I want to go to Let It Roll one year, more than I do GDC tbh lol
#lounge
pearl elk
ancient ingot
sell Dieter and you will have the money for both
pearl elk
Dieter should be at DnB events more often tbh ๐
unreal ether
What is GDC?
pearl elk
Oh yeah I live right next to the birthplace of Gabba he says
ancient ingot
Dieter should be at DnB events more often tbh ๐
He's well up for it
proud jay
What is GDC?
G'Day C*nt
pearl elk
Thats how we all talk in New Holland
soft night
that how y'all talk on new voyager
pearl elk
Tim Sweeney is Locutus of Borg according to Digital Foundry lol
empty blade
G'Day C*nt
Oh it's an Australian conference!
pearl elk
Oh it's an Australian conference!
They wont let you in if youre wearing enclosed footwear
soft night
some could then use ai gen to make locutus tim sweeney
unreal ether
They wont let you in if youre wearing enclosed footwear
Are crocs ok?
pearl elk
Only if youre wearing socks
ancient ingot
Crocs with Socks ...... omg do it for the lolz
unreal ether
It's the only way to wear them
You're telling me there's sickos that wear them without socks?!
ancient ingot
yes, all over the place !
unreal ether
People have been imprisoned for lesser crimes smh
ancient ingot
i blame the government
pearl elk
some could then use ai gen to make locutus tim sweeney
Midjourney just doesnt seem to know who Tim Sweeney is
still cove
Use the new versions
soft night
need more parameters
pearl elk
It is the new version, it doesnt know who Tim Sweeney is because he doesnt make enough headlines
still cove
I don't know who Tim Sweeney is
pearl elk
He needs to upload a point cloud model of himself to the metaverse
still cove
Is metaverse still happening?
fluid bloom
*verse is
still cove
I thought they abandoned it
pearl elk
Then we can immortalise him as a chatGPT bot which only talks about functional languages
zinc matrix
pearl elk
Everyone can be Tony Stark
proud jay
no one can be Tony Stank
still cove
even tony stark isnt
proud jay
man I'm listening to bloodborne music, really makes me want to play it again
broken sigil
I never played any of those games, only saw videos and I still don't get the hype around them 
pearl elk
I tried to like Bloodborne but that game kicked my arse
proud jay
tbh I really thought I would never like it
I just bought it cause it was like on sale 2+1 free
and then I played it
and it's a goddamn masterpiece
still can't get into dark souls though
bloodborne is just something else
the whole vibe is just perfect
and the story is so mysterious
you should really try it if you have a ps4 or 5
bro lmao
the one dude I could not stand that works with our team just got fired
effective immediately
see ya
pearl elk
Is it cuz he beat you at chess?
broken sigil
you should really try it if you have a ps4 or 5
I don't ๐ฅฒ
proud jay
normally I hate low framerate
but in BB it never bothered me tbh
maybe because there was no other option lol
in hogwarts legacy putting it to higher res or raytracing with lower framerate was just disgusting
broken sigil
I'm tempted to get a ps5 because there are a few games I really wanna play but I'm worried it would become a glorified dust collector once I play those few games
proud jay
I've enjoyed my ps5 a lot
I was more a pc gamer before I got it
but also I got together with my gf right after getting the ps5, so that might have contributed to being in the couch more often lol
conclusion
ps5 gets you women
pearl elk
I'll admit that my PS4 has been collecting dust since I got my new PC
at the same time theres alot of PC ports Im just like welp Ive played it
broken sigil
conclusion
Don't get a gf?
Dw I have experience in that part
proud jay
makes sense, no one would want to steal your heart with all those issues
broken sigil
In the not having a gf part, you could say I'm a pro at it
pearl elk
So you need the PS5 Pro then
broken sigil
makes sense, no one would want to steal your heart with all those issues
My heart is fine, that blob in my head is a bit less fine ๐
timber viper
steam deck attracts me more than consoles
pearl elk
I have abit of an issue where I dont think my game will work so well on steam deck ๐ฆ
Im in the odd position where touch screen interface might just be better than analog sticks
timber viper
Its 20% slower than PS4
which means terrible
but they cover it up with different strategies on hardware and OS side
pearl elk
Well its mainly aimed at a smaller screen experience right
broken sigil
Im in the odd position where touch screen interface might just be better than an...
Have you thought about the Touch Grassโข๏ธ interface?
pearl elk
I always have to check for animal excrement before touching grass
proud jay
steam deck attracts me more than consoles
you're not supposed to f*ck them
sweet rose
I just bought it cause it was like on sale 2+1 free
Thanks for reminding me
DBZ Games are on sale
ancient ingot
is there a way to get unreal to add a comment in to a new class, like the way it does with the copyright notice ?
proud jay
just put the comment in your copyright notice ๐ง
but also yes
you can edit the templates it uses
proud jay
aren't you a boomer though
timber viper
im the only person who is not boomer in lounge
broken sigil
im the only person who is not boomer in lounge
pearl elk
Nah Im a lazy Millennial, Im the cause of everyones problems
timber viper
<:thinkies:1013540050761429053>
were you 25 or 22
broken sigil
were you 25 or 22
23 
timber viper
ok, thats not boomer age
broken sigil
23 physically, 73 in my head ๐
ancient ingot
im 10
proud jay
what is boomer age
proud jay
nigey is 10 year old caffeine addict
but also 40 year old sheep lover at the same time
proud jay
were you 25 or 22
is 25 boomer age now
timber viper
yes
broken sigil
is 25 boomer age now
Yes
pearl elk
zoomers are the new boomers
pearl elk
Just look at me Blue Man and picture yourself stroking your 40yr old grey beard and discussing UE9
timber viper
nah we wont live as much as boomers lived, ww3 is soon
pearl elk
killed in the Twitterocalypse
broken sigil
Just look at me Blue Man and picture yourself stroking your 40yr old grey beard ...
