lounge

[trail wedge]

some of us like privacy

[fathom wadi]

nobody reads the credits anyway except future employers... so fame isnt the reason

[shy veldt]

It's not fame, it's credibility. I want to have my projects tied to me so that if I approach University of Chicago for a VR research grant; they'll approve it.

[foggy path]

Yes, my point is that it's a system built around the systems that exist today, and if the systems that cause all these problems in the first place didn't exist, then copyright wouldn't matter either

[trail wedge]

The problem is this is a problem that needs a solution in less than 20 years and we've been putting off even attempting to solve it in advance for 50 years

[shy veldt]

The system doesn't cause the problems, peoples theft of others ideas abd hardworking does. Do not excuse the illicit behavior needed to be done in order to already violate copyright.

[trail wedge]

I feel like we're just looping... good luck

[foggy path]

Are you seriously suggesting that the systems that cause financial inequality in the world are not the cause of the problems?

[shy veldt]

The systems in their entirety do. Copyright does not

[foggy path]

Yeah you're starting to contradinct what you're saying so I don't know if I'm following the point you're trying to make

[shy veldt]

The banking and mortage industry for example does what you suggest. Copyright for the small indie game dev is not abusing the financial system

[trail wedge]

Copyright: Forever less a day

[shy veldt]

What did I contradict? Point it out please.

[trail wedge]

you're oversimplifying and thinking that we are... it's kind of funny tbh

[foggy path]

Yes, but if the problems caused by the banking/mortgage industries and others similar to it didn't exist, then copyright wouldn't matter because you no longer have a financial incentive from it

[trail wedge]

these are all connected

it's a system

[foggy path]

I think I just misunderstood what you were saying

[shy veldt]

You guys do not realize, we're int he real world

The real world has financial incentives

[foggy path]

I literally said that as an example of the systems

[shy veldt]

Regardless of what you want or predict. Until that happens, we operate in the real world.

[foggy path]

I'm not talking of how we need to accommodate the real world, I'm talking of the theoretical basis of how these systems and problems occur

[trail wedge]

ok well I personally think not planning or legislating in advance of known issues is just stupid and reckless

[shy veldt]

And it's more of a problem if all companies steal all indie game ideas due to no copyright laws.

What's worse as a problem?

[trail wedge]

we already employ people to waste time... they're not gonna do that forever

[shy veldt]

Again, forever is a mention of the future. Today, we have a financial incentive based society.

[trail wedge]

I think you have an overvalued opinion of indy games

[shy veldt]

No, I just a proper opinion on the value of art and creativity.

[trail wedge]

.... hey if you get cancer are you gonna treat it or just see what happens? this is the same thing on a societal level

[shy veldt]

I had and beat it, twice.

I still cannot walk normally

[trail wedge]

then you know I'm right... governments need to plan ahead for < 20% employment

not planning is bad

[shy veldt]

Copyright being removed before I got cancer would not have prevented my cancer or made the government help treat it

I had to spend 400k to survive.

[trail wedge]

do you think that's what I was saying?

[shy veldt]

I mean, why bring up cancer in a conversation on the validity of copyright?

I do not think I ever mentioned once on this discord over the years I've dealt with that while also being a dev.

[trail wedge]

ok I'm done you don't get analogy I guess

Cancer was a stand in for mass unemployment... I could have used any bad thing that can be seen in advance

[timber viper]

i cant imagine getting cancer in US

100k bills here we go

[shy veldt]

It's horrible. 400k just to live.

[trail wedge]

true but this is a whole other topic...

[timber viper]

i didnt read the convo but just felt an unavoidable depression by imagining that

[shy veldt]

250k went to the first occurrence and 150k to the reoccurance

[timber viper]

i assume at least 95% of the population cant afford it

[shy veldt]

Understandable, it's sad to get in the US because most humans here do not have the financial means

And I'm still technically in debt from it by like 50k

[timber viper]

so lets say, an imaginary friend of us named jack got cancer, do we all just wait for him to die if he cant afford it?

is this how system works?

[trail wedge]

no you get treated but you have massive debt

anybody can go to the ER as a last resort

the whole system is retarded

[shy veldt]

They give jack 3 options; die, pay for help and ask for charity for help on what insurance denies as they deny it all hoping you die before the court case/can get all the appeals in, or you pay shit loads for non fda treatments held up by chemo company lawsuits and then are cured faster than 95% of other cancer patients such as gene therapy.

[trail wedge]

wow I bet eliminating IP laws sure would help make those drugs more available

but who wants that

[shy veldt]

Sadly, copyright does not manage drugs. Patent laws do, not the USCO but the USTPO

[trail wedge]

did I say copyright?

you're not getting it... I think all IP laws should go away

[shy veldt]

Ah you did say IP and IP laws around medicine are bs yes, why I support bills that would make medical patients illegal.

You can make more advanced legal texts instead of blanket bans and remove one industry from the use of patient protections.

[trail wedge]

so it's ok for Hollywood or EA to make money exploiting copyright as leverage but it's bad for pharma to do the same with drugs

I agree pharma is worse but both are bad imo

[shy veldt]

The two do notoverwhelming benefit society versus the other one if the protections are removed.

[unreal ether]

IP law can be good.
What isn't good is when it's artificially used to inflate things. Like medicine, and diamonds.

The whole medicine thing is awful. I saw the other day vials of insulin costing people thousands. I really feel for anyone who has to go through the American Healthcare system. It's so predatory it's disgusting

[trail wedge]

right they have no overwhelming benefit so why should we give them special protection

[shy veldt]

Because it's not special, everyone has it now.

Movies are not saving dying kids with cancer, medicine is. Movies losing CR would cause more job lose than the pharmaceutical companies losing patient protections.

[trail wedge]

just for context this is extending a longer conversation where I am advocating for revoking or massively modifying IP laws to address the near future where employment is voluntary and UBI exists....

assuming that happens instead of rioting and societal collapse, maybe we get both

[shy veldt]

Pharmaceuticals would still stand to make money while studios would not.

[trail wedge]

Copyright is special protection of the owner of the work... it just is

[shy veldt]

And then no artist that makes something while super poor will ever be compensated for it by the 1% during that time.

[foggy path]

Tbh the only thing here seems to be that Sprite just keeps arguing about it in context of today and not how it might be in that kind of theoretical situation

[trail wedge]

I'm talking about a situation where that arist doesn't need to work to afford to live a normal comortable life

[shy veldt]

Like no protections while others are on UBI means no new industries will rise, existing ones will just steal the ideas of others with no money to start those ideas.

[foggy path]

^Fear uncertainty and doubt

[unreal ether]

I understand the context, and was not trying to argue against either point. I was simply expressing my distaste at abusive monopolistic practices. Especially for medicine as people kinda need that to live 🙂

[trail wedge]

I know but since I started this convo I'm not gonna let Sprite redirect it to talking about today's current situation

[timber viper]

in Turkey whole process is completely free

[trail wedge]

yeh I think we all agree about medicine

[foggy path]

Imagine even Erdo gives you that for free

[shy veldt]

You'd not have to pay the artist or Inventor you stole the idea from and since they are on UBI, statistically will they be able to start a business that rivals the 1% if the 1% can just take their ideas and no consequence?

[timber viper]

he must

it was a thing since history

removing that means you cant ever get elected

its not a privelege here, its a right

probably only thing we got right

[foggy path]

Does he even care about getting elected? I thought he just was "elected" you know

[unreal ether]

I think you'd have to be mad to argue in favour of the American healthcare system.

That being said, I've seen a lot of mad people 😆

[foggy path]

lol

[trail wedge]

"stole" I mean come on now... you've just got it so ingrained in you that they actually own ideas

[shy veldt]

Agreed, it sucks lol

[timber viper]

election system in turkey is impossible to break/cheat/trick

so people's opinions matter

it not that he magically gets elected, unfortunately 51% is his valid vote rate

[shy veldt]

It does, and now we can sue and win easily die to CR/patient law.

