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empty dune
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The voice acting is superb

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The story itself is a bit eh though

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But the voice acting hard carries it

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Exploration is also actually pretty good

summer cedar
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Once you start flying, the game REALLY opens up.

empty dune
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Overall a decent package

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I haven't gotten flying yet

summer cedar
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Smack a flying thingie and enslave it.

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NAOW!

empty dune
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Ill have to find one

summer cedar
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Tell Ubi to sell you one for $1,000.

empty dune
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How about I just burn that money to accelerate global warming and bring closer my inevitable fate?

summer cedar
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Or buy a baguette to smack your PC.

empty dune
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I like my pc

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Also i just repaired it lmao

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Like, 3 days ago

summer cedar
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๐Ÿ‘€ which part?

empty dune
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Remember the electrical fire? Yeah

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That was my pc

summer cedar
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eeeep!

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๐Ÿ˜จ

pearl elk
summer cedar
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BG 3 got another update. They apparently improved save game compression and got rid of unnecessary summons stored therein.

pearl elk
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Whens UT getting an update ๐Ÿ˜›

fluid bloom
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in the year 3003

pearl elk
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UT3004

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I was thinkin bout it though, didnt Fortnite go the hell of the long way around to end up back where we started

soft night
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UT3006

pearl elk
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Na Pali Megascan pack

soft night
lyric ginkgo
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Hey guys, I'm wondering how you guys think the latest COD is doing their arms and body model. So in the newer CODs you are able to look at your feet. The game uses separate arm models to hold the gun to show the player. In this screenshot I was able to glitch the game to cause me to look at my own body. It looks like the model has no arms. From an artists perspective, is the arms and the body made separately? Or did they make one complete model that they can show to other players, but on the player's side, they render the body and arms separately? Im wondering because there can be a lot of different models and things the player can wear that can alter the look on their arms, so its a lot of work if I want to do that too. Any tips or good resources for me?

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Heres a screenshot with what looks like some LOD arms still attached? Not sure if its a glitch and its not supposed to be there or the player is just never meant to see it.

pearl elk
proud jay
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you have the full body one you show to other players

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and you have the one with the arms and lower body for first person

proud jay
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I miss CP2077 a little

pearl elk
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Thats Mirrors Edges FP rig

cursive crypt
pearl elk
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UT2077 will come out first ๐Ÿ˜›

proud jay
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haven't gamed at all last week

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very sad

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working again sucks

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so tired and empty by the time you get home

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cause you just have to wake up in the morning

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as if it's a normal thing

pearl elk
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admit it you couldnt face losing another game of chess

proud jay
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I don't think that's relevant

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but maybe true

pearl elk
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Speaking of I think my FP rig is a crazy amalgamation of 2 skeletal meshes

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I had to add a toggle just so I could filter components by view cuz it was getting annoying having TP and FP all displayed together

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And yes I know the arrow is unfortunately placed

proud jay
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nice ๐Ÿ“

pearl elk
pearl elk
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I cant wait for Cyberpunk on UE5

soft night
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think if the v jacket have electric effects like that

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you mean UEV

pearl elk
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shame they cant have Bill Paxton in it

soft night
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the V-corp owned engine

pearl elk
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only guy to be killed by a Terminator, Predator and an Alien

proud jay
pearl elk
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apart from, Lance Henriksen who is alittle old but aye if its a voice acting role

proud jay
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damn, bunch of people moving for it

After the release of the Phantom Liberty expansion, the core team responsible for Cyberpunk 2077 will move to Boston, USA, to establish a new hub of the North American CDPR branch. In 2024, the Boston team โ€” with help from the Vancouver and Warsaw crews โ€” are slated to start development on the sequel.

pearl elk
soft night
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i have seen some yeah

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monsy calamari seems the b is for build is doing something similar for the lambo hurican what was on barn

pearl elk
proud jay
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interesting

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probably a lot of work

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REDEngine really must be a mess to be worth the investment

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I really hope unreal gets some real competition though

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but unlikely

soft night
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or need some ovehauling

proud jay
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monopoly is never good and it's going more towards it

pearl elk
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If Microsoft put all their engine people together instead of having them all spread across lots of different companies

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They have about 10 engines too many lol

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Trouble with that sort of thing is it sounds great on paper but doesnt factor in team dynamics

soft night
pearl elk
proud jay
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ok this is hilarious lol

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unreal competing with discord

pearl elk
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No one chats on Epic Launcher, Discord clearly in the lead ๐Ÿ˜›

soft night
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bing thing list unity, amazon lumberyard, cryengine and nuke

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the last one is hilarious one too

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by bing chat suggestion description of that

pearl elk
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Isnt it called Copilot now, I thought MS rebranded Bing Chat

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or is that confusing because theres Copilot and Copilot chat ๐Ÿ˜›

fleet tangle
proud jay
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why is he using an AI voice though

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makes me not want to watch

pearl elk
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I think non-english speaker because the wording is questionable sometimes

proud jay
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youtube actually has auto translation these days

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idk how good it is though

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or what you need to do to qualify for it

pearl elk
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plus they might be wearing a mask through alot of this because most of this stuff is very toxic

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no gloves though ๐Ÿ˜น

proud jay
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well I wouldn't expect him to commentate live lol

fleet tangle
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I doubt they'd be doing live commentary even if they were doing it themselves. ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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and here we make a prototype matri... cough cough, slowly chokes to death

