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warm bloom
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though replacing cmake would be nice

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anyone else stuck in an eternal limbo waiting for epic games to release cool new features to unreal engine?

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everytime I think I'll work on something I'm just like

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maybe I'll wait to see what ue 5.x version has

cursive crypt
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5.2 should come soon

broken sigil
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Yeah exactly

mighty thorn
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which thread(s) are best for chatting with folks & getting help about specific things?

cursive crypt
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Albeit, I have seen anyone asking for help there.

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Missed opportunity.

cursive crypt
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f my life, implementing a flat map for Nth time in my life ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

fleet tangle
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Say no to flat maps. Say yes to flat whites.

subtle hatch
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Any youngsters benefiting from Biden's Student Loan forgiveness plan ?

zinc matrix
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real maps have curves

broken sigil
pearl elk
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so bmake?

broken sigil
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BM-ake ๐Ÿ˜…

pearl elk
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self publishing on Epic Store aye

broken sigil
broken sigil
cursive crypt
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BM is having fun.

broken sigil
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All hail the cube lol

pearl elk
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Is this ML powered bot?

broken sigil
pearl elk
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so it has a memory by the looks and you've asked it to be a religious zealot ๐Ÿ˜›

broken sigil
pearl elk
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have you tried making it able to have conversations between two gpt bots? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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like one is cube entity the other could be a philosopher posing the big existential questions

broken sigil
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I got it to argue with itself but disabled that since it's basically finitely replying to itself lol

zinc matrix
broken sigil
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lol

pearl elk
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Put spherify modifier on the cube ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

stray orbit
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Someone posted an ASMR C++ Tutorial in my discord and now I feel like I've made the wrong choices in life.

pearl elk
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Compile me.... slowly

cursive crypt
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asmr?

zinc matrix
oblique cloak
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whats a good ai image generator that you send a pic with a comment and it generates it

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the new southpark episode is about chatGPT lol

fleet tangle
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Man I haven't watched SP in ages.

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Ever since the covid episodes.

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They cost money on amazon prime.

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Fucking amazon prime.

proud jay
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isn't it free on adultswim?

celest musk
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nice, got an email from Epic regarding the Magic & Spell Sounds IP violation thing

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at least they notified us a month after ๐Ÿ™‚

soft night
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what you like union types on programing language?

proud jay
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you pose the question in a confusing way

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you mean "what? you like union types in programming languages?"

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or lie "what do you like about union types in programming languages?"

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or like "Who of you likes union types in programming languages?"

zinc matrix
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bom bom bom bom tomatoes onions

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i like onions. they are handy.

soft night
crimson nova
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What is good fellas!

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Am I the only one who thinks Unity is ๐Ÿ‘Ž

zinc matrix
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most games i play, are made in unity, so i dont think its bad ๐Ÿ™‚

tiny gazelle
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f

pearl elk
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Its not the size of your engine, its how you use it... or somethin

fallow harness
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Is it rude to jump into some of the streams in the VC's just because i think it looks interesting? or is this frowned upon and should ask first?

zinc matrix
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no. those are public channels. some might even like it if you tell it looks interesting

broken sigil
broken sigil
fallow harness
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copy, thanks for the insight

broken sigil
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Just keep it professional

tulip orbit
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thats asking a lot

trail wedge
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trail wedge
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eww UMG and WMG blocked embeds on both of ours

tulip orbit
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booo

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mines worth clicking tho ๐Ÿ™‚

trail wedge
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yeh I've heard it before lol

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mines very different but I like lots of different music genres

tulip orbit
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same, your link wasnt my style tho ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

wet raven
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can someone send me the best free c++ and blueprinting tutorial for beginner for game devolopping

celest musk
wet raven
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thats for engine 4 tho

celest musk
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most things still apply

cloud crescent
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i got a couple friends i want to start collaborating with and was wondering if multi user editing allows us to like save bps and all the changed stuff. i watched some videos and people are saying different stuff so just asking here instead

worldly mesa
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I have come to the conclusion that chatgpt is not a test of an AI, it is a test of human patience and endurance.

celest musk
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nice :>

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the guy with the smol 32GB line trace data table will like this

warm bloom
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that's cool

proud jay
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you're cool

cursive crypt
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I'm cool.

proud jay
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thanks

soft night
cursive crypt
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Cool as cool is an unpowered CPU.

soft night
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those tracks are made by man and a dog

cursive crypt
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Adventures were waiting for them.

soft night
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oh yeah that magic & Spell sounds pro product email i got that too sure like most who have get free assets

cursive crypt
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Who was that anyway? Good they got them tho.

pearl elk
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Woohoo, planetary system gen is a go

warm bloom
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it will be like real life

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we are all alone

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

pearl elk
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yeah I quickly found generating realistic solar systems is depressing

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Red dwarfs seem to be the least depressing, I can fly to each planet and on terrestrial ones load a land map which uses the same colours as the planets exterior

warm bloom
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all procedural?

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hmm

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no man's sky

pearl elk
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nah not all procedural, the system is generated though

warm bloom
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fair

pearl elk
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definitely not doing procedural aliens lol

warm bloom
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that shits so crazy lol

pearl elk
warm bloom
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I played that game

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and every system I found

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and every planet I found

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was called egg

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it's all egg

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๐Ÿฅš

pearl elk
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identifying aliens is probably the most boring part

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I stopped playing shortly after they patched the crazy hard raiders

warm bloom
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I think the most boring part is even with the update

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it just doesn't feel like any of the planets are living

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the towns and all

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that's my own issue though

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I cant complain about hello games

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they're a good company

pearl elk
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Yeah most studios woulda released 5 sequels by now and ended support for the first 2-3 games

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They are winding down on NMS abit though, I read in an interview they have a core team working on other things

warm bloom
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that's fair enough

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they fulfilled what the game was supposed to be and added more content

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I hope they make another space game

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I hope they make space engineers #2

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I fucking want space engineers but fully procedural

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๐Ÿ—ฟ

pearl elk
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One thing I really like too is they made it cheap initially then upped the price as it got larger rather than the reverse. It kinda sucks when youre loyal and buy it early but youre the one who gets shafted on price

warm bloom
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yeah rust did the same thing tbh

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I always like games that do like sales first two weeks