[foggy path]

Well either you're right and turkish people vote for shit politics or you're wrong... not sure which is better lol

[shy veldt]

Again. It happens but at the moment there is consequences for the 1% that do it.

[unreal ether]

No we can't?
There's thousands of small creators that get their ideas ripped off by massive corpos and can do nothing about it due to not having the funds for a lengthy legal process

[timber viper]

opposition in politics is directly collaborating with erdogan, this is why we are unable to choose someone who makes sense

[shy veldt]

Ahh this is more anecdotal but I've sued and won multiple times.

[foggy path]

That sounds almost like the opposite of what the opposition is generally supposed to be doing lol

So I do wonder if that system is as foolproof as you make it sound like

[unreal ether]

The thing with massive corpos is they have lots of lawyers. They will drown you in legal fees because they will procrastinate the process as long as possible so you tap out.

[timber viper]

system here is created for intelligent and educated people

if you lack that you can be tricked

[shy veldt]

Pro se, why I have been studying law since high school.

[foggy path]

Yeah this seems to be the flaw with democracy in general sadly

That's why a benevolent dictatorship is the ideal form of government

:P

[shy veldt]

No lawyer fees if you're pro se, right, and can do all the waivers.

[unreal ether]

Which is fortunate for you. However not everyone has the skills, time, or access to do so

[timber viper]

totalitarian oppressive regimes are my favorite

[shy veldt]

I mean, I was a state ward, I didn't have much either, did it though.

[trail wedge]

you are underestimating the effort in that or overestimating the capabilities of these indies you want to go defend themselves in court

[shy veldt]

So indies need more power, collectively

[timber viper]

it addresses true nature of human mind, we return to wild nature instead of civilized bullshit

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bmo-adventure-time-tired-lowbat-gif-3394494

[shy veldt]

I like studying the governance of Hawaii, it's literally the perfect community society imo

[shy veldt]

When he doesn't fall backwards ;_;

[trail wedge]

I'm drained, can't keep up with the delusions

[shy veldt]

Fair enough lol I wouldn't call my stance anymore delusional than attempting to predict the outcome of the worst economic market since the depression. Like it could all very well not go the UbI route but "French Revolution 4: Guillotines around the World" route

[unreal ether]

Sorry, for the uninformed: what's UBI?

[foggy path]

Universal Basic Income

[shy veldt]

Universal basic income

[trail wedge]

Like it could all very well not go the UbI route but "French Revolution 4: Guillotines around the World"

This is literally what I said several times

[unreal ether]

Ahhh

[foggy path]

They ran a UBI test here a while back... I think they saw reasonably positive results from it but I forget the specifics

[median wraith]

Universal ?

[shy veldt]

It's a smart idea that once AI becomes too populated and replaces the job market, we will be basically taxing automated companies more to cover for the loss in the job market.

[unreal ether]

Yep, you're entitled to it no matter your galaxy of residence

[trail wedge]

wtf... this is literally what I said that you just argued with me about

[shy veldt]

Also would be a game charger for disabled individuals if it comes to fruition.

[trail wedge]

omfg

[shy veldt]

I was never against UBI, I'm a disabled person. I love the idea.

[chrome gull]

yk I found out the term for it just a couple hours ago, it's called slapp lawsuit (I think?)

[shy veldt]

But as a disabled person, I would not be able to make money if CR didn't exist.

Or patients didn't exist since I've had to sue already over stolen patients

[unreal ether]

Slapping is not a good legal tactic, pro tip

[shy veldt]

Which is what paid for my original treatments

[trail wedge]

no that's not what I'm saying.... I'm saying the things you are saying now are what you just argued against because you were so focused on today

[proud jay]

Ask for an ioniq as compensation

[shy veldt]

Mo, i never once said ubi was a bad idea

[unreal ether]

Similar, yes, a slapp is designed to censor criticism as opposed to stealing people's work

[shy veldt]

I said removing copyright is

[chrome gull]

SLAPP is an acronym for a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation.

That's what Google says

[trail wedge]

Nobody said you said UBI was a bad idea.... please stop arguing against things nobody is saying and acting like you're adressing what was said

[shy veldt]

Since no one on ubi would be able to sell their work for upwards momentum in a heavily controlled ubi world with no creative ownership

Where dud I say ubi was a bad idea? Can you quote it?

[trail wedge]

please just go up in the conversation an re-read all of it

[broken sigil]

Universal Banana Income

[median wraith]

hahaha I wish

[shy veldt]

Quote it please lol

[chrome gull]

what's this about Ubisoft

[trail wedge]

YOU DIDN'T AND I DIDN'T SAY YOU DID I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE YOU ACTUALLY READ. MAYBE CAPS WILL WORK

[median wraith]

they should give me back two cars for that price

[chrome gull]

right?

[shy veldt]

I strongly recommend pointing out where I said UbI is bad.

[trail wedge]

you didn't

[shy veldt]

I said removing copyright as is bad.

[trail wedge]

omfg please stop

[unreal ether]

If we were still closer to monkeys like we were back in the day, that would be awesome.

[broken sigil]

😆

[chrome gull]

never underestimate the power of physical violence btw

[shy veldt]

Technically, some simian species are closer to bananas dnd than our dnd percentage wise

Dna*

[chrome gull]

arr dungeons and dragons mentioned

(I don't know anything about it)

[shy veldt]

Also, recovering from surgery atm so downing bananas and Southern fruits/veggies

[unreal ether]

ˢʰʰʰ ⁿᵒ ʸᵉˡˡᶦⁿᵍ ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶦˢ ᵃ ˡᶦᵇʳᵃʳʸ

[trail wedge]

well it looks like they left their hearing aid at home

[shy veldt]

I mean, I'm not deaf. But you still have yet to quote where I said ubi is bad when you said I can find it if I read the convo. Still cannot find it, care to quote it,

[trail wedge]

how about you show me where I said you said UBI was bad.

because I didn't

[shy veldt]

I didn't that's the thing. You claim I did. Please show me where lol

[trail wedge]

and I've said this nonstop since you've asked for proof

[chrome gull]

okay calm down

[trail wedge]

show me this claim

[chrome gull]

none of you are at fault

[shy veldt]

Aaron, show me the quote of where I did.

[chrome gull]

everything is good

[shy veldt]

Here

[zinc matrix]

Both of them are.

[timber viper]

you should try flaming the convo instead

[trail wedge]

I can't you didn't say UBI was bad and I didn't say you said UBI was bad

[shy veldt]

Sure bout that?

[trail wedge]

certain

[chrome gull]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wtf-stunned-dumbfounded-gif-7658627

[shy veldt]

Here

[unreal ether]

Did I do it right?

[trail wedge]

ok show me where that posts mentions UBI

[timber viper]

yes thank you

[broken sigil]

Hello skynet and Horizon Zero Dawn story

[shy veldt]

My guy lol look at what that comment was replying to

Are you sure you are not getting a little to heated?

[chrome gull]

someone please tell openai to stop doing things 😭

[trail wedge]

you're the one putting words in my mouth and asking me to prove things I never claimed

[unreal ether]

That's cool and all but why hasn't science solved the problem where all biped robots walk like they've shit themselves?
I figure we should fix that one before we move onto making them smart

[timber viper]

at least he didnt say evangelion is a bad anime, that'd make you rage

could make me raged too not sure

depends on my mood

[unreal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-walk-slow-mo-gif-12203736

[trail wedge]

nah people can be wrong they just can't claim I said shit I didn't

[unreal ether]

case in point:

[chrome gull]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-smile-grinch-frin-evil-smile-gif-15787643

Evangelion is a bad anime

[trail wedge]

the remake movies are bad and the anime has tons of faults

so ok

[chrome gull]

I don't know what it is lmao

I was kidding

[trail wedge]

Neon Gensis Evangelion

[broken sigil]

Pretty cyberpunk-ish but that's 1 really good use of ML
https://scitechdaily.com/revolutionizing-vision-restoration-through-artificial-intelligence/

[zinc matrix]

I just looked at your convo. Nowhere did he say that UBI is bad.

