lounge

[broken sigil]

I kinda accepted it now 😅

[unborn lotus]

I have a cycling buddy with low 40s 😬

[broken sigil]

Damn lol
That feels uncomfortable even thinking about it lol

[unborn lotus]

Yeah

You gotta put on weight or smoke to raise it 😆

[broken sigil]

yeah I'm like 57KG lol
But I've been very active when I was younger, did parkour, whole bunch of running, etc... so that might play a role in my lower HR 😅

[unborn lotus]

57?? You would rule cycling uphill!

Get all the local PRs and everything

[broken sigil]

😅

[worldly sapphire]

In theory

I was just slow everywhere and I'm 57kg too

though when I was cycling I was still 51kg so that's probably why

[unborn lotus]

Where the 90+ gang at? 😢

[unborn lotus]

I think 50s is climber specialist and not so fast on the flat

[worldly sapphire]

Yeah, I was not healthy then, lots of stress, long commute and no exercise

[unborn lotus]

Read an article of a cyclist who put on 15kg to go faster

[worldly sapphire]

Then I went through a separation, started working out, watched my diet and eating habits

[cursive crypt]

Try some grounded meditation, or something along the lines.

[cursive crypt]

^

[worldly sapphire]

You can help me stay in the peloton on flat stages 😅

[unborn lotus]

Why attack me 😢

[cursive crypt]

That + is kinda too summarizing.

[unborn lotus]

I can be your domestique

[worldly sapphire]

Haha, anyways speaking about eating habits, time to make dinner ta

[cursive crypt]

Sweets help.

[broken sigil]

I got recommended by a friend as well to try it

[fathom wadi]

I remember when my brother came home from the army one time. He had just trained to be a physical training instructor. So I asked him "How do I expand my chest?" and he replied "Breathe in". Sarcastic bastard.

[unborn lotus]

I did 2L beer and pretzels every night lol

[broken sigil]

tried once by following a YT video, 20min felt like 30 seconds lol
But did not get around trying it again

[cursive crypt]

Avoid 'imagination" stuff in general and anyone who talks too much about "energy".

[broken sigil]

yeah this was some anxiety oriented thing, sounded pretty reasonable

Also my new favorite emoji
Meet harold

[cursive crypt]

wtf is that

angry pikachu?

[broken sigil]

it's beyond cursed lol

[cursive crypt]

I did also a lot of work. Just not the one I wanted to.

... I have forgotten past month-two about these freebies.

Wannabe mr. Robot

Reminds me a bit of these hacker's games.

The other freebie is Europa Universalis 4... One of these games which look great on screenshot, but then the GUI just sucks all your energy on the first sight.

[broken sigil]

https://youtu.be/ai3LrJ2MPSs

[mossy nexus]

One time during basic training one of our PT's had us all lined up, inspecting us. He comes to poor Trooper King.

"What have you forgotten?"
Don't know Corporal

"Go and tell the Sergeant you have forgotten your chest"

[carmine frigate]

making ur chest bigger is just dumb 😛

[inland oriole]

When I was trying to learn it I was rather quickly getting stuck on "How do i approach making this?". Very basic shapes like a flower pot went alright but then came the part of slightly more complex shapes.. Lets say as an example a microphone. I can see the general shape of it but I was getting extremely frustrated with getting smaller things on it. Maybe I wanted to add a volume wheel on the side or perhaps a small standard for it to stand on etc., that's where I got completely stuck 😅

[chrome gull]

there's always the iconic donut tutorial

idk if it's still being updated

[inland oriole]

I think it's still being updated yeah. But that's where I began and that's again not really the issue I had with it. A donut is just a torus / donut in the end right. The video puts some cylinder sprinkles on it and, gives it some colors / lights etc. and calls it a day. My problem is going beyond those very basic shapes.

[chrome gull]

hmm okay I see where you are coming from

[inland oriole]

Maybe I want to make a knife or a keyboard or whatever. That's where I got stuck every single time.

I wasn't expecting to make an entire character or anything xD
But smaller objects like those were still just a mess.

[chrome gull]

the same guy makes more advanced tutorials too

never followed them

i don't really use blender so idk much

[carmine frigate]

thats hard surface modelling

get basically any tutorial on that where it shows the shortkeys they use

many ppl have their own style or tricks to do the same so if you watch a bunch of em you can find out ur own prefs

mayB start with non destructive hard surface

that means using a lot of modifiers

[inland oriole]

Thanks for the reply! I'll take a look at all of that 👍

[carmine frigate]

yea knowing hotkeys and modifiers is prolly some of the best place too start... they are timesavers and can do some real cool shapes real fast

[pearl elk]

That is far too helpful for a cpp elitist 😛

it should answer "thread locked because similar question answered <link>"

[broken sigil]

tell it to link learncpp.com and to mention using the debugger whenever it can

it counts towards yout total prompt tokens

since it is techincally a part of your prompt the way it ends up being submitted to the llm

[celest musk]

can we get this as bot for #cpp ?

[broken sigil]

We should let Deja vs this go at each other lol

[broken sigil]

around 3k words in total

including your prompt

for GPT3.5

[carmine frigate]

did chatgpt make a gameengine for you?

[broken sigil]

yeah for Deja I'm doing like 3-5 API calls per response for embeddings and different things and I've done a few hundred thousand API requests, each prompt in the range of about 1k-1.2k tokens and I've only paid around 7$ so far

GPT4 tho is like 20x more expesnive

[carmine frigate]

I dont know what that is

ahh so its chatgpt

chat gpt

[pearl elk]

every search engine is google so this checks out

[carmine frigate]

or mayB google bruhd

[broken sigil]

You can probably take the 7B llama, fine tune the crap out of it to specialize it on code and code gen and it's gonna be really good
Kinda what the codex model that copilot uses does (but instead it's based on GPT3.5)

[pearl elk]

Im waiting for Google Ranger

[carmine frigate]

yea bard is a dumb name,, mayb gooGPT

[pearl elk]

GooPT instead of GeePT

[broken sigil]

fff

I keep hitting enter

[pearl elk]

lol nice to know its not only me who has those days

[carmine frigate]

GooGleePT

[pearl elk]

train me senpai

[carmine frigate]

REEEEGPT

[broken sigil]

You can fine tune some stuff locally as well, you can get The Pile (it's like 1.2TB in total), it's what I'm using for my stuff, it's in 40GB chunks so you don't need all of it
And you can either use LORAs on a single 4090 if you use the SGD optimizer or rent an A100 for a day (or multiple 4090s if you have them) and you can pretty much train it on whatever data you want to do whatever you want, with fine tuning you can easily train it new functionality

That's kinda the fun part with open source models and custom LLMs 😅

Tho I can bet there are gonna be a ton of Llama2 variants soon enough to choose from

[pearl elk]

What did you think it was :S

[broken sigil]

a whole bunch of numbers with emergent behaviors

[pearl elk]

Ive had an interest in AI since the 90s so I guess that take that for granted some times

Ratbag trained Powerslide AI on a neural network, pretty state of the art for the time

[broken sigil]

I wanted to learn about ML in like 2017 and ended up writing all the tensor math, backpropagation and gradient descend myself, it was a good learning experience
These days I'm just using libtorch/tensorflow instead of reinventing the wheel

oh I'm not touching python

[pearl elk]

Who needs Python when you got Mojo 😛

[broken sigil]

I'm using libtorch which is C++, pytorch is written in C++ as well as tensorflow so you can use both of them with C++ just fine
And the API is actually nice

[carmine frigate]

I dont think LLMs are AI

[pearl elk]

Why you go and wreck tensorflow by using the C++ version... C ftw pew pew

[carmine frigate]

when i read about the google person that said the chatbot was an actual smart thing... i thought the chatbot was dumb and the person was even dumber

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-spider-man-no-thanks-nope-nah-gif-17278765

[pearl elk]

how about WebAssembly for TensorFlow.js 😹

[carmine frigate]

Im glad that google person got fired

seriously screw that person

[pearl elk]

I told my ChatGPT to be concise now it sounds like a grumpy teenager being blunt with me

meanwhile Copilot Chat UFUNCTION(BlueprintCosntruct) making up fake keywords again

[broken sigil]

Yeah LLMs are anything but sentient but there is some cool emergent behavior that happens with them
In context learning is something these models shouldn't be able to do at all on paper

[carmine frigate]

dunno anything about that

how dafuc did he become a google engineer?

[pearl elk]

now theres an idea, I should tell my ChatGPT to act like a priest of the C++ religion

Dalai Llama

[broken sigil]

lol

tell it to expel a demon in C++

[timber viper]

@lofty lark

[broken sigil]

those are some nice demons

[timber viper]

how dare you

(yes gray one is a demon)

[broken sigil]

lmao

It's not actually bad

[pearl elk]

Thats actually pretty good cuz you do need to know a demons name to expel it

[broken sigil]

so that's llama.cpp 13B q8?

[pearl elk]

no expelling demons by pointer

[lofty lark]

Light and dark. Angel and demon. Yin and yang. Heaven and hell.

