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broken sigil
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Luckily not Rust ๐Ÿ˜…

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I'm having a little science experiment berk

broken sigil
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what would be your preferred syntax, considering it's supposed to be context free parsing and const by default

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That's one of the reason why I'm mostly leaning towards MyInt: int = 0
For inferred types it would end up MyInt: = 0;(or MyInt := 0;, both would be valid syntax)

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Noted ๐Ÿ˜…

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so it would be MyInt: int = 0; for const and var MyInt: int = 0; for mutable (previously wanted to use mut)

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yeah I'm leaning on the : operator at the moment for context free parsing but might have other uses for : as well so I might end up needing let in there as well

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I'm basically attempting to do "reimagined" C++ ๐Ÿ˜…
Solving some of the worst issues with C++, native dependency manager and toolchain and a bunch of other stuff

Don't really expect it to ever be a proper complete language because who the hell is gonna write the entirety of the standard library (beyond the basics)
But the language core is going nicely at the moment

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Tbf it's a bit different ๐Ÿ˜…
I'm not compiling to C++, I'm using LLVM, so LLVM IR -> machine code

Allows me to do things differently than what a transpiler from Cpp2 to Cpp would be able to do
But comes with the issue of having to write the standard library myself, which in the case of C++ might not be a bad idea at all lol

Plus should be able to support native interop with C++ without too much issues

timber viper
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how surprising things dont work for your non-paragon game

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AIModule didnt really improve much after paragon is dead

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fortnite using statetree

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you wont have ai in your game? Thonk

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wait

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do you have that default floor thing

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or a default cube mesh

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because they might not be working

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did you manually place it or did it come by default with a map though, this part is for some awful reason is important

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try placing a landscape?

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mieszko was mentioned landscapes were directly supported thats why I thought of it

celest musk
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but then you woke up?

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i wonder if UE6 will finally have the ability to move smart objects

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so that interactables don't have to be welded in place

deep glen
broken sigil
deep glen
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but if you want a weird MJ query: "The last Portal bird's mating call"

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last recorded mating call from the Kauai, the pauses are where its partner would sing.

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super sad

celest musk
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story of my life

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beep

broken sigil
timber viper
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totally not because of amd partnership

broken sigil
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The irony is that modders enabled dlss support so it more than likely had it on release but it was disabled

timber viper
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hence why its not because of amd partnership

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totally not related

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why would micro$oft do such thing

broken sigil
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totally not, 100% pinky promise ๐Ÿ˜…

timber viper
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like if almost you're going to strike me for no reason

celest musk
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cyberpunk 2.0 patch had a weird bug where it detected keyboard/mouse as gamepad and showed the wrong controls for some users

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someone posted a hex address and some new value for the cyberpunk exe which fixes it

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how the fuck did they figure that one out?

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and a lucky shot i guess

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yea i would have kinda rather expected a mod which fixes it, not a binary patch

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i mean, the luck is that only one "address" was affected

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and you didnt had to patch multiple places

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x64dbg shows assembler instructions or what?

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ah nvm, seems like it does

fathom wadi
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Visual Studio has billions of features but you will only use it as a notepad++ and compiler :p

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dunno about that. I only build from source once per version. The rest of the time its jsut building what I change so it's quick

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I'd hate to go back to my i7-4790k build times tho. 7 hours for a full engine build was harsh

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Mind you, building a full engine build from source is nothing compered to rendering in Blender with Cycles. I've had renders take 2 days with my current pc. One time I just outsourced it to peer2peer render farm to save time. Wish we could do that with source builds

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In fact.... the way unreal compiles into modules, that shouldn't be too difficult to make a program to do something like that. /ponders

fathom wadi
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1080ti

fathom wadi
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yeah i'm too far behind with a 1080ti for hardware RT. It's the weak point of my system because I have a 12700k cpu, 32gb of DDR5 and a gen 4 nvme. But when I build it I was waiting for the 4090 to release and by the time it did I had money issues so I didn't want to spend it on a GPU. But it still does the job except in the hardware rtx side

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when I have a render that's going to take24 hours or more though I use SheepIt renderfarm. It's usually quicker

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only problem is when I'm using custom plugins because it doesn't really work with it unless the other people have the plugin, but SheepIt downloads a separate blender version for peer rendering

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it just got worse tbh. My aunt just had a stroke and found out she has cancer. So along with the stress of moving, I'm now panicking over her dying

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life is a son of a bitch for me. I don't care for it anymore. It's just a troll

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nope

broken sigil
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dlss requires information directly from the game's rendering pipeline so the game had to have dlss already implemented for the mod to magically enable it

fathom wadi
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aside from wanting the security for my kids, I really want to get this issue resolved so I can get back to coding my game. I've not touched it in over a month. Just can't get my head into it with all the depression circling my brain. I need a fresh start

celest musk
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compared to the last 2 weeks, that's probably true ๐Ÿ˜„

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i doubt that they could have even changed the TOS

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unless in some 4th world country

bronze axle
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An absurd excuse, but it's the result of an all-too-common mindset in tech companies: engagement and growth drive all of their decisions. Not getting engagement? May as well ditch it.

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Imagine if they used this excuse to remove the privacy policy from their website.

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In fairness, removing a GitHub repository that tracks changes to their TOS is not the same as removing the TOS from their website. The latter is far more important. I still agree it is an absurd excuse.

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And is demonstrative of the corrupt thinking that led Unity to this very moment in the first place.

white oxide
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had an evil idea for a games soundbit, have a raondom one be the discord PM/mention sound so it makes people check randomly

bronze axle
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Diabolical.

white oxide
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Yes.. because why not make a game cause physiological trauma. Especially horror games

regal pecan
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You want to do that, freeze the screen and put the sound buffer on repeat.

white oxide
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Lol

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Nah im cruel, but not that cruel

regal pecan
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It'd be cruel to yourself with all the bug reports from people who reset their PC immediately.

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I wonder what the mobile equivalent would be.

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Maybe have a text message prompt appear but the framerate quickly grinds to a halt before the message becomes visible.

errant raven
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@broken sigil if C02 causes global warming, and is a greenhouse gas. Why dont we just freeze c02 (dry ice) and slap that shit into space.

tulip orbit
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the amount of CO2 generated by the rockets would probably far outweigh the amount of CO2 being shipped

unreal ether
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Well just freeze that too duh

tulip orbit
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kinda hard to freeze something when its being shot out the back of a rocket at 500+m/s at 1000+celsius

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another month or two and I will be

deep glen
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"Instant water, just add water"

chrome gull
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ahhh then ig I'm gayer than I thought I would be

fathom wadi
coral widget
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sorry to hear, are you in the US?

fathom wadi
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no england

coral widget
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Anything protecting you, law wise?