Thank you for giving me more existential crisis 
ancient ingot
@pearl elk can i get c++ to somehow add which file it is to the beginning of the file, by modifying the templates? file %s or something
pearl elk
You need to ask someone who uses Visual Studio ๐
cursive crypt
Why df you need to touch even these templates
pearl elk
I always just copy/paster my own template classes
proud jay
<@156366027322687488> can i get c++ to somehow add which file it is to the begin...
can't you just see which file you're in? why does it need to be in comments
ancient ingot
to get rid of all the comments im going to delete on every class ๐ก
cursive crypt
Just use your own. If so is needed.
ancient ingot
can't you just see which file you're in? why does it need to be in comments
shh im being awkward ๐
ancient ingot
classes dont have to be in the same named file
this is true
broken sigil
Make a quick tool to iterate all your file and add text at the top ๐ง
ancient ingot
Make a quick tool to iterate all your file and add text at the top ๐ง
im so close to that right now lol
timber viper
cursive crypt
At worst, make two files, copy-paste them when creating a class.
broken sigil
im so close to that right now lol
Unironically would legit do that myself lol
ancient ingot
lol
pearl elk
Update UEs wizard
ancient ingot
https://tenor.com/view/thanksgiving-turkey-gif-23918993
ROFL !!
timber viper
wtf is gobble
timber viper
never heard of a turkey
proud jay
gobble deez nuts
broken sigil
๐
pearl elk
do turkeys eat turkish bread?
ancient ingot
i did not know a UMG binding is esentially tick ?
unreal ether
Yeah
proud jay
Yeah
ancient ingot
well thats a bit sucky ๐ฆ
timber viper
i did not know a UMG binding is esentially tick ?
Not just tick
Its a dynamic delegate dispatch on tick
broken sigil
Its a dynamic delegate dispatch on tick
Performance goes brrrr
pearl elk
i did not know a UMG binding is esentially tick ?
Tick, tick, tick, tick boom
ancient ingot
๐ฅ
cursive crypt
https://trdwll.com/blog/some-simple-optimizations-unreal-engine/
A bit of superstition over there.
sweet rose
@broken sigil Do you know how to change image resolution on Dall E or Hugging Face
broken sigil
<@261183265438695424> Do you know how to change image resolution on Dall E or Hu...
Nope, sorry
I haven't used those
sweet rose
alright np
cursive crypt
Isn't #generative-ai for such questions? There might be some ppl who know.
Or is it BM mostly there? ๐ค
pearl elk
Isn't <#1001804697885216870> for such questions? There might be some ppl who kno...
What kind of rejects post in that channel ๐
ancient ingot
umm.......me.....
sweet rose
Isn't <#1001804697885216870> for such questions? There might be some ppl who kno...
lounge is more active
sweet rose
cursive crypt
Some of us mop the floor
ancient ingot
i sweep he mops
pearl elk
Im just here on my post in the ocean doing tai chi
ancient ingot
โต
zinc matrix
you guys are m.o.p. fans too?
proud jay
mists of pandaria?
pearl elk
Im more of an OPP fan
zinc matrix
ew, i had forgotten that.. thanks..
cursive crypt
OOO > PPP
proud jay
mop also means joke in dutch so idk
ancient ingot
speaking of dutch jokes, where is Luos ?!
pearl elk
I think we lost acouple of mods ;O
proud jay
he abandoned us after he got a "real" job
ancient ingot
when i got here at 8am there were like, 20 mods on ๐
cursive crypt
Can we fire him, so to keep us a company here? ๐ค
proud jay
ask his company
ancient ingot
tell his employer he takes crack, that should work
pearl elk
Epic are the worst, as soon as they hire people they disappear unless their job is customer facing
cursive crypt
ask his company
Give Luos more Slack time, plz.... or ElSe
ancient ingot
๐ซ
pearl elk
Life, Jan, many others... ๐ญ
cursive crypt
The system took them ๐ชฆ
pearl elk
Where did Ambershee go? I should ask him lol
ancient ingot
more to the point
pearl elk
But alot of you guys might not even remember the true UT OGs
ancient ingot
where the fuck did Laura go?!
proud jay
where the fuck did Laura go?!
she hated you
cursive crypt
Legacy Laura
pearl elk
elmuerte and Wormbo, legends
proud jay
so she is undertaking a pilgrimage by foot to visit your mum to tell her you've beena bad boy
cursive crypt
... mom jokes
pearl elk
coroutines were deprecated
cursive crypt
fufu
pearl elk
she was consumed by the uni... verse
broken sigil
Laura got deprecated, upgrade to new version to avoid compiler errors in the future
cursive crypt
There was some UE coroutines shit iirc
proud jay
she had to sacrifice herself so we could get Verse
pearl elk
But why didnt we sacrifice the virgin...
ancient ingot
there is a spider tank on the Marketplace
with only 6 legs ๐
how can it be a spider tank with 6 legs?
cursive crypt
The 8 legged one is the Pro Advanced version
pearl elk
ant tank
proud jay
there is a spider tank on the Marketplace
@ionic flame this you?
ancient ingot
๐
pearl elk
4 legs is the easiest to do the anims for
ancient ingot
yeah Quadraped is a piece of piss
cursive crypt
No legs, no animation, Profit
pearl elk
you know the reason apes evolved to walk upright is because they were lazy?
ancient ingot
hover tank... ?!
pearl elk
it takes less energy to walk on 2 legs but more to run
proud jay
you know the reason apes evolved to walk upright is because they were lazy?
too lazy to animate their front legs
ancient ingot
Dont call Dieter an ape!
pearl elk
ancient ingot
lol
my Internet has turned into a potato, you still downloading porn from me Dieter?
proud jay
just watching your mom's live stream
pearl elk
If you look closely you might see me mooning you
ancient ingot
๐ฒ
ancient ingot
me, its free on ign ๐
pearl elk
Will be a good 10 minutes
pearl elk
The Future of Unity aye
ancient ingot
they giving it a network stack finally?
pearl elk
stacks are soo boomer, we got a network menagerie
ancient ingot
๐
pearl elk
what is a full stack anyway
ancient ingot
size DD normally ๐
pearl elk
if someone said, hey wanna buy a half a stack... you'd be like no thanks
but then you buy the full stack and they come and say, oh wait thats not the full stack... youre like WHAT
ancient ingot
lol get the other half as dlc
sweet rose
you know the reason apes evolved to walk upright is because they were lazy?
