lounge

[deep egret]

Anyone here experienced in unreal netcode please DM

[lofty lark]

There's a whole channel dedicated to networking in unreal #multiplayer ...

Or you can cross-post in several channels I guess

[celest musk]

is that minecraft with shaders, or your project?

[celest musk]

wait what

they have a compiler which breaks their app apart and loads it in whatever chunk is necessary?

[queen isle]

"These shows are really ****ing expensive," one insider says, referring to both Summer Game Fest and the Game Awards. According to pricing details shared with me by multiple marketing professionals who requested anonymity, running a trailer during Summer Game Fest's main show this year cost $250,000 for one minute, $350,000 for one and a half minutes, $450,000 for two minutes, and $550,000 for two and a half minutes. They also say that last year's edition of the Game Awards featured the same pricing tiers.

Still cheaper than superbowl

[regal pecan]

I wonder how many companies still rely on in-house plugins for photoshop as a crutch.

[rare mauve]

holy god the water main that broke here was TWO METERS in diameter

[brittle holly]

That’s some nice photo realism Hojo, your game is coming along nicely

[rare mauve]

idk, i'll look that up later 😄 i have water here, i just am not allowed to shower lol

or wash dishes or or or

oh wait i guess that's all just "please try to limit indoor use" but i'll do my part

oh yeah they isolated it, it's just the neighborhood surrounding the break with a boil advisory. this city is a little bit yuge

[lofty lark]

New community swimming pool :D

[brittle holly]

I haven’t heard of this so it must be fake news 😛

[cursive crypt]

Your daily demotivation.

[errant raven]

@unborn lotus 1v1 me in cs2

You host

Callin me silver

[unborn lotus]

Ok

But there's probably a gigantic ping

Dont blame it on that after I win

[errant raven]

Lemme finnish this bum ass match on dust2

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-smile-happy-gif-12618427

[empty dune]

rush b

[errant raven]

That's what they did

[unborn lotus]

Ill dm you later, dont even have it installed

[empty dune]

excuses

[errant raven]

Scared of my faceit lvl 10 skills

[cursive crypt]

Let the cheater win

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-blight-batman-beyond-funny-narrow-it-down-gif-25176406

[unborn lotus]

I used to be LEM 😰

[errant raven]

I'm apparently silver fuckin 2 in cs2

Rank in csgo apparently dont matter

[empty dune]

pleb

[errant raven]

New game, unranked, I should be playing against LEMs until I lose 3 times

Then it should be mg, then nova, then silver if I lose too much

Idk what the fuck this shit is

[proud jay]

just accept that you're shit at the game

[unborn lotus]

So you are silver 😅

Dont worry Ill boost you

But Im probably also silver after so much time

[empty dune]

aaaand now you have an excuse when you lose

smort

[errant raven]

I'm unranked

But in getting matched against silvers in comp

And only 6ks in premier

They really really want you to climb up

[proud jay]

and still you fail to do so

[empty dune]

maybe he's vertically challenged

[errant raven]

Imma just play valorant if I'm gonna start from low ranks again

[proud jay]

can't you live with the fact that you're shit?

[errant raven]

Nah

[proud jay]

it's quite sad

even I who suck shit at shooters am gold

[empty dune]

why are you sucking shit dieter

[errant raven]

I cant help that its matching me against silvers

[empty dune]

are you a vacuum cleaner

[errant raven]

It isnt supposed to be, but it is

I am shitting on them

[proud jay]

yes

[proud jay]

can I suck it up?

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-vacuuming-slurpvacuum-briankik-gif-26319223

[proud jay]

I would marry that vacuum cleaner if I could

[empty dune]

i thought you werent available for marraige via discord

[proud jay]

well I said if I could

but I can't

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/soujiki-gif-11333918

[fluid bloom]

what would the legal status of a vacuum cleaner be?

[errant raven]

@unborn lotus ight I know that shits installed with your 600mb/s wifi connection

[regal pecan]

Incapable of consent to marry.

Although with an AI-enabled vacuum cleaner that may be debateable.

[cursive crypt]

When will be the marriage? I want to score on social platforms.

[soft night]

well spatial audio for you then? https://embody.co/pages/cyberpunk2077-signup

[proud jay]

humanity if janisku would take some basic english courses

[unborn lotus]

Yeah but also I got a job 😔

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-978532213316794273

[cursive crypt]

nah, that great part of the charm - our lounge man

[errant raven]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-22073495

You juggling excuses to not 1v1 me

[unborn lotus]

my mouse is also broken

don't have a good mousepad

my eyesight is not what it was

j/k i'll dm you

later

[errant raven]

Brother I am using a laptop. Pulling 40fps. With a mouse 5 times smaller than my hand

[unborn lotus]

cs is an eastern european game, you have no power there

[proud jay]

we can't all be unemployed americans playing games all day

[errant raven]

I'm not unemployed

I work on farm remember

[cursive crypt]

A pepper farm, from what I see here.

[unborn lotus]

soon a salt tears farm

[errant raven]

I'll be the owner of it

You the overworked underpaid worker

[unborn lotus]

I make more than 7 usd/hour though

Pls check your dm's and add me on steam

[proud jay]

was that your uncle's farm

or was that someone else

[fluid bloom]

farm life is nice

[proud jay]

I don't work in america, sorry

[fluid bloom]

smell of shit turns into smell of money quickly

[proud jay]

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-viralhog-snow-curious-smell-gif-20604734

[proud jay]

top view of the alphabet

[errant raven]

Added

[errant raven]

Uncles

I'm no slacker

But I shouldve been in bed 7 hours ago

[proud jay]

so you boast about being a future farm owner

but really you're just a nepo baby

[errant raven]

When did I boast about being a future farm owner

The salt tears farm?

Ain't that called an orphanage

[proud jay]

well saying it right before calling me an overworked underpaid worker might come across as boasting

[errant raven]

I was talking to hristew lol

Just some csgo shit talking

[proud jay]

silver tears

[errant raven]

Nuh uh

Unranked tears

Oh my fuckin pumpkin and cucumbers finally started to throw out flowers. Got some nice looking female ones, and a decent amount of male ones

[proud jay]

why do you have a pumpkin specifically for fucking?

that seems a bit degenerate

[unborn lotus]

It would be degenerate to have a non-specific one and use what you can grab

[unreal ether]

I'm on team "it's degenerative to have one"

[stoic helm]

Yo I need a good single player first person game 🚨🚨🚨(like Dishonored 2, rdr2, etc)

[unborn lotus]

Pretty sure rdr2 is third person

[proud jay]

Cyberpunk 2077

it's not garbage at all

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[empty dune]

hey let us know too about who won

[empty dune]

if youll allow me to use a slightly bad interpretation of QM, obey the pauli exclusion principle and stop being a degenerate 😂

[proud jay]

ok lol, after reading #generative-ai , now I'm very convinced that @stoic helm is a 14 year old

[empty dune]

diss them in front of them smh

[proud jay]

ok, let me edit

[empty dune]

whats this behind the back shit

there you go

[proud jay]

I mean he was here 30 min ago

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/teacher-school-learning-what-now-gif-12908609

[summer cedar]

Another one that shall pass like the wind; here today, gone today.
Tomorrow never dies.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/tinkerbell-tomorrowland-fairy-smile-gif-9331859

[stoic helm]

🤣🤣Dude you put way too much faith into "AI"... Which has done nothing productive but: threaten artists, political deepfakes, and make students stupider with doing the thinking for them💯💯

Btw regarding my thing... I asked gpt4 (abridged prompt) I have 3 sets veh, tripod+ disk, tank + ATV , cube + drone carrier. Which is the human and which is the martians.

