Some idiot
All movements need a sacrificial lamb
Again funny how they don't ban music, movies, etc with these concepts in them
But they love banning games
Fucking joke
Almost as if these people just hate games or something 🤔
pearl elk
May contain themes
mild gust
But songs with the literal name Rape are allowed
Music seems to have almost no censorship
Wet Ass Pussy
Music is a cesspool but gamings a problem
pearl elk
I just keep thinkin bout the success of GoT but no one complained about the topics in that
mild gust
Yup
proud jay
Guess what payment options you have on OF 😅
they actually announced last year they would drop nsfw content under pressure of payment processors
but they backed of
obviously
pearl elk
I like how Epic have just avoided the whole issue
mild gust
They don't have smut on the market.
proud jay
and no one uses their platform
pearl elk
Where Gabe was like pr0n novels rejoice
pearl elk
Mmmph default cube
proud jay
people love their lewd shit
I remember this nsfw mmo where you could fuck animals and shit and was just a sex island, I think it was called wildlife and they were making money hand over fist on their patreon without even releasing the game
mild gust
Breeders of the nephelym?
proud jay
idk what that is
mild gust
Good
proud jay
maybe it was this? https://youtu.be/1ErCZTqlV_M
mild gust
Why you lion
proud jay
there was a lot more penis in the promotion material I saw back in the day
pearl elk
I like big bears and I cannot lie
pearl elk
proud jay
maybe it is that game after all
mild gust
soft night
once human have beastmaster class what have bear too one of the first animals
mild gust
maybe it was this? https://youtu.be/1ErCZTqlV_M
I got a friend that would love this lol
mild gust
Jiggle ftw
proud jay
my man animating some sort of oral scene in the background at 1:11
proud jay
Ambulance would love this game
mild gust
They are unreal
proud jay
Unreal Engine spotted
yeah I think that's why I found it back in the day
something unreal related
mild gust
I fuck with it
Time to make more metahumans
Gotta love when cops don't even know laws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9LXuud35AM
Goes for his license cop pulls a gun
soft night
summer cedar
We have a 'very high UV' warning over here.
What UV? The sun's hidden behind clouds.
summer cedar
Yay, your p0rn is safe for now.
mild gust
This week
summer cedar
🥱 They'll just convince the court or something that there's no private data being recorded, and then everyone will accept it.
This is the usual cycle.
mild gust
Next week they ban 2.92% of the games left.
Very useful for seeing how your being tracked.
summer cedar
Tim would be proud.
median wraith
Happy birthday <@94317435246620672>
THANK YOU SO MUCH, you found waldo after so many
soft night
summer cedar
THANK YOU SO MUCH, you found waldo after so many
YOU ARE WELCOME!
median wraith
So, what you are saying is, it's <@140633160848375809> 's fault?
Actually I think was the little Australian who started
summer cedar
Yes, those kangaroos like @pearl elk are eebil.
mild gust
Need more Koalas
mild gust
Lies
summer cedar
Trues
mild gust
I saw them in a zoo once
summer cedar
From afar, I am sure, like a polite Canadian.
summer cedar
Once you try to get close, they will maul you to pieces.
Shred you to tissue paper.
mild gust
They wouldn't dare.
summer cedar
Rend your flesh from your bones, even.
mild gust
I walked up to a kangaroo that was way cooler.
summer cedar
Kangaroos are less evil, but eebil all the same.
I am sure they were nice to you because of the maple syrup.
mild gust
Yeah and the zoo people kept them happy and fed
mild gust
Oh I forgot to share this, https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/gamers-bypass-uk-age-verification-with-death-stranding-no-real-face-or-vpn-required
The faces are so real
summer cedar
It's going to get banned.
summer cedar
If you are using something to bypass something, keep it low-key.
Why the F@#$ do they have to talk about it?
summer cedar
Yeah, but why? It's like they don't remember that silence is golden.
mild gust
Same reason runescape players leaked a dupe glitch
summer cedar
No. No one will go jail or get banned in life, in Runescape.
mild gust
It also spread on reddit
summer cedar
In this case, a whole game could be blacklisted.
People should just learn to use pigeons or something to talk.
Then, eat the message.
summer cedar
Yes, they are all stupid.
mild gust
Word spreads fast
summer cedar
That's my point.
mild gust
Hence why I mentioned runescape
stable gull
It will likely eventually get rolled back if they keep getting annoyed
even if it doesn't, this means visa and MasterCard are getting weak. Because they are backing out of markets and giving chance to alternatives.
mild gust
As it was relevant
stable gull
ah, the chat has moved on
mild gust
even if it doesn't, this means visa and MasterCard are getting weak. Because the...
