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regal pecan
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Now you have me wondering if young athletes were dying in the early 1900s, back when cola was a medical tincture.

versed vector
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you're incapable of discussing the subject from a scientifically-informed position

fleet tangle
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Back when cola had cocaine in it.

dusk plaza
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They literally gave out free burger meals with every vaccine lmfao

unborn lotus
dusk plaza
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thats real, thats what happened with cigarettes, alcohol, various pharaceuticals

fleet tangle
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No doubt there will have been studies done that have been paid for - like the mmr jab study that linked it to autism, which had a tiny amount of research (like 6 kids) and was funded by the jab's competitor. The author of which has claimed it was all bogus.

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But to say that all studies are paid for and lying is a stretch.

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(when related to covid)

unborn lotus
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my personal favourite is that there's always bad weather on the weekends. it's so they do creepy tests outside and we can't see because we don't want to get wet or cold

regal pecan
fleet tangle
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Fighting so hard to get you jabbed? Probably because of opinions like that.

versed vector
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yes, paid research is a well-known thing that corporations, governments and individuals employ. But a critical review of available evidence is a hell of a lot more compelling than the 'let's wrap it up in conspiracy theories that makes me believe I know something the average person doesn't'. I'm sure that's a very comforting feeling for you to have but it's not reality.

dusk plaza
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In Australia they pinned people down in the goddamn streets to get the jab!

fleet tangle
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I can't believe that.

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That's one of those claims that will require a source.

versed vector
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COVID is a mutation of SARS...

unborn lotus
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but how did all the governments in the world decide on it at the same time?

dusk plaza
versed vector
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you really have a very loose grasp on what you're talking about. Yes. it is similar to the flu

fleet tangle
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It's not illegal for the government to persuade you to get vaccinated. Nor immoral.

versed vector
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but the neat thing is that viruses mutate and become much worse

regal pecan
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Or less worse, apparently.

dusk plaza
versed vector
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it happens with the flu, sometimes we have a much more dangerous strain and lots of older/immunocompromised people die

dusk plaza
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Thats Totalitarianism

unborn lotus
dusk plaza
fleet tangle
dusk plaza
unborn lotus
regal pecan
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What's the history of that image?

versed vector
# regal pecan Or less worse, apparently.

this is also true, it often doesn't make evolutionary sense for a virus to kill its host. It's 'purpose' is replication and killing the host is counter-productive

fleet tangle
dusk plaza
regal pecan
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1918 was a good time for masks and social distancing.

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I'm sorry I missed it.

versed vector
fleet tangle
unborn lotus
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some people survived both pandemics

unborn lotus
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oh no

dusk plaza
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Wdym oh no? Oh no because theres solid evidence?

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doctors getting fired because they dont want to lie

versed vector
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this is not research, jordan peterson is a psychologist and not a credible source of information

fleet tangle
dusk plaza
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thats a scientific fact

versed vector
regal pecan
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This is about the level of discourse I expected.

fleet tangle
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Jordan Peterson has some very persuasive talks.

dusk plaza
fleet tangle
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I mean, did he produce the email?

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Didn't see it in that video.

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If it was sent to so many doctors, surely someone must have leaked the actual email?

versed vector
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was he paid? is he actually a licensed physician still? is he a grifter?

fleet tangle
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How do you know that guy is even a doctor?

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Do you believe all the things you read on Facebook?

dusk plaza
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Talk about a lost cause, You people are the last generation ong

unborn lotus
fleet tangle
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I mean, the guy is on video talking to Jordan Peterson. Chances are he's an actor or a true believer.

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Because, as I mentioned, where's the email?

versed vector
fleet tangle
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Who's that radio show guy in America, makes money being an annoying arsehole. Republican guy. Shouts a lot?

regal pecan
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There's several of them.

unborn lotus
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propbably joe rogan

fleet tangle
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I'm sure there are.

versed vector
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ok well that's true, the main/popular one died though

fleet tangle
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No not him.

unborn lotus
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herman cain?

versed vector
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rush limbaugh?

regal pecan
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Limbaugh was the most famous one specific to radio. The new famous ones are all podcasts, not radio.

fleet tangle
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Of course the government does a lot of shit wrong, we're not naive.

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Secret black ops sites that aren't on American soil so they don't have to follow American laws are definitely a thing.

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Like the famous prison. I forget the name.

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The government is people. Rich people who do bad things to stay in power and make money.

regal pecan
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There were two of those, even.

unborn lotus
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did you ever visit a hospital during covid?

fleet tangle
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Bribing politicians is literally a legally ingrained part of American politics.

versed vector
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Yes, the government has to be watched closely. The funny thing is.... If you can't figure out what they are doing wrong because you're embroiled in nonsense conspiracies, you're not going to be capable of identifying where they are actually going wrong or hold them accountable.

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or alternatively...some conspiracies are rational and backed with verifiable information. Others are not.

regal pecan
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obligatory "you're not your"

fleet tangle
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Ah

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It's Alex Jones I was thinking of.

dusk plaza
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or just real great at parties

versed vector
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I'm rather astonshed that you aren't

versed vector
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and is trying to hide money away

fleet tangle
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Loved it when he was wearing the tinfoil hat.

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I would be, but it's just not a well rounded theory.

dusk plaza
fleet tangle
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I'm not convinced he's crazy or just crazy-to-make-money personality.

unborn lotus
fleet tangle
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Nah, they've fallen off.

dusk plaza
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Everytime the sun comes up

versed vector
regal pecan
fleet tangle
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I'd love to see those, lol.

regal pecan
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Huge budget for legal defense and he loses with a default judgement. HOW.

fleet tangle
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There's definitely some conspiracies that are correct. There's just so many that you'll never know which.

dusk plaza
fleet tangle
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And they're probably mostly unprovable (to be correct)

regal pecan
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Conspiracies and conspiracy theories are so rarely related it's surprising.

dusk plaza
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yeah to 10+

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JK I can also count in Russian and Spanish

fleet tangle
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Neat.

dusk plaza
fleet tangle
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I can do a few languages to 10 I think. Maybe 4-5.

regal pecan
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The US government recording internet metadata was probably the closest that a real conspiracy got to a conspiracy theory (e.g. the US government records is reading your e-mails).

dusk plaza
fleet tangle
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Yeah, I haven't bothered with languages for a long time.