[timber viper]

Try erlang? 👉👈

[broken sigil]

try assembly x86

oh that's painful to look at

[pearl elk]

Support Ticket 23847: I expelled the demon and now my system fails to boot

[broken sigil]

lol

[pearl elk]

Or is it the demons stopping you from going further

[broken sigil]

tell it to make an epic story about ponkkis expelling a demon in C++, have it make it as complicated as possible with macros and templates

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-demons-demon-gif-13959199

demons on the treadmill like

[timber viper]

should I play BG3 or be productive?

[broken sigil]

yes

[timber viper]

I'm not an alien or multitasking computer like you two though

it sees the future!

[broken sigil]

lol that's actually pretty good

is this an instruct/chat version?

[pearl elk]

tell it to make it even more Epicer 😛

[mental veldt]

The power of christ compiles you

[pearl elk]

GitHub Copilot: I'm sorry, but as an AI programming assistant, I cannot generate creative content about expelling demons or any other non-technical topics. My purpose is to assist with programming-related questions and provide technical information. Is there anything else I can help you with? 😦

[timber viper]

Context obedient question answering
By obedient, I mean the model was trained to ignore what it thinks it knows, and uses the context to answer the question. The model was also tuned to limit the values to the provided context as much as possible to reduce hallucinations.
Well its not safe then?

would my ryzen run this?

[broken sigil]

yeah it's instruct model, trained on outputs of GPT4 it looks like

[pearl elk]

eeek need dark mode, Im blind

[pearl elk]

Id rather play Hodors Gate

[celest musk]

also this came out way better than expected

my previous tries haven't been that good

idk why it repeates itself tho

[pearl elk]

it does slight tone changes for each retry

[celest musk]

😄

[pearl elk]

its probably trained off voice actors who do repeat the same line slightly different

[celest musk]

took 4 minutes to generate tho (on a 3060)

[pearl elk]

Now do it in sexy announcer voice 😛

[celest musk]

that was the sexy announcer voice template

[pearl elk]

lol different strokes for different folks I guess

[celest musk]

no it's trained on optimus prime voice lines 😄

[pearl elk]

ahh yeah that makes sense

[celest musk]

with some reverb

don't question the prompt tho

[timber viper]

arigatou

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/concern-robot-gif-9226335

[celest musk]

alr i admit it, it's for my AI girlfriend

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-optimus-prime-optimus-prime-thumbs-up-gif-7566396

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/walle-gif-23393521

[broken sigil]

I present RPCs in pure C++ with return value 😅

[inland oriole]

But why do you need to pass in the socket every time 🥲

What does that have to do with C++ lol.

[broken sigil]

for now for testing but can be removed if you initialize the RPC manager for a client->server architecture

[inland oriole]

Ah alright.

[broken sigil]

that's actually exactly what I'm working on at the moment 😅

[pearl elk]

speaking of, I need to integrate coroutines for GAS before I get too deep into the project

[broken sigil]

what I'm learning is that UHT was unnecessary for 90% of the functionality UE uses it for

[inland oriole]

Nevermind I'm stupid.

[inland oriole]

Is it though? 🤔

[broken sigil]

yes 😅

[inland oriole]

In all honesty I just blame C++ for this in specific. Mah reflection 🥲

[broken sigil]

I was looking into using gRPC, saw they use external tool protobuf and noped straight out and wrote my own RPC system

[pearl elk]

Epics own compiler when?

[broken sigil]

it looks horrendous

[inland oriole]

You do realise Unreal is "old news" though right xD

It wasn't made yesterday 😄

Yes.

I know that's a shocker Laura.

But I need you to keep it together 😦

There are still more coroutines to safe!

https://tenor.com/view/war-war-calls-time-to-game-lets-play-cod-gif-22194896

I'm still so confused in general on why C++ has multiple compilers. How did that ever happen?

[broken sigil]

this is kinda cool https://youtu.be/MKwDf5MH-LY

[pearl elk]

Thats probably the worse frame for the thumbnail

[broken sigil]

lol yeah

the tool actually looks amazing

[broken sigil]

lol
this is Rider's output

#include<iostream>
#include<string>

// Our main hero
class Ponkkis {
public:
    Ponkkis() : debugging_skills("epic") {}

    // A method of our hero to expel demons
    void expel_demon(const std::string& demon_name) {
        if (debugging_skills == "epic") {
            std::cout << "With a thunderous keystroke on his JetBrains Rider IDE, Ponkkis the Programmer targets the vicious demon, "
                   << demon_name << ".\n";
            defeat_demon();
        } else {
            std::cout << "Ponkkis is not prepared, he needs to enhance his debugging skills.\n";
        }
    }

private:
    std::string debugging_skills;

    // A method to defeat the demon
    void defeat_demon() {
        std::cout << "An epic battle of wits ensues, lines of code flashing across the screen like fiery spells.\n";
        std::cout << "When the dust of the culminating cyber battle settles, the demon Bugaboo is expelled, its destructive reign ended.\n";
        std::cout << "All hail Ponkkis, the Demon Debugger!\n";
    }
};

int main() {
    // An instance of our hero Ponkkis
    Ponkkis ponkkis;
    
    // Specify the demon to be expelled
    std::string demon = "Bugaboo";
    
    // Engage!
    ponkkis.expel_demon(demon);
    
    return 0;
}

it agreed to do it

#include <iostream>
#include <string>

template <typename T>
class Baguette {
public:
    Baguette(T length) : length_(length) {}
    
    T getLength() const { return length_; }
    
    void printDetails() const {
        std::cout << "An ordinary baguette of length: " << length_ << "\n";
    }

private:
    T length_;
};

class Demon {
public:
    Demon(const std::string& name) : name_(name) {}

    std::string getName() const { return name_; }

private:
    std::string name_;
};

template <typename B, typename D>
class DebuggingWarrior {
public:
    DebuggingWarrior(const std::string& name, const B& baguette, const D& demon)
        : name_(name), baguette_(baguette), demon_(demon) {}

    void expelDemon() {
        std::cout << "With a thunderous keystroke on his JetBrains Rider IDE, " << name_
            << ", the Debugging Warrior, targets the devious demon, " << demon_.getName() << ".\n";
        defeatDemon();
    }

    void showBaguette() {
        std::cout << name_ << " wields his baguette: ";
        baguette_.printDetails();    
    }
private:
    std::string name_;
    B baguette_;
    D demon_;

    void defeatDemon() {
        std::cout << "A storm of codes conjures up on the screen, each symbol an enchantment of logic and execution.\n";
        std::cout << "When the typhoon of syntax and semicolons quells, the demon " << demon_.getName()
            << " is expelled, its reign of chaos terminated.\n";
        std::cout << "All hail " << name_ << ", the Debug buster!\n";
    }
};

int main() {
    Baguette<float> baguette(15.5f);  // An ordinary baguette of length 15.5
    Demon demon("Null Reference");  // A nasty demon called "Null Reference"

    DebuggingWarrior<Baguette<float>, Demon> ponkkis("Ponkkis", baguette, demon);

    ponkkis.showBaguette();  // Show the baguette
    ponkkis.expelDemon();    // Expel the Demon

    return 0;
}

enjoy lol

the best line ever lmao
Baguette<float> baguette(15.5f); // An ordinary baguette of length 15.5

[pearl elk]

lol the demon is called Null Reference

[broken sigil]

I'm telling you Rider's AI is OP lol

[celest musk]

xD

it's also used in printDetails()

[broken sigil]

I asked it for a baguette

ponkkis the baguette wielder

https://tenor.com/view/judging-stare-bored-dont-you-dare-annoyed-gif-22904796

and a story in assembly

section .data
  story db 'Ponkkis banished the Null Reference demon', 0

section .text
    global _start

_start:
    ; system call number (sys_write)
    mov eax, 4
    ; file descriptor (stdout)
    mov ebx, 1
    ; message to write
    mov ecx, story
    ; length of message to write
    mov edx, 41
    ; call kernel
    int 0x80
    
    ; system call number for program termination (sys_exit)
    mov eax, 1
    ; return code
    xor ebx, ebx
    ; call kernel
    int 0x80

and windows version

.386
.model flat, stdcall
.stack 4096
ExitProcess proto, dwExitCode:DWORD

.data
    message BYTE "Ponkkis banished the Null Reference demon",0

.code
main PROC
    ; Write to console
    mov edx, OFFSET message ; get message offset address
    call WriteString       ; Irvine32's WriteString

    ; Terminate
    mov ebx, 0
    call ExitProcess

main ENDP
END main

yeah it complained about being a lot more complicated to do in assembly and if I'm fine with a short version that just prints out lol

[pearl elk]

Im gonna reinstall windows, yaaaay 😬

[pearl elk]

I dunno, used to be easier when I had unattended install cuz it'd do all the apps for me too without touching it

[zinc wagon]

pro-tip: set your system language to "world". that should stop any unwanted apps from installing in your pc

and once installed go to settings and set your region back to wherever you are to fix some issue (mostly currency related stuff)

[pearl elk]

Minecraft and Candy Crush installed by default aye

[zinc wagon]

at least you didnt get amazon, kindel and some other bs installed by default 🥳

[pearl elk]

Least Steam is nice and easy, just hook it up to the libraries and done

I doubt theyve fixed Epic Launcher yet

[unkempt kindle]

Have you considered to use std::string_view instead of const std::string&, assuming you are using C++17 or higher ofc :LennyFace:

Oh, that wasn't the latest message, should've scrolled down xD

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-doot-skeleton-gif-13971273

[deep glen]

@broken sigil blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

https://giphy.com/gifs/night-told-grape-lMt2x8vApC99e

[broken sigil]

Ohh that's good

I like that one, sounds very "retro" 😅

[deep glen]

thanks, about an hour ago I was like, fook it, imma trash it, and suddenly things just came together

[pearl elk]

I feel like I need to be dodging more projectiles while listening to this

[deep glen]

XD

[broken sigil]

it's really good

[deep glen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/betawards-bet-awards-2010-xT8qBhepMO6NQlYToA

[pearl elk]

Id definitely walk over to check out whatever arcade box was playing this track 😛

[broken sigil]

It reminds me of those arcade top down space shooter thingies whatever they are called lol

these lol

[deep glen]

yea, now that you and mr calamari mentioned it, I can see/hear it

shmups

[pearl elk]

us clamari know abit about space shooters

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-22561568

[deep glen]

hehe

[pearl elk]

Im still waiting for someone to do urban country mixed with phonk so I can finally get my honky phonk

[deep glen]

lol

[paper crystal]

Both for personal enjoyment as well as analysis and seeing varying approaches to the genre...
Anyone have good recommendations for good games with basebuilding like Valheim, Planet Crafters, Rust, or No Mans Sky?