It couldn't figure it out LMAO

Even a 🤡 like you would know the first set is martians, second is human, third is borg

[proud jay]

I don't put faith in AI lol

[stoic helm]

Soooo nothing

Fking industry dead with multiplayer shit

It's 2024 and no decent single player games 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦🤦

[proud jay]

you can ask anyone here, I'm actually close to an AI hater

[soft night]

dieter dont like crypto bros either

[proud jay]

facts

[unborn lotus]

I used to have to watch the movie instead of reading the book, kids these days are done in 3 seconds with AI

[stoic helm]

Btw buddy gpt4 memory is awful 💯💯💯

just 3 replies later, and it already forgot my initial prompt

[soft night]

hristew or watch ticktock with short ivdeos then longer dont have attention span for those

[proud jay]

idk why you're so convinced I'm trying to defend gpt4 lol

[stoic helm]

Y u calling me 14 when I'm saying things you don't like?

[proud jay]

it's not what you say

it's how you say it

[unborn lotus]

it's how you say it 💯💯💯

[proud jay]

I think you've demonstrated that plenty in the last 10 min

[stoic helm]

Sooo is that why you've not said anything of substance to this point?

[proud jay]

sure

[celest musk]

how can you dislike AI?

you can dislike how people use it, but "AI" is a great thing imho

[soft night]

the hype of this "AI" what isnt ai really more advanced algorythms is same level as crypto back in the day

[celest musk]

nah

crypto was/is just number crushing and a pyramid scheme

[soft night]

ben this is the same

[celest musk]

no?

[proud jay]

well in a way, LLM is also just crunching numbers

[empty dune]

Remember when there were many different approaches to ai and not just "let's see how we can stuff an llm to do something it was never designed to do"?

[celest musk]

no

[empty dune]

I feel like when people say ai bad, that's what they're referring to

[celest musk]

xD

i honestly don't know what you mean

do you mean before the vector models?

[proud jay]

no

ai is getting a bad name cause all companies are cramming it in their useless shit products that don't need it

[celest musk]

where it was more like a "find a matching response from known conversations" thing

[proud jay]

and people not understanding what an LLM does and is made for

[empty dune]

Now i have no idea what you're talking about

[celest musk]

it's made for AI Waifus ofc

therefor you will never understand it

because that's what Waifus do

[regal pecan]

You've sold me. I hate it now.

[soft night]

so soon it make blue woman? for blue man

[celest musk]

i mean chatbots from before LLM time

which had predefined responses

mainly used in "customer support"

[empty dune]

Oh that reminds me have you guys heard of that therapy ai bot that has now turned into ai girlfriend simulator?

[celest musk]

or how i would name it "fuck you, we don't care"

[empty dune]

Cant remember the name of it

[empty dune]

No i wasn't talking about that

[celest musk]

Deja 😛

[empty dune]

Lol

[regal pecan]

Calling them chatbots would really be stretching the definition

[celest musk]

[celest musk]

you overestimate some peoples intelligence

i made a bot of irc chatlogs, which randomly told random junk, and sometimes it was lucky to hit the spot

and people argued with it

[empty dune]

Found it, its called replika

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/dissapearing-ana-de-armas-blade-runner-blade-runner-2049-gif-8061448461988284985

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/pppoof-gif-18346599

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/bhartiyazoomersmirk-bladerunner-gif-26945381

[celest musk]

hey BM, you should sleep 😛

[broken sigil]

Gpt and llms to begin with don't have any memory

They are stateless by design
What you got in chatgpt is a few messages shoved into the context window (message history)

[celest musk]

but gpt3.5 has a pretty large context in my experience?!

or my tasks have been too easy, repetitive

16k apparently

i wonder if they filter what ends up in the context, to not clutter it up with useless informations

[broken sigil]

Yeah, the way memory is done with llms is by adding it into the context window

A primitive way is passing it a set number of previous messages or the modern way using RAGs (like I have for Deja) where relevant memories are fetched from storage and passed in as context

But the actual llm has 0 memory, it "sees" only what it has in the context window

[cursive crypt]

ai is a hoax

[celest musk]

yea i'm aware of that

[turbid spindle]

:question: is Deja blue man GF?
:8ball: You may rely on it.

[celest musk]

most local LLMs i used just have the character card as context, and the last x messages which fit onto that

[broken sigil]

Yeah, I have built that whole memory system for deja where it can recall unlimited number of memories and always fetch what's relevant

Selectivity choosing what Will end up in the context window

[soft night]

the sims 4 need to be updated as if not 10th you cant play most likely because of origin and need to your ea app

[empty dune]

All that tech and she still writes like a fanfiction author

[soft night]

blue man did you see news of audio for cyberpunk

blue man this https://embody.co/pages/cyberpunk2077-signup

[broken sigil]

Well Deja is pretty much just something I made to test the actual tech which is the memory system, I needed something to test it with so that ended up being Deja (Déjà vu)

Have some quite exciting tests happening soon in the coming days, so far the memory was running locally on my pc but it used 3rd party llms for the response

Now it's gonna entirely run locally with all local models so I can really properly push the memory system since I don't have to worry about api costs

[soft night]

blue man need those npu units

the raspberry pi have some ai kits

[celest musk]

i'm already bottlenecked by 12GB VRAM on an nvidia card, i don't wanna know what you can "achieve" on an RaspberryPi

[soft night]

jeff greezling did the video of it

some unsupported way with pcie lane on raspberry pi 5

[hollow dawn]

people run doom of bacteria... 1 frame a day or so... its a niche market but minimalism rocks kinda

[celest musk]

i think raspberrypi is a waste of money :/

[soft night]

here https://youtu.be/HgIMJbN0DS0?si=jdAfU8rl5o5Gvs5u

[broken sigil]

Not necessarily true, llms are transformer model, transformer is an extremely versatile model architecture used in pretty much all state of the art models now

Video gen, robotics, audio gen, llms, weather forecast models

Anything you can represent as a token, you can get a transformer to train on, actions, even genes and chemical compounds

Like a new protein for crispr created by an llm like model (transformer) surpassing the previously used one https://www.freethink.com/robots-ai/ai-designed-crispr

[hollow dawn]

oh those things... i wanted to try a rasperry to run my growtent vents and leds and shit XD

and i have zero clue bout it

build a raperry ai thing that perfectly nurtures my plants and ill give you monies

and many other people too

i presume

[celest musk]

that stuff exists for years already.... (without AI)

[hollow dawn]

not with ai that actually takes data and adapt

[celest musk]

you don't need AI to adapt

[broken sigil]

Companies slapping an llm on everything is giving machine learning a bad name

While actually important uses are getting overshadowed

[celest musk]

that's kinda simple math

[hollow dawn]

like each plant is different, diagnose plant, find resons for why, memorize those, apply remedies

[soft night]

blue man how many TOPS deja produce?

[proud jay]

big facts https://youtu.be/VFv_ifptcGY?t=55

[empty dune]

I know how many bottoms deja produces

[proud jay]

hey, that's what I said #lounge message

[hollow dawn]

cause like half of biology seems like random guesses to me atm... alot of stuff is still misunderstood but continuously observing and testing ai might get it

[fluid bloom]

I hope they had enough condoms for those 51 tops

[hollow dawn]

hoho, the german in me smirks

[broken sigil]

Well it runs on a 4090
So however much that is

[proud jay]

👉 you 🔨 just ❌ don't 🧠 understand 😂 🤣 🤡 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯

/s to be clear

[broken sigil]

I mean it's very true

I'm kinda glad most people have about 0 clue what llms actually are or else they would decide to riot against anything using the transformer architecture without understanding anything about it

[soft night]

some finns are organizing iglooconf summer edition

[proud jay]

isn't that just puddles of water then

[soft night]

i havent seen that event organized on real igloo

[hollow dawn]

well, easier to run computers in an igloo than a sauna

voxel engine devs know their game

[proud jay]

everyone already thinks all voxel games are just minecraft

why did he make it actually minecraft

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=8OZ2tAomUIc&si=y7RuSEW8uL_fL4AI

[proud jay]

I mean these are personalised ads

are you looking for something

[summer cedar]

I just used AI for some creative work and cross-checked whether or not the output was genuine; you know, without an original existing somewhere on the internet.

