#lounge

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lofty lark
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Great month to be a warrior for the Emperor of Mankind

empty dune
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this is a loyalist only discord

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no chaos allowed

median wraith
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Welp that looks nice

unborn lotus
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Mirage?

median wraith
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Anubis

fluid bloom
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is that chromatic aberration on the water?

chrome gull
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Which kind of dialogue presentation do you guys prefer more?

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the other one?

median wraith
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caustics that react when you move over the water surface

fluid bloom
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but do caustics separate the colours like that?

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I haven't noticed anything like that IRL 😄

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could be that I'm blind or something

median wraith
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yeah caustics always have a color aberration separation

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it depends of the deep of the water

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here is exagerated

chrome gull
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I am thinking of doing something like this:

chrome gull
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thank you

lofty lark
chrome gull
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that's why I asked lol

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noticed the bethesda thing while playing Starfield recently

lofty lark
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It's got no style to it 😔

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I like the relatively minimal design of some of the UI elements but that dialog is just bland bland

chrome gull
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which game do you think has the best dialogue selector?

lofty lark
slim atlas
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its not about the dialogue selector

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its not about UI

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what matters

chrome gull
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I am trying out several layouts

slim atlas
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the only thing that matters

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is the dialogue itself.

slim atlas
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everything else is worthless

unborn lotus
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I like ones in rpgs like Pathfinder where you can click on words and get extra lore info...i think in Morrowind you just unlocked that word and had to ask about it specifically as an response

lofty lark
chrome gull
slim atlas
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Write meaningful dialogue

chrome gull
lofty lark
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I like the way The Witcher 3 did it. Very minimal and but still very clear and readable imo

chrome gull
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I'll need to check it out

chrome gull
lofty lark
chrome gull
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the top is the NPC dialogue, bottom is the player dialogue and the widget on the right is a mood indicator

chrome gull
lofty lark
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I find it weird to have dialogue text appear at the top fo the screen personally

chrome gull
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I see

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if I put everything in the bottom, I'm worried that the widget will take up most of the screen space

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that's why the split

lofty lark
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The Witcher puts their dialogue off to the side

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Granted, the games dialogue is spoken, so the text in the option isn't the literal spoken words.

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Where as Bethesda games don't have your character speak dialogue, so they have the entire line as the text in the option

chrome gull
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ahh thank you!

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i deffo can't afford voice acting

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so that's something

lofty lark
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I feel like persona would do something like that based off images i've seen of that games UI lol. (never played it)

chrome gull
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so I drew something

lofty lark
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If you don't need all your other UI elements (health ammo hunger, etc.), that'd give you more room to play around with

chrome gull
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maybe

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i don't have a conversation system yet so

lofty lark
chrome gull
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ooh yeah that's something

lofty lark
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It doesn't feel as off as I expected it to be tbh

chrome gull
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me too

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I'd remove the black bars and keep my existing UI

lofty lark
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I'd play around with some type of bounding box around your text tho for readability.

chrome gull
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I'll try that

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thanks

lofty lark
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Their "persuasion dialogue minigame" selector I think looks better than their normal dialogue. Still really basic but we at least have an outline for the bounding box (or whatever you wanna call that darker back drop that surrounds the text)

chrome gull
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I want to rip this system off but I also want to keep my existing one

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but this decision is for much later

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so

worldly sapphire
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Game dev (and lots of other stuff) is iterative

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better to implement something now and change it later, than dawdle on it

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It's something I struggle with myself

lofty lark
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You'll never know what corrections you need to make if you don't make something to correct :p

worldly sapphire
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Exactly hah

lofty lark
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In my personal work I usually just do whatever my first idea was. Then I'll either go, "damn I'm awesome, that's perfect." or "that is horse shit." Evaluate why, then try again :p

worldly sapphire
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Often it's the first part followed by the second the morning after

chrome gull
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yeah, I figured as much

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I'll keep it simple for now

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here goes persuading someone to give you all their money based on a single random bool

austere stirrup
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Im really curious to know how are other people doing at interviews lol. Feels like I am the only that sucks and gets stressed out lol.

bronze axle
sweet rose
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sad to hear about the epic games layoffs

sweet rose
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bcoz u know ur shit

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depends

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why is biden president

austere stirrup
austere stirrup
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lol the interview is tommorow and Im already nervous

soft night
clear dust
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the interviewers may be more nervous than you

austere stirrup
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I can't im practicing for it lol

clear dust
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i mean totally, you ARE interviewing them

austere stirrup
clear dust
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How can an interviewer be nervous? lots of ways. Maybe they are inexperienced, have a deadline, are under some other pressure, maybe they want you and are afraid to scare you off, I could go on...

soft night
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embrace the moment

clear dust
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maybe they will be intimidated by your looks

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another conversation killer...

austere stirrup
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some people are saying that a 2nd interview means that you got the job

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That's hard to believe

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Is this is a good answer for the question What is your greatest weakness?

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One of my weaknesses is that I tend to be a perfectionist. I often find myself spending more time than necessary on tasks to ensure they are flawless. While this dedication to detail has its benefits, it can sometimes lead to time inefficiencies. To address this, I've been working on setting clear priorities and time limits for tasks. A more official method that can help with this is the Agile working methodology. An interface called Trello, could list all the tasks for the day and give me a more structure workflow for the day. I've also learned to recognize that 'perfect' is not always necessary and that meeting deadlines and achieving objectives are equally important.

clear dust
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some people consider the perfectionist thing a copout or something

austere stirrup
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Chat GPT all day every day baby 😘

austere stirrup
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really?