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Except c++ 😂

dusk plaza
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Theres so many events that were recorded on national television that proved theories and shit that been buried to time that we will almost never hear about

fleet tangle
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MK Ultra was a great one.

versed vector
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that's the nice thing about having solid evidence with your claims

fleet tangle
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Makes you wonder what the government will release in another 50 years.

dusk plaza
regal pecan
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Searching for real conspiracies is about suspending your belief and searching for evidence. Conspiracy theories are about beliefs that rely on misinformation.

versed vector
regal pecan
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The next 50 years of releases will probably be dreadfully boring.

dusk plaza
regal pecan
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Experimenting on soldiers with LSD was definitely a high point.

fleet tangle
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Northwoods?

dusk plaza
fleet tangle
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Not at all.

bronze axle
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Hey folks. A reminder, especially when discussing sensitive subjects: Keep discussion civil and thoughtful. In general: Act in good faith, assume good faith in others, and be constructive.

versed vector
fleet tangle
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Basically if you see it on social media, it's almost certainly untrue or sensationalised and you should do your own research that isn't on social media.

regal pecan
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That's still ultimately doomed to failure if one is inclined to cherry pick what they choose as valid.

versed vector
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that's true, have to be willing to re-evalute based on the information.

fleet tangle
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You can be smart and deluded. Or smart and doing anything to stay relevant and popular.

versed vector
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'intellectually grounded' (he's actually mentally unstable and not a very good example of intellectual ability) does not mean they aren't capable of grifting. Jordan Peterson is trying to get paid. He's not special.

versed vector
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look into his history

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look into his claims

dusk plaza
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Thats not proof buddy

versed vector
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don't just take what he says as fact

fleet tangle
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He did a talk on mental instability and depression that I listened to once. Very good talk.

dusk plaza
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Show me solid edvidence to your out-oft-touch claims

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bro pulls up Reddit LMFAO gtfo

unborn lotus
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But is your room clean buddy??

versed vector
fleet tangle
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I don't remember the treatment.

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Was it being religious?

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I seem to remember him being the religious type.

versed vector
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no, voluntarily put into a coma to get through the benzo withdrawals

fleet tangle
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Oh. Well. That makes sense.

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That's what they do to crack addicts, isn't it?

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In some cases.

versed vector
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some

fleet tangle
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When their health insurance will cover it 😂

versed vector
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it's a rather extreme form of treatment

fleet tangle
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Oh America.

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I'm glad you're from Canada, Galva.

dusk plaza
fleet tangle
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Well shit. Apparently he got put into a coma in Russia.

fleet tangle
dusk plaza
dusk plaza
versed vector
unborn lotus
fleet tangle
versed vector
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seems like he has trouble following his own 'advice' 😏

fleet tangle
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I mean, I'm sure he has some great advice.

regal pecan
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If he has great advice, it's by accident.

fleet tangle
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But maybe his world view and personal beliefs should be scrutinised, like everyone else's.

versed vector
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some of it is solid, common sense stuff. Then he goes off on questionable tangents and tries to tie it all together with logical fallacies/purely emotion-driven conclusions.

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the problem is, you don't need to hear the solid, common sense stuff from peterson. Many (even most) people can give you the same advice.

fleet tangle
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Yeah.

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His real problem is that he's such a good orator. Easy to listen to and believe.

versed vector
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absolutely

regal pecan
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That's a good quality for a preacher.

dull raft
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god, I literally spent all day messing with ue5 without actually learning it proper yet. gonna do that in the morning 💙

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still, really happy with the things I learned so far about bringing models in from blender for game use

clear dust
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awesome to hear

dull raft
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yea! I wanna end up making a game where you play like this^, gn though

fleet tangle
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Looks like an anime I stopped watching recently.

dull raft
fleet tangle
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Ah. gotta luv muv luv! I watched Alternate this year. Was good, if a little confusing.

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Haven't played the games.

broken sigil
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Why is this track weirdly likeable 😆
https://youtu.be/4LxZxVrAN4c

fleet tangle
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The guy doing the 200 pages Q&A session comment on every episode was a godsend lol.

zinc matrix
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I just have a thought.

What if the fastest way to learn game dev (or anything exist), is try to avoid as much low level stuff that you don't necessary need to learn to make the final product. Then you got the final product, which gonna make some money, hopefully millions. Then, you use the money to hire a smarter guy than you, that know the low level stuff, and let him teach you. Because essentially, when we are learning anything, we all learned from a source, even it’s a really hand-holding source like an Udemy series or a very self-learning source like cplusplus.com. Being rich and have someone teach you is just simply giving yourself better sources to learn anything ever, and it's way faster. Imagine having a guy that know all the unreal engine source code, and you can request him to wrote a custom document about any topic for you at any time, 100% percent that would be faster than all the other learning method.