Turns out, the output was original. I am now intrigued as to how Co-Pilot came up with something new.

[proud jay]

I mean

that's what AI does no?

LLMs

[summer cedar]

Well, you get inundated with news about AIs copying stuff and ripping off others.

At some point, you begin to be cautious.

[proud jay]

well it gets "inspired" by other things

[summer cedar]

But, I am pleasantly surprised.

[proud jay]

as it uses existing things as training data

but its output should be something new

[summer cedar]

Yeah. I am a happy Co-Pilot user. 😄

[proud jay]

they add in their license that they're not liable for accidental licensing issues though

like if copilot suggests code that is close to something falling under license and you use it, you're on the hook for it

[summer cedar]

Right. I wanted to ensure that there were no duplicates.

Good stuff, good stuff.

[proud jay]

well, there is always a small chance that it's a copy of something

but just by coincidence

just like it's possible for both of us to write a short story and it being pretty much the same

[cursive crypt]

advanced pro

[proud jay]

well it's not copying

[cursive crypt]

Buy AI, become a professional, all chicks will be urs, unlimited money

[proud jay]

if you look at the mona lisa, and you draw the mona lisa again in your own style

it's not copying

[summer cedar]

Right. It's art.

[celest musk]

because it includes craft and effort

[summer cedar]

That being said, I was pleased to see no stories or books like what the AI advised me, on the internet.

Feels good

Let's eat some bread.

🍞

[proud jay]

I just did that

no

[summer cedar]

Sure.

☕

[proud jay]

only milk

[summer cedar]

We'll reduce your share of blackmarket troubleshooting profits by $5 per cup.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-mr-mime-falling-crash-gif-17916378

[summer cedar]

why? Ponkkis should drink all the coffee he can before climate change destroys it.

[proud jay]

coffee is also getting destroyed?

I though it was just cacao

[summer cedar]

Yeah, the plant. Production is down.

[proud jay]

time to go buy 5 tons of coffee beans

I mean, they can probably just make it in a lab instead

[summer cedar]

Your coffee is cancelled for buying meth.

[soft night]

coffee seeds to make

[blazing wolf]

People can switch to Mountain Dew

[summer cedar]

Well, there's always Civet Coffee.

Which I affectionately call poo coffee.

Or Poofee, if you want to be Trumpy.

This is better.

Poofee, made from Civet 💩 .

It's very expensive and some say tasty.

[proud jay]

there's this monkey shit coffee

kopi luwak

ah that is the civet thing

[blazing wolf]

I have this fantasy where underpaid coffee bean pickers pretended to drink it and said it was great in order to get some jerk plantation owner to actually drink it. Then he forbid his workers from using the civet poop beans and told them they had to use just plain beans from his crop

[proud jay]

apparently there is elephant shit coffee now too

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-lake-coffee-tree-forest-woods-gif-196339260784701093

[summer cedar]

No wonder coffee is a diuretic.

So much 💩 in it.

[summer cedar]

be nice. Elephant poo coffee is rightfully called wisdom coffee.

Also woffee.

[hollow dawn]

thats a screengrab from the video...
but if you have a gorgeous latina sister who is lonely... you can point em in ma direction of course

dude, just make your coffe with the water in my town, and you neither need to add poo nor coffee to get a brown soup

[summer cedar]

Or just drink the water.

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-water-cleaning-dirty-water-drinking-water-gif-12793966

[summer cedar]

That works too.

[hollow dawn]

damn tahts pretty clear water, ours is darker XD

it has so much nitrate that you dont even need to add fertilizer

theres so much lead in it you can run cars from the 60s on it

even the uranium content is enough to keep leaky belgian power plants topped up

[summer cedar]

Hey, you can grow crops from all over your body with that fertilizer.

Walking farm, counter climate change.

[hollow dawn]

foot shrooms ftw

[proud jay]

where the fuck in germany are you that the water is so shit lol

[proud jay]

I got 3 white brothers if you're interested in that

[hollow dawn]

not that far from the belgian border actually 😛

[proud jay]

my tapwater is good shit man

[hollow dawn]

u met em in prison?

[proud jay]

no

in my house

[summer cedar]

It's possible there's a burst main pipe, or a cracked one that's letting in dirt from the surroundings, over there.

[hollow dawn]

ye well, the piping in many places is still ass old lead piping... and those are slowly dissolving because of the shite water quality

[summer cedar]

That'd do it, too.

[hollow dawn]

i mean... the drinking, tab water here comes from a resserve that sits shoulder to shoulder between the largest Bayer plant around aswell as europes largest or so aluminium plant...

[summer cedar]

Why don't they renovate the pipes?

[hollow dawn]

money

new buildings are being buildt with plastic or copper since a few years but noone has the bling to renovate all of germanies housing and public infrastructure... too much corruption etc

incompetence etc

and ya, its rly expensive to rip open all buildings and replace house tech

[summer cedar]

same ol', same ol'.

Interesting. They used plastic pipes in constructing our building's water supply, too.

[hollow dawn]

im not positive its really good thou to do that either, nor is copper... thats all material that gives off chemicals or metals or whatever over time, temp changes and through corrosive water, better than lead tho for sure lol

like whotf ever came up with lead piping was a dumb fuck

[proud jay]

I don't think they knew it was poisonous at the time

see: leaded fuel

[hollow dawn]

always have to think how outraged the americans were about the Flint water scandal...

thats normal here

[proud jay]

do you like live in a ghetto

[hollow dawn]

ye... and we wonder why they had all those mad ideas like detonating 70 nukes in the atmosphere to see what would happen

[hollow dawn]

if this would be monopoly, this would be a green road, not the blue, but def not the pink ones

but hey... my street is an "allee" a road lined by trees... just that our glorious council is chopping off all the trees to build environment friendly bicycle lanes now

cause that will solve the traffic jam of gasoline trucks

[proud jay]

so friendly that you cut down the environment

[hollow dawn]

neighbourhood has to try to protect a tree at least once a month, sometimes it works... its just rly much work to write letters and shit...

just a typical road... was like that for 5 yrs... old historic cobblestone dissappeared, worth a shit ton, and now we have a variety of cheap already broken stones that youd use on your gardenpath

[obsidian turret]

Do you guys think the release of a triple AAA game will overshadow my game release even tho it's another category?

[hollow dawn]

we have nice places too, this one however is being turned into a parking lot currently

[hollow dawn]

slightly, not for people who check your category, but general audience will be plastered with other category leaders and big new releases.
question is wether it makes sense to wait for a more opportune moment or if it simply is like that.

[proud jay]

bro do you live in central africa?

[unborn lotus]

I think your release will overshadow the AAA game

[proud jay]

no, cause your game doesn't stand a chance either way

I don't mean that in a negative way

but you will have 0% overlap in target audience pretty much

and organic marketing is close to 0 for small games

[obsidian turret]

total no sense

[obsidian turret]

I'm releasing this month but I think shadow of the erdtree will wreck those few sales I might get

whatever it is bro

[proud jay]

you mean nonsense?

as in you think your small no name game will all of a sudden gather an audience out of nowhere?