They can't ignore the phone calls forever.
When you get thousands of calls a day.
The Karens probably did the same.
summer cedar
I have already suggested PervPay.
If you two haven't developed it already, then it's all your fault.
mild gust
Although I agree with some of the game bans, it's the start of the wrong direction for freedom of expression.
stable gull
calls aren't a big deal, but something stealing market share is
mild gust
They were estimated to lose 4.5 billion from the change.
stable gull
I assume these 2 might go down under 10 years unless govt intervenes and makes laws against PervPay
mild gust
They were estimated to lose 4.5 billion from the change.
To be fair all speculation
mild gust
Also they only needed 30k signatures? https://gaminghq.eu/2025/07/24/steam-censorship-petition-30000-signatures-visa-mastercard/
stable gull
You haven't developed PervPay yet though.
Hey, someone probably already has, they just don't have the funds to advertise it
summer cedar
Hey, someone probably already has, they just don't have the funds to advertise i...
OR, they are the only smart ones on Reddit to refrain from posting about it.
stable gull
Does signing these even do anything
mild gust
It depends
summer cedar
Not really.
mild gust
Sometimes it makes changes
mild gust
Obviously it did in this case
stable gull
If the companies count on your support, yes.
yeah I can't imagine anyone in any form of authority listening to signatures unless it gives them benefits
mild gust
I mean it feeds the christian narrative this change
summer cedar
In THIS case, probably not.
I said this before, but they COULD make separate departments for US or something, but in many parts of the world, selling p0rn content is banned.
It's not so much the payment processors as it is the governments acting through them, or them complying with local laws.
mild gust
But steam has this wonderful thing where they can disable sales in certain regions.
stable gull
tbh most NSFW stuff gets a bit too disgusting too quickly, if they tone it down i am sure things will be fine. Most borderline nsfw stuff does perform okay
mild gust
Not just yeet the entire thing
summer cedar
Doesn't matter.
mild gust
I have a game that's exclusive in Japan in my library.
summer cedar
It's about perception in political arenas.
mild gust
But I can play it because winning
summer cedar
This is more a religious, generational thing.
You can't expect aged politicians to understand nuance and system controls.
They just paint with a broad brush.
So, if you are even remotely associated with the name of an illegal title, BANNED.
stable gull
It's not so much the payment processors as it is the governments acting through ...
I did read a post somewhere that visa was blamed for weird stuff on one site by a judge once, hence they are afraid
summer cedar
Yeah.
They are held responsible.
We have a laundry list of stuff they can't be associated with, in India.
Heck, our ISPs even banned Steam pages from opening entirely once.
mild gust
I did read a post somewhere that visa was blamed for weird stuff on one site by ...
Not surprised
summer cedar
People had to use Google DNS to bypass that.
stable gull
I am kinda surprised VPN is still legal
mild gust
Why
stable gull
it basically allows you to bypass laws
mild gust
They can intercept it if they want to.
summer cedar
Either they design separate systems for each country, and then those citizens pay HIGHER charges to compensate for that, or they yank products.
Which is easier? 😄
mild gust
Not even proxies are 100% safe
summer cedar
it basically allows you to bypass laws
It's legal because not many people use them.
mild gust
It's legal because not many people use them.
That to
summer cedar
This whole porn game thing became a problem because teens have been caught playing them on the phone.
Which means parents start talking about it.
Which means the local priest talks about it.
You get the drift.
mild gust
Good
summer cedar
😄
stable gull
Either they design separate systems for each country, and then those citizens pa...
it's weird how they have been saying "globalisation" is a trend but once you start doing anything global there's too many exceptions
summer cedar
it's weird how they have been saying "globalisation" is a trend but once you sta...
Cojject.
summer cedar
Not to mention the myriad regulations you need to navigate to globalise.
summer cedar
Keep them away from pdfs.
not jpgs though?
stable gull
Which means parents start talking about it.
hmm, so have to make the parents be interested in it too
soft night
mild gust
No those are fine as long as they are regulated.
They have to be wholesome christian jpgs
summer cedar
hmm, so have to make the parents be interested in it too
Yes. It's part of design skills.
summer cedar
IF you can make your product mainstream, everyone will be forced to accept it. If it's niche, then some bloke can come along and ruin your life.
soft night
windus currency gt hit
mild gust
mild gust
Everything is going to get hit probably
soft night
windus seems tariff news frm Uncle donald
mild gust
Tariff hell has begun
summer cedar
Eh. We don't care.
mild gust
Round 2
summer cedar
Honestly, the only thing that's going to come out of this is a more democratic market.