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Should I find something else?

clear dust
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I don't know. I haven't interviewed anyone for many years, and I never really asked that when I did.

austere stirrup
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Everybody has weakness and nobody is perfect anyway

tribal geyser
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naturally, but that was a decade ago (for andromeda)
Don't forget, Bioware also released Inquisition on Frostbite so the onus isn't entirely on the engine here

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Absolutely not going to say it's perfect and it's still got a ways to go but it's a metric tonne better than it was.
Worth mentioning as well, we support more games now than ever. Just the narrative hasn't shifted as people still quote games from ~7 years ago

fleet tangle
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"in early days"

lofty lark
regal pecan
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For modders or off-the-shelf engines with no source access that kind of epithet that would make sense, but I never understood it when applied to studios that have source code and competent programmers.

Besides that, FPS is the most versatile genre. You can do almost everything with a 3d perspective camera.

fleet tangle
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Everything that isn't directly related to that is just icing on teh cake, as it were.

regal pecan
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The first UE was built to make Unreal... or was Unreal made to show off UE? Probably the latter. I don't think UE4 had any particular game in mind, but the after what happened with SVOGI I imagine things changed rapidly.

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Are there any arguments against Fortnite being in the driving seat for UE5?

timber viper
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I know someone IRL who also annoy people just by sending cat pictures

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maybe I should join him too

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sounds really fun tbh

fleet tangle
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Well, it's better than dick pics.

steel summit
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What if you got all fancy and used that new AI image tool where it’s an image of cats but it subtlety looks like a dick if you squint your eyes.

fleet tangle
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Why would anyone want that?

timber viper
steel summit
fleet tangle
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I wonder how much of that is real

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Whether it's entirely generated or just bent.

steel summit
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All Ai

fleet tangle
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Oh yeah.

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That guy has 3 legs.

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It's all AI or he has a very happy gf

steel summit
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They share the same leg?

regal pecan
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Don't think his gf is entertained by an actual third leg.

fleet tangle
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Maybe she really likes winning 3 legged races.

nova meteor
vagrant roost
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unity refugee here, time to start my unreal journey 😔

broken sigil
vagrant roost
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haha...

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this is gonna be hell

tulip orbit
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just lounge

regal pecan
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We're more accommodating to refugees than 89% of EU countries. (Citation needed)

timber viper
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11% is Turkey as whole with 13 million refugees

fleet tangle
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Also hi.

vagrant roost
woven wing
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Watching people work in zbrush is so impressive

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It's like Spongebob hitting the marble with a chisel and a statue pops out

lofty lark
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construct that doesn’t really exist
Just like how B̸̒̃l̵̆͊u̷͑̉e̵̓͠ ̴̉̿M̶̛͒å̷n's reali̸͋̃t̶̾̒y̵̆̃ is a s̸̒̓i̷̾͗m̴̅̾ŭ̴lation

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Is this what it felt like to live in a day and age of greek philosophers living on the street?

broken sigil
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It makes more sense if you look at the MJ server 😅

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Midjourney

unborn lotus
broken sigil
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I had to remove that...

broken sigil
regal pecan
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This is not that kind of discord.

broken sigil
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It is still disturbing to look at
Which I don't think anyone here actually wants to see

unborn lotus
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yeah no one wants to see your selfies Lamp

broken sigil
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exactly

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jumpscaring us here out of nowhere like that

unborn lotus
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MODS! 🫠

timber viper
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just another regular day in lounge

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'tis you?

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makes sense though

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your bio

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meanwhile <@&213101288538374145> (also where that silent report button went?)

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just because he's sleeping dont assume he wouldnt ban or strike you

tall plume
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take the edge off your posting

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it sucks

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dont do this

fathom wadi
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This person is a blatent troll. The abuse they shoved at me the other day was completely out of line and caused me to curse back and block them.

empty dune
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goddamn discord swallowed all my messages

stone saddle
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stop and drop the conversation, thank you

timber viper
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its weird if I would go slightly offtopic I would get warned and then get a strike immediately if I continue, but this gets 1000x more tolerance

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especially since all mods are here

stone saddle
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something is not working correctly with the bot, we are addressing it now

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for now, drop the conversation entirely

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thank you

timber viper
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ah alright, sorry for accusation then

empty dune
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oh wow, did she get banned?

spare glade
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Yes

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This isn't their first warning

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Hence now gone.

errant raven
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Hi

stone saddle
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Please refrain for antagonizing other users, if someone is acting out of line, alert us, and we'll address it

timber viper
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quinn doesnt appear anymore

stone saddle
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Apps>

timber viper
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oh

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baka me

stone saddle
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same place it's been for ages now >_>

empty dune
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also, im still trying to figure out where my swallowed messages went

timber viper
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i survive with 3 brain cells so I forgot

spare glade
empty dune
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i was trying to respond to jack

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but discord said "not today"

timber viper
empty dune
stone saddle
errant raven
empty dune
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yeah idk either, i was typing, i could see all of your messages but mine were being banished to the nether realms

errant raven
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You cannot pass on a Holmgang

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Good Asgard

stone saddle
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you heathens will not drag me down with you in this chat, this is the danger zone, i'm going back to my safe zone, voice chat

timber viper
errant raven
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Alien

timber viper
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it'd nice to chat about japanese with you though sad sucks I dont like voicechat

fathom wadi
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I miss Robin Williams so much

stone saddle
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❤️

empty dune
stone saddle
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i haven't changed it in like 1.5 years or something and people still fail it every single day, i don't think you people are ready for level 2

empty dune
regal pecan
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I wonder if there's an easy way to calculate the odds of winning that minesweeper map legitimately with no foreknowledge. It must be low.

empty dune
empty dune
empty dune
broken sigil
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Oh wow what happened here

errant raven
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War

errant raven
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Bloodshed

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Pillaging

regal pecan
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Turned out Mothds do not love lamp

timber viper
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@terse wasp what was the fast food company you were fan of that is near Epic HQ?