[obsidian turret]

seems like you're projecting

[proud jay]

I'm not lol

do you know how many games release every day

[obsidian turret]

main reason why indie games made lots of sales is because of becoming viral and nothing else

thanks to memes, social media and stuff

[proud jay]

well you still need that original critical mass, and be very lucky to go viral

if you have an indie game and no marketing, don't be surprised that it will have single digit sales over its lifetime

but you don't have to believe me on this

[empty dune]

He's not wrong though. To get on the steam "new and trending page" you need a minimum of 10 eligible reviews. Most games have a review rate of 3-5%. Even assuming you get your friends to buy and leave reviews, you'd still need to stay on that page. If you don't tell anyone about your game, nobody will know about it, its just simple logic. Relying on someone famous stumbling upon your game and then making it viral is just guaranteeing failure

Im not saying marketing will guarantee success, but no market WILL guarantee failure

[unreal ether]

Based on the same question you asked in #ue5-general, Vik is right too.
You've likely missed the point of going viral now. Releasing at the same time as a AAA game will be bad though, even with a vested interest. It's going to hurt no matter what.

I haven't forgotton when EA launched command and conquer again on steam, and it was 10 products in a day, drowning titles out of new and trending

I'm also not sure why you would ask a question and get offended at the given answers

[summer cedar]

Marketing is a whole slog by itself. If you have some wherewithal, it's better to use a marketing agency.

Otherwise, expect to spend most of your time post-release in marketing, and if possible, spend lots of time pre-release doing that too.

[unreal ether]

alternatively, bring pewdiepie to you whether he likes it or not. Infinite marketing

[proud jay]

send it to his child

[cursive crypt]

Skip the pleasantries. Send me your money.

[obsidian turret]

One thing is replying to my question, another thing is being negative and assuming a game will do 0 sales by default just because his game did

[unreal ether]

No one said that

It was said that it doesn't stand a chance against an anticipated AAA title, which is true

Even the popular ones struggle with that, read above about the EA thing

[obsidian turret]

I'm not offended, but I came to listen an opinion from reasonable people not from butthurts

[obsidian turret]

No doubt. but saying a game will make 0 sales is ridicolous and without doubts the fruit of a burning butt who didn't have success

[proud jay]

how am I butthurt lol

[cursive crypt]

You sit too long on a woden chair.

[proud jay]

I haven't even released a game under my own name

[unreal ether]

Everything stated here has just been factual though

• Releasing at the same time as a AAA as an indie is hard, it overshadows you
• Indie games have 0 organic marketing.
• They don't gather an audience out of nowhere
• The chance for virality is unlikely to occur in the next month, especially with an upcoming AAA release
• No marketing will often lead to single digit sales.

[proud jay]

of course I have 0 sales

[unreal ether]

no one said you will make no sales

"if you have an indie game and no marketing"

If you have marketing that doesn't apply surely

[empty dune]

From what i know, dieter works at a minimum AA studio. I can guarantee you he doesn't care either way lol

[unreal ether]

You'll still hurt from releasing at that time, you just won't have necessarily single digit sales

[summer cedar]

How do you feel about zero?

[unreal ether]

zero is a cool number

[summer cedar]

About its nature and deep meaning?

[unreal ether]

it's so cool it isn't even a number

[summer cedar]

It's a nice oval thing, isn't it?

[unreal ether]

0

very appealing

[proud jay]

very big fan of 0

[summer cedar]

It has so many implications.

[unreal ether]

It's the gentleman/woman's O

[proud jay]

and yet is also nothing

[empty dune]

Ill stick a fork in it and there's nothing you all can do

[summer cedar]

Pondering zero is pondering wholeness.

[fathom wadi]

I like to divide by zero and when I get an error I shout "It's zero you fool !"

[summer cedar]

O.O - This arrangement is also nice.

[unreal ether]

but how ycan you divide by that, that is nothing, non existant

[fathom wadi]

still second on the leaderboard too. git gud 😄

[proud jay]

just get the ball rolling

[cursive crypt]

And yet you still made some money.

[summer cedar]

Just sell poofee on the side.

Those drinkers can also buy your game.

[unreal ether]

if you divide by something non existant, is your divisor non existant? does it remain?

to divide by nothing is to make nothing something. And to make nothing something makes it not nothing

[summer cedar]

Also, if you did release a game, link please. 😄

[fathom wadi]

my games come with an optional DLC of a gram of cocaine. I've sold 1000x more DLCs than base games I dont know why

[cursive crypt]

It is 18+, go back.

[unreal ether]

You just paid Steam 30% 😭

[summer cedar]

Are you really dividing at that point, or are you simply refusing to acknowledge a state of prefection?

[obsidian turret]

As you can see is a long list of negative stuff I didn't ask

and that I already knew

[proud jay]

so you only want people to tell you positive things?

strange way to frame your question then

[obsidian turret]

I want people to reply to my question

[summer cedar]

I recommend just focusing on selling your game, if you're ready.
Get to it.

[proud jay]

it is literally a reply lol

but ok

[unreal ether]

That would be a good way to clear the bargin bin of movies.
Buy 10 movies, free gram of coke

[cursive crypt]

This is #lounge no answers, only memes

[obsidian turret]

Well. I'm busy now. Have a good life!

[unreal ether]

So if the answer to your question was "Yes it will impact and overshadow you, especially if you're not viral", and you already know that, why ask the question?

[empty dune]

Well this went nowhere

Just like 0

[summer cedar]

as usual then.

[empty dune]

Because i stuck a fork in it

[unreal ether]

full circle babyyyyy

[summer cedar]

all's good.

[unreal ether]

like 0

[summer cedar]

What goes around comes around.

like 0.

[proud jay]

hey guys, I just got a terminal illness, do you think it will affect my life expectancy? Only positive replies please /s

[unreal ether]

but does nothing go or come anywhere?

[cursive crypt]

Positively, yes.

[summer cedar]

Not really. But, you'll need an extreme tolerance towards needles.

[unreal ether]

even discussing nothing quantifies it thus violating it's very principle

[proud jay]

but how can 0 be a thing if it's no-thing

[summer cedar]

Wouldn't nothing truly be no, a thing when we discuss it, for it is no longer nothing?

[unreal ether]

how do we even know it's a thing

[summer cedar]

a zero has shape. surely things have shapes.

[proud jay]

because it goes skraaa, skibidi pom pom

[summer cedar]

not bong bong, ping pong?

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-mans-not-hot-dapaah-gif-9743871

[unreal ether]

what is a thing but an arbitrary definition from mankind.
what if everything is 0, what if nothing is real

[proud jay]

what if everything is unreal

major profits for Tim

[unreal ether]

explains why the core of the earth is so fiery hot

https://tenor.com/view/unreal-unreal-engine-computer-smoking-computer-smoking-gif-24575019

[summer cedar]

Hence the GAS.

[unreal ether]

The sun was just an earth-unreal but someone enabled lumen and disabled nanite with a 2million poly mesh

[summer cedar]

This is patently not true. Everyone knows the sun is a point light.

It was simply compiled with broken bloom.

no.

[unreal ether]

if everything is 0 and everything is nothing. then is nothing, and by extension everything perfect?

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-boy-child-hose-spray-gif-14370133

[summer cedar]

That is correct. But because you have forgotten zero, you project something on nothing and therefore, become imperfect.

[unreal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-25037715

[summer cedar]

The road to perfection is thus to reject something and become perfect, a zero. Thus, all lazy devs are enlightened beings.