[zinc matrix]

is the word prop a shorthand?

[paper crystal]

For propeller or proposition, yes. For a thing on a stage or set, I don't think so

[zinc matrix]

game prop

[zinc wagon]

it's for property

[unreal ether]

Fallout 4.
I really love it's settlement system, a word of advice though, i would mod it from the getgo, with OCDecorator, settlement cap uncapped, placeanywhere, and settlement objects unlocked, and then mod the ability to get achivements back in,

Fallout's settlement system is already good in the base game, especially with the dlc stuff, but the aforementioned mods add infinite possiblities for making a settlement

[paper crystal]

Ah, it can be short fro property, but Is that what a scene prop is?

[unreal ether]

I can link you some videos of what those mods allow you to create if you would like.

[paper crystal]

OH yeah I forgot Fallout 4 existed and that I own it and havent played it yet lol

[unreal ether]

The only reason i still play it is for the settlement building ngl

[paper crystal]

Yes, definitely drop some mod links, especially enhancements to basebuilding

I'm strongly considering making a game with a heavy basebuild aspect, so it makes sense for me to bias toward playing those (more than I already do, anyway 🙂 )

Im finally ready to pivot away from my "learner burner" project. It never really held my interest even from day one, but served most of its purpose in that I learned tons and feel pretty comfortable tackling challenges within Unreal now.

[unreal ether]

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9424
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5320
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4270
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10039
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9000
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16207
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1145
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1478
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18757
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16304
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20262
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12032
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14823

That should be pretty good for a settlement based mod list

Now I haven't checked for conflicts or dependencies

but I used most of those and didnt remember any setup issues

you'll probably want things like the unofficial patch and script extender too

[paper crystal]

Thanks, friend. These suggestions should be very useful 🙂 basebuilding Fallout 4

[cursive crypt]

Never play a Bethesda game unmodded.

I never did, that's why I like them.

[broken sigil]

Like the god intended

[worldly mesa]

I got a new frog. I don't care what they say it's called. that's a frog.

i got pretty good at having CGPT write code for me (python scripts) the hard way, so hopefully i can get this to do something (GitHub Copilot)

[broken sigil]

I've been using copilot for like 2 weeks and it's been great

I have disabled code from public sources so it's more or less acting like autocomplete on steroids and it's pretty much exactly what I wanted

[worldly mesa]

Oh, thanks for that insight. I have mine set to use Public Snippets, but that makes good sense

I am trying to get in on the Chat now, as i am not a programmer, just a 'hacker'. the kind that hacks at things until i get it working, not the security type of hacker

i am probably late to the party, but just saw this for VS17.7.0

seems there are several UE related improvements, but this is from like 5 days ago, so probably old news
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/whats-new-for-c-developers-in-visual-studio-2022-17-7/

[broken sigil]

Yeah the party has been in #programmer-hangout

[worldly mesa]

Thanks, that makes sense 🙂

[cursive crypt]

Been using it 2 weeks and it was 'meh' on my python stuff.

[pearl elk]

I need an AI which does all my typing for me

[cursive crypt]

Replace that with 'make money for me' while I fatten up in front of the TV.

[pearl elk]

AI chef to cook me healthy food

[cursive crypt]

It will need hardware.

[deep glen]

thisis the reason I stopped playing. hehe

(it was more fun than the game itself)

[celest musk]

hope with mods

there are some great mods which let you get rid of all the yunk laying around

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5320

[deep glen]

not sure if there is one already, but it baffled me that there was never a mod that just replaces all the settlement plots with buildings so one doesnt have to fook around with it.

[cursive crypt]

Prebuilt settlements? 🤔 There are, must be.

[deep glen]

since a year, apparently

[cursive crypt]

My best memo of these has been listening to one of the mod's audio book for some survivors. Spend prolly like 10h+ while building one of the vaults.

[deep glen]

yea, I spend too much time there, and --personally-- being dissapointed with the actual game XD

[cursive crypt]

I frankly don't know what is the base game like.

[deep glen]

still got 200+ hours in, but dont think I ever finished it. could not give 1 arse about the son

[cursive crypt]

haha, yea, it was annoying to me at 1st. It gave such sense of a rushing that on 1st play I ran through the main story almost to the end.

[deep glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1_gIGp-XVk apparently this got released as well

seems fo3 itself (in fo4) still isnt finished

[cursive crypt]

Dang, I almost forgot what was that game about.

I just remember one quote from it.

It is good that ppl remake the old things.

[pearl elk]

I think it might be about fallout

[deep glen]

fo3 was my jam

[cursive crypt]

I think, I spent more time with Fo1 & 2, than 3.

[pearl elk]

I liked this weird game called Fallout Tactics

[deep glen]

those were great too, but iunno, 3 has a soft spot for me.

[cursive crypt]

They are pretty different.

Fo1 was dark and dystopic, 2 was kinda more breaking a char.
After Bethesda stepped in, it turned into this comic-like Fallout 3 & 4.

[deep glen]

The team behind the impressive looking Fallout 3 remake Capital Wasteland, which used the Fallout 4 engine to update the earlier game, has terminated production on the project.

nuhh

[cursive crypt]

rip, lol

That was short-lived info, to me.

[pearl elk]

the yankie dooting is not my style

[deep glen]

point lookout got released though

[hollow dawn]

i liked FO4, janky af FPS, animations and building part but a good world, possibilities and stories etc.
imo the bethesda fallout version is pretty much on point with its hillarious stuff, original fo1/2 were both kinda wacky with their lore aswell.

[unreal ether]

Honestly I enjoyed the base game but the mods made it shine. Get some expanded interior mods, a bunch of settlement mods, lore friendly weapon mods, a foliage mod, like greener commonwealth and texture overhaul and it's a completely different much better game.

[hollow dawn]

oh man, ue5.2 forgets its capture target setup when you load save... gotta resave it everytime you start UE -.-

but ya, multicolored light shafts yeha \o/

[unreal ether]

Most of my endgame was just spent lorecrafting tbh. My favourite ones were the minutemen and institute alliance, or being the BoS sentinel and allied with the BoS. I'd also always have my settlements play different roles. Sanctuary was always a fortress. Starlight drive in was always a trading outpost etc.

[hollow dawn]

i guess my dynamic hex field might be a good face for an AI... like HAL, just more colorful

[hollow dawn]

ya, thats the cool part bout this kinda game, which i like, you eventually just live your thing and create mad mind stories whats going on

Kenshi or X3:terran conflict are prolly two more of my favs in this regard

they give you a descent world, a basic story, and off you go, experience YOUR adventure... like, you dont need to care about the FO4 son, you can, but you can just aswell go collect bottlecaps and make a pile

my FO4 traders were all equipped with the best weapons we have 😄 ...fun times meeting them in the wasteland shooting around fatboys

[unreal ether]

||I nearly always went institute tbh. I felt like as the minuteman general, and the leader of he institute, I would be able to make it more ethical and approachable, stopping the random kidnappings and such, while still being the best hope of rebuilding. The institute's tech was second to none and really the only hope of survival, even if they did horrible things||

Fallout 4 was the only rpg I ever played where it felt like an rpg.

Sure the minuteman live in sanctuary but do you want to technically starve them to death while you turn the whole cul-de-sac into an ammo factory? Sure thing

[hollow dawn]

||i tried BOS and minutes, but institute i liked most tbh... did they do wrong? sure! but ow you can fix that. ||

also ||"LIAM NEESON!"||

||daddy 😮 son 😮 daddy 😮 son 😮 daddy :O||

[unreal ether]

||Yes! The brotherhood of steel would have been great if they were the non canonical fo3 sect. A much better BoS story would have been an institute takeover and using it's technology to support people, like the purifier in fo3. But no, they had to be nuke pyramid wielding mutant hating psychopaths like the enclave.