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I ate popeyes in here, it was terrible. Idk why Tim likes it so much

regal pecan
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New Orleans?

timber viper
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I will try KFC tomorrow

timber viper
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What makes it so good?

terse wasp
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Cheap and good

timber viper
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Hm

terse wasp
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Tastes fairly close to actual grilled food

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And it's fast food

timber viper
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If I was living in US I would eat it all day then

terse wasp
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If I was close to one, so would I

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It's good that I'm not

timber viper
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My options here are limited with burger king, mcd, popeyes and kfc

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Rarely subway

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All suck equally

terse wasp
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I really don't eat much fried food to be honest. So I'm typically not a fan of Popeyes or KFC

timber viper
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I like chicken a lot, especially if its fast food

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I'll try all of these one day

terse wasp
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I was thinking you were in the States temporarily and was like...dafuq you doin' here, lol

errant raven
timber viper
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Just need to arrive to border

regal pecan
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Hah

terse wasp
timber viper
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Especially from mexico border

errant raven
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Who's biden

terse wasp
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It's more, "why would you want to come to a 3rd world country dressed in Gucci"

terse wasp
errant raven
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U.S is a third world country?

regal pecan
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Coming to the US illegally without an asylum claim is probably not a good plan. Worse if it's a thin asylum claim.

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But if you come to the US to try out restaurants, they'll probably give you a free flag with your tourist VISA.

timber viper
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If I had money I could visit US, Visa is not an issue

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But even if you earn enough plane tickets are so damn expensive

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iirc it makes up around 5k

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Two tickets

broken sigil
timber viper
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I will try belgium instead, belgian fries looks so damn good

regal pecan
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Turkiye to US direct is pretty far.

terse wasp
broken sigil
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To San Francisco is 1.2k

timber viper
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10k rent LA go brr

broken sigil
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Which still sounds pretty reasonable

terse wasp
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Both of these cities you have selected have a dense amount of people. No thanks.

timber viper
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I like georgia

terse wasp
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So does Russia

timber viper
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And atlanta

terse wasp
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Eh. People.

regal pecan
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Do you like cows?

broken sigil
terse wasp
timber viper
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I am not into gender politics so trying to decide on something wont make me get harassed just because I said he by mistake instead of they/them/whatever

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Recently listened a story of my IRL friend went through something similar to this in US

terse wasp
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Eh - that doesn't happen as much in person. It's just highlighted on the interwebs really.

terse wasp
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Sucks how racist the south is though

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Good with the bad I guess

timber viper
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Where is the people similar to GTA V in US

terse wasp
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GTA V was california

timber viper
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That the ones they portrayed as "drink beer eat pizza"

terse wasp
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GTA also accentuates w/e thing they're doing.

broken sigil
terse wasp
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But "drink bear eat pizza" is fairly universal in the states. So pretty much anywhere you go.

timber viper
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Is texas scary though

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Would I die there xD

terse wasp
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Depends how white you are and where you are

timber viper
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Im white but not a florasan light either

broken sigil
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Like neon white

terse wasp
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y'all would be fine

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And yeah, Texas style of food is pretty good too

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That TexMex 😋

bronze axle
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Mmmm Tex Mex.

timber viper
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This convo made me hungry

broken sigil
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If I ever visit US it's probably gonna be for something like GDC or something

terse wasp
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sigh - I hate when people do ternaries inside of a ternary

bronze axle
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I was bummed about today, so I baked some blueberry lemon scones.

terse wasp
timber viper
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Wait.. How about new jersey?

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Is it any good?

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Food wise

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I heard pizza is great there

terse wasp
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Pizza is probably pretty good. It's right next to NYC

broken sigil
broken sigil
terse wasp
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I'd imagine you'd fine more European cuisines there though. Just because how immigration happened in the past and traditionally

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In any of the major hub areas, you're going to be able to encounter pretty much all the food from the various regions of the States

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However, the quality won't be as good as if you had them in their respective home region

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It'll still be pretty good though.

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Obviously some establishments will be worse due to just general quality though

broken sigil
terse wasp
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I'm unfamiliar

timber viper
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cyberpunk 2077 NPCs

terse wasp
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Ah. They were so lifeless when I played, I ignored all the dialogue

broken sigil
# terse wasp I'm unfamiliar

It's from cyberpunk, the special police "units" that are supposed to come for "cyberpsychos"

In the new update they come after you when you have 5 stars

It's actually quite cool

timber viper
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at 5 star they actually assume you are cyberpsycho 😄

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not because you are dangerous

terse wasp
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I'm still trying to get through Starfield, lol. Just been too busy to play

timber viper
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because its a company not a police unit

broken sigil
timber viper
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nope

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no direct connection

empty dune
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all maxtac are ex cyberpsychos

timber viper
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maxtac is completely separate from NCPD

empty dune
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thats how they can take on other cyberpsychos

lofty lark
empty dune
timber viper
bronze axle
timber viper
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they are a company lore-wise

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like that medical unit thingy

lofty lark
broken sigil
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Hm I'm not too familiar with the lore outside of the game

bronze axle
empty dune
empty dune
timber viper
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MaxTac officers serve as the final enemy type to hunt down V in the event of criminal activity (four stars). On higher difficulties they are capable of killing V in just a few shots, regardless of level.

