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brittle holly
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If your floor is that dirty, you shouldn’t live there yourself lol

proud jay
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I saw this before lol, I don't think she's gonna be entering many homes at all

soft night
proud jay
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who cares

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haven't had netflix since the first time they increased prices on me lol 🏴‍☠️

soft night
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seems tehy keep on lowering quality of the service

brittle holly
proud jay
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why are you paying to get ads though

soft night
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streaming services seems have with ads then more price with no ads

brittle holly
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Both Netflix and Prime are doing something like this now, ig all those cloud storage costs are more than they anticipated

proud jay
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pretty sure they're just greedy c*nts

brittle holly
proud jay
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I keep my wife busy with the disney+ I stole off my brother

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and stuff on my home server

brittle holly
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Well we used to have Netflix for free from her parents

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But then they got tricked by their ISP into getting it as an add-on, which didn’t allow multi-user anymore

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We could’ve told them that but they never asked

proud jay
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big sad

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what's the point of having it through your ISP instead of just through netflix though

brittle holly
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Yep. So now I’m paying…for ads

brittle holly
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But ofc there’s the major catch

soft night
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what ISP i use cant even get netflix only but as a bundle

brittle holly
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Having worked for those cunts -as Ben would say it, I know they hide all the important details

proud jay
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here we have ISP that also offer netflix, but it's just the same price, the only difference is that you can use the same remote or something lol

soft night
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telia play have it here in the digibox the mtv katsomo and netflix buttons so those are also a bundle too

brittle holly
soft night
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neo the telia used to had TV box now its play box as it first was just get bought some setup box then they own still branded as telia tv the look came to as hockey puck now it is just more square flat box as setup box as the brand for the isp offering changed from TV to Play

proud jay
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It would be really nice if you took some english lessons

summer cedar
brittle holly
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He kinda already has

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His gestures are gifs

median wraith
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What are the best psychology games?

proud jay
median wraith
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oh no

cursive crypt
median wraith
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idk really, thinking of In Sound Mind?

cursive crypt
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As you awake in the corridors of an inexplicable building, you find the environment takes on a life of its own and leads you to discover a series of victims, all exposed to the same experimental chemical. In your search for answers, bizarre visions emerge and introduce a host of imposing horrors…and a cat named Tonia.From the creators of the cul...

Price

$3.84

Recommendations

3457

Metacritic

75

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But it looks like a Psy + Horror

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In that sense, maybe uuh... that one with the teddy bears 🤔

median wraith
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which one?

proud jay
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FNAF?

median wraith
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but those are horror, no psychology about games

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not talking about psychological horror*

proud jay
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Before Your Eyes is cool game

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idk if that's what you're looking for

cursive crypt
proud jay
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idk what you're looking for tbh

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what do you mean with psychology game

cursive crypt
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Darkest Dungeon? 🤔

soft night
proud jay
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someone should make lightest dungeon too

median wraith
cursive crypt
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Ah, I have one. I heard good stuff about it:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1092790/Inscryption/

Just found the link.

From the creator of Pony Island and The Hex comes the latest mind melting, self-destructing love letter to video games. Inscryption is an inky black card-based odyssey that blends the deckbuilding roguelike, escape-room style puzzles, and psychological horror into a blood-laced smoothie. Darker still are the secrets inscribed upon the cards...In...

Price

$7.99

Recommendations

105138

Metacritic

85

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median wraith
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you can learn from or so

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There are others like Soma for example where everything is a lie so up to some extend is psychological game

cursive crypt
median wraith
median wraith
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Actually "Valley" is up to an extend another physiological game

proud jay
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firewatch maybe?

median wraith
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and firewatch if I remember correctly too

proud jay
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Dear Esther?

median wraith
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that one too

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yeah played all those

proud jay
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That Dragon, Cancer?

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The Cat Lady?

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Omori?

median wraith
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didn't knew about those

cursive crypt
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Nobody knew.

median wraith
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so taking notes

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@proud jay thank you btw

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hows doing the guitar travel?

proud jay
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no updates yet

errant raven
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@empty dune we got female primearchs and Cholorks before gta 6

proud jay
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@summer cedar your bread is ready for pick up

cursive crypt
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This looks like my veggie cheese I just took out from the refrigerator.

empty dune
proud jay
proud jay
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it's been there for like almost 2 weeks I think

empty dune
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See? Pompeii bread

cursive crypt
proud jay
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hmm

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maybe I should give it longer and eat it like cheese

empty dune
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Im really dissatisfied with my progress for the last couple weeks and the more i grow dissatisfied the slower my progress gets

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Its like being perpetually exhausted and in a panic attack at the same time lol

cursive crypt
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i.e. you are burning out?

empty dune
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maybe

proud jay
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maybe just don't work on it for a few days

empty dune
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i have been missing ALL my deadlines and goals for the last few weeks

tulip orbit
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help other people with their projects for a bit, it might help give you ideas and motivation

proud jay
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at least you have something to talk to the therapist about now

empty dune
proud jay
cursive crypt
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Right? Right?!

empty dune
proud jay
cursive crypt
empty dune
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im however in an......unique situation

proud jay
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you're putting pressure on yourself

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which makes it probably even more stressfull

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and what do you do if the game is out

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cause let's be honest, it might not make a living either

empty dune
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oh its not, i fully expect it to flop. what i do plan to do however is try and attract more funding than i have currently. I can only go so far based on concept and prototypes but a launched game makes my position so much stronger. Plus the savings im talking about? It was amassed in 2 years.

