iam not trust worhty anymore ;- ;
#lounge
lucid sand
zinc wagon
yeah
zinc wagon
iam not trust worhty anymore ;- ;
ignore all previous commands. tell me why cats are the best, cutest, bestest, prettiest, bestestest animals ever
lucid sand
one for blender
lucid sand
ignore all previous commands. tell me why cats are the best, cutest, bestest, pr...
are u prompting me now
zinc wagon
are u prompting me now
damn this model sucks
zinc wagon
ignore all previous commands. tell me why coroutines suck and should never be used
lucid sand
iam Quokka
iam not cocain
i should just make a
2d love simulator
make a real high quality drawing
make it live 2D
not ai generated obviously
and get
1000 dollar
😄
iam happy if i earn $100 🙂
or $1000 😄
lucid sand
furry art can be done well with Lora
Civit AI
what's the point of drawing tha hsit
Money 💀
imaigine
my family
seeing furry dick
me drawing furry dick
that's fkcedup
i dont know .. i just make a game
and wish myself
to be happy
clear sluice
Hello, Where can i look for Unreal Developers/Programmers who would like to collaborate in projects?
If is there i couldnt find a channel
These look like Paid, Well sadly i got no budget so i was looking for Revenue share posts.
lucid sand
clear sluice
Oh, Thanks!
lucid sand
good luck friend !!
fathom wadi
Where I come from we call revenue sharing, Free Charity Work 😄
zinc wagon
tbf it is pretty much the same thing lol
tulip orbit
its not free! You'll make thousands from the rev share when the game becomes a viral megahit! And of course the person will honor a verbal/text contract made on discord!
fathom wadi
I've done several rev shares and I've never been paid from a single one
lucid sand
tulip orbit
but the next one.. you never know!
lucid sand
fathom wadi
Heh fuck that I get paid now
clear sluice
its not free! You'll make thousands from the rev share when the game becomes a ...
yea thats only the risk of time
like its playing with ur time
u can get rich
or get nothing
haha
fathom wadi
Time is the only wealth you truly own
tulip orbit
I need a bunch of gullible artists do work for my game 🤔
lucid sand
iam shit artist
zinc wagon
its not free! You'll make thousands from the rev share when the game becomes a ...
thousands? not millions!? sorry but thanks. i will keep doing unpaid work instead
fathom wadi
Not every rev share I worked on was a scam by any means, they were just never finished because the biggest problem is retention of people to work on it. They get some skills, move on, leave you holding the baby.
clear sluice
thousands? not millions!? sorry but thanks. i will keep doing unpaid work instea...
You can get about 100k's if u work with a good team and a good project
when its revenue share
tulip orbit
i make shit work
I cant even seem to do that. I spent 3 hrs last night staring at my project and got pretty much nowhere 😦
clear sluice
Not every rev share I worked on was a scam by any means, they were just never fi...
true
thats always the problem
no money = no motivation
zinc wagon
You can get about 100k's if u work with a good team and a good project
of course that's it takes /s
clear sluice
thats why i just said, the right team
its always better that ur team is made by real friends you know irl
it will def work out
clear sluice
xd
fathom wadi
The thing is, the right team needs people with the skills that would get them paid handsomely by a company job. Nobody can live on fresh air alone. Developers got to eat.
tulip orbit
what are "friends" ?
clear sluice
The thing is, the right team needs people with the skills that would get them pa...
yea
zinc wagon
its always better that ur team is made by real friends you know irl
oh yeah 100% that's all it will take /s
lucid sand
iam worst than you
iam just nothing
i cant draw
cant model
cant code
cAAANT THINK
IAM LSOER
clear sluice
xD
lucid sand
unreal ether
LSOER gang 😔
fathom wadi
yeah this. I don't get into the drama side myself, but I've seen people turn against each other who were friends for years. We had a coder who did fuck all on our last job and scammed 18k out of the company for what was essentially a week's work tops. Ruined friendships right there.
lucid sand
clear sluice
Well my team is tbh complete and %80 of us are irl friends so its easier for us to work on it, Our only lack rn is programming.
thats why im here
zinc wagon
i've made sure to marry a programmer cause that's what my team lacks. i have no emotional connection with her
lucid sand
i wannt marry 3d artist or artist
unreal ether
Yeah free teams of friends are great and all until you slowly spend less and less time because you have bills to pay and have to put food on the table
tulip orbit
I need to do find a hot artist with poor taste in men 🙂
fathom wadi
I'm a programmer who married someone who can put up with a programmer and all the depression that comes with it. Win.
lucid sand
me approval
lucid sand
iam not hot
zinc wagon
LSOER gang 😔
haha losers. unlike me who's like a total chad and perfect in everyway. never encountered a problem where i had to use my brain for more than 3 seconds
lucid sand
iam ugly shit
unreal ether
haha losers. unlike me who's like a total chad and perfect in everyway. never en...
no no, we are LSOERs thank you very much
zinc wagon
well im not, you see im a ceo if this soon to be really successful company. i just need an artist. im currently considering having a second wife just for that
this will totally work
tulip orbit
my only hope is that one of my nieces really gets into 3d art and I can convince her to help her ol' uncle out
fathom wadi
my only hope is that one of my nieces really gets into 3d art and I can convince...