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Specially if you have kids

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In some countries there are special cases when kids are involved, regarding eviction

fathom wadi
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the only thing is the council has to put us in a hostel for upto 54 days. They can put us in the queue for a council house at the highest priority when we are evicted. Until then nothing.

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there are a lot of people in the same boat though since the interest rates went through the roof. Landlords are all selling up to avoid huge increases in monthly mortgage payments. So people, like us, are going through what is called "No-fault evictions".

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They should call it "Bank of shitty England's fault evictions"

coral widget
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I had to close my store 9 months ago because of a similar issue.

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I didn't owe anything to anyone, but they just tripled rent out of nowhere because they really wanted to sell and that was their way of getting rid of us, legally they could do this.

fathom wadi
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Meanwhile, the government spends billions of trashloot, makes sure the money goes into the pocket of their friends, reduces taxes for the rich and sends billions to the war in ukraine. As it's people starve and get made homeless.

coral widget
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karma must be real because they had the building empty for over 6 months and now its being rented by some scum, serves them right for ruining someone's dream that was almost 6 years in the going.

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@fathom wadi this happens everywhere, we are heading toward a massive event but perhaps I won't see it happen, maybe next generation or the one after.

fathom wadi
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it's like the world is doomed to repeat history. Meanwhile, those that don't ignore it are the ones that suffer the fools that do

coral widget
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Indeed but without power there's not much one can do

fathom wadi
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Hack the planet !

coral widget
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I'm the "shaded" one because I always tell everyone what's about to happen, and how it's everyone's fault... Even though I try nobody cares.

coral widget
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They are all glued to their screens while the powerful play with their future.

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This is by design.

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tiktok, etc. didn't happen by chance or luck.

fathom wadi
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yeah distraction is the best form of control. Make people's attention span so small and increment change slowly, and you bypass any defensive reactionary success.

coral widget
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It's all designed to hook mediocre people into cheap and quick dopamine rushes, creating a dependency while they waste away and the ones with this knowledge manipulate the system to their advantage, I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory but it's happening.

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This causes information sharing to shift toward this medium as well, so now people use these platforms as search engines...

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(information which is degrading rapidly due to "ai" bs as well)

fathom wadi
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throw in a little Problem, Reaction, Solution into the mix and you keep the sheeple happy

coral widget
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you know how a photocopy of a photocopy degrades?, the movie Idiocracy wasn't too far off, in fact it's dead-on.

fathom wadi
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At least people will waste away with plenty of titties on the internet. I mean, better than 1939 when you had to imagine those boobies.

coral widget
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I remember reading about this Boris fool making parties over there in the UK, the same thing was going on here... exactly the same. Except the people are still in charge, nobody resigned.

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They laugh at your very face.

fathom wadi
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That's the least of Boris Johnson's crimes

coral widget
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I'm aware of some, but corruption flies everywhere, sadly.

fathom wadi
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You know how the US has Skull and Bones? Well Boris was a leading member in the UK equivalent, the Bullingdon Boys Club.

coral widget
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And as long as the corrupt keep everyone around them happy, it will keep on going.

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They figured this out many years ago, divide and conquer by any means neccesary.

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@fathom wadi I'm not in the US actually, we were enemies at some point in time and some people still hold a grudge, I don't.

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I think it's always been politics messing with everyone's mind.

fathom wadi
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Vietnam? Korea? The rest of the world except England and Israel? ๐Ÿ˜„

coral widget
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But then again if we go back many, many years... you guys were kinda taking what wasn't yours.

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"who wasn't"

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I don't know if it was driven by religion or what.

fathom wadi
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not me. I never took a damn thing. And throughout history the last time my relatives took anything was in 1066 when we came from France to take England with William the Conqueror ๐Ÿ˜„

coral widget
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it's marked so deeply into some cultures like India and the Philippines (with the Spanish)

coral widget
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Recent conflict by history's standards.

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Doesn't matter though.

fathom wadi
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Grenada? Guam? I dunno I could list a lot without going into the middle east

coral widget
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Because they want hatred to flourish.

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The Ukraine war is another political move... I wish they would go full VR and quit wasting lives.

fathom wadi
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I like to think that Cyberpunk 2077 had the right idea of the future. We get all self-absorbed by our bodies, but undernearth it all the underground A.I. is smarter thant he military ones and takes it down and we all reset.

coral widget
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I find solace knowing in an alternative universe Putin comes out as the raging gay he is, and everyone is happy because he's also happy, win-win.

carmine frigate
coral widget
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I'll give you the year if you want.

fathom wadi
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that wasn't real. We were just split in the decision of who was going to run things. It wasn't a real war

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At least Mel Gibson won it for the US and we all had burgers and bbq sauce for tea

coral widget
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Speaking of India, they are way ahead space-wise than the UK now?

carmine frigate
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we do things in Europe space wize

fathom wadi
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the UK space program is dogshit tbh. We might throw money into the kitty with the US from time to time but we don't do anything special

carmine frigate
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its just damn expensive

coral widget
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who said NASA wasn't expensive?

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they are either stealing it or they are the most inefficient folk in town.

carmine frigate
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India is ahead of russia in space stuff tho

fathom wadi
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my son wants to works at NASA. I told him to work at SpaceX instead because they have a budget, NASA has pocket money.

coral widget
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yes, russia failed

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maybe one of the vacuum tubes died.

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haha

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"Sergey the heater broke on this one, what should we do?"

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  • We drink for fallen electric hero in space then we play roulette. spins revolver drum
carmine frigate
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James webb was cooperation with NASA ESA and canada

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thing is pretty dope

coral widget
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@fathom wadi not sure about the toxicity of that work environment though

carmine frigate
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the head of the russia moon thing got a lil sick and died after it failed

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ate bad mushrooms or something

carmine frigate
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what are the odds.. the lander bad and the mushrooms bad? ๐Ÿ™‚

carmine frigate
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duhh

fathom wadi
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Ahh an Elon hater. Good old internet twisting minds again ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine frigate
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well its his own posts on the internet

fathom wadi
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What he posts on twitter is of no concern to me. What he does to advance the human race is. And with that I stand by him

coral widget
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I'm not an Elon hater...

carmine frigate
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lol

coral widget
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Ask former workers.

fathom wadi
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I wouldn't ask anyone I didn't know. Especially anyone who was fired

coral widget
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That's a strange way of thinking.

carmine frigate
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Elon is not a gift too the human race

coral widget
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"so because they were fired they must have done something very bad"

fathom wadi
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its not strange. People attack former employers all the time, as if its not their fault they were removed from the job

coral widget
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when you point at someone there are multiple fingers pointing back at you.