[unreal ether]

see, even the gif shows a 0, ever expanding, consuming every-nothing in it's perfectly ovate void

[summer cedar]

But that man has rejected it, assuming it originates in his mind. Blasphemy!

[hollow dawn]

i tried to understand user behavior when i made tons of mods, was interesting...
average stuff gets like 1 in 1000 dls/view
average stuff gets like 1 comment in 10.000 dls

if you time it right, have decent userbase oriented marketing, produce quality and also end up on the top ten lists as the first... you stay there
dls will be like 1 in 2 pageviews, total dls in the millions, and youll have tons more comments, thou most will be bs tech support

you can prolly do x10 difficulty once you add a paywall there, even if its just 1 cent, once its there rather go for reasonable prices cause people will pay reasonably once they decide to pay anyway

if you do achieve the latter you dont even have to worry about streamers and social marketing much, it will just happen

...regarding the earlier discussion, not the one about zerooo 😛

[lofty lark]

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/helmaks-hose-water-gif-5962002

how's battlesector

[lofty lark]

It's cool

I get to kill xenos with space marines

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-wet-ocean-umbrella-failure-gif-12636066361967676780

[lofty lark]

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-that-it-looks-scary-help-cat-toilet-gif-15859049

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/jazzhands-archer-gif-5336650

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hands-chicken-weird-animal-college-rumor-gif-12407323

chickhands

[fleet tangle]

That's not disturbing

[proud jay]

is this cyriac

https://tenor.com/view/cows-gif-21885889

https://tenor.com/view/cyriak-cat-monster-walking-gif-13024512

https://tenor.com/view/amit-gif-8054924

[hollow dawn]

is this tinder?

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/cyriak-malfuction-pig-human-mutant-gif-21288440

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[proud jay]

how is your bread date doing

[blazing wolf]

OK. I'm regretting checking this channel now. 😄

[empty dune]

she knows too much about bread

i am hopelessly outmatched

[hollow dawn]

top five amongst my fav discord channels XD

[empty dune]

i have negotiated a temporary truce

[proud jay]

has she given you bread to taste yet

[hollow dawn]

have her help you make an UE breadbakingsim

[empty dune]

she lives in a different city so not yet lol

[hollow dawn]

ohhh that would be romantic af

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sharktopus-vs-whalewolf-battle-gif-14031627

[proud jay]

you better bake some bread and bring it to your first date

[hollow dawn]

except its a prezel, thatd be kinda awkward

[empty dune]

our good deed for the day done!

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-a-good-heart-kind-helpful-blessed-bless-your-soul-gif-15139990

[empty dune]

listen i dont want my first date with her to be an episode from masterchef lmao

she owns her own startup that sells bread

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-hercules-sad-emphasis-gif-5837016

[hollow dawn]

just make sure the kitchen is clean...

[proud jay]

like... a bakery?

that's a strange way to word it

[empty dune]

on a bigger scale from what i understood

[hollow dawn]

a startup that sells bread...

[proud jay]

grindset baker

[hollow dawn]

i hope it has a good whitepaper

raytraced?

[empty dune]

baked lighting

[hollow dawn]

badums

[proud jay]

explain

is she dropshipping bread?

[blazing wolf]

This bread is an LLMmmmmmmmmm!

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-6533142189269812111

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/drop-ship-gif-26353580

[proud jay]

I don't think scale makes you lose the term bakery

[hollow dawn]

hey... isnt sourdough actually ai controlled bread kinda?

[proud jay]

I mean like Lotus Bakeries didn't change their name

[empty dune]

okay fine a bakery

[proud jay]

I guess it would just be I since it's biological

[empty dune]

you really love your technicalities

[hollow dawn]

such nitpickering

[proud jay]

I just find it a very strange wording

startup that sells bread

[empty dune]

thats what she called it

[proud jay]

I need more details to know if this is acceptable

is she making the bread herself?

does she have employees?

[empty dune]

tell me more bread facts and i will be your informant

[proud jay]

is she outsourcing the baking and handling distribution?

did she ask you for a small investment of 10 billion rupees?

[hollow dawn]

is she a prince?

[empty dune]

excuse you, im not a girl

[hollow dawn]

see Dieter is now the most experienced relationship expert here, he knows the game

[tulip orbit]

damn VS is taking forever to compile this morning 😦 its awake as I am

[proud jay]

that's just usual VS

[tulip orbit]

is using a decent amount of disk, but very little CPU...

I only changed like two files, and hit F7 which AFIAK should only compile changed files

ok finally done. Had some errors

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-drop-gif-18832307

[marsh vector]

I can finally start getting into SLATE now

all my team project stuff is done and it's just my dissertation left

[fleet tangle]

Woo! Finally!

How did the team project go? Did they pull their finger out?

[empty dune]

did they what

[fleet tangle]

"stuck with their finger up their arse" or some such is an English idiom describing people who aren't doing things.

"Pulling their finger out" means leaving said state.

[empty dune]

i knew the first saying, not the second

anyone selling some motivation?

@lofty lark should have paid more attention in my graph theory classes 😭

[lofty lark]

Do you have it working now?

[empty dune]

nope

im still struggling with how to concisely store the data

[fleet tangle]

Write it on some paper.

[empty dune]

hmm good idea

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[lofty lark]

Like, how you would save it to disk? It's just another data structure, like arrays or queues.

In my head without knowing the application at all, I would imagine just a Graph member on whatever system is handling your ship building.

[empty dune]

no, like during runtime

[empty dune]

im remaking this specific component in a fresh project, once the port is complete ill show you

i decided its too risky to try to mess with whats already working

[cursive crypt]

insurance 💰

[tulip orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-lazy-tired-bored-depressed-gif-21112152

[empty dune]

this is not a small change though, i have to rework some of the systems and going back using version control incase something fails is more hassle than writing just that specific component again from scratch

[unreal ether]

people may say yes, don't trust them, it's drugs

https://tenor.com/view/drugs-are-bad-drugs-mkay-south-park-gif-4499796

[empty dune]

but but but

meth

how will i make my game without meth?

[unreal ether]

you've clearly shown you're really bad at it

[empty dune]

especially shader meth

[empty dune]

so i need to practice it by doing it more, yes yes?

[unreal ether]

why practice when you could give up and be sad

did you ever fix the cube btw?

[empty dune]

no, i just made 6 squares and glued them together

[unreal ether]

I would say that's thinking outside of the box but I guess it isn't by definition

[empty dune]

someone else gave me that idea lol

i dont remember who, i think it was demiturge

that cube gave me a solid 3 sleepless nights

[unreal ether]

Deja's early form

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/high-honor-deer-rdr2-high-honor-high-honor-arthur-morgan-gif-15559307536255721306

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/math-meme-math-is-math-meme-mr-incredible-the-incredibles-the-incredibles2-gif-20591317

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/science-gif-27088069

[unreal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cubefunk-cube-spin-animation-drawing-gif-22979313

[proud jay]

Is this your date’s startup @empty dune

[empty dune]

What the fuck😂

Im stealing that photo

[tulip orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074266

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/delivery-throw-damage-lazy-packet-gif-11406835

[cursive crypt]

No. How does the name relates to that?

[empty dune]

ei leen (I lean)

[cursive crypt]

Ye, lol, just figured it out. Kinda lazy to think.

[unborn lotus]

Dont they model it with symmetry on?

[cursive crypt]

The artist didn't knew about this feature.

[unreal ether]

It's called FedEx because your package is F'ed

[fleet tangle]

Reminds of that package containing a tv or monitor or something that was just thrown over a fence.

[cursive crypt]

Saw one today, dude was carrying it over his shoulder and just slammed the coffee machine on the gravel in front of the house.