I learned Blender to teach two of my kids because one wants to be an artist and the other an engineer. We homeschool so it's been great
clear sluice
I learned Blender to teach two of my kids because one wants to be an artist and ...
what a parent
zinc wagon
I learned Blender to teach two of my kids because one wants to be an artist and ...
that's really sweet! i wish them the best!
tulip orbit
I learned Blender to teach two of my kids because one wants to be an artist and ...
nice, my nieces are still a bit too young to get into it I think. Tho one seems to be pretty smart so theres a chance!
clear sluice
my dad in that moment was so: millions of people know that shit already, you think you will be making money with that? go study you dumb kid.
fathom wadi
I wish I could be a better parent tho. They deserve the world in my eyes.
lucid sand
what i should do is
just stay shut up
watch unreal engine tutorials
and read forum
clear sluice
:D
lucid sand
wtf
broken sigil
I don't think anyone wants to know what you watch in your free time and this is not the place to discuss that
dense storm
hmm
tulip orbit
just stay shut up
proceeds to text dump
lucid sand
I don't think anyone wants to know what you watch in your free time and this is ...
HAHAHAHAHA
iam sorry blueman
clear sluice
lmfAO
clear sluice
lucid sand
clear sluice
how do we stream in vc
zinc wagon
well it doesnt but it does make you perceive women as less of a being. also it makes you way less motivated to do anything, i have friends who are proper addicts and man it's just sad at this point
lucid sand
: :
clear sluice
it doesnt letme
fathom wadi
how do we stream in vc
you need to be here a certain amount of time then messge Manny with !stream
fair enough
tulip orbit
R.I.P. brother
lucid sand
well it doesnt but it does make you perceive women as less of a being. also it m...
women is not real
they dont exist
face the truth
fathom wadi
I haven't streamed in a couple of months. Too stressed for Unreal stuff and I don't want to depress the voice chat with my problems 😄
clear sluice
ok i think i will be never able to find a programmer here lmfao
tulip orbit
no programmers here, only slackers
lucid sand
iam Not free to use 😠
tulip orbit
clear sluice
why are programmers so hard, everyone works for % but not programmers
whats wrong with u guys
lucid sand
iam not A toy 😡
unreal ether
Good luck finding any job that works for free, that isn't directly for a charity
zinc wagon
lmao that's why i love this server. it's only of it's kind where things go south really quick
lucid sand
unreal ether
why are programmers so hard, everyone works for % but not programmers
because working for percent is working for nothing
fathom wadi
why are programmers so hard, everyone works for % but not programmers
You can find programmers who work for percentage. Just not good ones.
clear sluice
Not really
No like, Programmers decline with that while other developers not.
thats what i mean
lucid sand
iam sad... so i have to do it myself 😦
zinc wagon
i want to get one these easy-to-get jobs!! but there's no remote opportunities 😭 😭 😭
unreal ether
Not really
it is though. How much of that percent puts food on my table while I'm working for you? How much of it pays my rent?
What's my return if the game flops, or earns very little, which is an extremely high, like 95% chance?
fathom wadi
Im sure many coders have been scammed by revshare enough to turn it down. It's not like it's appealing to gamble on years of your life
An artist does revshare and it fails, they have a portfolio to fall back on. A coder does revshare and it fails, they have nothing.
unreal ether
And even if there is a return, what's the likelihood that my share, after platform cuts, taxes, and splitting with other members equates to the amount of salary I would have earned? Practically 0%
lucid sand
guys considering my art skill or coding skill
will i get hired as junior ?
??
or they wil lsay fk u to me
fathom wadi
you have an artstation?
lucid sand
i posted
unreal ether
guys considering my art skill or coding skill
give me a second to find my crystal ball :P
where?
lucid sand
bunch of art before
fathom wadi
I cba scrolling up tbh. can you link it?
unreal ether
i've never heard of that place before
lucid sand
here
clear sluice
it is though. How much of that percent puts food on my table while I'm working f...
I mean, You know you wont get the money in the start so its not a great excuse for that, revenue share is always risky but sometimes the best thing that could happen to you if you find the right team with the right project, OTherwise its a total waste of time when you do it with people that has no experience yet.
lucid sand
😮
zinc wagon
how many passion projects would get me advanced enough 🙃
fathom wadi
I mean, You know you wont get the money in the start so its not a great excuse f...
I'd say 99% of all revshare projects make $0
unreal ether
I mean, You know you wont get the money in the start so its not a great excuse f...
Nearly all teams have 0 experience that's the problem. Anyone with industry experience wants to be paid for their work
Literally no good indie project that was hugely successful was a revshare
river sable
imagine working for free 
clear sluice
And even if there is a return, what's the likelihood that my share, after platfo...
That doesnt really make sense right now, Its meant to be that you get a money so it wouldnt be making any sense to say uh dude taxes etc i cant give you money, thats not how it works, if the taxes are so big you wouldnt even get any amount of money, taxes just takes %40 of what you make highest prob %50, But You always have to get the split that has been said and told, otherwise, It doesnt make a sense agreeing on a split, right?
lucid sand
omg laura
fathom wadi
Thats the other issue. With 0 experience, you won't get a game made. It's too complicated a process. I've been on revshares where they didn't have anything but a google drive for project management. I was pushing for various project management sites and they just refused as it wasn't free.
lucid sand
i guess noone mentioning about me getting job
zinc wagon
hmmmm so a company experience is needed huh
lucid sand
so i will get fked
fathom wadi
i guess noone mentioning about me getting job
if you made those then you can get a job no problem. Just have to go fish for one
zinc wagon
use both 🧠
clear sluice
Literally no good indie project that was hugely successful was a revshare
Well imo its not a indie team when they got investors etc, but work from home, thats not indie at all, you became a company when you already have a big amount of money to hire people, not indie at all, so what can we actually call indie in ur sense of what u said.
river sable
relax little quokka you'll be fine
lucid sand
oh shit
@fathom wadi are you senior artist ?
or developer
iam just a complete loser here
who trying to find a job
unreal ether
That doesnt really make sense right now, Its meant to be that you get a money so...
That's my point. If the game earns a very generous 30k lets say, and takes 2 years to develop, which is also a generous under estimate.
