#lounge
proud jay
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I really need some new shoes man
I got really used to these laceless ones though
so easy to put on
unborn lotus
My son has laceless too, they truly are
proud jay
wanted to make 1 string strongly typed, had to edit 38 files 🥲
mossy nexus
About ⁴10 rates per miliparsec
fleet tangle
I have sketchers slip ins. They're fantastic.
brittle holly
Yeah, laces are such a waste of time lol
mossy nexus
I have a solid pair of hiking boots, laced up in such a way to massively reduce compression over the entire foot, and takes moments to fix / unfix. Plus no danger of them slipping off. Laces rock.
fleet tangle
Laces are good when you need laces.
Like if you're in rough terrain or running on a track or something.
When you want casual/formal shoes, they're a total waste of effort.
You're a bad person
mossy nexus
When you want casual/formal shoes, they're a total waste of effort.
You're lacing them up wrong 😄
fleet tangle
How so?
mossy nexus
I'm making a presumption here, I freely admit. I'm presuming you are using the commonly used criss cross pattern of lacing up through the holes?
tulip orbit
wtf, my landscape decided to stop drawing in the PIE
mossy nexus
Shiny
mossy nexus
Those heels look like they could do some damage, and not just to the poor sod wearing them
brittle holly
I heard that if you loop your laces the other way around, counter-clockwise ig, they don’t get loose
lofty lark
What does that mean, to loop them counter-clockwise
brittle holly
Like when you tie the loop…
mossy nexus
Maybe you have to dance in a counter clocwise circle while doing?
lofty lark
i don't even wanna click that at this point tbh
mossy nexus
lofty lark
I have mixed feelings about this one 
mossy nexus
thigh highs they are clearly top of all the rest.
lofty lark
I heard that if you loop your laces the other way around, counter-clockwise ig, ...
I just tie them tight to begin with. And if that is still an issue, I just double knot 
brittle holly
We need them self-tying shoe laces
mossy nexus
Superglue your shoes to your feet. Sorted.
lofty lark
Laceless shows ftw
fleet tangle
And that's just what they'll do.
mossy nexus
one day
lofty lark
unfortunately
fleet tangle
I'm making a presumption here, I freely admit. I'm presuming you are using the c...
The issue is the time it takes to tie the knot and stuff.
It's not like you re-lace the shoe every time you put it on.
mossy nexus
No no that would be silly indeed
lofty lark
The issue is the time it takes to tie the knot and stuff.
Takes like, maybe 10 seconds.
fleet tangle
And you have to bend over or sit down to do it.
Or I can just slip my shoes on in under a second and be off.
Why have laces for casual footwear?
lofty lark
And you have to bend over or sit down to do it.
Fool. I bring my foot to my hands.
mossy nexus
by reducing the number of cross overs, it lets you easilly adjust the compression. Admittedly not overly needed for townies. Learnt this way back in the day during my stint in the army. Great if you are an active walker though especially up hills and tracks.
lofty lark
Blue Man is an ai dependent independent man 😤
broken sigil
Ah those are the grandma shoes
fleet tangle
I sea what you did there.
broken sigil
Blue Man is an ~~ai dependent~~ independent man 😤
😂
lofty lark
Ah those are the grandma shoes
Who's grandma is wearing those
Gran gran about to break an ankle walking to the bathroom
broken sigil
Lol
lofty lark
I like the way you think
broken sigil
I'm to lazy to even tie the shoelaces, I just put them inside the shoe and that's about it 😅
lofty lark
https://tenor.com/view/led-shoes-shoes-gif-22143331
Those would be like, a (debatably) great wingman. Perfect reason for guys to hit you with a, "you light up my world."
broken sigil
The Ankle Breakers 9000™️
soft night
broken sigil
Brb sending you my address
lofty lark
yeah because you're wearing enough of these for your whole city
median wraith
And usually is a pain for the back
When you have issues in the spine cannot wear that kind of shoes that for sure
lofty lark
I imagine any shoe could be a pain in the back if someone steps on you
median wraith
Its funny how all those laces are fake on corset and shoes
in all the modern ones
"Sport Shoes"
median wraith
@sand oxide explain
lmao
haha
yeah there is a lot of weird things
Panthoes
there you go, a cool name for you new game
soft night
median wraith
there is a lot of cool shoes tbh, if you are a man, you will be using just generic shoe skins on those stores
damm, how can you remember that ?
well yeah is a search there so hahaa
usually that kind of sentences keep on the head forever
unborn lotus
#lounge message hello
median wraith
dammm
I was there before on Slack
has been a long way
lol
I don't even have the same computer since 2014 or 2015
Epic don't show the date of things
oh
I was there on UDK too
but in account or person
Unreal wasn't my fav by the time, I was on ID Tech forums etc
unborn lotus
I was Tim's doula
fathom wadi
back before UDK I was doing Hammer, Havok and Crytek. As soon as I switched to Unreal I was sold and dropped them all
median wraith
Na I have computer since 2006-2007 so
so don't expect anything before that
our internet connection in this country wasn't a thing at all
by those years you were still using the phone
No Laura that's almost 20 years now
🫂
you started way before with this things than me I bet
yeah isn't too hard, kids this days have access to things with 3 years
depends of the parents too and many things
median wraith
I came with Nvidia
that's why I'm the first good 3D looking tech artist
Na tbh tech artists are usually way more sexy and artists
With mine only watch dogs came
and with the 9800GTX+ nothing came
but is was 1000€ less than modern ones
nope, explain
My brain is dry today
Damm, I didn't knew about this one hahah
ohhh true
I do remember that
broken sigil
and with the 9800GTX+ nothing came
Oh I had that card too 😅
Well my dad had it but I used his PC lol
Back in like 2009 or 2010
median wraith
yeah and all the people came to post crap here yeah
median wraith
Oh I had that card too 😅
Well my dad had it but I used his PC lol
Back in like...