People will actually realise there are 193 (other than US and your own) countries to trade with.
stable gull
IF you can make your product mainstream, everyone will be forced to accept it. I...
that's why gta worked well
summer cedar
And MAYBE we can bring the high prices down.
proud jay
I'm just enjoying watching S&P 500 drop
doesn't seem too bad
summer cedar
It might not drop much, though.
mild gust
After all
summer cedar
Investors have been adjusting.
proud jay
I don't think it will drop heavily
summer cedar
We know the mad monkey is at the helm.
mild gust
If countries start selling bonds?
summer cedar
Time to change ships.
proud jay
the biggest players in the s&p are all software for the most part
proud jay
If countries start selling bonds?
don't most countries do that?
proud jay
well yes
summer cedar
Don't worry. Trump will get his arse clipped.
mild gust
We shall see
proud jay
or you mean selling bonds that they bought from other countries?
mild gust
Carney was floating selling all the US bonds
proud jay
Trump doesn't give a fuck
mild gust
Which if all countries follow suite
proud jay
Carney was floating selling all the US bonds
ah ok, that makes more sense, I thought you meant just a country selling its own bonds
mild gust
the USD crashes
summer cedar
No, but the Republicans will go against him if he doesn't follow MAGA.
They voted for the files to be released or something too, recently.
with the democrats.
mild gust
He will be dead so probably not
summer cedar
he doesn't have to care. his tariffs will end though.
soft night
well USA tariff to india have some as trade with russia
summer cedar
or simply not be enforced.
queen isle
Year 10 and hoping trump suffers consequences? I stop a long time ago
stable gull
I think trump is doing everything as a distraction
summer cedar
The Indian tariff has nothing to do with Russia.
Indians told him to f#$k off, so he is pouting.
mild gust
It's to salt the wound
soft night
trump said it was
mild gust
BRICS
summer cedar
ask him to show you Russia on a map.
Then come talk to me.
His problem was because India said no to his trade deal.
summer cedar
and we said no to his F35.
mild gust
He probably thinks earths flat too 
proud jay
idk wtf Von Der Leyen has been smoking but I hope all member states block the EU trade deal
proud jay
did you see them making up some contract thing making the 400 million qatar jet property of trump after his presidency or some shit
summer cedar
Didn't that jet turn into a gold plated one recently?
proud jay
yes
summer cedar
I heard something like that on the news.
soft night
well eu trade deal sme cuntries think they could take gas and oil from russia so that trade deal eu and us might be good for them
mild gust
Classy
proud jay
and he also wants to build a gold plated ballroom in the white house
proud jay
well eu trade deal sme cuntries think they could take gas and oil from russia so...
what
mild gust
All the better for orgies
proud jay
and he also wants to build a gold plated ballroom in the white house
and for some reason it will cost 200 million dollars
stable gull
well eu trade deal sme cuntries think they could take gas and oil from russia so...
I think the result is, US is getting cut off from the world. my main issue is, most companies are US based, if that causes problems it will be chaotic for a while
soft night
dieter seems SVK and some other countries was thinking use pipeline from russia
proud jay
most giant companies are us based
not most companies in general
that's because the US is a great place to become a monopoly
celest musk
idk wtf Von Der Leyen has been smoking but I hope all member states block the EU...
it's funny to see her fuck up the whole EU rather than only germany 😄
summer cedar
I think the result is, US is getting cut off from the world. my main issue is, m...
It won't get to that point.
Realistically, once the public starts seeing their arse from their front, they'll make him a lame duck.
proud jay
dieter seems SVK and some other countries was thinking use pipeline from russia
what does it have to do with the deal
stable gull
that's because the US is a great place to become a monopoly
yes, good laws
soft night
eu deal had that side deal
stable gull
it's funny to see her fuck up the whole EU rather than only germany 😄
who is that and what did they do?
summer cedar
You just have to give the American public lots of time.
mild gust
750 billion dollar trade deal w/ US
proud jay
who is that and what did they do?
she's the president of the european commision
summer cedar
E ventua lllllyyyyyy......
celest musk
she also had the great idea to put "Stop Signs" in the internet in front of bad content
instead of getting rid of said content...
mild gust
Got an example?
stable gull
It won't get to that point.
Realistically, once the public starts seeing their a...
likely
proud jay
It won't get to that point.
Realistically, once the public starts seeing their a...
you overestimate the average american
and it's too late anyway
proud jay
relations have been ruined for the coming decades
summer cedar
There are more decades to come after that.
It's okay.
We can all chant Death to America for a while.
Make it heavy metal.
Sell some bling.