It could become a problem of getting used to learn from someone else, going the easy way in life. But in life, once you tried the hard way, even you try the easy way for a really long time, you can still come back to the hard way anytime.

fleet tangle
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What if the fastest way to learn game dev (or anything exist), is try to avoid as much low level stuff that you don't necessary need to learn to make the final product. Then you got the final product, which gonna make some money, hopefully millions. Then, you use the money to hire a smarter guy than you
Sounds like Star Citizen.

zinc matrix
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No, hiring people to work for you and to teach you is not the same thing. At once side, you are just a stupid high level manager.

brittle holly
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I think I’ve seen ChatGPT be less delusional

zinc matrix
dusk plaza
brittle holly
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The part where you made millions, but then again idk why I’m going down this rabbit hole

brittle holly
zinc matrix
brittle holly
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Sure, you have your dreams and hire people to make your games, but yeah good point I considered blocking rather than engaging but I guess we all make stupid decisions

zinc matrix
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I think the person always said something about making millions of dollar from game dev is just a matter of luck. Really envy mindset instead of thinking of how to be smart like them.

dusk plaza
unborn lotus
zinc matrix
zinc matrix
celest musk
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since you don't really know whom to trust

cursive crypt
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I accept money for free.

unborn lotus
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I only accept money if I get paid

fleet tangle
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If you get paid for accepting money, that might be construed as complicit.

pale scarab
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guys is it me or rockstar dont make games anymore? 🤔

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kinda sucks because they're kinda big and i love playin their games 😔

cursive crypt
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tbh, I haven't played a single game of theirs.

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However they are working on the next gta?

versed vector
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they made an unexpectedly huge amount of money off of GTA online and probably had to re-think their plans for the next one quite a bit

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also no reason to replace it when you're still raking in cash, made sense for them to sit back for a while

celest musk
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they made red dead redemption 2 tho

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which is also a pretty good game

unborn lotus
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Bet someone right now is crunching hard at rockstar

versed vector
celest musk
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October 26, 2018 apparently

versed vector
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RDR2 ^ ?

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the timeline in my brain was way off

cursive crypt
regal pecan
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World of Warcraft killed Blizzard. Rockstar isn't legendary for the same reasons, but history still repeats itself.

lucid sand
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guys guys

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what do i use for particle system again

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i heard one of u guys said do not use cascade for the latest unreal version

broken sigil
broken sigil
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jokes aside Niagara is what you wanna be using

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cascade is old

lucid sand
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i start learnign now 😄

broken sigil
lucid sand
lucid sand
dusk plaza
tulip orbit
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wow, surprisingly low amount of errors after compiling....

cursive crypt
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Wow, compiling.

zinc matrix
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hey how is everyone

soft night
fleet tangle
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I love how shit Okta is.

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"You need to Windows Hello configured to sign in" -> prompt opens -> can't be bothered to do that -> quit okta and restart verfication -> works fine.

clear dust
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This made me think of Kevin Kline in "In & Out" : "What a fabulous window treatment!"

median wraith
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lets see if someone know about this; last week a friend told me everyone that shares the same router/modem get recommneded content from other viewers in the same one despite they are using a different device, is this even true?
It happned with the same device, but never seen this on different ones

clear dust
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The results in my household seem consistent with this.

median wraith
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tbh cannot say the same, idk the reason xd

clear dust
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I mean all kinds of weird things seem to happen. Like recently a guest talked about pickleball and the next day YouTube started suggesting pickleball videos.

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It's worth noting we have Alexa devices active

pearl elk
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I saw you were searching for saddlery, would you like to see some more options?

median wraith
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Once we had a client in the office, talked about a material they were using, at come back to the computers we all have ads of that material

clear dust
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lol I have absolutely no doubt

median wraith
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I knew a person that had 2 of those in the same room, never liked that

clear dust
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I regret my decisions getting these things. But now household members are in love with them. The ones with screens are the worst, as they show you things that cannot be suppressed

fleet tangle
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Put something over it.

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Suppressed.

clear dust
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yeah I know, I meant it's kind of an all or nothing thing

median wraith
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mmm unsure, but I have seen someone doing that on the internet

pearl elk
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burn them with a flamethrower... supressed

median wraith
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you had to repeat the same 2 times or 3 because they don't catch song names and other things properly at times

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maybe they loss the conversation in between

clear dust
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I mean they are all connected, but sometimes the wrong one hears you, or takes action in the wrong room etc.

celest musk
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since it's subject to change, not really bound to an user/account etc.

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usually they use cookies and probably an abuse of local storage, browser fingerprint, etc.

clear dust
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NOOOO I heard about Perry last night but just learned Richard "Bull' Moll died...smh...

celest musk
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depending on which laws they have to bypass xD

fleet tangle
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Who?

celest musk
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advertisers nvm

clear dust
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Bull from Night Court

fleet tangle
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Still no idea.

clear dust
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I know, still no idea right

fleet tangle
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Did he die from repeated head injuries?

clear dust
deep glen
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I've been getting tips and tricks from some peers and trying my best applying what they are teaching me.
Up-tempo --fairly oldskool-- techno track:
https://soundcloud.com/as_yoesual/spork?si=68d414a7d31e4e7b9c68e918f8cdd80b&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
cc: @broken sigil

A rather old-school Up-tempo techno track with a catchy rhythm and hook.

Why the name Spork?
Isn't that the spoon fork? Yeah, it is.
It's also a small locality in Germany.

Any reason? No.

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proud jay
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I like the name

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big vibe though

river sable
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just watched the houdini 20 presentation, it's just a tiny bit impressive 🤏

empty dune
river sable
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at least 14.74% more impressive than that

median wraith
celest musk
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geometry nodes

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think of shaders but geometry

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which is also pretty neat

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but i've only used it to make procedural leaves with spline curves xD

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if you manage to solve the yandex captcha... xD

celest musk
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but that link wasn't from me

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that's just the russian version of google drive

median wraith
river sable
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blender geo tools are nice don't get me wrong but houdini has like 20 years head start in that regard, they don't really compare

median wraith
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either Houdini can be used by any small company or freelance given their license

river sable
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yeah their licensing is great, for the power you get indie is basically free

median wraith
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cannot be used by freelances

river sable
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hm? that's not true

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if you earn less than 100k you can use indie

median wraith
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Well, if you know any studio that hire you and they make less than 100k per year tell me

river sable
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ah, well yeah I'm just doing regular freelancing usually

median wraith
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because the license refers to the end users you are making the content for

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so you cannot

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also if you are a indie company and make less than 100k per year, thats a real business

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100k aka maybe 40k clear

river sable
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oh you're right actually

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well good thing I work for small businesses

celest musk
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they must be really smol

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if they make less than 100k

median wraith
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If you are in america and you don't even make 100k that's lost even if you are solo

river sable
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yes they are very small

median wraith
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a company here with 2 persons cannot make less than 100k tbh

river sable
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I'm in hiding

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can we please change the topic xd

median wraith
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each person paying the minimum by law cost 30k (in any job) EU Spain

river sable
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blender is amazing guys!