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I just imagine the robotic voice to have the accent of FPS Russia ๐Ÿ˜น

median wraith
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I love the random crashes at start the editor, restart and is gone

median wraith
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Still the best for my use case

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Will be a pain to update all my things and get them working tbh

pearl elk
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makes me wonder which multiple upscalers youre using since it doesnt come with any by default ๐Ÿ˜›

median wraith
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that and FSR

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but don't seems like FSR is doing any upscale but just rendering lower

pearl elk
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Probably just disable em in editor and enabled for cooked builds

median wraith
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all the plugins here are edited as are versions for 5.0 kinda

pearl elk
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I didnt find any performance benefit from running them in editor

median wraith
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cannot disable it on editor due internal calls on C++

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yeah I'm not using those on editor

pearl elk
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just remove plugins and only include em in cooked, whats the issue

median wraith
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you need to have a custom cs and uproject in order todo that and not gonna make those now tbh lol

pearl elk
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well if you keep getting crashes you know what to do

median wraith
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there is another internal engine crash due inputs so

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and idk why that one comes

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is just at opening the editor aswell

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and there is 3ยบ one randomly that appear at package telling me some random duplicated things

pearl elk
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I still get one which is like my GPU disconnecting randomly for a split second, I know Im not the only one who gets that though. tbh I think its a Windows issue thats why Epic hasnt fixed it

median wraith
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restart and works

pearl elk
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Thats why I moved to Win11 to see if it would fix that particular one

median wraith
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it worked ?

pearl elk
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no idea lol

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I havent ran my project much lately so we'll see. I had to RMA a monitor, wait on my new one, xmas, new job and catching up on gaming so we'll see

soft night
soft night
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This is BatWay

fluid bloom
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my poor minisplit can't cope anymore

cursive crypt
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Something weird here?

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Even 0.1 C precision is stretching it.

soft night
errant raven
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That looks fun

soft night
proud jay
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what you gonna use it for though

pearl elk
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measuring the warmth of my farts

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and hopefully the wetness too

errant raven
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What

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What

unborn lotus
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And air pressure?!

proud jay
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approx 1 bar

pearl elk
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naturally aspirated

errant raven
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Tfue played the astronaut in planet 51 perfectly

proud jay
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who knew they measured hands in credit cards

fleet tangle
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There's no way 3 is medium.

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I feel a TWSS coming on.

proud jay
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what is twss?

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are you saying 3 should be small or large?

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apparently I have large hands

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it's dutch

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but it's logitech chart

fleet tangle
proud jay
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idk why they decided this is the way to measure

fleet tangle
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Who is "they" ?

proud jay
fleet tangle
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Ah.

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I guess it's just an easy way to tell. I suppose more people have cards than rulers.

errant raven
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Europeans using marvel characters as a measuring unit

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Looks like Americans are proper using whales, busses, donuts, and oreos.

proud jay
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credit card is in the MCU?

errant raven
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Groot

proud jay
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that's just the dutch word for big/large lol

errant raven
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I know

proud jay
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The character's name is derived from either or both of two words: the Dutch groot, meaning big or great in size,[3] or the noun groot, meaning mud, soil or earth.[4] The origin of the noun, which is now obsolete except in dialect, was Old English.

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they stole it

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so you're just measuring heroes like a dutchman

errant raven
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What's the point in being a dutchman if I have no ones souls or booty to be hoarded

proud jay
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sounds like a you problem

errant raven
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Wait doesnt Klein also mean ugly

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Little hands = ugly hands

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The dutch like big hands confirmed

proud jay
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klein is small

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idk in what language it means ugly

unborn lotus
errant raven
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I had it mixed up with another word

proud jay
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lelijk?

errant raven
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Duolingo is gonna kidnap my brother for this

proud jay
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probably

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the owl is named Duo though

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not duolingo

errant raven
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It's not just the owl that sends threatsc

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The other characters give borderline manipulative texts

proud jay
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do the others show up outside of exercises?

errant raven
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Sometimes yes

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Notifications, I think some menu screens

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The goth chick is psycho

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How many times have you had to ask someone if they was an apple in the Netherlands/Belgium btw

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Asking for a bird

timber viper
errant raven
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You already gave up didnt you

timber viper
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Yesnt

errant raven
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Mayhaps you have a problem

timber viper
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Its called AIModule

errant raven
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I wouldn't have even bothered with ai

cursive crypt
errant raven
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Ion know

proud jay
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why would I ask someone if they are an apple?

cursive crypt
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Common courtesy dammit

errant raven
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Why would duo teach me how to ask someone if they're an apple then

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Huh huh. Spill the secrets

proud jay
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if they an apple what

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there's a verb missing

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if they have an apple?

errant raven
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Tf is a verb

proud jay
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why would you ever ask anyone it they're an apple

errant raven
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Idk why would duo teach it

proud jay
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I'm pretty sure if they respond the answer is no

proud jay
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are you sure you know how to read