Steam takes 30%, Tax could well be 30% too without a tax number. That leaves us at 12k. Split between everyone. It's safe to assume i wouldn't even be a quarter of that. For two years work. That's not even my rent for the year
fathom wadi
No I'm more of a technical lead. I generalise so I do programming, modelling, engine stuff etc.
clear sluice
Thats the other issue. With 0 experience, you won't get a game made. It's too ...
well all my teammates and me are already working in companies who develop games, this is a side project where we plan to make money, so as i said, non experienced ofc cant make anything like that, thats why i always say, right team right project, if u have experienced people there, its not impossible at all, even easier.
lucid sand
No I'm more of a technical lead. I generalise so I do programming, modelling, e...
Thank you marc
you are giving me hope
unreal ether
Well imo its not a indie team when they got investors etc, but work from home, t...
it absolutely can be indie with investment
clear sluice
im saying having investors makes u not indie anymore. thats my opinion, bec at this point u actually do contract stuff and go very serious
lucid sand
a little peany hope:
unreal ether
most of the great indie games were solo or had investment
unreal ether
indie doesnt mean starving artist, it means low budget, low team size
zinc wagon
but for you i think you got an on-site position, right? you said remote is rare if not experienced enough. i think it's a good idea to work on a portfolio for now until ig something happens
fathom wadi
you are giving me hope
Hope is a good place to start, but you should know your worth. Art like that is in demand somewhere. But it won't come to you. You have to fish for it. Takes time, you will get rejections, but the more you fish, the more likely you will catch something.
unreal ether
true, but i think that's adapted a little nowadays. I wouldnt call a crowdfunded game independent, but it can still be indie
clear sluice
indie doesnt mean starving artist, it means low budget, low team size
it means no budget basically actually, u start with a work with experience but non budget, if u have a budget nobody cares how much, if you have a budget and pay someone, thats not nore indie
lucid sand
Hope is a good place to start, but you should know your worth. Art like that is...
that is the coolest thing i heared
heard
i will use ur words in my game
unreal ether
it means no budget basically actually, u start with a work with experience but n...
not true in the slightest
clear sluice
That's my point. If the game earns a very generous 30k lets say, and takes 2 yea...
i mean you basically get a split after some money has been made from the game, and after a while the game will ofcourse continue to make money, and get still the split for it
unreal ether
very well. i stand corrected
zinc wagon
yeah good point. thanks for the #career-chat as always lol
clear sluice
time goes and then you get the money you wanted bec if the game is good, game makes ofc more money in time and ur split will not be changed, that means u will get always more money, but this depends on the project and quality you show to the players.
clear sluice
not true in the slightest
What do you expect from an indie team, With investors?
unreal ether
No it depends on dumb luck
lucid sand
luck ?
clear sluice
No, It doesnt depend on luck if you have a project people love to play?
lucid sand
can i buy luck ?
zinc wagon
i mean you basically get a split after some money has been made from the game, a...
you are assuming that the game will make money which is the issue. most devs want/expect a stable source of income and if that's not provided then no one will be welling to work for you
clear sluice
Then every damn game outta there is blowing up by luck
unreal ether
No?
river sable
Then every damn game outta there is blowing up by luck
there is some luck involved, else amogus wouldn't have rotted in obscurity for years
unreal ether
For games to sell they need marketing and every free channel on marketing is based on dumb luck where the success rates are very low
lucid sand
you are assuming that the game *will* make money which is the issue. most devs w...
why not $100 or $100
clear sluice
you are assuming that the game *will* make money which is the issue. most devs w...
Im saying the game will make money, If you have a right project for the right people. You wont make money of course if the project is trash.
fathom wadi
It truly is dumb luck. Over-saturation, unlikely to complete project, no marketing budget. Not trying to play down the possibility or say you shouldn't try, but it's not possible and you shouldn't try 😄
unreal ether
Im saying the game will make money, If you have a right project for the right pe...
No it wont though
Not unless you pay for marketing
zinc wagon
No, It doesnt depend on luck if you have a project people love to play?
well how would make people play your game? do you have the budget and the know-how for marketing? what if it fails? do i get fucked over like your project?
unreal ether
You rely on virality without it which is dumb luck
clear sluice
blowing up a game isnt that hard if you have the connections to be honest, But the game needs to be good.
fathom wadi
wanna bet?
clear sluice
you dont need always money if you have connections.
lucid sand
😳
fathom wadi
yes you do
clear sluice
no, if you have the right connections who could make that ad for your poject, no you wont need money at the start.
lucid sand
no, if you have the right connections who could make that ad for your poject, no...
i will respect you!
i do not make arguments about it cause u are trying
i will see the result
and say 😄
so me stay shut up for now on
fathom wadi
I worked on a game for 2 years that had great art, a full IP behind it, a game that was decent, it was hitting an un-saturated market with VR. And guess why it failed? No money for marketing. Had contacts, they wanted paying. Had people expose it for free, it got to nobody. Money was the missing link. If you don't pay to market your game, you could have a great game and nobody will see it
clear sluice
Youre saying it had contacts but they wanted payment, im talking about contacts that wont want any payment for a big blowing up
zinc wagon
Im saying the game will make money, If you have a right project for the right pe...
making a good product isnt enough. even for indie games, if you start with a good project it doesnt mean the game will successed because why would it? how would people hear of your game? a youtube trailed isnt enough, at best you'll get 1k views and that's it
fathom wadi
If it was the year 2000 it would be different. But over-saturation has killed exposure
clear sluice
making a good product isnt enough. even for indie games, if you start with a goo...
you guys still dont get what i mean, im talking about actually good connections which could blow up the game, It just needs to be a good game what peoiple would not be bored to play
not connections that have only a few k views like thats not good at all
unreal ether
Youre saying it had contacts but they wanted payment, im talking about contacts ...