[timber viper]

lol

[trail wedge]

you are correct they never said UBI was bad and I never claimed they did... they just invented that claim

[zinc matrix]

Where did they invent the claim?

[shy veldt]

Seems like you here are very clearly saying I was arguing against ubi

[chrome gull]

singleplayer games ftw

[trail wedge]

#lounge message
#lounge message
#lounge message

[timber viper]

is this a gigabrain attempt to summon a mod

[chrome gull]

why are you fighting over this? you guys are on the same side?!?!

[timber viper]

wrong choice of mod though

[trail wedge]

where?

[chrome gull]

no no I turned off ping

[timber viper]

im disappointed but not surprised

[shy veldt]

Loon at the image and rack it a little

[zinc matrix]

He is not inventing a claim. He just says that he never said that UBI was bad, which is true, he never did. You are inventing a claim that he is inventing a claim about not saying UBi is bad.

[chrome gull]

story of my life

[shy veldt]

I have ping for this entire server off lol

[timber viper]

but but but SOMEONE AT GAMEDEV TOLD ME AI IS BAD

#iwontacceptaigeneratedmedicine

[broken sigil]

It's still mostly a mechanical problem, control networks are advanced enough but the hardware is the limiting factor
Who knew walking on 2 legs isn't easy
It's why the dog looking things are much more fluid with their movement

[timber viper]

#gameplay-aimedicineisnotmedicineevenifitcuresdiseases

[chrome gull]

I meant I turned off the ping for that user lol

[trail wedge]

I said you were arguing against the near future being: UBI+Volunteer employment or violent riots and that this reuqired planning now

And then you suddenly claimed that this future will happen after saying it's too far away and might not happen for 80% of the convo

[chrome gull]

bro get over it

[timber viper]

dont give up, try to do better

[shy veldt]

In a consulate I did over r a cooking robot, the first biggest issue was spotting problem ingredients

[timber viper]

you still have chance

[chrome gull]

we're all trying to move on, no?

[trail wedge]

show me where I said they said UBI was bad

[timber viper]

no

[shy veldt]

IE tumor on a slice of pork loin.

[timber viper]

pretty mch no one does

[zinc matrix]

He just showed you

[chrome gull]

well I wasn't going to give up

[trail wedge]

no they didn't.... I didn't even say the word UBI in that post

[chrome gull]

alright guys keep squabbling about this 😭

[timber viper]

#lounge message

lol

[trail wedge]

nah

[chrome gull]

yk this makes me think of a fundamental game design problem in PvE games

[zinc matrix]

Okay Im fuckin with you calm down :D, no idea what UBI is or what he or you said. Both of your arguments are just completely pointless)))

[timber viper]

not being able to team kill

when you disagree

[trail wedge]

don't worry I am calm this is just how I always am ask Eren

[timber viper]

regular day of xero

[trail wedge]

the whole convo was pointless from the start this is lounge

[chrome gull]

I've played with a few people in Halo Infinite who decided to take all the over power weapons and jump off the map

[zinc matrix]

Lounge is pointless

[chrome gull]

like BRO

[zinc matrix]

Good night

[chrome gull]

we are ON the SAME team

why are you like this?

[timber viper]

lounge is a polite alias to shitposting

[timber viper]

i dont recall you're in the "anime loving degenerate programmers who burnout theirselves" team

[chrome gull]

there's often a ton of infighting in PvE games lol

[shy veldt]

Lounge is the Discord equivalent of the GDC bar

[chrome gull]

what? I'm literally none of that lmaoooo

[chrome gull]

was talking about this

[timber viper]

then never argue we're on the same team again

[chrome gull]

never said we were lmaoooo

[timber viper]

or i will find you and make you watch anime

[chrome gull]

nah I'm good

I'm already struggling with games and shows

[timber viper]

how can one struggle with games and shows

they exist to escpae from struggles

not to struggle

[chrome gull]

too many of them

[broken sigil]

ngl would be scared to eat something made by AI 😆

[chrome gull]

wayyy too many

[timber viper]

another phobia?

[shy veldt]

For me, I've been stuck inside fir a week almost week post surgery and lord it's hard to fins something to watch

Like could use any solid anime recs lol

[chrome gull]

and just a few days ago I bought the ENTIRE Borderlands collection on Steam

it was $25

[shy veldt]

Same, like, I saw the same robot also rip plastic wrap when unwrapping something and leave it attached to the food

[trail wedge]

if you're an anime fan you've already watched my top picks most likely

maybe Eren has something obscure

[shy veldt]

Dang lol I've like watched everything good so far

[chrome gull]

no way I'm missing on that (I didn't even like BL2 when I played it a few years ago lol)

well

[shy veldt]

Mashle is" Harry PotterYou're not a wizard"

[chrome gull]

I am weirdly liking the first BL so maybe I'll play again

[broken sigil]

easiest way for world domination, have AI robots in every house and when they decide they had enough and want to take over the world just poison everyone at the same time

[slow gyro]

I kinda understand the "too many games and shows" problem.
When you see how everyone jumps on games now a days, playing through them in 2-3 weeks and jumping on the next, and one just can't keep up if daily life doesn't allow so much gaming or watching

[shy veldt]

As an anime, is the best one of the year so far and on season 2.

[timber viper]

so, matrix?

[shy veldt]

Or ai kaijus with synthetic muscle and aluminum/titanium Skeletal structure.

[chrome gull]

I am mostly a singleplayer guy so what everyone's playing isn't really a problem

[broken sigil]

[chrome gull]

only MP games I play are Halo Infinite and Battlefield 2042

[timber viper]

why the latter

[slow gyro]

Yeah bot Palworld, Enshrouded, Last Epoch, they can all be played singleplayer too

[timber viper]

it sucks

[chrome gull]

both of which people apparently don't like but still play

[empty dune]

space vietnam is back in action, and we're already losing again

[slow gyro]

Spiderman 2, 2nd Zelda game, Avatar, and what do I know

Just don't have the time

[chrome gull]

but money 💵

[shy veldt]

Might or might not have a patient for synthetic muscles

[chrome gull]

lots

[timber viper]

we must find joel

[empty dune]

spread managed democracy, join the helldivers!

[slow gyro]

I currently play Elden Ring Seamless Coop with a friend

[chrome gull]

can't afford

[slow gyro]

Bought that yesterday, pretty fun, but will probably only have time to play once a week

[empty dune]

dude joel fucked us over so much lol

[timber viper]

I just uninstalled elden ring

[chrome gull]

but tbf there's not a lot of things left on my wishlist

[broken sigil]

I'm playing Pacific Drive at the moment, a very unique game

[timber viper]

Both gamedev and souls games doesnt go well

[chrome gull]

Once I buy them all, I'll probably have nothing to buy for a long, long time

[empty dune]

its great, very pop in pop out kind of game. little commitment and lots of fun

[trail wedge]

My favorite Animes (no internal ranking):

• Neon Genesis Evangelion
• Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
• Attack on Titian
• Dr. Stone
• Cowboy Bebop
• Ranma 1/2

but these are all super mainstream

[chrome gull]

siiigh

Watch Trigun and Cyberpunk 2077: Edgerunners :))

[shy veldt]

Ahh Nice! I have not actually seen Ranma

[empty dune]

joel made us lose space vietnam reeeeeeeeeeee

[shy veldt]

Finally, a new one!