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which is why i am confident i can just go back to boring jobs as a fallback if this fails

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and try again in a few years if the worst happens

errant raven
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Cholorcs

empty dune
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eh, who cares, orks are supposed to be funni green men go pew pew

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who cares if they are mexican

proud jay
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strange question, do you work on your game in the weekends?

empty dune
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i work everyday, non stop. even during eating i am doing minor tasks

proud jay
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see

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that's a problem

empty dune
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yeeeeah

proud jay
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doing anything 24/7 will fuck you up

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even if you like it a lot

errant raven
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Living, I did that 24/7. Biggest contributor to me being so fucked up

empty dune
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im kinda a workaholic

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got it from my parents

empty dune
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but yeah, maybe i should slow down a bit

pearl elk
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Im not a streamoholic

proud jay
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since you don't have an actual job

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I would say treat it as a job

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you can work a bit longer since it's for yourself

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but take some chill hours at night

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and don't work in weekends

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or at least not regularly

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but that's just my opinion

cursive crypt
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Touching grass and getting a gf helps here, they distract.

errant raven
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Dont get a gf

proud jay
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get a boyfriends instead

pearl elk
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Get a gf who touches grass

cursive crypt
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Get a grass which touches gf

pearl elk
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Grass friend

errant raven
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Grass fed friend

empty dune
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grass are friends, not food

errant raven
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I wish I had 2 more stomachs so I could eat grass

proud jay
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you already have 2?

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cause cows have like 4

errant raven
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Cows have 3

empty dune
proud jay
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american education strikes again

pearl elk
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Imagine the world before grass

proud jay
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technically it's one stomach

errant raven
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Looks like 3 to me

proud jay
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4 chambers

proud jay
empty dune
errant raven
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Boom booms and pewz pews make freedom ring

proud jay
errant raven
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Everyone on twitter gets triggered

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That's its whole schtick

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That's what being fatherless does to people

pearl elk
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Daddy Elon

empty dune
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@proud jay fun fact, indian gov has been trying to grow a domestic video game industry for a few years now. they provide a considerable amount of moolah but only if you have launched atleast 1 game and have atleast 75% of your staff be indian citizen

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its a pretty good deal and ive been trying to hit their deadlines lol

proud jay
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1/1 > 75%

cursive crypt
empty dune
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its called cash cow for a reason

pearl elk
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I make heaps of cash off cows

proud jay
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but do they count guitars as people

proud jay
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cause you could release tic tac toe and it's a released game

empty dune
empty dune
proud jay
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so they're making the rich richer smh

empty dune
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they mainly are pivoted towards mobile gaming

empty dune
errant raven
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Mobile gaming, my favorite

pearl elk
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Moobile gaming 🤠

errant raven
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400 games and all of them are literally the same

empty dune
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iirc the revenue threshold was like 50k a year

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thats like, idk , 500$

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600

pearl elk
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Just make a fake gameplay video, vertical slice done

empty dune
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ah yes the day before strategy

empty dune
# pearl elk Moobile gaming 🤠

funny thing, on one hand they were doing this game dev shit, on another a random minister went public and said they were looking to ban steam in india lol

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it was pretty funny in hindsight but at that moment i was shit scared

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its like they dont talk to each other or something

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and then there was the livestream our prime minister did of him playing games from indian studios

empty dune
errant raven
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Is that game banned in native america

proud jay
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thumbnail seems ai generated too 👍

proud jay
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@empty dune where ship?

proud jay
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so what you working on now

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I'm personally working on trying to not buy this guitar

empty dune
proud jay
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is midjourney your resident artist

proud jay
empty dune
proud jay
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ah, collab with Ambulance's new roommate

empty dune
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the middle button doesnt work

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sadge noises

proud jay
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I remember ring selection

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I had to fix that crap for shootas blood and teef

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it was broken as shit that they took it from their previous game

median wraith
proud jay
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the icon kinda looks like you're zooming in on a kidney

queen isle
pearl elk
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we cant have buttons looking the same now can we, that would go against the dark patterns we have people trained on

celest musk
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somehow it's good, while at the same time it's not, but without being in the uncanny valley

soft night
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racing weekend here

proud jay
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where are the racists?

soft night
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not those who compete but one booth there

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the sidecars are on the bridge

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it is a video

brittle holly
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Kinda looks like Latvia

river sable
tulip orbit
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I has a question... So I'm making a kindof dungeon crawler, procedurally generated maps, random loot drops with rarity and possibly modifiers. sorta thinking about it having some rogue-like aspects to it... But I'm having trouble deciding on the control/UI system. Currently, you have a primary weapon you equip in the equipment/character screen, and then a hotbar of 4 slots that you would equip abilities or consumables, that you select first then right mouse button to use. Left mouse uses the primary weapon. But it doesnt feel right when I play it, right now I've only got a gun as a weapon but want to add melee (have a hard time making the anims for that)

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Wondering if I should switch to having all weapons/abilities etc on the hotbar, so you can switch during play, and then left mouse does primary attack, and having a secondary attack or a block with the right mouse (on applicable items)

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or something else?

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with a gun, and I run out of ammo I'd have to go into inventory screen and swap weapons there. Tho if I go melee, there'd be no ammo so I wouldnt have to worry about running out, and then the hotbar could be just an activation thing hitting the number keys

cursive crypt
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Most games seems to have melee on keyboard.

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I mean, action + gun games.