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asking if they have an apple is realistic

errant raven
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Instead of teaching proper sentence structuring

proud jay
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whether they are an apple is just strange

errant raven
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No it says "Are you an apple?" In dutch and you're supposed to translate it

proud jay
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show proof

errant raven
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Then it asks if you're an apple and you're supposed to sayc "No, I am not an apple" in dutch

proud jay
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I don't believe you for some reason

empty dune
proud jay
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no

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neither am I dutch

empty dune
proud jay
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I don't think it's a problem really

unborn lotus
errant raven
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I cant find the screenshots I took of the weird stuff it taught

errant raven
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But here's something from reddit from the dutch course

empty dune
errant raven
proud jay
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wtf

unborn lotus
errant raven
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Replace apple with tulip then I'll redownload the app and take it seriously

empty dune
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cries and breaks up

proud jay
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that's ok, I'm not invested in Duolingo so I gain nothing from you reinstalling

errant raven
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I meant the owl

proud jay
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the owl speaks a bit of dutch

empty dune
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the dutch speaks a bit of owl

errant raven
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Just a touch

errant raven
empty dune
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i have no idea why but you cannot have pet owls

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here atleast

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which imo is stupid

errant raven
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Why settle for an owl when you can settle with a fucking vampire bat

empty dune
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im not looking for round 8 of covid thank you very much

errant raven
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You don't have to make a stew out of it

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Ffs

soft night
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ambulance you can build the bat house

proud jay
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an ambulance is for driving

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not building

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get your shit together

soft night
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the pon pon shit?

errant raven
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Ambulances build up one thing and one thing only

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That thing being medical debt

empty dune
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it reminds me of something dark and cursed

proud jay
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what's pon pon

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is that not the things the cheerleaders hold

errant raven
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Everyone's counting on me

empty dune
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thats a pom pom

errant raven
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To cheer them up and give them lots of energy

empty dune
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im scared to google but i think pon pon is a song

errant raven
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It is

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No

proud jay
errant raven
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It's pretty inappropriate

empty dune
errant raven
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Not just here but everywhere in the universe

empty dune
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AAAAAAH

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i found it

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help

errant raven
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Oh that one

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I unintentionally thought you meant that Nyanners parody

empty dune
errant raven
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Yeah that ones fine it's just the nyanners parody of it

empty dune
errant raven
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It's just a Japanese song

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The loli parody version by nyanners is the one that you're thinking of

median wraith
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This gone out of hands

slim atlas
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hi

proud jay
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where book?

proud jay
median wraith
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lol

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Qt on the launcher, batch files and such for script tools to build

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tbh idk whats considering haskell

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could be the custom expenstion I had for mod support

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C# for the Twitch tools

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yeah is taking my custopm JSON as haskell lmao

proud jay
median wraith
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I had the tool to convert translations files from UE4 prior 4.20 or so because the text came duplicated

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idk where is anymore, but technically now isn't needed

proud jay
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unreal translation system sucks imo

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when I was working with unreal I wrote a custom localization framework

median wraith
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yeah I used to make a simple file and post it on github, so people can contribute if want as some indies do

median wraith
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it was just a parser in C# todo the conversion in plain

median wraith
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Someone took my hevedy one on Instagram

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if that makes you feel better

summer cedar
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Off to ruin Hogwarts.

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They'll rue the day they admitted me into their ranks.

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โœŠ

proud jay
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time to learn avada kedavra

summer cedar
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No, I used the custom options. I like generic; generically deadly wizards.

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I hope he can get a refund on his fees, after he brings the school down.

summer cedar
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I hope Hogwarts has vase insurance. In the first three minutes of the game, I must've destroyed $10,000+ worth of vases. Love the wand work. ๐Ÿ™‚

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I propose replacing Boeing with Portkeys.

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Catago Firballa!

summer cedar
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This place shall burn. Elon, bring me my flamethrower!

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๐Ÿ”ฅ

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Oh wow!

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The Ravenclaw dormitory is beautiful!

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๐Ÿ˜

median wraith
summer cedar
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It is.

zinc matrix
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i thought Harry Potter were meant to children

median wraith
summer cedar
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Well, I am pretty sure children can't pay $10,000 in vase damages.

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OR use Reparo.

zinc matrix
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i remember watching the first movies with friends and we laugh a lot by re-watching the dubbed version

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in Portuguese

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but that was probably more than a decade ago

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fantasy stuff, edging teens/children age span, dubbed stuff in Portuguese usually feel likes comedy by their word choice

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what happened to JK.?

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she went LGBT+?

brittle holly
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She said something the trans community didnโ€™t like so she got cancelled

zinc matrix
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i see

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i wonder how much royalties she got from the last game

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net worth: ~ 1.2 billion

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so basically she can build a headquarter with straight HP fans somewhere at New Zealand

trail wedge
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even beyond the TERF stuff she just comes off as a miserable person.

Then again I don't really care about the author that much..... the Harry Potter franchise is just ok, it's not terrible but it's not amazing.

zinc matrix
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decade? i thought the LGBT bit was like, 3 or 5 years ago

zinc matrix
trail wedge
trail wedge
zinc matrix
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of course it's

trail wedge
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Harry Potter is better than Percy Jackson does that make you feel better

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both are kinda lame though

zinc matrix
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the series run on various releases about the same thing

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Scenes from a Marriage (Swedish: Scener ur ett รคktenskap) is a 1973 Swedish television miniseries written and directed by Ingmar Bergman. Over the course of six hour-long episodes, it explores the disintegration of the marriage between Marianne (Liv Ullmann), a divorce lawyer, and Johan (Erland Josephson), a psychology professor. The series span...