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5 stars means insta-die then

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Their reputation certainly isn't helped by rumors that the rare cyberpsychos taken alive are quietly reprogrammed and welcomed into the division.

broken sigil
# timber viper 5 stars means insta-die then

Oh yeah they one shot you, at least did when I tired

They tase you, blind you and kill you instantly

But the whole sequence of first hacking your car, disabling it and landing in front of you in the middle of the city is quite cool looking

fathom wadi
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The Dogtown map is so good. Feels so grimy and I keep finding new things everywhere

timber viper
empty dune
timber viper
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interesting

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didnt encounter

bronze axle
timber viper
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raindust looks dangerous

empty dune
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ion is coming for you vazu

broken sigil
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I bought phantom liberty when it released, installed the dlc but tf2 has been taking quite a bit of my time so I haven't tried it yet cry

celest musk
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it's good

timber viper
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when main game is still buggy

timber viper
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without a ping

empty dune
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he cannot rest for he knows ion is coming

broken sigil
# timber viper i did not bought, not planning to either

I played the original game literally the day it came out, played it, finished

Encountered pretty much no bugs, maybe a few small ones
Went online to check what others thought about the game and was extremely confused when I saw all the complaining because for me the game was amazing lol

empty dune
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i played the game day 1 and didnt encounter any bugs either..............problem is, i also didnt encounter those long list of features they promised before launch and quietly cut

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that was my breaking point with that game

broken sigil
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Phantom liberty has been getting like 9/10 and 10/10 reviews so can't wait to actually play it

timber viper
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or 48 not sure

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probably 48

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yeah it was 48, took me two days

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it wasnt buggy but very laggy

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not to mention how denoiser sucks

broken sigil
timber viper
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i think mine was around 60hrs

broken sigil
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I'm debating if I should play again from scratch or just play the dlc

bronze axle
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I'm excited for Star Ocean: The Second Story R in November. My most anticipated game of the year.

empty dune
broken sigil
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Yeah

unborn lotus
timber viper
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real question is

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militech vs arasaka

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in canon story militech exploded an atom bomb at arasaka HQ

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but in cp77 its the johnny

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i think in canon militech is slightly more powerful than arasaka, especially in NUSA

graceful sequoia
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oh the johnny

timber viper
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but in cp77 arasaka feels more powerful

median wraith
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Seems like all the companies are firing people at the same time, why is that?
Ones overlap others?

unborn lotus
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recession!

fluid bloom
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it's because companies went on an absolutely crazy acquisition/hiring phase a year ago or so

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now they're cutting the fat off

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and for whatever reason end of the year is typically when companies let people go

proud jay
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at least for the big tech, a lot of them are borrowing lots of money, if they have to pay higher interestss, they can't get that much money

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also just realizing they hired too many people in a lot of cases

dusky bobcat
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Well, not only game industry, basically the hi-tech related industries.

rare sparrow
proud jay
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it only charges when someone installs your game

stone saddle
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in fairness n64 games were often 70 bucks back in 1997, the costs of making games has sky rocketed, but the sticker price went down and then back up now to 70 (not even taking inflation into consideration and it's been nearly 30 years)

proud jay
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well technology also improve to reduce production costs if you were making the same games as then

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and the audience has grown tremendously

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you can't be making record profits every year and then say you need to raise prices cause you're struggling

stone saddle
stone saddle
proud jay
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plenty of games without a budget of millions still are popular though

stone saddle
proud jay
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they can do what they want, but I'm already not buying games at 70 dollars

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so let alone I would buy them at 80

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I only buy 60 dollar full price maybe twice a year anyway lol

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there's not that many great games that interest me

stone saddle
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yea, i don't have time to play shit, so i rarely buy anything

unborn lotus
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does this mean indie devs can charge 40 now?

stone saddle
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but i'll fork over my soul for ff7 rebirth lol

proud jay
stone saddle
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I think well made indie games should easily be able to charge based on the value they are providing

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however, many of them see larger revenue from their lower price

proud jay
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well they do have lower marketing costs to "recoup" most often too

stone saddle
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it's the big studios that are leveraging their IP to make the 70 bucks price "reasonable"

proud jay
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and no name to go with it per se

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it's just harder to convince people

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I for one am sick and tired of every AAA studio making games that take 100 hours to complete

stone saddle
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Sometimes i want that, sometimes i don't

proud jay
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give me 4 - 20 hours and I'm happy

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who has time to complete all those

stone saddle
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i don't need a 40 hour story mode for a fighting game or a fps

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a good RPG though, gimme all the hours lol

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hell, the amount of time i've sunk into vampire survivors is humiliating

proud jay
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have you finished bg3?

stone saddle
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I dare not play it, as i will lose weeks of my life

proud jay
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too bad

stone saddle
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but i want to so badly

proud jay
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it's nice

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I'm still in act 2 though lol

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I'm slow af

stone saddle
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I'll find time in the near future to play it

proud jay
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don't play all that much

stone saddle
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maybe after new years or something

proud jay
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thing is though, they keep getting away with it

dusky bobcat
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Unity version control is pretty good

proud jay
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some people just really like buying the same football game every year

dusky bobcat
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(Basically plastic lol

proud jay
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well, it is plastic

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they bought it

worldly mesa
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this displeases me.