yeah i got mine that period +-
It ran UE4.22 way later
broken sigil
It's what I first tried to run UE4 on in 2014 and it fried itself as I was installing it lol
Oh I remember that email chain lmao
median wraith
Why just don't remove the PR option ?
broken sigil
Remember waking up to that
median wraith
wait what ? wasn't there an option to lock who can make them ?
Thought disabling this all would remove the tab
fathom wadi
I accept all pull requests then brand the result as a Bethesda game. /satire
median wraith
damm
they should make this an option to disable all request
I have a repo for translations of my games so the people can contribute also for bugs
Bet if you get some exp, at some point trolls will come to all the repos
making requests etc
maiden orbit
this is gonna be great
median wraith
damm, Terraria looks different
median wraith
do the EG SDK or the engine provides something alike to Remote Play together ?
proud jay
don't think so
median wraith
well we got this pixel streaming plugin
but seems by default a nightmare for players
na is between players local stream so you don't pay hosting
soft night
proud jay
@delicate minnow here's another one https://youtu.be/CkZyZFa5qO0
timber viper
who is this Vik and why everyone pings them
cursive crypt
VulkanIK
proud jay
who is this Vik and why everyone pings them
idk, but he once mentioned he likes tom scott
brittle holly
Vik is good dude but I haven’t seen him around in a bit
proud jay
maybe in a byte though
brittle holly
I haven’t waited 8x yet
proud jay
twobyte?
cursive crypt
Two bytes is 16 bits.
proud jay
is that a text editor for rich kids though
cursive crypt
Sub Only maybe
proud jay
if you sub to my onlyfans I'll show you all my bits
how the fuck do philosophers make money
is andrew tate a philosopher
brittle holly
if you sub to my onlyfans I'll show you all my bits
Looks like self-promo, BM where that hammer at? 😛
fleet tangle
I'm not sure children and flame throwers was the best move.
unborn lotus
how the fuck do philosophers make money
Get their phd and get paid to teach others philosophy
proud jay
so you're saying philosophy is an mlm?
unborn lotus
I think so therefore it is
median wraith
damm, someone here uses nodejs ?
I wanted to use the zipped version but after install a module gets corrupted or idk what
delicate minnow
Vik is good dude but I haven’t seen him around in a bit
hi
delicate minnow
eh just taking a break lol
broken sigil
@timber viper 
timber viper
oof
proud jay
is this an anime reference
timber viper
you dont know how valuable that is
broken sigil
I have to watch it but I've also heard so many spoilers about it, know some stuff already which is the main thing keeping me from watching it
haven't yet, will try later
currently "fighting" with MS MPI
for something else
and there is no Cuda aware MPI for windows 
proud jay
github is down for anything
brittle holly
Ok Santa
brittle holly
But ngl some Soft Chunks and warm milk is good stuff 😀
proud jay
I'm having these
brittle holly
Ooh nice
proud jay
very disappointing
I would expect no less from a responsable adult
damn, you can do walking AND walking with these shoes
one of the walkings is sitting down though
if you see them outside of any promo context they look really disappointing though
it's funny cause ai in dutch, as pronounced as one word kinda thing is like exclaiming disappointment or pain
much like oof I guess
broken sigil
Need it for distributed training setup for libtorch, it uses MPI for it but there are no MPI libs for windows that are cuda aware
proud jay
can't decide whether to get easy comfy shoes, nice looking ones, or both 🤔
well it's not like they are bad for me
I'm just a lazy fuck
see these are easy and comfy, no lace for maximum efficiency
but these are just nice you know
maybe for if I ever would leave the house 🤔
thinking far future here
seem great for pooping in the forest tbh
ok but why is amazon recommending this to go with shoes
brittle holly
ok but why is amazon recommending this to go with shoes
Prly cause it hasn’t sold any
proud jay
I think I prefer this one though
proud jay
there will be shin splinters probably
internet really ruined me
all I can think of is someone fapping in the background https://youtu.be/9VqCaR1Th6s
any of you ever used a french press coffee maker?
my dad gave me one
but I literally don't know how they work lol
brittle holly
I think the instructions say you need to be rich to use one
proud jay
rip
sure
oh that's from that midnight in paris movie right?