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let's talk about their geo nodes

versed vector
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my houdini evangelism is stirring

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the licensing server setup isn't a particularly nice introduction, I'll admit.

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it is worth it though, it just takes a bit to get through the initial 'what the **** is this?' stage

cursive crypt
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f exzpensive too for small fishes

broken sigil
versed vector
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it is. SideFX is pretty aggressive about keeping an eye on licensing. Even down to the HDAs themselves... Can't move them up in terms of license tier easily.

fleet tangle
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HDA?

versed vector
# fleet tangle HDA?

houdini digital asset, allows you to package up your houdini networks and bring them into unreal/other places with exposed parameters and things like that. It can be ridiculously powerful but isn't the most straighforward thing to get going. Easy to spend more time trying to get it to work than it would be to just do it with other means sometimes.

celest musk
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USD will fix all this

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it will be done in the year of the linux desktop

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so mark your calendar

river sable
# celest musk it will be done in the year of the linux desktop

Steam Machine was a series of small form factor gaming computers by Valve, designed to operate SteamOS to provide a game console-like experience. Several computer vendors were engaged with Valve to develop their own versions of Steam Machines for retail, offering additional options atop Valve's requirements such as dual-booting options with Micr...

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temporarily

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valve news network mentioned they might get revived iirc

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but that's speculation territory

median wraith
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First revealed back in 2020, Unreal Engine 5 promised next generation detail and lighting quality - and since then, the technology has only got better and better. Three years on, we're finally getting to play actual games using cutting-edge tech like Lumen, Nanite and virtual shadowmaps, so just how well is the engine shaping up in actual shippi...

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timber viper
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lets see how they reviewed

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I already see some gamers pinned UE as "stutter engine"

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Yesn't

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Its mostly PSO caching, and some lumen bugs

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They added the feature to fix PSO related one

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but never told how to enable and tweak it

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nope

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the one they documented doesnt fix everything

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its hidden somewhere in config

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they added the feature to fix PSO related one

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but never told how to enable to tweak it

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its hidden somewhere in config

versed vector
median wraith
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implementing DLSS and FSR2 wasn't as hard as expected

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despite I have to edit the engine still for extras but

soft night
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hevedy what about XeSS

broken sigil
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I mean since we are paying for UDN if that's the case I would think I would know more about it 😂

timber viper
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Especially when its damaging the image of the Unreal Engine

soft night
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the blue sparkle GPUs what have XeSS

median wraith
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maybe if the future I'm able to see it back 😅

timber viper
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I heard if you ask about issues about reinstancing, they ghost you

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to not acknowledge the fact its broken

median wraith
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I don't remember what I reported but found 3 issues on production, there should be 3 reports of me

timber viper
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I can have UDN too, someone at Epic told me he can give me 6 months of trial but I cant see any use of it yet

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even for bp2cpp I never needed it

broken sigil
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I still have access to UDN but don't really use it much, main reason is that it often takes them a good while to reply back

fleet tangle
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Clearly you don't pay enough, bm!

broken sigil
timber viper
timber viper
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beginner me was so hyped about udn but today I cant think of any reason to use UDN

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unless I'm doing some badass modifications on engine

timber viper
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like cooker or rendering internals

tall ledge
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when you're literally stuck on something too

soft night
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blue man when UDN want blue man to figure it out

tall ledge
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or obscure, low level bugs

broken sigil
timber viper
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I guess platform specific issues too Thonk

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since you cant discuss it much due to nda

broken sigil
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luckily I'm not touching consoles with 10 meter pole but yeah that would be a good use for it

tall ledge
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the back and forth about actors in sublevels not replicating after seamless travel bug took forever to get through

timber viper
tall ledge
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lots of cherrypicked CLs

broken sigil
timber viper
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replacing lumen alone requires at least half of your size, no? 😄

broken sigil
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well... we are doing a lot of ambitious things 😆

timber viper
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where is dat infinite money comes from sus

fleet tangle
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Why replace lumen?

timber viper
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not ambitious enough, duh

broken sigil
# fleet tangle Why replace lumen?

Because for our specific use case which I can't really talk about it sucks 😅
Its limitations start to be really painful to work around

tall ledge
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The Finals is using RTX GI instead of Lumen

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and that works on AMD and console somehow

timber viper
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I think AMD forced them

broken sigil
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I like nvidias "tech" department, marketing department is what sucks with nvidia

soft night
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so then other hand lumen is god sent compare to first hand lumen

tall ledge
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so the page for RTX GI say it supports any DXR-enabled GPU

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though who knows if they have a private fork to enable it for PS5 since that's a proprietary rendering API

broken sigil
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I've been meaning to play around with the rtxgi branch for a while

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just to test it out

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ah

soft night
median wraith
broken sigil
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Also seems like other engines are starting to implement tech like nanite
Alan wake 2 pretty much requires mesh shaders to run well which I'm suspecting they need it for nanite like tech

median wraith
broken sigil
median wraith
tall ledge
timber viper
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when this is useful on practice?

scarlet cedar
median wraith
timber viper
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oh, so vertexes of meshes change in runtime without LODs?