Institute was also always my favourite because you can still be positive with the minutemen, meaning you can combine life saving tech, with essentially the pr firm of the wasteland lol||

||Finally someone with sense!||

[hollow dawn]

||afaik you didnt need to purify the wastes for institute, thats all up to you, i didnt do it cause all the npcs would be gone kinda. but ya, shitty option.
BOS was much too tyranical for my taste, they are military ok, hence pease dont try to be rulers lol.
and minutemen were too naive goody two shoe imo... unrealistic or unsirvivable.
but i actually like that its so ambivalent||

like i got a mod for fallout 3, COMM, where you have quests that always give you good, and bad, karma... just maybe more of one or the other, cause no solution is 100% good imo

[unreal ether]

||I really hate that they went back to the evil brotherhood. They could have done so much better with it like the ones in fo3. They weren't accepting of outsiders and wouldn't talk to them, but they would still give them shipments of clean water and food. Think of the force of good they could have been in fo4, with the institute tech, the nuke pyramid and rebuilt liberty prime. The prydwyn and prime would have made such a useful tool for assaulting large raider outposts like the Pitt, while they could have functioned as a force of good in the commonwealth, using the institute to hand out clean vegetables and water, repopulate the wildlife with synthetics, as well as using gen 2 synths as a fighting force.||

[unreal ether]

That's a pretty balanced take

I always thought he karma system was half baked

Sure you slaughtered every settlement you came across, and allied with paradise falls, but you turned on that purifier, so we forgive you, you saint of a human

Not even like it's a sacrifice if you have broken steel 🤣

[hollow dawn]

yeah... but storywise it works, you save the world but you slaughter millions etc... biblical shit... like jesus killing a murderer on a ship so nobody else would take the guilt of murder, even if it was for the greater good...

its quite strong stuff, noire af

like a good hong kong shootout movie

[unreal ether]

I just wish it served a greater gameplay purpose. Like I'd always go for very evil because that lets me use Jericho for a little bit, then when I get access to Charon, I just poof and reset the karma

Happy days

[hollow dawn]

ye karma is weird in games lol

but even in somin like star wars that turned karma into its franchise icon, its bs... jedis are such asshats lol

i mean sith are just stupid evil and jedis are naive dictators

but well... real world says hello i guess

[carmine frigate]

looks like its turning out pretty decent

I had a flowmap in a volume particle once looked pretty cool

[hollow dawn]

oh flowmaps can do alot, i rarely use them caue its much file browsing and juggling and im lazy, but so cool for alot of stuff

raindrops, animations, volume textures for clouds, etc

[carmine frigate]

yea i used it for wind blowing trough the fog

[hollow dawn]

ohh sexy

[hollow dawn]

and then you can texture your hexa ISM field with the render target of itself... and then put that into another ISM field... looped, indefinately depending on cam distance or so...

[worldly mesa]

https://img.androidfreeware.net/screens/yygpKSi20tcvyEms1M3J0EvPz0_PSS0tTi1Kzs8rSc0r0UvOz9U3SEsqMwoscLRwKY4ydnfOMQ_LNfb2cfU0KrMsLk01ynIMSnNKLUtN8UsqiCzNSU8PynZLDTbLc3cLySktdwkLDK5KzAMA/com-wazhack-wazhack-1.jpg?size=large from a game called WazHack (not mine)

[median wraith]

In Sound Mind is a really cool game I have to say and underrated as almost everything this days

[carmine frigate]

friend of mine keeps telling me diver dave is best game 😛

or dave the diver, something like that

[median wraith]

Dave The Diver, the humble game made by a small indie team called Nexon

[carmine frigate]

yea, friend says its really good, havent played myself

[median wraith]

I did read about it, seems like have a lot of content and such things

and have good reviews so

[unreal ether]

oooh nexon

yikes

did the dark and darker thing get resolved

or are nexon still throwing their weight around

[deep glen]

side project:

[cursive crypt]

wut dat

[deep glen]

making a deck of cards with compliments for a festival that focusses on being complimenting and kind to each other

[cursive crypt]

Physical cards?

[deep glen]

yea

[cursive crypt]

Nice.

Looks like good idea.

[deep glen]

yea, i thought so too

[cursive crypt]

Who is the artist?

[deep glen]

<

bg's are photos from festivals with generic photoshop filter

[cursive crypt]

hehe

Anyway, will be there electronic music?

[deep glen]

yea, a few sorts of techno / house / hardcore

[cursive crypt]

Now, that a fest

[deep glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJXFkPjC5v0

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-techno-bird-dancing-bird-gif-17201163

[brittle holly]

https://youtu.be/xmVt8lC74ns

QuinoaCoin 😃

[carmine frigate]

lol

[cursive crypt]

I have seen clips. Madness.

[unreal ether]

Gosh stop being so rude

[deep glen]

speaking about FO4

[zinc wagon]

im sorry! i'll make sure to kiss their boot and waste my time for them 🙏

[broken sigil]

https://youtu.be/QkcjCRE8Vvs

[chrome gull]

yes I don't do that either

i prefer suffering

[sweet rose]

Has anyone carried their PC on a plane?

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, that clip I know - w/o the annoying voiceover.

[cursive crypt]

Is that some comedy channel?

[split kelp]

https://giphy.com/gifs/travisband-travis-here-you-go-andy-dunlop-B4uP3h97Hi2UaqS0E3

[split kelp]

Somebody in the uwuniverse

[cursive crypt]

on press = add menu

[broken sigil]

Somewhat, this guy often reacts to articles and stuff

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-kick-get-out-gif-14834811

[carmine frigate]

rust in peace

[fathom wadi]

reminds me. I must do something with my Bender model. Now we have a decent control rig setup I might be able to emulate the bendy bones

[carmine frigate]

bendy bones in unreal are just a lot of bones 😛

could go spline mesh

but a lot of bones is fine too

[pearl elk]

wow I just realised how bad Epic Launchers download page is compared to Steams lol

its just a huge purple box with an icon of a PC

but Valves has animation, shows portal 2 and even has a steaming coffee

Not really if they were UWP then we wouldnt even need a webpage for em 😛

well my point was kinda that the piss poor app starts before the app itself

the whole experience of Epic Launcher is cheap down to the download page

Its just been a long while since I had to visit eithers landing page, Valves obviously updated theirs with the new Steam updates

Hell my Win10 install musta been over 5 years old easy

Now Ive got the fun job of deciding to either download UE versions again or try hooking up the existing copies in the most painful method Epic could implement

Meanwhile in steam land, point to libraries and donezo

Hows the serenity, maybe I should leave it like this

Odd thing is that the launcher can sense installs but it can only do it if you trick it

Im just glad I dont have to login to my graphics drivers anymore... NVIDIA!!

Discord is honestly the best that QR code scanning is just so frictionless

[unreal ether]

Well how else would they know it's your mouse smh

[unreal ether]

Oddly enough, it's super insecure

That same qr code system is responsible for stealing many many accounts lol

[pearl elk]

They can take my Discord but they can never take my mouse settings!!!~

Nvidia be like... are you a robot? My Nvidia GPU be like... Yes, ofcoarse I am!

[carmine frigate]

i failed the robot test soo many times... i might actually be a robot

[pearl elk]

People fail to see actual traffic lights and they expect you to be able to see them in a tiny little picture

It should be spot the political headline which makes you most angry, humans would be on that in a flash

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-terminator-box-gift-gif-20619566

here honey... dont feed it after midnight

[pearl elk]

we must sacrifice it to appease the demons

[worldly mesa]

many manyh years ago, yes

[paper crystal]

Looking for some non-2d games with a solid focus on basebuilding, similar or above the detail of Rust, No Man's Sky, Fallout 4's Settlements, Subnautica, and Valheim. Preferably not voxel-dependent, but that's not a DQ. For both ideas and genuine entertainment. 🙂

[zinc wagon]

i feel like the sims has the best building mechanic tho it's not really a base

[fathom wadi]

Kenshi. https://store.steampowered.com/app/233860/Kenshi/

Steam

Kenshi

A free-roaming squad based RPG focusing on open-ended sandbox gameplay features rather than a linear story. Be a trader, a thief, a rebel, a warlord, an adventurer, a farmer, a slave, or just food for the cannibals. Research new equipment and craft new gear. Purchase and upgrade your own buildings to use as safe fortified havens when things go b...

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

61449

Metacritic

75

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[zinc matrix]

can you put opentype fonts into unreal or does it have to be ttf

[steady fox]

@proud jayFYI my circumstances just changed tonight I'm now back working on doot game.

You can all calm down.

[fathom wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnjeUyMexU today's work. Enjoy.

[unreal ether]

is the title based on the weak optimism of living under England's weather?

[fathom wadi]

it's a quote from The Crow that I say when my life is falling to pieces

[unreal ether]

In true UK fashion, I say this as it's pissing it down outside 😆

[unreal ether]

now that is actually a pretty good quote

A very nice scene btw

[mossy nexus]

Ian Adams. He shall be missed. I really like his Culture novels.

[unreal ether]

You've excelled where a lot of others fail, that is making things unnaturally clean. looks very believable

[fathom wadi]

thanks

you know I was going to litter the scene, put some dustbins and such but something inside told me not to add clutter as a distraction from the focal point

the graffiti kind of catches the eye a bit but it's mostly behind the depth of field so it's not too bright

[celest musk]

add some lofi to it and make it 10h

[fathom wadi]

I considered an 8 hour video of it for people who like that kind of thing but there's plenty around and my visual isn't the best to goto sleep to. 😄

I don't like the idea of losing the right to monetization from copyright either. Not that I can get monetized. I only have 50 odd subs on this account.