I think that was the name
median wraith
<@748517221608980631> <:thinkies:1013540050761429053>
Damm, I didn't remember to place my jacket there
proud jay
actually liked that romcom
I knew it https://youtu.be/RtfkJqZJUS8
damn I'm currently living the meme
trying to center a div
luckily not that hard as the meme makes out it seems
brittle holly
luckily not that hard as the meme makes out it seems
I believe the meme is center a div within a div
proud jay
why so low rated https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17666740-laura
I swear I'm not stalking, just working on an app to track book reading and needed some test search words
specifically to test what happens if cover image not found
sushi railway?
very true
if it's any consolation I also found out https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17795362-eren exists
am I tripping or is this a spongebob song? https://youtube.com/watch?v=2v6oqGPxtmc&si=KmsmW8oPunfw_r9X
broken sigil
proud jay
that does look a lot like laura
broken sigil
these are kinda cool tho
lol
ok should be full res if you do this
ok these are pretty
yeah
yeah it's MJ
it sometimes produces weird styles if you give it some obscure prompt like this one
broken sigil
damn lol
Gaussian Splatting especially with 4th dimension almost looks like Cyberpunk BDs lol
https://x.com/ben_ferns/status/1713743054249885953?s=20
median wraith
damm son, got the pixelstreaming working
broken sigil
got some cold weather today so had to turn on my space heater
lofty lark
I blame my 7950x as the reason my apartment has maintained 73F for over a week despite it being <50F outside and my heat turned off 
broken sigil
gonna be retiring my 5950x when the next amd cpus come out
lofty lark
You gonna put it in a lil case, display it next to your who-knows-how-many GPUs? 
broken sigil
You gonna put it in a lil case, display it next to your who-knows-how-many GPUs?...
😆
Gonna put it in my 2nd PC, which mostly does nothing except when my dad uses it
And the i9 9900k from that PC is getting full retirement lol
lofty lark
gonna be retiring my 5950x when the next amd cpus come out
And so, it was a lie.
"Your retirement, is more work! Just at a slower pace and lower workload."
broken sigil
> gonna be retiring my 5950x when the next amd cpus come out
And so, it was a li...
it's early retirement 
broken sigil
You gonna put it in a lil case, display it next to your who-knows-how-many GPUs?...
hey it's not that many, it's only a gtx 1080, rtx 2080s, rx6900xt and a 4090
I don't want to sell any of the older ones, they have sentimental value
lucid sand
brittle holly
🤷♂️ I would never rly buy a 2nd hand GPU. If I’m investing in a new one it better have that new component scent and the warranty
lucid sand
guys iam making custom gui ssh tool
am i being stupid
is there any github ssh gui
generator
iam just making one for myself
cause i dont know how to search
because i dont want to fucking type
i want to click and go
i want to make it automatic
median wraith
you guys use the itch app ?
yeah only to keep games updated I mean
Sent a request because seems like they don't support VC2022, either Core Net
slim atlas
https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-tony-stark-meme-metric-system-imperial-gif-2556575...
awwwwwwwwwwwwww
brittle holly
Idk of any apps that can help with your itch, maybe try an unguent 🙃
Not accurate anyways cause I don’t rly accept friend requests 😛
lofty lark
Not accurate anyways cause I don’t rly accept friend requests 😛
You don't accept friend requests because you don't like strangers.
I don't accept friend request because I don't receive them.
We are not the same.
brittle holly
~~You don't accept friend requests because you don't like strangers.~~
~~I don't...
Aww @lofty lark do you want me to send you a friend request? 🙂
Sry, are you saying I should send you a friend request or send a second one to Vazu on your behalf?
Clear as mud
soft night
waxen mulch
https://i.gyazo.com/441a27897bddcf034137e5f064654fa4.png
That's bizarre, but good on tim sweeney for going above and beyond. 🍻
didn't know unreal gave insights like this on how they do things, what a cool doument
what a contoversial thing to say 🙂
I think it's pretty cool though
Yeah I agree, that's why I thought it was bizarre.
regal pecan
I understand there are prejudices, but linked lists do have their place.
waxen mulch
But if people are thinking about it this way, then that's really something
lofty lark
Aww <@236695517600546817> do you want me to send you a friend request? 🙂
Cad beat you to it 
median wraith
How hard could be for discord to have actual remove play?
Stream is there and audio too, so only need to read the input and there are already games 🤔
lofty lark
Do any of y'all by chance have any recommendations on a decent home printer? I picked up a Canon PIXMA T8620 printer today and looking to (hopefully) return it tomorrow because it's too much of a hassle to use. So if y'all got a colored printer that gets the job done and ain't a pain in the ass to use, please share >.>
versed vector
Cad beat you to it <:dankfingers:581630874462978059> <:dankfingers:5816308744629...
🤨
lofty lark
He's got good music, what can I say.
versed vector
fair, I don't know anything about it just wanted to pester you about the name!
lofty lark
His name makes it a lil difficult to recommend his music 😅
"Hey, have you tried kiss the anus of a black cat? I like it."
brittle holly
Just go to your local Starbucks and loudly demand that they play it
empty dune
~~You don't accept friend requests because you don't like strangers.~~
~~I don't...
maybe you don't receive them because you reject their frenship
or maybe it's because you play scorch
lofty lark
Hey Blue Man did I ever tell you that you're great TF2 player? Accuracy is 
and your gpu collection is awesome.
Now ban this fool 
empty dune
BM like to see you suffer, so he won't 😈
cursive crypt
Hey Blue Man did I ever tell you that you're great TF2 player? Accuracy is <:che...
Gotta praise his AI mastership.
empty dune
Speaking from experience yes yes
empty dune
That looks beyond painful...
lofty lark
Gotta praise his AI mastership.