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this is not always the case, people are often fired for other reasons.

carmine frigate
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or they just leave

coral widget
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and former also means you could quit.

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exactly.

fathom wadi
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quit because they are expected to do a certain level of work and can't.

coral widget
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when the level is not realistic, and you feel trapped, we'll see what you do.

fathom wadi
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I mean if a place is literally breaking your spirit because you are being attacked for whatever reason, sure. But I haven't heard anything like that from any of the businesses Elon handles.

carmine frigate
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Ive quit when i could have done the work

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sometimes its just not worth the money

coral widget
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you know, people assembling the loved iphone deal with deep depression and many have killed themselves, due to this and other reasons such as low pay, poor working conditions, etc.

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and its not a conspiracy, not made up... just the truth.

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they even put nets throughout the facilities so people wouldn't jump.

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@fathom wadi buying a big chunk of social media to pretend you'll stop it from being a censoring w**** when in reality that's what you'll use it for.

carmine frigate
fathom wadi
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I dunno. People have a choice to work. IF they leave, it's their choice too

fathom wadi
carmine frigate
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any person that says he buys dogecoin to help poor ppl cannot be trusted

coral widget
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I show you this hand while the other hand is doing who knows what, magic.

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you trust what you can see, the problem is what can't be seen.

fathom wadi
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well that's just auto-distrust and I don't buy into that. Especially when there is no other industrialist on the planet doing more for the future of humanity than Elon Musk

coral widget
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That's debatable, lithium based energy storage is not clean, sir.

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And the energy going into recharging these packs, are not often clean.

fathom wadi
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its not as simple as that. Whats the alternative? Big wind farms on your phone?

coral widget
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He shouldn't be using private jets and helicopters if he cared, right?

fathom wadi
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man Im out. this is fucking dumb liberal talk that the internet breeds.

carmine frigate
coral widget
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What?

unreal ether
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Musk is pathetic.

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Speaking of clean energy, I hope more focus goes into the hydrogen fuel cell stuff

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That's interesting and a lot cleaner than lithium ewaste

carmine frigate
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nah man, cold fusion

coral widget
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I could so drive him to the ground but I won't, I'm better than this.

unreal ether
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Just a shame there's so few places to fuel up with hydrogen

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I can only name one near me and it's like a 40 minute drive

carmine frigate
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you can basically do that anywhere ๐Ÿ˜›

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need a compressor and power

coral widget
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but you are using more energy than you get.

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that's the issue, always.

carmine frigate
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but you might aswell run a steam engine in ur car, cuz the power often comes from coal anyways ๐Ÿ˜›

coral widget
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yey, dumb liberals.

carmine frigate
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in ww2 they drove wood gas cars here sometimes

unreal ether
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Just have a nuclear reactor car and pinky swear to never crash

coral widget
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heh they wanted to do this actually

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I think there were a couple prototypes, not sure if they had a working reactor but yeah.... it was the 40s

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50*

unreal ether
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You should

unreal ether
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The stigma around nuclear power is disappointing

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It really is one of the best ways forwards

carmine frigate
carmine frigate
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what instead of putting uranium in reactors we use NFTs?

unreal ether
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And to accompany that, we start selling uranium for crypto?

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Wait...

carmine frigate
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and we use the power from the reactor to mint NFTs!

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now we have a closed loop system

flat jolt
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flat jolt
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  • In addition, I wanted to avoid spamming and therefore it is necessary to have it as verification.
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You can enter anything random if you want...

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Shows nothing?

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wdym by that nothing?

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Weird

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It is working for me

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Thats okay ๐Ÿ˜‰

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I mean...thank you for your info about that, but for me it is working

flat jolt
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Nice, I happy for that ๐Ÿ˜‰ good to know

unreal ether
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It is slightly concerning when a game doesn't know what mode fits it, and lists virtually every mode ever to exist

broken sigil
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ok this is actually really useful in the new windows update

soft night
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soon blue man implement deja new features the image generation what implement text for reply

woven wing
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I really thought tabbed folders would be really useful

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But then I realized that 99% of the time that I'm actually opening a folder, it's to move soemthing from one folder to another and I end up opening two windows anyways

broken sigil
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holy crap this actually works lol

woven wing
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MS buys Unity, integrates it with W12, "Make games with AI!" Upload them directly to gamepass

soft night
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ms buys epic then make MSNITe they new game

woven wing
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And in true Microsoft fashion, Godot becomes a better engine than Unity

coral widget
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ms buys both, turns them into activex component.

woven wing
coral widget
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LOL

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you know it hurts because its true.

soft night
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Ms buys gobot and rename it to GoPilot

coral widget
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a product that will ship as part of office 360, inside powerpoint.

timber viper
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.

woven wing
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When does the gamejam results come out?

broken sigil
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lol this is a pretty cool effect
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fleet tangle
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That's pretty cool

broken sigil
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LOL

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@sand oxide I love how it got some things correct but hallucinated everything else lol

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The background of the chat conversation is white.
lmao

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yes... white...

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๐Ÿ˜†

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lol

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got what I asked for lmao

zinc matrix
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hello everyone reading this.
i hope you a productive day and put a lot of code on the table

outer sierra
fleet tangle
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And still haven't. Cough (sorry, joking)

broken sigil
fleet tangle
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Look pretty neat.

outer sierra
broken sigil
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Preview

outer sierra
broken sigil
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Or whatever it's called

outer sierra
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my PC is potato, can't run Win11

fleet tangle
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Probably one of the reasons I don't use reddit.

outer sierra
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not using reddit is cool now?

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at home

fleet tangle
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It is, at least, recognisable, if not... good.

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The proportions are all out of whack!

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It's really not that hard.

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What's hard is translating what you want to actually do onto paper.

broken sigil
fleet tangle
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Idk.

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I picked it up pretty fast. I had a good teacher, I guess.

zinc matrix
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that sound mathy

fleet tangle
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It's not really mathy, it's just visualisation.