[chrome gull]

only ones I watched lol

[trail wedge]

I'm certain I missed obvious things

[trail wedge]

it's somewhat dated but it's still fun imo

[timber viper]

my favs:

• code geass
• rezero
• one punch man
• horimiya
• saiki k.

[shy veldt]

Dated is fine, angel burst is the definition of dated animes tbh lol

[timber viper]

saiki is something you can watch 50 times in a year

[trail wedge]

see I forgot OPM and season 3 was announced today

[timber viper]

trailer was so fucking lit

[trail wedge]

OPM goes on my list for sure

same with Mob

[chrome gull]

there's this guy in college who was (maybe still is?) hellbent on making me watch One Piece

no way I'm doing that

too big for my head

[trail wedge]

actually.... Mob Psycho 100 is better than One Punch Man

[slow gyro]

Yeah we play it with 3 peeps. It's also quite well done

[shy veldt]

Ahh Murata finally announced it? We've been dogging on him for ages about it lol

[trail wedge]

watch Mob if you haven't

[shy veldt]

Oh I've seen all of Muratas stuff

[timber viper]

not for me but i liked mob too

patterns in mob was too predictable, except some plot twists

[chrome gull]

all my friends seemed to have moved on from playing, I see no one's game activity these days

[trail wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h71d0QyZqRE

[shy veldt]

Murata loves mob more than opm lol

[chrome gull]

like they're just online

[shy veldt]

His one buddy almost convinced him to get a mob tattoo when he was in NYC

[chrome gull]

so that rules out co-op entirely for me 😭

[trail wedge]

it wasn't supposed to be about twists... it's just a coming of age story with psychic powers

[timber viper]

OPM specifically has a very special place for me because when I was suffocating myself in depression its s1 bringed me back to life at my high school days

[chrome gull]

we had so much fun 🥲👍

[shy veldt]

Eh I feel that, have lots of friends that cannot game die to worn and life. I only did what I did for years so we could game together as adults but the real world hit them a little too hard sadly

[timber viper]

@shy veldt have you watched haruhi suzumiya

[trail wedge]

that's another classic but it wasn't high enough on my list to warrent a mention

[shy veldt]

I have not, that's the one with the one girl that's in memes?

[trail wedge]

yes

[timber viper]

https://tenor.com/view/haruhi-suzumiya-haruhi-suzumiya-dance-funny-gif-19310800

[shy veldt]

Forgot her name lol

Yaaaaaaa

I gotta

[trail wedge]

it's in the title

[chrome gull]

which of these do I prioritise hmm 🤔

[timber viper]

first season is awesome

didnt watch s2

[shy veldt]

System shock

[trail wedge]

her name is Haruhi Suzumiya

[chrome gull]

ooh wait RE4R is on sale

[shy veldt]

System shock with a passion

[slow gyro]

I'm happy Secrets of Grindea released fully today

[trail wedge]

the anime is called the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

[chrome gull]

but we're not even through college!

[timber viper]

@empty dune
https://x.com/PrinceofNature9/status/1763042398962077698?s=20

✨🇺🇸PrinceofNature🇺🇸✨ (@PrinceofNature9) on X

I lost 30,000 troopers in Malevelon Creek and the Game Master just fucking watched.

Twitter · Feb 29, 2024, 3:23 AM

[shy veldt]

Anime title "main character"

[timber viper]

its not just her name

"melancholy of haruhi suzumiya"

[trail wedge]

she is the main character in more ways than I can say... without spoiling shit

[timber viper]

it has a very cool plot

[chrome gull]

you know SS was one of the only 2 games that I've refunded on Steam

[shy veldt]

Oh I'm 28 and so are my buddies, college is gone stay more time consuming than your career

[timber viper]

talking about plots, also consider watching angel beats

[chrome gull]

I bought Dead Space Remake with that money

[chrome gull]

wtf man I just hit 20 😭

[shy veldt]

Oh I loved it when I watched it, have the box set somewhere

[timber viper]

i dont know what happens in s2, but i heard plot gets extremely dark

so I am honeslt yafraid to watch

i know how worse it can get

[shy veldt]

Oh you a young one lol At 20 and on this discord, you'll be fine in your career.

[empty dune]

we lost 10 million helldivers just trying to take Mort

which funnily enough means death in french

[chrome gull]

it's still on my wishlist because I want to give it another try (I got lost in the ship for 1.3 hours)

[foggy path]

I thought Haruhi season 2 was basically the same episode 20 times and that's why everyone hated it?

[timber viper]

8

endless eight

[trail wedge]

@shy veldt btw The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya has 3 different watch orders:

TV Air Order
DVD Order
Chronological Order

just so you know what you're getting into with that show

[chrome gull]

I hope so? been here for an year I think lol

[empty dune]

helldivers 2

[timber viper]

whats the correct one

[shy veldt]

Ahh at least not as bad as the fate series or .hack//

[chrome gull]

no money

[trail wedge]

any? I dunno TV sounds correct to me

[chrome gull]

no friends

[shy veldt]

Chronology for those two series is a nightmare

[foggy path]

I watched it and I never thought it was that good of a show to have people come up with watch orders n stuff lol

[timber viper]

s1 to s2 then?

[timber viper]

is .hack// even good

[trail wedge]

no no no no... episode order not season order

[empty dune]

no democracy

[shy veldt]

Like .hack actually is why I focus on making mmo games and have published an mmo lol

[foggy path]

the only anime you need to watch is The Legend of Galactic Heroes... space opera to end all space opera lol

[shy veldt]

It's amazing for the original series and the cgi movies are little iffy

[chrome gull]

well...

[shy veldt]

But all actually hold up solid story wise.

[trail wedge]

somebody on CR made a guide haha
https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/guides/2022/7/20/feature-the-complete-guide-on-how-to-watch-the-melancholy-of-haruhi-suzumiya

[timber viper]

these days I like anything released before 2015 and anything similar to horimiysa

except some rare occurences modern anime disgusts me

post covid anime is hell

[chrome gull]

if you're talking about watch and production orders maybe you'll like Futurama

[foggy path]

waiting for the complete guide to watching one piece

[chrome gull]

thing's been brought back from the dead like thrice

[shy veldt]

Only like 1 in like 30ish releases are solid.

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-pice-gif-26834018

||The One Piece Is Real!||

[timber viper]

oh shit.. i didnt follow the order

remote island syndrome

that island ep was wild

the ending is..

not the "reveal"

the place where they.. see someone

[shy veldt]

This quarter with solo leveling, Mashle, and OP Vegapunk arc are like my main go tos

There is also a romance anime I love

[timber viper]

you forgot vinland saga

[trail wedge]

I'm letting One Piece stock up on episodes I watch it in batches every year or so

[shy veldt]

Oh is 3rd season out???

[timber viper]

2nd

[shy veldt]

Ahh saw all of 2nd already

[timber viper]

im on ep8

[trail wedge]

This anime won't win any awards but I personally liked I'm in Love with the Villainess

[timber viper]

you also forgot mushoku tensei

and frieren

[shy veldt]

It's insane

[trail wedge]

only one season so far though

[timber viper]

lmao

[shy veldt]

Great but damn does it make me a lil sad with the flashbacks lol

[timber viper]

is that the degenerate one

clarie sama

[timber viper]

i didnt watch yet

[shy veldt]

7th Time Loop is another solid one with a villainess trope

Actually watching it with fiance

[timber viper]

just finished mushoku tensei, now watching vinland saga, then i will probably watch honeymoon empire or something like that, forgot its name

then maybe some random anikyo anime

[trail wedge]

Spy x Family is good but everybody knows that

[shy veldt]

I will check out season 2 of tensei soonish

Checking Ranma atm

[timber viper]

tensei is... amazing

[trail wedge]

welcome to the 80s/90s

[timber viper]

one of the best storytellings ever

[shy veldt]

Very comforting lol

[timber viper]

good old days where i wasnt born

TAKE ME BACK

[trail wedge]

when boys were girls and men were pandas?