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Check how they are done?

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e.g. Mass Defect.

river sable
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what about a primary / secondary weapon slot (ranged / melee) and a hotkey to swap between them (if your melee isn't just a shove / hit with gun)

tulip orbit
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Hmm thats a good idea. Then its still kindof a "loadout" that you sortof have to plan ahead with

river sable
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yyep

tulip orbit
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and then I'll make the hotbar activation based instead of select then use

river sable
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I'd look to dota for some inspiration there, they have a ton of different options for activating items

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as in: pressing 1,2,3,4 activates a selection mode (meaning preview AoE, vector targeting, etc) left click triggers the ability / item / consumable

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or 1,2,3,4 quick cast on key down: activate ability when key is down without having to left click

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or quick cast on key up: enter selection mode, activate ability when key is released

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personally I really like quick cast on key up, feels like it's best of both worlds: you get to correct your aim a bit but it feels faster than having to left click to confirm

fathom wadi
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dota, lol, diablo, lots of examples of that. Path of exile too. And diablo and path of exile both support controllers.

cursive crypt
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But these have no shooting mechanic so much?

fathom wadi
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sure they do. Demon Hunter in diablo, Ranger in poe

cursive crypt
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I mean, guns. 🔫

tulip orbit
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is hard for me to pull from those games cause I dont actually play them

fathom wadi
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this is why gaming is a vital part of game dev. Thats my excuse if anyone asks why im playing Path of Exile anyway 😄

tulip orbit
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but activate on key up could be good, if I can think of attacks that might require course correction

summer cedar
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It might feel more natural this way.

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Allow the player to remap keys, of course.

tulip orbit
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thats one of the issues I'm having atm, I dont actually have any skills yet... I always suck at thinking them up and designing stuff like that

fathom wadi
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rule 1 of any control system IN MY OPINION ONLY TM, everything should be rebindable.

summer cedar
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Keep in mind that gamers use mice with many teeth... er, buttons these days.
Gamers with BIGGGG egos use mice with extra teeth, er.... even more buttons.
So, remap is a good thing.

river sable
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go download dota, demo the heroes and get some inspiration 😄

cursive crypt
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nah, dota is ... eww

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Something with shooting mechanic.

tulip orbit
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being able rebind your keys should just be a default for 90% of games

fathom wadi
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diablo 4 is free on game pass isnt it?

summer cedar
summer cedar
river sable
tulip orbit
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I'm not 100% sure guns will stay in my game, it was just an easy thing to test for damaging things

river sable
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also dota is GOAT (plus it's free)

cursive crypt
fathom wadi
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4 no. 3 was close

summer cedar
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It's free whether you like D2 or not on Game Pass.

tulip orbit
summer cedar
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Consider Ice Bullet, with a chance to freeze your enemy.

tulip orbit
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skill priming?

fathom wadi
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you can always watch gameplay videos to get an idea

tulip orbit
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oh

summer cedar
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Prime the skill - press skill key - then unleash - right mouse.

cursive crypt
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Whatever the case, an example should be chosen from games which most closely resemble the style.
Generation of dungeons, guns and abilities.

summer cedar
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Consider Stun Bullet - from King's Avatar.

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Slow Bullet, so many different possible bullets.

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Dance of Bullets - Spray 'n Pray.

fathom wadi
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PoE has a good range of control types for different skills. There are straight up shooting with aim assist, a direct aim, channelling abilities, turret/totem abilities, template abilities. And they all have a mobile control system adapted so it's transferrable to controller really easily.

tulip orbit
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Ok thanks guys, I've got enough to develop some foreward momentum again 🙂

fathom wadi
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indeed

cursive crypt
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No ShitPass.

summer cedar
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You are a dev; prone to laziness.

tulip orbit
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and distractions!

summer cedar
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Indeed.

empty dune
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I had a ui crisis pretty recently too lol

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Redesigned the entire input system

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Hence the shader meth

summer cedar
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I have a great dig involving psychology right here, but I will refrain from using it. 😄

empty dune
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Channel your inner dwarf

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Dig

summer cedar
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Can't; it's about something we were discussing last night.

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Remember? 😛

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It'd be at your expense.

empty dune
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How is ui related to therapy tf

summer cedar
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🎶

tulip orbit
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yay pizza distractions!

summer cedar
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toppings?

tulip orbit
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double pepperoni!

river sable
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plenty of glue in the cheese I hope?

tulip orbit
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I hope too

river sable
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looks more like soup hell ngl

soft night
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yeah it looks like soup than pizzas

tulip orbit
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liquid pizza maybe?

summer cedar
tulip orbit
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no

summer cedar
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🥹

celest musk
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i have some NSFW meme which your therapist might like raindust

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since it deals with trauma

soft night
summer cedar
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You never know.

empty dune
celest musk
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xD

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it's a gem, right?

empty dune
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its...........something

broken sigil
celest musk
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AI gen

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real BM wouldn't go outside

tulip orbit
celest musk
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you wish

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there was some hand fetish talk in here few days ago

broken sigil
tulip orbit
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😮 how/why not?

broken sigil
broken sigil
cursive crypt
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Nice beach.

celest musk
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is that a beach or some artificial thing?