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You can use math to work it out, sure, but that's not how humans do things.

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It always surprises me that some people are unable to visualise in their head.

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Thinks he has an echo

zinc matrix
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oh oh is it like understand connection between c++ classes

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that im good

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how old are you

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noted

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but you said like you are 50

carmine frigate
zinc matrix
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the thing that you just said.. it sound like you are old

carmine frigate
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she is solving a math problem ๐Ÿ˜›

zinc matrix
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that guy is doing full math drawing
i just mean the ability to remember ratio between body part which human sucked at

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our brain is just not designed to deal with numbers

carmine frigate
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well i made my own profile pic, so im really good

zinc matrix
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but if you understand perspective and 3d enough you can calculate anything

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angles?

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i mean i guess each people look at things differently though

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i just apply math to everything i do

timber viper
zinc matrix
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well you can say it's not good because human brain can't deal with more complex equations

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but something like AIs could really pull math drawing out

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or some very smart people

carmine frigate
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could just give him some art tips so he gets into art school

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well he didnt...

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some1 else would have gone full war... it cant be helped

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timber viper
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RA3 timeline is where hitler is defeated and US nuked Russia

zinc matrix
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we should have a music channel
i feel like all unreal devs always have some similar mood at all time

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gray mood

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or maybe its just me

broken sigil
zinc matrix
zinc matrix
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yeah i should do that after i feel a bit brighter

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fk today

timber viper
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you're stronger on left side

zinc matrix
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nah

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i feel like inside he is on the right side

broken sigil
# timber viper lol

My playlist is everything from rock, metal, heavy metal to pop, electronic, etc... lol

fathom wadi
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fuck off

deep glen
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^

zinc matrix
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yo i wrote some maze algorithm and they are bitches

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i mean hard

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very hard

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the hard thing about them too is when you are done you cant stop staring at them

zinc matrix
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aw so you dont do procgen

timber viper
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I wonder how RA3 achieved this graphics at 2008

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Not on crysis level but holy fuck this thing looks like almost modern at 2023

unreal ether
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my favourite command and conquer by far

timber viper
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Its AI is still unmatched

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Brutal AI can beat almost any regular human

timber viper
unreal ether
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Generals was indeed good

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the mods for generals were good too

timber viper
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I have a illegal copy of generals 2

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Beta exe

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Actually no, not anymore

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I had*

empty dune
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man, i love cnc (thats command and conquer, im not a degen)

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favourite was probably tiberium twilight

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red alert 2 was fun too

timber viper
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Whats degen version of cnc? I hope I wont regret asking

zinc wagon
empty dune
timber viper
empty dune
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i actually liked the tiberium wars

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the concept of those crawlers was cool

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i hope they remaster the tiberium series someday

timber viper
zinc wagon
# timber viper Really?

gta 4 and 5 are a great example (on xbox 360). same engine, some reused models but gta5 decided to be more colourful instead of restricting itself to the brown colour pallet which made it actually look good

timber viper
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They should have added a lot meanwhile

empty dune
#

damn i forgot this guy was in the cnc series

timber viper
#

i didnt play cnc series

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only generals 1

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and ra2 and ra3

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thats all

zinc wagon
timber viper
empty dune
timber viper
#

oh sorry meant to say didnt play generals series

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and only generals 1

empty dune
timber viper
#

isnt tiberium

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part of generals series?

empty dune
#

is it?

timber viper
#

i'm 49% sure

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gameplay is radically different so might not be

empty dune
#

nope

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just googled

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its not

timber viper
#

alright then

empty dune
#

all 3 are separate universe

timber viper
#

final edit: didnt play tiberium at all

empty dune
#

that game was SICK

timber viper
#

its gameplay relies on resource collecting more

#

which makes me discouraged

empty dune
#

ah yeah thats true

#

its more akin to starcraft in that regard

timber viper
#

i guess they focus on space imperialism or something like that

empty dune
#

space what now

timber viper
#

space wars but everyone is trying to be victorian era UK

empty dune
#

wha, no thats not how i remember it

empty dune
#

the tiberium saga was mostly 80s spy thriller stuff

timber viper
#

since i didnt play, i dont know

timber viper
empty dune
#

yeah it has lots of subterfuge and backroom politics happening ||you are the scapegoat in the end||

zinc wagon
empty dune
#

eyyy, that looks pretty

timber viper
empty dune
#

you forgot the "with a massive free trial" or something to that effect

timber viper
#

is this another case where art direction > graphics then

#

counter question

#

do you see anything beyond 2008 on the ra3 images i posted?

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or does it look like "yeah thats just regular 2008 graphics"

zinc wagon
timber viper
#

all old games I remember from <2010 looks like HL2

bronze axle
#

Thank you. Please be more careful in the future about insulting others.

empty dune
timber viper
#

interesting

broken sigil
#

holy crap titanfall 2 is fun, how did I never play it before cry

zinc wagon
zinc wagon
empty dune
zinc wagon
#

it was pretty much the game that inspired me to pursue game dev lol

timber viper
#

then on technical level what made Crysis revolutionary? did they use better algorithms, some next-gen lighting stuff etc?

#

that it looked awesome at 2008

empty dune
#

funny thing is since im a full paragon, ive never punched that reporter

timber viper
zinc wagon
timber viper
#

so meanwhile gamers are hyping, graphics developers were finding it usual and something only runs on expensive devices?

empty dune
#

femshep FTW

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exactly!

#

she's the best thing that happened to voice acting, EVER

#

i honestly love the emotion she puts into femshep

#

gw2?

timber viper
#

nier automata 2b's voice acting is also amazing

#

both JP and EN

#

though its rare cases where EN is better than JP

#

I was surprised

empty dune
#

no i mean i dont recognise the abbreviation

#

oh yeah i love nier automata too

#

ahhhhh

#

that game

#

nice

timber viper
#

anime dubs are probably bad because crunchyoll/retailer does this via contracts and usually one VA company dominates the industry

empty dune
#

wasnt she in some other game too recently?

timber viper
#

meanwhile game companies value more meritotracy

empty dune
#

like a couple years ago

#

i cant remember what though

#

BAYONETTA

#

goddamn that took me wayy too long to remember

#

right

#

i mean tbf i said recently

timber viper
empty dune
#

||she's even more pissed at the thought of cloneshep killing her fish||

#

dammit now i want to play mass effect again

#

oh btw @sand oxide my profile pic is from the leaving earth scene, just before the shot of the ||alliance fleet wreckage in orbit of earth||

