I enjoyed the base building more than the combat and storyline, so I didn't play it all that much.
#lounge
fleet tangle
chrome gull
hell I even bought a new PC just to play Starfield (and also game dev but ehh)
chrome gull
I enjoyed the base building more than the combat and storyline, so I didn't play...
where'd you play? PC?
fleet tangle
Yeah.
chrome gull
I mod the everliving shit out of the game
tulip orbit
wish starfield came out a week before my long weekend, instead of the week after 😦
warm bloom
hell I even bought a new PC just to play Starfield (and also game dev but ehh)
hope you have pixars render farm ready to play the game
fleet tangle
I really just don't like the fallout series in general. Wasteland is a far better futuristic dystopia series.
warm bloom
I'm looking hella forward to payday 3 though
chrome gull
top-notch gunplay, incredible combat (and idc about the story)
warm bloom
I really just don't like the fallout series in general. Wasteland is a far bette...
I liked the earlier games more
tulip orbit
also hoping starfield will run on my gtx2060 😬
chrome gull
hope you have pixars render farm ready to play the game
my dad is pixar so I have that covered
warm bloom
fallout 76 was pretty fun
fallout 4 was fine
idk not my favorite series
and it is still Bethesda
chrome gull
also hoping starfield will run on my gtx2060 😬
my new PC didn't arrive yet so I'll be playing it tomorrow on an RX 580 lol
proud jay
main OST was banger, other than that, mid game
warm bloom
the B in Bethesda stands for Broken
chrome gull
fallout 76 was pretty fun
surprisingly
warm bloom
I should make a children's book
chrome gull
fallout 4 was fine
😡
chrome gull
main OST was banger, other than that, mid game
what'd you not like?
tulip orbit
my new PC didn't arrive yet so I'll be playing it tomorrow on an RX 580 lol
let us know if it runs 🙂
chrome gull
let us know if it runs 🙂
deffo will
warm bloom
Fr let me know if starfield runs
actually curious
since they used and open source graphics api
tulip orbit
doesnt come out till the 6th tho right?
warm bloom
I believe that whole engine is new
chrome gull
doesnt come out till the 6th tho right?
early access lol
tulip orbit
Unity?
warm bloom
yeah I think they're using vulkan
proud jay
it was in development before msft bought them though
and the engine already existed I guess
chrome gull
surely their biggest game will use their own RHI, right?
warm bloom
oh yeah they're using the forge
holy they improved forge a fuck ton since I last saw it
even made it into a company
tulip orbit
the first developed to run on Creation Engine 2.
proud jay
they support both dx11 and vulkan from what I can find
chrome gull
I'm talking about the RHI lol
chrome gull
Beth does have their own engine
proud jay
it's not like vulkan is this obscure api that is used by 3 people world wide though
proud jay
well it's not as common as dx, but it's out there in the wild for a few well known games
bg3 supports vulkan
not that I use it
warm bloom
well I was looking for wrappers around graphics api's and I saw it a while back
but at the time it was super simple
chrome gull
what are wrappers ;-;
warm bloom
basically a wrapper is makeup for things
novel storm
Any tips for managing / preventing neck pain? My monitors are arm's length from me, and just below "straight ahead" when sitting at my desk.
chrome gull
I see, noice
fathom wadi
I thought CP2077 was pretty immersive tbh. I felt right in character throughout the entire thing and the open world experience felt decent. Just my two cents tho.
chrome gull
Any tips for managing / preventing neck pain? My monitors are arm's length from...
...use a neck brace?
broken sigil
I love cyberpunk, thought it was a solid 9/10
Funnily enough on my first playthrough on launch I had absolutely no issues, I can't remember any bugs either
So after playing it, seeing all the criticism online was very surprising
proud jay
a split keyboard can help with shoulder/neck pain as well if you wanna yolo in
fathom wadi
same. I completed it twice and had 2 bugs the entire time
novel storm
That is ironic but I believe it
proud jay
not sitting in the same position for 5 hours on end also helps
novel storm
a split keyboard can help with shoulder/neck pain as well if you wanna yolo in
Already rocking a Moonlander 😎
proud jay
I see you have too much money
chrome gull
I played 2077 on its first sale lol, saw one bug and after I fixed it, there was nothing
novel storm
I see you have too much money
I did, but now I have a Moonlander
ngl if I get this career job I will straight up piss any excess money away into my health
warm bloom
I thought CP2077 was pretty immersive tbh. I felt right in character throughout...
Tons of breakable bounds ~ visually unfinished / gutted content ~ very simple ai ~ police were extremely unimpressive ~ gang fights were always super repetitive and linear ~ driving / traffic ai was awful ~ water had no interactions ~ lack of working vending machines or arcade games ~ same exact character models side by side walking down the street ~ children were shrunken adults
proud jay
a standing desk could help with changing positions throughout the day as well
warm bloom
and then the combat felt mediocre
proud jay
ngl if I get this career job I will straight up piss any excess money away into ...
excess money? did you apply for CEO or something?
chrome gull
Tons of breakable bounds ~ visually unfinished / gutted content ~ very simple ai...
well half of them are fair but the other half ain't
warm bloom
the story only felt interesting once johnny appears
novel storm
excess money? did you apply for CEO or something?
I wish, but I live in Indiana so COL is p low. Any cash after added savings and student loan payments I'm gonna put into ergonomic stuff, more nutritional supplements, etc
fathom wadi
and it was an open world with a story so you got what you paid for. And we can all criticise games to any degree but as far as games go, it was very very good
proud jay
I wish, but I live in Indiana so COL is p low. Any cash after added savings and...
I'd only buy supplements if your doctor says you need them
most of them are a scam
especially in murica where they sell anything as "medicine"
warm bloom
like assassins creed odyssey or far cry 5 or red dead redemption 2
are light years better
imo
chrome gull
are light years better
no way you said ACO and FC5 are better
fathom wadi
its all preference tho so I respect that.
chrome gull
than CP2077
warm bloom
and it was an open world with a story so you got what you paid for. And we can ...