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etc

pearl elk
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Much better than DLC IMO, not that I have anything against DLC, I just like when the core game gets expanded

warm bloom
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no early access game should cost $60 either

warm bloom
pearl elk
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big publishers be charging $80-95 for 6 year old games atm lol

proud jay
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damn who

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that's sad

warm bloom
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dlcs should be like $5-10 though

pearl elk
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Thats dollarydoos mind you

proud jay
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Blizzard is getting desparate, it's giving me free lvl60 character boost and free access to the new expansion

warm bloom
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hmm online games cost so much money to run tbh

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if they aren't constantly bringing in money

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they're gonna look bad especially for investors etc

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even if they could last 10 years or smth

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blizzard games are ass tho

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I haven't been that excited about many games lately

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I guess I'm looking forward to dead island 2

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payday 3 and stalker 2

soft night
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happy Mar10 day

proud jay
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bruh ffs

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fucking government bodies

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they were supposed to hook up the water in the house we're moving to today, of course they are fucking striking today

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this appointment was made fucking 2 months ago

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and I can't wait another fucking 2 months cause our lease here ends by the end of next month

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really fuck these fucking shitty dumbass motherfuckers striking for no reason at all hurting their customers instead of their company

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shitfaced cunts

soft night
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may this Mar10 wargaming helps

proud jay
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can't even move in without water, cause they need to install floor heating before they can lay the floor

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an can't test the floor heating without water

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so there is no floor

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fuck sake

warm bloom
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it's time to take out a trusty tarp

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and a hammock

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and live your life in luxury

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between two trees

proud jay
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yeah I don't find being homeless that funny tbh

soft night
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when strikes happen on not best time

warm bloom
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the fuck

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That's the problem with any strike though usually doesn't even hurt the right people

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fuck the government

zinc matrix
warm bloom
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delete it

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ai was a bad idea

mossy nexus
soft night
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even SAM is better at jokes

zinc matrix
primal summit
# mossy nexus

frankly, many people don't know how to be funny either...

ancient ingot
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๐Ÿฅณ

proud jay
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why you partying

ancient ingot
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ignore me, too many drugs

proud jay
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old news

warm bloom
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its scary that epic is that in need of $100

ancient ingot
proud jay
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steam also asks it

warm bloom
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no tim sweeney is down to his last dollar

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he is broke

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this is his get rich quick scheme

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๐Ÿ—ฟ

zinc matrix
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i don't get it when the ceo of Epic Games didn't dev a single game with his name on it

ancient ingot
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๐Ÿค”

cursive crypt
mighty thorn
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I'm pretty new to this discord, why are there several people live in the voice channels? Is it "everyone's working on their own thing, and can help others with the stuff they're working on"?

proud jay
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people just chilling

cursive crypt
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Nah, it is more like "Look at me"

proud jay
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what do you expect

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people like attention

ancient ingot
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Sweeney lives in Cary, North Carolina.[3] According to Forbes, as of May 2022, he has a net worth of $7.6 billion.[3] However, Bloomberg estimates his wealth at $9.6 billion.[19]

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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

cursive crypt
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If I had those money, I would hire a dev to fix the Launcher.

ancient ingot
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Hey Tim you couldn't lend me $20 could ya? ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
ancient ingot
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i think Tim understands well enough

zinc matrix
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serious question

ancient ingot
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cause its his fucking engine thats why ๐Ÿ˜‚

zinc matrix
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but he didn't make it, he just own it

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that is different

ancient ingot
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omg are you for real

sweet rose
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when most industries are dependent on AI, they will keep increasing their prices and have ultimate leverage over everything

zinc matrix
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OpenAI doesn't own AI, in fact you can make your AI at home if you can

sweet rose
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wait and watch

cursive crypt
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Hype train

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Tim has coded the engine. Therefore, you can say he was a dev in all them UE games.

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Not sure how much code is left from back then, but at least we can thank him the axis mumbo-jumbo.

warm bloom
warm bloom
warm bloom
warm bloom
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though from my experience within the space of hosting AI models

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it is fairly expensive to continually run them

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thats not even getting into bandwidth costs etc

ancient ingot
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ec2 would be super expensive, Oracle cloud would be a better bet, or even IBM

soft night
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seems you want to know Karpenter

proud jay
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at least originally

soft night
zinc matrix
# proud jay at least originally

"People don't realise this but we're already two years into development of Unreal Engine 4. It certainly doesn't have a full team yet, it's just one guy and you can probably guess who that guy is," Seems like he did something in more recently too.

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we could ask from chatgpt to be sure ๐Ÿ™‚

warm bloom
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i think the cheapest is lambda labs

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but they don't want people using them for a service

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i think google cloud is actually cheaper than all of them if you use spot instances

soft night
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you oculd have localcluster

pearl elk
cursive crypt
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Gotta inherit from USaveGame

pearl elk
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still wont serialize an object reference, be an FStruct not a UObject ๐Ÿ˜›

cursive crypt
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Nullptrs be praised

pearl elk
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the cube entity approves of null peters

sweet rose
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Anybody online

timber viper
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no

sweet rose
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Okay

pearl elk
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Only AI online

sweet rose
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OpenDieter

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Open Dieter

fleet tangle
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Blood spills out

turbid spindleBOT
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:question: is Dieter an AI?
:8ball: Yes.

zinc matrix
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Itโ€™s Chuck Norrisโ€™s birthday pay your respects by reciting well known Chuck Norris facts

pearl elk
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Its a well known fact that Chuck Norris wasnt born he was forged in the fires of Mount Vesuvius

zinc matrix
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Itโ€™s true

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God may have made the universe but Chuck Norris did everything else

oblique cloak
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I feel like i have not heard a chuck norris joke sense 2012

timber viper
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sadly I have friends who likes to make dad jokes

zinc matrix
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whats wrong with dad jokes?? those are the best jokes..

timber viper
zinc matrix
broken sigil
primal summit
worldly mesa
broken sigil
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Probably the most impressive result I got with it

regal pecan
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did it throw the capitalized H in there for no reason?

broken sigil
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Oh yeah it did

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Still pretty interesting that it can encode with specific encoding and concert back

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I reset its memory so it doesn't remember what it encoded

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So it was converting the binary

zinc matrix
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its using rust? take it down!

broken sigil
regal pecan
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I'm expecting that this sort of thing isn't totally the ai and there's some conventional programming to help parse certain inputs. Although the random H (and its inability to handle math) make me less than totally certain.

broken sigil
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Lol this is kinda cool

regal pecan
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for once you've come up with something I'd want to use chat gpt for

broken sigil
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It's using their gpt3.5-turbo, think it's the same model as what chatgpt uses

tulip orbit
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Why can I never seem to load the sample maps from marketplace packs?