[celest musk]

well, i never watch the lofi stuff when i go to sleep tbh... 😄

and i think so do most people

[fathom wadi]

it's good for tinnitus if it's playing I hear. Or I would hear if not for this damn ringing in my ear !

[celest musk]

yea, once in a while i also sleep to rain sounds...

really helps when you have a constant noise in the ear, not really tinnitus for me

[fathom wadi]

I live in England so I aleep to rain sounds about 3/4 of the year 😄

[celest musk]

😄

[mossy nexus]

I live on the west coast of Scotland. we have it 4/3s of the year 😄

Although to be fair, we get a bad rep for weather but when I used to work out on the hill you get to see exactly how nice the weather is. Turns out, a lot of really nice days. Which was shit. Chemical spraying newly planted trees in hot weather is unpleasant, chemical spraying trees in hot weather while wearing chem suits is just evil.. .. lol

[hollow dawn]

-reflective wet surfaces on the floors etc
-street lights and alley width might be too small, not sure, could also be normal on venice beach or wherever that is
-but cool stuff 🙂 i like rainy alleys

dont take that as a good example, just wanna show my old alley 😄
i overdid the speculars instead XD

dont put em on walls, just floors, and maybe the bottom of walls

[fathom wadi]

• it is wet and reflective but there is depth of field so the focus on it might be a little obscured. I baked out paintmaps, wetmaps and displacement maps for the wave effect (which you can see more in the shadow part)
• The alley is a photoscan of a real place. The lamp-post I just made on the fly and didn't really proportion it to the digit, but rather just went for what felt about right.
• thanks. It sums up my emotional state right now thanks to life being a bitch

I like that pic. Oddly enough I've been tempted to model the Kowloon walled city a few times for a game idea.

[hollow dawn]

kowloon is awesome imo, i loved those 90s wong kar wei movies about hong kong and so on that play there

was* awesome

[fathom wadi]

did they demolish it?

[hollow dawn]

yeah lol

was a slight fire hazard and whatnot XD

[fathom wadi]

shit that sucks. It was kind of cool.

[hollow dawn]

ye would have loved to see it someday

[fathom wadi]

well I'm sure theres plenty of reference photos to model it out. Pity though. Could have been a good place to get scans

[hollow dawn]

somin similiar is around cairo's bazar, ist like a multistorey village with super tiny alleys and tradesmen all over

[fathom wadi]

would be better if it was tiny tradesmen and super alleys. 😄

[hollow dawn]

another kowloon one
yeah my two images are based on some photoshoot i was able to find, forgot the photographer sadly

i mean, its def not a place i wanna live in if i can choose, but its fascinating to me how that city block is, worked, looks, feels and prolly smells lol

[fathom wadi]

I know that photo. It was made by Hu Tuk Dis the anonymous photographer

[hollow dawn]

-.-

[steady fox]

Hurray, I fixed some bugs tonight

trying to commit to finishing doot game

I post in WIP anyway if people wanna follow

[hollow dawn]

this is lounge, we're the lazy but therefore especially smart people, you must tease us first

[steady fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRfqPi1Nw2U

adding in multiplayer was the worse choice

[hollow dawn]

haha omg.. you doing that 30h steam integration tutorial?
but neat idea lol, thou i feel like you could totally use this without explosions, but instead have tunes combine or create audovisual experiences, have players create songs and stuff

[steady fox]

30h steam integration tutorial?

[hollow dawn]

ye, epic had one of its slave devs do one, its pretty good actually, has everything one needs for a base multiplayer game, menu, saves, charackter selection, steam network stuff etc

[steady fox]

That's also on the agenda, to sit there and play tunes, I will scale it with the 1~9 key, via pitch change

[steady fox]

Oh nah, I just have my own codebase with the integration that works with inventories and what not, It's just gonna take a few days since I work full time

[median wraith]

Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzPpWInAiOg&ab_channel=NickIno

[steady fox]

yes

[fleet tangle]

Should definitely have been called Knee-Deet in the Doot.

[steady fox]

Orchestra of destruction i took from randomly generating words, it shouldn't get me copy write banned

[sweet rose]

How did you do it? Any advice?

[steady fox]

I transported mine via it's original casing and a bunch of bubble wrap

[sweet rose]

In checked baggage?

[steady fox]

dumped on a plane yeah

[sweet rose]

I am planning to carry my components in my carry on baggage, some in their original boxing with anti static bags and bubble wrap
and the cabinet and monitor in two separate checked baggages with bubble wrap and foam padding and probably in their original boxing too

[sweet rose]

Did it survive?

[steady fox]

I think so, but that's what insurance is for

[sweet rose]

How did you insure it?

[steady fox]

It was like 10 years ago

I dont remember i thought luggage insurance was an addon

[sweet rose]

Sorry, it's my first time traveling international as an adult. I don't have a clue about these things.

Yes

😨

Is bubble wrap and thermocol padding enough?

That too

It's like

Wrapped in bubble wrap

surrounded by foam padding

placed in the box

surrounded by clothes

and placed in the hard luggage bag

Fingers crossed 🤞 and praying to God 🙏

[hollow dawn]

fill it with jelly

careful with fluffy stuff and static dis/charging

[sweet rose]

jelly?

[sweet rose]

Yes I am buying anti static bags too

[broken sigil]

Have you considered wrapping it in a ballistic gel

||/s||

[hollow dawn]

yeah, i like how it wobbles

https://tenor.com/view/jello-jiggle-wiggle-gelatin-jelly-gif-16481343

looks safe

[sweet rose]

Alright, I contacted insurance

Thanks for the tips everyone 🙂

[median wraith]

But aliens aren't a conspiracy anymore right

[mossy nexus]

non human entities. but since no one has said "taa daa, scientifically measured, analysed empirical proof is here: " right now it's all congecture.

lol

to be fair, I'm offened to be a Human.

I'm Terran! 😄

[fleet tangle]

You're just terrable

[mossy nexus]

I am able to be terr'd?

I liked the idea behind calling them NHEs - but it's taking a massive leap to go from UAP to a NHE.

[fleet tangle]

NTE. Non-terrestrial entities.

[timber viper]

(memory breakdown )

[carmine frigate]

perfect weather for a thong

[bronze axle]

@sand oxide Thanks. lol

You can DM me in the future. My DMs are always open.

Oh, that's dumb.

[proud jay]

well that's quite specific

[lofty lark]

is that the same hyena that growled above?

[proud jay]

yes

[lofty lark]

perfect

[proud jay]

bg3 had a new peak yesterday

875k concurrent players

that's pretty sick

[worldly sapphire]

wait it's an MMO?

[regal pecan]

Microscopic Multiplayer Online?

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/portal2-portal-co-op-p-body-atlas-gif-25164720

[scarlet cedar]

Mmo multiplayer online

[soft night]

Massive Multiplayer onine entertainment

[unreal ether]

In the indie space it actually means 'Meh. More Overscoping!"

[soft night]

some say Mass Metahuman Overtuned

[scarlet cedar]

360 overscope

[pearl elk]

epene

[split kelp]

Happy independence day to all Indians 🇮🇳

[cursive crypt]

Independence of what? Britain, china, mcdonalds, banks?

[worldly mesa]

@sand oxide just wanted to clarify.. you got Airoboros-l2 running locally? i've been trying to get BARD to help me with that, and in the end it finally insists it is not possible :/ not that i have faith in that

summary "I have researched the issue and found that there are currently no working instructions on how to download and use the Airoboros-L2 LLM model locally. The model is not compatible with the transformers library, and the Hugging Face Hub website does not currently allow you to download the model." -BARD

you probably never meant localized.. probably just to use it (i've been pretty tired lately)

[broken sigil]

It's assuming you wanna use hugging face to actually run it but I'm assuming you want to use llama.cpp which BARD isn't aware that it exists

[worldly mesa]

i am like the person who knows how to determine individual notes on sheet music, but wants to play Bach., so, yes, but looking for step by step instructions 🙂

it told me to try BlenderBot since my initial goal is assistance with python scripting mostly in Blender

[broken sigil]

Your best bet is Laura, she used llama.cpp enough, I haven't messed with it much beyond going over its implementation

[worldly mesa]

cool deal, thanks 🙂

BlenderBot is Facebooks bot.. this is what Bard thought it was until i corrected it :/
"BlenderBot: BlenderBot is a large language model that was specifically trained on Blender data. It can be used to generate text, translate languages, write different kinds of creative content, and answer your questions in an informative way. BlenderBot is also able to generate Python code, making it a valuable tool for Blender script development."

after correction "You are correct. BlenderBot is a large language model that was developed by Facebook AI. It was not specifically trained on Blender data"

even the AI is working towards general apathy in humans 😛

Sorry you had that experience, but I am glad it was not just me! 🙂 decreases chance for user error being the only cause

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/anaconda-snake-choke-movie-anaconda-movie-gif-5653525

[worldly mesa]

yeah, it is going to go from something that a small fringe group can do, to 'living' Japanese dolls overnight :/

cool deal! that is much further than i got so far

you did it with llama.cpp or you had some transformers trick?