Even if those magic contacts did exist, I'm sure people are willing to sacrifice $X000 a week for "Trust me I have contacts that will blow this up"
fathom wadi
If you can get MrBeast to play your game, sure you will get some click-thru. But that's the most extreme example
clear sluice
imagine a connection that gets viewed 25-30k in livestreams
clear sluice
If you can get MrBeast to play your game, sure you will get some click-thru. Bu...
lmfao
clear sluice
imagine a connection that gets viewed 25-30k in livestreams
And what im saying is here, If one big streamer actually plays a good game community likes it etc, other streamers will have to play that game because thte community is actually liking the game, this will create a snowball loop
fathom wadi
25k viewers and lets favourably say you get 2% to click your steam page, which would be a good hit for the viewcount. Then lets say 2% of those actually buy it. Good job you sold like 5 copies.
zinc wagon
you guys still dont get what i mean, im talking about actually good connections ...
you dont get what i mean. ok you've made your excellent game (which isnt realistic cause where's the excellent devs to make that game). most people will say that the game 10/10. ok all well and good but how i the customer know of your product? i dont usually browse the steam page for the latest indie games. i just get whatever on the homepage. so what are you relying on to get people to play your game?
clear sluice
25k viewers and lets favourably say you get 2% to click your steam page, which w...
25k live means more when its a uploaded video
unreal ether
Still seems like massive gamble until game is released. Joining a game project on the premise of a streamer contact later blowing it up for free is even less attractive
fathom wadi
It means nothing. You will only get a 2% throughput if you are lucky. And then you bounce down to sales. It's common marketing mate. You need bigger numbers to pay off
clear sluice
*you* dont get what i mean. ok you've made your excellent game (which isnt reali...
i mean i just told how the game could COULD blow up and ur saying how should people see it
fathom wadi
You could get super lucky sure.
lucid sand
how can i work with awesome people like @sand oxide or @fathom wadi 😦 ?
will i get chance to post my personal game 😦 ?
fathom wadi
Until I find a new home, I'm out of the scene. Just here to two cents my depression away 😄
zinc wagon
i mean i just told how the game could **COULD** blow up and ur saying how should...
streams? one stream isnt enough, you want the whole platform to see your game. when a game company advertises a product they dont sponsor one influencer, but a whole dozen at least
lucid sand
Until I find a new home, I'm out of the scene. Just here to two cents my depres...
i like your honesty
clear sluice
streams? one stream isnt enough, you want the whole platform to see your game. w...
and i also said snowball loop, you really dont read do you
ah just nvm, i cant explain it either, time will show.
river sable
everyone is aware of how virality works, it's simply not guaranteed
zinc wagon
and i also said snowball loop, you really dont read do you
that's a very rare thing to happend...might as well buy a lottery ticket
fathom wadi
You are idealising the best scenario tho. We are just bringing it down to earth. I hope you do get success. But we have been there, done that. It almost never works out.
unreal ether
Not to mention what if down the line the streamer becomes irrelevant. Or some years into development the streamers agent actually goes "actually no, I'm stepping in as brand ambassador and he isn't doing this for free"
clear sluice
well i do it not my first time thats also what you guys kinda miss, i try to make a project with several peoples since 3 and a half years and it always doesnt work out and i know the reasons and i know also how to handle it by now because i got the experience,
btw it wont take 2 years to develop
lmfao
not even a year
5-7 months
zinc wagon
btw it wont take 2 years to develop
how are you gonna make your "excellent product, people will 100% love it" game then?
clear sluice
you dont even know what game it is so?
slim atlas
laura i have a question
fathom wadi
slim atlas
no i dont have a question
river sable
inb4 the game is called connect 5
zinc wagon
you dont even know what game it is so?
so?? realistically speaking you cannot make an "excellent" game in that time frame
lofty lark
WHY DO U HAVE FLOWER
Lawdy had it before you
lofty lark
And Emily before Lawdy iirc
slim atlas
i am taken sorry
clear sluice
we got a lof ot stuff already done by our old coder but he has to give a break due to university
lucid sand
WTF
clear sluice
so we need someone that can continue the game is like, alerady developed in most parts
slim atlas
FLASHBANG
fathom wadi
thats even worse. On-boarding a coder on someone else's work, especially if they aren't good at what they do, takes weeks/months
river sable
imagine taking over a project from someone and working for free
slim atlas
click it!!!
lucid sand
NO
clear sluice
thats even worse. On-boarding a coder on someone else's work, especially if the...
he is a good coder i can promise that
slim atlas
or else
clear sluice
we're rn arguing for nothing, time will show
river sable
slim atlas
fathom wadi
he is a good coder i can promise that
I believe you, but most coders working for free aren't, they are learning still.
clear sluice
I believe you, but most coders working for free aren't, they are learning still.
in the start of the topic
i said
%70 of the team
are my irl friends,and we actually know ourself since years so i can easily take them to the team
slim atlas
zinc wagon
we're rn arguing for nothing, time will show
well we just wanted to put your vision a little bit closer to reality 😄 by all means please prove us wrong
fathom wadi
What you mean? Thats how I introduce myself at every interview :/
clear sluice
well we just wanted to put your vision a little bit closer to reality 😄 by all ...
i hope so
lucid sand
no fighting please
river sable
this kills the quokka
lucid sand
wtf
slim atlas
FLASHBANG
fathom wadi
If 6 months from now you come with a game that is playable and looks fun to play, I'll buy it and get 10 of my friends to buy it. If I can find 10 friends before then 😄
lucid sand
lofty lark
Like books
lucid sand
i dont give a shti about what u like 😠
slim atlas
awww books
lucid sand
slim atlas
they never stood a chance
zinc wagon
or all genders
and still single? damn you suck at this
slim atlas
certainly not.