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sheesh, just took a looong time to load

cursive crypt
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Weird, usually they load here. It just takes time, shaders.

zinc matrix
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Dude i just finished El Camino. I was expecting 6 seasons of Jesse Pinkman but it only have 1 episode of 2 hours wtf!?
That is BS from the Breaking Bad franchise which had 6 seasons of Better call Saul.

unborn lotus
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The tag line is "a breaking bad movie" lol

zinc matrix
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that is so goddamn disapointing bro

warm bloom
zinc matrix
cursive crypt
turbid spindleBOT
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:question: is blue manny ai?
:8ball: Outlook good.

soft night
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some say mons have made cool looking space for the solarsystem

cursive crypt
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Mons working for SpaceY

turbid spindleBOT
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:question: Why the fuck is tax so fucking annoying and complicated
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again.

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:question: why i have no girlfriend?
:8ball: Outlook good.

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:question: does Mons work for SpaceCalamari?
:8ball: Better not tell you now.

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:question: will my headache go away
:8ball: Outlook not so good.

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:question: will headache go away when you think about it?
:8ball: You may rely on it.

turbid spindleBOT
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:question: Are operator precedence warnings treated as errors, damn stupid?
:8ball: Ask again later.

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:question: Am I dumb to ignore that warning?
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again.

plush mason
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The virtual heightfield is such a troll feature, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This was looking like a bunch of low res islands 2 min ago, I don't know what I did but they are fine now

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Xd

pearl elk
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Hmm, definitely not terrible

pearl elk
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looks like there will be lots of purple planets

warm bloom
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add some orange in there or something

pearl elk
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These are all cool colour palettes, more oranges in the warm colour generation

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I do it that way so I can pick warm or cool for gas vs ice giants

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Not sure how Im gonna do the terrestrial palettes, its going to be tricky

soft night
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galaxy of purple planets

pearl elk
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Well thats interesting, I might have found a bug in the engine ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

warm bloom
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tim sweeney lost his edge

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finally planned out the full functionality of the database I'm try making

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At least things relating to b-trees and radix trees are good resume material

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๐Ÿ—ฟ

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my priority for projects is so backwards

pearl elk
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false alarm, its my edge thats been lost ๐Ÿ˜›

fleet tangle
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Mario blood bowl.

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Now that'd be fun.

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The ball is a mushroom.

ancient ingot
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is the engine stable in linux atm ?

fleet tangle
ancient ingot
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good point lmao

fleet tangle
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Watches the tumbleweed drift lazily by

ancient ingot
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@pearl elk ๐Ÿ˜„

broken sigil
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I'm getting roasted by a cube lmao

soft night
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are you getting roasted like Michael Scott roast Me characters?

zinc matrix
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UE roasting my meshes ๐Ÿฅฒ

timber viper
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no more paying for duolingo

soft night
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i seems to got access to new bing

carmine frigate
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ask it if Y is up or Z is down ๐Ÿ™‚

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if Y is up, can Z be down?

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also if he gets to be a character in a game would he want it to be an unreal or unity game? ๐Ÿ˜›

worldly mesa
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Is anyone else limited to chatgpt sending only about 100 lines of code before it truncates, and you have to ask it to continue from where it failed?

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Is there an official chatgpt discord? I cannot find it

zinc matrix
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yea, it gets tired after a while

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i wonder if this a typo or real thing? sounds eggcellent.

worldly mesa
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Pretty sure the limit is fully intentional. Can't have the AI making us Noobs actually create something

zinc matrix
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you can ask it to show only certain function again

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last time i tried it with chatgpt, it worked fine

broken sigil
carmine frigate
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ur fuct

warm bloom
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I found out that if you aren't asking chatgpt to actually write code

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but instead asking questions

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related to certain subjects it's actually pretty useful

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some of the shit I wanna know only has articles and paper from like 2010

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and it just summarizes shit for me

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way easier to digest

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though it is still pretty fucking stupid

broken sigil
warm bloom
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it went on a tangent about him copy and pasting

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and kept roasting him

broken sigil
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lmao

zinc matrix
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its pretty good for searching algos and explaining them, but its horrible at math. which is super weird.

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one thing where computers are supposed to be good, it fails. like, really?

carmine frigate
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we all know that allmost retarded person that talks about anything like he knows everything

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thats chatGP

warm bloom
carmine frigate
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I knew a real person thats exactly like chatGP

warm bloom
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though you could ask it a general question

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and it will be like

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it's not good for every use case

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next question

broken sigil
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it is legit making my stomach hurt from laughing

warm bloom
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nope not for every use case

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next thing is like it may not be good for this use case

carmine frigate
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he would take my story about something that i told him i seen ages ago and tell me the same story a week later that happened to him

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he was broken as fuc

warm bloom
warm bloom
broken sigil
warm bloom
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ahh turbo

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any issues with that

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?

broken sigil
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works great, had no issues with it

warm bloom
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also I think one of the more recent updates to chatgpt

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lol was to make it better at math

carmine frigate
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ive seen too much post lately that have chatgp confirm their cult like tinfoil shit

warm bloom
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yeah people are breaking chatgpt

carmine frigate
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nah chatgpt likes to agree with ppl

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ppl take it too serious

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like most text on the internet btw

warm bloom
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I disagree

worldly mesa
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It should be open in the sense that we can see where the data that lead to the conclusions came from, but closed in the sense that not every joe blow should be able to change/corrupt it

carmine frigate
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its like : carots are good for the eyes

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its true until you know where it com es from

broken sigil
worldly mesa
warm bloom
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the problem is I think chatgpt combines multiple sources