I didn't get what I paid for because their marketing was so
misleading
fathom wadi
to be fair, Farcry 5 was very good. RDR2 was boring as hell tho
chrome gull
ACO is the most grindy, bloated and dreadful game I've ever played
FC5 was pretty fun
haven't played RDR2
warm bloom
aco is really fun
fathom wadi
I didn't get what I paid for because their marketing was so
I went through all their marketing to prove a point and they never misled on any of it. They gave exactly what they said they would except for two things. Mantis Claw climbing and trains
fleet tangle
I'd only buy supplements if your doctor says you need them
I take Centrum. Not because my doctor told me to, but just as a safety net.
proud jay
what is that
chrome gull
I went through all their marketing to prove a point and they never misled on any...
wall running
warm bloom
and flying fucking cars
fleet tangle
It's a vitamin supplement.
proud jay
do you have a deficit?
novel storm
especially in murica where they sell anything as "medicine"
True. Mostly diet. I've become a Bryan Johnson stan lately and it's been interesting
proud jay
cause too much can also be bad
fleet tangle
Probably.
proud jay
you can test it with bloodwork lol
warm bloom
I wasn't disappointed in the story it's a solid 8/10 maybe a 9
I was just disappointed in the world
I like exploring everything
chrome gull
I'll maybe try it again in the far future
after I cut through my backlog of several 100 hour long games
fleet tangle
you can test it with bloodwork lol
Well, the last time I ahd bloodwork done, I wasn't deficient while taking them. Or having too much. So I'm gonna continue the trend.
fathom wadi
after I cut through my backlog of several 100 hour long games
I got to act 2 in Baldur's Gate after 50 hours in act 1. So I put it down and went back to Blender for now. Loved it but damn ...
warm bloom
hopefully cd projekt red can redeem themselves in the future but they made me stop preordering games
ngl
fathom wadi
I instantly pre-ordered Phantom Liberty.
proud jay
I instantly pre-ordered Phantom Liberty.
that's wild
warm bloom
I instantly pre-ordered Phantom Liberty.
I hope that dlc makes it into a full game
chrome gull
I got to act 2 in Baldur's Gate after 50 hours in act 1. So I put it down and w...
yeah some games are soooo long
but tbf as long as they are fun idc
proud jay
pre ordering something they promised would be free at first, and is an expansion to one of the most broken disappointing launches
chrome gull
hopefully cd projekt red can redeem themselves in the future but they made me st...
I only preordered 2 games in my entire life - Just Cause 4 and Starfield
one was bleh and the jury's still out for the other one
warm bloom
idk though these newer assassins creed games look real bad
fathom wadi
I hope that dlc makes it into a full game
dude thats just excessive criticism. The original game was a full game. It had a beginning, middle and end with the story. It took over 40 hours to complete. I mean, what do you want out of it? Is there something you felt it needed?
warm bloom
like the Viking ones had terrible movement systems
warm bloom
dude thats just excessive criticism. The original game was a full game. It had...
well not story wise just the world
imo gta 5 from a decade ago had better ai
and more interactive things
I don't actually know what the phantom liberty dlc adds in terms of story
or how much it costs
fathom wadi
its £30
it basically reboots the whole game they say. New story, different way to complete it. etc.
new area too
broken sigil
Yeah I'm playing it as soon as it comes out
warm bloom
like i said the cyberpunk story was solid 8/10 maybe 9
fathom wadi
I don't pre-order games usually. I do it perhaps once every 5 years. But I had to with this. I know the console players had a rough time with CP but I played on PC and found it really enjoyable
warm bloom
talking about far cry 5 made me want to play it again
ngl
that game has the best fishing mechanics ever
it's so fun
fathom wadi
I watched my wife complete farcry 5 at least 25 times. She's an expert on it to the point she got me to teach her how to hack games so she could find hidden unused content and things.
warm bloom
when's phantom come out anywah
fathom wadi
september
warm bloom
I watched my wife complete farcry 5 at least 25 times. She's an expert on it to...
oh my god 25
I've played it only twice
fathom wadi
I played the first area and got bored knowing the rest of it is just the same repeated. But she was obsessed with for a solid 3 years
warm bloom
I hope far cry 7 is a brand new game
chrome gull
I watched my wife complete farcry 5 at least 25 times. She's an expert on it to...
WHAT
twenty-five times??
proud jay
it basically reboots the whole game they say. New story, different way to compl...
well, they say a lot of things
warm bloom
far cry 6 is kinda just a reskin
fathom wadi
yeah its not an exaggeration either
fleet tangle
Was fc6 the cult one?
fathom wadi
no that was 5
fleet tangle
What was 6?
chrome gull
with bullet sponges
fleet tangle
Hmm. Think I skipped 6 then.
fathom wadi
6 is the south american one with Gus Fring
warm bloom
a reskin with less features at that
when is that new division game coming out
the free to play one
fathom wadi
heartland. Dunno. But I bet it flops
I'm a huge Division fan but they consistently ruined it over time
warm bloom
oh late this year or early next year cool
fathom wadi
Something that really pisses me off in games dev right now is removing content in sequels. Like they make a game where people love it. They have all this content and game modes. Then make a sequel and take it all out. Like why? Just add to it you special kind of lazy bastards.
Like Diablo 4 for example
chrome gull
Just Cause 4 is the best example of this
guys removed everything people loved from the previous game
like why
fathom wadi
they did the same with The Division 2
warm bloom
if you're gonna reskin a game why take content away from me I'm all for copy and pasting good titles that took years
but why not just add more content
Ubisoft does this all day long
all their titles
fathom wadi
Yep
warm bloom
assassins creed has the same issue
it's annoying
you have to wait a few years til they start from scratch again
then you get a solid game
but first they release their testing games
like assassins creed origins
is like the test of the new engine and features for odyssey
and then they copy their next few games
dude it was actually the same with unity to syndicate
god that's awful
and it's all documented
on their fandom
proud jay
diablo 4 already on sale lol
bronze axle
Soon.
inland oriole
diablo 4 already on sale lol
Isn't this the one where you had to spend a million dollars in order to get all end-game gear or something? xD
proud jay
yes
inland oriole
inland oriole
10/10
unborn lotus
I read that it feels polished with minimal bugs
inland oriole
lol
Also this a typical triple A studio game move. Not announcing what the gameplay is actually about but instead just saying "we sell games people play" 🤣
Storage: 125 GB available space
No thanks.
proud jay
how can there be any meaningful reviews already though
unborn lotus
Embargo lifted just now
inland oriole
Those are not "meaningful" in any way. Those are often just trying to make it look better than it is so they don't get kicked out of being able to review their next games.