[summer cedar]

It's time

Once more, THE FINAL STAND!

Can the forces of light withstand a horde of 20,000 demons?

Demons! Run for your lives!

[summer cedar]

Damn, lost with 700 monsters left.

Still, we took 24,300 with us to our graves.

[soft night]

windus check door 407 diplomacy is not on option game you may like it

[summer cedar]

I have it, but it's a bit too tough for me on normal and I don't like to play easy. 😄

[unborn lotus]

Nah I'll try to be free tomorrow morning

[proud jay]

guess you'll have to move to america first

can't be free™️ otherwise

[summer cedar]

Land of thaa Gunnn! 🎶
Hoomeeee of the Spray'n Praaayyyyy! 🎵

Time to investigate Wattpad and Scribble Hub.

[celest musk]

say goodbye to our lost friend windus

[summer cedar]

For two books - two separate production lines of possibly 100s of chapters.

[celest musk]

he's now investigating diaries of 14y olds

[summer cedar]

Hey! It's a legit criminal path.

I see a lot of copy+pasting in my future.

[proud jay]

should become a programmer

[summer cedar]

Royal Road, WebNovel, Wattpad, my website, Scribble Hub, and finally, Patreon.

I might have missed one... maybe.

That's why I have a mind map. 😄

[celest musk]

yea, don't get lost on your 6 steps plan

[summer cedar]

Seems like my mind and my map are still in sync. I didn't forget anything.

Now where are those 14 year old's Ben diaries?

scrounges Wattpad

[proud jay]

where's Ben's 14 year old diarrhoea?

[cursive crypt]

The idea is ppl not to get weird ideas.

[proud jay]

maybe you'd get jealous

[summer cedar]

supposedly in Wattpad.

I am getting around to it.

I was distracted by scrounging up the lyrics to a devotional song.

[queen isle]

Found this super old meme. Wonder if it's relevant today

There was a time comestics dlc used to cost 1 dollar.

But then inflation hit the video game universes

[summer cedar]

Just you wait.
When my game publishes, God Windus will be renowned for charging everyone $2 to click on New Game.

My standards will revolutionise the video game industry, unless God Todd beats me to it.

Of course, he can never steal my idea of charging $5 for Options.

[summer cedar]

le sigh
Going through every platform's copyright and content guidelines articles becomes tiresome after a while. But, it's unavoidable. Who knows what I'd end up posting without clear guidelines?!

[zinc matrix]

.... fu Crytek. Crysis 2 is stuck. After the tsunami the mission script won't allow me to continue.

the extraction point mission won't continue

[hollow dawn]

back to the most dopest recommendations

[median wraith]

the what

lock the FPS maybe ?

[errant raven]

He wont fight me

[median wraith]

weeekeeennnn

[zinc matrix]

...

now crysis 2 is completely black

no graphics, all black

[median wraith]

that means it drop the y, and is in crisis

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-game-fest-game-fest-play-the-future-e3-summer-game-fest2020-gif-17174485

[queen isle]

Bloodborne accounment?

[soft night]

the game fest stream started

[queen isle]

Lego horizon

Dedicated quddish game

[soft night]

harry potter the sport what is in that universe

[zinc matrix]

I know what happened, there is a DX10 dll included and using it caused the graphics to fail

[broken sigil]

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/shinj-mecha-gif-26172883

[queen isle]

Every time I see mecha break I think it's gundam

I can't believe I saw killer bean. I thought it was a fan game

[celest musk]

killer bean was one of the reasons that i've learned blender xD

[queen isle]

Among us devs are making a indie publisher company to fund other indie games

[broken sigil]

https://youtu.be/GB9jFPUb7HA

[queen isle]

That's how they are spending your money

[queen isle]

Are you good at blender?

[celest musk]

i get my stuff done, i'm not a great modeller tho

maybe average at best

do you think i would recall everything?

at some point they are muscle memory

and you just know what to press to get the result you want

cheated, never used that one tho

it's pretty far up in the main menu under object tho

so at least you got the proof that i'm using 2.7 or smth keybinds because i'm used to them 😄

alr 10 years ago

xD

considering how cursed it started xD

somehow i can't open large discord images today, wonder if that's only an issue on my end

looks good tho, is that cycles or eevee?

i used to learn daily, and i think my nvidia gpu broke and i couldn't afford a new one, and i guess then i started to learn java xD

[queen isle]

Is the valorant moment when people buy 70$ skin dlcs?

[broken sigil]

AW2 DLC tomorrow

[queen isle]

Jesus this is a long ass ad

I will make sure to never play this game

[celest musk]

damn i waited probably 1-2 hours for the dog render 10y ago

this was 2 minutes xD

and only like 100 samples, the denoiser really does well

i think the dog is hair and the grass particles with object instances

and the grass even was a fps limiter on my current machine 😄

i guess the speedup is only when you use their new strand system?

maybe my version is too old again xD (3.6)

[broken sigil]

It's out
Been looking forward to this game for a while

[celest musk]

HODL

i would wait for reviews

and ask deja for permission first

[broken sigil]

I watched some playtests a few days ago, it got my interest instantly 😅

[queen isle]

Worst part too sheesh.

What

[broken sigil]

4090
Got that covered at least

apparently there is dlss and fsr now

and this rate I will forget what I'm even downloading....

[brittle holly]

With your track record, it’s prly just an update for an already installed game 😀

[weary dagger]

Is this were all the cool people chill

[tulip orbit]

ponkkis and blueman are also here

[weary dagger]

Oh

Fair enough

[brittle holly]

Poor BM

[weary dagger]

It hurts most from the closest people

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-hearts-love-gif-27260107

[tulip orbit]

good thing I said it then.

I wouldnt know what cool was if it bit me on the ass

[weary dagger]

Ooh self deprecation

My sort of thing

If I hate environmental design

What do I do 🥺

[tulip orbit]

no environment, just floating around in nothingness

[weary dagger]

Yeah

That might be it

Everytime I load up the landscape tool my mind melts

And I don’t want to do it

[queen isle]

So summer game show.

Good or shit?

[bronze axle]

It was fine. A good diversity of games, but not much that interested me personally.

[queen isle]

That game was in there? I must have missed it lol

I think seeing among us made it worth it for me

Wukong game getting a release date makes me excited. It's first trailer really got me into unreal

[bronze axle]

Black Myth: Wukong does look impressive.

[zinc matrix]

4090 is going to lose value as soon as a new gen comes

[unreal ether]

it never does that much

Normally because Nvidia gets worse and worse at value for money with each generation

[brittle holly]

And because everyone tries to get the highest last gen so it becomes a rare commodity

[unreal ether]

no more supply, loads more demand

[cursive crypt]

Dang, the new civ7 is very recycled. It is nice to improve on a formula, but at some point it starts to turn in the next fifa game.

[brittle holly]

How many different ways can you really reiterate history

[rare mauve]

7+

[regal pecan]

As long as the money rolls in. You also don't want to do a great job or it will be that much harder to sell the next one.

[brittle holly]

Imagine coming up with new IPs

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-casey-sam-lake-max-payne-alan-wake-alan-wake-2-gif-10572869970944287398

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-alan-wake-2-night-springs-dlc-mr-door-gif-16796997716866335547

[errant raven]

Assassins creed enters chat

[cursive crypt]

hmm... I just threw an 8k words shit for a fix at gpt and it kinda started well, but then it degenerated. Shit returned.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/jackie-chan-police-story-phone-phone-call-telephone-gif-22252098

[summer cedar]

YES!