#

i just picked ||destroy||. thats the only real ending

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lmao

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||marauder shields died for our sins||

#

no

#

i actually didnt get that scene because ||that krogan lady in me3 died||

#

listen i didnt know that genetic data was so important lmao

graceful sequoia
#

@sand oxide finally getting 5.3 set up as it turns out apparently oceanology requires no changes for it anyway (they are taking their sweet time on releasing updates for it)

#

maybe soon ill be able to confirm WP is unfucked

empty dune
#

i dont like oceanology's shady marketing

#

the stuff is good

graceful sequoia
#

i dont like a lot about them

empty dune
#

the marketing is bad

graceful sequoia
#

the plugin itself works well, but they have ticked me off in many ways

#

for instance, in 5.1.6 they straight up removed the coast masking feature

#

kind of important if you have a continent that has elevations below sea level

empty dune
graceful sequoia
#

they were just like "we'll add it back in the next version", no explanation, no warning

#

and fwiw they removed that feature in july

#

still no release adding it back

timber viper
#

its amazing that game runs on 3gb ram

graceful sequoia
#

whats left on materials that nanite doesnt support at this point btw?

timber viper
#

how did you write this sentence in lesser time than 1s

#

my one word equals to your 4/5

#

you're an alien

#

did you ever participate in fast typing competitions

#

pretty sure you'd beat tons of people

#

meanwhile types all day to newbies at cpp

graceful sequoia
#

points for adding the skeletal though

timber viper
#

Laura is typing... literally appeared for 1s

graceful sequoia
#

i just meant enough to win

timber viper
#

0.1ms or server latency

graceful sequoia
#

i feel like depends on keyboard

timber viper
#

but laura also reads fast

#

bonus point for that

#

she starts finishing her answer while I'm reading my own text after sending it

graceful sequoia
#

serves em right for being on the phone

timber viper
#

how dare they use phone at.. 2023

graceful sequoia
#

you got dis 5.3

empty dune
#

5.3 is calibrating

timber viper
timber viper
#

recently the principal dev who is developing WP followed me at twitter

#

I felt so cool

graceful sequoia
#

nice

#

they are cool now that its apparently fixed

#

compiling shaders, time for coffee

#

what else is going on

timber viper
#

ew

graceful sequoia
#

accurate

timber viper
#

๐Ÿณ๏ธ

empty dune
#

@sand oxide you did this. i hate you

timber viper
#

good thing they dont use unity

#

and its not 2024

#

oh no they use kismet right

#

xD

graceful sequoia
#

@sand oxide how about ai pathing

timber viper
#

algorithm is OK

#

API bad

graceful sequoia
#

it barely works for more than like 2 or 3 characters

zinc wagon
#

wait so do you just have a completely custom AI system for your game? or did you give up on AI in general?

median wraith
#

What's the todays talk about?

graceful sequoia
#

you have a choice of an unrealistic avoidance strat or one that doesn't work at all

timber viper
graceful sequoia
timber viper
#

and Laura being alien for typing fast

graceful sequoia
#

how are you doing avoidance Eren?

timber viper
#

RVO with tweaks

#

but plan to use ORCA soon

#

soon = 2024

broken sigil
graceful sequoia
#

rvo with humanoids looks bizarre

#

they slide in weird ways

median wraith
timber viper
#

orca > anything

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except properly written detour

graceful sequoia
#

I've not heard of nrvo or orca

timber viper
#

orca is rvo

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ughh dont make word tricks CB_angery_cry

graceful sequoia
timber viper
#

i wish I had fast typing skills as laura, could bully people on other servers faster

#

god knew I would be too powerful

empty dune
#

luara

timber viper
timber viper
empty dune
timber viper
graceful sequoia
timber viper
graceful sequoia
#

oh goddammit laura

empty dune
timber viper
#

luara is her evil twin

graceful sequoia
#

@timber viper do you have humanoids with that rvo?

timber viper
#

one brings half jets through cpp jobs other via lua jobs then they achieve complete F-35

graceful sequoia
#

bipedal creatures

graceful sequoia
# timber viper Yes

how do you handle the side slide weirdness-- a trick in your anim controllers?

timber viper
#

my game is a twin stick horde zombie shooter

#

it wont work for a proper TPS/FPS

graceful sequoia
#

ah

timber viper
#

because it only aims to "make way" to NPCs

#

RVO is pathetic

graceful sequoia
#

yeah fair

timber viper
#

ORCA and detour is better

#

but UE doesnt utilize detour properly

#

why would it when paragon doesnt need it

graceful sequoia
#

detour has mostly been broken for me

timber viper
#

its not, disable rvo first

graceful sequoia
#

I did

#

im sure it can be made to not suck

#

I just haven't had that success yet

timber viper
#

kythera had ORCA

#

and it was beyond amazing

#

and it was per unit via data assets

#

not AIController bullshit

#

it is

#

also terribly interop

#

to UE

#

it works well on cryengine though

#

I had a client who was really going to pay, but they didnt know this and assumed he's broke

#

idiots didnt answer to our emails

#

and lost a chance to earn a few tens thousand $$

graceful sequoia
#

if one were really motivated, could it just be implemented directly from the paper? or is there some kind of patented crap that would preclude that? https://gamma.cs.unc.edu/ORCA/

#

or is this not the orca I'm looking for

timber viper
#

and told us know at cpp

#

search the link on message history

graceful sequoia
#

Eren: s/know/no ?

timber viper
#

what does that mean

graceful sequoia
#

did you mean "told us no"

graceful sequoia
timber viper
#

someone took that paper and implemented to UE

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and told us they succeeded

graceful sequoia
#

oh ok

timber viper
#

in 4 days

graceful sequoia
#

soooo probably a month or two for my dumb ass

timber viper
#

would be even more for me

graceful sequoia
#

or we pay Laura to do it and it's done in a day

timber viper
#

she already did

#

now pay up

#

"It's worth noting, however, that no matter how many orks are barreling your way (and often there will be a lot) the framerate never takes a hit."