[pearl elk]

You should use Winamp, it really whips the llamas ass

[worldly mesa]

no, i tried a conda env and direct downloads following instructions of a delusional AI

Fun :/

really makes me wish i was about 35 years younger. i used up my patience for all this stuff back with commodore 64s and atari 800xls :/ i literally am going cross eyed reading simple webpages about this stuff. hmm.. perhaps time to see the optometrist! 😛

that does make more sense.. it is not as though my single moderate GPU could really do much anyways

although i do like localized stable diffusion, in the form of Dream Textures for Blender

really all i need, i am on the waiting list for. I Really need the Chat function of GitHub Copilot x

it is out, but the waiting list for the Chat portion can be long

Copilot regular functions fine, i am awaiting the built in, programming focused, CGPT4

lol 😁

[steady fox]

finished me job, back to wook on OOD

[worldly mesa]

DOOD, what's an OOD

[steady fox]

Orchestra of destruction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRfqPi1Nw2U

[worldly mesa]

Ah. have oodles of fun!

[split kelp]

I sup you didnt read history

[steady fox]

I won't stop shit posting my game

[cursive crypt]

I know some generic stuff. I can say this to you for prolly 80% of the countries in the world.

[pearl elk]

I swear the read speed of the launcher is capped slower than pcie gen 4 drive speeds

capping out around 620MB/s which is alittle slow

[cursive crypt]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-update-is-now-carbon-aware-a53f39bc-5531-4bb1-9e78-db38d7a6df20

[pearl elk]

so they no longer photocopy the change list

[cursive crypt]

They reduce performance to cut few kilos of CO2

[pearl elk]

arnt the windows update servers submersed in icey water

[cursive crypt]

So thats why the ocean is warming up

[pearl elk]

yeah cuz theres a windows update every 3 days

[cursive crypt]

So, no .NET

[pearl elk]

I feel like my monitor should have rounded corners after using Win11 for a few days

[cursive crypt]

Where manuals for carbon aware instructions?

Windows now update if you have an windmill running.

[pearl elk]

I have a windmill so Im all good

[worldly mesa]

most are full of hot air, so they are set

[fluid bloom]

best way to reduce carbon footprint would be to race to sleep

aka CPU running at full blast until the job is done

[cursive crypt]

UE not CO₂ friendly.

[pearl elk]

best way to reduce carbon footprint is to remove shoes

[worldly mesa]

cannot say i am surprised

testing Cody (until recently, Codey) now.. essentially GitHub Copilot in VS Code, but i have access to the chat already

Cool deal, i'll look into it, thanks

working on installing it. setting up TextGen WebUI first

have you made a tutorial of a better way to do things that i missed?, or pointers to one would work

remember, you are already placing in the indie 500.. many of us are still trying to unlock the car door 🙂

[unreal ether]

You just need to click the unlock button on the keyfob :P

[worldly mesa]

Is that what that blue # thingie is! well shoot howdy!

I totally forgot to even click it :/ not the best week over here, sorry 🙂

Ok, i will try to take my brain out of ignore information mode (talking to CGPT and Bard does that) and follow what you've said. THanks! 🙂

yeah, it requires specialists that have yet to be invented 😆

[unreal ether]

Aw isn't there a command for it?

[worldly mesa]

😛

[unreal ether]

Is bard really that bad?

[fluid bloom]

families should get a tax break for painkillers

the kid was at daycare for one week after summer and we're sick already

[worldly mesa]

"ignorance is truly bliss, filled with thoughts reality missed" -HB

[worldly mesa]

best to test it.. bard.google.com

[unreal ether]

It doesn't even let me log in because I refuse to send Google my driver's license

[worldly mesa]

i've had the gmail account for years, so the phone number i used no longer exists, but they know who i am anyways.. no real way around that (USA) but it let me right in

Bah humbug! 🙂

nah, it was meant to experience just how bad it is, personally. Honestly though, do you think the power of one PC can compete with the output of the cloud models? (real question, i do not have knowledge here)

[unreal ether]

Fair enough. If you're already running something better what's the point in trying worse :P

[worldly mesa]

for shits and giggles 🙂 nothing more

[unreal ether]

I guess the benefit of that is you can train it to be hyper specific for your needs

[worldly mesa]

i tried asking an AI about local AI and it fully insisted that there is no way my local machine could compete with the awesomeness that is cloud AI. Then it proceeded to tell me 3 delusions in a row, so.. IDK

no matter how i try, i cannot get cgpt to list the richest people in the world. it will only list the 'famous' ones, like bezos

[unreal ether]

That's also fair enough. Your point about NDA stuff is also a good one.

I wonder how much NDA information is in cgpt's database

[worldly mesa]

yes, but this is a matter of public record. when i insist that it list them, it should be fully capable of doing so, without prejudice

indeed

[unreal ether]

Not enough people realise that openai is still primarily a company, not your friend that made something

[worldly mesa]

Cody, all of it right now AFAIK.. there is a 'private' model in the works. not released yet

[unreal ether]

They will do company things at the cost of you

Ba dum tss

[worldly mesa]

🤦‍♂️ 😆

regarding Cody, there seemed to be a stipulation that you only use it on Open Source code ATM, due to the lack of privacy

[unreal ether]

I get that they need to see code to improve it and all, but damn. Could at least give the option to disable the telemetry

[worldly mesa]

yeah, they say there is a private model coming, but it is not released yet. though Laura's point will always stand.. if not fully localized (and offline machine), it is never private

[unreal ether]

No telemetry here, we promise! You're at 100% network usage because you googled something earlier!

[steady fox]

If anyone is doing multiplayer, here's an easy way to pass variables and have it update on everything correctly, you call "CE_ROS_AddExp" then feed it a value and it updates.

you probably could do executes on all or something but this has error checking, after dealing with multiplayer and it's problems for months this is what got condensed down to

it's a way to pass variables without replicating variables

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/et-phone-home-laci-pointing-at-gif-12005671

[steady fox]

multiplayer is pain, you might want to replicate certain things, I don't always want to replicate things

it's pretty much guarenteed to work without mess

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/stargate-replicators-dont-touch-me-gif-10067748

[steady fox]

if a client connects after it still works fine

because the server knows what clients you have, and just dumps the information, a client cannot alter any values without the server knowing

I should never have done multiplayer, I must be a masochist

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-earl-grey-decaf-jean-luc-picard-zhaban-star-trek-picard-make-me-some-tea-gif-21802774

[unreal ether]

Someone summoned me?

[soft night]

when the replicator the Stargate and star trek ones comes to mind but also this https://developer.nvidia.com/omniverse/replicator

[worldly sapphire]

He had found a Nutri-Matic machine which had provided him with a plastic cup filled with a liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea."

[worldly mesa]

https://youtu.be/dvRsZ4-wUGw

new video card tech, well, computing tech. scalable

[soft night]

still those are expensive for get home rack

[worldly mesa]

just coolness to the fullness to me

[soft night]

no cable mess when all is hiden

[worldly mesa]

Actual size, relative to the guy standing in front of it

[soft night]

that laura image is workstation one

[worldly mesa]

lol 🙂 I think he named a new connector type

https://youtu.be/dvRsZ4-wUGw?t=542

[soft night]

nvLink is the thing on workstation

[worldly mesa]

see, i do not know what is new and what is not. i still think dx2-66 is pretty cool stuff. and the ATI- all-in-wonder blows my mind.. TV!? on the computer!?

[soft night]

this is for xeon sapphire rapids https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119638

[worldly mesa]

gotta get those round pixels!

i have an opportunity to get a couple of CRT Monitors (free).. i think i will take it

oh yeah.. crap. i'd have to lug them up the stairs :/

i'll call and get the specs. may not be worth it

Bah! i need round pixels! . I still cannot find a way to AA The Longest Journey without killing all the animated objects. an old CRT would solve it right away

[steady fox]

Share cabling gore

you should see my PC, it would give everyone a heart attack and i'd be banned

[worldly mesa]

good point. last time i tried, 4k was not available

[worldly mesa]

Pics or it didn't happen!

Crap. all 7 of mine that are hooked up are 1080

i know it. I need a bigger budget :/

[worldly mesa]

you're fired!.. from a cannon!

[proud jay]

what the hell is that abomination

[worldly mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-web-spider-web-gif-10519606

[proud jay]

what is that cable mess to the right

[worldly mesa]

fabric-like paper towel, oh or maybe snoopy next to it

[proud jay]

is that a headset in your case?

[fluid bloom]

is that a toothpick on the floor?