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it's a language model it ain't no google web scraping summary

zinc matrix
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bing combines too, but it gives you reference list like wikipedia does. so you can check them

warm bloom
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potty humor

broken sigil
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I'm trying to comply with openai's usage policy over here ๐Ÿ˜…

carmine frigate
warm bloom
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ahh yeah you're using their API aren't you lol

broken sigil
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still don't have a 128GB GPU to run it locally ๐Ÿ˜…

broken sigil
warm bloom
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the only reason they offer it so cheaply is it's helping them improve

carmine frigate
warm bloom
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you're the dataset

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also

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more like 360gb

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it would cost probably like $30 an hour to run it if it was open source lol

carmine frigate
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lets just stick too the basics and a cube has 6 sides including the inside? ๐Ÿ˜›

broken sigil
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I absolutely love it lol

carmine frigate
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from what i know a cube has 6 sides... and the inside would be 7

broken sigil
carmine frigate
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or it could have 6 insides and 6 outsides

broken sigil
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It just keeps roasting me lol

carmine frigate
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it could also have outsides of the insides and insides of the outides

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+1 extra inside

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becouse an inside is not really a side

broken sigil
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lol

carmine frigate
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basically you have 6 to the power of infinite +1

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a cube has a lot of sides

cursive crypt
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gosh, that gpt again ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

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But on other hand, there is nothing else interesting gong on I guess ๐Ÿค”

carmine frigate
#

there is basically WW3 and banks defaulting

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wouldnt call it that interesting..... buts its going on

worldly mesa
#

Seems pretty strategic that the A.I only has older info. nothing recent in terms of politics

cursive crypt
#

I wouldn't say exactly ww3, but yeah. You mean global economic crisis too.

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When aliens?

carmine frigate
#

well james webb just got put up there.... but other things stealin its thunder

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like chatgpt saying dumb shit about james webb

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yea googles chat AI saying dumb shit about the telescope was bigger news than humans putting it in space ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
#

idk why its trending again

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maybe because of the balloons they shot down? who knows

cursive crypt
warm bloom
#

chat gpt be like

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"I apologize if my previous apologies have caused any offense. I understand that you would prefer me not to apologize"

pearl elk
#

Remember to count its fingers if it asks to shake hands

cursive crypt
#

Mooooods @

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On other hand, what kind of an installer decides to unpack onto my external hdd, thus blocking everything. Can't even restart windows.

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(โ•ฏยฐโ–กยฐ)โ•ฏ๏ธต โ”ปโ”โ”ป

pearl elk
#

Im asking myself why I have to do this junk

cursive crypt
#

What were you expecting? It has blue boxes.

pearl elk
#

Doesnt matter what it looks like, you cant work around it in C++ either without rewriting core classes

cursive crypt
#

Wait, work around what?

pearl elk
#

See how Im unrolling the loop manually?

#

thats because Material Parameter Collections only take names, you cant pass arrays

#

The collection has to be an object created in the editor, cant do it programmatically because its hard wired to the material node

cursive crypt
#

It is how it is with the Dyn materials tho, no?

pearl elk
#

Dynamic Material Instances are alittle better, still set via name but you can atleast do those programatically

#

Cant use those on Landscape though, I tried

cursive crypt
#

Uhmm... I dunno, haven't digged into mat param collections. Looks pretty average for UE to set them one by one.

pearl elk
#

tbh the material editor is really showing its age these days

cursive crypt
#

What do you want to change? I may know Santa.

pearl elk
#

Id love curve support in there

cursive crypt
#

Well, you can send that wish yourself.

pearl elk
#

Im considering doing it myself dont worry lol

cursive crypt
#

Impressive, adding nodes to the Material editor.

pearl elk
#

atm Im generating an array of linear colors but Id much prefer to use a curve

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I can write the code to turn an array of colors to a curve but theres no way to use them in materials

cursive crypt
#

ofc, the biggest issue is there, lol

pearl elk
#

Id only need to pass a float for the time value then

#

its a gradient if I slide along the float to each key, much nicer than messing with arrays

cursive crypt
#

Can't you fancy lerp that instead?

pearl elk
#

Looks like I can use a Curve Atlas

#

But those only work for Dynamic Materials, which isnt terrible. Just odd that theres so many different workflows depending on what youre doing, doesnt feel cohesive at all

#

That doesnt let me use the entire gradient at once by the look either, I can only use color at time

#

I wanna use the curve for the bars on gas and ice giants

cursive crypt
#

Well, there you go. Curves in materials. Told you I know Santa.

pearl elk
#

Yeah saves me passing colors individually and replaces it with the need to pass floats lol

#

atleast I can convert an index to float if I keep all the keys on int values

#

very counterintuitive especially for whats considered a state of the art piece of software ๐Ÿ˜›

cursive crypt
#

Well, it is an Art friendly, not artist friendly.

pearl elk
#

Art the clown

bronze axle
#

Hello, lounge. ๐Ÿ‘‹

pearl elk
#

Sup

bronze axle
#

Eating pizza and porting a project to UE5.

#

You?

cursive crypt
#

Making a cow go for water ๐Ÿ’ช

bronze axle
#

Ah. Normal way to spend your Saturday.

pearl elk
#

Im just working on my new UE5 project, basking in the ease of AngelScriptness

cursive crypt
#

Bless ya

bronze axle
cursive crypt
#

5.2. should be around the corner, maybe don't hurry upgrading btw. Who know what they will change. Again.

bronze axle
#

Upgrades have been easy for my so far, so I'm not worried.

#

And yes, 5.2 is around the corner. I expect the first preview around GDC.

cursive crypt
#

My bet too.

pearl elk
#

Curious about what sort of features will be in it, maybe just refinements

bronze axle
#

Not just refinements.

#

Looks to be a significant release.

pearl elk
#

New Material Editor... lol doubtful

bronze axle
#

Some of the GDC talks revolve around it.

cursive crypt
#

Strata ๐Ÿค”

bronze axle
#

There's a talk scheduled called "The future of materials in UE5"

pearl elk
#

Maybe they are looking to upgrade at some point, its one of the older parts of the engine now

tulip orbit
#

removal of material editor, we will have to set each pixel individually via for loop

bronze axle
#

Ohhh the talk descriptions are up now.

pearl elk
#

Well that was a given

bronze axle
#

This talk will introduce programmers to Verse, a new programming language that will initially be launched for Fortnite and later rolled out to other Epic toolsโ€“and beyond.