opposite
proud jay
why full stack and not full heap
sweet rose
our lazy ancestors stayed on the trees because the ground had predators
pearl elk
we have a local saying, heaps good
sweet rose
our Chad ancestors decided to explore
cursive crypt
They support the Cancel culture
proud jay
we should cancel culture
pearl elk
When in doubt, cancel it
proud jay
no more statues or historical buildings
ancient ingot
oh ffs they nuked it? ๐ฆ
sweet rose
no more statues or historical buildings
dieter is a communist ๐ฏ
proud jay
why
pearl elk
because you use UE
proud jay
I don't though
soft night
pearl elk
ahh Eve the themed spreadsheet
pearl elk
Thankfully I know a few Eve gurus so I'll use them as consultants ๐
proud jay
how do you know they're gurus and not badrus
pearl elk
as long as they arnt grus
pearl elk
soft night
mons know eve gurus who chill in jita system
steel summit
pearl elk
L4D3 data was scraped from CS2 ๐ฎ
as per usual though
I bet Gabe plays as Bill in all the games
fleet tangle
It seems this time... L4D is Back 4 Blood.
pearl elk
But didnt it Evolve ๐ฎ
ancient ingot
oh i see what you did there, very clever ๐
also animation retargeting is boring as hell :/
proud jay
thanks
soft night
fleet tangle
also animation retargeting is boring as hell :/
Try going through code and fixing all the places somebody has used non weak lambdas that are failing due to gc.
proud jay
I remember the time our "lead" was spending weeks on trying to fix a crash
and he finally gave up and I had some time
in a few hours I found it was just a memory issue cause there was a missing UPROPERTY
fleet tangle
Lol
proud jay
doesn't take much to be lead, just find a shitty company
still geyser
proud jay
why not AInti cheat
fleet tangle
First person to get banned by ai is gonna be annoyed.
still geyser
I do worry if we don't get good cheat detection in place that cheats will kill online FPS gaming.
proud jay
First person to get banned by ai is gonna be annoyed.
people getting banned from madison square by ai
proud jay
I do worry if we don't get good cheat detection in place that cheats will kill o...
bro, are you like 4 years old
there's been cheaters ever since the first CoD and before
still geyser
I'm aware. But there isn't a solution to AI cheats ATM. Unless the one discussed in the video actually does as advertised
broken sigil
it's been a lot worse the last year with the rise of AI cheats
On average 30-40% of players you encounter are cheating in some way
it's way way worse than it used to be
pearl elk
What if the cheats get so human we dont need human players anymore ๐
broken sigil
pearl elk
bots are earning more money than humans anyway
still geyser
@broken sigil That is another thing. Without good anti-cheat, cheats are on the rise. Higher than ever.
proud jay
luckily we have Denuvo ๐
broken sigil
<@261183265438695424> That is another thing. Without good anti-cheat, cheats are...
the problem is regular anti cheats can't detect the more advanced ones, since it isn't even running on cheater's machine/doesn't have to
So regular scanning of memory, etc... doesn't work
still geyser
I don't see the point in playing certain games because of it. I think it will be a matter of social awareness/saturation of the problem before online games start to take a hit in sales
Might be a rise in more (hopefully better) SP games though to @proud jay point
broken sigil
The only real way to combat it is to have something to monitor player behavior, what some AI anti cheats are or are planning to do
but sounds like a false positive nightmare
still geyser
the problem is regular anti cheats can't detect the more advanced ones, since it...
Exactly, cheating in its final form, all optical
pearl elk
I liked Valves honeypot trap
still geyser
Well Anybraingg is claiming to solve all cheating with AI.
broken sigil
Well Anybraingg is claiming to solve all cheating with AI.
the problem is that they are likely having a huge number of false positives that they are not aware of
still geyser
The video went over even supposedly making a digital human behavior signature for each player in 2 hours so a ban doesn't hit hardware ID it hits you specifically based on your behavior. Quite the claim.
broken sigil
the problem is that they are likely having a huge number of false positives that...
And the main reason we won't see AI anti cheats become popular anytime soon
fleet tangle
https://youtu.be/LkmIItTrQP4
Damn. 30%!
still geyser
That is certainly a concern. But I'd say that I'm willing to accept a certain risk if it performs well most of the time than not.
fleet tangle
people getting banned from madison square by ai
What?
still geyser
Like if there is a 10% error rate, I'd accept that, just have an appeal process.
I suspect that 30% is conservative I'm betting higher.
Although there is a skill in using most modern day cheats successfully. Most newbie cheaters are probably flaunting it even if there are warnings not to flaunt it
fleet tangle
10% error rate is huge.
proud jay
What?
their facial recognition is now barring any lawyers of firms involved in any lawsuits against them from the premises
fleet tangle
1% would be unacceptable.
fleet tangle
their facial recognition is now barring any lawyers of firms involved in any law...
Love it.
still geyser
10% error rate is huge.
It's s something I'd personally accept if the game said, we have a 10% error rate but 90% of cheaters will get caught.
celest musk
just don't play competitive games online
still geyser
just don't play competitive games online
Exactly... that is the current wise choice
But it isn't ideal is it?
celest musk
but then you are still left with cheaters which may annoy you like in GTA V
where they can crash your whole game
because i always call this scumbags out ๐
still geyser
yes it isn't just competitive play, casual too
celest musk
can't help myself
fleet tangle
And cheat to make you get banned for cheating, which was so funny.
celest musk
yesterday i started GTA V after a weeks of pause, first lobby cheater, called them out, crash to desktop after 15mins of playing ๐
broken sigil
yesterday i started GTA V after a weeks of pause, first lobby cheater, called th...
it's the worst offender of them all
Everything is client side, even money pickups
fleet tangle
That must be so badly coded.
still geyser
The game does try to do a lot
celest musk
it is, they are able to send packets which spawn stuff on your client, which the player can't see
then you crash with out of memory
cmon, this is absolute garbage code
fleet tangle
Oh dear.
broken sigil
That must be so badly coded.
it's on the next level of bad
It's obvious the online part was badly strapped together by someone who had no idea what they were doing just to get the online part working
celest musk
rockstar just doesn't give a shit about their actual players
fleet tangle
Peer to peer or listen servers? Or something?
broken sigil
p2p
celest musk
p2p
fleet tangle
Oh dear lord.
celest musk
rockstar only hosts the "master servers" which tell the client to which other client to connect
ancient ingot
Rockstar ๐ฉ
worldly sapphire
I briefly had to dive into Unity to create a small debugging app and I added a UI with their new UI Toolkit. It feels dirty to say but wow it really went smoothly
It felt pretty straightforward, dunno how it is with more complex scenarios
cursive crypt
Nice. Car is dead as a bug.