#

because probably you didnt run it on a single gamethread

median wraith
#

Uno or Unc ๐Ÿ‘€

graceful sequoia
#

ok so yes my characters still fall out of the world on load, but i think thats more about the character logic than WP

#

because there are some physics objects that are not falling out of the world anymore

#

it seems load times are definitely optimized, as i have a debug command to make the PC run at a ridiculous pace and a lot more of far areas gets loaded before i get there-- though there are some assets that appear to be loading in super slowly. Interesting that it is specific ones

#

maybe they are in the wrong grids though

#

Yep thats why. They are on grid None ๐Ÿ˜›

#

relatively new additions to the map

#

let me try my axes of evil test map

#

i havent gone back to this since laura mentioned that it was because the quadtree doubled the distance when it overlapped multiple cells

proud jay
#

this is horrible

#

why is everything of the "any" type

#

for some reason I'm writing JavaScript

#

thanks for ruining my message order discord

graceful sequoia
#

if you are in typescript it sounds like you dont have strict mode turned on

#

in javascript thats just how it works

#

oh, if you are in TS and even stuff that has type annotations is showing up as any, then probably your imports are squiggled at the top

proud jay
#

it is JS

#

that's why I said I'm writing JavaScript

graceful sequoia
#

well thats how JS works dieter

#

what do you want me to tell you lol

proud jay
#

nothing

#

just saying it's a garbage language

graceful sequoia
#

@sand oxide sooo when i select something during simulation and WP unloads it, the inspector gets cleared. I can use this fact to see if actors on the axes ever unload even if i go really really far away

#

it appears they do not

#

so its not the quadtree cell overlap thing

#

wtf you said it was fixed ๐Ÿคฃ

#

maybe it was that other guy though

#

but he was, well

#

you know

#

lets just say "it was the general channel"

#

oh that would be helpful at least

#

as long as I can leave a 50m area of nothing around the grid axes lol

#

sigh, I guess as long as I cap render distance on everything then it's only game thread affecting actors that I need to worry about, and the character logic already has freeze rules for distance

#

when 5.3 came out I was surprised to hear the axes thing would be fixed because epic marked it won't fix

#

tbf if I can get hlods up and running this should be a nonissue

woven wing
graceful sequoia
#

the quadtree that WP uses has a limitation around the zero axes of a runtime grid

#

actors around this area remain loaded at all times

#
#

they have been aware of it, and apparently have tried to fix it, but could not and so without HLODs in place you can have a big perf impact if there are a lot of actors in these areas of your map

#

in my measurements it can be about 50m around the axes, but really that should depend on the extents of the actors involved

woven wing
#

I've been using WP, and having haven't noticed this. That's very weird.

graceful sequoia
#

as it says in the thread, with HLODs enabled and built, it isnt really an issue

#

if you dont have HLODs then... maybe you dont have stuff around those axes? you can use Simulate to test this stuff out pretty easily on a map

#

WP will center loading around your simulation camera by default

woven wing
graceful sequoia
#

problem for me is i was unable to get WP HLODs working until 5.2

#

and my map is huge

woven wing
#

This basically what it is?

graceful sequoia
#

so i have a lot of layer configuration and build time to do

graceful sequoia
woven wing
#

Oh, after playing with it a bit more, it is very odd

graceful sequoia
#

thats 2 crashes in 5.3 so far and i dont think its my fault this time

zinc matrix
#

it's 4am here almost breakfast time im so happy

errant raven
# graceful sequoia

My brain, all nice and rippled but flat on the spot I need it to be rippled

deep glen
#

@broken sigil

broken sigil
deep glen
#

lol

#

i'll be off in about 7 minutes, else I'll reply tomorrow. hehe.

broken sigil
broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

that's much higher than mine

#

im so struggle with flicking around

#

that look fun though

#

it's nice enjoying video games

broken sigil
#

I don't know how I have never played titanfall before

broken sigil
# zinc matrix that's much higher than mine

yeah this is about perfect for me, any higher and I'm overshooting, anything lower and I can't flick far enough
I'm also using ceramic mouse skates and hard mouse pad so it feels quite a bit faster than it would on a cloth pad

#

which I like

zinc matrix
#

you tried aim lab though?

#

how tf you can aim with that fast dpi

broken sigil
#

๐Ÿ˜…

broken sigil
carmine frigate
#

dpi doesnt say much by itself

broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

that thing is crazy slip

broken sigil
carmine frigate
#

you have dpi, mouse speed and monitor resolution

unreal ether
broken sigil
carmine frigate
#

if you go from 1080 to 4k you need to up ur dpi or mouse sense

zinc matrix
#

ill been doing aim lab for a while and i dont know how to get 100k

#

saw some pro player got 130k

#

those guys are monster

broken sigil
#

ah I have Kovaak's, not aim labs
Just checked, couldn't remember

zinc matrix
carmine frigate
broken sigil
broken sigil
carmine frigate
#

you move the cursor pixels per tick

broken sigil
#

yeah it is about 30ish cm

timber viper
broken sigil
timber viper
#

I'll still play bad

#

Sorry

broken sigil
# timber viper I'll still play bad

Dw I used to play a with a friend that I had to carry every single time and I didn't really care ๐Ÿ˜…
I don't really care about winning

carmine frigate
timber viper
#

A bit good with souls likes

#

And generally play well on RTS games

broken sigil
zinc matrix
timber viper
#

Normally if this was rs6 or csgo I could play at least "good" but tf2 is on another level

#

Everyone is everywhere

zinc matrix
#

im almost immortal in dota but nova csgo

timber viper
#

I dont count mobas as RTSs

#

I suck at dota

#

I play RA3, civ6, cc generals etc good

fathom wadi
#

Titanfall 2 has one of the best single player campaigns I've ever played

zinc matrix
#

hmm that's questionable if ur good at rts but suck at dota 2

timber viper
carmine frigate
#

had a friend that was like top10 red alert 3 in ranking ... got invited to test the latest game or something... but was in US and he had to pay everything himself

#

pretty lame for such a big name game

broken sigil
# zinc matrix im almost immortal in dota but nova csgo

I'm the opposite lol
I can't play dota, league, etc... but I do very well in shooters

In fortnite me and a friend were super close to qualifying for the world cup when that was around lol
When I was playing fortnite I was actually like 2nd player with the highest number of kills for a while, first was HighDistortion (streamer) ๐Ÿ˜…
and yes I was addicted...

carmine frigate
#

years ago

zinc matrix
#

second must be rts and dota 2

timber viper
#

You had me excited for a sec

#

Ra4 would be good

broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

now that i am trying to dev in unreal engine i cant even play dota 2 anymore
only league of legend or some card game

#

card game is so fast and healthy

#

but also expensive XD

broken sigil
#

Today was the most I played a game in one sitting in ages, played TF2 for like 4 hours
That's how much I do in a week these days lol