tall ledge
broken sigil
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nvm laura explained it already lol

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haven't checked if Nanite utilizes mesh shaders if available thinkies

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it would mase sense

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true

median wraith
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@broken sigil wait, so you guys are using a custom solution or what of GI

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wrong tag*

broken sigil
median wraith
#

Got a mate that made a pretty decent GI solution on UE4, is a mixed world between prebaked and non baked

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Isn't dynamic as lumen but it works on probes

broken sigil
#

I won't say Lumen isn't good, it is but it doesn't work well for every type of game or assets, scenary, etc...

timber viper
#

Interiors burn

fleet tangle
#

Lies and slander, BM!

median wraith
#

Not sure if you guys worked with it but last time wasn't possible; we got realtime GI but we still cannot change the Reflection probes in realtime right ? sweeney_activate

broken sigil
median wraith
#

that can open a world of possibilities

broken sigil
median wraith
#

yeah... wish those worked outside of Lumen with the old way

broken sigil
#

Fun fact but integrating another GI solution into UE has been made a tiny bit easier, there are global illumination "plugins" so it's entirely doable without modifying the engine source

median wraith
#

you mean from the marketplace of Nvidia one ?

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not all shaders were accesible from plugins still, right ? or they are now

broken sigil
median wraith
#

ohhh

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GI Plugins MegaJam

broken sigil
#

😅

scarlet cedar
broken sigil
scarlet cedar
#

Everything should be a plugin

#

Does anyone know how Ark's SDK works? I want to learn more about UGC but I'm pretty sure I read ages ago that the UGC sample from epic is broken/outdated. Is the SDK just a modified UGC thing?

versed vector
fleet tangle
#

Assuming the brains are in the head is pretty speciest.

versed vector
#

these are in a $15 pack of morph targets for the mesh morpher plugin and I thought more people needed to see them

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this is the path that human evolution will follow

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highly optimized mouth structure

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maybe the cause of the dead eyes too

fleet tangle
#

Assuming they breathe... and assuming they breathe through their faces.

versed vector
#

powerful necks

pale scarab
#

Yuck 🤮 I hate beansprout, those sneaky lil vegs pretending to be noodles and make it all crunchy and NOT delicious

#

They need to stop adding them

fleet tangle
#

Lol

timber viper
#

I will be so satisfied when I eliminate the ParmsMemory thing from bp2cpp

fleet tangle
#

They need better names

timber viper
stone maple
#

🅱️

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i saw rumours that state of decay 3 wont release until 2027

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they released a trailer for it in 2020, why would they do this

cursive crypt
#

Iunno, hack them mr.robot

pearl elk
#

the state of development decayed

timber viper
#

@sand oxide

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I bet you didnt see this red panda octopus photo before

fleet tangle
#

Red panda or fox?

timber viper
#

hm

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shit

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its a fox

fleet tangle
#

Lol

brittle holly
#

lol

fleet tangle
#

Close relative.

brittle holly
#

Eren with the fake pandas

cursive crypt
#

The AI image recognition got confused.

broken sigil
pearl elk
#

As long as a piece of string

timber viper
#

at least as default value in compiler

broken sigil
#

Did you find that limit by running into it? 😆

timber viper
#

I was feeling I was about to when I reach to ~500

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so I had to check

#

Some class names and var names are created by BP assets path name

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lol

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first time having this

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not sure if I should be ashamed or be proud

broken sigil
#

lol

empty dune
timber viper
#

This all happens because some dumb engine function serialized its parameter as UObject* to bytecode but takes UEnum* in reality

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And I need a source build to see how its handled

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I guess I found a perfect excuse to not work today

empty dune
timber viper
broken sigil
timber viper
#

But they told me asking 50k is too much

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Not because bp2cpp isnt worth it but MegaGrants isnt for this case

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So I will try nevertheless

#

If MegaGrants doesnt work, marketplace plugin

timber viper
#

But amount of money I am asking and the fact I already finished most of the implementations reduces my likekyhood of receiving the grants

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Then there is another case like asking for a lesser amount and still releasing on marketplace but for lesser price

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Which I guess Epic is more into the idea

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But ideally I would like Epic to sponsor the plugin and literally everyone from indies to giant corpos use it for free because I like it more when people can benefit from it for free

timber viper
#

So I can continue making more open source or MP plugins next year without worrying about my income

unborn lotus
#

I imagine you'd make more than 50k with the MP

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Over 2+ years

timber viper
broken sigil
timber viper
#

I wanted 75k first

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They said ask lesser than 25k

broken sigil
#

75k would be reasonable imo

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considering the work put into it

timber viper
#

They dont pay 75k directly

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You have to break into 25k

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Each 25k is a milestone

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Epic only wants to pay if you need to finish something but you arent able to

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So thats why they say ask for 25k

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Then after you release apply again for another

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But then there is no guarantee of more than 25k

broken sigil
#

ah, never applied for a megagrant so no clue how they work lol

timber viper
#

Nothing holding me from applying even for 500k xD they say its completely normal everytime

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But just add "dont whine if you get rejected" later on

broken sigil
#

If they agreed with 50K I personally might have accepted that

Reasoning being that the marketplace is super oversaturated right now
I think my plugins did as well as they did back in 2016-2017 because the marketplace was pretty empty back then and it was able to stay on the front page for a long time

timber viper
#

They didnt agree on anything, just the people I spoke with Epic specialized on this case gave me a long talk about this

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Since we met in IRL I managed to get special attention for a while

broken sigil
#

yeah, just saying what my opinion would be if they agreed on that

timber viper
#

Biggest down side of MP is dumb people

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And arrogant ones that arent dumb

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Even though market is satured bp2cpp doesnt have any rivals (yet)

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And its target auidence is everyone who use BP

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So I am not worrying about that much

broken sigil
#

or the stalker type, even better

timber viper
#

Stalker type?

zinc matrix
#

50 grand? what you gonna buy with that?