🙃
proud jay
Oh I recognise this game engine
it's powerpoint
hey the current top starfield streamer cohhcarnage played our shitty indie game at release
inland oriole
I'm definitely biased though, I absolutely do not like those big companies reviewing games.
unborn lotus
what's the catch with xbox/pc game pass? all these games (and starfield) for like 7 euros per month?
proud jay
there is no catch yet
farm subs, raise prices
that's how services work
look at netflix
inland oriole
there is no catch yet
There doesn't have to be a catch either though.
proud jay
I think microsoft likes money though
Laura could tell you all about it
they crunch the money out
inland oriole
They pay developers to have games on gamepass, people buy the subscription and end up giving Microsoft money and so the loop continues. Then after some time new games go on there and other games get yoinked away so that you now need to buy the game you spend hours on x)
proud jay
well most people will not play a game longer than the game pass shelf life though
inland oriole
It's still an amazing deal to try out games though.
proud jay
it is a good deal
proud jay
is it?
inland oriole
If they didn't make money from it or gained something else from it they wouldn't be keeping gamepass 😄
proud jay
that's all pretty high
proud jay
If they didn't make money from it or gained something else from it they wouldn't...
pretty sure they're still running at a loss atm
proud jay
depends on who you ask
proud jay
not all reviewers have the same standard for a 9 for example
inland oriole
A 7 on average still means nothing when it's only a few companies getting a look at a small portion of the game though 🤷♀️
proud jay
If they didn't make money from it or gained something else from it they wouldn't...
have you seen any modern tech company btw, all running on losses in the hopes of future revenue
chrome gull
yeah I'm still in the process of reading all the reviews (like I won't be playing the game in a few hours hahaha)
inland oriole
have you seen any modern tech company btw, all running on losses in the hopes of...
Yeah. There are also companies who hope they get bought over by someone else and then it's their problem. Microsoft / Xbox aren't going to be bought over randomly though. Those companies are gigantic.
chrome gull
i've discovered tons of good games on XGP
proud jay
Yeah. There are also companies who hope they get bought over by someone else and...
gigantic enough to run losses for years on one division
it's like amazon
they make bank on AWS so they can lose money on things like twitch or undercutting competition till they die
inland oriole
EGS does the exact same thing. They throw a ton of money into it in the hope it eventually starts generating revenue for the rest of the companies existence 😛
But it absolutely did not make any money for a long time. I'm not sure how they are doing these days but you get the point xD
proud jay
but it is a great deal if you play games regularly
I don't play that many games anymore these days myself though
inland oriole
The launcher is absurd.
proud jay
or a reverse financed intern
inland oriole
I was looking at my library the other day and noticed I have a bunch of mod SDKs in there. Turns out you can't remove them or any game for that matter because they don't offer that functionality. You can't even hide them D:
I don't understand how they don't see how big of an issue their whole interface is though. It's absurd they put millions of dollars into that product and then still have the most barebones functionality.
I'm probably one of the very few people that want them to succeed but it's absurd how much is missing :/
I was in a stream for a game today with the developers playing and someone was asking "Why don't they just add all mods for the game into the game" and I was genuinly confused why after all these years it's still not clear games can't just throw everything into their game in a second 😦
Especially if it's 10-20 people versus an entire army of modders x)
proud jay
and why would you even
inland oriole
I mean fair enough. It's definitely much easier for me to say "Why don't they just fix it?" then someone within Epic getting paid to do so lol.
inland oriole
The person asking was playing on console and we all know how much Sony / Microsoft etc. love mods.
proud jay
factorio is also making a space expansion, co created by the guy that made the well known space exploration mod
at least that's different
proud jay
well it is downloadable
technically the base game is also DLC in that sense 🤔
as are most games
have we been living in DLC all along?
inland oriole
I can't be bothered to use words every company gives something while we for a long time have named things like these "DLC"
inland oriole
I can't wait for the day people do the same with micro-transactions 😆
But I'm not old though.
"DLC" is the word I grew up with 🥲
proud jay
_But I'm not old though._
are you like 15
inland oriole
- So might as well be.
bronze axle
im about to ask chat gpt for spoilers
Good luck. ChatGPT doesnt know anything after 2021.
inland oriole
Why is "dinosaurus" called "sauropod" 😆
I was born in 2001. So you might understand why I was saying I literally grew up with that name x)
The lower price thing?
proud jay
unfortunately
lofty lark
The worst part is the consumers continuing to give those companies their money 🙃
Actually what I would consider worse than that, is the part of the community that acknowledges the problem, complains about the problem, and then continues to give them their money 🙃🙃
sry but my fav streamer is playing that game and buying all the dlc and comsetics so obvi i have to too
I didn't mind DLC much at all growing up... granted my initial exposure to DLC was COD and battlefield. I was cool with spending $15 for 4 new multiplayer maps and a new nazi zombie map :p
I've always just viewed dlc and expansions as one and the same, just different names 
fleet tangle
Back in teh day you had to actually buy physical copies that extended your game.
They are essentially the same thing, barring that.
The internet has just made it convenient to release smaller amounts of content per release.
Depends on the game/developer what DLC actually is.
Borderlands DLC, for instance, is generally very well made and mid-sized.
lofty lark
It's just really sad that the state of AAA games especially, has devolved from, "we want to use our resources to make great shit," to "we want to use our resources to milk your wallet." 😦
lofty lark
Borderlands DLC, for instance, is generally very well made and mid-sized.
Borderlands is the first non-multiplayer game I played with DLC and I thought they always did a good job with it
fleet tangle
Yup!
Admittedly, they have released some "hey this is a new playable character" dlc which was shit.
But all their actual content updates are really good.
broken sigil
I was born in 2001. So you might understand why I was saying I literally grew up...
Oh a fellow baby
Tho I'm 2 years older 
lofty lark
10 bucks for new areas, enemies, guns and story? hell yeah. But now you got shit like Destiny 2. "$40 for a couple hours of story plz and a raid. if you don't buy it, we lock you out of some content too hehe"
"oh and here buy our $15 season pass too"
fleet tangle
ikr
broken sigil
Hey mine does, am I in the cool kids club?
lofty lark
"and to compensate for the price increase, we also took dungeons out of the season pass. you have to buy those too hehe"
broken sigil
lofty lark
the game lies about being free to play
inland oriole
Oh a fellow baby
Tho I'm 2 years older <:berk:1013540048785907743>
You didn't have to say it that way.. 😭
lofty lark
it's a fucking demo
and the new user experience is dogshit
it doesn't help they removed almost all the story content that was in the game on launch
including the first two paid dlc
inland oriole
Even @slate drift made fun of me for my age 😆
broken sigil
That's like 30 ish
Practically 1 leg in the grave already
inland oriole
The server I moderate in there's a fellow mod who is like 80-90 years old. It's great XD
lofty lark
It has the worst progression system I have ever experienced in a game too. "You are only allowed to progress this much every week, and you have to do these specific activities every week to progress." and it's 90% the same exact shit they had you do 6 years ago when the game launched
broken sigil
The server I moderate in there's a fellow mod who is like 80-90 years old. It's ...