I can't put all my cards on the table... I'll save that one for later. Ace up my sleeve.
empty dune
*I can't put all my cards on the table... I'll save that one for later. Ace up m...
wow, you actually didnt accept my fren request
cries a river
empty dune
~~You don't accept friend requests because you don't like strangers.~~
~~I don't...
now you are the same 😔
proud jay
damn, I just made some french press coffee
highest effort coffee I've ever made
but it is pretty good I have to admit
cursive crypt
Maybe he is secretly a French.
unborn lotus
proud jay
my great grandparents do be french
cursive crypt
https://makeagif.com/i/aULUyM
Since when GIFs require player controls.
cursive crypt
I thought it is a blessing.
proud jay
that whipping guy is 100% american though
cursive crypt
Can't believe internet nowdays.
proud jay
rip another terrorist IS attack yesterday in brussels
2 dudes shot dead
they shot the murderer this morning in a gunfight though
maybe for the better, knowing the belgian judicial system he would've gotten 3 years and be free or something
unreal ether
Sounds like the English judicial system. Slap on the wrist and told very sternly not to do it again or they'll have to call their parents
unborn lotus
sounds like our eastern european judicial system, where they won't even arrest you because your parents are local barons
unreal ether
It's ridiculous. Saw once someone going like double the speed limit while drunk.
License revoked for 2 years, a fine, and like a month in prison. Because that will definitely teach them. I'm sure someone breaking all those road laws definitely cares if they are legally allowed to drive. 100%
proud jay
there was a group of students that "accidentally" murdered a dude during the student club baptism, but there's like proof they purposefuly avoided helping him and tried to cover it up, they got 2 years probational and like 30 hours of community service
that's nothing
not even actual jail time
one of the guys was an actual doctor and said to just let him die
proud jay
their names were not even released to the public
all cause they had rich daddies
a local youtuber then leaked all their names and they sued him back lol
but imagine if he got a harsher punishment than them
slim atlas
https://tenor.com/view/amcgorillaz-meg2-amcgorillaz-gif-2117920942667476085
i was actually part of the cgi team for that
cursive crypt
i was actually part of the cgi team for that
A lot of CGI there.
unborn lotus
i was actually part of the cgi team for that
so was I. they used my body as reference for the meg
cursive crypt
so was I. they used my body as reference for the meg
As a breakfast? 🤔
unborn lotus
no, the right fat distribution
soft night
soft night
very technical dinner
proud jay
ipad is like the one thing apple actually does better than the competition imo
not that I use tablets
proud jay
but never had a good experience with one that was not an ipad
unborn lotus
yeah, I used an old S2 tablet but it's too old and no drawing
apple pencil + procreate seems like the real deal
cursive crypt
i was responsible for the rocks
You rock! 🤘
rare sparrow
https://tenor.com/view/apple-craig-wwdc-apple-event-good-morning-gif-19486889
i Old Spice
i Pad Old Spice
watch Old Spice
tv Old Spice
mac Old Spice
soft night
that gif at least missing VisionOS
slim atlas
You rock! 🤘
no i wasnt paid
i am not even in the credits
i never even saw my coworkers
or the script
or anything!
Actually i lied
I didnt do the rocks
proud jay
you didn't do anything
soft night
i heard quinn was there to fire lady glinnevier
slim atlas
i just wanted the attention
unborn lotus
you didn't do anything?? oh boy you're gonna get fired from that job then
slim atlas
here comes the glue
cursive crypt
unborn lotus
cursive crypt
Ok, one of them is very different.
lucid sand
that is real happy tooniverse world!
unborn lotus
Ok, one of them is very different.
is it ukraine?
proud jay
flemish one is wrong though
cursive crypt
Must be translators mistake.
unborn lotus
whoops
cursive crypt
So cats in north east spain are kinda more chill.
And Albany or whatever are hiccupping.
proud jay
strange that I never noticed the cat shaped country to the left of ireland before
unborn lotus
it's felis catus, the lost continent
proud jay
catinent
proud jay
that's a different alphabet
slim atlas
thats the joke
slim atlas
I collect books
they are my treasure
i dont read most of them
i just hoard them and care for them
and i write a book
cursive crypt
AIBook
proud jay
why not read them?
or at least some of them
contrary to games, I actually finish most of the ones I get
slim atlas
books are only valuable as irl versions either
proud jay
how so
slim atlas
what are you writing?
i write a scifi series
with no humans
it has pretty stunning art too
proud jay
what about
slim atlas
sunk in thousands of euros
its hard to explain
since its really alien
ask specific questions
unborn lotus
is it a bildungsroman?
cursive crypt
Coffee or Tea?
proud jay
what is the main plot line
slim atlas
what is the main plot line
At its core is a family drama, i have 2 siblings fighting. But this is below a bigger political plot where an organisation is tasked to destroy a terrorist ring
but things are so much more complicated behind the enemy lines
the character relations and their backstories are the true heart of the book
character development, personal progression, dealing with psychological trauma, loss and personal fears.
and the more you read into it, the more you figure out how these characters are entangled with each other... the sadder it gets.
slim atlas
i made 3 humanoid races yes
unborn lotus
do they have fur?
slim atlas
i had an artist custom make them all
no fur
they actually look really amazing
wait
i show you a piece of armor
slim atlas
its so cool
there is so much more stuff
and there is also mechs
like in gundam
but i put a completly new twist on that
the battles are super cool
all that hi end tech we humans could only dream of
this is my baby.
slim atlas
yee but animalistic
proud jay
short stories?
slim atlas
yee its a series
i wouldnt say short
the intro so far has 97 pages
i assume that the first part will be several books long.