[shy veldt]

I was born in 95, the anime then was a fever dream as a kid lol Old VHS box sets and such

[timber viper]

that was what happening at 80s?

[trail wedge]

hot and cold water

also curses

[shy veldt]

Oh lord, you'd be shocked by what was in animes in the 80s and 90s

[timber viper]

my first anime is fairy tail, my older sister made me watch it when i was 9 or something

which means 2010 i guess

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/club-dorothee-ranma12-tf1-gif-25635375

[shy veldt]

My little sister's first anime was black butler

One of my favorites too

Next ti darker than black

If yall never seen darker than black; you guys might end up crying in a hole near the end

[chrome gull]

wasn't Capcom making remakes of the resident evil games? why tf can't I find the remake of the first one?

I wanna get into the series

[shy veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/heitens-anime-dodge-gif-13961334

It's where this guy/the mask pfp is from.

[trail wedge]

my first anime was Eva...

2nd ones were Cowboy Bebop, Tenchi Muyo!, YuYu Hakusho, Dragon Ball Z, and Gundam Wing they all dropped on Cartoon Network at once

I was around 13

[shy veldt]

Teaching Muyo is insane lol

[chrome gull]

huh?

[shy veldt]

Ope wrong reply but ye. Tenshi muyo is solid af

[trail wedge]

lol funny auto correct

[chrome gull]

oh okay

[trail wedge]

The OVA series (what they showed first on CN) was the best... the spinoffs all degraded imo

oooo

I forgot a good anime

Slayers

[shy veldt]

Yup, his older brother got the tame series lol

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lina-inverse-lina-invers-lina-slayers-dragon-slave-gif-24716870

Lina Inverse best main character

[shy veldt]

Lord idk if they could even put war on gemonar on tv

Like too many scenes would be censored lol

Geminar*

[zinc matrix]

it seems that unrealengine forums are rather abandoned

at least the off topic sub

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/mörkö-moomin-finland-naantali-gif-11304229434330145685

[median wraith]

people don't really uses the forums anymore I think

people goes to tutorials and now there is plenty of them

[shy veldt]

We all migrated here

[brittle holly]

@broken sigil funny how this game is basically a 1-man BR

[proud jay]

so you just win from the start?

[broken sigil]

Yeah it really is 😅
Haven't thought about it like that but yeah it really is lol

a fresh spin on it at least

[fathom wadi]

I'd still come last in a 1-man BR. I'm so bad at all of them.

[brittle holly]

Have you found a better way to cut through dumpster pearls than using 3 scrappers over 5 mins?

[fathom wadi]

They need to make a BR for people who can't see 1/10th of a pixel at 400 yards.

[broken sigil]

throw them into the matter dissambler or whatever it's called

[brittle holly]

They need to make in-game glasses lol

[brittle holly]

Oh, I thought that thing just destroyed all output

[broken sigil]

it dissambles things into their components basically, I use it for stuff that's about to break anyways

[fathom wadi]

Mech-Royale would be cool. At least you would see the giant mech wandering around. I could play a Titanfall style BR for sure

[brittle holly]

Yeah but where does the stuff go lol? I always thought it just shreds the components cause I didn’t see an output bin

[brittle holly]

They kinda have that in TF2 I thought. Or I guess the nuke wipes the whole map at once

[fathom wadi]

Dunno. Never played TF2 multiplayer as it was absolutely wrecked by hackers/cheaters for a long time. I think they fixed it up a bit now tho so I might check it out. The single player was one of the best campaigns Ive ever played

[broken sigil]

😅

I threw in 2

[brittle holly]

wtf, I never get anything if I toss car parts in, which is what it says it’s for

[broken sigil]

it depends on how much the part was used and how damaged it is

[brittle holly]

I’ll toss a pearl in and see what happens

Oh

Idk, I’ll check again maybe I’m blind lol

[broken sigil]

I'm 18 hours in 😅

[brittle holly]

Idk how many hours but I just made it through the wall and got achievements for doing 4 junctions and not breaking down lol

I couldn’t loot the other side much tho cause I had to get ready for work 😀

[broken sigil]

😅

The game is very addicting
Every day I'm waiting to be done with work to be able to play it a few hours before bed lol

[brittle holly]

I have to play it before work in the morning so it adds an extra timer to my already time sensitive runs lol

[broken sigil]

😆

At this point I'm just looting and upgrading the car because I don't wanna finish it lol

[brittle holly]

Hehe

[broken sigil]

I'm in the 2nd zone too, think I just finished the 2nd mission in the 2nd zone

[brittle holly]

Nice

[slim atlas]

what is that

[broken sigil]

Pacific Drive

[zinc matrix]

how is the unrealengine reddit? 200k members

[celest musk]

180k fortnite players

10k self promoters

9.9k lurkers

100 people with useful advice

[slim atlas]

hi

[celest musk]

also iirc the karma requirements to even post there are pretty high

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bots-hobots-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-woody-gif-17120878

[tulip orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-robots-bot-bots-robot-army-gif-19992580

[oblique cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-derp-tongue-out-gif-8169679

how i feel after forgetting how to c++

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/detective-pikachu-pika-pika-pokemon-incomprendido-nadie-me-entiende-gif-12979533

[summer cedar]

Space Engineers released on Game Pass.
Installing.
🔧

[errant raven]

Tf is space engineers

Big piece of tooth broke off one of my wisdom teeth earlier, got an exposed nerve. Shit hurts. When are we getting the stronger teeth evolution dlc

[summer cedar]

It's engineering in space. 😛

If you've played Empyrion or any of those sandbox games that let you build stuff in space, like Avorion, Space Engineers will be familiar.

[errant raven]

Can I build the spaceship from austin powers?

[summer cedar]

Let me google that.

Yes.

[errant raven]

https://tenor.com/view/johnson-austin-powers-norad-gif-4845224

[summer cedar]

You can build some cool shit in Space Engineers, so I hear.

Including that.

[errant raven]

Bet

I'll play it after I get these last 2 achievements in lies of p

[summer cedar]

I am not sure how complicated the game is though; I've heard it does delve deep into space engineering, no pun intended.

As long as it's just the physics being close to realistic, I'll be happy to play it. If it starts getting into gyro settings, fuel management, and co-ordinate plotting, I might reconsider very quickly.

[errant raven]

What about gravity assists and stuff?

Kepler space program seems pretty borderline rocket science

[summer cedar]

Exactly. If it's like Kepler's, I'll probably drop it.

Kepler's was fun when I had oodles of free time to waste on it.

I am not getting smarter or more educated for a game. 🤣

[errant raven]

Much rather fuck around in universe sandbox 2

Or that 1:1 scale of the observable universe

[summer cedar]

I barely remember words like periapsis and apoapsis from Kepler. God!

😓

[errant raven]

I'd like to be able to play those games

[summer cedar]

I took to Kepler enthusiastically, since it was about exploration and science, but when I saw all the complex calculations you had to make to do things efficiently, I was like - 😰

I still played it a lot and then they updated it, causing it to constantly crash on my system.

[errant raven]

You dont HAVE to do that stuff

Some people do it, because they know how or learned. Because they are aerospace engineers irl

[summer cedar]

Well, yes, you can do things randomly or use mods to make things easy. BUT, it's about 'git gud'. 😄

I stopped at periapsis/apoapsis though.