Then, get back to a new America.
stable gull
she also had the great idea to put "Stop Signs" in the internet in front of bad ...
was she behind the 18+ verification
mild gust
Okay Hasan Piker
summer cedar
the cycle goes on.
proud jay
There are more decades to come after that.
well sure
stable gull
We can all chant Death to America for a while.
honestly, with their prices, I don't know how americans are still pulling through
summer cedar
honestly, with their prices, I don't know how americans are still pulling throug...
It's iffy.
In some places over there, they haven't felt much of an impact.
In others, the impact is more.
proud jay
inflatino gonna go wild
proud jay
luckily Trump will fire Jerome Powell in time to save the world
summer cedar
Gotta admire the balls on that man.
stable gull
luckily Trump will fire Jerome Powell in time to save the world
okay now who is that
stable gull
I uninstall news app for some years and there's all new characters
summer cedar
And he's been giving Trump the middle finger like a boss.
stable gull
And he's been giving Trump the middle finger like a boss.
what's he doing?
summer cedar
He refused to reduce the interest rates.
summer cedar
He basically said Trump's economic policy is shit.
without saying as much.
Trump hates him.
He famously said the guy who appointed Powell is a stupid person.
And the guy who appointed Powell is - 🥁
celest musk
Got an example?
In 2009, while serving as Germany's Family Minister, Ursula von der Leyen proposed using octagonal stop signs as a symbol to block websites containing child abuse images from the internet.
instead of getting rid of the content ^^
stable gull
And the guy who appointed Powell is - 🥁
trump?
summer cedar
yes
stable gull
oh god
stable gull
> In 2009, while serving as Germany's Family Minister, Ursula von der Leyen prop...
okay what
stable gull
> In 2009, while serving as Germany's Family Minister, Ursula von der Leyen prop...
that can't be real
summer cedar
> In 2009, while serving as Germany's Family Minister, Ursula von der Leyen prop...
To be honest, hexagonal signs would've been better.
celest musk
and you know how it is, once they sneaked this system in place they'll use it for anything against their interest
stable gull
and you know how it is, once they sneaked this system in place they'll use it fo...
at this point they aren't even pretending to do anything nice
xD
stable gull
> In 2009, while serving as Germany's Family Minister, Ursula von der Leyen prop...
hopefully this was stopped at just the proposal
summer cedar
They didn't actually implement it.
celest musk
put a stop sign in front of it, so no one can se
summer cedar
It's okay to make stupid proposals though. That's how you know who's stupid.
summer cedar
Well they did propose to make him president. 😄
proud jay
> In 2009, while serving as Germany's Family Minister, Ursula von der Leyen prop...
wtf is a family minister lol
and was ist just the stop sign or did it block the website
cause we have this in belgium
where some sites are blocked by government
and then you get to a page with a stop sign and it says like this was blocked because of illegal activity or some shit
but then you can't reach it at all (without vpn)
like this kinda shit
soft night
summer cedar
wtf is a family minister lol
Dat.
It's basically a country's homeroom teacher.
jack of all trades type.
celest musk
and then you get to a page with a stop sign and it says like this was blocked be...
because someone likely took care of it rather than putting up signs...
proud jay
well yeah they instruct ISPs to block that shit
summer cedar
our ISP had blocked Steam over here, a long time ago.
That was a shocker one morning. 😄
proud jay
I like that the wiki page on it just tells you how you can circumvent it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_Belgium
stable gull
likely written by someone whose website was blocked
honestly, govt shouldn't try going after tech industry. They rarely have the people for understanding it, and tech people are rather smart at coming up with ways to bypass things entirely
summer cedar
This, really.
summer cedar
The good news is by the time USA recovers, we should have Unreal 8.
With 500 FPS and 5D graphics.
summer cedar
North Carolina.
They have an office in EU too, I believe.
Or at least they have two separate business names for that purpose.
proud jay
they do have an office in stockholm afaik
stable gull
so if one day trump tells all softwares to stop doing business abroad, it will be safe?
summer cedar
It was founded in Maryland and then moved to NC.
proud jay
so if one day trump tells all softwares to stop doing business abroad, it will b...
this will be the end of america lol
summer cedar
Heh. They won't listen to him.
proud jay
it would never happen
stable gull
considering trump this time, it might
proud jay
they would just give him a few 100 million to stfu
if the billionaires are not behind him Trump won't last long
and everyone in congress would be opposed too since it would tank their stocks
stable gull
he wouldn't want to give up sweet sweet info of other countries so he probably shouldn't do it, but I don't know at this point
proud jay
of course he could tell his cronies, short the stocks, announce it, make profit and then "change his mind"
proud jay
not the first time he would be doing insider trading
stable gull
also wasn't elon behind trump, what happened, why isn't trump on X anymore
he is using some truth social something
stable gull
again?