For a game, you need the map where the player roams, and the logic, win conditions etc. Me personally I prefer the logic-aspect of things hence why I code in cpp and blueprint primarily.
Thus, I am lowkey struggling on the visual aspect of my game. I was wondering how you approached this when you createdyour games. Did you go ahead and learn all the stuff in blender and become sort of an artist yourself? Or did you like hire someone to work with you?
@dense storm
#lounge
clear horizon
dense storm
we are a team
there is 20 of us
i don't do any art or modelling
i am purely gameplay logic, and backend programmer
clear horizon
im solo is plausible to be able to do both? or would you recommend i just focuus on one (the logic side) so minimal building
what would you recommend
dense storm
dpeends how much time you have to learn
i assume your young
so as your young, and if its something you want to do, learn to do it
tulip orbit
I'm solo, doing all programming, art etc. Been working on my game for 20 years, cost me 3 marriages, 4 kids and three world wars
broken sigil
Lol
median wraith
I'm solo, doing all programming, art etc. Been working on my game for 20 years, ...
Everything true until the first "," right ?
oh yeah got the random points already, next step the whole procedural city
tulip orbit
first period actually. I am doing the art but I've been only on this specific project for about a year
tulip orbit
oh, the solo part is very true. in development and social life.
median wraith
welcome to the club
clear horizon
lmfao
clear horizon
so as your young, and if its something you want to do, learn to do it
it aint smth i am tryna learn, i just wanna do the bare minimum to make a working game. Art isn't something i'm good at nor want to learn.
So i mean its standard we learn blender to make models
but since thats for like pros
would u recommend i just like stick with placing cubes in unreal engine
or is blender straightforwar enough for me
and yeah i am relatively young compared to yall
tulip orbit
making basic shapes isnt hard in blender. And you can do a lot with just cubes/basic shapes
the other options is to spend a lot of money on the marketplace and other asset stores
clear horizon
😭 yeah i mean even with that im prob gonna end up customziing hal f the t stuff
last leaf
hard surf is easily doable by anyone
its more organic sculpting that requires some skill
clear horizon
honestly im not too worried about that, ai is able to make heads alr (meshy.ai), rest of body shouldn't be too far off now
maps, though, ai is far from creating it cant make like, say, an abandoned apartment yet cuz its too big
of a model ig
clear horizon
ooh cute
fathom wadi
it aint smth i am tryna learn, i just wanna do the bare minimum to make a workin...
If you want to do the bare minimum to make a game you will need to learn at least enough to get in a Triple A studio where you will be welcomed with apathetic arms to the dream machine where the bare minimum is profitable 😄
But seriously, I am a programmer who is useless at art. Over the years I just did a bit here and there. But it adds up. Now I kinda like taking a week to run a few art tutorials in Blender.
soft night
the hat
clear horizon
If you want to do the bare minimum to make a game you will need to learn at leas...
is it plausible to do everything in unreal? bcuz blender got its own learning curve which id rather avoid
*plausible
fathom wadi
I just went on the Tesla youtube page and they are announcing a new vehicle but for some reason it was showing Elon on stage with A.I. mouth alterations talking about doubling crypto with a QR code. Then it cuts to the same Elon on stage answering a question. It was super suspect.
fathom wadi
is it plausible to do everything in unreal? bcuz blender got its own learning cu...
it's getting there but not everything. Avoiding anything game dev is just going to slow you down though. Imagine you need a specific model. Are you going to buy it? Find a free model that is close enough?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vwo1cQHfL0 this definitely looks like a scam
Im not clicking the page or code itself. Just seeing that AI mouth manipulation made me suspect it. I can read lips so it was blatently not him talking
yeah
chat is turned off too
yeah definite scam. Checked the page name
soft night
tesla real one have checkmark
fathom wadi
yeah it came up in my recommended because I'm subbed to Tesla
Elon has done that crypto doubling qr code before too a couple of years ago
well I reported it now. Hopefully the great algorithm in the sky will deal with it. If we all say "Tesla_5_US channel is a scam" into our phones then youtube will pick it up quicker.
tulip orbit
Figures, I finally get around to taking the garbage and cardboard recycling out, try doing it one trip, but the elevator is broken 😦
had to make 2 trips down the stairs instead
edgy echo
As a kid, did you ever name a game save "The Whole World" just so you could laugh at the computer asking you if you really wanted to delete the whole world? 😂
regal pecan
well I reported it now. Hopefully the great algorithm in the sky will deal with ...
I'm surprised they're only up to Tesla 5. I figured the scammers would be making a new channel every day.
dense storm
regal pecan
Maybe they made a playlist and named it "Popular". Sneaky. And webdev moment. The real title would be "Popular videos" and wouldn't show the name of the channel under each video.
broken sigil
Maybe they made a playlist and named it "Popular". Sneaky. And webdev moment. Th...
I think you are right, this is what it normally looks like
white oxide
https://tenor.com/bhGBn.gif
butt clenches
carmine frigate
I think Tesla the company has basically turned into a grift 😛
doubt it still exists in 5 years
Elon been claiming FSD robotaxies that should have been on the road like 5 years ago, and now he is going super humanoid robots that do everything based on "AI" in 1 or 2 years...
company is basically a scam now
any1 that understands what this AI hype is build on knows this
analog marten
wind farms are good for the environment they said...
fathom wadi
any1 that understands what this AI hype is build on knows this
well that also factors in 2 important things. 1. exponential tech growth in this area and 2. the tech we don't have yet but they do.