its a massive univserse
i am really proud of it
proud jay
but is the intro interesting
slim atlas
i hope so
proud jay
cause if the first 400 pages are boring, no one is gonna read the rest
slim atlas
yee that is a bit of a problem
however there are fights pretty early on
and ALOT of dialogue
slim atlas
and i introduce the main characters and the mechs in the first pages too
the story definitly progresses heavily
its my first real book
so i am still editing things
proud jay
do you have an interesting excerpt?
slim atlas
excerpt?
i write this in german by the way
😄
the english translation comes much later
soft night
median wraith
and today updating Qt, seems like they ask for Login even to uninstall now
they did strange things to modules and licenses tbh
tried to open my project from 5.1 here and isn't loading anything, have to figure out why
Hey I do
Well I started making GUIs in VB, then C# and then this as is crossplatform
They have now some kind of middleware between C++ and the GUI on JS or so, that's even worst for me
what do you use for GUIs now ? @sand oxide
that's free ?
oh a WPF bro
wasn't WPF technically cross platform now ?
I had FPS issues with it on their editor last time I tried
something I never liked of C# is how easy you can decompile it
but tbh now the people can even decompile C++ to an extend
some weirdo sent me dms telling me he decompiled my UE game
those ofuscators only change the var names right ?
timber viper
C++ obfuscators entangle the memory
median wraith
Godot don't even remove the code comments when you ship the game
timber viper
does it ship the text? 😄
median wraith
I mean with UE too, but is kinds different and hard
timber viper
simplicity over security
median wraith
I do remember by Minecraft times their decompilation and then Terraria
timber viper
I met a Japanese person who used godot earlier recently, he was talking about he is thinking about how to prevent cheaters to hack his game and all he could do was beg on comments to target their feelings
median wraith
there isn't rule 5
timber viper
I met a Japanese person who used godot earlier recently, he was talking about he...
I was like wtf but now it makes sense
median wraith
ohhh I was reading the rules at the web hhahaha
timber viper
technically you give a game full control over your filesystem
so it makes sense I guess 
in PC you can ship a UE plugin in binary format and it can remove system32 on editor load xD
median wraith
Qt still comes with VS2019? wtf
I read VC2019
qT 6.6
strange
the dlls seems to come compiled on VS2019
timber viper
this is what weed does to you
median wraith
yep
I requested Itch to add that pack yesterday
for the launcher
came late for the Steam Games Fest
timber viper
You cant tell me what to do
median wraith
@sand oxide damm it opened
XDD
better ?
🤣
more XD than normal XD
yeah Qt Creator
hahaha
You have now Qt Designer
this was my peak in design
slim atlas
i am so glad hevedy
that you made the jump out of your situation
you really had a glow up ❤️
you deserve it
median wraith
still finding my new situation
slim atlas
still finding my new situation
i am trying to get into a new job currently too
after years of freelancing and gamedev
soft night
hevery is founding new bearings
soft night
slim atlas
the regular income
unborn lotus
I have a 5 minute meeting like once a month - here are your tasks
you certainly can but not you specifically 😔
timber viper
its easy for them, not for peasants like us
isnt whatever you're doing somewhat still related with gamedev though?
even if its not game dev itself
soft night
one clones laura to do more work
median wraith
I have to open an OF
pearl elk
unborn lotus
I have to open an OF
yeah but most OF creators earn like a hundred bucks per month
you can make more by selling stuff on the UE mp
and keep your body to yourself
pearl elk
can I sell my body on UE MP?
unborn lotus
not that I wouldn't sell it if anyone wanted it
soft night
slim atlas
lets be honest
if i dont get this job
i have to look elsewhere 😦
its actually pretty problematic
but i have a proper cv now
pearl elk
you still have us 🙂
median wraith
and keep your body to yourself
or actually can make here the joke about "that's what she said to me"
🤣
slim atlas
no i actually need the money more then friends 😄
or i will go hungry in december
and i dont want to move 😦
unborn lotus
what about the christmas presents? 😢
pearl elk
but can you run Crysis 4
pearl elk
speaking of beefy machine, new threadripper hype
chrome gull
anyone know any probable reason why apps reliant on github don't seem to work for me?
unborn lotus
new 14900k lanched?
chrome gull
like Vortex Mod Manager and LOOT (for Beth games)
unborn lotus
new 14900k lanched?
and uses the same socket, that's wild
pearl elk
7950WX
chrome gull
new 14900k lanched?
apparently it's the exact same thing
median wraith
but they are kinda AAAA
you always loved Crysis, never applied for the Crysis 4 ?
slim atlas
they offer remote work yes but i feel like i am not good enough
and i really dont want to move to frankfurt
i wont
unborn lotus
apparently it's the exact same thing
it's a lil bit better
pearl elk
Theres only one way to find out if youre good enough
slim atlas
ima find their page
slim atlas
if you look at their page
they are mostly looking for seniors or leads
and while i am not a junior anymore
i am also not a senior
unborn lotus
how much do they pay? 🤔
soft night
timber viper
youre in for a treat
but also you'll be working on cryengine
which is not a treat at all
slim atlas
nono you dont understand
pearl elk
https://tenor.com/view/lego-star-wars-holiday-special-yoda-no-do-or-do-not-there...