ancient ingot
๐ชฒ
ancient ingot
lol
proud jay
Nice. Car is dead as a bug.
not all bugs are dead ๐ค
proud jay
damn this works so well https://www.zerogpt.com/
I asked chatgpt a question
posted it in there
and it said 0%
gg
another tool
cursive crypt
It is actually ran by openai themselves, as an adversial model.
unreal ether
So let's not use that to decide copyright then :P
I'm curious if you make up something that sounds vaguely AI like, will it false positive?
zinc matrix
checkmate
zinc matrix
i cant. it makes horrible jokes
thick oracle
It doesn't detect the bing thingy
cursive crypt
dafuq is that smile for?
cursive crypt
freaking corps
proud jay
dafuq is that smile for?
trying to be "human"
cursive crypt
Just MS fawning over the curious users.
broken sigil
Stuff from my bot always gets marked as 100% human lol
broken sigil
Deja is still on GPT3.5, still on the GPT4 waitlist ๐ฅฒ
zinc matrix
cat-gpt is more useful
worldly sapphire
cat-gpt is more useful
tell me more
zinc matrix
tell me more
worldly sapphire
i love it
white oxide
is an HDD making a clicking sound bad?
regal pecan
yes
lofty lark
is an HDD making a clicking sound bad?
Free metronome if you ask me
soft night
detector not work at all detected
zinc matrix
i wonder if theres a job called joke trainer that trains the ai what is funny joke and what is not
regal pecan
Feed it some joke books in training. Should be enough.
At least until someone starts publishing anti-joke books. Then all bets are off.
zinc matrix
yeah, but those are like reading bestseller programming books from amazon. sounds good, doesnt work.
fathom wadi
i wonder if theres a job called joke trainer that trains the ai what is funny jo...
yeah it's called "Scraping Twitter before Elon"
zinc matrix
Hmm what is the best way to learn about UI? Watch youtube tutorials?
fleet tangle
The best way is to ask in the appropriate channel!
oblique cloak
fleet tangle
Did link just murder that old guy by accident?
fleet tangle
The gpt detector isn't as good as gpt.
still geyser
No hope for AI anti cheat then ๐ฆ maybe needs more training data
fleet tangle
Anti-cheat is a lot easier than language.
zinc matrix
The best way is to ask in the appropriate channel!
wasn't know we have an UI channel mb
fleet tangle
Just mp
primal summit
what if I want single-player anticheat because of leaderboard hijinx?
white storm
Anybody has this ones? Any noticeable difference to Audeze LCD4/5?
pearl elk
and people think GPUs are overpriced
white storm
GPUs IS overpriced because its cost is artificially high, there are not so many people who buy good headphones -> little demand and real price
pearl elk
Id say there are just as many audio professionals as there are graphics
white storm
audio professionals would buy dt 900 x under 700 usd, they will not by Stax for sure
pearl elk
But aye, music has been around longer so they know the game. GPU manufacturers only just starting to work it out they got you by the short and curlys ๐
white storm
I mean, when there is two company (Nvidea and Amd) which control all market, obviously then can and they WILL set prices much higher, capitalism is not about honest market competition
So i think its not about how long market exist, but about how good antitrust authorities work
white storm
Didnt hear about this company btw
pearl elk
Really, they are a premier audio company, you cant even go in the store without handing over your CC
Stax must sound like angels
white storm
There is good audio companies in Australia, especially DAC manufactures
But at least what i would say, if it is wireless, it will not sound great, is this around 500usd?
pearl elk
depends on what sort of wireless technology they use, for all I know they are 6G
white storm
Alright actually it is in stock in my local shops and around 1200usd, wow
pearl elk
you can use em with a 3.5mm jack says here but I doubt that jack sounds any better than 5G wireless lol
white storm
3.5 will always sound better with good DAC then any kind of wireless
pearl elk
so what youre telling me is even if I have $6000 headphones I still need to buy more ๐
I think I might be able to launch a record player into space for the price of this setup
white storm
Ehhh no, you cant use this 6k usd stax with phone, it must be used with special power 5pin cable (cuz uses 600v and ~20amp)
but if you looking really good headphones, you can find really really good under 500usd
but it will be wired ofc 
pearl elk
I just use cheapo Logitech crap
white storm
๐ฌ
pearl elk
I get 7.1 in game which is where its important
white storm
Apple music?
pearl elk
nope, even Apple music it depends on when it was recorded to the quality
white storm
Yeah, true
white storm
Would be better if they do analog record somehow
And then sell it in mqa and dsd
Still will be depended on sources in Fl studio or whatever soft they use with samples
pearl elk
oh boy, listen to Cypress Hill Black Sunday if you wanna hear what analog sounds like, its all record scratches
primal summit
Ehhh no, you cant use this 6k usd stax with phone, it must be used with special ...
600V 20A is 12kW...
white storm
oh boy, listen to Cypress Hill Black Sunday if you wanna hear what analog sounds...
Ideally, of course, I would like to buy vinyl and a good phono stage, yeah
primal summit
you're not pushing concert venue speaker stacks in a pair of headphones
also that cable would be an inch thick
pearl elk
Oh man when I saw AMC alittle while back it was too loud and I even like loud music
white storm
also that cable would be an inch thick
I am wrong in amperes, voltage is correct
tulip orbit
you're not pushing concert venue speaker stacks in a pair of headphones
you could, temporarily!
primal summit
you could, temporarily!
honestly, standard headphone cable couldn't handle the voltage, but it'd melt in half a cycle anyway!
tulip orbit
great sound for 0.0001ms tho!
primal summit
I am wrong in amperes, voltage is correct
Ahh, seems high but ok. Probably 20uA or so.
white storm
Before reading of that tech i was wondering why not use just 3.5 or 6.3 jack
Make sense now
pearl elk
dont you get clearer audio if the channels arnt compressed
zinc matrix
do you guys ever put note on people in discord
pearl elk
is that price for a single lol
pearl elk
What sort of audio quality do you need to pump through em, get the 92kbps cranking lol
100 channel flac, 2 channel per instrument
tulip orbit
pff, forget the 92kbps, pull out the midi player
fleet tangle
If only slipknot were any good.
peak beacon
guys how do i create a 100% AI converted game?
fleet tangle
Ai converted?
fleet tangle
shrug
pearl elk
If only slipknot were any good.