I know we have some "openAI" and other tech, and Tesla's patents are all public domain license free, but I bet the combination of what they haven't shown us, the exponential nature of the tech's growth and power, maybe combined with a few more things along the way. I'm sure Elon's in a better position to talk about it than us still rocking last gen public AI.
carmine frigate
well that also factors in 2 important things. 1. exponential tech growth in thi...
his RND budget isnt that great
not like apple google or facebook, not even close
fathom wadi
I'm sure part of that $56 billion he just earned alongside his other investments would carry it a long way
carmine frigate
I'm sure part of that $56 billion he just earned alongside his other investments...
not really
fathom wadi
ah
carmine frigate
he cant spend that
also he wouldnt
its options to tesla stock, he wouldnt spend that on tesla
he could keep the options and sell his tesla stock and spend it on his XAI, but that wouldnt benefit tesla
you dont sell your stock options and gift it back too the company... thats just not done
ow w8, he cant sell his options yet, that takes a few years.. he could sell his stock give it too tesla, but lose controll of the company
bald move
sentient AI isnt a thing and isnt close yet
If a company breaks it its prolly gunna be google or intel
im not a big fan of intel atm, but they do some decent quantum
next in line are facebook, MS, apple
tesla. twitter spaceX not even on the list
tesla is high on sp500 market cap.. but doesnt have the profits or RND of the big guys
Xai is just a startup , twitter is in the shitter and booring company doesnt do AI
LLMs can help with a lot of stuff, but it wil be compartmentalized, not sentient or super smart
tesla cant compete with the big boys software or hardware wize... their humanoid robot is vaporware
tesla income total EVER is less than 100bil with a lot of cost
fathom wadi
plot twist. Nvidia win because their GPUs all reported back secret info ¬_¬
fathom wadi
guess not. I mean why would they really with infinite budget
some might say 3trillion is infinite in the scheme of things but written off money is better than asset money
carmine frigate
yea, only reason they dont make elec cars is cuz its high cost low margin busisness... they would love the data tho
fathom wadi
I had this idea for a quirky animation earlier today watching a video on youtube with a road rage incident. What if two self-driving Teslas got into a road rage incident? Might be pretty funny but I dunno. I'd have to write a script or do some physical comedy with it
carmine frigate
yea... cant blame em... they just get tossed 1 hype after the other
nvidia rolled upwards 😛
fathom wadi
likely that's a pretty good stance if programming is going to end up prompt based and AI gets good enough but in a generation? I dunno. Perhaps don't have them learning old crap and pickup on some new stuff that is AI related would be more appropriate advice.
carmine frigate
yea i dunno, programming is problem solving
AI might get good at it, or it might not
you still need to tell what u want and how you want it
so you need to know how you want it and what you want
fathom wadi
yeah most AI grunt work is likely things you can do with scripting languages now, or markup languages even. But we still need to write code for the AI that is developing. It's not writing itself yet.
regal pecan
Maybe haskell is more prompt friendly.
fathom wadi
I'd take anything over being stuck in python tbh
yeah the transition would take more than a generation
the "old internet" would end up being the domain of today's emulation scene coders 😄
I don't diss webdevs. I feel bad for them. We used to have a solid way to make sites, simple, fairly static for sure but got the info out there in a presentable way. Then mobile hit, one style took over, the codebase went from 3 things (markup, css, jscript) to the birth of the full stack developer. Someone who knows so much redundant bullshit to make the website look the exact same as everything else. It makes me feel bad you have to learn all that
broken sigil
ofc the CEO of a company whose entire current success is based on AI training depending on their hardware is gonna say that
The reality is that current LLMs are lightyears behind of being able to actually be competent at programming anything more complex than a snake game
regal pecan
"You don't need fundamental competence if you have our product"
Business managers: "omg yes"
fathom wadi
that reminds me of Japanese cars. They build under the pretense that the user isn't going to maintain it. So they run pretty well even when you screw them. As opposed to German cars, which run fine if you follow the maintenance instructions. If you don't, they break down. Japan knows the user isn't going to care. Germany knows you should. 😄
broken sigil
ofc the CEO of a company whose entire current success is based on AI training de...
It's a fundamental flaw of how LLMs work, they generalize pretty well for tasks they haven't seen because it can connect things to what it did train on
They can't reason, which is kinda the skill you need for programming
I'm giving it 10-15 years before actually competent systems appear
There has been a lot of very impressive research recently into improving the reasoning and problem solving capabilities
For example small llama3 8B model getting perfect scores on math tests (something LLMs absolutely suck at normally) and beating GPT4 thanks to a new training method borrowed from AlphaGo
Basically self play/self refinement
https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.07394
regal pecan
Just like the term AI, I'm sure "AGI" will be diluted to meaninglessness by the time it's in common use
broken sigil
well AGI is not this magical being that does everything perfect
AGI is supposed to be human level intelligence and an average humans sucks at programming ||and thinking it seems sometimes, especially on certain social media comment sections ||
ASI is this mythical super intelligence
the definition of what AGI is supposed to be isn't really defined super well either, by standards 10 years ago, gpt4 is AGI
By todays standards it's not
regal pecan
Ten years ago, AGI would've been today's ASI
...That's not as meaningful as I thought it would be.
broken sigil
The Turing test is also easily beaten by current leading models, so that became irrelevant too
GPT4 scores in the high 90% on the human eval
so 
regal pecan
I thought the turing test was too vague to truly implement.
broken sigil
isn't supposed to be really a real test either, yeah
like GPT4 today scores much higher than humans on many tests, but still screws up simple logic problems
It's pretty hard to define what is AGI because it's also super hard to define intelligence
regal pecan
Not sure Turing anticipated we'd be using 64 billion bits of data to beat the english language into oblivion in order to beat it, either.
broken sigil
one of those file names is not like the others 
lol
jesus christ, looking at code written by researchers makes me wanna die inside every single time... if you want to see some of the worst code known to man just look at any AI reseach project on github
I wonder who ever thought having python as the industry standard for reserach was a good idea
half of it is borderline unreadable
I especially love tracing scopes with my cursor to figure out which if matches what else statement
yeah I have no clue wtf is that
look like that's what you would usually use anonymous functions for
ok it looks like python doesn't care and you can have functions within functions
||one more reason to hate it||
broken sigil
😆
rare mauve
my city is in maximum stage water restrictions due to a massive water main break - outdoor water use 100% banned unless its your own rain water. just drove by some dumbass casually watering some nice plants they planted and bits of their lawn. do i report them y/n rockthevote
broken sigil
I thought it said more like "no. if you report them you'll join blah blah" that's how I read it 😆
rare mauve
that lady did look like the type who probably hoarded toilet paper 🤔
rare mauve
celest musk
my city is in maximum stage water restrictions due to a massive water main break...
isn't that for a while now? how long do they need to fix a damn pipe?
rare mauve
they inspected it while they had the chance and found 5 more spots that were about to blow 
it's just a 45+ yr old pipe, whodda thunk it might need some repairs soon
celest musk
brittle holly
it's just a 45+ yr old pipe, whodda thunk it might need some repairs soon
it's ok, QC used to do that with bridges
regal pecan
What happened to gaussian splatting?
regal pecan
Four people at the table. One has a geometrically diverse watch.