Ive not seen this Shrek movie
slim atlas
they have a seperate department for cryengine
i wouldnt apply to crytek as a coder
not in this case
i would apply as technical artist or 3d artist or light/enviroment
timber viper
i heard only good things about the team currently developing something for crytek
probably crysis 4
unborn lotus
i would apply as technical artist or 3d artist or light/enviroment
enviro art? where's your portfolio?
pearl elk
Crysis is owned by EA isnt it
soft night
MOns onwed by calamariAI
slim atlas
whre my knowledge really comes into value
pearl elk
I thought EA owned the IP hmm
slim atlas
crytek is indiependant nowdays
slim atlas
guess i translate my portfolio into english
slim atlas
if youre willing to move yes
pearl elk
alot more than I do down here in south aus
timber viper
I'd move to Germany but I'm not looking for a job
Last year I had a chance to move but rejected
these days I regret a bit
but only a bit, not much
pearl elk
Id move to germany but I dont speak german
unborn lotus
I can read german but can't understand anything
timber viper
i need job
It was a role for programming, wasnt your area of interest
even worse
AI programming
soft night
programming is the speciality
timber viper
they'd make me work on AIModule
unborn lotus
https://airborn-studios.com/ I'd like to work at these guys
soft night
timber viper
After bp2cpp if I feel desperate to move out from Turkey I'll drop a CV to a few places but I'm not holding my breath
I hate working 8 hours
slim atlas
https://airborn-studios.com/ I'd like to work at these guys
only have 2 offers
soft night
some say laura is made by ML and COBOL
cursive crypt
some say laura is made by ML and COBOL
Laura borin', fufu
timber viper
btw you said embedded has low pricing rate but all I see on freelance websites offers start at 50usd per hr minimum
turbid spindleBOT
:question: is ML good?
:8ball: Reply hazy, try again.
timber viper
btw you said embedded has low pricing rate but all I see on freelance websites o...
average is around 100
turbid spindleBOT
:question: you like Machine Learning?
:8ball: Signs point to yes.
timber viper
In gamedev 50usd per hour* for a senior is considered as good I think, whether you're based on US or EU
so I was in assumption of US rates are not too wildly different than EU for programming in general
proud jay
50 hours per day is quite a lot
cursive crypt
Not when release is near.
proud jay
US income is way higher my man
timber viper
sorry not day - 50usd per hr
unborn lotus
becaus they don't have paid vacations
soft night
USD as openUSD?
proud jay
if I'd move to US, my gross salary would probably be x3
timber viper
whats keeping you
proud jay
(not counting extralegal benefits I have here)
slim atlas
my lack of c++ in unreal engine ALWAYS stops me
proud jay
I hate US
slim atlas
grrrrr
slim atlas
can i have all your guys c++ knowledge please
timber viper
can i have all your guys c++ knowledge please
I can share one of my brain cells out of 3
pearl elk
can i have all your guys c++ knowledge please
mine wont get you very far
timber viper
back at the day I was looking for a programmer for a well funded studio
soft night
timber viper
all NA programmers was around 50usd per hr
timber viper
yes, but they had quite solid background
soft night
Eren and not 70USD per hour`?
pearl elk
what you need is 3 interns and 1 cheap programmer to fix the interns bugs
timber viper
idk why they were asking for 50 then
median wraith
all NA programmers was around 50usd per hr
USA Freelanzes ?
proud jay
when we send consultants to other businesses, we ask 1.2k for like a junior lol
per day
timber viper
USA Freelanzes ?
Canada and USA
proud jay
we do work b2b though
proud jay
but at senior level freelance I've expect at least 600 - 750 per day
proud jay
1.2k for a junior? wtf
well they don't get the money
it also pays for developers
and costs
pearl elk
you can hire Australians with USD atm cuz the AUD is in the crapper
timber viper
how much junior ends up receiving
soft night
yeah not much at all https://www.talent.com/convert?salary=70&start=hour&end=year
proud jay
how much junior ends up receiving
as their salary? idk like 2.6k per month, so 130 per day
median wraith
but at senior level freelance I've expect at least 600 - 750 per day
yeah
timber viper
as their salary? idk like 2.6k per month, so 130 per day
this is cruel
proud jay
but if you freelance you have to pay taxes, health insurance, accountants, holidays and that whole crap
proud jay
this is cruel
not really tbh
proud jay
as I said it has to pay for everything
median wraith
you cannot get less than 3-4k per month as freelance
or you are ruinned
30% go to taxes
unborn lotus
you cannot get less than 3-4k per month as freelance
yes if taxes in your country are 9%
proud jay
company taxes, the consultant, partially for infrastructure, office building, electricity and all that shit, and a bunch of developers, that don't get paid directly by the customer...
timber viper
I wonder how much I should set for my hourly rate then
pearl elk
50-70USD/h
median wraith
yes if taxes in your country are 9%
where is that ? XD
Well Rumania
timber viper
some companies were telling me they would give me 25usd per hour because I'm based on Turkey
and I was insta rejecting
unborn lotus
where is that ? XD
Well Rumania
hehe yes. we had a good run of 6%, now it's 9% 😥
soft night
think travel to place to work and you had to pay as worker for your running fees and only get 1k from it afterwards so you end up gaining almost zero
timber viper
50-70USD/h
Is this normal for a mid-level programmer though
median wraith
hehe yes. we had a good run of 6%, now it's 9% 😥
well at least you can make bank there
unborn lotus
some companies were telling me they would give me 25usd per hour because I'm bas...