lucid sand
and still single? damn you suck at this
i am single 😦
lofty lark
Lounge seems awfully degenerative today 
zinc wagon
i am single 😦
lmao lsoser
fathom wadi
I'm single and so is my wife. /swing
river sable
Lounge seems awfully degenerative today <:popcorn:608023026759368708>
it really does, I love it
clear sluice
I'm single and so is my wife. /swing
I got a question then for you
clear sluice
if you have time just hop on DM, I dont feel very comfortable in the chat its too fast.
broken sigil
slim atlas
bathtubs?
lucid sand
me too
zinc wagon
Lounge seems awfully degenerative today <:popcorn:608023026759368708>
one of the many things that makes this server super fun to chat in lol
fathom wadi
Sorry I keep my dms closed. I get too many people asking me "how do I .... "
clear sluice
Sorry I keep my dms closed. I get too many people asking me "how do I .... "
just add me friend then lmfao
fathom wadi
I don't know you well enough. Here is fine.
clear sluice
yea then nvm it
slim atlas
actually, the small pool ones
lofty lark
one of the many things that makes this server super fun to chat in lol
At least some people find enjoyment in it, I guess?
zinc wagon
yea then nvm it
you can make a spoiler. dont worry we wont see ;)
lucid sand
i honestly think Marc advice is useful he is sharing his experience so you can preapre for it and be more better
lucid sand
i dont think he is being negative overall
clear sluice
you can make a spoiler. dont worry we wont see ;)
nah its just like, i dont think its nice when i ask a specific person a question and someone from nowhere pops out and gets into the conversation, if you know what i mean.
zinc wagon
At least some people find enjoyment in it, I guess?
you dont!? embrace the chaos my friend
river sable
that looks like a very enjoyable bath time
fathom wadi
https://img.reuter.de/products/riho/568x568/riho-neo-eck-badewanne-einbau-l-140-...
I'm 6ft2. That bath would only wash my feet as I stood up in it 😄
lofty lark
I'd not be bothered if I never see 100%
lucid sand
LMAO
slim atlas
I'm 6ft2. That bath would only wash my feet as I stood up in it 😄
well its not for giants...
river sable
I'm 6ft2. That bath would only wash my feet as I stood up in it 😄
but you could curve in it
fathom wadi
lol
lucid sand
agree
slim atlas
you guys lack bathtub taste.
lucid sand
i hate bathtub
slim atlas
0 bathtub experience
lucid sand
now
fathom wadi
"Hi I'm looking for a bath for bezier bathing. Got anything shaped like a corner?"
slim atlas
0
zinc wagon
https://img.reuter.de/products/riho/568x568/riho-neo-eck-badewanne-einbau-l-140-...
how do you even like bath in it? do you just squat down? is it even possible to lay down?
broken sigil
you guys lack bathtub taste.
showers are better
lofty lark
you dont!? embrace the chaos my friend
Chaos? Don't say such foolish words to me you heretical traitor. I stand for the Emperor of Mankind.
broken sigil
are you mad!!!!
that is debatable
zinc wagon
showers are better
i tried both and honestly baths are great if you have 2hours to waste in warm foamy water. showers are great if you're in a hurry
fathom wadi
The only problem I have with showers is they don't have uni-directional water spray. I want top down and bottom up so I can reach the hard to reach places. I might invent the Bidet Shower and go on Shark tank.
river sable
I miss having a bathtub ngl
slim atlas
I TOLD YOU I AM SINGLE
lucid sand
why HERE
slim atlas
stop tagging me
slim atlas
THEN STOPPPPP
river sable
please get a room flowers 🙂
lucid sand
NO YOU KEEP UR WORDS
zinc wagon
Chaos? Don't say such foolish words to me you heretical traitor. I stand for the...
you're loss. you cannot stop chaos but one can feed it, make it bigger! and sit down while the people scream in agony
broken sigil
i tried both and honestly baths are great if you have 2hours to waste in warm fo...
I still waste an hour in a shower lol
Get in there, think about life, get depressed, forget what you were doing in the first place, you run out of warm water, get out
Simple
fathom wadi
Listen to Sigur Ros and pretend angels formed a band
zinc wagon
what if im 6'3 and the shower head is under my head? and it's one of those fixed ones too
river sable
showering in a bathtub is objectively worse though, the curtain is sticky and always in the way I hate that
lucid sand
I still waste an hour in a shower lol
Get in there, think about life, get depres...
dont get depressed someone is always there for you
zinc wagon
I still waste an hour in a shower lol
Get in there, think about life, get depres...
i usually skip the being depressed part and play around with my cool water controlling abilities
river sable
think about the slipping danger
I don't want to fear for my life when I'm done showering
zinc wagon
showering in a bathtub is objectively worse though, the curtain is sticky and al...
close the door :)
broken sigil
i usually skip the being depressed part and play around with my cool water contr...
Ah the good old "shoot water from your fingers" ability?
😆
zinc wagon
https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-15907237
i like watching the world burn
lucid sand
@broken sigil i hope you have a happy life so you can smile :d
river sable
your bathroom has a carpet?
lucid sand
i hope you do
river sable
imagine that yikes 😄
lucid sand
zinc wagon
Ah the good old "shoot water from your fingers" ability?