#

but damn tf2 is fun

timber viper
#

Tf2 was nice

broken sigil
#

need to play the story mode

timber viper
#

You'll get addicted

broken sigil
carmine frigate
#

i was sick good in tribes 2, I got invited in one of the top clans in tribes ascend after 2 weeks of playing but the game was dead pretty fast

#

really couldnt bother joining the clan

#

had like 120kill per death ratio on that shit on average

zinc matrix
#

oh i just remember the worst game to be addicted to
it was rust and dayz

#

holy i spend like 12 hours a day farming

timber viper
#

I dont remember being addicted to a game

#

But csgo and lol was around 500 hours

#

And I had a rs6 phase once

#

Then Pubg when it was really popular but dropped easily

carmine frigate
#

im like above average on shooters... but when planes are involved i get superpowers

timber viper
#

Bf42 sucks at planes

#

How do u even play that

#

Bruh

#

Dont waste ur life

#

Be productive

zinc matrix
#

yeah i deleted dota 2

#

fk that game

timber viper
#

It says "resume" lookingoodson

carmine frigate
#

download paused

#

i have auto pause on epic launvher due to low disk space

zinc matrix
#

play dota 2 like having sex, you cant really delete it

broken sigil
carmine frigate
#

i played like 2 games on dota, didnt like it much... i played some LOL tho

carmine frigate
broken sigil
#

Fortnite was something like 4k

carmine frigate
zinc matrix
carmine frigate
#

also 500m mortar hits

#

i had a pilot build and a heavy build on tribes

#

i was near immortal

broken sigil
#

The trick where you shoot behind youself to get that massive boost lol

carmine frigate
#

I would just max speed fly into any player and they would die

#

repair my own plane cuz they cost credits

#

true flag grabbers were near impossible to kill with a plane tho

#

basically nothing could hit a player goin 2000km/h

broken sigil
#

I also loved Hawken, kinda reminds me of titanfall, I played that a lot as well

But servers have been shut down ages ago
Hawken reborn or whatever it's called is not it, the original one was really good

timber viper
broken sigil
carmine frigate
#

its a fun game

#

when they added planes i was sick good in an instant :p

broken sigil
# timber viper why

I was invited to play fortnite BR before it was even fully publicly released
Was like 2k players on the servers lol

Played it for years after that until they kinda ruined the competitive aspect of it

carmine frigate
#

bet i can beat blue in a match with planes ๐Ÿ˜›

broken sigil
timber viper
#

uefn is there

#

fight

broken sigil
#

The OG fortnite felt very special

timber viper
#

hire laura to write verse

broken sigil
#

when it came out

carmine frigate
#

ow its still kinda special

broken sigil
#

It's very different, I much prefered early days of FN BR

carmine frigate
#

ppl got sick fast with the builds tho

#

they seperated competative and normal mode in a weird way tho

timber viper
#

how do you people be productive while playing games

broken sigil
carmine frigate
#

like pro players/streamers dont wunna get replaced and hate on anything that can beat build meta

#

so competative and normal play is actually not the same items you play with and that is weird

broken sigil
#

that sounds... confusing

carmine frigate
#

yea, i like ranked games.. they dont have bots... but on later versions only non ranked had planes... and i love my planes

#

I just wanted to play ranked with my planes but i could not ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

so if you play non ranked to test a new strat you play a diffrent game than you play on ranked

broken sigil
#

that's so weird

carmine frigate
#

yea

broken sigil
#

yeah from what I've seen the standard mode is super casual now

carmine frigate
#

its still a good shooter

broken sigil
#

Might give it a try again

woven wing
#

Any "20 game challenge"ers here?

#

Needing something more lightweight and bitesized for a bit to help get over some mental blocks

broken sigil
#

S1-5 was great

#

yeah it is

woven wing
#

These are always my most productive days

timber viper
#

I'm not suffering from adhd so I wouldnt know though

woven wing
#

I love that my uni never closed my account

#

Oh, I'd never say a word

#

I dropped out because I didn't want to sit through 2 years of classes just to get to something I hadn't learned on my own already

#

CS

#

It was like 8 hours of classes a day, with like 1-2 hours of actual CS work for like 2 years

#

That's a lot of wasted time if you can just learn it yourself

#

Who cares about a paper

#

I got my first 'gamedev' job from a Craigslist ad after spending like a month learning Unity

#

It was very interesting

#

Granted, it was just making slot machines

zinc matrix
#

what is this? I made an account in deviant art to publish AI generated landscapes. All images of landscapes and beautiful nature, roads. Nothing related to concept art. Then this PM comes.

woven wing
#

Oh yeah, with the help of ChatGPT, my resume looks like I invented the concept of gambling

zinc matrix
#

must be a scam and a virus. I didn't open the exe. But there were screenshots with props included

woven wing
#

My plan is working!

woven wing
#

My fingers simply can't swap between UE and Blender

woven wing
# woven wing

I keep sending him videos of like cool Houdini destruction stuff and being like "wow! That's so cool! I sure bet the people who make this kinda stuff are just the coolest people!"

zinc matrix
#

Devian Art lacks a report button

broken sigil
#

it's the "artificial" bullet spread, early FN BR was notorious for it

#

yeah I really liked that ๐Ÿ˜…

#

Streamer bloom refers to getting "lucky" and having basically no bullet spread
Same as "streamer loot"

#

I didn't either and no one once asked me for a degree for a programming related job

woven wing
#

My plan is just portfolio, gamejams, and 1 single fully complete commercial product

zinc matrix
#

art station seems to be a bad place to post AI generated landscapes

dusky bobcat
timber viper
#

epic should block it

dusky bobcat
#

But Tim is quite free for AI stuff as he mentioned.