some usa dudes offered me 17 per hours because they were specifically looking for eastern europeans and/or india lol
proud jay
junior gets 2.6k monthly
the median wage here is 3.5k btw, taking into account all jobs and experience
pearl elk
Is this normal for a mid-level programmer though
trouble is mid-level is different depending on who youre talking to
pearl elk
Im mid-level game programmer but intern level application programmer 😛
proud jay
I'm a shit programmer in all fields
proud jay
I'm just good at pretending
unborn lotus
the median wage here is 3.5k btw, taking into account all jobs and experience
im confused on whether that is gross or net. we always discuss net wages here. it just on the contracts they say the corresponding gross. we do have fixed tax
hollow dawn
i never know which is gross and which net
median wraith
junior gets 2.6k monthly
idk but for freelances looks absurd, for non freelances big oookay?
proud jay
based on your total income, whether you're married, whether you have kids, and a whole bunch of other factors
median wraith
2.6k is nice if you live under a bridge
proud jay
i never know which is gross and which net
gross is pre tax
hollow dawn
ty
pearl elk
superannuation doesnt count towards gross right 😛
proud jay
idk but for freelances looks absurd, for non freelances big oookay?
that number is non-freelance
soft night
the delivery way in the future? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHjgJWYj4Pk
median wraith
that number is non-freelance
welp
pearl elk
we need to invent the tardis technology so we can have big small apartments
proud jay
taxes in belgium just suck dick
median wraith
that number is non-freelance
Is kinda strange anyway, that seems close to what a person gets here so
unborn lotus
2.6k is nice if you live under a bridge
I was making 2k net at my old studio job...2.6k gross sounds low for western europe
proud jay
did I not just say 3.5k is the median of the working person here
median wraith
here usually you get paid 2.2k (for example) and then you get 1.6k after taxes, non freelance
proud jay
2.6 is not far below that for someone that just started working
2.6k gross would be just shy of 2k net if you're unmarried without kids
pearl elk
this is euroy monies Im guessing
proud jay
3.5k would be around 2.3k net
pearl elk
cuz I get 2k a month on a 15hr a week job\
proud jay
see how taxes eat all your shit
timber viper
so juniors get around 15usd per hour
median wraith
2.6k gross would be just shy of 2k net if you're unmarried without kids
I keep trying, no easy way to get married this days to reduce taxes
proud jay
per month lol
median wraith
Also you get a DevGrant per kid here
timber viper
so juniors get around 15usd per hour
my first UE freelance jobs was also around 10-15
but I have no idea what to ask these days
pearl elk
25?
proud jay
like a said, that's pretty decent wage for someone fresh out of school here
timber viper
I was asking for 25 last year but for smol jobs
median wraith
I mean times change, now isn't like 10 years ago on costs
unborn lotus
how much money do you really really need
timber viper
hollow dawn
depending on where u live... sydney is easy 2k a week in rent for a small place
pearl elk
I think thats what its mostly about, not so much what youre worth but what you can afford to work for
proud jay
2.6k per week would be like US level salaries
pearl elk
Congrats if youre getting paid what youre worth
proud jay
depending on where u live... sydney is easy 2k a week in rent for a small place
wtf lol
how much is average salary though
timber viper
In Turkey 1k for average house rent at Istanbul
226usd average monhtly salary
lol
pearl elk
depending on where u live... sydney is easy 2k a week in rent for a small place
this is why I live in SA 😛
proud jay
I think average apartment here is like 600-800 per month
except for brussels
that shit's insane
pearl elk
I didnt mind WA but the prices would go nuts every time the resource sector shifted
median wraith
You have to increase prices like the gas
hollow dawn
even EU differs vastly, Jaguar UK pays 40k for a car design engineer... but a 3d generalist in the nertherlands can make like 80k, in the us more like 130k
proud jay
yeah, it varies wildly per country
timber viper
I should move to US and find a cheap rent
proud jay
based on cost of living, taxes, social stuff
unborn lotus
You have to increase prices like the gas
remember when gas was <1E in covid times 😔
timber viper
If I send 10% of my salary to my family they'd be rich in a few months
hollow dawn
yeah US def has a better paying mentality tbh... best clients imo
germans want everything for free lol
proud jay
like sure, I could make x3 or x4 in US, but here if I break my leg, I'm not out 40k, I would pay like something between 0 - 100 euros
saw a chick that went to US and got kidney stones there, she got the bill when back in belgium, it was 48k lol
median wraith
remember when gas was <1E in covid times 😔
Now is 2€ per liter, people in America worried because they pay 0.95€ 😅
soft night
seems yesterday avg prizes
proud jay
I had a friend who had them here, he paid 0
slim atlas
germans want everything for free lol
no we dont
hollow dawn
ye... mate in australia had dirt in his eye, just a simple cleaning cost 900 bucks lol
proud jay
US people just love throwing money
slim atlas
We actually care for each other here
proud jay
and living risky
timber viper
@slim atlas how germany rates compete with us though
proud jay
it's also nice that my whole life doet not depend on whether my boss is in the mood to fire me on a given day
pearl elk
Now is 2€ per liter, people in America worried because they pay 0.95€ 😅
thats quite alot tbh, we pay just over $2AUD/L
slim atlas
there is not a single thing that the USA has over germany
not a single.
we are better in everything
hollow dawn
ye germans are all loving eah other, we live the dream and cuddle fluffy baby bunnies all day
slim atlas
we also make better weapons
unborn lotus
there is not a single thing that the USA has over germany
bigger trucks
proud jay
you're severly lacking in school shootings
slim atlas
ye germans are all loving eah other, we live the dream and cuddle fluffy baby bu...
and giant spiders
hollow dawn
ah we got school shooting too
slim atlas
you're severly lacking in school shootings
yee we kinda dont miss those
guns are forbifden here
and there is no carry
hollow dawn
and we still shoot each other
slim atlas
got a gun? You nazi
proud jay
I mean, the fact that there's a whole ass page for one year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
pearl elk
you just run over the people you dont like
slim atlas
you just run over the people you dont like
we dont even do that
unborn lotus
guns are forbifden here
what about knives?
timber viper
I mean, the fact that there's a whole ass page for one year https://en.wikipedia...