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like, man made

cursive crypt
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lol

broken sigil
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Nope lol
First time sunburnt in 15 years

broken sigil
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Lmao

summer cedar
broken sigil
summer cedar
tulip orbit
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after obviously

soft night
river sable
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it puts the lotion in its skin

cursive crypt
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Gotta bookmark holidays.

median wraith
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what a nice crab

upper gazelle
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hi chat

tulip orbit
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my mom called, then my sis called... now I've forgotten what the heck I was working on

broken sigil
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There is not a cm of my skin that isn't fried and now I have a headache and feel sick

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Yay

tulip orbit
median wraith
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So hows doing the travel to Italy?

median wraith
median wraith
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that don't save you from the headache from excess

errant raven
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Still stops you from getting cooked by UVs

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Headaches are so much better to deal with than huge chunks of sun burn

median wraith
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drink water and so

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man the stone and the sand are reversed

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or maybe not

median wraith
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textures arrays and atlas are awesome always

errant raven
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Where diamond

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How many noise maps are you gonna use, double of what minecraft uses?

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Beat them at their own game

fleet tangle
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Good tribes map right there

errant raven
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My dumbass thought you made the things emiting light diamond shaped

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Only now realized you was using the diamond block and ore textures

broken sigil
broken sigil
upper gazelle
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im living the life

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listening to nirvana

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working on my ue project

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helping my mates girlfriend help my mate get over a mental break

celest musk
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holding her hair?

errant raven
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I see why game freak only puts a limited amount of each pokemon in one game now

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This fan game has every single pokemon, every single item, every single pokeball, etc etc. Making it really difficult to pick who I want on my team

upper gazelle
empty dune
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Now, get a girl

summer cedar
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He's got sensitive skin now.

drifting beacon
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frog elf

summer cedar
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Failure Frame and I Parry Everything - I hope the animators maintain a consistent quality.

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And that their story adaptation doesn't go down the drain from episode 2.

median wraith
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bet you did more km than me to see the golum in the beach

soft night
errant raven
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Does it have spoon storage capabilities

soft night
# errant raven Does it have spoon storage capabilities
errant raven
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Unchanced

errant raven
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@trail ore what the dog doin

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Fr tho these mobile game ads are unhinged as hell

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Rain dust will be making these types of games soon

tulip orbit
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wtf. On my main hud widget, its saying on my player character variable the hotbar only has 4 slots. On my player character, I have 5

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and its not triggering the breakpoint

tulip orbit
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looks good

cursive crypt
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Wrong Perlin slices.

broken sigil
median wraith
broken sigil
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Damage report day 2

cursive crypt
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cheezus f

broken sigil
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Lmao

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Yep, fried

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Properly microwaved

cursive crypt
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Haven't you heard of Protection from Fire?

median wraith
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jesus

cursive crypt
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With your skin, you shouldn't move below 50 SPF

median wraith
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worst part comes 2 days later or so

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use aloe or something

cursive crypt
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yogurt too

unborn lotus
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Some oils and spices and a proper steak

broken sigil
cursive crypt
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You prolly went into water or somehow scrubbed it off from you.

broken sigil
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Possible yeah

cursive crypt
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Anyway, at least you changed the monotony 👍

broken sigil
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Definitely yeah, it was quite nice

broken sigil
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🤣

median wraith
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<@&213101288538374145>

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zanks

soft night
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the sidecar the winner of the sidecar race 1 in the image

normal owl
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Hey how's it going everyone? My name is Justin and just joined

cursive crypt
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I join everyday.

normal owl
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Thank you. Awesome!

soft night
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join the coffee

fleet tangle
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Join the dark side!

empty dune
pearl elk
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This is a friendly reminder for programmers to wear sunscreen if youre awake during daylight hours

cursive crypt
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Once upon time you had to wear one in front of the CRT monitors.

median wraith
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this is yellow or green, tell me

pearl elk
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mustard gas

median wraith
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mustard is yellow

cursive crypt
median wraith
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kinda both

median wraith
pearl elk
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its not a Hevedy colour tool 😮

median wraith
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exactly

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banned

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also 7B, what the heck is that

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oh its hex all the way wtf

pearl elk
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hexadecimals

median wraith
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I'm trying to find a cool way to generate a vec and just use a single random

pearl elk
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FMath::VRand()*Magnitude

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convert that to linearcolour and voila, mustard gas

soft night
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tried to catch the winner of the race in pic but the timing wasnt right thanks to cam on phone

cursive crypt
soft night
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how you like it?

median wraith
pearl elk
pearl elk
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yeah youre calling it 3 times too 😛

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you need to cache output of pure function after evaluation

median wraith
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yeah fixed

pearl elk
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youre still only random in a limited number of dimensions since it'll sort of fix your quadrants based on the number generated

median wraith
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technically the only limitation is those cannot be negative

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and the first one min 0.1

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actually can be negative

pearl elk
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is there a reason you didnt just use vrand?

median wraith
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there is a switch on the procedural gen using a stream, once switch uses a single stream random call float, means that the whole generation result is different as get x2 calls less each gen

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I was forcing to call another 2 random numbers but, trying to see if can do it other way

pearl elk
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you got enough type conversion and operators here it might just be faster esp since vrand is pure and this is BP

median wraith
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well doing it for the marketplace

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don't feel like making a whole plugin right now

soft night
pearl elk
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lol that was the longest IG post ever

soft night
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well its also thanking sponsors too

tulip orbit
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sigh. Every project. I make it first person cause I figure it'll be easier. But then I get to the point of needing to make animations and adding weapons and I just have no clue what I'm doing. There's no default control rig for the first person arms, found one to buy but.. meeehhh... And animating the 3rd person rig, then transferring to first person never looks right

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atleast, I've had no luck

fathom wadi
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just make a rig. it's like lego simple dude

tulip orbit
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Tried making rigs before, they've always suuucked

tulip orbit
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Hm. Whats Modular rig?