Tbf like 90% of my daily interactions, be it online or irl is with people much older than me
That actually makes me feel a tiny bit better, considering I look back at my 18th birthday with massive nostalgia lmao
slate drift
Even <@393501253184913418> made fun of me for my age 😆
I did, zoomer ^^
lofty lark
It has the worst progression system I have ever experienced in a game too. "You ...
I wish the game was as fun to play as it is to look at. I love the concept of the game. I love the visuals. Everything else is atrocious 🥲
slate drift
Acting as I'm not a zoomer myself
inland oriole
I think you were like just on the edge of being a millennial, Wizard?
unreal ether
😭
inland oriole
Damn parents not considering that I'm now a zoomer smh 🤣
"Next time"
I'm not a refundable product, sorry to disappoint Laura.
lofty lark
stop that
lofty lark
that never occured to me and that's just wild
inland oriole
I don't think we need to have this talk with you any more I hope.
proud jay
so what is between 93 and 98, asking for a friend
inland oriole
😂
slate drift
stap ittt
inland oriole
so what is between 93 and 98, asking for a friend
The people that fix printers.
Wizard have you already taken over your job's lead role? 😄
proud jay
event gang rise up
slate drift
Wizard have you already taken over your job's lead role? 😄
Working on it
broken sigil
Are you like 70 
slate drift
You have a very special manner of convincing
inland oriole
There was a YouTube short and they were using the term "I tiktok'd without a firewall" and it was the most absurd thing I had ever seen.
slate drift
Gonna use that against our designers
inland oriole
NewObject intensifies.
broken sigil
Oh
inland oriole
Wizard is a lie all along 🥲
unreal ether
Oh <:berk:1013540048785907743>
All them 2025 babies out there
slate drift
It's still not looking good no?
broken sigil
All them 2025 babies out there
Imagine being a baby pff
inland oriole
Imagine being a baby pff
proud jay
I feel like they've given up on generation naming after millenials
inland oriole
❤️
lofty lark
Oh <:berk:1013540048785907743>
"Yeah they're all a lil broken. They need a lil fixin before they can function right"
inland oriole
What even is life am I right Dieter.
lofty lark
why not just refer the generation by the years
instead of weird words
oh. sorry for the suggestion 
inland oriole
What instead of "generations" we start calling them "hotfixes".
unreal ether
or gen alpha
Clearly means they're radioactive
unreal ether
Run and hide when generation gamma comes around
inland oriole
Lol
broken sigil
What instead of "generations" we start calling them "hotfixes".
Patch 2025.2
proud jay
2012 apparently
deep glen
inland oriole
I saw the emoji and I thought it was Wizard.
The disappointment is unreal 😔
This is my cue to disappear again. This is the peak of the day.
proud jay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coloFRmppjs
where is the spider conductor?
unreal ether
Is this some cursed version of a superconductor? Who let the scientists think again?
broken sigil
We need a :baby_yells_at_unreal: emoji lol
deep glen
where is the spider conductor?
Oh it was related to a random discussion me and some friends had, and someone miswrote something.
proud jay
lmao that ending
deep glen
speaking off, @broken sigil still wanted to generate an image for me iirc
broken sigil
speaking off, <@261183265438695424> still wanted to generate an image for me iir...
Checks dms
mental veldt
What instead of "generations" we start calling them "hotfixes".
That would in some way suggest later generations are in some way better 😂 Gen X all the way!
hybrid jasper
hi
empty dune
That would in some way suggest later generations are in some way better 😂 Gen ...
what about "Version Updates"?
Version updates are not necessarily always better than previous ones 😂
mental veldt
what about "Version Updates"?
Version updates are not necessarily always better...
yes that works 👍 they introduce their own set of bugs and undocumented features...
empty dune
yes that works 👍 they introduce their own set of bugs and undocumented features...
but what happens when you roll back a version update? 🥹
updatecide
mental veldt
but what happens when you roll back a version update? 🥹
I really wish I hadn't pictured what you just said! 🤦♂️
empty dune
kek
worldly mesa
does the steam version of substance painter come with all the invasive adobe windows services and background running apps?, or does the steam DRM handle it?
indeed :/
same. i know it does not contain 'creative cloud' but i still wonder about the 4 other services constantly running (if they are still included)
worldly mesa
yeah, that's the type of Windows service they install that bug me (barring cloud based stuff)
worldly mesa
oh, that's not good. i know they are still selling 2023, but IDK if 2024 is coming.. sounds like no, from that
fleet tangle
In about 4 months
worldly mesa
Mixer is officially at its final version, but they seem to have something else planned.. perhaps a suite?
well, depending on your needs, maybe the Layer Painter add-on for blender is enough,. i just forked and updated it to include edge masks, and procedural grunge maps. PR is waiting on acceptance, but you can pull it from my Git if you wanted to try it
lol
proud jay
woops I accidentally cracked photoshop
worldly mesa
yeah, but manually setting up all the layers, every freakin' time is Super slow workflow killer :/ that is why i was so glad to find Layer Painter. had to contribute, just because it was so helpful
Yeah, layer's are a manual thing, without this plugin
nope. Nice!
celest musk
i watched 10 minutes and it was... exhausting to watch
i feel like the quality of the UE streams is going down
or they are just too slow placed for intermediates?
celest musk
matthew wadstein does that!?
just watch them at 5x speed 😄
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glad they leave something like that for "compatibility" reasons around 😄
worldly mesa
just watch them at 5x speed 😄
No joke! 🙂 my literal folder name
fleet tangle
That font!
worldly mesa
I find it very easy to read! y'all are just mean 😛
fleet tangle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/the-sunk-cost-fallacy
chrome gull
lmao 😭
fleet tangle
That would depend on your local laws.
However, I highly suspect they aren't paying taxes and you shoudl report them to the local government.
After offering them a loan secured on their house which they will then be unable to repay.
regal pecan
Something tells me Varun is not a centralized bank, otherwise that would be sound advice
sweet rose
After offering them a loan secured on their house which they will then be unable...