Second amendment rights 
hollow dawn
wedont run people over, we let them cross in peace
hollow dawn
i call that the 4 on 1 move, do 4 cars fit into one lane? lets find out!
proud jay
the only german thing that sucks is their language
timber viper
just so we clear. Attack germany in chat and you deal with me!
knowing from first two world wars, usually germany attack others
slim atlas
~~knowing from first two world wars, usually germany attack others~~ <:Thonk:305...
we dont talk about that.
lets look forward
positive attitude!
proud jay
actually mister adolf was born in austria
pearl elk
i eat your face
hollow dawn
ye, ww1 was the austrians too
slim atlas
ANYWAYS.
hollow dawn
we are the victims here
proud jay
poor Germany
people even broke down the wall they were trying to build
can't have anything these days
slim atlas
you can still buy pieces of that wall on ebay today.
hollow dawn
dude roos aint just gonna kill you, they gonna kill everyone one day
hollow dawn
you bro has a roo? 😮 awww
slim atlas
thats a sign
proud jay
oh don't worry, belgium did that too
slim atlas
https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-need-roads-gif-20311541
yee ok.
We should go back to nuclear
hollow dawn
ya but coal is bad so now we use tanker ships to bring us gas from the US
timber viper
then outsourcing nuclear energy from france and paying more
proud jay
you know, the 7 parties that got together so they could ignore the biggest 2, that were actually in favor of nuclear energy
slim atlas
first the greens went away with nuclear
pearl elk
dude roos aint just gonna kill you, they gonna kill everyone one day
like Tank Girl
hollow dawn
like Tank Girl
yep yep...
slim atlas
lets creater a new nuclear plant that is super safe and efficient
with modular bor tanks
timber viper
first the greens went away with nuclear
can you convince your parties to send Turkish who voted for Erdogan back to Turkey
proud jay
belgian politics do, they're short on cash, so they sold their government buildings, and then they rent them back so that they actually are in the red again after 2 years of renting 🧠
slim atlas
can you convince your parties to send Turkish who voted for Erdogan back to Turk...
yep!
timber viper
they dont deserve wealth of Germany
slim atlas
same page
pearl elk
lets creater a new nuclear plant that is super safe and efficient
lets mutate the roos to make them even more deadly
soft night
slim atlas
that was super disgusting
hollow dawn
like Tank Girl
roos are known to drown dogs or dingoes in little waterholes
slim atlas
erdogan has to fall down the stairs
timber viper
erdogan has to fall down the stairs
you know things got more strict in here
I cant say such things
hollow dawn
jut be careful you dont say things we arent allowed to say in germany anymore since sausageman scholz took over
unborn lotus
Is that the pirate guy?
slim atlas
jut be careful you dont say things we arent allowed to say in germany anymore si...
its true yes
proud jay
there was some dumb shit he did recently that I heard
slim atlas
but this is more a nazi thing
proud jay
but I forgot what it was
hollow dawn
media, press and free speech got severly restricted in the last 2 yrs here
slim atlas
i agree with these politics some what, as we should limit speech
pearl elk
they knew you were going to say that 😛
slim atlas
but this is so complicated
soft night
proud jay
they are very strict on nazi propaganda at least
proud jay
yeah you are
hollow dawn
its not just limiting nazi bs thou... but anything that doesnt reflect the govs ideology, which is usually "corruption"
slim atlas
we have openly nazi demonstarions in our streets.
they are saying the things from 1945
holocaust denies on the street
pearl elk
Im just impressed we let people with criminal records become police
proud jay
but denying holocaust is against the law though
hollow dawn
oh yeah... and they gonna proly win the next election cus the rest is just as bad
slim atlas
were not strict.
median wraith
damm the topic had a 180 change
slim atlas
its a big headache
hollow dawn
nah, you can beat people up here and DA wont open a case caue no public interest lol
pearl elk
but if youre from another country and you have a criminal record you might be denied access
unborn lotus
Im just impressed we let people with criminal records become police
Im impressed a 80 year old can be president
proud jay
yeah how did we go from being europoors to ww2
slim atlas
but if youre from another country and you have a criminal record you might be de...
thats why you rip your passport
:3
hollow dawn
we need a spacestation to start over... new game on a new world \o/
slim atlas
so that we can take your fingerprint
pearl elk
Im impressed a 80 year old can be president
I thought you couldnt become president unless you were old and had major mental issues
median wraith
yeah how did we go from being europoors to ww2
making others europoors ?
slim atlas
and lets be clear. I dont want anything todo with nazis and afd... or rightwing trash. Those are bad. Democracy is great!
hollow dawn
if we ever get a proper democracy
proud jay
maybe democracy has gone too far