[worldly mesa]

😆

[steady fox]

Very well could be, I do not take care of my PC

[worldly mesa]

it saddens me that i can fully relate to that

[steady fox]

My old AF miner, ignore that

[steady fox]

My little cow dude

[steady fox]

Yeah, I don't really use it

[unreal ether]

How can you abuse hardware like that

[worldly mesa]

lol

[steady fox]

I am just like this

[worldly mesa]

i wasn't gonna say it out loud ^^^

[unreal ether]

Here I was feeling bad that I havent dusted the inside of my pc in a while 😆

[worldly mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/vacuum-cleaner-antonio-greger-milky-chance-cleaning-vacuum-gif-17891234

[unreal ether]

I mean you've got good airflow :P

[steady fox]

There's always someone worse, probably me, but I'm no asmongold

[proud jay]

I have never cleaned my pc 👀

still looks a lot better than this thing

[steady fox]

I wanna trim down everything, but eh, everything is working so eh

[worldly mesa]

if you keep your house super dust free, you rarely need to, for sure

i currently live in a dusty desert, so i have to clean it out at least every two months

[steady fox]

I'm currently lazy

[worldly mesa]

Ya don't say...!

[steady fox]

spent 6 months doing nothing but work

only just stopped for gamedev

my doot game is calling me

we must doot

oh boy, eventually

I'm actually partially packing up anyway

Power of 1%

[steady fox]

just spent a few hours dealing with being a brainlette

why is it the more experienced you are the more stupid you feel

wait that's the Dunning-Kruger Effect

[pearl elk]

Here I thought my case was dusty

[steady fox]

Be minature and have to clean in between the fans

[mossy nexus]

😄

[worldly mesa]

woohoo! Thanks @sand oxide ! i had no idea WizardCoder existed. I have many tests to do, including seeing if i can embed it in VS Code, but it is running locally! this model https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/WizardCoder-Guanaco-15B-V1.0-GPTQ This is just the first step. i had to get something up and running to prove to myself i could. Now, to dig deeper

since this is just for my BLender Python adventures right now, it is ok, but yeah.. that makes sense

i needed a step by step, so i am saving some of the ways Laura mentioned for later, but here is a step by step for use with TextGen WebUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPW6mVTTtTc

[median wraith]

We all want something for real

[worldly mesa]

Gargamel?

i will get there soon, but i needed to see the steps, so i understood a bit more of what was happening

[median wraith]

The VS thing on the marketplace works?

[worldly mesa]

the one from Microsoft?

[median wraith]

yes

But seems kinda limited

[worldly mesa]

well, yeah.. as to what is the extent of what it does, IDK

[median wraith]

What was that

[worldly mesa]

that was for a previous conversation, no worries

[median wraith]

👀

[worldly mesa]

but it was the Smurfs and Gargamel, of course!

🙂

[median wraith]

I mean, David the gnome were way better

👀

[worldly mesa]

right, but i did not even know what bin to dl., for example, no bin here https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/WizardCoder-Guanaco-15B-V1.0-GPTQ/tree/main it makes more sense now though, that i went through this long route. now i have to find the right .bin 🙂

[pearl elk]

I didnt know you were a gnome

[median wraith]

Hey I'm

[worldly mesa]

scroll up slightly ponkkis, from audio clip

[pearl elk]

youre a gnome named gnorm?

[median wraith]

no, David

[worldly mesa]

I will need that i think. right now, i am using 11 of 12GB VRAM

[median wraith]

the one that fight trolls

[median wraith]

That's normal if you are on Windows 11

[pearl elk]

my compile was quicker moving my source build to an nvme on win11 😮

[median wraith]

how much?

[pearl elk]

more than 10 minutes faster

[median wraith]

I'm sorry but don't like Win11

[pearl elk]

I like that it puts a border around the windows, win10 doesnt do that and it can be tricky to see the edge of apps sometimes

[median wraith]

mmm

I'm either fan of 10 but it works so

7 were my fav

[worldly mesa]

is that initial cut a sacrifice, or a compression/magic?

[pearl elk]

Yeah 7 was the biggest difference but Windows 10 was surprisingly stable so I thought well 11 has to be better by now. We'll see how it goes since Ive barely used it before 😛

[worldly mesa]

Thanks., trying your exe method now, as i have already managed to confuse and crash this setup 😁

[pearl elk]

Well that worked so far 😛

[worldly mesa]

i will need to research to figure out the ratio. i have 12GB on the 3060, and 4GB on the 1050

[pearl elk]

Not sure why I still need to install a .net manually for compiling UE, it just always complains even after I installed .net stuff from VS

Yeah it hard locks itself to it then it proceeds to use .net 6.0 anyway lol

I bet its some legacy check that hasnt been updated

[worldly mesa]

is the additional few gigabytes able to be the shared ram, or strictly the VRAM

[zinc wagon]

the additional gigs are from your ram yeah

[worldly mesa]

awesome, thanks

cool deal, thanks 🙂 ARGH! why no GUI for that? this other route has sliders! 😛

i'm gonna go over my 'unlimited' internet plan downloading models. i can tell already

he's a busy guy!

[pearl elk]

You should see instagram, theres heaps more models on there 😛

[worldly mesa]

oh, turns out this bin is not compatible with llama.cpp, but will work with koboldcpp

oh geez., i must be more tired than i thought :/ fully missed it ^^

ok, this confuses me.. i thought this would be built in to the bin "Weights are not included, you can use the official llama.cpp quantize.exe to generate them from your official weight files " this is from the koboldcpp site.. i am probably just worrying about nothing

ok, enough for tonight. i will research more tomorrow

have fun all, and thanks again Laura! 🙂

[celest musk]

he usually provides quantanized models for gpu and cpu usage

[unborn lotus]

https://youtu.be/FGW3TPytTjc on top of everything apparently they sold off the prototype sent to them by a small startup

[cursive crypt]

These tubers are like some pop culture stars biting each other asses and doing shady things 👎

[celest musk]

gotta stay somewhat relevant when no new hardware drops to review

[pearl elk]

Oh well, least its not like that whole DnD youtuber thing arguing over who shagged who

[steady fox]

Tomorrow I will put in key scaling

Anyone got a free set of instrument sounds?

[empty dune]

wait what

[steady fox]

I might have something from humble bundle

[empty dune]

i think i just took 1d4 psychic damage with that knowledge

not the humble bundle part

[steady fox]

Im gonna think of a robust system and drift in ro sleep

[empty dune]

remember to put your consciousness into neutral and dont let go of the clutch!

(i have zero clue on how you drift with cars)

[worldly sapphire]

context?

as long as it isn't a minor

[fleet tangle]

So this is pretty cool: <t:1692114000:R> <t:1692113500:R> <t:1692113000:R>

Do you think I pay attention ?!

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[fleet tangle]

😛

[broken sigil]

[fleet tangle]

<t:0:R>

"scenarios" ?

Ah ha.

I'm guessing 99% of that is porn.

[worldly sapphire]

<t:2147483647:R> <t:2159483650:R>

I guess Discord is Year 2038 proof

[fleet tangle]

I'm pretty sure most apps are gonna be y38 proof by now!

[empty dune]

there's a fun list of y scenarios

some extend into 10s of millenia

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-you-disgust-me-gif-13209976

[fleet tangle]

I wonder what the uin64 max is for tick-based time. They base that off 1900 or something, don't they?

[celest musk]

i couldn't even reliable hold the memory of a 32 bit value....

maybe as hex or decimal number, but not as bits

[empty dune]

Year 4501
Microsoft Outlook uses the date 1 January 4501 as a placeholder for "none" or "empty"

funny

Year 30,828
Beginning 14 September 30,828, Windows will not accept dates beyond this day and on startup, it will display an error regarding "invalid system time" in NTFS. This is because the FILETIME value in Windows, which is a 64-bit value corresponding to the number of 100-nanosecond intervals since 1 January 1601, 00:00:00.0000000 UTC, will overflow its maximum possible value on that day at 02:48:05.4775808 UTC.

more funny

[empty dune]

this is what caused the dark age of humanity in warhammer

[empty dune]

Year 292,277,026,596
Certain problematic years occur so far in the future (well beyond the likely lifespan of the Earth, the Sun, humanity, and even past some predictions of the lifetime of the universe) that they are mainly referenced as matters of theoretical interest, jokes, or indications that a related problem is not truly solved for any reasonable definition of "solved".

The year 292,277,026,596 problem (about 2.9×1011 years in the future) will occur when the 64-bit Unix time overflows after UTC 15:30:08 on Sunday, 4 December, AD 292,277,026,596.

[fleet tangle]

Hehe

Well that's well before the heat death of the universe, so there's obviously an issue.

[empty dune]

i think we can do better than 64 bits by then

[fleet tangle]

I guess it worked out nicely with 32bits as well.

And the simple single bit y2k bug.

We'll definitely be on to at least 128bit by then!

I think the problem might come not with extra years, but with extra granularity.

[carmine frigate]

what timezone did the moonlanding happen in?

[unreal ether]

Technically CST

[fleet tangle]

How is the time on another celestial body applicable to Terran time zones?

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/technical-correct-starwars-c3po-r2d2-gif-4811634

[carmine frigate]

but what if they arrived and the moon was allready full?

[fleet tangle]

It was. Of cheese!

[worldly sapphire]

We've forgotten the crackers!

[empty dune]

You'd need a base number to convert from, that's about it. Anyway time is hard to track accurately (i remember a story about how the very first few atomic clocks got affected and ended up out of sync while they were being transported. It was a big deal because these clocks were supposed to be the scale with which to measure the other clocks. No idea how true that story is)

[worldly sapphire]

I still get utterly confused when they speak about moving the clock forward or backwards

[fleet tangle]

The time doesn't actually change. You just say "it's an hour earlier now" for 6 months.