He owns the restaurant and the building, the room above the restaurant is for rent
sweet rose
That would depend on your local laws.
it's legal
worldly mesa
it's legal
I would not do it.
fleet tangle
One key thing regular payments make is a paper trail, in case they try to say you didn't pay
errant raven
Can landlords ask for cash only
If they do, make sure you have proof of payment. They may try to fuck you over
My neighborhood is trying to make a new housing rule where any "tenants with a dog over 30 pounds will have 3 days to leave"
"Trying", I dnt think its gonna get very far considering everyone has hounds and pits
fleet tangle
Indeed.
timber viper
is it just me or bg3 act 3 is beyond unplayable
i was having fun with around 50-60 fps now its barely 15
fathom wadi
i was having fun with around 50-60 fps now its barely 15
check to make sure the patch didn't set your resolution up to 4k. Mine reset last patch and I was getting awful FPS but I usually play in 1440p because 4k is really heavy
errant raven
Killer klowns from outer space are getting a game
And it's just a dead by daylight clone
Sorta
fluid bloom
I wonder if we'll get project zomboid with better graphics with this 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ_TWsTlXnw
proud jay
I hate zombie games
unborn lotus
and days gone
fluid bloom
the best zombie game to date is probably last of us
pearl elk
soft night
blame mons for this hue thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9mEVc0DS9w
proud jay
I will never trust "smart" security
pearl elk
Isnt there some Cyberpunk 2077 2.0 thing9 tonight?
graceful sequoia
yep WP has the exact same damn bug
as it was in 5.0
basically "dont use the cardinal axes!!!!!"
i really hope i just dont know some magical incantation because
otherwise it seems like world partition is completely useless
without some very careful world design
hmmm
well that implies this eventually ends, that only things within 4x of your grid's load distance will stay loaded
lemme check that once i relaunch the editor since it decided to die
fwiw its 50 feet of gap
not like these are perfectly on the axis
its actually a little lopsided too, but that might just be sloppy methodology on my part
oh right
i guess on that point, its not as bad as it seems, because very dense very small objects are unlikely to do so
i suppose for your "architectural" or "environmental" grid, youd want to be sure to set the grid size itself to be large in addition to the load distance, to minimize this effect
oh yes
timber viper
"game dev is not stressful"
graceful sequoia
you can use some prioritization to help
but absolutely not solve
i was hoping to find some new WP loading observation API
timber viper
you can use some prioritization to _help_
another usecase for behavior trees 
graceful sequoia
i meant grid loading prioritization
yeah it doesnt exist
or if it does, its.... shall we say absolutely undocumented
for characters so far i have some hacks
things like checks for floors and disabling physics, some teleporting stuff. But nothing works well
honestly a nightmare
timber viper
is this all to workaround a single WP bug?
graceful sequoia
well no
to work around multiple WP bugs
but the fact that you cannot enforce loading order? yeah
if your object has physics, its gone
or at least, indeterminantly gone
timber viper
interesting, why Fortnite doesnt suffer from this?
timber viper
if it doesnt, why it exist in the engine 
timber viper
oh wut gif did i pull
oh well 
graceful sequoia
sadly it seems just a tech demo
timber viper
i really wonder how epic responds to "actual" clients
we got a fking expensive license and WP doesnt work
answer: lmao
graceful sequoia
"you weren't supposed to actually use that"
timber viper
"but you marketed it to us 
"
graceful sequoia
I really hoped it was gonna get better in a few point releases
because the old system is so insane as to be useless unless you have a huge team
what was it called again
world.... composition
timber viper
nativization didnt work, water doesnt work, statetree is buggy, aimodule is dumpster fire, wp doesnt work, vcs integration is shitty, c++ is awful
in house engines should be beyond terrible
if Epic can survive with this amount of half assing
timber viper
graceful sequoia
I bet the larian engine is nice
graceful sequoia
I'm in act 3
timber viper
it cant render much skeletal meshes
graceful sequoia
it's not great perf but it's actually impressive what they do on crowds and stuff
timber viper
I'm in act 3
i just started and my fps dropped from 50 to 15
graceful sequoia
cheers in 3080ti
timber viper
its cpu bottleneck
rather than gpu
ryzen 2600 cant take it, i wonder how xbox series will take it
which is even weaker than ps4
graceful sequoia
yeah core i9 12900k for me, and it's ... ok. about 30-40 fps with some noticable frame stutter
woven wing
How come no one uses right click as 'back' in menuing
graceful sequoia
(on 4k)
graceful sequoia
How come no one uses right click as 'back' in menuing
because I don't want that
shtaaap
woven wing
See it sometimes in eastern developed games, in EDF and AC6 for instance, but I can't think of a single western developed game that does that
graceful sequoia
nah it's ehm 2160p 16:9
not even cinema 4k is 4k*4k
cause that would actually be 16k
woven wing
It sounds bad, but 'plays' good
graceful sequoia
I want my right click to be for... like menus and stuff
woven wing
In and out of menuing with just a mouse
graceful sequoia
that's fair I guess. for certain games it could work. makes me think of death stranding
on PC, kind of a nightmare controls wise
woven wing
Some games do use right click for like bringing up a menu
graceful sequoia
all creative tools should have fluffy mode though
because it sounds comforting under crunch
woven wing
that's fair I guess. for certain games it could work. makes me think of death st...
Didn't play it, did DS have right click back in the menus?
median wraith
Damm the dragon from the editor
graceful sequoia
sup hevedy! man, Laura, hevedy, I popped on at a good time
and Eren of course sorry eren
woven wing
I don't ping Laura because she does this
graceful sequoia
k, make that 25875
woven wing
And I feel dumb (deserved)
empty dune
please can this happen 😭
graceful sequoia
I've been hanging out with the forge folks (actually, Neoforged now because they're forking) and pings are strictly forbidden
median wraith
25874 RTX TI
median wraith
And I feel dumb (deserved)
Don't worry thats the common day of a programmer
graceful sequoia
so I got used to hitting that bell on every reply to avoid banishment
timber viper
graceful sequoia
ahh the 25874 RTX Ti, not to be confused with the 25874 GeForce RTX Ti, which behaves entirely differently
woven wing
I like how Epic is giving out unannounced RX 7500s
graceful sequoia
yes all three are from different generations and have nothing in common. Thanks Nvidia!
empty dune
oh totally, im secretly the owner of a AAA studio thats using unreal engine 5 to make the next AAAA game, how did you know??
graceful sequoia
oh totally, im secretly the owner of a AAA studio thats using unreal engine 5 to...