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25 minutes of this has more philosophy than the entire book HP collection, i bet

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and that's a budget movie

trail wedge
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yes but Harry Potter is a kid's book

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so who cares that it has no "philosophy"

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besides I'm glad it doesn't since JK seems like a pretty stupid person, not sure I wanna hear her "philosophy"

zinc matrix
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wow

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it's rated to +12 y/o

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i thought it was at least 16 or 18

trail wedge
zinc matrix
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books as well as movies

trail wedge
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both are targeting even younger

trail wedge
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I'd say 8-14 depending on the kid

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anyway anything under R means people under 17 can go in without a parent/adult

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so G and PG are basically the same thing

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PG-13 means they can curse once

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R means sex or graphic violence

zinc matrix
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well, i thought HP movies and books had violence, that's why i got surprised

trail wedge
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to get rated R you need to disembowel somebody or something equally as graphic

zinc matrix
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hmm

trail wedge
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is there even any blood? maybe a hanfull of scenes at most

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and those are in the later movies that got rated PG-13

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oh wait even those were rated PG haha

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the last movie finally got to PG-13

zinc matrix
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i think at the first or second movie, Voldemort literally craves a symbol at the brow of a kid

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wtf

trail wedge
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easier to do CGI when it's dark... why do you think it's always raining and night in modern moster movies ๐Ÿ˜›

trail wedge
zinc matrix
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i wouldn't get surprised of seeing Western popular shit

trail wedge
zinc matrix
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i think the culture is represent as a whole

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if a nation do this type of thing, the population also should be shitty?

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so as art

trail wedge
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umm ok

zinc matrix
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please, note that i don't hate everything

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but popular media is usually tied to what the population wants to see

trail wedge
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it's hard to take you seriously with those sorts of opinions tbh.. also hard to follow your broken English

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enjoy your day

summer cedar
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Pretty main hall. ๐Ÿ˜

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Or... I think its the entryway.

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I used it. But, being a magico-n00b, I can't do anything to the black mirror thingy I found.

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Yep.

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Ah, solved by talking to not-so-pretty girl standing in front of it.

zinc matrix
summer cedar
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@sand oxide It was such a cute puzzle. ๐Ÿ™‚

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I love it. ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
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maybe the gore isn't there but the concepts still are sick

trail wedge
zinc matrix
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i mean, i'm basing my opinion on what we have of scientific literature

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i never got into a fight at school nor later on, while since i was 7 i had a desktop at my bedroom with Unreal Tournament, Dungeon Siege and Age of Empires

zinc matrix
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doesn't effects everyone, but still is around 15-30% of people

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fragile is having a children suiciding with a gun on their parents house

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and violent media is correlated with depression

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it isn't about violent behavior; it's about aggression, depression, pro-sociality, anxiety

zinc matrix
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and cartoon violence still has effect

celest musk
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on whom

fleet tangle
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Everyone.

celest musk
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kinda true

fleet tangle
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Whether that effect is making somebody shoot themselves and their school or just mildly desensitising them is another matter.

fleet tangle
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If it's teh former, that person had serious mental health issues without the cartoon violence.

celest musk
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well if someone shoot themself and their school it affects even those who never watched cartoons

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so they affect everyone i guess

zinc matrix
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there's research pointing poor school grades just by having teens porting guns at school

proud jay
zinc matrix
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and general anxiety

summer cedar
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Seems like I have A LOT of reading to catch up on.

summer cedar
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Or I could just eat bread. Yeah.

zinc matrix
proud jay
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fuck yeah bread

zinc matrix
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and we chatting about a extreme point

celest musk
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a very much welcome topic in a lounge which is supposed to be a chill out area

zinc matrix
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there more stuff, like, having people acting less socially

celest musk
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go on twitter with your politic talks

unreal ether
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I say we focus more on bread

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Or cute animals

proud jay
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if you gonna shoot yourself or others based on media, there was something else wrong with you to begin with

celest musk
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and sammiches

zinc matrix
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sure, it's a game dev. area, which i think the demographic should be very aware of the problem

unreal ether
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I know what the game dev demographic should be aware of... red pandas

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Or bread, bread is also good

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But not seeded bread, it feels like I'm eating gravel.

soft night
celest musk
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if i had to pick i would eat red pandas and look at bread

zinc matrix
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yummy

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i heard milk from them is pretty taste too

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well, i think i found the setting for printing natural PLA key-caps

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they look so gross tho

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maybe i should use a sand-paper but i'll feel if they get smoother with usage

summer cedar
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Enough of Hogwarts for today.
I finished a couple of challenges, enabled many fast-travel waypoints, and collected a whole bunch of field study notes, and I haven't even attended a single class yet. ๐Ÿ˜„

proud jay
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maybe like one or two vanity keys

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but a full keyboard would just seem like shit to me

zinc matrix
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but i tweaking at my thumb-cluster...

proud jay
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what are you tweaking about it

zinc matrix
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trying to make a "ramp" there

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it's the CTRL and SHIFT

celest musk
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enough internet for today...

zinc matrix
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and by using Blender again some days ago, i noticed that isn't much ergonomic reaching the SHIFT key

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which is at the top

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and i use shift for zooming out/in with the middle mouse button, like, a lot

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and ctrl for pan...

trail wedge
# zinc matrix

Ergonomic keyboard... this is how I know you have bad opinions haha

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ok I took my jab... time to dip before I get a vegan lecture or something

zinc matrix
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no

cursive crypt
zinc matrix
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i'll hate you till the rest of my days

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Xero

trail wedge
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join the club

zinc matrix
trail wedge
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I dunno maybe

cursive crypt
trail wedge
zinc matrix
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violent...