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as usual, i'm late to the party.. but still 🙂

worldly mesa
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lol 😁

proud jay
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wth are unity gaming services

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is that ads or something?

worldly mesa
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matchmaking and server hosting, and yeah, probably ads too

proud jay
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why would you use unity for that though

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the only thing they have going for them is it's easy to integrate if you're using unity

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other that that I think they probably don't really compete with others

worldly mesa
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i don't know the details, but i tend to agree. seems rather unnecessarily redundant

median wraith
median wraith
#

Also feels real bad that some people know from the community of Epic is fired...

dusky bobcat
median wraith
#

does EOS have any server hosting service ?

worldly mesa
#

Epic does not have their own servers for us to use. we generally integrate into PlayFab or AWS. EOS does handle match making and other things though

proud jay
proud jay
dusky bobcat
worldly mesa
#

sigh

proud jay
#

you just have to be creative with statistics

worldly mesa
#

i've been seeing a Lot of that in the 'news' lately

proud jay
#

sorry, I only read the 'olds'

proud jay
#

I really like the old paper aesthetic

#

not that I read papers

#

I mean, this is just boring right

worldly mesa
#

i read that as, More blasting near the kirk dam. not really, virtual reality testing

proud jay
#

it means, more tax payer money going to church than to VRT

worldly mesa
#

wow

proud jay
#

VRT is the public tv channel

#

and news

#

like the bbc for the uk

#

idk the name

worldly mesa
#

i am just trying to make a few million dollars so i can build my underground fortress and get away from all this BS

proud jay
#

public broadcaster?

worldly mesa
#

in the US we have PBS which is Public Broadcasting Station, but it is not completely open to the public. we also have NPR National Public Radio, but it tends to lean politically. Public broadcaster, state run tv, IDK, several names apply, i suppose

graceful sequoia
#

wait how is PBS not open to the public

worldly mesa
#

can you go post a show on there right now?

graceful sequoia
#

I think you're thinking of local access

worldly mesa
#

what is public about PBS?

graceful sequoia
#

but I get that you mean "I can't go put a show on it"

proud jay
#

I mean

#

that's not really the intention of public broadcasting

#

it's for the government providing entertainment/news

#

available to everyone for free

worldly mesa
#

i.e. state run tv

graceful sequoia
#

ironically PBS is not run by the government

#

it's a corporation

#

because america

worldly mesa
#

and they ask for donations

#

names in the USA do not really mean as much as they do in other places. i should say, are not as accurate and informative

#

LLC

#

LLC leaves you with basically no liability

proud jay
#

idk, but it contains monsters

#

people creating companies with personal liability are wild

#

it's easier though here

worldly mesa
#

exact opposite of the intent, for sure. But, the fact that corporations essentially have more rights and protections than a person is a very frightening thing

proud jay
#

like if you want one without liability you need a business plan and some startup costs

worldly mesa
#

Why didn't i think of that! i knew i was doing it wrong this reincarnation!

proud jay
#

I mean you can live as a corporation for a lot of things

#

a one person corp

worldly mesa
#

i am honestly not sure about the stipulations

#

according to CGPT, yes. 1 person Can be a corporation in most jurisdictions

#

here is the LLC i mentioned earlier
"Limited Liability: One of the primary reasons individuals choose to form a corporation, even if they are the sole owner and operator, is to benefit from limited liability protection. This means that the individual's personal assets are generally protected from the corporation's liabilities. If the corporation faces financial problems or legal issues, the owner's personal assets are usually not at risk beyond their investment in the corporation."

proud jay
#

or uk

worldly mesa
#

i technically own a couple of small corporations, but i have not done anything with them in 20 years. i probably do not own the names anymore

proud jay
#

idk where you are

worldly mesa
#

i'm in the USA. currently in the heart of debauchery-ville. i am in las vegas right now

#

i'd imagine the laws are similar, at least, where you are. but actually, i can never be sure any more :/

tribal geyser
unborn lotus
#

We got new laws and tax brackets that are not progressive..if I make a lil bit more I'll be losing like 5-7k in taxes 😩

tribal geyser
#

In house, purpose built for the game teams
They get a say in the direction and not at an engineering cost to them

proud jay
#

what country has tax rates that are not progressive

#

was this romania?

unborn lotus
#

It's 3% income tax now, versus 16% on the next bracket if I go past the threshold

#

Yeah, not progressive and everyone is mad

proud jay
#

yeah but isn't that only on the 16% in that bracket?

unborn lotus
#

But at least they're still only under 20%

unborn lotus
proud jay
#

imagine paying less than 20% in taxes lol

unborn lotus
#

It is a company though

proud jay
#

oh that's even worse here lol

upper oracle
proud jay
#

paying taxes is our national sport

unborn lotus
#

Yeah but you get shit from them

#

We pay taxes for "special" pensions

#

For every one working in the gorvernment

proud jay
#

you think our government doesn't line their pockets too?

unborn lotus
#

So I gotta figure out ways to make less money now hurrah

proud jay
#

maybe less egregious

#

but still some scandals

proud jay
unborn lotus
#

To hold right?

proud jay
#

sure...

#

hold, in my bank account

#

until I spend it

#

but this is tax on your company

#

do you have a partner?

#

have them set up a company to consult for you and pay them so that your company falls under the threshold again

unborn lotus
#

Sadly it's income tax not profit, so no legal loopholes other than make another company

#

Then another and another

upper oracle
proud jay
#

I mean why not

unborn lotus
#

It's be easier if it was based off profit, I'd just spend more on shit

proud jay
#

it's based on revenue?

#

what kind of tax is that lol

#

wth

upper oracle
#

I don't think I'd ever make more than 44k a year lmao so 12% here

unborn lotus
#

If revenue is pure income yes, I mean the brackets are income based, not profit based

proud jay
#

why

unborn lotus
#

Like everything I bill

#

They are not smart people

upper oracle
#

Maybe you should invest in an accountant?