All it took was a few more defence towers and massed crossbows against the giants. 😄

[errant raven]

Hogwarts legacy's graphics look insane, botany looks fun.

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-magic-gif-15142740

[soft night]

the springs of night https://x.com/alanwake/status/1799218530698863028

Alan Wake 2 (@alanwake) on X

Step into the surreal and experience the world of Alan Wake as never before in… Night Springs.

Will you break free from the loop, or become another echo lost in the shadows?

The first Alan Wake 2 expansion is available June 8th, exclusive to the Deluxe Edition.

Twitter · Jun 7, 2024, 11:15 PM

[dense blade]

Anyone else locked out of their epic games account because of the security check?
Pressing the hamburger is apparently wrong

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-lake-dance-alan-wake-2-gif-11162997917074361994

[celest musk]

is that real? xDD

[dense blade]

Unfortunately...

[pearl elk]

Well that meat isnt even cooked

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/bigmac-mcdonalds-coyotemedia-gif-22467521

[pearl elk]

I had a Mega Jack the other day, its basically a proper Big Mac but from HJs and it was amazing 😮

https://tenor.com/view/burger-mike-monsters-inc-excited-hungry-gif-8448329

Australian pint 570 mL

South Australian pint 425 mL 😿

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/glass-red-wine-pour-wine-gif-15344601

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-great-beer-gif-13797808

https://www.tomshardware.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-projects/maker-recreates-classic-winamp-mp3-player-in-real-life-with-the-linamp-llamas-not-included

[queen isle]

This is starting to get more and more common, i am not against digital, but this trend is turning out more and more like veganism, they make vegan burgers and vegan dogs to make it looks like meat, and now devs are making physical games that are just digital codes that looks like physical games.

The true crime is being vegan

[thick oracle]

what?

[soft night]

hey blue man https://x.com/alanwake/status/1799456599905378332

Alan Wake 2 (@alanwake) on X

Alan Wake 2 gets physical.

Pre-order the Physical Deluxe and Limited Collector's Editions of Alan Wake 2 NOW! Collector's Edition brought to you by @LimitedRunGames and available worldwide.

🔦 https://t.co/cdooSUtPjd
🔦 https://t.co/rbEvMTi7Jz

Pre-orders are until July 21st!

Twitter · Jun 8, 2024, 3:01 PM

[broken sigil]

The collectors editions are only for consoles

I kinda wanna have the copy playable

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-alan-wake-2-night-springs-dlc-mr-door-gif-16796997716866335547

[brittle holly]

Who uses disks anymore anyways

[queen isle]

Selling physical game that only have a digital code is bad.

It's like ordering a burger and it's vegan meat

[celest musk]

vegan meat doesn't exist

[fleet tangle]

Vat grown meat would be vegan friendly, at least?

[celest musk]

i think most of them don't actually want a meat replacement

since they already replaced meat in their diet

[fleet tangle]

Depends why they're vegan in the first place.

If it's moral outrage, I'm sure they'd love some vat-grown meat.

[celest musk]

in my experience you just get used to it xD

so even if they wanted meat at the beginning, they may not want it anymore

[dense storm]

Wherew gta 6

😦

[cursive crypt]

After HalfLife 3

[tulip orbit]

its been delayed till after my game releases

[celest musk]

wasn't GTA 6 already delayed to late 2025?

tho we get this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87KtMnmZWzQ

[proud jay]

so youtuber Ludwig also started a game publishing company, as a spinoff of his event company

and the Pirate Software Thor guy is the leader of it lol

[broken sigil]

Alan Wake DLC

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-traitor-of-mars-starship-troopers-gifs-running-run-gif-9385398

https://tenor.com/view/night-springs-dlc-alan-wake-alan-wake-2-shawn-ashmore-gif-8864337248030313659

[brittle holly]

Oof

I can download at 50-70x that 😛

[queen isle]

The subreddit xboxseriesS and seriesX are shutting down to merge to r/Xbox

Not even subreddits can avoid miroscoft shitty naming scheme

[soft night]

helldivers2 was like it is starship treoopers then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcXMFn7M0yg

[queen isle]

Yeah I heard there was a star troopers game currently out that has has barely a few hundred players

Hell divers took the audience

[brittle holly]

Good

[queen isle]

"Black Myth: Wukong employs a classic one-time purchase model with a one-time payment. In the future, we may release DLCs and NON-PAY-TO-WIN in-game purchases. (Additionally, we encourage everyone to take a screenshot of this statement as our guarantee.)"

Why does a single player game need to assure us of non p2w dlc?

[brittle holly]

One-time payment at release and in the future we’ll introduce microtransactions lol

[white oxide]

they use this feature to monitor sex offenders...

like theres a company that exists solely to do this

and has been doing it for over a decade

cousin picked up a minor during a bar night at a 21+ club and has this stuff on his computer

[broken sigil]

my internet really plans on pissing me off today huh

I think it heard me

[zinc matrix]

finished crysis 2 remaster. Pretty nonsense plot and for some reason they ditched all the vehicles, making a very basic FPS game.

Crysis is still a game with one of the most realistic lightings ever.

[white oxide]

not Ai powered but its pretty intrusive

uses 30% of her CPU constantly and takes pictures every 20 seconds

also seems to sell the data cause stuff we said over discord is showing up in her ads

[rare mauve]

im just going to turn on windows recall and stop using source control, am i doing this right

[white oxide]

😂

[brittle holly]

That’s how the pros do it, I hear

[blazing wolf]

I wonder how long it will be before spyware starts enabling Recall on systems that have it turned off intentionally

[cursive crypt]

There are enuf pts of failure. From the local db, to the remote OCR, to whatever MS will harvest from it.

[copper lagoon]

that statement sounds like it was made in direct response to the garbage EFT devs have been doing recently.

[soft night]

well would you control the fog? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVwF4OG-H4

[cursive crypt]

science

[hollow dawn]

"spyware booboo"... i just got official forms sent back, cus my stamp was allegedly too cheap, which it wasnt, and the post office found out where to send the letter to by opening and reading my forms until they discovered my address... so ye... spyware... cool and all...

i remember how back in the ol days, we got xmas parcels from family in the west, and the customs dude would cut the xmas candles my aunt sent into slices to see if there were secret messages or drugs or somin inside...

and kids these days complain about slower porn downloads for surveillance shrug

ops, sry i replied in the wrong chnnael XD ...but yeah!

let me appease you with a picture of a nice cake i made

[fleet tangle]

Give

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hair-flip-starts-gif-26049461

[zinc matrix]

where can i get some online game design feedback

[hollow dawn]

lan parties?

[zinc matrix]

i am trying to make some online fighting game like tekken with some weird stuff in it

and im getting serious and started to have some people working with me

and i feel like online game design is such a cursed thing

no one really show how to do it

i should email gaben or something

[zinc matrix]

no it's more like online chess (in the term of how the multiplayer work, with the match matching and elo system)

[hollow dawn]

that was meant as a joke... lounge is more like the table with the grumpy elite comedians that convey only true wisdom, like an oracle of sorts, less like useful advise

[zinc matrix]

you will find advice in the most unexpected place

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-thomas-healy-wizard-gif-26558505

[hollow dawn]

like you can go to a teacher and learn a thing, or you can come to lounge and solve zen riddles until you understand the reason for existance

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sh2-silent-hill-2-fog-gif-1321460155140227201

[zinc matrix]

janisku have the same avatar for a whole year

[summer cedar]

Which font do you like? Vote with 1, 2, 3, OR 4.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/yanyulikenobio-gif-25599635

[median wraith]

So the last Godzilla is made in Blender

Blender master race finally

[summer cedar]

I imagine if anyone bothered to ask Godzilla, it'd demand royalties for all the movies it's been in and then retire to a place WITHOUT human contact.