Whats a band that you consider to have better percussion than Slipknot?
pearl elk
It is, shes playing the drums
fleet tangle
I'm saying slipknot vocals are bad. When did I mention her?
pearl elk
Youre listening to the wrong Slipknot songs my friend
fleet tangle
The one at the start of that video. And every place I skipped to.
pearl elk
they took the drums off the track in that video for her to play, thats why its mostly vocals
fleet tangle
And the vocals sucked. It's a huge problem for slipknot.
Just in general, not just in that video.
pearl elk
Yeah I get that but not all their tracks have that sort of heavy vocals
fleet tangle
Do they have any tracks with clean vocals? ๐
pearl elk
No Ed Sheeran doesnt feature
fleet tangle
Because that's the 2 types of band that exist.
pearl elk
Well I consider Ed Sheerans vocals to be clean
fleet tangle
Probably are. I don't really listen to him much.
pearl elk
Slipknots vocals are all dirty because the entire playlist is
fleet tangle
Good for them? ๐
fleet tangle
You can sing morbid shit without sounding like you need a lozenge.
fleet tangle
You didn't really ask anything? And I'm happy with my stance of shitting on slipknot lol.
pearl elk
Which leads me to believe you've never heard better percussion because youre more of a vocal person... but not having hear Ed Sheeran Im wondering what it is youre trying to get me to listen to in comparison
fleet tangle
Oh the drums thing. I guess you asked that.
pearl elk
Percussion, Slipknot dont just play drums
fleet tangle
You're right, drums aren't my thing. I appreciate vocals more.
That's just semantics.
pearl elk
tell that to their percussionists
fleet tangle
No band just playa drums. They use drumkits which include a wide variety of different percussion instruments.
pearl elk
Personally I think vocalists get too much attention in the musical world
fleet tangle
Maybe so.
pearl elk
Nothing wrong with a great voice but playing instruments is just if not more skillful, especially if you can do both
fleet tangle
I'm not saying they aren't skilled or important!
Every part of a piece is important. Especially the cowbell.
pearl elk
Im just trying to get it out of you what you think is better if thats not clear
fleet tangle
I don't know.
pearl elk
Fine with personal taste, I just dont do operatic metal much at all, I think its pretty circle jerk
fleet tangle
I wasn't really commenting on the quality of slipknots drumming.
pearl elk
Unless you consider Queen metal ๐
fleet tangle
Tbh, a lot of the bands like that I think have fantastic musicians and good sounds.
Just half of them can't sing.
pearl elk
Im sure they do but they arnt very inventive especially in the percussion department
fleet tangle
Queen is rock and pop, not metal, obviously. ๐
pearl elk
Personally I like Eddie Vedder but it was everyones favourite past time to crap on him too
fleet tangle
Actually, pearl jam is like this whole band I just missed. Like just never really heard their stuff.
pearl elk
Slipknot had multiple vocalists and drummers, two of whom are now dead so bit hard to resurrect them to make the sound good... bit like people whinging about old Metallica
There are 9 original members, the latest albums are less of each compared to the first couple
fleet tangle
I actually preferred the mid Metallica era. Sort of that softer sound of Reload and stuff. Ride the lightning and stuff was good, but unforgiven 2 is an amazing song. They went to shit eventually, though.
Master of Puppets, obvious classic.
pearl elk
See people shit on Metallica for focusing too much on vocals in those later albums
and Lars actually got good
fleet tangle
Heh
pearl elk
Moth to the Flame is his masterpiece
its not technically complex but its his f-u to all the critics
fleet tangle
Ah st anger. That was it. God that was a fucking shit album.
Never bothered with them again after that.
pearl elk
I think Bush was better than Nirvana personally, much cleaner
fleet tangle
I'm not all that much of a nirvana fan even.
pearl elk
but yeah Pearl Jam got hammered thats probably why you never heard much, people would rather blast Creedance for the zillionth time
fleet tangle
Teen spirit is about their only half decent song.
pearl elk
I think their best song is a cover
fleet tangle
That's true for quite a few bands these days ๐
pearl elk
fleet tangle
I'm a big fan of Sebastian Bach when it comes to vocals.
fleet tangle
๐
pearl elk
Might as well pull out the Bon Jovi
pearl elk
Yeah very yankie in this one
Okay so now I get where youre coming from, I can see why Slipknot is not your thing
fleet tangle
Yeah.
pearl elk
I have a very wide taste so I bounce around all over
pearl elk
I tend to block out the singing of most metal tbh lol
fleet tangle
Exactly my point. You shouldn't have to!
pearl elk
my least favourite are the demonic chants which sound like someone is singing in reverse down a drain pipe ๐
fleet tangle
Like about the dirtiest I like singing is Disturbed. I think they had a nice balance.
That is, not all that dirty.
pearl elk
Megadeath has cleaner vocals
fleet tangle
Yeah. I like a lot of their songs.
pearl elk
They got some great percussion too which helps
fleet tangle
๐
Motorhead are pretty great too. Poor lemmy and his gigantic mole rip.
Most good bands seem to start with M. It's a trend I've noticed.
pearl elk
I think the most operatic I get is System of a Down
fleet tangle
Yeah, not a fan of them either. He has a good voice but then he goes and spoils it all!
pearl elk
lol yeah he's abit of a troll
I hate DJs who are trolls, you just start dancing and theyre like nope
fleet tangle
Lol
pearl elk
tbh I was never really into the older metal much, like Sabbath
fleet tangle
I think the problem is that made so much music... Not all of it is good.
Like I'm a fan of Floyd. But only like 10% of their songs.
pearl elk
The thing of it too is music continues to be made so its not like I was ever left wanting
fleet tangle
True that.
pearl elk
I never felt like I had to dig into my past, I mainly do it because Im feeling nostalgic
primal summit
tbh I was never really into the older metal much, like Sabbath
the only good black sabbath was the dio years
fleet tangle
I just don't really listen to music much these days tbh. I'm either watching something or working. And it's too distracting.
pearl elk
I actually really liked the B-52s and Bruce Springsteen back in the day, oh and Tina Turner. Barely listen to that these days ๐
pearl elk
Barry Manilow
fleet tangle
Never heard much of his stuff tbh.