I think the far couple is eating potpourri out of a souffle dish.
pearl elk
is that how long it took you to hit the paywall?
errant raven
Yes
Most games are just stale shit that just repeats
Kill things, get coins, upgrade to kill stronger things, get coins, repeat
pearl elk
I like how the AK47 is considered an upgrade in some games
pearl elk
I'll just beat it with my Colt 1911 😛
errant raven
Hill climb racing still slaps tho
pearl elk
oh Ive played some of that one
errant raven
Moon level + dirt bike = infinite coin
Dirt bike gives a ton of air time so you get about 200-400k coins from air time alone, and dirt bike specializes in flips so front flips and back flips can give you 20-30k
Still cant reach the end of a map tho
empty dune
any idea how i can reduce this gigantic footprint?
because this is what it looks like right now
pearl elk
Is your max ingame larger than the actual texture itself?
empty dune
Is your max ingame larger than the actual texture itself?
yeah
this is a marketplace asset
just that fricking nebula
pearl elk
maybe try lowering the max ingame, dunno if that will change the resource size but Id assume so
empty dune
dont see a field for that
pearl elk
2048x2048*6 is still larger than 8192x4096
pearl elk
should do the trick, going to 1024 will make it more compressed
empty dune
yeah there's very little difference
cursive crypt
because this is what it looks like right now
cheezus fk
da hell is 4k cubemap of rgba floats doing ova there
empty dune
cheezus fk
da hell is 4k cubemap of rgba floats doing ova there
marketplace asset go brrrrrrrrr
pearl elk
why would you sell a 2K asset when you can sell a 4K one, even if theres no extra pixels 😛
empty dune
tbf i got this thing for like 10$ along with a bunch of other assets
doesnt seem to be ai nonsense either
just the out of box settings were godawful
eyy im back in my astronomy classes kek
empty dune
its very far away lol
empty dune
still running out of vram 😛
oh im on cinematic right now
i wanted to see if i could spot any differences in cinematic when i reduced the texture size
my laptop cannot handle lumen cinematic even on the basic ue5 map lmao
errant raven
Rainman
errant raven
my laptop cannot handle lumen cinematic even on the basic ue5 map lmao
Mine couldn't handle a mask pretending to be "light"
pearl elk
lmao
(yes i know those are not circles, shut)
I think your number is wrong, are you procedurally generating circle splines?
empty dune
I think your number is wrong, are you procedurally generating circle splines?
what number? also no
pearl elk
ahh cuz I tried to place them programatically and because my number was wrong they came out squarish
empty dune
yeah i didnt bother too much trying to make them circles, those lines are just for me
errant raven
lmao
(yes i know those are not circles, shut)
So this is what a offspring between a square and a circle would look like
empty dune
squarcle
pearl elk
//float Circle = 1.5;```Does that mean spongebobs dad cheated
empty dune
``` float Circle = 1.6568542494923801;
//float Circle = 1.5;```
lmao i used 1.5 too
pearl elk
lmao i used 1.5 too
I can recognize that squarcle anywhere
empty dune
your past haunts you eh?
errant raven
Those are planetary orbits
pearl elk
yeah but I did splines to avoid orbital decay
or the inverse which could be really problematic if my star systems are launching planets into the aether
errant raven
Orbital decay?
empty dune
yeah but I did splines to avoid orbital decay
im not using physics to spin my planets, those are done by good old timelines lmao
errant raven
That thing where satellites and space junk arent actually orbiting the planet. But slowly, very slowly falling towards it
pearl elk
yes using an orbital formula is closer to a simulation but less artistic controls
broken sigil
Orbital decay?
gradually decreasing distance between 2 orbits of orbiting bodies at their closest point
errant raven
Yes yea I know what that is, for once.
broken sigil
Yes yea I know what that is, for once.
the closest point? 
errant raven
Now you start talking computery geeky stuff and you lose me
pearl elk
I still need to do binary star and moon support though 😛
errant raven
the closest point? <:ShockedPiko:536714519926407168>
I'm at my closest point of giving up on trying to be happy
empty dune
I still need to do binary star and moon support though 😛
wow youre going for a full on galaxy? damn, i just have a single star sustem
*system
pearl elk
yeah I did a single star system but there wasnt really enough playable space for my liking
since some planets will be sort of duds which arnt playable because theyre too extreme
empty dune
ahhhh, youre landing on planets
errant raven
Make em less extreme
pearl elk
yeah my games RTS so you land and build bases on the surface
pearl elk
Sins of a Solar Empire 2... shudders
empty dune
yeah my games RTS so you land and build bases on the surface
now you HAVE to stream
if you dont ill find you
and delete your HDD
all 57 of them
errant raven
All 57?
pearl elk
I do have some ideas about space combat but I was leaving that as sort of DLC or sequel territory
errant raven
Even the one with the homework??
errant raven
Realistic space combat would be boring
All those "explosions" and not being able to hear them
Would suck
empty dune
realistically you wouldnt be able to hear anything because of the sheer noise a naval cannon will generate inside your own ship
errant raven
Did they buy a petabyte ssd and partition it 93 times or something?
pearl elk
I just collected all those old 64 and 128GB ssds from the dumpsters
I like fat raids and I cannot lie
errant raven
Well I like fat cigars
pearl elk
you wont hit anything with that knife because your reticle is a squarcle
pearl elk
well I do plan on streaming again friday, this time I'll probably do some dev stuff but it will most likely be weather and hazard system
maybe biomes, I dunno yet because they both interact
empty dune
they really need to stop making jedi look this weak
its the fucking worf effect
need to show how badass a character is so you have them dunk on other canonically strong characters all at once
just breaks immersion tbh
pearl elk
I think we are heading towards a Star Wars where everyone can identify as a Jedi
empty dune
oh god
"I identify as a jedi"
"Where's your force powers?"