most people here are in AAAAA studios, so.
doesn't mean much really
empty dune
damnit
empty dune
the AAAh is me screaming
GOTY
graceful sequoia
welcome to unreal. scratch that, welcome to game development
median wraith
Why Spiderman games are Spider-Man and not the combo or Spider+Man
Someone have the reply
proud jay
should I do a woodworking course of 160 hours for 410 euros including material and machine usage 🤔
seems like good value
graceful sequoia
not if you hate woodworking no
median wraith
should I do a woodworking course of 160 hours for 410 euros including material a...
sounds good
graceful sequoia
that would not be a good value
proud jay
I like woodworking with my hand tools so far
thing is I don't have machines at home, so outside of class can't do shit
median wraith
Wait you don't have foot tools ?
graceful sequoia
converts currencies
graceful sequoia
I mean everyone's gotta have a hobby
median wraith
at this point maybe is better to making living money from there than games that's collapsed
proud jay
well I don't make games either way
graceful sequoia
yeah career change! open an Etsy shop
proud jay
the course guy was also promoting it like you can find work with this lol
I was like bitch please, I'm a swe, I can get a job in 4.2 nanoseconds
median wraith
That always are liars
proud jay
this would be more of a hobby thing
median wraith
I was like bitch please, I'm a swe, I can get a job in 4.2 nanoseconds
swe ?
woven wing
I had a recruiter reach out to me like "Hey, wanna go be armed security in Bahgdad"
proud jay
and maybe come in handy when working on my own house
proud jay
why do you hate sweden
proud jay
mostly cause I read it as Sweeee
that's the best part about it
proud jay
I had a recruiter reach out to me like "Hey, wanna go be armed security in Bahgd...
I got a job offer for a student job as worker in a warehouse recently lol
it's like those people don't know how to read
median wraith
Wait, that easy is to get a job as software engineer in the north ?
graceful sequoia
and why is it soft
fleet tangle
I've always thought people who use hyphens are rather dashing.
woven wing
I got a job offer for a student job as worker in a warehouse recently lol
"Do YoU wAnNa ClImB tOwErS aNd InStAlL 5G!?!" - x5 every day
proud jay
Wait, that easy is to get a job as software engineer in the north ?
depends on how high your standards are
median wraith
@proud jay in what industry you work right now ?
proud jay
but if you have none, then yes
I'm currently a backend dev in a supply chain planning company
median wraith
oh
graceful sequoia
Webdev!
proud jay
idk if you can really call it webdev in se though
proud jay
I guees
but it goes so deep
we're transforming our fat client to a service based architecture with a thin client (aka this frontend)
empty dune
I had a recruiter reach out to me like "Hey, wanna go be armed security in Bahgd...
wild, absolutely wild
proud jay
I feel like saying web dev gives this connotation of making websites for companies
like wordpress crap and the likes
graceful sequoia
yeah
fleet tangle
I've never made a wordpress site. I hope to continue this trend.
proud jay
I've never made a website
wait, except my portfolio
with drag and drop wordpress lol
woven wing
graceful sequoia
for a few years I did php webdev, including WordPresses and magentos. never again
proud jay
there's not much difference between making a desktop application and "web dev" though
proud jay
just that you separate the UI and work with an api
graceful sequoia
there's not much difference between making a desktop application and "web dev" t...
agreed, especially these days
everything is networked, APIs are always needed
empty dune
whats indeed?
fleet tangle
there's not much difference between making a desktop application and "web dev" t...
You don't have to use html and css. Or any web-related language.
proud jay
neither do I as backend boy though
fleet tangle
Then you're good!
woven wing
whats indeed?
Like a job posting board thing
proud jay
Like a job posting board thing
indeed it is
graceful sequoia
is it indeed
fleet tangle
Indeed is a spam machine
empty dune
Like a job posting board thing
i was half expecting you to say "indeed deez nuts"
proud jay
indeedz nuts
woven wing
empty dune
lol
empty dune
as in... employee with benefits?
frie.....
proud jay
as in... employee with benefits?
the boss will fuck you over any day
woven wing
Honestly, looking at it, it doesn't sound too terrible
proud jay
Honestly, looking at it, it doesn't sound too terrible
except that you could kill/get killed I guess
and it's in baghdad
woven wing
They pay better than the last company who sent me over there
graceful sequoia
software engineers are well known to be good armed guards this is true
woven wing
Army, and Afghanistan but close enough
empty dune
They pay better than the last company who sent me over there
OR, you could make [REDACTED} herding games! XD
proud jay
what happened that you are a vet at 29?
woven wing
When statetrees are like "Linker." I got scared
woven wing
what happened that you are a vet at 29?
Blown off a roof
graceful sequoia
it's not uncommon for 29 year olds to be veterans....
graceful sequoia
at least in the us
proud jay
it's not uncommon for 29 year olds to be veterans....
doesn't make it a good thing
woven wing
Most peoples only do like ~5 years and get out
graceful sequoia
folks join young, do a few terms and leave. if there was a war, I'd suppose you are a veteran. hmm, do we consider servicemen not in active war to be veterans? not sure on that
empty dune
research sheep
woven wing
They pay for uni completely, and like a few thousand dollerydoos a month while you're in school
graceful sequoia
if you specialized in something, you usually go into that industry
proud jay
I never got the whole army thing personally
but it's for a specific kind of person I guess
or when you are in need of their benefits to survive
graceful sequoia
well someone's gotta do it
proud jay
I of course am priviledged to live in a quite peaceful country
unreal ether
If everyone refused there would be no more war 🧠
proud jay
If everyone refused there would be no more war 🧠
world peace achieved
graceful sequoia
I of course am priviledged to live in a quite peaceful country
cries in empirialism
woven wing
If everyone refused there would be no more war 🧠
Outsorcing war to AI 😔
unborn lotus
We had mandatory service, but they got rid of it like one year before I was supposed to go 😌
graceful sequoia
is that not something that can be googled
proud jay
we have taken our hands off of colonialism 🥁
only people familiar with belgian atrocities will get that joke
empty dune
everyone is familiar with the belgian warcrimes stuff
graceful sequoia
you can't Dieter me if Dieter didn't already respond, that's a technical foul
empty dune
its like the emu war level internet lore
proud jay
idk about everyone lol
graceful sequoia
(just go with it Dieter, it benefits you)
inland oriole
technically belgium did nothing wrong
Biggest lie of the century 👀
graceful sequoia
oh crap Belgium controversy
woven wing
wChocolate
inland oriole
We all know Belgium isn't real though.
woven wing
Wait, he already said that
graceful sequoia
....is probably the only time I'll be able to say that
empty dune
We all know Belgium isn't real though.
thats france
inland oriole
That too.
proud jay
france is quitelarge though, hard to miss
graceful sequoia
Belgium is the place with that weird version of English ?
proud jay
what
woven wing
That's England
proud jay
you mean the UK?
graceful sequoia
lmao
empty dune
france is a story made up by mothers to make sure children finish their bread
proud jay
which is the normal version of english
proud jay
but belgium has 3 official languages, Dutch, French and German
inland oriole
I still love how France strategically placed one of their nuclear reactors next to Belgium 🤣
woven wing
My parents made me learn how to spell every word in the dictionary when I was really little
graceful sequoia
neutrality? I dunno
unborn lotus
I still love how France _strategically_ placed one of their nuclear reactors nex...