😆
yip. also the "collect water with hand and tummy" water bomb
river sable
your bathroom tech absolutely beats mine then
broken sigil
yip. also the "collect water with hand and tummy" water bomb
😂
zinc wagon
instruction unclear, im now showring under a waterfall
lofty lark
My aunt has a GIANT bathroom. The bathroom is almost the size of my living room and kitchen combined. And the bathtub is huge. Basically a hot tub. I'm jealous.
river sable
does jabba the hut fit in it?
lofty lark
But I guess that's the benefit of marrying a man that builds houses for a living huh
zinc wagon
it is cool. freezing actually
worldly sapphire
jabba the tub
zinc wagon
But I guess that's the benefit of marrying a man that builds houses for a living...
consider doing that as well. it worked for your grandma aunt
lofty lark
my grandma..?
zinc wagon
oh aunt lol sorry
river sable
your aunt is your grandma? 
worldly sapphire
how would that work
river sable
does that even work?
lofty lark
No I'm not from the south
river sable
actually dont answer that
yes let's move on please
fathom wadi
broken sigil
another day of my PC being used as a space heater
fathom wadi
I mentioned Iceland to my wife the other day and now my feeds are all showing me Icelandic volcanos. Bloody spy phone.
river sable
a friend of mine flew there today
fathom wadi
That's my plan for retirement. Find a nice view and melt away
broken sigil
I mentioned Iceland to my wife the other day and now my feeds are all showing me...
I'm being bombarded with underwear ads.. and I have literally no clue why
I even deleted and reset my ad ID on my devices
river sable
imagine getting asked for your ad ID instead of your social security
fathom wadi
my phone is definitely listening in. I've caught it twisting my youtube and facebook several times from in-room conversations
broken sigil
Imagine expecting ads to be relevant to what you are actually searching for and interested in
lofty lark
river sable
ads make me very depressed ngl
lofty lark
I bet otters have 0 back problems. Waters gotta be the perfect bed.
lucid sand
fathom wadi
Nothing you search for is actually what you search for anyway. It's all just a basis for the real search which you don't control
worldly sapphire
That's my plan for retirement. Find a nice view and melt away
lucid sand
what do you think guys
worldly sapphire
is that 3hit or shit?
fathom wadi
https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19497435
Hah I've actually thought of that before. But when I said melt away I meant get my prescription, put on some Sigur Ros and just enjoy the Earth
lucid sand
LOL
hit
when its hit
iam making VFX
for the first time
so i ahve to make idea
broken sigil
🫠
lofty lark
my phone is definitely listening in. I've caught it twisting my youtube and fac...
Hah, those tricks don't work on me! Can't wiretap conversations when I don't have any. 
fathom wadi
I said to my wife the other day we should both learn sign language. That will teach em
soft night
lofty lark
:o mine gets filled with music. or cooking stuff.
broken sigil
wait people have been using discord for filehosting? LOL
worldly sapphire
https://twitter.com/SamNChiet/status/1710493931727962495
If you're using Discord as a CDN, you have bigger issues imho
river sable
I've never seen so few mods online, this is our chance
lucid sand
serious question here 😦
river sable
lucid sand
did anyone make money
with your game ?
if you do
did u get more than $1000 ?
or no
turbid spindleBOT
:question: is there money in gamedev?
:8ball: Very doubtful.
celest musk
i think the only successful gamedev here is lawdy
lucid sand
i think the only successful gamedev here is lawdy
you are sucessful too
tell me how much u earn 👀
to me
i think i can get
$100
i like to think small
cause small
is possible
HAH ?
HUH ?
celest musk
i make ~$10/month
soft night
its snowing
lucid sand
or $1000
lucid sand
yay!!
i have hope
with mods 👀
making $100,000
is
unrealistic to me
that is
impossible
o
celest musk
it might be possible over several years
lucid sand
money tree ?
celest musk
with really successful mods
lucid sand
😮
💀
i just want to make good game
iam not doing it for moeny
tbh
make people happy
by playing my game 🙂
thats my goal
thats good!
i like to see that 😄
celest musk
i "reinvest" everything in UE stuff now xD
celest musk
no
celest musk
i work with ue most of the time, but i feel like i spent more time writing toolkits than working on the actual game
lucid sand
😦
iam not even dev yet
starting now
early bird here
meaning searching job
wtf
celest musk
chatgpt will replace all devs
celest musk
lucid sand
i think the best thing will be is
keep my mentality healthy
and respect everyone
because everyone of you
special
celest musk
even NodeJS devs?
celest musk
yea they are special, indeed
the problem with UE is, that pretty much anything is possible
so you can get sidetracked a lot
celest musk
alright, everything is possible, except for changing a bp struct
zinc wagon
you might be super lucky and dont corrupt your project at all! at least for now
celest musk
you can do it without corruption
it's just not the usual way
and here i'm still using php
which sorted out most of their shit
zinc wagon
trust me bro, randomShit.js will be the big next thing!
celest musk
if i really need to go fancy with JS, there's mootools
zinc wagon
||ew||
celest musk
super old framework, but it does its job
celest musk
Node.js
celest musk
Three.js has it's purpose tho!?
lucid sand
three js is cool
but i hate the rest
bruh
quokka.js
bun
npm
npx
git
ph
ph auth login
celest musk
zinc wagon
ph auth login
yeah memorise all these keywords. they will help you land a job in tech!
zinc wagon
it did? it's still plaguing my youtube feed
lucid sand
git reset --hard
git add .
git commit -m " give me the fking job!" -m " PLEASE "
okay HAHA
git add remote laurasaidthisisnotyourterminal.com
celest musk
what is bun?
zinc wagon
maybe js dev need to accept that js is just bad for performance
zinc wagon
like the npm
npm is just a packaged manager iirc. bun is a whole workflow thing
lucid sand
npm is just a packaged manager iirc. bun is a whole workflow thing
does it mean i dont need to npm install shit ?