"Did you just act like an ableist you shitbag????"
we really went from this
empty dune
https://tenor.com/view/acolyte-sith-osha-qimir-helmet-gif-11606473397974448644
to whatever the fuck this is
pearl elk
I must admit I was abit conflicted by the sword play in the prequels but it was done well enough I let it go. I was a fan of the slower more heavier style of the OG trilogy
soft night
pearl elk
Back in my day it took time to fly between planets in Star Wars
now everyones doing the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs
empty dune
it didnt take 16 parsecs?
pearl elk
cursive crypt
When light shurikens, maces or spears? Gets boring.
soft night
empty dune
When light shurikens, maces or spears? Gets boring.
light spears exist in sw canon, light shurikens also exist (i wish they didnt) and how do you smash something with light?
cursive crypt
With force.
pearl elk
light spears exist in sw canon, light shurikens also exist (i wish they didnt) a...
lightsabers can melt steel beams
empty dune
the death star was an inside job
soft night
raindust was inside job
empty dune
i chose the light side ending so........................yes?😂
pearl elk
what if sith dont have lightsabers... what if they have darksabers
soft night
what if there was mons sabers the more visious
empty dune
squarcle
soft night
there is lots of vibro weapons on star wars
cursive crypt
lewd
empty dune
34C and 94% humidity 🫠
cursive crypt
The end is nigh. Repent for your sins.
empty dune
im sorry i didnt use pi more
i am also sorry i didnt get to kick @summer cedar atleast once
anything else?
i think im good
cursive crypt
hmm... I think it is okay. Doom alarm snoozed.
Also, iirc, PIs are kinda expensive nowadays, heard there are cheaper alternatives.
celest musk
Also, iirc, PIs are kinda expensive nowadays, heard there are cheaper alternativ...
he was talking about π
empty dune
🥹
cursive crypt
This reminds me I have a cooled down watermelon in the fridge, brb.
soft night
some say there is whales what fall https://nautiluslive.org/blog/2024/06/20/evolution-whale-fall
proud jay
🥹
so hot they forgot how numbers work?
26C here today
29 wednesday
I don't like this
tulip orbit
same temps here. its hitting 26c inside my apartment... even after cooling it off at night
oh good, its gonna be slightly cooler this week, only going to 20c ish
carmine frigate
my city is in maximum stage water restrictions due to a massive water main break...
the water wars have started?
carmine frigate
This reminds me I have a cooled down watermelon in the fridge, brb.
you can put it in the freezer and have ice melon 🙂
tulip orbit
...to chuck at somebody
soft night
stay frosty the watermelon
empty dune
34C and 94% humidity 🫠
@proud jay numbers here
proud jay
but you're used to dying from a heatstroke in india
cursive crypt
Maybe it is too cold now.
north hedge
Anyone use Imgur? Lately I've been unable to upload videos, they just appear all black? I've tried different browsers and file formats.
soft night
blackcarp like that?
hollow dawn
very scottish pants +1 for scottishness
proud jay
https://tenor.com/view/contortion-flexible-yoga-gif-22292852
holy shit, doing that without hands is insane
pearl elk
im sorry i didnt use pi more
you dont have to use a whole pi only close to half of it 😛
empty dune
you dont have to use a whole pi only close to half of it 😛
Regardless im sorry i didn't use it more
The squarcle haunts me through this heatwave
unreal ether
I'm currently melting
pearl elk
@empty dune your fault
pearl elk
we had rain all through summer too, then a 5 month break and more rain
empty dune
I told ya how to fix
The Squarcle cannot be fixed, it can only be atoned for
proud jay
we had a ton of rain last few weeks
now suddenly it's gonna be 29C wednesday
I miss the rain
empty dune
Why is my bank telling me to get married?
empty dune
I miss the rain
Im right here
proud jay
Why is my bank telling me to get married?
they know about the bread lady
pearl elk
The Squarcle cannot be fixed, it can only be atoned for
you'll be out of toner before youre done
empty dune
Oh yeah, bread lady didn't work out lmao
empty dune
Apparently 😔
proud jay
just don't accidentally put a bun in the oven
pearl elk
youre telling us 😛
proud jay
well observed
pearl elk
I think I can avoid this situation by buying one of these bikes
proud jay
well I think, therefore I am
pearl elk
I know its a joke but Id like you to remove that or I'll report it
proud jay
what's the point in removing if you already read it
empty dune
I know its a joke but Id like you to remove that or I'll report it
Need support? Ill assist with a report too!
pearl elk
Need support? Ill assist with a report too!
All good, obviously just someones feeling insecure
empty dune
How the fuck do i compress textures using oodle? I was searching the net about reducing texture footprint and it mentioned something about oodle but i cant find anymore information on it
empty dune
very secure according to missty
Who's misty
proud jay
you don't want to know
pearl elk
Yeah thats what I was thinking, you choose the compression format in the texture editor. If its not there maybe its a plugin you need to enable
empty dune
I hate how unusable search engines have become because of ai
Like the answer could be giving obvious but you'd never find it
pearl elk
nah search engines were pretty crap before that too 😛
empty dune
Hmm, the disk size is already quite small, its the memory footprint that's concerning
Wait ill get a picture
disk size
memory size
oooh
pearl elk
you disabled all the mipmaps?
empty dune
you disabled all the mipmaps?
yeah, any mipmap setting is producing weird artifacts when swinging the camera
this is more than enough, thank you
pearl elk
you need a texture size of 1,365.3333333333333333 x 1,365.3333333333333333 for it to be 8192/6
lol you know theres a drop down in the top left right?
I dont think search engines have properly cached the new site
pearl elk
Im gonna start using 8 sided cubemaps
celest musk
i think there was a hard limit of 512 for cubemaps before a specific release
maybe they didn't optimize it because unreal forced a lower setting anyways
empty dune
hmm, that makes me wonder if i can get away with a 1024 cube map
time to test
hmm yeah there's a noticeable difference
celest musk
e.g.: Due to DX11 hardware limitations, the cubemaps used to capture the level are all 128 on each side
empty dune
RIP
celest musk
which would explain the 512, if you unfold a cube you get smth like 4 faces in a row
and 2 facing in the other direction
isn't there also a setting to reduce the encoding quality?
pearl elk
hmm yeah there's a noticeable difference
trust me use 1,365.3333333333333333 x 1,365.3333333333333333 lol
celest musk
which on a space cubemap with lots of black and some colored dots might work well
celest musk
dont
celest musk
what's even your concern? are you really trying to save like 20MB for the sake of it?
pearl elk
its the only way to get 8192 to stretch across 6 faces evenly
empty dune
what's even your concern? are you really trying to save like 20MB for the sake o...
its not 20 mb, its 400
pearl elk
do you really need the texture alpha?
empty dune
do you really need the texture alpha?
yes
celest musk
thats not the texture
celest musk
how
empty dune
im trying to save vram
celest musk
is oodle active?