#

Again, I don't like it to be in the commercial production including games, arts, music and etc.

broken sigil
#

I can almost bet that pretty much any decently large studio is right now looking into or working on their own AI models

#

It would be crazy not to considering we are still pretty much in the infancy of AI

zinc matrix
#

imagine if NPCs in games are powered by ChatGPT?

woven wing
#

Eventually it'll be seen as no different as any other digital art

#

I remember there being backlash about "digital art is not real art" stuff when photoshop was starting to become a thing

#

I always wondered what the Millennial version of boomers being like "Kids these days with their smart phones. Back in my day..." and after the whole "kwebbelkop ai" thing, I'm 100% sure it's going to be AI

#

"All this AI created content! Back in my day we watched real content creators!"

broken sigil
timber viper
#

until AGI comes anything custom will be better

#

and once people will be able to customize freely as if they're writing python scripts gpt will die

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based on openai ceo this is 5 years later

dusky bobcat
woven wing
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Texturing AI is my biggest want

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"here's a brick texture, he's some textures that I'm using, make the brick texture match the style of the rest of the assets"

broken sigil
woven wing
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lol

broken sigil
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sus
Mine was the average after 5 attempts

woven wing
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same

broken sigil
woven wing
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This is what it looks like before 5

broken sigil
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this is my best "single" attempt so far

woven wing
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Just clicking until I got lucky xD

broken sigil
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๐Ÿ˜

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Mine are actually legit, I have video proof sus

woven wing
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Guiness World Records is standing in my room

woven wing
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He has clipboard and is quietly writing while going "hmmm... mhmh" and everything

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I'm just going solo right now

broken sigil
woven wing
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I'm too busy learning to make a dream game

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Probably going to go through the 20 game challenge over the next couple of weeks. Or Looman's course first, then the 20

broken sigil
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I think I got addicted...

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to Titanfall 2 cry

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It's 5 am and I wanna play it

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f

celest musk
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they are all frogs

broken sigil
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I think AI revolution needs to come sooner so we can all just have AI partners

celest musk
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you prefer that people stay without partner at all?

broken sigil
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honestly doesn't sound too bad in my case ๐Ÿ˜†

woven wing
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I use AI to tell me my code is bad and suggest worse code. So basically no different than a person at this point

broken sigil
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If they only licensed my long term memory system I made for LLMs smugibble

celest musk
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deserve is quite the phrasing...

broken sigil
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ok I hate that emoji

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oh it's so bad

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This emoji smugibble

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?

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Yes it's smugibble
I hate it

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๐Ÿ˜…

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ngl it kinda is starting to grow on me the more I use it

celest musk
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you could use it as profile pic to get used to it

broken sigil
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Wait... which one ๐Ÿ‘€

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this

celest musk
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here, use it

woven wing
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I will live through lonely people making parasocial relationships with AI provided by some company free of charge, only for that company to turn around and start massively charging people for the same service or else they'll lose their AI friend

timber viper
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I'm not

celest musk
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love how one convo here is about relationships and the other one about an emoji

timber viper
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one hour? Hehe

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wow another rare anime reference from laura ChillBar_yay

broken sigil
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I mentioned I blacked out like gonna be 2 years soon and I developed pretty debilitating heart anxiety, borderline PTSD, to the point where doing absolutely anything alone is a challenge
So yeah I think at this point AI doesn't sound too bad

Someone who hasn't been in the same situation won't understand

celest musk
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someone who would understand that might drag you down more

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i feel like it's better to have someone who is able to distract you good enough

timber viper
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i added this to my never ending long long list

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at this point I'll die before watching all animes but this fact makes me happy

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i forgot you were a bookworm

broken sigil
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First year I couldn't go up stairs, take a shower, do absolutely anything without thinking I'm about to die any moment
Went to the ER about 10 times within few months because I thought I was having a heart attack while it was just a panic attack, which I never had before

As of this year I am better, can actually function relatively normally but I still can't really go anywhere alone, can barely get myself to drive which I enjoyed before
And it's not as simple as "oh just don't think about it", the anxiety is so bad that it actually causes skipped heart beats and arrythmias
Only those who have experienced it will know how bad it actually is

timber viper
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I was always in more control

tulip orbit
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celest musk
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xD

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lmao

celest musk
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this guy... just slamming this image in here

timber viper
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small surprises for BM

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small innocent surprises

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that he'll remember during panic attacks

broken sigil
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it is funny lol

tulip orbit
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I love it when I have a meme that relates to the convo, I have nothing else to add really ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

celest musk
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yea because a panic attack is kind of the opposite

tulip orbit
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I have anxiety, and possibly had a panic attack/dehydration where I was losing vision, but probably not to the extent BM says

timber viper
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panic attack is 100% something an individual can defeat though, unlike other severe mental issues

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I'm living example of this

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its genetic from my parents

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we all managed it

celest musk
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idk if you can defeat it

timber viper
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you can

celest musk
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you can get used to it and get some "fuck it" mentallity about it

timber viper
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nope

celest musk
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not sure if thats healthy tho

broken sigil
celest musk
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because thats how i deal with them often...

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one day i might have a stroke and think "fuck it, just another panic attack"

timber viper
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just like any other mental disorder, even schizophrenia it can be defeated with proper usage of medicines to get over the rough experiences and therapy (ACT or CBT) to completely remove it from your life

tulip orbit
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for some its easier to get over anxiety/etc issues, but for others where its more serious, it can be really really difficult to overcome

timber viper
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and she is doing wrong

broken sigil
timber viper
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she's taking the easy route

timber viper
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gotta accept you're living it and make peace with it as first steps

broken sigil
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at least can stop it now before it gets to the "ER visit" level of bad

timber viper
celest musk
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isnt that pretty much the same as just getting the whatever attitude towards it?

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i'm just worried that one day my mind wont be quick enough to come up with the "whatever" and that the panic attack takes over -_-

timber viper
celest musk
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that's what i meant by "fuck it" mentallity before

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being aware of what happens, and that it will end

timber viper
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yep then you're doing great congrats ๐Ÿฅณ

celest musk
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if it really does or you are falling for the devil is another question... xD

broken sigil
# tulip orbit for some its easier to get over anxiety/etc issues, but for others where its mor...

for me it's because I didn't just fall and black out
I was like 2 minutes without vision or hearing but still conscious before I finally woke up on the floor, if it didn't take that long maybe it wouldn't have done as much damage to my mental state as it did

It also didn't help that at ER they raised so much panic (they thought I was having a heart attack or something) just to at the end tell me that everything is actually fine and the whole thing was harmless
My anxiety showed up after that ER visit, after they raised so much panic

celest musk
timber viper
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worked for me, cant recommend enough

celest musk
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yea they havent been exactly helpful

timber viper
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i've seen 6 therapist, one of them asked me "how can I help you" after 5th session, and I was like "wtf, you should tell me that"

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other one tried to make me believe I am just doing fine

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you gotta find the best one for you

celest musk
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well they gave me meds which solved some issues for a while, then they told me that i take the meds too often, and i reduced and noticed how they turn me into "someone else"

broken sigil