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that's some money

timber viper
broken sigil
timber viper
broken sigil
pearl elk
#

cmon now, devs dont eat

unborn lotus
#

Instant ramen?

zinc matrix
timber viper
#

In Turkey

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Thanks Erdogan

pearl elk
#

Thats an expensive kebab

broken sigil
#

wait wrong plot line

timber viper
zinc matrix
timber viper
zinc matrix
#

so i only need 5k to live a luxury life

unborn lotus
broken sigil
zinc matrix
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i could never see any scenario where i could get 50k in the near future xd

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imagine all the great things, games you could buy with that

pearl elk
broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

gl to you on getting that money 50k eren

zinc matrix
timber viper
unborn lotus
timber viper
#

Considering I already have a 70% finished project with a vertical slice

zinc matrix
#

low budget indie scam is art.

broken sigil
timber viper
#

20k is a competent tech artist's 3 months of salary

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You can do a lot with it without scamming people

timber viper
broken sigil
zinc matrix
broken sigil
pearl elk
#

Online test_9 is my most played game

timber viper
#

My games name is Maidbot Vanguards

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2b's from nier automata fight enemy hordes

broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

on paper it worked, that what i mean

timber viper
#

I can imagine the day I have millions

zinc matrix
#

what is it then xd

timber viper
#

Depression would hit me so hard

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Nothing to achieve further

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Almost everything I am interested can be achievable

zinc matrix
timber viper
#

Nothing to do interesting

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I guess I would rot on my bed by watching anime

zinc matrix
timber viper
#

I would visit every country I can probably, until I get bored of traveling

broken sigil
timber viper
#

Which I would

timber viper
#

BM already secretly learning laurahourlyrates

zinc matrix
broken sigil
# broken sigil That was my first serious hobby project, currently collecting dust since I got a...

Actually some YT-ers played it 😆
Admittedly the first broken version I released, there was a better version later lol
https://youtu.be/zpsF_GR9HfY?t=288

I AM THE MASTER DEATH RACER MWUAHAHA... not really but this game is beutiful, from a 16 year old game developer who has used the unreal engine to create a truely stunning game! if this is what hes making now I cant wait to see what comes from him in the future.

Follow me on Twitch for my gaming streams:
http://www.twitch.tv/...

▶ Play video
timber viper
#

I might learn compiler development properly and do it as hobby though

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Would keep me alive for a while

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But I wont ever get millionarie anytime soon

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Im not u sadly

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I wish I could earn 3 mil from my highly polished multiplayer co op game

zinc matrix
#

you sound like a very technical person, like The Cherno where he rather make a game engine than an actual game

broken sigil
#

seeing these old videos makes me want to get back to working on it so bad

broken sigil
# zinc matrix profit

I honestly have no clue, I would expect minimum of 100-200k of profit to consider it a success BillieShrug

zinc matrix
#

but i feel like the market for racing games is full of AAA games already, and because the nature of that genre, you cant really add anymore plot in

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it's just cars racing each other

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but that game of you look very polish though. I think you can add a plot and scam for ez 100k

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If you could manage to think of any plot..

broken sigil
# zinc matrix ayo that's not bad, even though cars look a bit slow, like no motion feel

yeah, it needs narrower FOV to get that sense of speed
And these vehicles are gigantic, like 10-15 meters in length which isn't really obvious from the video but it affects the sense of speed

Has a lot of flaws but still, was my first ever serious project back in 2015-2017 ish
If I returned now to it I would keep the models and maps and redo all the logic, could do it so much better now

Wasn't really planning on story back then but more like just fun races and was planning on adding multiplayer

zinc matrix
#

well, gl if you ever attemp

broken sigil
#

right now alongside my full time job (engine tools programmer) it's pretty much impossible since I don't have time

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maybe some day in the future

#

I first somehow need to revive it from 4.14 or something like that up to a modern version 😂

empty dune
unborn lotus
empty dune
zinc matrix
broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

somtimes i feel like hard work people tend to not getting rich, somehow

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like i watch this, and this guy just do marketing, creative shit all day 😂

broken sigil
empty dune
#

Only person getting rich from these videos is the guy who made it

empty dune
zinc matrix
#

just looking around for fun, not really for learning. But you must agree that those guys are rich af

empty dune
#

How do you know?

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Did you check out their tax returns or income filings?

zinc matrix
empty dune
#

Ah, ofcourse

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Cant rent cars for youtube videos

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Like literally every Instagram grifter does

broken sigil
broken sigil
#

soon™️

unborn lotus
broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

that's just investment, it's a different kind of rich, i am more like hard work, start own company rich

clear dust
#

🍿

zinc matrix
#

most of people on the internet that talk about how to be rich is like investors lol

broken sigil
unborn lotus
#

Itd be cool if they would give grants when you start a project not close to finish. I'd have dozens of them by now 🥁

zinc matrix
#

1 year ago i didn't even know what is an ide

broken sigil
timber viper
#

I hate the fact I born into a generation where houses are expensive

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I FUCKING HATE THIS

#

Having a liveable shelter shouldnt be this difficult

unborn lotus
#

so far

zinc matrix
#

we need thanos

unborn lotus
#

10 years from now you won't find anything under 1 mil

zinc matrix
#

or hitler

unborn lotus
#

Like in new zealand

broken sigil
celest musk
#

you have to obey the rules they made up which they didn't obey themselfs

#

they are heating with oil/gas while forcing you to use renewable energy, on the long term you may safe money tho

empty dune
# timber viper yes

Id assume you atleast need to be in the demo stage for them to seriously consider you though?

broken sigil
fluid bloom
#

my parent's house was like 50k euros but the interest rates back then were like 16 to 20% 😅

timber viper
empty dune
#

Yeah makes sense

fluid bloom
timber viper
empty dune
#

I shee

#

50% feature completion?