My parents liked that sort of era of music, though.
pearl elk
gotta give him credit, keeps on ticking
mind you what happened to Kamahl
used to see him on TV ads all the time ๐
fleet tangle
He got the hump? (terrible camel joke)
pearl elk
I think the day vocalists died for me was when Aquas Barbie Girl hit the charts and I came to the realisation you never needed talent
Had my suspicions with Bono but that sealed the deal, no pun intended
pearl elk
Seems like WoW is coming back to bite Blizzard in the buns
it created so many RPG experts theres no pleasing them ๐
cursive crypt
Fleas bit them. Who brings them troubles?
pearl elk
Im too old school to be a modern Blizzard fan
These 20 somethings know everything about WoW, D3, PoE, Lost Ark etc etc
No hit run Elden Ring blindfolded in the nude
cursive crypt
They just a noise in the matrix.
pearl elk
I wouldnt call 1.81M followers noise, Id call that a proper glitch
cursive crypt
Run the antivirus.
pearl elk
cursive crypt
But yeah.
pearl elk
checkit
cursive crypt
Ah... If you ask me about D3 - sure. D4? Likely, it is hard to leave what they did in D3.
pearl elk
Mind you some of the crap they are talking about I had with D2 lol
cursive crypt
The net is full of ppl who yell, does not make them right tho.
As you said, sometimes, the PR is strong and they got many believers.
pearl elk
These guys arnt yelling though, they are clearly subject matter experts
cursive crypt
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
pearl elk
Glad Im not into making RPGs
cursive crypt
Arent they experts in consuming games, not making them?
pearl elk
Yeah, they are the people who pay the wages
We mistakenly think its the people in suits giving orders but its not
If someone said to me in 2023 that my game has decades old concepts from the early 2000s Id be shattered
Just have a listen to the way they are talking, its not hate, its just questioning the design decisions
cursive crypt
Nah, dude straight on said the major of ppl interested in D4 heard about it from the TV.
I thought TV is gone, they heard from friend or Internet.
pearl elk
huh, where did they mention TV
pearl elk
yeah I dunno bout that
must have been a very minor point in the scheme of things
TV is still very big in public spaces, more so than the internet. Hotels for example are all cable TV still, so are sports bars
They dont just let you swap channels from the horse racing
cursive crypt
Whatever with the TV, it can disappear for what I care.
pearl elk
I see heaps of crappy mobile game ads on Foxtel which is the predominant broadcaster here in Australia. Im not even sure how they afford it
cursive crypt
Anyway, it is too much of analyzing.
pearl elk
Well my point is there are things in here I had problems with in D2 and they still havent been fixed, thats why I dont think they are being unreasonable
Its okay to want games to evolve for the better, sure they arnt game developers but there is a good reason why these big companies that should be making bank are getting gobbled up but your Microsofts and Tencents
cursive crypt
I guess, I was a casual D2 player back then. Spend tens of hours, but I still don't remember the issues.
pearl elk
I had probably more than 1000 hours in D2
cursive crypt
D3 looked like mobile gacha, D4 looks like trying to move toward what D2 was.
pearl elk
yeah D3s visuals were horrible but they did sort of ruin D2s visuals too with the expansion. I had a wicked set of Gothic Armour I was never able to find again, it seemed like they removed the visuals for some reason
I think there were some items which dropped which were too strong so they got "fixed"
The issue with the Druid and Sorceresses chain lightning though, Im just here like
cursive crypt
I have forgotten most of it, lol
Back then I was more into that genre.
pearl elk
Yeah I havent played many RPGs lately, BL3, maybe Cyberpunk 2077 at the risk of being flamed ๐
cursive crypt
I kinda prefer the more rpg oriented like Titans Quest or whatever was that name with the Angels, Werewolves and Mummies hack & slash
pearl elk
Yeah I tried Titans Quest but they all end up being very similar
What was that one I liked Torchlight
I love games like that and Vermintide where you get a cool blend of melee and guns
pearl elk
I played some of Path of Exile but games which have seasons and stuff just dishearten me. I take a look and its too huge, since alot of RPGs are open world too its such a big time commitment I dont have
cursive crypt
True that.
pearl elk
I make progress but it never feels like its enough, you end up in plebville if you dont commit the soul of your first born to the fires of the gamer gods
cursive crypt
Now thinking of it the most close to Hack & Slash I really liked was Divine Divinity, much more RPG.
Not talking about the recent Original Sin & Co, they have almost nothing in common. The latter are tactical, teams and etc.
pearl elk
I love Ziggurat because its a perfect little roguelite, can jump in and blast through a few dungeons. There are larger ones but nothing that would take you hours
cursive crypt
hmm... yeah, not familiar with it.
pearl elk
My bro put me onto the TotalBiscuit review and Ive been playing it ever since
Its a Unity game ๐ฎ
cursive crypt
lol
pearl elk
I do have that roguelike one made with UE ummz, City of Brass but I couldnt get into it for some reason
I think its because Ziggurat has wands and guns ๐
ancient ingot
Cabbages!
proud jay
you guys like milk?
south elm
you guys like milk?
proud jay
yeah, but he doesn't have parents
cursive crypt
you guys like milk?
<inserts random milk joke>
unreal ether
Milk is good. Pilk ain't half bad. Chocolate milk is awful
Now strawberry milk... strawberry milk is aight
proud jay
Milk is good. Pilk ain't half bad. Chocolate milk is awful
wtf is pilk
unreal ether
wtf is pilk
Pepsi milk
It sounds disgusting but it ain't that different to a pepsi float
proud jay
wtf is a pepsi float
cursive crypt
unborn lotus
unreal ether
wtf is a pepsi float
Ice cream in pepsi
worldly mesa
Dispepsiyuck
unreal ether
but pepsi with milk wtf
It's not as bad as it seems
Just don't leave it too long or the pepsi goes clear
Same with the ice cream one tbh
fleet tangle
Just don't leave it too long or the pepsi goes clear
Boiled pepsi goes clear?
fleet tangle
The colour is just colouring, I thought?
unreal ether
Boiled pepsi goes clear?
No, pepsi with milk or ice cream
proud jay
you brits really are something else
unreal ether
does the taste disappear together with the color?
Never tried it in that form. The pepsi goes clear, and you get pepsi flakes at the bottom. It's weird
Hey that's an American thing
I just happen to enjoy it
fleet tangle
No, pepsi with milk or ice cream
A coke float is an American thing, I thought?