zinc matrix
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lol

cursive crypt
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Boomers

zinc matrix
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way nicer

proud jay
proud jay
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my opinions are bad, but not because of the keyboard

trail wedge
proud jay
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when have you last pressed the scroll lock key

trail wedge
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zinc matrix
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maybe he's trying to get into the boat of cool minimalists kids

trail wedge
zinc matrix
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5 layers for typing something with a number and a special character

trail wedge
zinc matrix
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i have 84 keys

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how can that be minimalist?

proud jay
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damn that's a lot

zinc matrix
#

see?

proud jay
#

I have 58 and there's like 12 I barely use

trail wedge
#

you're missing keys

zinc matrix
#

i don't use a num-pad

proud jay
#

me neither

trail wedge
proud jay
#

I have a numpad layout on a layer though

trail wedge
#

Num pad is essential

zinc matrix
#

i think you are noob

proud jay
#

well I have one if I hold a button

trail wedge
# zinc matrix i think you are noob

Glad you told us... I'm at a loss as to why I'd care about your opinion since you barely speak english and you've had nothing but bad takes

zinc matrix
#

it takes right at my heart

proud jay
#

I think he pretty clearly does not

zinc matrix
#

that's the bless of being an illiterate

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i can interpret text the way i want

#

๐Ÿ˜‰

trail wedge
#

I see that explains your mecurial positions that don't make any sense when viewed hollistically

zinc matrix
#

omg

proud jay
#

see I have something pretty close to a numpad on a layer, just the 0 moved

zinc matrix
#

you are those good vibes which love pseudo-scientific stuff?

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"holistic approach"

trail wedge
#

I didn't even say the word approach

zinc matrix
#

almost 100 years of research on violence now and i can't see the whole?

#

anyway

trail wedge
#

No I'm saying your opinions shift and do not make sense when viewed as a whole

proud jay
#

who makes up these numbers

trail wedge
zinc matrix
#

Dieter, with 84 keys, look what i got with dedicated keys; โˆดโˆต, ยถยง, โ€กโ€ป

trail wedge
#

800% value

zinc matrix
#

and some pie-menus shortcuts and CC,CV stuff

zinc matrix
trail wedge
proud jay
#

why is there pie in your computer

zinc matrix
#

it's way easier to start a paragraph with ยถ than /n/n

proud jay
trail wedge
proud jay
#

there's this dedicated button to start new paragraphs

trail wedge
#

\r\n in Windows btw

zinc matrix
#

read thi discussion

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pretty neat

proud jay
#

I'd rather not

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there must be room for an enter key on 84 key I would hope

zinc matrix
#

but a whole paragraph of an idea, separated by ยถ, reads better than having blank lines in between

trail wedge
#

no see what you need to do is be a pro at typing and garbage at forming coherent sentences

proud jay
#

no it doesn't

#

soon you'll tell me you use vim

zinc matrix
#

i mean, i'm at page ~ 80 of my documentation at 14px

#

it's really useful for organizing stuff

zinc matrix
trail wedge
#

look at you go! you're almost as good at this as luqtas

#

now tell me implied violence is the same as shown violence

zinc matrix
proud jay
#

what's viloence

trail wedge
proud jay
#

lol

trail wedge
#

see Laura knows what it is

proud jay
zinc matrix
#

hehe

trail wedge
#

no see one illiterate guy who gets banned from chat over and over is gonna change the global common language... don't you guys see that

zinc matrix
#

maybe Chinese will take over

#

ๅฅฝ

proud jay
#

I don't think so

#

chinese is popular cause there's a lot of ethnic chinese people, english is popular cause it's global

zinc matrix
#

it's pretty easy to teach and has some appointments on dyslexia, for example

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which hit almost 30% of people

proud jay
#

% of chinese speakers outside of china and surrounding is very small

trail wedge
# zinc matrix maybe Chinese will take over

if you're going to propose a new lingua-fraca at least pick something like Spanish that even has a chance...

the world isn't going to switch to a language with thousands of characters and is tonal

zinc matrix
zinc wagon
#

Why are you bullying luqtas for not knowing English as a native would? ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
#

thanks, stranger

proud jay
zinc wagon
#

Btw I just got into this chat. I have zero context here

proud jay
#

lots of asia countries have high percentage of english speakers, so does africa in some parts, and of course don't forget about a whole other continent speaking english lol

zinc matrix
trail wedge
proud jay
#

you think everyone will become native chinese speaker over learning english as second language?

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this sounds a lot like you're 14

trail wedge
zinc matrix
#

i mean, a lingua-franca can also be a secondary language that people use to communicate outside their place

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not a day-to-day thing

proud jay
proud jay
#

so why the fuck you said it

zinc matrix
#

should = choose*

zinc wagon
#

I'm not sure what you mean?

zinc matrix
#

choose as*

#

hehe

#

anyway, i don't think a germanic like language is a good choice, despite it's being spread globally pretty well

proud jay
#

I don't think the world cares about your opinion

zinc matrix
#

neither of yours

#

we are just typing

#

lol

proud jay
#

why would it not be a good choice

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is it because your native language is not germanic?

zinc matrix
#

because its grammar is complex

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Chinese is way easier for example

lofty lark
#

whats the point of an easier-to-learn language if you never use it tho

proud jay
#

english grammar is really not complex at all

zinc matrix
#

guy you were raised in Europe, wtf

trail wedge
# zinc wagon Why are you bullying luqtas for not knowing English as a native would? ๐Ÿ˜„

Also not to shit on anybody's language skills but it's really hard to have a meaningful conversation when you're unsure if the other person can even read what you say.