timber viper
unborn lotus
#

Technically you can buy a house for peanuts in an half abandoned village or town

empty dune
#

Makes sense

timber viper
#

nothing stops you from applying at 0% too but they reject in 3 days usually

zinc matrix
timber viper
#

unless you're an insanely known individual or a very generous open source company like blender

empty dune
#

Yeah you can make absurd applications, that's a given

timber viper
#

then they grant you before you apply

#

and they also grant individuals just because they are popular too

empty dune
#

Lmao

#

Amazing

broken sigil
timber viper
#

but still burn

timber viper
#

arent we 8 billion+ now

unborn lotus
empty dune
#

Idk about that, sounds weird. On one hand its more or less guaranteed success to bet behind a proven individual. But on the other hand it feels unfair given mega grants are supposed to be for those who can't otherwise afford it

zinc matrix
unborn lotus
# broken sigil damn lol

We have manor houses that belonged to local boyars which are amazing architecturally but are in ruins usually lol

broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

how large is 3000sqm though? how many football stadium i can build with that

unborn lotus
timber viper
#

somewhere like this is 400k USD in Turkey

timber viper
#

in most popular vacation area

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with pool

empty dune
empty dune
# broken sigil

Ah, the football field, universal standard metric for distance

broken sigil
empty dune
#

Burger works too

unborn lotus
#

There was a property for sale here near a big city, on top of a hill, something like 8000sqm of orchards and field, a river crossed it. Looked great, only 80k

zinc matrix
#

half a football field, thats not very large

empty dune
unborn lotus
zinc matrix
#

i mean if i was building the hunger game arena

broken sigil
# empty dune Burger works too

or if I'm dealing with millimeters I use fingernail thickness (I wish I was joking and didn't do this in school when I forgot my rulers...)

zinc matrix
#

or something nuts

empty dune
#

Oh right, forgot we were talking about Delusionistan

unborn lotus
#

I would get a 200sqm field and build a tiny tiny house with 2 or 3 stories...thats plenty to live

zinc matrix
empty dune
empty dune
empty dune
zinc matrix
#

what is Delusionistan though

empty dune
#

Its winter okay? Its normal

broken sigil
zinc matrix
broken sigil
empty dune
#

Delusionistan is a pathway to many powers some consider...... Unnatural

zinc matrix
#

you mean imagination?

empty dune
#

Spicy imagination

zinc matrix
#

who are we without sSpicy imagination?

broken sigil
empty dune
timber viper
#

@empty dune when ME1 gets interesting

#

still no genocidies

#

no opportunities of war crimes

empty dune
#

Idk if i have the Laura approval to talk about those

timber viper
#

hm

#

fair

#

laura approval is important

empty dune
#

She might fine me for bad aerodynamic car features

broken sigil
timber viper
timber viper
#

we should collectively bully you

empty dune
#

I support

timber viper
#

I cant

#

when I want to

empty dune
#

Ok

timber viper
#

he's too friendly and helpful

empty dune
broken sigil
timber viper
broken sigil
empty dune
unborn lotus
empty dune
empty dune
broken sigil
empty dune
#

Bij

timber viper
#

and just started

broken sigil
#

ME is a great game

timber viper
#

Terrible controllers and UX

#

otherwise its pretty good

#

storytelling is great

unborn lotus
#

It is pretty outdated

broken sigil
#

Speaking great games.... I wanna play shadow of the colossus remaster so bad, it's my childhood game 🥲
But kinda don't wanna get ps5 for a single game lol

timber viper
#

I am just whining about EA didnt properly make a remake

broken sigil
empty dune
#

You play ME only and i repeat, only for the depression it gives you

timber viper
#

its re-released on 2021 in the end

strong glacier
empty dune
#

ME is not a good game technically

#

But the depression it gives you is unparalleled

broken sigil
# broken sigil Speaking great games.... I wanna play shadow of the colossus remaster so bad, it...

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/shadow-of-the-colossus-ps4/

Watch the evolution of SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS from PS2 to PS3 and see how it's been rebuilt from the ground up for PS4. Available February 6, 2018. Pre-order Now!

©2017 Sony Interactive Entertainment Inc. SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS is a trademark of Sony Interactive Entertainment ...

▶ Play video
zinc matrix
#

what have game dev become

broken sigil
#

shadow of the colossus to me is one of the best games ever made, so unique

timber viper
broken sigil
timber viper
#

I barely get affected by things

#

Its also reason why I like animes because they manage to touch me sometimes

empty dune
empty dune
#

Its a long journey and i believe that is part of what makes it so special

timber viper
#

I guess I get the overall idea

empty dune
#

All those characters become so integral to you

timber viper
#

It should be similar to Witcher regarding to story progress

#

Characters and relationships matter

#

so the decisions

#

and its another "one man matters a lot" case, where that man is the MC

empty dune
#

Yeah, its much more intimate than witcher though

#

You'll care even about the random minor npcs

#

Its really just one giant game

timber viper
#

will I? Hehe

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or will I let them die slowly

empty dune
zinc matrix
#

the witcher is weird

broken sigil
timber viper
empty dune
timber viper
#

When Laura be cautious about spoilers it means something

empty dune
#

Lol

timber viper
#

withcer 3 was one of the rare games I felt attached

#

if you didnt get anything from witcher you dont know how to consume media

empty dune
#

I still remember my first play of me. I actually started with me3, without knowing anything about the lore. 30 min is all it took to get me weeping