#

They can usually find loopholes like that

#

Claiming things

proud jay
#

so if you have a company that makes 1M but you spend 950k you pay more taxes than a company making 50k with no expenses?

#

in theory of course

#

that seems like a shit system

#

does this not discourage any kind of growth

unborn lotus
#

Hmm it depends

#

If you make 1M you go in 16% tax on profits, if you make less than 60k, you only pay 3% on tax on income not profits

#

I guess you'd have to spend 30-40k so your profit is minimzed

proud jay
#

but you're going from 3 to 16 so you jump to the profit section?

unborn lotus
#

Yes

proud jay
#

so that's easy

#

just spend more

#

like I said, hire your wife, if you have one

unborn lotus
#

My wife is already employed lol

#

Im her boss so to speak

proud jay
#

if you look at belgian companies you will notice most of them have a profit suspiciously close to 0

#

like my company has 160M in revenue, but our profit is at like only a few million

graceful sequoia
#

uhh

#

are we talking about us taxes here

proud jay
#

no

upper oracle
#

various countries rex

proud jay
#

I think

upper oracle
#

rez*

graceful sequoia
#

ok good lol

proud jay
#

I'm talking about belgium

#

I think hristew is eastern europe?

graceful sequoia
#

cause in the US there's no profit or revenue difference to the irs

graceful sequoia
#

but you claim credits on various expenses to make it seem that way

proud jay
#

it's not evasion

#

it's avoidance

unborn lotus
proud jay
#

it's legal

unborn lotus
#

Fiscal optimization

graceful sequoia
#

lol

unborn lotus
#

It's only cool when us small players do it

proud jay
#

as long as you can justify the cost in some way there's nothing wrong with it

graceful sequoia
proud jay
#

if you're not doing a maximum effort of avoiding taxes in belgium, you're doing it wrong

#

unfortunately most of the avoiding is only possible for companies

#

which is truly one of the reasons I've been considering freelancing lol

unborn lotus
#

We lost EU funding because they would not give up their pensions

graceful sequoia
#

just make sure to have an accountant

proud jay
#

yup

unborn lotus
proud jay
#

I only do legal things

graceful sequoia
#

VAT evasion

#

wooooow

proud jay
#

idk what you're talking about

graceful sequoia
#

dieters on a roll tonight

proud jay
#

it's morning here

graceful sequoia
proud jay
#

speaking of morning, I should make some coffee 🤔

#

I mean, even the less legal tax or VAT evasion is pretty common here

#

not saying it's good

#

but belgian taxes are insane

graceful sequoia
#

VAT is a pain in the ass even for americans

#

I have a big ass check coming from Spain but avoiding double tax requires a very annoying process...

proud jay
#

imagine going to buy groceries and having to calculate what you're gonna have to pay

proud jay
proud jay
#

I had to sign one when I bought some american stocks

#

to avoid double tax on dividends

graceful sequoia
#

gotta go to the irs and get certificates so that the payer can legally not pay vat

proud jay
#

but what if you just don't tell them about the sale though 🤔

#

what could go wrong with fraud

#

it seems to be heavily rewarded in the US

graceful sequoia
#

and they are the ones paying the vat before sending me the money soooo

proud jay
#

you earn 400 million through fraud, pay a 20 million fine and go to jail for 3 months

#

profit

graceful sequoia
#

in America, white collar crime generally has nice digs from what I hear

proud jay
#

all our prisons are pretty nice

#

you can have like laptops and shit

#

if there were no other prisoners I don't think it would be that bad

graceful sequoia
proud jay
#

🤑

graceful sequoia
#

it's an equitable system that definitely doesn't take advantage of the poor and minorities

proud jay
#

it also definetily does not incentivize the prisons to not reform the inmates so they never come back

graceful sequoia
#

liberty and justice.... for Tom the tax fraud guy

graceful sequoia
proud jay
#

that guy's uncle

graceful sequoia
#

hehehe

#

ok but seriously putting the two nodes side by side

#

smh

proud jay
#

some people just do be crazy like that

#

Is discord dead or just me?

#

I mean lol

graceful sequoia
#

well

#

we all knew this day would come

#

they are coming for the shit posters and they started with you

#

and doing it via Cloudflare no less

#

rude

proud jay
#

I wonder what triggered it

#

And why my phone is not blocked

graceful sequoia
#

phone probably hitting it over mobile

#

maybe falling back?

#

like I said, coming for the shit posters

#

I'm next

#

ayyyyyyy

#

considering this same phone is fine on the app

#

probably a sysadmin has made a grave mistake

#

or Cloudflare has, and the whole internets going down

proud jay
#

That’s what I had too a few seconds before

late solstice
#

oh mobile still works

proud jay
#

Downdetector is saying it’s not just me

graceful sequoia
#

hm. so for me I loaded discord.com in browser and it worked, then reloaded the page and it failed, but mobile app has no issues

#

(all on phone)

#

just email discord your ray ids

proud jay
#

I’m using discord in browser, there is no cache

#

Except browser cache

#

Which I just cleared

graceful sequoia
#

uhhh

#

tell me your not a web dev without saying your not a web dev

proud jay
#

I’m looking at the roaming folder though

graceful sequoia
#

see that's. that's not. never mind god

celest musk
#

had it, too

graceful sequoia
#

ok well bens not a shit poster so that wrecks my theory

celest musk
#

little do you know...