Luqtas has been in here trying to give their (bad imo) takes on serious topics but it's almost impossible to parse what they say in response sometimes and it doesn't seem like they grasp what is being said sometimes.....

All in all, I personally woudn't talk about heavy stuff in a language where I am not nearly a native speaker (at least in text form since this is chat)

zinc matrix
#

do you know the context of people on developing countries

#

?

lofty lark
proud jay
#

you think developing countries implies simpler grammar?

zinc wagon
zinc matrix
#

i think if we start worrying about teaching a global language, a lot of hours on teaching may be cut by choosing something simpler or even artificial based, like Esperanto, for example

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and that can build up to million if not billion of USD on ed.

proud jay
#

esperanto makes no sense though

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it's like a dude thinking poland is gonna conquer the world and then call it a world language

zinc matrix
#

it was just an example

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the guy who created it was based on European ones..

proud jay
#

damn poland is not in europe anymore???

trail wedge
#

Keep in mind that the US speaks basically only English and they have no interest in changing any of that... become the new super power and maybe you can have a say in it

zinc wagon
trail wedge
#

they already told me they hate me forever

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
trail wedge
#

besides who cares they'll be banned again before you know it

zinc wagon
trail wedge
proud jay
zinc matrix
trail wedge
#

I don't know anything about this topic, that's why I think it's the solution

proud jay
#

if you give an example at least give a good one

zinc matrix
#

sure, go for it

proud jay
#

I don't know anything about chinese so I'm not trying to refute your claims on that

zinc matrix
#

type yours

proud jay
#

it's not that hard

trail wedge
#

or Klingon

zinc matrix
#

Arabic also has a grammar easier to teach

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by having less rules than English

trail wedge
proud jay
#

do you speak arabic or just talking out your ass?

trail wedge
#

...it's like talking to a particularly dense wall talking to this guy

zinc wagon
zinc matrix
#

i took a light read at what we were trying on teaching languages worldwide some years ago

proud jay
#

there's also already > 1 billion people speaking english as a second language, so good luck for any language to catch up

#

why do we not have a red panda emoji yet

lofty lark
#

shhh, im compiling

proud jay
#

so is my REST API

zinc matrix
#

yeah, i wasn't tripping out, Arabic is a candidate as a lingua-franca

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even Standard Chinese

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tho some languages aren't easy to teach if you are a native English speaker... but there's a lot of other people out there

trail wedge
#

do you think a lingua-franca gets "picked" or "chosen"???

That's not how anything works

zinc matrix
#

it's academics reflecting on the subject, not history

#

i don't what's your scope of prediction, but have to consider that we are here for around 300,000 years and we settled with agriculture around 14,000 years ago; the industrial revolution started at century 18 and so on

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not long ago, Latin was a lingua-franca

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but we hadn't conversation, nor linguistic science deciding/reflecting on that

empty dune
#

whats cooking peeps? for me its my brain

zinc wagon
#

Thanks now I'm hungry :(

trail wedge
#

who cares what language people speak after we're all dead

zinc matrix
#

yeah, let talk about Call of Duty

trail wedge
zinc matrix
#

"OFF TOPIC DISCUSSION"

#

the lounge go from illiterates discussing serious topics, red pandas and varied gifs

trail wedge
zinc matrix
#

just block me, please, then you don't have to worry about my bullshit

trail wedge
zinc matrix
#

nor about my half-baked english

trail wedge
#

here's a real question... why are you even here? I only see you post in lounge

zinc wagon
#

Thanks. I don't feel like eating now :)

lofty lark
zinc matrix
#

so i lurked around here years ago

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i went back to Discord as i had a problem with my .c file running the QMK framework and they had a community here

trail wedge
#

ok but what posses you to keep coming here if you're not on the server for anything related to Unreal anymore? that's what makes no sense to me

lofty lark
proud jay
#

I don't think anyone really chooses a lingua franca, it's pretty much the native language of whoever last conquered most of the world

trail wedge
proud jay
#

so there is not much use in saying which one would be better,it's a natural process

timber viper
#

luqtas was one of the major contributors of creepiness of lounge events at 2022 with his disgusting comments and backstory

zinc matrix
#

hi fan

timber viper
#

and since we have/had bad mods actions only taken 4-5 months later

#

idk why he's still allowed here

proud jay
#

I mean his second language since being back was "where is Laura?" so definitely a normal functioning human

timber viper
#

i recall he got a strike for going wildly nfsw and offensive

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then disappeared

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and lounge returned back to normal for a while

zinc matrix
#

i never posted anything nsfw

zinc wagon
zinc matrix
#

this was previously discussed, by the way

timber viper
zinc matrix
#

you are probably mistaking me with another person

lofty lark
#

if luqtas has been banned multiple times, wouldn't them being here count as ban evasion?

timber viper
#

he didnt get banned

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got striked once

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thats all

lofty lark
#

ah

timber viper
#

which is what I'm criticising

timber viper
#

he didnt get 1/10 of the attention compared to "noo ree offtopic at cpp"

zinc matrix
#

and i was striked because i was chatting about drugs in a educative way...

trail wedge
zinc matrix
#

but since it's pg-13, i got a strike

timber viper
#

I was given up at #lounge completely after some point

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so didnt visit here at all

zinc matrix
#

people don't know how to use block

lofty lark
#
my block
#

ez

zinc matrix
#

quasi

#

i think you can also use /mute

lofty lark
#

quasimoto?