I think that is shared between them though
graceful sequoia
reminds me of Canada units
woven wing
It was an Oxford dictionary, and they didn't know the difference
And it's ruined me for life
inland oriole
I think that is shared between them though
Shared as in?
proud jay
I think that is shared between them though
if by share you mean we buy power, yes, other than that no
inland oriole
Maybe they share the energy that comes out of the reactor but it's still on ground from the French.
proud jay
Maybe they share the energy that comes out of the reactor but it's still on grou...
of coure we also share the radiation poisoning
graceful sequoia
at least we're wrong consistently
inland oriole
For weight?
proud jay
yes
proud jay
fleet tangle
A stone is obviously the weight of a stone.
fleet tangle
It's split into sub-units called pounds (lbs) of which there are 14 per stone..
graceful sequoia
and also all the us customary units are defined via conversion to metric. so like it or not, we are on the metric system (this is more funny talking to dumb pro-customary unit americans)
proud jay
cause metric has standards
graceful sequoia
ayo
fleet tangle
No matter what they're defined as, the metrics system is based around the idea of base 10, which they apparently don't l ike. Probably because they don't have 10 fingers, damned hillbilly inbred mutants.
graceful sequoia
lol
fleet tangle
And I'm saying this in a country that uses only half metrics units.
graceful sequoia
as an American, Sounds Accurate (TM)
woven wing
People complain about Imperial units and turn around and use 60s, 60m, 12x2 or 24hr, 28,29,30,31 days, 12 months, 7 days in a week,
graceful sequoia
that's a practical concern though
inland oriole
Didn't the US officially switch over to the metric system but people are just too stubborn to give up the imperial system?
proud jay
their scientists use it
empty dune
People complain about Imperial units and turn around and use 60s, 60m, 12x2 or 2...
laughs in sidereal units
graceful sequoia
Didn't the US officially switch over to the metric system but people are just to...
no just in how we define the customary units
fleet tangle
That's what the UK did, Thom, at least.
graceful sequoia
actually to be fair month day counts are fucked
woven wing
We tried that in the US, and according to my Dad (only sometimes right) "Everyone hated it because they were getting ripped off on gas"
graceful sequoia
that's a worldwide problem (mostly)
proud jay
they fucked up some space craft back in the day cause the one guy was measuring in inches and the other thought it was centimeters or something
graceful sequoia
why do we do this to ourselves
fleet tangle
they fucked up some space craft back in the day cause the one guy was measuring ...
The challenger explosion?
empty dune
their scientists use it
mostly because of that one idiot who programmed the acceleration of a particular spacecraft with imperial numbers and metric units
proud jay
I don't recall which one exactly
graceful sequoia
they fucked up some space craft back in the day cause the one guy was measuring ...
hey, NASA is smart!
woven wing
Challenger was a frozen o-ring
fleet tangle
Oh, it was the Mars Climate Orbiter.
proud jay
woven wing
Classic! 12" vs 12'
graceful sequoia
for what it's worth, most Americans don't consider Texas to be part of the country
although it's more US than Florida is
proud jay
for people that prefer video https://youtu.be/xGQgmmrXONk
empty dune
texas and florida is probably the most US out of all US states
inland oriole
actually to be fair month day counts are fucked
If only the US would join the EU in the more superior system 🥲
graceful sequoia
we're not sure what is up with Florida. seems to be some kind of swamp thing
fleet tangle
for people that prefer video https://youtu.be/xGQgmmrXONk
The chicken little skyscraper.
If the sky has fallen, it's touching it!!
woven wing
Idk how florida is still alive
graceful sequoia
If only the US would join the EU in the more superior system 🥲
ahm, I'm talking about the count of days in the months and what months they are. that's actually a place where US and EU agree
proud jay
the guy just scammed them by using inches instead of feet
empty dune
Idk how florida is still alive
more like how is any wild animals in florida still alive?
woven wing
Feels like every year there's a new massive hurricane that destroys a part of the state
proud jay
ahm, I'm talking about the count of days in the months and what months they are....
should've gone for months with 28 days
empty dune
they have to deal with florida men and women
florida is australia for all species except humans
graceful sequoia
should've gone for months with 28 days
but the Roman dictators would feel so trodden upon
inland oriole
There's a website where you can see what random event happened including a "Florida man" on the day you were born. It's pretty funny xD
proud jay
but the Roman dictators would feel so _trodden upon_
well they also invented extra months, what are you gonna do about it
graceful sequoia
hopefully get rid of them
but as I say that
do any of us want to program that?
inland oriole
Can I switch my birthday.
graceful sequoia
at... all
inland oriole
proud jay
we should start years in march again
unborn lotus
There's a website where you can see what random event happened including a "Flor...
Feels like every country has its own florida and florida man news 😅
graceful sequoia
hopefully Florida man doesn't become president. if so, run away from us
proud jay
make sept-dec make sens again
empty dune
inland oriole
hopefully Florida man doesn't become president. if so, run away from us
Florida is already messed up anyway. No need to run away only then XD
proud jay
hopefully Florida man doesn't become president. if so, run away from us
well trump his official residence is now in florida
graceful sequoia
hopefully Florida man doesn't become president. if so, run away from us
ehm... again
fleet tangle
Can I switch my birthday.