empty dune
is oodle active?
i think so
proud jay
and what's wrong with mips
empty dune
and what's wrong with mips
blurring of patches during swinging the camera
celest musk
your format is the problem
empty dune
hmm i need the alpha though
empty dune
your format is the problem
explain
proud jay
blurring of patches during swinging the camera
like lerping between mip levels?
empty dune
like lerping between mip levels?
there's a lerp between the two textures of the stars and the nebula, yes
empty dune
okay
pearl elk
11mb 😛
empty dune
hmmmm, it became very noisy
celest musk
what are the other settings set to?
empty dune
ill send wait
pearl elk
could add the resolution back, see if it helps
celest musk
the whole compression category
play with the settings
but i think that texture should be 25mb max
at 8k x 4k
empty dune
empty dune
okay, trying
celest musk
then start to test different settings for lossy compression amount
compression settings is still smth else
HDR
empty dune
max texture size 0
....
celest musk
for what do you need HDR?
celest musk
SET COMPRESSION SETTINGS to something else
HDR is pretty much raw float data
probably higher range than your source texture 😄
empty dune
i dont know what else to save it to, i tried directx11 compression, it became noisy 😭
pearl elk
maybe it is actually EXR import
empty dune
like really noisy
celest musk
because you haven't played with the compression settings i guess
empty dune
thats true yes, i dont know much about compression
pearl elk
Im still winning with 200MB 😛
empty dune
Im still winning with 200MB 😛
yep, im gonna try your 1366 next
empty dune
im so confused
celest musk
start with that and DXT1/5
pearl elk
thats not how its meant to look?
empty dune
thats not how its meant to look?
no
empty dune
im trying 1366
empty dune
hmm, itll only allow powers of two lol
pearl elk
hmm, itll only allow powers of two lol
even though a cubemap has 6 sides which isnt a power of 2 😛
celest musk
in file path => source file
what was the format of the file they used to import it?
empty dune
thanks guys
empty dune
in file path => source file
what was the format of the file they used to import ...
checking
celest musk
idk it's space, i bet he just has a lot of dust on his screen, and tells us the texture is noisy
empty dune
trying
empty dune
idk it's space, i bet he just has a lot of dust on his screen, and tells us the ...
there is a lot of dust on my screen but i also have a duster XD
proud jay
what did he win
empty dune
celest musk
the handholding contest
he could have tried on their own after pointing out that the format is the issue xD
pearl elk
if thats at my suggested res Im taking some of the credit 😛
proud jay
rain can use some hand holding after bread lady abandoned him
empty dune
he could have tried on their own after pointing out that the format is the issue...
teamwork is dreamwork
pearl elk
we succeed when ponkkis succeeds
empty dune
if thats at my suggested res Im taking some of the credit 😛
it is at your suggested 2048 res, yes lol
proud jay
Oo
proud jay
but how would his game ever run on a pregnancy test then
pearl elk
1GB patch cuz I changed 1 pixel
proud jay
empty dune
wheeeeeee
next up the cloud gets it🔪
celest musk
how much was that asset?
pearl elk
wheeeeeee
next up the cloud gets it🔪
now youre obligated to make a YT tutorial
proud jay
so, when do you think is a proper time to buy a bass guitar
celest musk
so, when do you think is a proper time to buy a bass guitar
yes
empty dune
how much was that asset?
10$, on a sale. also got a bunch of other stuff with it
pearl elk
least you got a HDR asset
celest musk
what other stuff? few gigabyte of gravel textures?
empty dune
now youre obligated to make a YT tutorial
lol funny thing, mom was just telling me yesterday i should make a youtube channel to make tutorials for the solutions ive found to different problems
empty dune
what other stuff? few gigabyte of gravel textures?
6 other nebulas
and 2 star fields
plus some neat material functions
pearl elk
lol funny thing, mom was just telling me yesterday i should make a youtube chann...
mother knows best
proud jay
what other stuff? few gigabyte of gravel textures?
bread
pearl elk
if I gotta stream you gotta tutorialise
celest musk
should probably be the other way around
celest musk
that didn't age well
pearl elk
proud jay
pwetty cwouds
this is like a world climate map, but with a strange hue
empty dune
this is like a world climate map, but with a strange hue
ikr, i found it funny
@pearl elk lol
pearl elk
Stop trying to run it on a toaster
empty dune
my laptop canNOT run ue5 cinematic XD
proud jay
<@156366027322687488> lol
the doctor to your parents when you were born
empty dune
me 10 years from now
empty dune
embracer group after buying 17 different studios
pearl elk
all I can think is atleast all these people use UE\
imagine not using it if this is how bad it is using it 😛
empty dune
@summer cedar i made 3 planets so far lol
pearl elk
your rocky planets look better than mine 😦
unreal ether
Me in this heatwave
empty dune
your rocky planets look better than mine 😦
each planet took like 30 min to make
pearl elk
its not mine, might be someone elses
empty dune
no, just random planets
unreal ether
Those are just marbles that you photoscanned, don't lie
unreal ether
Are the planets purely visual or do we get to go No Man's Sky
empty dune
Are the planets purely visual or do we get to go No Man's Sky
purely visual for now, im thinking about no man's skying them at some point though
pearl elk
oh wow, thats a big job... what game was it I played where the clouds were the loading screen
oh right Hellblade 2
proud jay
isn't the whole game a loading screen
pearl elk
but what happens on planets with no clouds 😮
empty dune
oh wow, thats a big job... what game was it I played where the clouds were the l...
yeah its not anywhere near the roadmap for now, im thinking post launch IF this game turns out to be worth supporting long term
pearl elk
Im not even gonna bother with that sort of thing, Im doing what Anno 2070 did and having a loading bar
summer cedar
<@595262016059605022> i made 3 planets so far lol
I hereby dub the blue planet Raffire, the sandstone planet Randstone, and the martian planet Rardust.
Now, show ship.
proud jay
Why not Zipdust
summer cedar
Why not Zipdust
Because that's for whichever user's name begins with a Z.
proud jay
Because that's for whichever user's name begins with a Z.
Who would that be
summer cedar
Who would that be
At this point, some dude named Zieter Dack.
🤔 Who am I thinking of?
summer cedar
definitely not; this name sounds like one of those bad bread making peoples.
probably your dad.
why was he bad at making bread?
summer cedar
Of course you would; LLM bias.
empty dune
Now, show ship.