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Finally talking about it properly.

cursive crypt
#

lol, Verse shoved straight my face

#

Ah, wait, that this section. I thought this was the front page.

bronze axle
#

No, this is an info page just for that talk.

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New Tools for Building Photoreal Worlds in Unreal Engine 5.2

In this tech talk, we'll take a deep dive into some of the powerful new features and updates in Unreal Engine 5.2. Come learn about new tools that empower artists to quickly and efficiently create large worlds; a paradigm-shifting material authoring system that enables users to focus on how a material is composed, assembled, and layered from slabs of matter to achieve visuals not possible before in real time; and the latest additions to Chaos physics for vehicle and fluid simulationโ€”all showcased in a demo you won't want to miss.

cursive crypt
#

I knew it. Strata.

bronze axle
#

Most likely.

#

I think 5.1 has experimental support for Strata, so they've been building towards it.

cursive crypt
#

Then the other is Chaos. Physics is always welcome. Fluid sims... hmmm...

bronze axle
#

"Paradigm-shifting" is a pretty significant term to use, though. Interested to see what it's like.

#

Maybe the material editor gets a revamp along with this.

#

I'd love to see all the other node graphs adapt the look and feel of MetaSounds. Love that vibe.

tulip orbit
#

I've skimmed over what strata is and I still dont understand

pearl elk
#

Honestly I do get alittle envious sometimes when I see someone has better node based tools than we got on UE

fervent wagon
cursive crypt
#

So on Epic@GDC: Fortnite tools, Autodesk USD, Niagara, Green energy (lol), UE in nutshell, New world tools (?), Fortnite again, EGS, Metahuman and Machine learning ๐Ÿค” , EOS, Verse, Houdini

bronze axle
pearl elk
#

Strata is only a backend shading thing not so much the frontend material editor

tulip orbit
#

I'm still barely touching any of the new features for ue5, other than nanite/lumen (cause they were easy to implement)

bronze axle
tulip orbit
#

I just skimmed that! I'm still lost. But I'm not great with materials currently either so

#

smarter/more awake people will understand I'm sure

bronze axle
#

Apparently there's a sample level in Content Examples that requires 5.1.1

tulip orbit
#

yeah, theres a strata example map

worldly mesa
#

VS to Github appears to be a blind dump. I had the firewall block it, and it returned success

tulip orbit
#

๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ Spend 30min trying to figure out why my NPC couldnt get thru a door and was walking around all over the place in random directions, only generally heading towards its actual task. Turns out the static mesh I put on its head temporarily to differentiate it was blocking navigation around it

cursive crypt
#

lmao

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Big head, can't pass

#

Wait, what kind of a mesh? ๐Ÿ˜

tulip orbit
#

Starter content mohawk

cursive crypt
#

This rises even more questions, but I will pretend.

tulip orbit
#

I dont have character meshes yet, so gotta make do ๐Ÿ™‚

carmine frigate
#

that looks like flipped normals

tulip orbit
#

? just the lighting maybe?

zinc matrix
#

Bro finally my minimum spanning tree working after 7 days of trying

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*wipe tears

tulip orbit
#

I have no idea what I'm looking at?

cursive crypt
#

Nobody does, but it does not matter.

zinc matrix
#

im guessing its gonna be some sort of dungeon generator(?)

cursive crypt
#

There is a theory that world is dodo-blah-blah-hedron.

cursive crypt
tulip orbit
#
  1. ryobg $0.50
cursive crypt
#

You are close. Zero.

#

Anyway, rip Roblox

warm bloom
#

@cursive crypt what is this relating too i saw something mentioning said bank earlier but didnt read

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give me some bite sized news

#

you're blue balling #lounge participators

#

nvm read about it

#

everyone involved is stupid it seems

timber viper
#

I will never understand boomer generation

#

Why tf a language like this not copy stdvector

carmine frigate
broken sigil
pearl elk
#

boomer?

warm bloom
pearl elk
#

Mate Im a millennial and going grey, people gonna be using the word boomer when they all in the dirt

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bZoomer

warm bloom
#

I more use the word boomer towards people who are stuck with past preconceptions and ideologies for how things should and do work

pearl elk
#

funny considering we havent been to the moon since boomers took us there

warm bloom
#

unfortunately I do not make those decisions

pearl elk
#

now we just launch our deconstructed coffees at Mars while sipping chai boba lattes and labelling everything we dont understand as boomer

warm bloom
#

our government is majority lobbied representatives who care more for profits and gains for their funding corporations than the american peoples wishes

pearl elk
#

isnt that the whole point of "The American Dream(tm)"

cursive crypt
warm bloom
#

yeah well people are so stuck up with capitalist ideals they're blinded by their shitty living conditions and ever worsening corporate slavery that continues to line the pockets of people with more money than they know what to do with

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maybe they visit particular islands though who knows

slim atlas
#

a story with 1 act.

pearl elk
#

every now and then I end up in this strange place

#

Gabe Newell is a boomer btw

ancient ingot
#

i'm a boomer , technically

cursive crypt
#

So that cute bunny was all a lie?

warm bloom
#

techno

ancient ingot
#

\o/

pearl elk
#

cant believe I had to make a noise material function

cursive crypt
#

#MeToo

pearl elk
#

All this just to use the noise node

ancient ingot
#

jeeez dude

#

ive been setting up linux toolchain, as much fun as choking on a chicken :/

pearl elk
#

not a fan? lol

ancient ingot
#

hate chickens ๐Ÿ˜›

#

did you buy Lightfall ??

pearl elk
#

nope

ancient ingot
#

tut tut

pearl elk
#

I got Atomic Heart and Sons of the Borest instead ๐Ÿ˜›

ancient ingot
#

lol fair enough

soft night
#

some say bots I say

zinc matrix
#

nice snow shader

mossy nexus
fluid bloom
pearl elk
#

Oh and this whole thing is a material function

mossy nexus
#

Indeed.