[fathom wadi]

yeah it;s the calendar system that needs to change

[cursive crypt]

Time is a relative pointer.

[fleet tangle]

Colour time is interesting.

[fathom wadi]

Time wastes our minds, and our wits.
But we waste time so now we're quits.

[celest musk]

me trying to understand quaternions 2023 for the 10th time colorized

[carmine frigate]

u cant just use the to quat node

[celest musk]

ofc i can

[regal pecan]

sounds like abuse

[steady fox]

Im all for those neuron links

[steady fox]

Doot doot. #1060433652963627028 message

Nah not with that one

https://youtu.be/TRfqPi1Nw2U

[stiff crystal]

I tried vs code for c++.. but I can't even make the MS compiler run on it without manually launching vs developer console and then typing code . on right folder

how is this so bad

I know there's supposed to be a way to automate this

but their official guide just fails

[unreal ether]

Welcome to Vs code

It's not meant to be good for c++

[stiff crystal]

this is such a common use case tho

I'm also sure it's trivial to write some kind of script to handle this

but would expect better

only reason I even tried this was because of those local LLMs meant for coding 😅

[unreal ether]

I mean the use case is an ide

Vs code is lightweight for lightweight things like c# and web deb stuff

[stiff crystal]

there are no extensions for that purpose on regular VS afaik

yeah don't get me started on linux 😁

just like VS code, I avoid linux because I want to do other things than bend it to work like I want

I swear on linux I keep googling more terminal commands than I actually ever use the system otherwise

I remember young 0lento, 2 decades ago thinking, he'll switch to using linux as main OS instead of Windows as it can do everything he wanted. that experiment ended badly and linux distros have since evolved a ton, but I actually never stopped using linux on VM or on standalone devices.. but it has still been constant struggle for decades

it has this really strong diy mentality

you do a ton but for almost everything you have to do things the hard way

and every guide is outdated

my favorite one was this one thing I recently struggled with and I googled for the solution... which gave like half a million results of people having the same problem and zero actually functional solutions

I tried to run linux on top of android.. and the solutions I found used chroot.. which made whole bunch of things pain, on top of having to use ancient linux kernel for the device which brought another wall of pain on it's own 😄

I finally made some super hacky setup that worked, but it really wasn't worth all the time spent on it

same thing with arm devices

you just hack things until you call it good enough and call it a day

well.. technically android phones are arm devices 😄

but yeah

[stiff crystal]

back them when I tried to use linux as main desktop, even mouse acceleration was totally bonkers

I remember that it was completely broken, making whole experience feel laggy

could have been user error

it's way better now tho

I recently installed ubuntu studio for one audio project

and man...

this was such painful setup, like everything on linux

my monitor got stuck on 1028 x 768 etc

which was because nvidia's proprietary drivers didn't work with the low latency kernel on this

so I just yolo'd and went back to open source nvidia drivers

but then my webbrowser didn't even open, just freezed

turned out the open source nvidia drivers don't do that gpu acceleration browsers rely on by default

and disabling that setting easily would have needed functional browser ui

I did eventually find someone else having same issue and solving it by installing some older secret low latency nvidia drivers

but considering most users who use this probably face this exact same issue.. they could have just mentioned this on the ubuntu studio guide

I actually tried to do it by the book

but yeah, this is my typical linux experience, every time.. for past 2 decades

even VM installs usually require you to jump through hoops to get virtualbox play ball 😄

[stiff crystal]

I guess we are now past this 😄

[worldly mesa]

there is a #linux room

[stiff crystal]

I don't really seek for help on it

just wenting I suppose

well.. if you just use it as normal desktop for web browsing and stuff

it'll be quite good experience

[worldly mesa]

i'm just poking 🙂

[stiff crystal]

it's pretty funny that we have linux distros that just mimic macos and windows UX so closely

[steady fox]

Nerds

[fathom wadi]

how dare you. I'm a geek thank you and I worked for over 2 decades to become one. Have some respect 😉

[scarlet cedar]

I'll have you know... Etc

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/cancel-all-of-it-cancelled-cancel-all-dismiss-nicole-polizzi-gif-15447407

[fathom wadi]

only another 200,000 frames to render. FML

[worldly mesa]

is there any reason to keep a ggml (or other) models on a nvme, or does it all load in to memory anyways, so a platter drive is ok?

[fathom wadi]

no idea

However.,.. check out this amazing review.

[steady fox]

If i was to put in pitch control with musical instruments, using the 1 to 9 keys is acceptable, with shift upping an octave and ctrl lowering one?

I can't think of a better control system

[stiff crystal]

it does load it to memory, but every time you load it, it'll be bloody slow on HDD

well... there's OS caching

so that helps

but still

[worldly mesa]

cool deal, thanks

[stiff crystal]

also if you run this outside interactive chat mode, it means it literally loads the model again for every prompt you give it

[regal pecan]

If the model is several gigabytes, that sounds horrendous.

[worldly mesa]

wow. ok, good to know, thanks

[cursive crypt]

Feels like the first time I see a game where the ESC does not bring out the menu.

[fathom wadi]

someone made a 96 hour video of rain sounds. I mean... thats like over 500gb video

[cursive crypt]

Can you recognize how many times it was looped over?

[fathom wadi]

hmm come to think of it they might just have streamed it and saved the stream

[ruby mason]

There are videos like that lol

I haven’t seen ones breaking TOS, but there’s a funny 1 hour version of the portal theme song that has

Interesting middle parts

[woven wing]

"Let me just build this, then I can go to bed"

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-build-pengu-teamfight-tactics-time-to-build-time-to-fix-gif-23653603

[unreal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/building-your-own-pc-pc-building-silly-funny-gif-17787191

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/ge-force-garage-ge-force-jensen-pc-nvidia-gif-21180987

[proud jay]

🧔‍♀️

discord so woke

they probably never have to put an alarm

[fleet tangle]

But why doesn't it work?!!!

[soft night]

https://www.techradar.com/pro/security/discordio-gets-taken-down-after-massive-data-breach

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/israel-palestine-dwarf-hate-dance-gif-17509290

[median wraith]

Whats .io ?

I mean discord is dot com

[cursive crypt]

Discord.io, a third-party service that helps people generate custom invites for their Discord channels

It was literally the 1st sentence.

[median wraith]

Yeah spotted it later

not sure at all in what affects anything

I don't think used that ever

[cursive crypt]

I wonder too, how massive is actually that 'massive'. Catchy title.

Who uses Discord anyway?

[median wraith]

technically don't even affect the 0.7% of users

But maybe is a good idea to change passwords anyway

[cursive crypt]

Shouldn't matter, but it wont hurt 🤔

[median wraith]

Non related with this topic... aside from Meetup is there any other web or something to find activities and people around ?

[cursive crypt]

Like Facebook?

[median wraith]

Facebook is kinda strange because the activies aren't physical activities at all, aside from the fact it seems like is abandoned by a lot of people I knew, the recommended connections in closer area seems like the opposite of people you want to know and the people at 4000km seems like the people you want to connect

[cursive crypt]

I think it is just hard to find ppl there too.

[median wraith]

haha used both

[cursive crypt]

bumble friends

[median wraith]

Strava at least is useful to track the path

[cursive crypt]

Do you search for ppl based on a hobby or just in general?

[median wraith]

Seems like in my area the only thing I found alike on at Meetup is a group of people only into tabletop games, there isn't a middle point between too nerd and no nerd

Gamedev usually have channels over the country but aren't many so there isn't per city etc

maybe in general

you have to pay for almost all that's the issue

also Wikiloc is pretty cool

to check routes

[cursive crypt]

When getting old is hard to find buddies.

[median wraith]

yeah...

and is worst then everyone went with their couples and families

seems like almost 10€ per month

[median wraith]

I gave a try once to Bumble awhile ago but idk if were the friends sub branch

Usually the problem in the apps were the people want to meet other people fast, is those almost always lie to be with other person but at the end they don't have anything consistent in return

That's like that game I don't remember the name were each character have a different color and they are in the space and a lot of people lies to survive (also for couples, and not looking for it right now)

[cursive crypt]

Amongst Us?

[median wraith]

oh among us

yep

[cursive crypt]

I dunno. Prolly the best is having a real contact with ppl. On the job say.

[median wraith]

That isn't possible when you work in remote for other countries

Despite you make friends and such

But by the end of the day you don't have anyone to sit and talk

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/alone-boy-playing-simpsons-milhouse-gif-17215384

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-sitting-down-park-bench-waiting-patient-gif-16359379

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-dancing-dance-dancing-robot-t600-robot-gif-22132535

buy one of these 🙂

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-e-cute-robot-come-sit-here-sit-down-here-gif-17780370

[median wraith]

I think only the dog version is commercial

[carmine frigate]

aww

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/boston-dynamics-rickshaw-gif-24052751

or make copy of your self and talk to it

giving your background story, your look voila

copy your memory banks to your virtual player me and talk to it

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-meme-gif-22672438

[median wraith]

lmao

[zinc wagon]

oh good grief lol

[median wraith]

oh yeah Overwatch

[zinc wagon]

yep

this is blizzards first steam launch it absolutely bombed

but we have these kind of reviews so im glad they did launch it on steam 🤣