graceful sequoia
#

oh I can't wait

hollow dawn
#

yep same here, got blocked by discord till just now lol... wtf

proud jay
#

Well hard refresh did something

#

But now stuck on loding

hollow dawn
#

\o/ works again it seems

graceful sequoia
#

if we give it about ten minutes I should be able to tell if it's Cloudflare wide by checking how much more worthless my worthless Cloudflare shares have become

celest musk
#

the plot thickens

hollow dawn
#

yep cloudflare... same same

proud jay
#

it's back

#

slow af though

graceful sequoia
#

same

#

they wouldn't lie about that

celest musk
#

well it was a cloudflare screen, so it's not on discords end...

graceful sequoia
#

actually no

#

as a Cloudflare site operator, you can royally fuck yourself

#

and it would look exactly like it just did

#

that's why I mentioned rays

proud jay
#

well at least now I discovered I forgot my discord password

graceful sequoia
#

you can punch those bad boys into cloudflares console to figure out just what dumb shit you added to WAF to cause it

proud jay
#

I hate WAF

hollow dawn
#

dont worry the internet prolly knows your password somewhere

proud jay
#

flagging so much of our shit as risks lol

proud jay
stone saddle
#

that was fun being banned for 10 minutes lol

#

it's back up now

proud jay
#

now you know what it feels like

stone saddle
#

right!?!

proud jay
#

on the other side for once

hollow dawn
#

not even banned, blocked

stone saddle
#

oh true, blocked

hollow dawn
#

sounds like a minecraft thing tbh

graceful sequoia
#

I wonder if mobile app legit hits a different endpoint than web

#

actually that's quite possible -- it's stylish to proxy your APIs on the same domain as your web app

#

in this case it would have broken the service whereas non-web clients continued to work

hollow dawn
#

well it appears it happened on all kinds of clients, i used desktop

celest musk
#

did you guys get that error in the actual discord app?

stone saddle
#

yea

graceful sequoia
#

yeah perhaps desktop uses the same web endpoints?

celest musk
#

or did it only affect web page users?

stone saddle
#

and web

graceful sequoia
#

anyone have fails on mobile? (android/iOS, app not web)

stone saddle
#

nah, nothing on mobile from anyone i've seen

#

must have different path or endpoint

celest musk
#

weird since ip blocks are more likely to happen on mobile tho 😄

graceful sequoia
#

Slacker community is highly desktop oriented ime

hollow dawn
#

lets just code a new discord, in UE blueprints

celest musk
#

at least here mobile traffic runs through a provider NAT

stone saddle
celest musk
#

so it can happen that 2 persons have the same ipv4 address at the same time (happened to me before)

graceful sequoia
proud jay
hollow dawn
#

thats why they invented ipv6... cause numbers ran out

graceful sequoia
celest musk
#

probably later

graceful sequoia
#

almost certainly they are shipping A and AAAA for all services still

hollow dawn
graceful sequoia
#

because musk can't do anything right

stone saddle
graceful sequoia
#

literally owns x.com, literally can't figure out how to move it

proud jay
stone saddle
#

it does?

graceful sequoia
stone saddle
#

gotcha lol

celest musk
#

domain is probably their most valuable asset now

hollow dawn
#

godaddy.... x.com... sounds like lewd boobie pics

stone saddle
proud jay
graceful sequoia
stone saddle
#

lol, someone has it parked

graceful sequoia
#

I will degrade myself publically if the US ends up in an everything app society a la WeChat and it's X and not tiktok

proud jay
#

luckily musk is incompetent

#

and in theory the laws should block this

graceful sequoia
#

yeah it's unlikely to be either

#

but tiktok is cunning

#

and musk wants people to pay to use Twitter at it's base level?

proud jay
#

there is simply no other way to distinguish from bots

median wraith
#

back to phpBB then

graceful sequoia
proud jay
#

there's a reason discord blocked us all

#

it's cause we're bots

tiny bone
proud jay
#

I hope that's you in your pic

#

that would explain a lot

tiny bone
#

I'll leave you to ponder

graceful sequoia
#

the story of wechat is super interesting. they are basically the consumer equivalent of the "well just hack something together for the client" -- just, you know, insanely more lucrative

tiny bone
#

Yeah I'm familiar, hence my comment 🙂

graceful sequoia
#

oh god

#

my desktop discord is definitely still dead from the thing

#

and stuck in full screen

#

phew there we go

#

yep had to murder roaming

proud jay
#

Omg

#

Down again

#

Ffs discord

graceful sequoia
#

man that sysadmin is persistent

#

your right, this must be user error

#

actually impressed they see indicators at all

#

the desktop app had the entire page showing the CF error page

#

so no idea what can be reporting the issue

#

perhaps it's just an external health check-- a stretch to call that only 'increased API errors" but sure

proud jay
#

they didn't say it was their api

fleet tangle
#

Damn.

pearl elk
#

could be worse, whole ANZ bank went offline today

fleet tangle
#

Is there a way, in Discord, to scroll to the latest notification in a channel?

lean marsh
#

Is all text in discord suddenly italicized after restart for anyone else?

Disappeared after restarting again, seems to have been a weird bug.

pearl elk
#

and the other week it was Toyota I think, a heap of production lines went offline

graceful sequoia
#

that's what the screenshot is

proud jay
#

no I mean

#

they say API issues

#

not discord api issues

graceful sequoia
#

hehe

#

fair

#

probably ChatGPTs fault tbh

#

but if they want to call "misconfiguring Cloudflare" an upstream API issue, welp

#

100% spammy green accounts

proud jay
#

Omg

#

Again

#

Pls

fleet tangle
#

Oooh

#

I'd try that if discord wasn't broken 😂

proud jay
#

That’s it, we’re moving this server to slack

#

And call it unreal discorders

unreal ether
#

Don't forget the subreddit called r/UnrealLemmyers

fleet tangle
#

Oh that mentions thing is fantastic.