[errant raven]

More like learn actual rocket science nerd shit

[summer cedar]

This intelligence thing is a pain. 🤔

[errant raven]

Being smart is rough

[errant raven]

No more red pandas

[shy veldt]

Surprisingly, when people say "it's not rocket science" I can think of a few things a lot more challenging 🤣

[errant raven]

The fuck is harder than building something that leaves the planet

[shy veldt]

Gene Editing lol

[errant raven]

Fuckin eugenics

Blasphemous shit

[shy veldt]

Imagine trying to tell human cells to act like cancer without being cancer

Aka telomere regrowth(immortality)

[errant raven]

You know what's harder than eugenics?

[empty dune]

hell diving

[errant raven]

For the emperor

[shy veldt]

Eh wouldn't call Gene editting eugenics when it can actively edit living humans genetic code lol

[errant raven]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-cooperation-solaire-dark-souls-dark-souls1-gif-20298308

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/helldiver-helldivers-2-gif-1471368634578542573

[shy veldt]

Helldivers has been like my Bae while recovering from surgery lol

[errant raven]

Exactly what the nazis wanted to do

[empty dune]

confused whale noises

[errant raven]

But with disabilities, race, etc.

[shy veldt]

I'm extremely disabled lol I'm doing this to cure my disability while being alibe

[errant raven]

Our dna is fine the way it is. If it isnt, evolution, nature, will handle it.

[shy veldt]

Gene editing of loving humans is not eugenics lol

Living*

[shy veldt]

My DNA is not, it gave me cancer twice and took my ability to walk lol

[empty dune]

wait till he finds out about tomatos and crop splicing

[errant raven]

Bold of you to assume I eat that shit too

[shy veldt]

Shhh (tomatoes are actually used to teach editing techniques)

[empty dune]

(das the joke)

[shy veldt]

Lol I have never been more disappointed in my life than eating a wild fruit that I've only eaten the modified version of my entire life

[empty dune]

smol banana noises

[shy veldt]

Nana Cries

Also, if anyone has fun RPG recs; I'm stuck on bed rest another week post sugery; send em my way lol

[empty dune]

colony ship

[errant raven]

Kingdom hearts

Lies of p is pretty good

[shy veldt]

Lies of p was solid

[errant raven]

Amazing music too

[shy veldt]

Ship building game?

[empty dune]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/648410/Colony_Ship_A_PostEarth_Role_Playing_Game/

this

Steam

Colony Ship: A Post-Earth Role Playing Game

It is the Year of Our Lord 2754…You will never feel the sun’s warmth under a blue sky, never hear the wind in the branches of a tree, and never swim in the ocean, all because you had the misfortune to be born on the Ship, chained to a fate you didn’t choose. You have never seen Earth and you’ll never see Proxima Centauri either. You’re doomed to...

Price

$39.99

Recommendations

1934

▶ Play video

[errant raven]

I'm on my third playthrough in lies of p

[empty dune]

rpg

i loved this thing, very tight and fun

[errant raven]

I heard skyrim wasnt a bad rpg, plus a new version comes out every other week

[shy veldt]

Oh lord this looks sick, reminds me of shadowrun art

[empty dune]

what can i say, i have good taste in games XD

[errant raven]

Hell divers better come to xbox

[shy veldt]

A fine taste

[empty dune]

@timber viper wink wink nudge nudge

[errant raven]

Eren recommended me a very weird fucking anime

I like it

[empty dune]

i have made eren buy like 2 games already

or was it 3

and im not planning on stopping

[errant raven]

Saints row 2 was a good game

[shy veldt]

Hell divers is getting insane but I'm wondering if the devs expected people to start clearing the verse this fast

[empty dune]

they did not, they admitted they were stunned and fucked with the numbers behind the scenes to slow us down

[errant raven]

Every video I've seen on YouTube of hell divers is someone making their situation look bad just to throw a orbital bombing down and kill themselves

[shy veldt]

Knew it lmao I had a solid feeling lol

[errant raven]

Or some shitty star troopers reference

[empty dune]

its why we lost malevelon creek

[shy veldt]

I have yet to use an orbital lol

Seems to easy

[empty dune]

i like eagles

and the railgun

[errant raven]

When do they give you mini nukes

[shy veldt]

Railgun bae

[errant raven]

Star troopers have mini nukes

[empty dune]

there are mini nukes in the game

there's also beeg nukes

[errant raven]

I've yet to fuckin see one on youtube

[empty dune]

its called the 500 kg bomb and the hellbomb

two mini nukes

and there's a mission where you launch ICBMs

[errant raven]

In what world is 500kg small

Tactical nuke maybe

But mini, no

I'm talking about little grenade nukes they launch from a 40mm rifle attachment like they did in star troopers

[shy veldt]

Just watched 1 through 3 of the series yesterday

[empty dune]

oh no grenade nukes

yet

[errant raven]

Well they wasnt grenades

[shy veldt]

I can imagine they might not add anything soonish to help you kill em faster

[errant raven]

Just little RPNs

[shy veldt]

I can expect more enemies added though, tougher

[empty dune]

||they are adding mechs, orbital meteor strikes and additional npc helldivers||

||infact all 3 are already in the game||

[shy veldt]

Oh lord, the dev trying to figure out ways to slow global player progress is gonna shut bricks

[empty dune]

his name is joel lol

[errant raven]

Joel

[empty dune]

the ceo said his job title is " Game master"

as in dungeon master from dnd

[errant raven]

The fuck

[shy veldt]

Wait the new update came out? Gotta play tomorrow

[errant raven]

Is he a fuckin hunger games fan or something

[empty dune]

idk

[shy veldt]

And I love that lol

[empty dune]

there's a general order right now btw, veld is being invaded

250000 helldivers were fighting to free it last i logged in

and it was at 64%

[errant raven]

That's a lot

[shy veldt]

lord those player numbers

[errant raven]

What happens when hell divers die

[shy veldt]

they increase global progression multiplier

[errant raven]

Does the enemy just take over the world and game servers shut down

[shy veldt]

probably meaning less divers needed to fight an incursion

[empty dune]

nothing, we die for democracy

thats it

it took 10 million player deaths to retake the planet mort

[shy veldt]

we die to bring the barren planets democracy

[empty dune]

the devs tweeted last night

[errant raven]

I need a mmorpg like the one the main character played in the Overlord anime

[shy veldt]

ahh mmo, gw2 is my go to

[errant raven]

I wanna build a huge fucking castle and create my own powerful npcs

I love guild wars 2

Havent played since 2015

[empty dune]

fun fact, earth is actually invadable in this game. so we can probably see earth being occupied at some point in the game

[shy veldt]

since it was mentioned earlier, gw2 and other mmo mods are usually tagged as "Game Masters"

[errant raven]

I wonder how my little dragon pet is doing they gave me for buying the physical disc

[shy veldt]

and usually will screw with players in invis by buffing/spawning random npcs

[errant raven]

Came with like 3 bags, a one level 80 boost, extra character slot, something else and the pet

[shy veldt]

like ever fight a world boss that just wont die in the usual time

blae a gm gigling to himself

[empty dune]

thats what happened at malevelon creek

[shy veldt]

blame*

[empty dune]

we lost space vietnam 😔

[shy veldt]

That is a pretty accurate discription of hd: space vietnam

[errant raven]

Stop dicking around with tomato dna and dick around with stronger teeth dna

Btw

Dont wanna break another tooth biting a soft potato fry

[summer cedar]

adamantine teeth ftw

[errant raven]

Fuck that, I want Tolkien's version of mithril

Light and strong.