Yeah.
unreal ether
Coke floats are amazing. And the milk variant that disgusts people so much really isn't that far removed
Will always choose ice cream though
proud jay
how come all americans participate in heart attack any% speedrun
unreal ether
I really have no clue
It's like as if waffles and fried chicken weren't unhealthy enough on their own, they put em together with maple syrup
And again, it's shamefully tasty
Only ever had it once tho
The Scots also seem to like speedrunning heart faliure
cursive crypt
This may even cause chatbots to revolt.
unreal ether
I've also always found it humorous that people in various countries will have like 12 cheeseburgers, with a side salad to make it healthy
proud jay
I had a friend that if he went to mcdonalds always got 6 cheeseburgers
that's it
nothing else
he was thin as a stick though
I don't get it
life is not fair
unborn lotus
he was thin as a stick though
I have a friend like that. The trick was that's all he ate for the whole day. He keeps going how he couldn't get fat eating mcdonalds and pizza
Well yeah...just eat continously like the rest of us
Anyway workin from home got to him, he's gotten to a normal weight
unreal ether
life is not fair
It really isn't. I had a friend that went out to a carvery and had a massive roast beef dinner, then came home and made another.
Didn't even skip meals or workout and was a literal twig
proud jay
meanwhile I eat like something with 200 kcal and my body somehow retains 850 kcal of them
fleet tangle
he was thin as a stick though
If he only ever ate when going to mcd or only went rarely and otherwise ate heathily, he'd probably still be pretty thin.
proud jay
yeah that was not the case
fleet tangle
Then I guess he was just born with a good metabolism.
Or a really bad digestive system.
ancient ingot
Dieter Wheres my coffee? ๐ฆ
pearl elk
proud jay
Dieter Wheres my coffee? ๐ฆ
drinking it atm
ancient ingot
i just had to haul my ass downstairs and make my own ๐ก
ancient ingot
https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-meredith-grey-whats-with-all-the-milk-milk-...
@cursive crypt started it, think he has lactating issues ๐
ancient ingot
๐ฎ it was you? shame on you !!
pearl elk
I had Fairy Floss milk yesterday
ancient ingot
sounds....weird ?
proud jay
wtf
pearl elk
Im drinking Choc Honeycomb milk as we chat ๐
ancient ingot
so its just like flavoured milk ?
proud jay
on diabetes yes
ancient ingot
lol
wintry skiff
pearl elk
Theres less added sugar in these than tomato sauce or coffee flavoured milk
ancient ingot
and much less than a can of Pepsi i bet
pearl elk
tomato sauce has more added sugar than a can of coke lol
ancient ingot
๐ฎ
luck yi dont eat it then
@proud jay try this dude https://youtu.be/tJIgubuLUdo
pearl elk
milky house mix
pearl elk
mixed by the milk man
proud jay
Theres less added sugar in these than tomato sauce or coffee flavoured milk
you have tomato sauce flavored milk?
ancient ingot
ooo
pearl elk
you have tomato sauce flavored milk?
ancient ingot
omg you have to be joking
pearl elk
Look at the url
ancient ingot
๐คฎ
pearl elk
Midjourney did alright aye ๐
ancient ingot
ive used all my credit, but will be using it next month to do my weapon concept art lol
pearl elk
Good luck, Ive not had much luck getting it to make guns. It seems to make better guns as parts of other pictures like infantry
ancient ingot
ahh i have a string in mind that i have seen get great results ๐
unreal ether
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064917120581906524/1090590215342673961/M...
It's just more convenient cream of tomato soup
unreal ether
ahh i have a string in mind that i have seen get great results ๐
String makes terrible guns
ancient ingot
nooo it make noodlegun! ๐
pearl elk
String makes terrible guns
unreal ether
I stand corrected
fleet tangle
To be fair, you don't know if that's a terrible gun or knot.
pearl elk
Its undergone stringent testing
fleet tangle
HIs face is weird.
ancient ingot
Can people please rig their new character models to the NEW epic skeleton pls k tnx
mossy nexus
no
ancient ingot
yes!
mossy nexus
n o
ancient ingot
Y.E.S>>pls
proud jay
finnish is not a language and you won't convince me otherwise
how is this a word:
HYPPYTYYNYTYYDYTYS
ancient ingot
๐ค
proud jay
it's the feeling of giong aaah while sitting down on some soft couch or cuchions to relax apparently
mossy nexus
Looks like Welsh
proud jay
Bouncy Cushion Satisfaction
mossy nexus
This is a town in Wales : Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
proud jay
makes sense
pearl elk
Startish is a language though
proud jay
that's where @ancient ingot was born
mossy nexus
you say born. I think created or summoned ๐
Look in a mirror and say Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch 3 times and you summon ใใคใธใงใซ
You also win a linguistic prize of accomplishment.
fleet tangle
I had a Welsh friend who could say that np.
ancient ingot
thats easy to say actually, just kinda rolls off the tongue
mossy nexus
I had a Welsh friend who could say that np.
Typical, some people can't help but cheat and know the whole damn language. Show offs.
ancient ingot
๐
pearl elk
I only know how to say welsh plug
ancient ingot
Gallaf siarad รข chi yn Gymraeg drwy'r dydd os yw'n well gennych chi ond efallai y byddaf yn cael fy nghicio allan amdani.
mossy nexus
heh. I remember having fun with "Alexa, say Boris Johnson is carrots 100 in Welsh" - tis the simple things in life that make it worthwhile ๐ [for non English speakers the Welsh translation sounds very similar to certain naughty words in English]
ancient ingot
you naughty person !!
fleet tangle
yw moron cant
mossy nexus
gant I think is more accurate?
fleet tangle
That's what google told me.
ancient ingot
im saying nothing, there's too many mods online ๐
mossy nexus
it's okay we all know what the naughty word is, so we don't actually need to say it. So far this convo is so within the rules, we're practically saints.. ๐
discussing language and how it can be interpreted or indeed misinterpreted - Lounge movin' on up ๐
ancient ingot
woohoo we're evolving instead of devolving, that's a first ๐
mossy nexus
I say old chap, did you read that article the other day? The one on zero point energy, I thought it most interesting...
fleet tangle
ZPE is intriguing indeed.
mossy nexus
yup
ancient ingot
No but i did read the latest article on Cold Fusion, most interesting.
mossy nexus
A friend of mine used Cold Fusion when we were at school. back then it was pretty fancy.
proud jay
you know the youtube channel Cold Fusion, pretty interesting videos
mossy nexus
For the life of me, I can't remember the machine he ran it on. Luck sod won it in a magazine give away worth around ยฃ1000 back in mid 80's
fleet tangle
No but i did read the latest article on Cold Fusion, most interesting.