zinc matrix
#

maybe i should try me

empty dune
#

Me3 has one of the most gut punching tutorials ive ever seen

zinc matrix
#

the witcher is too easy for me

#

im more playing for the gameplay

#

not the story

timber viper
#

you play to feel like witcher though

zinc matrix
broken sigil
#

Me and Eren played TF2 full 2 times before Eren abandoned me 🥲

timber viper
#

it was so fucking epic try saving ciri

timber viper
#

you managed to adapt to that game

#

I couldnt

#

i cant even aim anymore

#

elo got increased

#

when someone see me I die instantly

zinc matrix
#

feel like the witcher

#

continue to back handed sword

timber viper
#

series are bad in that regard

#

you more like watch a cautious and emotionless witcher

#

but in games the world and storytelling is beyong great

zinc matrix
#

but in the game you are also immortal

#

so there is no consequense of dying

timber viper
#

you arent

#

you're too weak in fact

empty dune
#

You're not immortal what

broken sigil
timber viper
#

lol if you get the bad ending on witcher 3

#

you need a therapist

#

I get the best ending because I knew it would lead to consequences

empty dune
zinc matrix
zinc matrix
#

instant kill

#

the tree thing

timber viper
#

i dont even remember

#

its been a while

empty dune
#

He's talking about the lich

timber viper
#

too many monsters to remember about

broken sigil
# timber viper you're an alien

tbf Fortnite has tuned my aim into an aimbot 😆
Before fortnite I absolutely sucked in any competitive shooter but I grinded fortnite and later Apex for thousands of hours 😅

timber viper
#

i never saw lich

#

ah

#

this thing

empty dune
#

Oh this. Yeah you aren't even out of act 1 of act 1 lmao

timber viper
#

what was the name of the old ladies

timber viper
#

that cursing the village

empty dune
#

Crones

zinc matrix
#

i just spend most of my 40 hours doing side quest

timber viper
#

crone story is also damn good

zinc matrix
#

wtf is my gameplay

timber viper
#

they're so fucking powerful

#

you're literally a weakling compared to them

#

you comeback real good after with ||ciri|| though Hehe

empty dune
timber viper
#

On my progress ||I slayed them with ciri||

empty dune
#

Good, it means you're not a psychopath lmao

timber viper
#

||ciri became witcher||

empty dune
#

You need to fuck up real real bad to get the bad ending

timber viper
#

Well, no, I got so damn attached to the game back at the day

#

I couldnt ever go bad route

#

I did everything perfectly for ||ciri and yennefer||

empty dune
broken sigil
#

Witcher is a really good game, I enjoyed it but it's so damn long
I don't think I ever finished any of the witcher games

timber viper
#

what happens to ||crones that geralt kills them for ciri though?||

empty dune
#

||Stays dead||

timber viper
#

but in my progress ||we killed them BEFORE we do that mission with ciri||

#

where exactly do you fuck up to NOT do that?

empty dune
#

Did you get the

||"Who taught you to fight like that?"

"The witcher you slew"||

Conversation?

timber viper
#

how did you manage to ||make ciri that disappointed|| that she didnt do that with you lol

timber viper
#

but not the context itself

timber viper
broken sigil
empty dune
timber viper
#

i remember now

#

that was so epic

#

i was watching that scene with so much excitement

empty dune
#

Ikr

broken sigil
empty dune
#

That igni afterwards was just 👌

empty dune
broken sigil
empty dune
#

Literal heresy

broken sigil
empty dune
#

Pfist please ban BM

empty dune
#

I will give you 2 cookies

broken sigil
timber viper
timber viper
broken sigil
#

trying to remember what other game I wasted time on

empty dune
#

Yep

timber viper
#

the attention to detail

timber viper
#

these days I am wasting my life on this

broken sigil
empty dune
celest musk
#

thats what you said about every minute in rocket league, too

empty dune
timber viper
empty dune
#

Kek

timber viper
#

he even played gwent with ||the satan himself||

broken sigil
timber viper
#

when he was searching for ||yennefer||

#

he met the ||devil from DLC||

empty dune
#

Yeah i know lol

timber viper
#

someone stop me

#

I can talk about witcher for a week

empty dune
#

You're going to loooove mass effect lol

broken sigil
#

holy crap just remembered worms, not specifically these but 3d ones on PS2, that was so fun

empty dune
#

Just don't be like that idiot friend I once had and skip the dialogue

timber viper
#

I cant

#

it doesnt let me

empty dune
#

You can

#

Esc or space bar

empty dune
#

I mean obviously, who the fuck plays mass effect for its mechanics??

broken sigil
# broken sigil holy crap just remembered worms, not specifically these but 3d ones on PS2, that...

Me and my family used to sit down every night and play this
https://youtu.be/o3Ch4BgT-i4?t=237

Worms 3D gameplay for the Playstation 2.
Played on the original console and recorded with Elgato Game Capture HD.
The games music is copyrighted and turned off for this clip.

► PS2 playlists:
PS2 - Top 10 videos etc.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLljauD_hVEDIVuMflLYCTkYC4WPV_KOac

All my Playstation 2 (PS2) videos
https://www.youtube.c...

▶ Play video
#

brings back some memories lol

empty dune
broken sigil
#

😆

dense atlas
broken sigil
#

it was so fun

#

Worms, Jak and dexter and shadow of the colossus are pretty much the games of my childhood

timber viper
#

My favorite childhood game is Bully Scholarship Edition

broken sigil
#

I replayed Jak and dexter 2 and 3 at least 20 times each

celest musk
broken sigil
#

And Jak x

timber viper
dense atlas
#

There are deep strategy you can get into in that game, but it starts to fall apart if you can ninja like a pro. You need to set game mode options and stuff, it never really was much fun at high level/online. Didn't translate when playing the whole world.

celest musk
#

isn't everyone, especially siliex 😄

timber viper
#

Peak moment was when siliex got blocked for literally being helpful

#

if you ever saw that live

broken sigil
#

Is it just me or has #cpp been behaving lately

celest musk
#

just you playing too much cyberpunk xD

timber viper
#

Current regulars of #cpp was never problematic

broken sigil
#

if you remember that one