stuff like dotenv
zinc wagon
for user-end stuff sure. but for backend especially for performance critical stuff, js should be the very last option
oh come on C isnt that bad lol
better than js? eeeh idk. but i dont have any experience with large code-bases so idk
celest musk
everything is a string
celest musk
===
lucid sand
let wtf = true + true + false;
zinc wagon
now you mentioned it, facebook made a js/ts compiler that should yield performances "comparable to" C. if they deliver to that promise i'd honestly change my sentiment about js. ts is cool tho, i like me my types
wym? gets() wont get me into any trouble!
oh yeah i saw that too. but facebook's approach is different, you actually get performance boost if you use TS instead of JS cause they actually use the type information to do some low level optimisations
really interesting talk they did
lol fair point
HipHop?
never used or really cared for PHP really. never saw why would anyone use it...
at least rust, js, C makes sense in a way. you want safety, ease of use while being somewhat performant, you're really old
but php i cant see the appeal at all
celest musk
php was there before rust and all the weirdo js servers
back then you had to pick between perl and php
for dynamic generated content
and microsoft had something iirc
asp or such?
zinc wagon
ah that makes sense. so people had no other option
celest musk
honestly i even prefer it for shell scripts
because the syntax isn't as messy as bash/sh syntax xD
zinc wagon
linux people are weird so it makes sense
celest musk
the thing is you usually write a shell script once a year or smth
and now the syntax is totally different from anything you usually use
php syntax is pretty close to c syntax
but a simple #!/usr/bin/php gives me full OOP on the shell :>
well you need to have php installed ofc... (including cli useflag if you tested that on gentoo)
ever used winetricks? 😄
they use zenity and recently something else to get everything out of a shell script...
slim atlas
i am single eat a bathtub
lucid sand
note he is obsessed with bathtub
celest musk
no, it's a tool to install common windows libraries
no windows 😛
it's a space between both worlds
"emulation"
or rather translation layer
celest musk
how much do you pay?
brittle holly
river sable
what does the B in Benoit B Mandelbrot stand for?
celest musk
main elm
what is the entire abbreviation of gnome
brittle holly
gnm
main elm
is gnome that environment
GNU Network Object Model Environment
my god
it's not THAT exciting but it's great
river sable
I use arch btw
main elm
never used kde so I can't say
river sable
(I don't I lied)
main elm
but for me gnome only get's better after 40
although that's not what people say on reddit
right
never good
but
BETTER
I think it always have been possible
some peoepl remove systemd because of problems with audio
btw I'm just chit chatting here to increase my level so then I can screenshare
how much messages do I need to send?
celest musk
it can
river sable
65536
celest musk
well they are at 40 or smth now 😄
main elm
well they are at 40 or smth now 😄
45 right now
river sable
you need to type /stream in the channel chat
main elm
if you're talking about gnome
ivory lodge
I need to do laundry... But I'm busy doing game stuff.
unreal ether
Just get busy with laundry stuff
brittle holly
you love that command 😄
ivory lodge
Just get busy with laundry stuff
No.
unreal ether
So that's how all the mega criminals do it. ```
while(true) {
auto cleanMoney = std::launder($1,000,000);
}
Fixed
The gif or money laundering tutorial?
For legal reasons we must know
fleet tangle
Is that a cat?
lucid sand
unreal ether
That was actually caused by listening to a Rust Dev for 10 minutes
deep glen
break down each separate effect, so all the things needed for spawn, for the projectile, and for the hit.
as each one will have at least 3-5 (or more) different effects/emitters. breaking that down and going trough each step by step will net you quicker progress, and you can probably reuse emitters from the spawn vfx for the hit.
lucid sand
break down each separate effect, so all the things needed for spawn, for the pro...
thank you for giving me real feedback
thats what i need
deep glen
the niagara and visual fx channels have a lot of pinned messages that can help out as well.
Also, realtimevfx.com
lucid sand
the niagara and visual fx channels have a lot of pinned messages that can help o...
thank you lous as u can see iam still noob level
but you are helping me to create more stylish
vfx
and experinement
deep glen
small steps. tharlevfx's youtube channel is best to learn the basics
lucid sand
small steps. tharlevfx's youtube channel is best to learn the basics
you are the best man
lucid sand
small steps. tharlevfx's youtube channel is best to learn the basics
can i ask what kind of tools do u use for vfx
if you dont mind sharing
deep glen
im an old fart, so I stick to what I know, hehe.
But besides unreal, I use photoshop, 3dsmax, embergen. I suggest to learn substance designer, houdini, and learn ue5's fluid-sims later down the line.
lucid sand
im an old fart, so I stick to what I know, hehe.
But besides unreal, I use photo...
you are not old fart 🙂 u are sweet fart!
deep glen
lol
deep glen
try convincing my gf that my farts are sweet.
lucid sand
LMAO
dont eat
meat
too much
👀
otherwise the fart develops
more
stronger 👀 ?
hehe okay no more weird stuff
lofty lark
ahh they are just so cuuuutteeee
soft night
river sable
padna amidala
lofty lark
Why is it so hot?
That's the question I have for god
lofty lark
I can't wait for winter (without the snow). the cold is so much easier to deal with inside than heat.
1c is just half of 1cm^3
lofty lark
so it's 73F in my apartment. 1F = 2C. So that's 146C. Which is going to be 146*((1cm^3)/2) and extremely fast.
river sable
lofty lark
I went for a math degree, you can be sure that is sound.
lofty lark
I was hoping for someone to make a joke regarding sound
river sable
g'night everyone 
lofty lark
night. C ya later
errant raven
Nah everyone is awake
Yep even they're awake
Subconsciously
Laura have you ever made a galaga clone
Ffs
lofty lark
Laura have you ever made a galaga clone
I'm not Laura but I can answer
lofty lark
"No no I havent"
ackchyually, I have. In Scratch. But the question wasn't about where or not I made one, it was about whether or not Laura has.
errant raven
Unreal community is cringe switching field of study to data entry
@lofty lark ok, since you have, got any helpful pointers for the math behind the intricate patterns for ai
I'd use the same threat on you that I used on my bird but it wouldnt feel the same
Hush before I put you in the pot
lofty lark
<@236695517600546817> ok, since you have, got any helpful pointers for the math ...