If they don't like it, they can go fuck themselves.
proud jay
is he actually in prison now
woven wing
I'm so excited for the trial to be livestreamed
proud jay
I saw he was arrested but assume he paid bail
graceful sequoia
is he actually in prison now
working on it
fleet tangle
It doesn't say he was doing it to himself.
empty dune
I'm so excited for the trial to be livestreamed
please no, that johnny depp vs amber heard one was bad enough
inland oriole
https://floridamanbirthday.org/
@sand oxide
woven wing
please no, that johnny depp vs amber heard one was bad enough
They announced today they're streaming it on Youtube
timber viper
meh nothing interesting
graceful sequoia
I think it should be a constitutional right for Florida men to castrate at home
inland oriole
They announced today they're streaming it on Youtube
Poor YouTube servers going down.
proud jay
why is my birtday cursed
graceful sequoia
who are we to stop them
inland oriole
why is my birtday cursed
Wtf. That's messed up.
empty dune
its a little biased towards the men tbh
proud jay
well, men are known to do stupid shit
timber viper
another "why women live longer" meme?
proud jay
well, men are known to do stupid shit
such as marrying women, amirite fellas
timber viper
why
inland oriole
~~such as marrying women, amirite fellas~~
Weren't you the one engaged?
graceful sequoia
yeah but Florida men take it to a new level. And it has occurred to me that someone in here listening is probably a Florida man (technically) but they are probably one of the good ones
inland oriole
Sad Dieter fiancee noises.
proud jay
well statistically speaking women do live longer
empty dune
i dont understand the "marrying is such torture dear god save me jk jk" jokes
timber viper
I kinda observe men really do more dumb and risky things in general too, though
proud jay
i dont understand the "marrying is such torture dear god save me jk jk" jokes
boomers hate their life
woven wing
boomers hate their life
Phone bad
inland oriole
😂
proud jay
I don't hate everyone equally, not based on gender though
graceful sequoia
Anyway, let's all agree to switch to an even 28 day 13 month calendar with one additional rest day per year.
woven wing
I wonder what the most remote place I can get fiber internet is
proud jay
mostly based on personality and actions
timber viper
half of my friends at the same age as me are married and I'm merely 22
inland oriole
Anyway, let's all agree to switch to an even 28 day 13 month calendar with one a...
No.
inland oriole
How about we first ditch all languages around the world and agree on the same language?
proud jay
half of my friends at the same age as me are married and I'm merely 22
is turkey one of those places still with arranged marriage or nah?
empty dune
Anyway, let's all agree to switch to an even 28 day 13 month calendar with one a...
better idea, 20 months, each dedicated to one space marine legion. the emperor protects
proud jay
How about we first ditch all languages around the world and agree on the same la...
I hate this
language is a part of culture
timber viper
is turkey one of those places still with arranged marriage or nah?
mostly the people who vote(d) for Erdogan do that
inland oriole
I hate this
I equally hate you too 😆
timber viper
but not the other half
proud jay
could as well say break down all the buildings and build the exact same apartment block everywhere
timber viper
could as well say break down all the buildings and build the exact same apartmen...
ew
inland oriole
language is a part of culture
So? Screw culture if that means people don't have to spend multiple years learning different languages 🤣
graceful sequoia
language is a part of culture
well it would probably be English. I'm not in favor, but you'd have to deal with this shitty language all the time
proud jay
So? Screw culture if that means people don't have to spend multiple years learni...
you don't have to
proud jay
and it's not that hard in a lot of cases tbh
inland oriole
you don't have to
You're telling me you can survive by only talking Dutch?
empty dune
You're telling me you can survive by only talking Dutch?
believe it or not, thats how the world worked not long ago
graceful sequoia
I do love those tiktoks where they construct a sentence in an arbitrary language that sounds ridiculous because all the words are the same
inland oriole
Sure technically you "can" but in reality most of us speak different languages.
graceful sequoia
somehow every language has managed it
inland oriole
believe it or not, thats how the world worked not long ago
History is a lie if it doesn't favor my hot take 🥲
empty dune
history is a lie unless the omnissian record keeps say its true
graceful sequoia
unreal slackers is why I make no progress on my dumb game.
well, also unreal doesn't work but yeah
proud jay
Sure technically you "can" but in reality most of us speak different languages.
you said it was a hard requirement, it's not
plenty of people don't
graceful sequoia
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oh hell yeah English is no exception
inland oriole
unreal slackers is why I make no progress on my dumb game.
well, also unreal ...
There's a good reason it's called "Unreal Slackers" 🥁
proud jay
especially in less "internationalised" countries
graceful sequoia
yep
proud jay
most americans only know one language
in romania only 35% of people speak a second language
unborn lotus
oh hell yeah English is no exception
woven wing
This is going to wreck my youtube algorithm isn't it
unborn lotus
in romania only 35% of people speak a second language
But 90% of youth speaks english
inland oriole
especially in less "internationalised" countries
Sure but there are also plenty of countries these days that teach multiple languages at schools. We had English and Dutch at our primary school and my highschool was giving French, Dutch, English and Latin as a must in the first year. Latin is by no means a standard but usually you also get a language like French or German on top of Dutch and English. It sucks.
empty dune
in asia youll get weird looks if you say you only speak 1 language. overwhelming majority know 2+
graceful sequoia
in California, it's 53% English only, 46% other language or both
proud jay
Sure but there are also plenty of countries these days that teach multiple langu...
it's quite educational though
proud jay
depends on the person
graceful sequoia
I just want one language to rule them all 😭
c#
empty dune
I just want one language to rule them all 😭
agrees in binary
proud jay
I got dutch, french, english and german in school, and latin and ancient greek
graceful sequoia
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cries in "writes typescript all day every day"
inland oriole
I got dutch, french, english and german in school, and latin and ancient greek
Me and Latin were absolutely not vibing. I managed to get a single "ok" grade for the time I did it XD
proud jay
oh we also very shortly learned some hebrew for some reason
but like only a few hours
I also thought myself basic swedish
languages can be interesting
but most people won't enjoy it indeed
graceful sequoia
I enjoyed them all except german
what's the worst part of German for you
worldly sapphire
The Germans
proud jay
what's the worst part of German for you
the existance of it
empty dune
The germans
inland oriole
German is just the yelling version of Dutch.
proud jay
nah the fact that it is a modern language and still uses all these cases
I know that's not unique to german
unborn lotus
German should be pretty easy to learn though
proud jay
but they do it in a way that I don't like
inland oriole
🤔
worldly sapphire
I feel like knowing Latin didn't help to learn German
Especially in high school
empty dune
German should be pretty easy to learn though
Extra dick
It means extra large i think. It was written over a pack of sausages and my friend and i absolutely lost it when we saw it