Im not working on ships right now, you'll get an ocean planet next
summer cedar
Im not working on ships right now, you'll get an ocean planet next
As long as it's an ocean planet ship.
Make it so.
Please explain this work of art, word by word, in 10,000 words and more.
edgy elm
I am considering quitting gamedev and making milkshakes (temporarily)
I need a get-rich-quick scheme
If I make 4$ per milkshake, and I sell 10 per hour, 10 hours a day; I can make 400$ a day
proud jay
did an electrical engineer code this?
proud jay
If I make 4$ per milkshake, and I sell 10 per hour, 10 hours a day; I can make 4...
that's a lot of ifs
and that's pre tax
if I find a 100 euro bill every hour for 8 hours a day, that's 800 euros a day
edgy elm
and that's pre tax
taxes ffff
I think milkshakes are poggers; there's no pleace near me that sells them, I know cuz I always want them. Some places do but always as a secondary thing
summer cedar
If you are determined, go for it.
You never know how it'll turn out and what you'll learn.
unborn lotus
Also ask yourself if it will bring all the boys to the yard
proud jay
I think milkshakes are poggers; there's no pleace near me that sells them, I kno...
maybe there's a reason there are no milkshake places
namely that maybe you can't survive in your area on milkshakes only
edgy elm
namely that maybe you can't survive in your area on milkshakes only
that's a good point
celest musk
I think milkshakes are poggers; there's no pleace near me that sells them, I kno...
guess why they do it as secondary thing
it doesn't pay their bills
edgy elm
NOW I WANNA TRY IT EVEN MORE -there'ssmthwrongwithme...
celest musk
goes well with the idea to make an MMORPG
edgy elm
What would be a good name for a milkshake place though?
celest musk
Pogger Shakes
edgy elm
Pogger Shakes
U KNOW ME
celest musk
ask chat gpt
i just did read your last 5 sentences
if that's enough to know you...
unreal ether
I mean I support any milkshake related pursuit, milkshakes are awesome
proud jay
What would be a good name for a milkshake place though?
Nova's Big Ol' Milkers
or Shake It Off
edgy elm
Nova's Big Ol' Milkers
now we talkin'
unreal ether
You'd have to do more though. Milkshakes, Waffles, Ice Cream.
Go all out with sugar overload.
edgy elm
Nova's Big Ol' Milkers
bro imagine the ballzs u'd need to have to name it that LOL
unreal ether
Damn even just talking about a shop like that would send someone with diabetes into a coma
proud jay
comabetes
celest musk
think of the benefits for the economy, it would create jobs for doctors and nurses, too
unreal ether
Buy any 2 waffles and a milkshake, get a free insulin pump
celest musk
insulin shot
proud jay
Buy a milkshake, get shot
celest musk
the pump is free if you get the milkshake subscription
unreal ether
I would say "true, can't give out to much" but even an insulin shot in the US is like several hundred dollars.
unreal ether
Buy a milkshake, get shot
The american way 🇺🇸
edgy elm
I would say "true, can't give out to much" but even an insulin shot in the US is...
tru that'd be a steal
unreal ether
Scratch that, milkshake shop and gun store
unreal ether
tru that'd be a steal
At least people wouldn't have to go to canada just to not die anymore
There's actually a milkshake shop near me I've been meaning to try. I just can't bring myself to spend £6 on some ice cream that's been blended with milk
edgy elm
There's actually a milkshake shop near me I've been meaning to try. I just can't...
I KNOW RIGHT! It's such a steal.. .wait I don't think I know what 'steal' means in this context
empty dune
As long as it's an ocean planet ship.
edgy elm
I just used it in both senses, but uhm yeah, they are like so overpriced it's awesome
empty dune
thank you!
unreal ether
Planet looks a little too familiar. Launch it into the sun.
empty dune
Planet looks a little too familiar. Launch it into the sun.
familiar? how?
like did i use the same texture again
?
empty dune
ohh
empty dune
<@595262016059605022> i made 3 planets so far lol
@edgy elm here, the previous 3 i made
celest musk
wait am I dumb?
because of the milkshake thing? maybe
edgy elm
Off I go shopping to write down in a notebook what everything costs BYE
celest musk
that's not how it works
unreal ether
If you're supplying ingredients from a supermarket you're doing it wrong
You go to the suppliers
celest musk
you buy milk from the cow
lofty lark
You buy the cow
celest musk
bananas from the tree
unreal ether
what does the cow do with the money?
lofty lark
You buy the tree
proud jay
and then you do a kickstarter for 460k for an MMORPG to fund your milky ventures
lofty lark
I feel like a portion of the MMORPG fan base has a different interpretation of milky venture
empty dune
Still not a ship though.
Im not working on ships for a few days, hold your breath
celest musk
that idea doesn't even sound too dumb to begin with
and it's probably something to considerate
lofty lark
Im not working on ships for a few days, hold your breath
How'd the whole graph ship building stuff go
proud jay
milkshake dropshipping
celest musk
How'd the whole graph ship building stuff go
he spent 3 hours to change the compression settings of his texture
celest musk
then it's still early WIP
summer cedar
Im not working on ships for a few days, hold your breath
No.
I will breathe.
Qi mastery requires breathing.
empty dune
How'd the whole graph ship building stuff go
Its.... Frustrating. So i started making actual art
unreal ether
lets see it then
empty dune
You just did
cursive crypt
Don't. It's a trap.
empty dune
Yes but these are visuals only
Eye candy
Set dressing
Maybe something to use to blow up someone's vram
So, art
cursive crypt
We are devs, we blow up other ppl's vram. And ram.
fleet tangle
Don't forget the am.
cursive crypt
Uploading new game on Steam. CPU DeSTRoYAaaa!
empty dune
I hope you all know i expect 200 hour negative reviews from every single one of you
unreal ether
Also gonna tick the "Product Received for Free" box even though I didn't
Also gonna become an IGN journalist and document the game while being ass at it
The halo infinite clips still make me laugh
proud jay
I hope you all know i expect 200 hour negative reviews from every single one of ...
if only there was a game to play
proud jay
No way in hell I am fighting that bear.
you doing dlc?
summer cedar
you doing dlc?