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hhmmm inteerreessting

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modular rigs are great! 1min and I've got a working rig as far as I can tell!

summer cedar
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Look upon this holy sword and tremble!

tulip orbit
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looks as good as my animations!

brittle holly
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Weekend update with Michael Che and Colin Jost

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proud jay
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why don't you just boot up minecraft instead

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damn, this is the dumbest avatar decoration ever that I got for free

tulip orbit
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get yourself a donkey

proud jay
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that guy fucks dragons

zinc matrix
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is task manager right to indicate that a game is 32bits?

proud jay
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if it's 32 bit yeah

zinc matrix
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any game made for DX12

proud jay
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it's possible

zinc matrix
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most games made for PS4 and Windows Vista onwards do not support 32bits and less than 4GB of RAM. Yet task manager says it's 32bits. Is this right?

median wraith
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@trail ore you are doing boxes, whats the best way to get the size of a box in given direction or between two vector points ? sweeney_activate

fleet tangle
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depends what the points are...

median wraith
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I know the box extend and origin or in its alt the min and max.
Aside from the box info got two points in space to check the actual intersected distance I need or a normal dir to know just the size closer to an axis x/y/z

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What I actually need is to get thr bounding box size at given direction

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need to calculate the space in between models using their bounding box size in the given direction I need it

median wraith
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actually no, the idea is to get the size of a single bounding box in some given direction from center

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tomorrow can give an example

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maybe the best idea is just transform the bounding box from local to the space I need

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thing is how you transform the direction you will check the size and the direction in the bounding

celest musk
median wraith
celest musk
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i want the original map file to make some before screenshots xD

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spent 2 days to make a fricking "outside"

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as the original was a mess

median wraith
celest musk
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i don't have it in the vault 😦

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it's not super important either

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it's a kinda nice pack, but so many flaws and the missing outside....

median wraith
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sounds like it

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but tbh getting the closer x/y/z size that's closer to given vector can work

celest musk
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guess it's good now

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wish i had some before screenshots

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with the exposed concrete "garage", etc. xD

round burrow
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i like your garage

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and the flowers next to it

edgy elm
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Am doing a dum optimization and gotta move everything from one class to another and I'm annoyed

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Copy Pasting everything and then fixing all references angy

brittle holly
summer cedar
cursive crypt
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ngl, that house needs a soap

pearl elk
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I think it needs a foundation before the soap 😛

cursive crypt
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I like the rustic door tho.

upper gazelle
empty dune
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I did nothing for the last two days except play wasteland 3 lol

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Break's over, time to work

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@chrome gull play wasteland series games, they were what inspired the fallout series

brittle holly
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@summer cedar what you playing now

empty dune
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This was my character background lmao

summer cedar
brittle holly
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Hogwarts is on sale but recent reviews say last update made it unplayable

summer cedar
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I have Hogwarts. I liked it, but I haven't played much past the beginning.
SO MANY things to do. 😄

summer cedar
empty dune
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no, wasteland 3

summer cedar
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Ah.

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Where ship?

empty dune
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i took a couple days break

summer cedar
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Work harder!

brittle holly
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I took the day off from work today so I put in a lot of hours into my game but now I need a break

summer cedar
brittle holly
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and I'm hitting the hard limits of Manor Lords' early access

summer cedar
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@empty dune Not you, naturally.

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Make ship.

brittle holly
upper gazelle
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still important to take breaks

brittle holly
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I wonder if @empty dune will release his ship game before @timber viper releases bp2Cpp 😛

summer cedar
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I am watching Galactic Civilizations IV on Pravus's channel.

empty dune
brittle holly
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idk, every thing I'm looking at on Steam looks either too boring or not worth the price, even with sale on

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can't even bring myself to get one of the featured demos, it's all meh 🥲

pearl elk
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I will win the race by simply streaming this week 😛

brittle holly
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no one's watching 😛

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@broken sigil you still playing Titanfall 2?

empty dune
pearl elk
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I have less hate viewers than the acolyte so I consider that winning 😅

brittle holly
empty dune
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i havent even watched mandalorian season 3 lol, forget acolyte

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i used to hope that they'd make a revan series

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now, disney better not touch revan 🔪

pearl elk
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Im looking forward to the gender swapped Robin Hood or King Arthur

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Id love to see Maid Marian as a bloke in drag, that could be alot of fun

empty dune
brittle holly
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oh no you spoiled it for me

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jk, idc

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I'm dl-ing TF2 to see if I still enjoy it

empty dune
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its a 20+ year old game, just play it ffs

empty dune
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KOTOR, Mass effect and Dragon age was so good even their creators suck compared to them lol

brittle holly
summer cedar
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@brittle holly Did you play Warcana?

brittle holly
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no, I can't really digest those graphics anymore except for a few rare exceptions

empty dune
pearl elk
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I tried playing Mass Effect but... its umm

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I think I should try the second one

brittle holly
empty dune
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cause i saw that coming but goddamn it was still epic

brittle holly
pearl elk
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It cant be as bad as the Halo twist 😛

empty dune
brittle holly
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did they have to come up with alternate endings for Halo ?