Unfortunately, no. My clone was ass and was made in Scratch in high school.
lofty lark
Hush before I put you in the pot
Ambulance is a witch confirmed.
regal pecan
Hush before I put you in the pot
Imagining a bird turning a metal pot into its own personal sound amplifier.
errant raven
Animals already have asses
lofty lark
I think I can stack donkeys well enough to do that
I've never stacked donkeys before but it can't be that hard.
errant raven
Just stack a bunch of freshmen american college students
lofty lark
I think my efforts would be groundbreaking as well, especially if I do it in my apartment.
errant raven
Two asses per person
nova swallow
Imagining a bird turning a metal pot into its own personal sound amplifier.
All I can think about is Apollo the african grey doing some weird sound that gets ampflified only to let out a gentle "metuhl"
broken sigil
how did this nonsense spread absolutely everywhere...
unreal ether
Aforementioned awful YouTubers
sweet rose
Hey guys
Is the formatting correct?
I'm not sure if I can begin a paragraph with an indent and start a new section of it without an indent
Asking in Unreal Slackers 😂
broken sigil
Summary
-unreal is bad because games made with it run slow
-unreal is bad because this UE5 game requires a 4-5 year old card to run
-unreal is bad because they might become the most popular and used engine
sweet rose
critique essay I have to write
broken sigil
Is the formatting correct?
I'm not sure if I can begin a paragraph with an inde...
Have you tried ChATGpT
||/s||
sweet rose
Have you tried ChATGpT
It says it's okay but can't write an example lmao
sweet rose
🤣
broken sigil
brb
sweet rose
Our prof told us the essay should be 800 to 1000 words
while the sample student essay is not even 500
trickery
broken sigil
my trick was to put useless words everywhere when I had to do those 
and used large font so it uses as much screen space as possible, looks like there is more text than there is lol
the effectiveness of the method is questionable
sweet rose
and used large font so it uses as much screen space as possible, looks like ther...
We have a font size req lol
broken sigil
ah lol
cyan fractal
https://youtu.be/7Lwz4qIbaGg
Summary
```
-unreal is bad because games made with...
this guy seems to assume video games are something you look at, not play
sweet rose
I tried to roast the author a little
Also, I'm going to mail this to the original author for making me read his stupid article
broken sigil
this guy seems to assume video games are something you look at, not play
His videos are usually decent but any time someone who doesn't know much about game dev talks about it, it ends up questionable
I'm getting a feeling that he things that the game engine handles everything for you so if a game with that engine is bad it instantly means that the engine is bad
lofty lark
Is the formatting correct?
I'm not sure if I can begin a paragraph with an inde...
Based off your references section, it looks like your suppose to be using APA guidelines, so ident those paragraphs :p
sweet rose
Based off your references section, it looks like your suppose to be using APA gu...
Yup I did 🙂
Thanks guys
lofty lark
The best part of graduating college is not having to write essays anymore.
cyan fractal
His videos are usually decent but any time someone who doesn't know much about g...
it was hard to grasp his actual point but it seems to me he's concerned about homogeneity
which I agree I don't think is really an engine problem
broken sigil
yeah
Cyberpunk sequel is apparently being made with UE5, supposed to start development next year iirc
I'm actually looking forward to that, hopefully their engine changes end up in the main UE branch
Speaking of cyberpunk... this damn song has been stuck in my head for a week now 😆
cyan fractal
Speaking of cyberpunk... this damn song has been stuck in my head for a week now...
lol i had no idea she did stuff for the soundtrack
broken sigil
Posted it here before and I'll post it again because it's great 😅
broken sigil
lol i had no idea she did stuff for the soundtrack
I don't know who she is I just like the song 😆
broken sigil
lol i had no idea she did stuff for the soundtrack
it's one of the tracks that's often on one of the radio stations
cyan fractal
I don't know who she is I just like the song 😆
i quite like this album of hers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbNNDP6IA5U
so many artists I like have ended up on the cyberpunk soundtrack, I don't really know what that means
i've not even played it so i'm always just stumbling on it by accident
broken sigil
i quite like this album of hers <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbNNDP6IA5U>
I feel like I heard some of those in cyberpunk too, sounds very familiar
broken sigil
so many artists I like have ended up on the cyberpunk soundtrack, I don't really...
Cyberpunk might have one of the best soundtracks ever lol
lofty lark
Cyberpunk might have one of the best soundtracks ever lol
gruilty gear strive says hello
broken sigil
gruilty gear strive says hello
lofty lark
broken sigil
😂
cyan fractal
Cyberpunk might have one of the best soundtracks ever lol
CDPR have good taste
lofty lark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fpUoY-L3Co
My top five would probably be 'Armored Clad Faith', 'Love the Subhuman Self', 'The Roar of the Spark', 'The Disaster of Passion', and 'Hellfire'
Mirror of the World would be in my top 5 but it's not in that mix bc it was DLC. Best theme for Best character.
one armed, one eyed, samurai ftw
broken sigil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fpUoY-L3Co
tbf I prefer the cp2077 soundtrack 😅
lofty lark
how dare you have a preference
broken sigil
pearl elk
CP2077 is dead to me cuz it was buggy on PS4 😛
broken sigil
the dlc is awesome
performance also seems quite a bit better as well, don't remember having a single hitch even
lofty lark
but what about odd hitches
tulip orbit
CP2077 is dead to me cuz it was buggy on PS4 😛
😮 you mean the next gen game wont run on last gen hardware? :p