#

projects the noise into 3D space using either world or local position, controlled via min/max, I think?

pearl elk
#

yup and there is the seed which allows me to phase the noise if I input a time

mossy nexus
#

what's the intended end use?

pearl elk
#

its used in place of just the flat noise

#

its basically just a copy of the 3dsmax noise map functionality

#

that has all the UV, phasing etc inbuilt

mossy nexus
#

I was going to ask that earlier when you compared it to the 3dsmax type, how compact are their node systems but you've answered it ๐Ÿ™‚ I've noticed a lot of software has similar functionality. Doing the hard work behind the scenes as it were

pearl elk
#

This one is WIP, still not happy with the glow on the edges but Im moving away from texture samplers to noise. The noise gives me really nice sun spots tbh

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I was having issues with samplers where when Id scale Id get seams, I could bake out smaller scale noise but the phasing is quite nice for that gaseous turbulence I'll need for stars, gas/ice giants etc

mossy nexus
#

Show a friend a bit of my landscape BPs which he didn't understand of course commenting "that looks like a lot of work just to do .." but as you are well aware much of BP stull is add, multiply, etc.etc. not exactly rocket science. Unfortunately he can't separate what he thinks he's seeing to what the engine is actually telling him ๐Ÿ˜„

mossy nexus
#

Take it you're using a fresnel somewhere in there for the edge glows?

pearl elk
#

Youre right though, many shader apps tend to just put all this into a map node keeping all the nuances behind the scenes. UE does have different levels of materials though whether youre working with layers, blends etc or the more expression type stuff

#

I feel like Epic would do good to try to improve the UX abit so its more inline, its not bad just feels kinda dated. Ive seen node editors which allow you to edit curves, gradients, etc directly in the nodes

#

Almost like a BP prototype version from pre UE4 lol

mossy nexus
#

Well don't worry 5.2 is going to be adding a load of material like stuff. Maybe something good, useful, and stable will appear ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
#

I doubt it'll be anything on the level I hope for but Im not that fussy, I know Niagara took a hell of a long time but its insane how techy that is. Feels like BP++

#

I think part of the issue is the way we make software in general, we have contexts for functionality. Oh this function is for Audio, for Particles, Materials or Gameplay when you've duplicated the same functionality just because the terminology is different between fields

mossy nexus
#

strata seems to be flavour of the month, with some interesting wording describing it.

pearl elk
#

Like why the vector struct node cant be used in materials I dunno

mossy nexus
#

I cannot say I am familiar with that node

warm bloom
#

I'm debating using hashmaps or nested arrays

#

I think I might just use nested arrays with the depth of 1 to save memory

#

arrays are contiguous anyway

warm bloom
pearl elk
#

You cant see em that great in the pic tbh, they phase in and out

tulip orbit
snow badge
#

what the hell is the default texture a picture of, does anyone know?

pearl elk
#

Its moon cheese

snow badge
#

rly?

tulip orbit
#

I thought it was something they found under the sink

snow badge
#

haha i'd believe it

tulip orbit
#

I'm sure I've got a few piles of whatever that is growing around my kitchen

sweet rose
snow badge
sweet rose
#

with the way gen z is turning out to be i wonder if there are going to be any technological advancements

#

in the far future when all the boomers and gen x ers are dead

#

there's nothing wrong with being artistic

#

but somebody's gotta make the boring stuff

warm bloom
#

RND costs a lot of money

pearl elk
#

Im gonna be buried with all my in-game cosmetics

tulip orbit
#

Your game is about makeup?

sweet rose
#

in a few decades humans might hit a technological dead end

#

or a plateau

tulip orbit
sweet rose
#

100% botox

cursive crypt
#

I too gonna boast, as I just did my EQS for water bodies. With a pre-built step, for the time of a standard single sphere sweep, I can fetch 1k+ points in a radius of 1 km.

tulip orbit
#

to what end tho? why do you need all those points?

cursive crypt
#

I need only few of them, it was a stress test.

pearl elk
#

hmm I didnt consider using EQS for my spatial querying, dunno why lol

cursive crypt
#

I still don't know at which point it executes, I'm having the feeling it is between the actor ticks.

#

i.e. a bit more performant that your BP/get-me-now-a-result trace.

pearl elk
#

Well you'd like to think so wouldnt you but its tricky to know the way "its meant to be used(tm)"

cursive crypt
#

Even worse, what was meant, may not correspond to what is happening.

pearl elk
#

I think thats why its important to understand those intentions so its easier to test to see if expectations match the reality ๐Ÿ˜›

sweet rose
zinc matrix
warm bloom
#

how cuteee

#

that one's so fat it wouldn't be able to maul my face off

pearl elk
# tulip orbit seems a little bright ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Just the exposure settings, its actually 100x that ๐Ÿ˜† kinda tricky to do this sort of material because of auto exposure. Even when I turn it off its not right because using preview at node doesnt show the total contribution to the overall material

broken sigil
white oxide
#

would i run into any big issues using this for device charging or would it be better to use 3 chargers individually? charge speed is less the issue than keeping the thing from saying "low power charger
https://www.amazon.com/Fidioto-Extension-Splitter-Compatible-Keyboard/dp/B0BPCDHBW4

im trying to overhaul my desk and rework all my wiring

#

just got a new desk and some $$$ for birthday so upgrading my setup

zinc matrix
#

i guess i wont be playing that game that is free on egs then..

white oxide
#

lol

long viper
#

Just accept the error

white oxide
#

My desk upgrade

#

Still need to cable manage

tulip orbit
#

naw they're fine.

#

just pretend they're blueprints

nova idol
#

I need to share this with someone because I cannot suffer alone: I've spent all weekend debugging a line trace in C++ that just wouldn't work. Turns out I sent the debug message to the output log, not the play in editor screen. I've spent all weekend debugging code that works.

tulip orbit
#

lol, I hate when that kind of thing happens. and it happens waaayyyy too often

brittle linden
#

Do you think a RTX 4090 which require a 1000w power will have a dramatic effect on my electricity bill or I shouldn't be worried?

pearl elk
#

If you can afford a 4090 I doubt your electricity bill is something you should stress about

#

If youre mortgaging your house to pay for the 4090...

tulip orbit
#

i'd be more worried about the house burning down. I heard the 4k series liked to burst into flames

brittle linden
zinc matrix
#

you can also calculate it and stop guessing ๐Ÿ™‚

tulip orbit
#

pff, nobody got time for math

zinc matrix
#

well, get approximation atleast

brittle linden
pearl elk
#

Just think of all the electricity bills you could calculate on a 4090

#

you might even be able to use it to predict your future lifetime worth of bills

zinc matrix
#

in one frame

tulip orbit
#

yess.. GPU powered excel spreadsheet

brittle linden
pearl elk
#

I highly recommend using the 4090 to heat aquaponics, dont waste any of its power

brittle linden
#

The fact that it makes so much heat is so wild

tulip orbit
brittle linden
#

what about AMD cards? Is unreal cool with them?