zinc matrix
#

but maybe that's a IRC bit

zinc matrix
#

it translate "almost machine" at my native lang

lofty lark
#

A musical group apparently

zinc matrix
#

never heard

lofty lark
#

I had to look it up before typing it. I knew of the word but didn't know the meaning

proud jay
#

quasimodo is the hunchback of notre dame

timber viper
zinc matrix
#

complex terms turns me off...

proud jay
#

it's a name

zinc matrix
#

like water flows at culverts in cul-de-sacs

proud jay
#

not an english word

timber viper
#

i like her voice a lot lol

proud jay
timber viper
#

especially the intro

lofty lark
timber viper
#

nah i geniunely like her voice

#

suttokoso suttokoso suttokoso to to too

zinc matrix
#

T.T

proud jay
#

maybe if france ever gets their shit back together again

zinc matrix
#

hehe

#

i have no idea what's happening at the world

#

my life is about making tortillas, game dev. and 3D printing

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and skating, sometimes

timber viper
#

i wish everyone was speaking Turkish

zinc matrix
#

the only news i read is Hackaday and Hacker News (sometimes, as it's too technical)

timber viper
#

ottoman empire? ew

#

hell no

proud jay
#

those middle ages really were the shit

timber viper
#

no but who would want to live in Ottoman Empire unless you're in 1500

zinc wagon
#

You are probably the first person to say that

timber viper
#

ikr

#

I wouldnt like ottoman family coming back to rule though

lofty lark
#

My 4 years of "study" would be useful praisethesun
if I remembered any more than a bit of it that is

timber viper
#

lets make republic great again instead

zinc wagon
#

Maybe we should switch to arabic. Now that's a language that makes sense

proud jay
#

no or now?

proud jay
#

I could do french if they ditched the accents

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maybe drop the gendered stuff as well

#

ezpz

timber viper
#

its expressive af, but accent and alphabet turns me off

proud jay
#

(I know french, I just mean as a global thing)

zinc matrix
#

Portuguese has special rules for words that have "big" or "small" before them...

proud jay
#

idk any turkish so idk

zinc wagon
timber viper
#

unlike English "woman" word in Turkish has a great reputation and fame

#

it doesnt derive from man

#

it means someone who's mighty and valuable

proud jay
#

I don't think it does in most languages

#

can't think of any except english of the top of my head

zinc wagon
#

Wym?

timber viper
#

Latinese derived ones suffer from misogonism one way or another

empty dune
timber viper
zinc wagon
# timber viper except alphabet

Skill issue to be honest. ุฃ sounds like A sorta. ุจ is b and so on. We just have a unique one ุถ which can't be represented in English at least

proud jay
#

so what we're saying is dutch should become the new language?

#

if we make spelling FFA

empty dune
timber viper
zinc matrix
#

strong opinion

proud jay
#

my friend from tunisia actually types tunisian in latin alphabet and use numbers for non existing characters lol

zinc wagon
#

Alphabet <=> abjad

empty dune
#

oh wow, i scrolled down, there's a civil war going on here

zinc wagon
proud jay
#

yeah I have no clue wtf they are saying

#

not that I would know otherwise lol

#

cause I don't speak tunisian

zinc matrix
#

i forgot to answer this

proud jay
#

trust me I won't

empty dune
#

we are praying you wont start

timber viper
#

no one cares anyway

zinc wagon
#

Oh but vowels are represented. It's the same deal with french in a way where e is spelled differently then รจ

zinc matrix
#

but short story; she starts flirting i was dry and rude saying that i care about how you look and then i got hated

proud jay
#

what

empty dune
#

lmao what

proud jay
#

proof?

timber viper
#

how stupid someone can get

empty dune
#

laura flirting

zinc matrix
#

go back in chat

empty dune
#

impossible

proud jay
#

I somehow very much doubt that

empty dune
#

apparently you were flirting with luqtas, thats what he claims atleast

zinc matrix
#

it was basically over when i typed; what if you are ugly or something

#

and then i was cancelled

zinc wagon
#

Skill issue of you have a problem with that ๐Ÿ˜…

proud jay
#

but they have a group chat for north african employees, so it is indeed not unique to tunisia

#

can we get swedish

#

it's basically lazy dutch

#

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zinc wagon
#

This is truly a not a bug, but a feature.

zinc matrix
timber viper
#

fund me with laurahourlyrate's, I'll assemble them and make everyone speak Turkish

proud jay
#

I think english is older than swedish ๐Ÿค”

empty dune
zinc wagon
proud jay
zinc matrix
empty dune
#

no hits with the word ugly from that period with that context

#

stop lying

zinc matrix
#

or even 2020, as i started my game dev. 3 years ago

zinc matrix
#

how can you expect me to remember which words i used 3 years ago

empty dune
#

||i hate you||

#

oh btw

#

i wanted to show you something

zinc wagon
#

Maybe I'm biased but I think it's better to have that honestly. Does your native language have variations of the same letter? Maybe it's just one of those things that you just need to truly understand to appreciate

proud jay
#

I mean you can also just use different characters for it though

#

you implemented your native language?

#

into what

timber viper
#

Korean is easiest language for a Turkish speaker, I never understood why

#

i cant find it similar

zinc wagon
#

Oooooooh I understand the hate now. And that's fair haha

proud jay
#

maybe korean is just easy?