Nah. I didn't buy it.... yet.
unreal ether
No way in hell I am fighting that bear.
it's a friend, go say hi
lofty lark
He's bear handed, has no weapons! You'll be fine!
fleet tangle
Unbearably friendly.
empty dune
if only there was a game to play
There is, it just looks like ass
Like i said, you can passably play the game but it looks so atrocious i cant bring myself to show anyone
summer cedar
Don't be embarrassed to show us your bear.
fathom wadi
ooh err missus
empty dune
Bear in mind that the game really really looks ugly
fathom wadi
stop with the puns I cant bear it
empty dune
Like i cannot stress enough on that point
empty dune
stop with the puns I cant bear it
Sorry, was just getting my bearings
fathom wadi
that was out of order. It offends my moral bear-ometer
vernal jay
@analog marten git status
unreal ether
Bear in mind that the game *really really looks ugly*
I mean you're essentially piloting a junkyard ship, I don't expect it to be Gucci
analog marten
<@469217472273317908> git status
cursive crypt
Nerd Musk
empty dune
Hmm i need to buy some gas giant textures
fleet tangle
The size and scale of space is genuinely scary.
summer cedar
The size and scale of space is genuinely scary.
feels spacious, doesn't it?
fleet tangle
The best one ends with "your mum"
fathom wadi
I always feel weirded out by the fact the scale of space is persistently changing.
summer cedar
It'll be fine. Just remind your players that there was the Black Plague in those medieval times.
This is the digital version, that's all.
We should all have glowy holy lights to clear our way ahead.
No worries. I'll hide behind black screen.
summer cedar
I am playing a melee build this time. 🙂
But, I did exactly that with my magic build. 😄
Poor Torrent had to run around SO MUCH.
Oh, look! I now have fancy golden knight's halberd.
How will I wear the ring, if the helmet is so big?
proud jay
finger but hole
summer cedar
This is the Elden Ring. It has to be put on a suitably elder body part.
That's surely the head, since that's where all the white hair is. Very elderly like.
You've got to get this stuff right, bro.
errant raven
Skyrim looks different when you have a ton of mods installed
broken sigil
😆
Anwering the same question who knows how many times lol
errant raven
Dumb asses
I could never be that tolerant
@trail ore @zinc matrix is that DLC too difficult or are new olayers over reacting once again
Sounds normal
Over reacting it is
Everything that person said is a them problem. Not the game itself
2024 and people still dont have self accountability
broken sigil
A man of culture I see 🤣
errant raven
Yassss, asmondgolds reaction to her fighting ceaseless discharge was amazing
broken sigil
You say that while I'm listening to this right now while working lol
broken sigil
yeah it's a bunch of "he/she said this/that"
Ex twitch employee pointing fingers without proof
errant raven
Makes me think it was them just banning him because he was about to make a deal with other streaming platform
broken sigil
which emily?
broken sigil
oh yeah, she has funny streams
Tho I don't really watch streams, I watch what they end up posting to YT
errant raven
Tried to watch some stardew valley ones, actually, I stopped watching anyone play stardew valley ngl. I hate that minmax/manipulating the game with footsteps and digging shit
broken sigil
The only stream I occasionally try to catch live is smii7y's streams and his group
It's the dumb type of humor I like lol
errant raven
There was one female I watched who supported men's rights and shit like that. Turned out she was just using that to sell her onlyfans
Vtubers might just be men disguised a woman
errant raven
The only stream I occasionally try to catch live is smii7y's streams and his gro...
Man after my heart
What you said sounds normal
Why must people over react
I was generally excited for difficulty in the 2013+ meme levels
Turns out to be a bunch of hooplah
If they get mad at video games so easily, I'd hate to be their future husband/wife.
God bless them if they have kids
Cant be honest with yourself when it comes to something as simple as a video game, imagine what they're gonna blame on actual people they're around alot
Get nitro
Size is limited to 8mb, pretty sure its unlimited if you have nitro. Or fairly much larger
You still get upload perks of nitro even if you dont have it if the server you're uploading to has boost level 3
I think
Discord changed so much in a week, for the past 7 months I don't think I know anything about discord anymore
Discord.py just got a update too, I'm sure it broke all my commands and shit
I hope I have 53 spare megabytes
I infact do not
I'm now in a situation where a video worth 53 megabytes is downloaded, but hidden, so now I cannot delete it. Because i dont have enough storage for it to actually show up
4 videos in download folder, only 3 show up. 😭
I just wanted to see the awesome elden ring clip
This is what one of the peppers I'm gonna grow next year looks like. It was one of the mystery seeds the seller provided
Yeah, I did watch a video about this pepper before and its susceptible to blossom end rot more than others
Wasnt gonna grow it at all, but since it came I might as well. I just wanted habanero variants, couldn't find any except chocolate ones, so I got 8 other kinds + 4 free bonus gift peppers
2 of the 4 were other peppers I did want tho. Ghost pepper and khangstarr lemon starburst 🙏 cant wait till mid December
Yes, if I manage to get this $120 grow light
I'll be able to start 25-50 plants early
If not I'll have to get this $70 grow light and only start 25
I doubt I'll get either
My calendar is useless
I have been using it, just havent been USING it
Switched to google sheets
It's got two fucking names wtf
App store calls it google sheets but when you launch it the launch splash screen calls it google workspace
zinc matrix
I'm playing borderlands goty edition. In some aspects it's better than Rage 2
errant raven
@broken sigil
Humans apparently dont have a neural network
How many gpus does your ai use
broken sigil
How many gpus does your ai use
runs on a 4090
errant raven
It's amazing how you managed to cut down hundreds of gpus to get your ai to run on just ONE
broken sigil
It's amazing how you managed to cut down hundreds of gpus to get your ai to run ...
it's based on llama3 8B, and that model competes with early version of GPT4 which is about 150X larger
errant raven
I dont know what llama3 8B is, but if it competes with chatgpt4 and a very large fraction less of resources, that is neat
Do they use gpus like the 4090 or those really large server box looking GPUs nvidia makes
broken sigil
Do they use gpus like the 4090 or those really large server box looking GPUs nvi...
those are very specialized GPUs, H100s, one costs 25k
errant raven
The hell are they for
broken sigil
for any massive computations, but they are being used a ton for AI primarily
a 4090 is actually not that far off performance wise, but it has 24GB of memory, that thing has 80GB
errant raven
Haha you yourself just had a memory buffer
broken sigil
🤣
errant raven
80GB of vram
No wonder their desktop GPUs dont have much vram anymore
Do you think that's pretty
You can almost see my house
There we go, better pics.