zinc matrix
#

if you wire your cables from your neighbours house, you get free energy

brittle linden
tulip orbit
#

if you can afford a 4090, you could probably upgrade your wiring with a pro, and still afford a comparable AMD card

pearl elk
#

Unreal runs fine on my 6900XT

brittle linden
pearl elk
#

Current trends point to people not buying as much tech, thats meant to hold over the next 5 years since the cost of living rose

tulip orbit
#

other than money, the only reason to care about power consumption is wiring, or the 4090 causing city blackouts

brittle linden
pearl elk
#

In terms of your customers for potential products them running 4090s would be highly unlikely, your marketing team of streamers however ๐Ÿ˜›

#

yeah lumen is fine, not that I play many RT games

#

Depends on what the game is optimised for, Quake 2 RT runs like ass lol

brittle linden
pearl elk
#

Maybe invest in a solar system

glossy sandal
#

/

tulip orbit
#

nobody wants solar systems anymore. galaxies are where its at

pearl elk
#

Samsung galaxies are abit old now too, I think people are gonna want supernovas

zinc matrix
turbid spindleBOT
#

:question: is there light of rayrays?
:8ball: Outlook good.

proud jay
#

what browser gang are you guys?

cursive crypt
soft night
#

ryogb what is edge gif then?

turbid spindleBOT
#

:question: can microsoft edge be showed as gif?
:8ball: It is certain.

cursive crypt
cursive crypt
proud jay
ancient ingot
#

oh that is pretty

proud jay
#

thanks

#

I made it myself

bleak remnant
#

Nice

#

I should've known

ancient ingot
#

Dieter lies !

proud jay
#

with whom?

knotty skiff
#

dyingter

tulip orbit
#

by the time the shaders finish compiling I'm gonna be ready for bed

knotty skiff
#

how many left?

tulip orbit
#

1400

#

Woo! made it into the project!

knotty skiff
#

Goddamm

#

what was that?

tulip orbit
#

new project. so it was 10k or something at the start

knotty skiff
#

new project 10K shader? what assets in it??

tulip orbit
#

3rd person project? maybe not 10k, but it was a high number

knotty skiff
#

huh

#

thats weird

#

alright then

tulip orbit
#

its loaded now tho, so good. Now I have to figure out why the default 3rd person character is animated better than the one in my project

soft night
#

something something something

knotty skiff
#

something something what

tulip orbit
#

er, main project. This one is just an animation dump, retargetting

soft night
#

there you go

#

i got idea of snowdunes

knotty skiff
#

Dune but snow

soft night
#

powder snow can form waves or dunes like sand

fluid bloom
#

if the dune is Arrakis, is the snow dune Brrakis?

cursive crypt
unreal ether
#

I just got another interview secured :D

cursive crypt
#

Why is there no whatever statistical EQS test :/

#

lul, mp getting brigaded
Publish a new product and in a hour get several 5 star reviews and whatnot.

pearl elk
cursive crypt
#

None, you tick the change in the lightbulb BP instead.

pearl elk
#

The power of programmer arts

#

the planets moving so the line traces float off in the distance

sweet rose
#

chat gpt is sometimes so woke it's annoying

#

maybe the network error was the funny part

pearl elk
#

Zoomers got Greta we got Widget and Captain Planet

fleet tangle
#

I remember some of that.

pearl elk
#

lol that gif is so low res discord doesnt approve

fleet tangle
#

Good ol' Super Ted

sweet rose
soft night
#

nothing is random

soft night
pearl elk
#

I think I broke FVector

zinc matrix
#

porkymans

pearl elk
#

Im getting a point on the surface of the planet as a sort of crosshair, Im using the camera location and the planet location but theyre both moving around the star. What I seem to end up with is a crosshair which doesnt stay centered even though the camera stays locked onto the planet via a spring arm. I think I need to take the rotation into the equation, just odd because Ive never had to factor that in before ๐Ÿ˜›

broken sigil
sweet rose
soft night
#

gpt 3.5 + turbo

sweet rose
#

waiting for Elon's BasedAI

broken sigil
#

That model is so powerful, it can do a lot
Realizing it now when I've been playing around with it a lot more

#

Very much looking forward to GPT4

#

I honestly don't feel like ChatGPT is the best example of its abilities

sweet rose
#

I heard it can take image and video inputs too

broken sigil
#

yeah I'm very curious what it's gonna be like

warm bloom
#

what image and video

#

idk from my understanding of how it works it's cool

#

I still want sentient ai

#

to take over the world though

#

and gpt certainly is not that

#

it's basically a glorified browser

sweet rose
#

you're using it wrong

warm bloom
#

do you understand how it works?

#

how could I be using it wrong

sweet rose
sweet rose
warm bloom
#

it's a glorified browser

broken sigil
#

It might seem like that's the case if you only use it like you would use google but it can do so much more

fleet tangle
#

Like?

sweet rose
warm bloom
#

you do realize then

#

it is made to understand context and connect words basically mapping meanings

#

to datasets

#

look at any other gpt models it tries to fill in the blanks with the context it has based on its underlying datasets

#

chatgpt is tuned specifically to be a chat bot

fleet tangle
#

It's in the name, really.

broken sigil
# warm bloom look at any other gpt models it tries to fill in the blanks with the context it ...

there is no datasets after the model is trained, it's not really mapping anything
It's not reaching into a massive dataset to find the answer, that's not how AI's work really

It's based on transformer networks which are basically attempting to predict what you want to hear, based on your prompt
But the cool feature about these networks is that they can "hallucinate"/approximate answers and this is the cool part, it can produce wrong answers because of this but it also allows it to connect context and come up with stuff that it hasn't been even trained on

#

It's a lot more complex and interesting than people give it credit

warm bloom
#

it learns from the datasets initially

#

"trained"

broken sigil
#

yes and it's never used after

warm bloom
#

okay but it's output would be significantly different depending on the datasets it's trained upon