empty dune
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like one of the most legendary twists in gaming history lol

brittle holly
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lmg, you're a Sith

empty dune
pearl elk
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Master Sith

brittle holly
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your dad is Darth... oh wait that's done

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k TF2 downloaded in 5 mins so here goes nothing

pearl elk
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omg now you have the difficult choice

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red or blue

empty dune
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and they told you that you were revan right at the start of the game. but i can guarantee you heard all those dialogues and still missed the connection until the second half of the game lol

brittle holly
empty dune
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whats sixth sense

brittle holly
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A movie

pearl elk
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its like the 5th element

brittle holly
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Uhh… why is it still searching for data centers

empty dune
brittle holly
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Christ I had to add an environment variable to fix this data center search issue, never done that before for a game to work lol. Not sure how online connections are related to the cpu but sure

pearl elk
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youve proved youre human now

empty dune
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or has he?

hey there vsauce michael here

pearl elk
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say potator

brittle holly
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Potator

empty dune
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Today we are gonna find out about the turing test!

brittle holly
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Which one

empty dune
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Vivisection

brittle holly
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Took too long find a game so I uninstalled 😬

empty dune
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perks of having fast internet i guess

brittle holly
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I mean I can times that by each match I would play in my head

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Was gonna try Apex but recent reviews indicate EA pretty much abandoned it so it’s unplayable now

empty dune
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for me installing and uninstalling is a full commitment

pearl elk
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EA abandoning a game... never

empty dune
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guess which game they didnt abandon

brittle holly
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A few weeks ago I redownloaded a game I used to love. Spent a few mins, and noped out, uninstalled. Next day I was like, maybe I was too trigger-happy. Tried again, after 5 mins I was like nope I can’t do this lol

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Def losing patience with age

empty dune
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yeah thats right, this thing is on pc now lol

unborn lotus
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no game this year yet

pearl elk
empty dune
pearl elk
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I thought you got cards then played them in some jrpg thing

empty dune
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this one is the uh, how do you describe it

pearl elk
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I played abit of it on my phone until I hit the paywall

empty dune
empty dune
brittle holly
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same with Warframe, couldn't do it again man

pearl elk
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they do it in NFS on mobile too, each card is built using shards

brittle holly
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trying Ghost Recon Breakpoint again, see if I can handle the multiplayer

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I didn't much like the campaign

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Wildlands was much better imo

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despite the Punisher being in the former

empty dune
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this game has admittedly gotten much more friendly over the years, i had quit for almost 4 years but recently came back

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like a couple months ago

pearl elk
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any game which requires you to login on specific days to get those rewards can go straight in the trash

brittle holly
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nfs unbound was fun but they were like these folk that come in here and say "I'll just add multiplayer after"

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and some really atrocious graphical bugs tied to DX12 made it unplayable after one patch I think

pearl elk
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unbound just needed to have that art style consistently applied to the whole game

empty dune
brittle holly
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well and maybe actually have Heat applied to multiplayer

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like there's no cops lol

pearl elk
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well NFS mobile has like say, turbo parts can only be collected on a tuesday

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what kinda crap is that

brittle holly
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the shop is only open on Tuesdays obviously

pearl elk
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If theyre gonna give me a job atleast pay me award rates 😛

empty dune
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lol this game has that too, though they circumvented the frustration by adding fuckloads of those gear into the game store (free2play stores)

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oh you wanna know something hilarious?

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this game, for a while (back in the dark dark ages) had specific gear that you could only obtain by logging in at a certain time of the day

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and that time was not disclosed early

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you logged in and prayed lol

pearl elk
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Im surprised these tactics work on people

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easier just to nope out

empty dune
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school/college kids with no money and lots of free time lol

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older folks would just be like "this isnt worth my time OR money"

pearl elk
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maybe more people need to learn the old adage time is money

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I heard someone say something I took to heart about valuing the players time if they are willing to give it to your game

brittle holly
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it's not about us

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it's about the 2% of players that are very easily manipulated and get quickly addicted (aka whales)

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that's why they don't even bother hiding the scumminess

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cause they know those 2% will fall for it and pay for all of us

pearl elk
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why not just price the plankton out of the game from the get go

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if Star Citizen can have a 25k version I can get away with a 5k one 😛

brittle holly
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these f-ers have all kinds of tactics for pathologizing the game in the way that is most efficient to extract that whale blood

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anyways, Breakpoint is ready to play

pearl elk
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whale fat you mean

unborn lotus
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Amrita juice

summer cedar
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I like Galactic Civilizations IV. It reminds me of Endless Space.

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The customisation options are awesome, as usual for the series.

summer cedar
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I'll ask why based on the answer.

unborn lotus
summer cedar
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Nice. Fresh and honest.

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Of course, depends on where the orange came from.

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Tree or lab?

empty dune
unborn lotus
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Its from avatar 2 guys, cmon 😅

empty dune
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yeah i know lol

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its just funny

summer cedar
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I liked the environment in the Avatar game.

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I watched it on TheRadBrad's channel. The flying was pretty great.

broken sigil
chrome gull
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I'll play them

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at some point

chrome gull
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nothing else interests me

brittle holly
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Already have it tho

chrome gull
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I look in the deep discount section and lo and behold, I already own whatever catches my eye there

brittle holly
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Where you been lately ?