#

not that I would know

timber viper
#

not for an English speaker i think

#

korean is 1st, japanese is 2nd easiest for a Turkish

#

maybe because of particles

proud jay
#

well, the fact that it's a different alphabet is already a hurdle

zinc wagon
proud jay
#

while turkish people might already be used to multi alphabet

timber viper
#

its still Turkish flavoured arabic, we dont implement same grammar as Arabic

#

only some words

modern path
zinc wagon
#

Yeah typing proper Arabic is pain. That how you get reverse hexadecimal lol

proud jay
#

๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช

modern path
#

Dutch

empty dune
#

dammit, cant find it

proud jay
zinc wagon
proud jay
#

I had french cheatcode by my mom being french

modern path
proud jay
#

so I really don't know how hard it is to learn later

proud jay
timber viper
#

dieter vs guy from fallout new vegas

modern path
proud jay
#

well we are I guess from their point of view

modern path
#

Average Tactical shooter when Russians play it:

zinc wagon
#

If only keyboards weren't built only for English in mind...๐Ÿ˜”

timber viper
#

lmfao why do you hate each other you're all same

modern path
empty dune
proud jay
modern path
#

think about your actions

proud jay
#

it's love hate relation

timber viper
#

you have no rights to hate each other if you're european

#

you dont live in middle east

#

you have everything

proud jay
#

don't worry, we also hate the middle east

#

belgians also hate belgians btw

modern path
proud jay
#

complaining is our national sport

timber viper
#

middle easterns would die to live in belgium but also hate you back for this

zinc wagon
empty dune
#

czeck and slovak people want to know your location

#

serbia joined the chat

zinc wagon
proud jay
zinc wagon
timber viper
#

its terrible

proud jay
#

weren't you gonna move?

timber viper
timber viper
empty dune
timber viper
#

i'm trying

modern path
empty dune
#

man out of everything to complain about in starfield, this guy is complaining about texture tiling

#

i assumed as much tbh

proud jay
#

because your pet bear escaped? /s

zinc wagon
empty dune
#

it was unbearable

proud jay
#

at least move to a decent country

timber viper
#

and if you have a nice insurance company

#

and if you arent in LA/west

#

i have IRL friends living there, they're happy af

empty dune
timber viper
#

no

#

everyone has guns

#

yet arent happy

proud jay
#

I don't have a gun

empty dune
proud jay
#

no

timber viper
#

he's a belgian, why would he

empty dune
#

thats why you dont have a gun

proud jay
#

I never said that

empty dune
empty dune
zinc wagon
proud jay
#

hey, american nature seems pretty nice

timber viper
#

italy is fine, but people there arent into foreigners tbh

empty dune
#

whats left of it

proud jay
#

Italy is pretty poor though

timber viper
#

i dont think american culture sucks, its great if you're american and probably white

proud jay
#

so if you come from nothing, I wouldn't recommend

#

I think France would be a good bet, it's quite international and pretty good life standard

zinc wagon
noble hill
#

@spark trench wanted to ask in an off-topic channel: You also a sound designer in vancouver? Noticed based on your profile

proud jay
#

bonus points if you already speak french

#

downside is, you have live inbetween french people

timber viper
#

Islamaphobia there intimidates some Muslims I met around the world but idk if thats really a thing or they're making it up

empty dune
#

and have to eat baguettes

spark trench
proud jay
timber viper
#

figured, so it exists though?

proud jay
#

of course

#

it exists in a lot of places

timber viper
#

all French individuals I met were great people

#

so I found it difficult to believe when I heard it

proud jay
#

if you stick close to big cities it's less common though

spark trench
#

Haha it is!

noble hill
zinc wagon
proud jay
#

if you come from nothing though belgium is good choice, our social security is too good, but once you get on your feet get out cause the government will rob you blind

spark trench
spark trench
zinc wagon
# timber viper so I found it difficult to believe when I heard it

I think the main category of offenders are the older generations, the kind who lived through/just after the French occupation of Algeria. It would make sense cause they lived through the government propaganda of "all Arab people are bad and we are doing them a favour!"

proud jay
#

definitely

timber viper
#

that sounds like a sentence from hitler

proud jay
#

the younger and more urban the people the less it is present

zinc wagon
timber viper
#

independent from country any sentence claims a specific culture or people is bad and hurting them is a favor sounds like hitler

proud jay
#

there's haters everywhere though so I wouldn't let that hold me back

empty dune
#

i like how germany decided to pull an "uhm ackchually..." at the ICJ

zinc wagon
zinc wagon
timber viper
proud jay
timber viper
#

lmfao I like how adding blank space to a word changes everything

empty dune
timber viper
#

huh

#

what type of a game is that?

empty dune
#

there was even a method of uniting the entire world. It was a really involved and cumbersome process but at the end the world was a single country with new delhi as capital kek

empty dune
#

there's a mod for xcom called long war

timber viper
#

yes, a game where being 1m close to enemy gives you 30% chance of success

#

i promoted to particle

empty dune
#

those modders decided to make their own studio, and terra invicta is their first game

timber viper
#

to see if I am mishearing

#

didnt change it to something meaningful either way

empty dune
#

its basically a grand strategy politics + space combat simulator

timber viper
#

i.e. is genocidie possible

empty dune
#

you can send the planet into nuclear winter

multiple times

timber viper
#

nice

#

i hope its not expensive

empty dune
#

you can wipe out GDP of greece as a sport if you want

proud jay
#

I mean, greece does that by themselves tbh