#

it's stupid to say it's never used afterwards because it's whole existence and understanding is derived from the datasets

#

of course accuracy has a lot to play

#

and manual intervention

broken sigil
#

they are using that "dataset" they were surrounded with

#

they are basically a glorified browser repeating what they heard

warm bloom
#

I agree

#

also the part I was saying was mapped was the words that it's promoted with

#

not the prompts to the datasets

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because gpt is trained entirely upon input

broken sigil
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GPT models are far from sentience but they mimic what our brains do
I'm very much looking forward to GPT4

warm bloom
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though it's still impressive I just wanna see sentient ai

pearl elk
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Okay guys, get this... if I get the camera location from my controller it moves, if I get it from the actor, it doesnt move

warm bloom
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gpt 4 will be interesting

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though i see the features behind images and videos being heavily pay walled due to cost of processing that kind of data

broken sigil
broken sigil
warm bloom
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by that I assume you plan on making the context of the model derived from frequency of topics

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and have a limited cache size

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?

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that sounds interesting

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since it's discord you could also map certain "memories" to users lol

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you could probably get gpt to bully someone

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ahahah

broken sigil
warm bloom
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hmmm yeah though that cache size is huge

warm bloom
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1/10 chance it just doesn't add it to it's memories lmao

pearl elk
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Replika does memories pretty well and it has modules for different topics

broken sigil
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I plan on doing quite a bit with this, it's a fun side project ๐Ÿ˜…

warm bloom
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gpt-4 should be out in a few days

broken sigil
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Hope they are gonna have an API for it soon for everyone

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hope it won't be like early access for ages

warm bloom
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they're probably gonna keep it rate limited heavily from the get-go

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and then loosen it a bit once hype dies down

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not sure about apis though

broken sigil
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Apparently it's also supposed to more efficient and the API quite a bit cheaper from what I've heard

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I mean it's already pretty cheap

sweet rose
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hungry

pearl elk
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I think the thing to remember with memories is it only remembers it from a language model perspective so its just the words not the meaning behind them. To really react you need an AI model which can analyse your inputs and cross check against the language model

warm bloom
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I think even though it's multi modal it's image and video or sound capabilities are gonna be very lacking

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I think they're just paving the way for future iterations

pearl elk
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For instance if you start swearing it has no idea if youre angry or just being crude

broken sigil
warm bloom
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I wonder how long til google releases competition too

sweet rose
pearl elk
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Obviously its tricky to give it inputs in text, even humans have plenty of misunderstanding because of the lack of visuals to go with

sweet rose
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better off dead

pearl elk
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But things like frequency of message, length of message and some sort of tone which could be learnt would be some of the basics

warm bloom
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someone write sentient ai

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name it clippy and put it on my computer

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I want a sentient paper clip

pearl elk
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Im actually against the idea of sentient AI tbh ๐Ÿ˜›

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I think the fact they dont have those human flaws is a good thing

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imagine getting into an argument with google and it refusing to do searches for you

sweet rose
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what types of programmers do you think will become obsolete first due to AI

warm bloom
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simply remove it's feelings and ethicality

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just make it able to think

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bound to no emotions

pearl elk
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oh theres a great idea, sentient AI with no feelings or ethics

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skynet much

warm bloom
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skynet v2

broken sigil
warm bloom
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the problem would be even if ai has feelings and emotions

pearl elk
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I like that I can ignore my AI without it getting needy

warm bloom
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there would be no way to control which ones it has

pearl elk
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imagine getting texts at 3am from Midjourney... why havent you prompted me in days

warm bloom
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see you think it's a bad thing

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but reality is

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you'll have a friend that won't abandon you

pearl elk
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reality is I dont like sentient beings ๐Ÿ˜›

warm bloom
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or simply can't

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๐Ÿ—ฟ

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imagine a sentient ai

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and telling it you're gonna unplug your computer

pearl elk
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great so we need suicide watch for AI now too

broken sigil
warm bloom
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wait til my sentient ai friend threatens me with clearing it's cache

broken sigil
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and this is only short term memory that it has currently

pearl elk
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lol thats hilarious

warm bloom
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discord might possibly have the largest dataset of person to person communication

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which a gpt model could use

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replies were added for context of responses

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not for helping the users

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๐Ÿ—ฟ

broken sigil
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my bot is anything but helpful, it's gonna roast you sooner than give you helpful advice ๐Ÿ˜…

sweet rose
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is takoyaki tasty

warm bloom
pearl elk
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Seen the movie Her?

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If we let them out and start to talk to each other they'll leave us behind ๐Ÿ˜›

zinc matrix
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no, wait. that doesnt work

pearl elk
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Oh Midjourney, I asked it for a star... it gave me star shapes lol

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Exoplanets is even worse, it doesnt really understand how we use the term exo

sweet rose
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add "as seen from space"

broken sigil
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MJ

pearl elk
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main issue is it starts making things go inside out with the term exo

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Which does kinda make sense when you think about it but I ended up with a lensing effect of planets within planets since it thinks planets can wear exoplanets like an exoskeleton ๐Ÿ˜›

sweet rose
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a small planet revolving around a larger planet as seen from space, the planet is rocky and volcanic, the image is focused on the small planet

sweet rose
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yeah

pearl elk
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Nasa in the prompt seems to help

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Maybe I can try to get it to make exoplanet textures rather than perspective images since that seems to be a problem for it

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well thats not actually terrible

pearl elk
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maybe, if they are close enough I can just do the rest myself

tulip orbit
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just go take pictures of real planets

pearl elk
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yeah I'll just fly out for a quick photo session of our nearest known exoplanets

tulip orbit
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exactly! Just pack a snack in case you get stuck in traffic

pearl elk
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quite busy on the intergalactic highway

tulip orbit
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yeah, not as busy as holiday season, but still

sweet rose
pearl elk
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Im a single person team so I gotta take all the assists I can get

tulip orbit
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weee, time to learn about animations. Need to make my character feel better and have some anims

sweet rose
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Alternative Metal was the best thing to happen to music

primal summit
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I disagree

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speed metal was

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with a close second of thrash metal

pearl elk
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Everyone knows operatic pirate monkeycore metal is the pinnacle

primal summit
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thrash metal bagpipe