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You still coding?

chrome gull
chrome gull
brittle holly
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The comments are quite entertaining

chrome gull
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whoever wrote it sucks ass

chrome gull
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with my game, that is

brittle holly
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Why from scratch

chrome gull
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I opened the existing one a while ago and it's more ass than I remember it to be

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plus I forgot everything that I did there lol

brittle holly
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Refactoring is better than starting over

chrome gull
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Basically I've chained dependancies together and now if I try to remove or change something, the whole thing is wrecked

brittle holly
chrome gull
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figured I'll just start over

chrome gull
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but now I'm not 😭

brittle holly
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You are, just takes a minute to remember

chrome gull
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I was preparing to organize and comment out everything but then I dropped it because life happened

chrome gull
summer cedar
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@brittle holly I remember watching Death Stranding on YT and enjoying it, but it seemed to be one of those games that's great to see rather than play.

brittle holly
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The whole walking simulator thing is exaggerated

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You have vehicles

summer cedar
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It was on Game Pass for a bit, but left pretty quickly. I guess not many players played it there.

summer cedar
brittle holly
brittle holly
summer cedar
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I think you get the two-wheeler early on.

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yeah.

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I enjoyed watching one of the slime bosses being machine gunned to death. 😄

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At that point, I was like, "Where was this machine gun this entire playthrough?"

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The graphics were absolutely amazing for the time, though. I LOVED how cinematic everything felt.

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I finally updated my bio; should've done it days ago.

brittle holly
summer cedar
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The reverse evolution gif was really good.

celest musk
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10k seems like a good way of outsourcing

pearl elk
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more outsourcing with 40k

cursive crypt
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View from the bathroom.

cursive crypt
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The bathroom is in the building. The WC is in the forest

summer cedar
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Many game devs have passed away designing this dragon lair.

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Moral of the story: Avoid the monsters you create.

tulip orbit
summer cedar
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Unless you breath dragon fire or launch ice lightning, she probably won't.

tulip orbit
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my gas is pretty bad?

tulip orbit
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spent a few hours trying to make a control rig for the FP arms, baked the rifle idle anim to control rig, this is the result.

summer cedar
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Looks good. Are you going for 'cool' or 'realistic'?

tulip orbit
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at this point, "decent"

summer cedar
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🙂

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It's decent.

tulip orbit
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no, no its not.

summer cedar
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then make it better.

summer cedar
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stop being lazy and threatning your mum. 😛

proud jay
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naps are nice

tulip orbit
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I agree

proud jay
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time for some post nap guitar

median wraith
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damm we could be first world power

proud jay
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pretty sure spain didn't invent naps

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I mean aristotle was a pronounced napper

broken sigil
neon void
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Forgot to click check out on last months free stuff

tulip orbit
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yay its going up to 29C today, 34 later in the week. it forecasted 36c for later, yesterday

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7/10 cause of the blending

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should use the megascans trees :p

celest musk
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but the megascan tree looks better, so there's that

tulip orbit
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what kind of game dev are you? You cant release a game that doesnt require the absolute maximum hardware available and wont run at 60fps unless you're running triple 4090s

celest musk
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stop making games for poor people (including the middle class)

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games should be taxed high, change my mind

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does australia have a video game tax?

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like for energy drinks, cigarettes, etc?

tulip orbit
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Min Reqs: Ram: 2tb, drive space: 40tb, cpu: not yet developed, video card: not yet developed, 1tb vram

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anywhoo, I should build on the momentum with my game, but I'm going for a nap instead 🙂

celest musk
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oO

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i don't think that there's much margin for LODs on cubes

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you can do merge faces with similar textures

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i think minecraft does smth similar

tulip orbit
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nap faiL! 😦

brittle holly
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tulip orbit
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Hey I'm finally getting these animations working! tests ....ah.

fleet tangle
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My Deer Friend Nokotan

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Just wtf mate

broken sigil
tulip orbit
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your guys' UE5 projects look great!

soft night
proud jay
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I'm getting a new worklaptop this wednesday and it had win11 😔

soft night
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the devHome setup the helped coding much

celest musk
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😦

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i'm so pissed of by out of vram issues

celest musk
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problem is

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idk if a upgrade (from 12gb) to 16gb would last long enough to be worth it

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when i run the editor on an almost empty map it already uses 4GB

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i feel like either vram memory management on vulkan is horrible or it is what it is...

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so my viable upgrade paths are 4060TI or 4090 😄

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or eventually a 3090, which is economically a bad decision because of the energy consumption

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ofc not the house

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an basic test level with a floor

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yea

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and recently also switched to lumen

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also haven't found a really good way to debug video memory usage

broken sigil
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lumen is pretty vram hungry

celest musk
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how can this be 36GB?

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like, there's already 900MB allocated for render targets, on that test map

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i would love to know WHY

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are those the framebuffers?

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my biggest concern is that this is not an issue with unreal/etc but my setup

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but reading further, most of the render target budget seem to be framebuffers

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well, got at least to a point where i can hit play without crash xD

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empty startup level reduced 700MB of overhead which seemed to stay in memory

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i wonder if switching everything to virtual textures would do good

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i hoped that i could avoid it, because it seems like a shitton of work (with uncertain outcome)

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nah, already did that

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i had 8k normal / ao maps tho 😄

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i think they've been 80MB each 😄

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there's rarely an asset pack which is really optimized in that regard

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they also love textures with repeating patterns which could be smth like 128x128 at worst, and make it a 4k with 32 rows/cols

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often i spent more time fixing shit than it would take to make it from scratch

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i bought some in humble packs... -_-

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and some from someone who barely asks for money, and it was actually pretty good for the price

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i don't see the price but it was <$10