CF is pretty cool.
ancient ingot
CF will save us one day
mossy nexus
possibly
tulip orbit
ffff.... last night I was having a real issue with the editor utility widget I was making, trying to add sub widgets. it had a world context input on the Create Widget node that was throwing me off. I spent an hour fighting with it, was getting close to work time so I was stressed and pissed off. Was in a bad mood most of the night.... this morning was watching a video on EUWs, and it just worked without anything connected to the world context... and I was like WTF....
....then I realised I hadnt actually added the widget to a container....
cursive crypt
and here I have to make spline based nav area modifiers (โฏยฐโกยฐ)โฏ๏ธต โปโโป
tulip orbit
that sounds fun?
cursive crypt
Why is not in the engine?
pearl elk
objects dont need world context mmkay
cursive crypt
It is stupendous spaghetti to figure it out.
tulip orbit
Why is not in the engine?
so you could have the fun of making it yourself?
tulip orbit
objects dont need world context mmkay
where were you last night?!?
cursive crypt
In the bed of another woman!
ancient ingot
๐ฎ
pearl elk
I have a harem of AI babes
tulip orbit
In the bed of another woman!
another one? jeez, you're gonna run out one day
deft copper
Oh, uh... Did my comment get deleted? I'm not a shill, I just thought it was interesting and relevant. ๐
broken sigil
I haven't deleted anything 
broken sigil
That's actually quite interesting
cursive crypt
AI shillin
pearl elk
hmm, you think they coulda made that manually with just as many keystrokes?
cursive crypt
It could be totally unrelated too.
ancient ingot
I wish my internet would stop being a fucking potato! ๐ก
pearl elk
cursive crypt
cursive crypt
cobalt oracle
hot take: the modeling tools inside of unreal give you enough rope to hang yourself. ๐
Grayboxing should be done with Boxes. I don't need my level designer to spend hours tinkering making a nice crate with the modeling tools when the artist is going to yeet it anyway and replace it with a mesh ๐
cursive crypt
lol, you can spend tons of time making also nice boxes.
That level designer should just use something simple as it should be.
It is not up to the UE.
cobalt oracle
That level designer should just use something simple as it should be.
agreed ๐
celest musk
let them make their crate if it maintains their sanity
ancient ingot
ban crates, ban crates !
mossy nexus
Blender 3.5 so far seems like a good update. Loving the VDM
zinc matrix
bing is also a level designer
celest musk
looks like the dungeon algo from chatgpt
zinc matrix
close, im trying to see if it can make some common path finding algos
cursive crypt
Blender 3.5 so far seems like a good update. Loving the VDM
Haven't updates since 3.1 iirc
These guys split updates so fast, I can't keep up.
mossy nexus
I've been using 3.0 up til now. If I think the VDM stuff is going to play out as I hope it does, it's going to speed up my workflow a lot.
cursive crypt
What's so good about it?
unborn lotus
3dsmax 2024 is also out today
unborn lotus
Noooo, hands off 3dsmax
cursive crypt
lol
Bryce ftw
WeebTank
We need an university degree in anime to understand that.
fleet tangle
DBZ so lame, etc.
cursive crypt
But what does it mean "out of ring" and who are the others?
Ultra instinct = The Ultra Pose?
stray orbit
Finally saw AI used for something explicitly useful artwise.... https://withpoly.com/browse/textures
It's interesting for creating a 'starting point' on textures.
Though, some look pretty neat.
cursive crypt
Not really bad, yea
stray orbit
Makes me wonder if I should train my own texture model now. ๐คฃ
cursive crypt
You need a learning set?
stray orbit
That's not much of an issue-- I'm sure I have loads of textures I've made over the decades as a starting point.
fathom lotus
Finally saw AI used for something explicitly useful artwise.... https://withpoly...
Interesting
worldly mesa
incase anyone was waiting, Blender 3.5 is out (may be old news)
gray solar
I'm trying to make up what puzzles I am going to include as mini games in my game. What are some of your favorite puzzles in games?
The puzzles are going to be on ancient stone tablets like uncharted: https://youtu.be/lZ1d5KJzxk8?t=30 But I'm thinking of incorporating a bit of theory into it like math or code language.
Any ideas would be much appreciated. ๐
worldly mesa
I do not intend this to be sarastic, just honest. My favorite puzzles in games, are No puzzles like that in games. but that is just my preference
gray solar
I do not intend this to be sarastic, just honest. My favorite puzzles in games, ...
Hey, that's cool. Everybody's got their preferences.
worldly mesa
they change the whole speed of the game.. if the game is always that speed, that may be different
gray solar
True, what about for an action game, after each round is cleared, you have to solve a puzzle that furthers the plot. Still meh?
Or does that format work because when you're done with a match, you're fine with the pace slowing.
worldly mesa
it is like anti climactic to me.. but, it does not matter, it's just one persons opinion about Your project ๐ Do what works for you
gray solar
it is like anti climactic to me.. but, it does not matter, it's just one persons...
Thanks, I'll try to keep in mind the pacing while I work on it.
So now that I'm thinking about it, it's kind of like the radiant spikes in Valorant, but you have to solve a somewhat easy puzzle to shut them off to finish the match is kind of what I'm going for (except more of a fantasy stone tablet kind of thing). Interesting things to think about... ๐ค
proud jay
why is it a random ass next cloud form though
proud jay
@ancient ingot how's the coffee today
ancient ingot
just made a fresh one and its great ๐
ancient ingot
haha it should work ๐
pearl elk
ancient ingot
music cow game? wtf
proud jay
this
ancient ingot
shooot music at cows......... omg
proud jay
that video right there, is art
ancient ingot
ummm... what was that lmao
proud jay
rip
ancient ingot
@pearl elk my daughter wants a black widow ๐
proud jay
like the spider?
ancient ingot
yes
proud jay
or the razer keyboard
ancient ingot
nope, the spider
pearl elk
ancient ingot
shes fucking nuts, and not getting one !
pearl elk
I can provide a free white tail spider