Thank god for google. I'd probably be one of the idiots who falls off and dies up there.
That flag is huge as hell btw, you can see it clears as day all the way down there from the river
broken sigil
where is that, pretty nice view
errant raven
North Carolina
It's about a 40 minute drive
We take that route everytime we go visit family. Which is like once to twice a week or so
broken sigil
I would take at least 50 photos there, would probably and up taking picture of bugs tho instead of the view 🤣
errant raven
That first pic has to be spring
No way in hell that woman is wearing a long sleeve in summer
I'm sure theres loads of bugs up there, personally never been to the top. Scared of heights
Plus it just looks like a giant manhood from below 💀
Why drive to the ocean when you have a beach at home
You see the mountain in the background? Guess what we named it.
broken sigil
no clue lol
errant raven
no clue lol
Just guess, it's pretty obvious.
empty dune
Just guess, it's pretty obvious.
mt small hills?
cursive crypt
Lake hills?
errant raven
Bald mountain. 😐
cursive crypt
wtf, that not obvious at all
errant raven
How, its bald
celest musk
errant raven
Literally every mountain here except that one has a bald spot
cursive crypt
where is the bald? You have just a cliff or two there, there are such mountains everywhere and bald is not their name
celest musk
your city must be named SmartyTown
errant raven
The thing is, that isnt a cliff
empty dune
guys this is murica, things not making sense is expected 🤣
errant raven
your city must be named SmartyTown
Nah the towns name is called lake lure
guess what the lake is called
😄
empty dune
big lake
errant raven
Its lake lure too
broken sigil
Bald mountain. 😐
it reminded me of something else but probably a good thing I didn't say it 😆
cursive crypt
The thing is, that isnt a cliff
Here, take some random mountain from around, now that a bald one and yeah - has rocks, no trees and etc. yet it is not named bald.
errant raven
Manhood rock?
errant raven
Here, take some random mountain from around, now that a bald one and yeah - has ...
But this one is
They added rumbling to it because of an earthquake
empty dune
But this one is
bruh thats filled with trees how is that bald
cursive crypt
I suppose it is an exception there. If you show that to someone from africa say, they will think it is the most green paradise ever.
empty dune
i mean tbf this is the same country that gave us "Rocky mountains"
and mississippi
or however thats spelled
cursive crypt
miss is sip pi
errant raven
Missessippy
cursive crypt
miss is sippin' 🤔
errant raven
Really makes em mad
errant raven
That's 4 vowels man, someone with a thicker accent than me could probably stretch it out to 8 or 9 vowels
See that damn Nader siren up on the hill in the distant, damn thing goes off alot in winter for nothin
Every Tuesday at 10am
When putin started throwing around nuke threats you didnt know if it was unconventional ww3, blizzard or 10am on Tuesday
cursive crypt
Every Tuesday at 10am
But why?
errant raven
Testing, in case a Nader or blizzard. Gotta make sure it works
empty dune
would be funny if a blizzard happened on tuesday at 10 am
cursive crypt
uuh, we test here too, but once in a year.
errant raven
Lucky
cursive crypt
What is Nader btw?
empty dune
tornado i think
cursive crypt
‘Nader vs tornado- why are people infantilizing this word?
Same reason people say "whatcha doin?" instead of "what are you doing?" - it requires a lot less effort. Pronounce "tornado" slowly and notice the amount of coordinated effort to articulate the lips, tongue and jaw. Now note the minimal effort needed to say "nader" or "nado".
I see.
errant raven
Weird way to call my accent lazy
Fuck you whoever ivy league congraduate who wrote that
empty dune
howdy pardner
errant raven
Flowey the flower is texan born and grown
Damn it wasnt severe weather alarms, it was nuclear threat alarms being tested
celest musk
it's the same
errant raven
What the hell was the siren that kept going off on Tuesdays??? Cus it said the tests were Wednesday and one time only
celest musk
in both cases you should grab some icecream and call it a day
errant raven
Now I'm confused, but if I learned anything from fallout 76, my area wont get torched.
cursive crypt
If they played that game. Try that russian one, was a remake of fallout 2
errant raven
The other siren was duke power, testing their alert sirens for flash floods by the lake
Started a 30 minute timer everytime for good measure
errant raven
it reminded me of something else but probably a good thing I didn't say it 😆
"Manhood" rock
cursive crypt
cockrock sounds better
errant raven
Thank you Obama, for making male genitalia a national monument
He saw that and legalized gay marriage real quick
Lord have mercy
I'm up at 3am still laughing at this damn rock. It's been 13 years
broken sigil
"Manhood" rock
that one... yeah I can see why it's called that 🤣
errant raven
Oh man
Apparently one of the devs for fortnite owns a lot of land in my county
It's actually Tim Sweeney himself. 😐
fluid bloom
it's year 2024 and browsers still don't use region time format settings on windows
errant raven
Thank you Tim, for protecting our town and forests from dollar general
Please give a little land for a buc-ees tho
errant raven
that one... yeah I can see why it's called that 🤣
A family owned that rock, then sold it to the state for 15 or 25 million usd. Then Obama made it a national monument
errant raven
How much you wanna bet that tim sweeney would've bought it instead
Its 996 acres, and a conservatory national park. That's right up there in his alley for why he buys land
broken sigil
@errant ravenI have some country for you 
https://youtu.be/GB9jFPUb7HA
errant raven
Jelly roll is about as country as someone from Miami Florida
broken sigil
metal/rock meets country (ish)
ngl I love the combo
errant raven
Unknown hinson
Granted most his music is satire comedy. So is the character unknown hinson. But it's still great to listen to for kicks
errant raven
<@516535029619490818>I have some country for you <:berk:1013540048785907743>
ht...
Country
COUNTRY
Jelly roll dont even have a slight southern accent 🤨
empty dune
@errant raven for the emperor
errant raven
How much did that cost
errant raven
Local nerd shop has some oldish warhammer sets
Some demonic looking figurines that arent actual demons
Or tyranids
empty dune
there's a massive sale going on in amazon for some reason
i saw like a bunch of sets on discount
blood angels, raven guard, custodes, chaos terminators, dreadnoughts
oh necrons
lots of necrons
errant raven
Probably because of the new shit they're doing to it so people think it's going woke and will probably lose alot of what made it enjoyable
empty dune
who cares, funny soldier go boom boom