[soft night]

some say next is Hevder the hevedy render engine

[summer cedar]

Hevilla?

If it's Hevilla, I am sure it can travel a very long distance easily. 😛

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-places-mountainess-structures-the-foot-of-the-mountain-lake-front-building-alien-planets-gif-20534853

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hadassa-allison-dessi-allison-dessi-siberian-laika-dog-runs-in-forest-barks-at-the-baba-yaga-gif-1928905257255725323

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/laputa-castle-in-the-sky-flying-castle-romantic-anime-gif-25407324

[tulip orbit]

wuh oh. building next door's fire alarm went off. last time it was apparently a stabbing and pulling the alarm was the only way the girl could call for help

[fleet tangle]

Sounds like a lovely place!

[tulip orbit]

yup

how to test damage formulas? not sure how I want to formulate my damage/defense calcs

[fleet tangle]

Spreadsheet?

[tulip orbit]

or maybe I'll just stick to Damage - defense to keep things simple...

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-dr-stone-senku-science-math-gif-14797363

[summer cedar]

Damage - defense - prayer defense - allied defense - adrenaline defense - drug defense - buff dmg negation. - is more appropriate.

[tulip orbit]

I can always change and add stats later if I decide to make it more complicated. But right now I'll keep it simple

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/motoboy-delivery-reparto-ubereats-empanadas-gif-16463175

the groundhogs formula race on montreal circuit

[pearl elk]

Those helmets are clearly not big enough

[summer cedar]

#lounge message - Those who haven't, remember to vote. 🙂

[fleet tangle]

I'd have thought the goddess of bread would look more... baked.

Lol

[unborn lotus]

Coincidentally, EU election day today

[summer cedar]

For everyone here who votes in it, I want a $1 royalty.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/election-results-loading-election2020-every-vote-counts-count-every-vote-gif-19063502

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/winners-homelander-ryan-the-boys-we-did-it-gif-11071839893612679273

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/mk1-mortal-kombat-1-omni-man-omni-man-mk1-omni-man-gif-5962910364590552768

☕ https://x.com/SamLakeRMD/status/1799802373860450660

Sam Lake (@SamLakeRMD) on X

Having a coffee in Los Angeles with the brilliant filmmaker Mike Flanagan. @flanaganfilm

Twitter · Jun 9, 2024, 1:54 PM

[queen isle]

i saw another indie climbing game at day of devs and thought it was Jusant nope its Cairn

[celest musk]

Dekogon vs. Laertes

idk what shit they smoke

Attention to Detail / AAA Quality

AAA my ass

[cursive crypt]

tbh, it aint so bad, is just more low poly and kinda neglected.

[celest musk]

no, there's tons of assets in this pack which are totally oversized

pretty much everything actually

[cursive crypt]

Ah, u talk about the scale.

[celest musk]

yea

[tulip orbit]

you're talking about the manny right?

[celest musk]

i'm talking about the 3m forklift

[cursive crypt]

If all are big, a script will do nice.

But yeah, is weird 🤔

I suppose their artists, I think they outsource, was working in freedom units or something.

[tulip orbit]

it looks pretty terrible (the one on the right)

[celest musk]

those are from the same pack

[cursive crypt]

Tell ya, artists has been working on feets/miles shit. If you downscale x3 it will fit prolly.

[unborn lotus]

I seme to recall some juicy scandal with leartes, but I forgot what it was about

[celest musk]

no, some are good at 0.5, others at 0.75

they don't pay their artists after 1st year or smth, yeah

which is why they got $1 from me on that asset bundle from humblebundle 😄

[cursive crypt]

Iunno then. Their assets are of varying quality in general. Each one is from different guy most of the times.

[celest musk]

i wouldn't buy anything from them, got a ton of packs and a lot of stuff is rushed or without attention to detail

most of their stuff looks only good on a distance

[unborn lotus]

Anyway this is why all my startup scenes have a 1.8m guy for size reference

[celest musk]

yea, manny is a good reference imho

roughly 1.80m

maybe a bit larger

[median wraith]

damm this spagetti

[fleet tangle]

It's like the cosmic web.

[median wraith]

this to make a tree it seems

[celest musk]

yes, i showed it to a tree and he approved that this is true

[fleet tangle]

And it's not a great tree...

[rare mauve]

spoiler alert: the left side is a node graph to generate the right side, the right side is a node graph too, just zoomed way out, the tree is yet to come

[summer cedar]

God only knows how many artists never bother to use size references, or even make their own with a simple Google search.

At least they didn't make a superpower in-game to reduce the size of assets. 😛

[median wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SsTk657Uw0&ab_channel=JoshuaMKerr wtf

[summer cedar]

Time to hunt him down for insulting Unreal. How dare he!? ✊ Raise the virtual pitchforks and march upon the YT channel! ✊

[median wraith]

actually is nice and strange at the same time

[pearl elk]

I run all my games in the pathtracer 😛

[rare mauve]

humans are finnicky creatures, we do not always like perfection

[median wraith]

yeah

seems like someone made the same on Blender

[celest musk]

blender

and sapling generator

[median wraith]

Vue seems to be the same from 15 years ago

that I feel myself like JJ M1Abrams doing a empty landscape and trees on top back in the day

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/goldy-גולדי-ארנון-שמן-gif-24791529

[median wraith]

Today is the trailer of the new COD it seems

[pearl elk]

Anon helped with the trailer

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/fucks-given-spongebob-genuis-book-reader-gif-13978555

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/boneatoapp-gif-10124846934009172976

[median wraith]

you don't like dinosaur skins ?

[summer cedar]

All Cod fish and soldier games will be on Game Pass, so MS has spoken.

🎆

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-punt-kick-donewiththis-gif-26537188

GamePass ⬆️

[cursive crypt]

Is Cod or BF better?

[pearl elk]

Betterfields

[cursive crypt]

Codfields 2042

[pearl elk]

Call of Dooty

[cursive crypt]

Cods of Duty

[pearl elk]

Battle of Cods

[summer cedar]

I think Call of Duty is better for the sheer variety of settings and higher production values.

Battlefield is fun, too but I think it got old for me very quickly after the first two games.

There is that CoD game set in space that was very good. I forget its name.

[cursive crypt]

Apex Halo of Tarkov's Cods 2042

[summer cedar]

lol. I got my computer to finally use 54GB of RAM. 😄

AI image generator ftw.

[pearl elk]

CoDs Infinite

[cursive crypt]

Counter Cod

[pearl elk]

they'll just keep releasing MW until Advanced Warfare is reality

[cursive crypt]

There must be something else after Advanced.

[summer cedar]

Fake, probably.

Or Pretend, maybe.

[pearl elk]

Infinite Warfare

which will become Advanced Warfare when Advanced Warfare becomes Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare becomes WW3

[cursive crypt]

A.I.fare

Or just, iFare

[pearl elk]

Call Of Duty Infinite Modern Black Ops

Not that any of these soldiers are dutiful anymore

[fathom wadi]

Ghost Recon had an Advanced Warfare game. Called Ghost Recon Advanced Warfare. Good naming if you think about it.

[cursive crypt]

Call of Beauty: Renaissance Ops

[pearl elk]

Battle and the Beast: Fall of Titans

[cursive crypt]

Tom's Six Titanbfalls

[pearl elk]

Unreal Tournament 2261

[cursive crypt]

Crossing fingers to live to see that.

[pearl elk]

It'll be a moba hero extraction shooter

[cursive crypt]

No human players, only AI.

[pearl elk]

why would humans play, clearly inferior beings