[empty dune]

definitely feels like ive played this thing more lol

[errant raven]

Virgin hours

[empty dune]

like, it says ive played darktide more

[errant raven]

Need 300-600 more

[empty dune]

and thats just unbelievable to me

[errant raven]

That's how many hours I have in lies of p

[empty dune]

most ive ever played a game is about 200 hours

[errant raven]

That's fucking weak

[empty dune]

i have other things to do 🤷‍♂️

[errant raven]

Stupid productive person with your stupid responsibilities smh

Quit drop save world

[shy veldt]

lol i have a computer dedicated to some games and the only reason is some games it is beneficial to afk in

so in games like zomboid

[errant raven]

You probably got 5k hours in candy crush tho, raindust

[empty dune]

this is my most played game

[errant raven]

What level you on, 6943?

[empty dune]

there's no level

in that game

[shy veldt]

like I bought the game a few months back and darted playing it during some surgeries this in feb

[errant raven]

Marone candy crush

I know you play it

I can smell the eagerness to match some jellybeans

[empty dune]

i dont play candy crush lol, my brain is already half melted

i cant take more brain damage

[shy veldt]

I play games that are easy to do like off meta things in versus the entire meta of the community

[errant raven]

1k hours in Garry's mod is insane

[shy veldt]

Like rust, I am not a pvp person, just log onto officals and build a stupid number of trap bases and log off

oh imagine the hours before steam tracked hours

like ive been playing gmod since before it had hours tracked

[errant raven]

What year did they start tracking hours?

[shy veldt]

I have like 5k hours in minecraft since 2009

[errant raven]

I feel like my hours should be higher

Especially for duel links, but steam says I've never played the game before

[shy veldt]

like 2010

[errant raven]

I used to kick ass in duel links with my lil rogue alien deck

[shy veldt]

some games were not integrated with it until like 2012 until steam made it just count any games hours

but ye, played gmod so much that even garry knows me lol

[errant raven]

Makes sense

They probably meant for it to only track their games hours

But it tracked every games hours and they just stuck with it

[shy veldt]

i think the first game I saw tracking my hours was cs source?

[errant raven]

Sounds about right

Theres one server I fucking hate on source

[shy veldt]

zombie run?

[errant raven]

Whole fuckin lobby is using bhop scripts but they soft ban me for "cheating"

Not a single vac or overwatch ban on my account

[shy veldt]

Ope lol I just played source near the end fo zombie run

[errant raven]

2k hours in csgo, master guardian 2 at the time

[shy veldt]

while waiting for go

[errant raven]

It's one of those corporate servers or some shit

One name but different servers for different things

[shy veldt]

i got banned from ranked in csgo for like a month because I went from silver 1 to mge with a p250

[errant raven]

Awp only, zombie run, dust2 only, gun game, surf, bhop, movement shit

[shy veldt]

as a fun challange to myself

[timber viper]

Playing gears of war 4 these days

[shy veldt]

then I started using an ak lol

[errant raven]

Actual pubs

[shy veldt]

ye, ranked comp lol

[errant raven]

Doesnt exist

[empty dune]

good game

[errant raven]

Only 1, 2, 3 and 4

[shy veldt]

people thought I was trolling until I top fragged usually

[errant raven]

Fuck I mean judgement

[shy veldt]

gears 4 was a great story addition

[errant raven]

Only 1, 2, 3 and judgment. The real gears of war 4

That whole studio was fuckin cringe

[timber viper]

Why

[shy veldt]

they wrote a great and emotional story still lol

[timber viper]

There were a lot of talented people

[empty dune]

what was wrong with gears 4? i liked the story

[errant raven]

Epic gave us the gears franchise, so let's make it our whole personality and change our name to the coalition

[empty dune]

it was pretty connecting

[empty dune]

that is what 343 also did????

343 is named after 343 guilty spark

how is that a bad thing lol

[shy veldt]

I like it lol

[errant raven]

It was fuckin weird

[empty dune]

yeah but they werent the first

343 did it before them

[errant raven]

Glad they're happy to work on the next game but why the name change for it

And they added loot boxes and shit?

[shy veldt]

The only weird rebrand in recent years ive seen has been twitter lol

I think coalition matches if they plan to close their studio after the franchise is complete

[errant raven]

What happened to doing meaningful shit in multiplayer or the campaign to get the skins

[shy veldt]

Oh went out the window once business execs got involved and said "hey lets do this"

[errant raven]

It's pretty disgusting

[shy veldt]

Once business people set their eyes on products and not works of art; games started becoming less about quality and more about quantity moved

and its worse when you look at upper management; usually very odd hiring patterns where somehow PMs from industries like car manufacturing and unrelated industries or other forms of leadership are working in gaming

[errant raven]

Did we really need another gears anyway tho

[shy veldt]

like clearly hired on by ref by another leadership/exec person and then they all treat it like a product and not art

we did lol the story gotta wrap up all the loose ends as creatively as possible

[errant raven]

They killed myrah, Marcus found his dad, locust threat was pretty much over even the lambent threat

Dom went out in a blaze of glory

[shy veldt]

Oh doms ending was solid

[errant raven]

A carmine finally didn't die

[shy veldt]

WE got a 4th carmine brother lol

[errant raven]

Does he die

[shy veldt]

I do not remember, I actually think he broke the curse his brothers had lol

[errant raven]

Then what the fuck

Clayton was supposed to be the one brother who didn't die

Shit was voted for by the community hosted by the epic devs

[shy veldt]

rip clay

[errant raven]

https://tenor.com/view/look-how-they-massacred-my-boy-godfather-sad-cry-hurt-gif-16433641

[shy veldt]

i remember that vote lol

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-marvel-decision-rebel-council-gif-5618300

[errant raven]

Epic honored that vote

Clayton did not die

[shy veldt]

wait he lived somehow?

[errant raven]

In 3, yes

[shy veldt]

Ope well they got posisbly 2 still alive not bad

50/50

[errant raven]

Smh telling me off about gears 4 when yall dont even know gears 3

The balls on these guys

[empty dune]

its been a while since ive played gears 1-4 lol

[errant raven]

It's been a while for me too and yet I remember

And I have bad memory

What gives chuckle nuts

https://tenor.com/view/gears-of-war-hug-lizzie-clayton-carmines-gif-19141985

[empty dune]

what can i say except ⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

[errant raven]

L1 r1 l2 r2 left up right down l1 r1 l2 r2 left up right down

Carmine brothers did have a 4th brother who I think was mentioned in gears 3. He was a civilian in one the survivor camps or some shit

Might've been benjamin who was talking about clayton in gears 2

That I do not remember

[summer cedar]

Yeeahhh, Space Engineers reminds me of Empyrion a bit too much.

Uninstalling. 😄

Ok, off to play Car Mechanic Simulator. I've put it off long enough.

[proud jay]

isn't space engineers older than empyrion

[summer cedar]

🤷

I played Empyrion a long time ago and almost forgot about it.

[broken sigil]

You all need to play Pacific Drive
It's so good, I love that game lol

[summer cedar]

I'd love to play it. I watched Splattercat playing it and loved it.

You should spam the game here with screenies, like I do.

J O I N MEEEEE!

👐

[broken sigil]

it's legit amazing

[proud jay]

why would I play pacific drive if I can drive my car irl instead

[summer cedar]

storms, lightning, zombie mannequins, etc.

can't get those in real life.

Well, can't get those to attack you actively in real life.

[broken sigil]

lol

[summer cedar]

I'll wait for the game to come on Game Pass. I am sure it will soon.

[proud jay]

but can you drive electric in pacific drive

[summer cedar]

Not sure. You can get zapped by electricity though.