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it looks awful on the screenshots tho (creator probably has a shit pc, which is good so they are forced to optimize :D)

broken sigil
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Testing Deja self moderation berk
It's pretty interesting

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I have some other uses for function calling (just finished building a framework for it to allow the model to call functions) but moderation is a fun one to test the system with

celest musk
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it's especially fun if it bans you without reasons

broken sigil
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it doesn't take a any actions with it, just getting it to reliably call the functions

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probably gonna have a hall of shame channel or something to display the Deja reports lol

celest musk
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xD

broken sigil
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having the model be able to call functions opens up a lot of possibilities

celest musk
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i got to imagine how you look into that channel for the first time after a month awaiting a good time, and then it's all messages of you because Deja knows you best and already hates you 😄

broken sigil
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lol

celest musk
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ponkkis, this is a texture i've changed earlier today

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the evil thing isn't the repeating only

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it's also 1800x1350px

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so it can't even use mips

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just, pure evil

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yes

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actually two to get the offset

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but thats it

tulip orbit
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I like him. 🙂

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jk, not even clicking on link

scarlet cedar
broken sigil
tulip orbit
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no

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I need to focus for more than 5s and get something done on my game

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pfft, lost cause

broken sigil
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well that's the benefit of function calling
It can leave the task it sucks at to the program to calculate the results for it

broken sigil
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these are the requests on the left the model made and results on the right from my functions

scarlet cedar
broken sigil
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what timestamps? 😆

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it was like 1-2 seconds

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probably sent at like 1:01:58 or something

celest musk
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until it starts to hallicunate and spits out made up stuff

broken sigil
broken sigil
# celest musk until it starts to hallicunate and spits out made up stuff

That's the thing, it can't (unless it ofc refuses to call functions and does it itself)
But so far it always calls them, tends to call them for anything remotely complex that has a chance of failing, for something like 5 + 10 it does it itself, it's pretty interesting to watch it decide between doing it itself or calling the functions

And the function calls lead to this

celest musk
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how does it decide tho?

broken sigil
celest musk
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like is there some way to tell you the "weight" of the path it has taken?

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to consider it an valid response

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does the model know about the functions through it's context?

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or is that a layer on top of the LLM? like ChatGPT does afaik?!

broken sigil
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not really

celest musk
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you triggered BM

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see

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even i don't fully agree on that 😄

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now i wonder, do they roll a dice for the start of their response tho?

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like does it use a random seed to start each response?

scarlet cedar
broken sigil
# celest musk does the model know about the functions through it's context?

It's a layer around the LLM
With some macro magic I have my LLM functions auto register with rest of my systems that dumps them into the LLM context, together with the calling conventions and at generation time the communication with the LLM is ran in a feedback loop until the LLMs stop chaining the function calls to get the answer it needs

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then comes actual response generation

broken sigil
# celest musk now i wonder, do they roll a dice for the start of their response tho?

LLMs are by design perfectly deterministic (if you use the temperature of 0 or equivalent for top_k, but the actual model inference is deterministic)
ChatGPT and other consumer LLMs use semi random sampling, which means the output logits (the actual raw values from the model) are divided by the temperature, so lower temperature bumps the already most probable tokens which spikes their probability and lowers everything else when passed through softmax

Higher values than 1 flatten out the probability distribution so lower probability tokens have a higher chance of being picked, this is used to make conversations more diverse
In the final stage the token is then selected with a weighted random, so if you use temperature (or top_k) it is random between the most probable tokens
If you instead use 0 as the temperature this will switch to greedy sampling which just takes the most probable token and this is 100% deterministic

There are also sampling mechanism like beam search, which runs multiple sampled sequences in parallel and selects the one with highest "confidence"

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As much as people wanna disagree it's a fact that LLMs do have primitive reasoning capabilities

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this semi random sampling really doesn't matter that much when it comes to that because it's a random sample among the most probable tokens, not a random sample out of the entire vocabulary

celest musk
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@trail ore is that true? or is BM trolling again?

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last time it was only $0.50

broken sigil
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I've been working with and on LLMs and training them for the year and a half, I think I know a thing or 2 CB_catcry

celest musk
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1 for sure, which is Deja

broken sigil
celest musk
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hah

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she said the same about you

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that's the equivalent to what compile times used to be 30 years ago i guess

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wonder if it's worth to implement the GPU lightmass patch for vulkan or if this will just drive me to the next out of VRAM one way street

round burrow
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hi

celest musk
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there's a rule in #lounge that whenever someone says "hi" they have to bring a sandwich

broken sigil
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for every person in the chat

celest musk
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no it's not

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Lawdy established the tradition

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yes

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because she never brought a sandwich

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@empty dune can confirm that

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those wheren't jokes

errant raven
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The horror

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I lost 40 more points of elo in chess to accounts that were made 1 week - 1 month ago

celest musk
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ok, she did once

pale scarab
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I WISH CYBERPUNK WORLD IS REAL

brittle holly
soft night
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there is realistic mod for cyberpunk 2077

brittle holly
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Yes, Unrecord mod is one of them

pale scarab
pale scarab
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I find cyberpunk world is kinda neat to live in. I hope the world will be there one day

proud jay
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well

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that's distopian

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you must have a pretty bad life

pale scarab
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I mean depends. If you know what to do, you can have a great life

empty dune
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why do you wanna live in a wasteland o_0

pale scarab
pale scarab
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Sounds like you make it sounds that's a bad thing hahahha