#

Did not see that.

#

Or even know it existed.

#

Thanks!

proud jay
#

Omg

#

Broken again

#

How can this be so shit

analog lily
#

Funmy how things degrade instead of improve over time

unborn lotus
#

like our bodies

analog lily
#

Some stuff gets better, some get worse :p

proud jay
#

Not even correct german in the comment that I read

proud jay
#

why is discord like this

#

now server is dead

#

I like how you can see when discord died cause of me starting my sentences with capitalized letters

#

except for I

fleet tangle
#

That's pretty lax of them.

proud jay
#

you're way behind, they're on CS101 now

pearl elk
#

10/10 would recommend, fluffy cows ftw

proud jay
fleet tangle
worldly sapphire
#

One of these days I'm going to move to a mountain cottage, have my own little veggie garden and not touch technology anymore

pearl elk
empty dune
#

finally got out of the discord gulag

median wraith
#

Damm this is back

lofty lark
#

nitro speeds up the server speed. hence the name, nitro

median wraith
#

The whole Discord window was this for me

#

even no self window border

unborn lotus
#

The great blackout of 23

#

Actually did work today

median wraith
#

haha

#

The scopes are sad for the aug etc

#

But I prefer that scope style tbh

#

yeah is baked

unborn lotus
#

Source 2 has a great baker, hl alyx stuff is baked and looks amazing

median wraith
#

backed + realtime blend

#

if you go to office is too good inside

#

you can tell the light smooth and blending is awesome

#

There is a filtering also helping this and some kind of glare effect source engine always had but now is purified and increased

unborn lotus
#

Those reflection in the yellow beam look 100% real

median wraith
#

yeah this looks really cool

#

fun fact there is caustics also moving at the celing

#

nice details

#

you can tell the light comming from this ring on the bake lmao

#

could nice if they add some cool modes to this

#

But yeah this will look way better than the realtime light techs for sure

#

GPU baking is still years ahead of what you will get in realtime

#

There is also an awesome indirect shadows tech going on there for realtime bodies

#

could be something like the indirect shadows from UE but not sure about

#

you can see in the floor, isn't SSAO

#

comes with projection from the light

woven wing
#

I learned the other day that Valorant doesn't have player shadows

#

Was reading through Riot's writeup on it

clear dust
#

How interesting...

clear dust
#

In somewhat of a contrast The Cycle:Frontier had player shadows facing the wrong way

#

maybe the AI takeover is starting

errant raven
#

Cool maps but the egirl edating weirdos ruin the game

errant raven
unborn lotus
#

R8 is better

clear dust
errant raven
#

Lore

#

The only cartoonish video I'll play is fortnite

errant raven
woven wing
#

Thinking about playing video games :)
Playing video games :(
Thinking about making video games :(
Making video games :)

errant raven
#

No one smiles when making a video game

clear dust
# errant raven What lore

i dont follow Valorant at all, so when you said the thing about egirls and weirdos i thought maybe you meant Valorant added little storylines into the game or something, like comics that I have seen in other games.

errant raven
#

No

#

I mean actually people

clear dust
#

ohhhhh

errant raven
#

The valo server on discord is the breeding grounds for it

#

A cockroach nest

clear dust
#

love the choice of words lol

#

"breeding" grounds for egirl edating weirdos

errant raven
#

Yes

#

An infestation that raid cant even fix

clear dust
#

discord servers tend to turn into that

#

why I am in only two discords

woven wing
#

I'm in 1 discord, and a discord for every tool I use

median wraith
#

My website works at least so

woven wing
#

Like Maya, Blender, Unreal, Fluid Ninja, ZBrush servers

errant raven
#

Wdym weapons dont pass cross walls

clear dust
#

is Chat GPT associated with twitch?

woven wing
#

I don't think Amazon has really joined the AI war yet

errant raven
#

Ai is so shit still

clear dust
#

I was asking because it send a verification code to my phone that came from one of the numbers that twitch sends me codes from

errant raven
#

Dk why people who dont know anything related to computers/programming are scared of it

#

@broken sigil get in here nerdy dan

lofty lark
#

cloudflare is (potentially) saving you from LoL.

errant raven
#

What do you know about grinding, you're not a blacksmith smh

empty dune
#

Trust me bro, et al

#

i just saw a close friend of mine online and playing fifa 2023

#

i know what must be done

errant raven
#

Sports games are just iPhones of the gaming world

#

Getting paid huge to copy and paste

empty dune
#

and a new version every year that adds nothing

#

no i was still hung up on how they added swipe on keyboard

errant raven
#

What's the difference between titanium and whatever titanium apple marketed for their iphone 15

empty dune
#

never seen such marvel of technology before

errant raven
#

Isnt titanium relatively cheap to

empty dune
#

"forza is a racing game, whats there to add? guns?"

errant raven
#

The magic being the dude behind the PCB designing

#

Their engineers dont deserve a raise, they deserve to work for a better company

empty dune
#

comes with a shotgun and two shells, to put yourself out of your misery later

#

right

#

it was made to save the environment

errant raven
#

What's the second shell for

#

Kurt only needed one shell

#

Be like kurt

errant raven
#

That doesnt look like a bard

#

Looks like reggiggas had a a baby with krampus

empty dune
#

huh

#

ghost ping

errant raven
#

Well lead guitarist

#

The bass player was a Npc dude, basically the patches of the guitar hero games

fleet tangle
#

@timber viper i need this in a t shirt

timber viper
#

lmao

#

is this ep12?

fleet tangle
#

13!

timber viper
#

oh there is 13!

#

I'm still on 10 😄