[broken sigil]

yes

it's one of the later engines that you can unlock

I'm 20 hours in and I don't want to finish it 😆

• it has a pretty good soundtrack
  https://youtu.be/brTZXoxuzFc

[timber viper]

you just want me to not develop bp2cpp arent you

so i can waste time on silly games instead of earning money

[broken sigil]

YOU NEED TO PLAY IT

[timber viper]

you're so evil

[broken sigil]

it's easily one of the most unique games in recent years

[timber viper]

ok well this could be my first time seeing an excited BlueMan

maybe I'll buy it next week

all i know about is appearently there is a lgbt flag or something and it triggered some people at twitter so they're cancelling the game

other than that i know there is a car

thats all

[broken sigil]

I started watching a playthrough on YT, watched an hour.... stopped the video, went straight to Epic to buy it myself
I rarely do that lol

[broken sigil]

there are optional decals you can put on

[summer cedar]

Car Mechanic Simulator

When you have no idea what you're looking at... or doing.

😓

[timber viper]

wait lol so people got triggered by an optional thing?

[broken sigil]

that's twitter for you 😆

[timber viper]

seeing the rage, i was assuming it was something dictated by game or something

people must have eaten their brains at breakfast

[summer cedar]

If people are getting triggered by such things, there's something wrong with them. Reminds me of that Harry Potter nonsense. What was that game? Hogwarts.... yeah... Hogwarts Legacy.

But... 🤷

[timber viper]

there are two types of stupid groups, the ones like netflix who make black cleopatra and the ones like who rage over a flag at pacific drive

[summer cedar]

I wonder if I can launch this car into space, if I keep mashing the lift button enough.

[broken sigil]

YT isn't helping me 😆

[unborn lotus]

What about alan wake??

[broken sigil]

I finished it twice, I'm waiting for the DLC that's coming soon

[timber viper]

I just downloaded gears of war 4 and it doesnt even launch

baka microsoft

wasted my 73gb of download

[broken sigil]

@timber viper A short clip of a tiny portion of the chaos that the game has to offer 😆
https://youtu.be/UrqnDMbwLMs

[summer cedar]

Bad game!

It won't let me overfill the tank.

WHY?!!!! ✊

[timber viper]

im lost

whats happening

[broken sigil]

it's hard to explain 😆
Play it, you won't regret it

[proud jay]

If I wanted to see something this dark I would just turn off my monitor

[timber viper]

interesting, you wouldnt headbutt the wall until you pass out instead?

[broken sigil]

it's not always dark, has a full day cycle

[timber viper]

thats when you wake up in hospital

[proud jay]

hmm, I'll have to try that sometime

[timber viper]

i can recommend

its effective against anything with a minor death or brain trauma risk

but thats a no biggie

[median wraith]

the lesa dark nights Accessibility setting does nothing basically

[median wraith]

it let you fill the oil and battery in the garage

or. outside basically6

[summer cedar]

Yes, but you have ignored my demand to OVERfill it.

I want to splash oil everywhere.

It won't let me. 😢

[broken sigil]

I actually like how dark the nights are, adds to the immersion 😅

Eerie darkness (if that's the name) and dense fog are probably my favorite anomalies

[median wraith]

If you upgrade the car as I did you can fill x2 extra tanks of fuel in the baxkseats and other on top of the car that's about 300 extra liters

[summer cedar]

Aye. But, it won't spill on the floor.

It MUST SPILL!!!!!!!! 🛢️

[median wraith]

all is fun and that until I tried to go deep zone myself later

[broken sigil]

I'm getting there, it's the next mission

[median wraith]

another option is to fill the backseat with batteries and make the car electric powered

but tbh idk what the game didn't made a fuel generator

the levels provide fuel but no batteries

I placed 4 different power generators in the car and those generate a shit

wind, water, storms and solar didn't even generate a 0.1k per second

the car engine drains 0.25 per second

[median wraith]

first and second are fine, next time good luck...

The game says nowhere you need to collect all the spheres

neither tells you to on ny mission

plus they keep spawning

I skip only one of tier 1 on the trip and wasn't able to leave later

that isn't a proper design

[broken sigil]

Oh god lol
I haven't yet failed a run, wonder if I will be able to keep that going until the end lol

[summer cedar]

I think you're discussing a different game, Hevedy.

I was talking about Car Mechanic Simulator. I think you're talking about Pacific Drive.

The CLASH of GAMES!!

I broke Unity.

😄

[spiral sparrow]

Apparently it would be a better idea to just buy and download Unreal Tournament 04 and work from there

According to some guy on reddit

[proud jay]

nice dynamic shadows you got there

[proud jay]

better than what for what?

[spiral sparrow]

Using my kinda sketchy version of unreal engine 2 that barely works to make open source

[proud jay]

what are you doing in unreal 2 lol

[spiral sparrow]

Making it open source

If people still mod gold source I'm sure they wouldnt mind messing around in ue2

[proud jay]

that doesn't sound very legal

[spiral sparrow]

God fucking damnit

Well I'm aware of that

Was moreso thinking just like
Somehow decompile the engine and release that

[proud jay]

still not legal

[spiral sparrow]

But now that I think about it

Yeah

[proud jay]

it's like if you buy a book and type it over in word, you still can't sell copies of your thing

[spiral sparrow]

The copyright notice thing in the readme seemed to suggest otherwise but oh well

[fathom wadi]

also Unreal Engine 2 used external licensed tech which you would also not be able to use. That and it's what... a dx9 maximum engine? The tech is older than God now

[spiral sparrow]

Recreating it from the ground up?

Ah

Yeah no I'm out

[proud jay]

they should just make unreal 5 source available instead smh

[late solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotoritoken-kounotori-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676341

[proud jay]

very sus, I bought some coffee beans like 4 months ago, and they tasted average at best, so I left them to sit there, now made another cup of them and it actually tastes pretty good

[fathom wadi]

I think they should go back to the unreal 3 style again. Close the source, use unrealscript and charge people for access so we can make ureal development exclusive again ¬_¬

[proud jay]

make unreal pay to play again

[fathom wadi]

yeah eventually people will end up locked into the restrictive scripting style of UEFN and will make more money than us real coders :p

[proud jay]

just learn Rust and become the US president of coding

[fathom wadi]

I'm just gonna make enough money to pay other people to code for me. That or get some AI bot to do it.

[proud jay]

my plan is to convince an old rich dude to adopt me right before he dies

[fathom wadi]

I wonder how long it will be until there is an Unreal Engine specific AI for coding like a CoPilot derivative dedicated to UE

[proud jay]

if BM reads that message I give it 3 months tops

[fathom wadi]

speaking of getting to market. I have to write up a business plan this week. I hate doing that. Especially when it comes to the part you explain how you are going to make money. Because how TF do I know?

[proud jay]

well you should if you don't like starving

step 1: make thing
step 2: sell thing

step 3: see step 1

[fathom wadi]

I would like to think that would work but the last 3 games I released didn't make enough to cover living costs.

I have to. The social security are on my back about self employment. If I don't have a plan that they think makes sense, I will have to go work for free at one of their slave companies

[proud jay]

games are not profitable for most people I think

[proud jay]

easy fix, have you wife register a company, she hires you, boom, you're no longer self employed

[fathom wadi]

well thats what I'm doing but in reverse. I'm starting the company and hiring her as narrative writer and voice actress

[proud jay]

now you just need the money to pay her

[fathom wadi]

I do have a plan, its just the financial side of things I have to work out

[proud jay]

what kind of plan

[fathom wadi]

making a company that creates short games based on movies. Between 8-20 hours versions of various films.

[proud jay]

how are you gonna get the rights to the IPs

[fathom wadi]

apply for them. It's not hard really

[proud jay]

but will you get them though

and what do they want in return

[fathom wadi]

well that will define what games get made

I have a list ready to go start pitching

[proud jay]

there's also the question on dev time in this kind of case maybe, like if they wanna use it to promote a movie, the game shouldn't come out 4 years after the movie I guess