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proud jay
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you really overuse the word what in your english

soft night
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something what you might see on wadda land haha

proud jay
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that

soft night
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that was that in that with that

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heheh

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play with words

bleak remnant
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😐

warm bloom
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have you had more than 3 beans

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🫘

proud jay
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good question

tulip orbit
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I just had a good nap 🙂

proud jay
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nice

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congratulations

tulip orbit
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thanks 😄 I really needed that nap. maybe now my brain will function

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TIL: you can select files and rename as a batch in win10

unborn lotus
tulip orbit
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thanks for being the big spoon 😉

ancient ingot
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spoooooooooooooooooooon

soft night
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there is no spoon

proud jay
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boys give me some music

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something decent pls

soft night
proud jay
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such emo rock

tulip orbit
proud jay
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that second one in the list I know

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cause of the guy's wild voice

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guess it's time for some more My Analog Journal

broken sigil
# proud jay boys give me some music

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The official music video to "Wish I Had An Angel", taken from the 2004 album "Once".

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cursive crypt
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So, rock & metal.

proud jay
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based on the thumbnails those were suggested by angsty chatgpt

broken sigil
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Enjoy 😅

cursive crypt
broken sigil
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Not really thonking

proud jay
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you guys have special taste

cursive crypt
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#cpp listens to anime pixel music

warm bloom
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someone report blueman

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he is spamming links

proud jay
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hmm

warm bloom
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dieter you're the owner right ban him

proud jay
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I only just realised if you pronounce BlueMan slightly weird it sounds like the dutch Bloemen, which means flowers

broken sigil
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Lol

warm bloom
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flower man

proud jay
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🌼💐🌸🌺🪷🌹🌻🌷🥀

warm bloom
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🌺

cursive crypt
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So, it was all a facade. Behind all that dark metal is a flower.

warm bloom
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❤️

proud jay
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wdym with buit lol

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you just said I smell like sweaty loot

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did you mean booty

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cause buit like booty is more like when a pirate goes to get some booty

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not the kind of behind

warm bloom
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damn

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Google translate failed me

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someone report google for fraud

proud jay
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/report google

broken sigil
warm bloom
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break the rules

proud jay
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what

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how is music nsfw

broken sigil
proud jay
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are you listening to p*rn remixes all day

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cause then I know of a certain S3RL song you'll really like

broken sigil
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No lol
It's good music but the music video is questionable, they actually got rewards for but not something I can post here 😅

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I mean it's not that bad, way better than any of you are thinking now lol
Search for ODDKO Disobey if you wanna check it out

warm bloom
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blue man more like blue balls

broken sigil
warm bloom
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tbf that music video is sfw "enough"

broken sigil
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It really isn't nsfw but some bits are questionable

proud jay
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there's sticky tape, saved from nsfw ban

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this only confirms that you have a strange taste

broken sigil
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😅

proud jay
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high production value for something with "only" 3M views though

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it kind of reminds me of that one game where everything is one big machine consuming flesh or some shit

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SCORN

broken sigil
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Oh yeah ODDKO is heavily underrated in my opinion

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They are fairly unknown but quite good

proud jay
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not really my thing

broken sigil
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And then in the middle of my playlist that's filled with rock and metal I have this 😅

proud jay
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wtf

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how does he sound like a child

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oh it's from dark

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I did vibe with the intro song

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this is what it feels like to have asthma I would guess

broken sigil
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Oh yeah the intro song is really good

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I wish I could watch dark again without knowing what it is about, such a good show

proud jay
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it had kinda lost me a bit in season 2 somewhere

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but it picked back up again

broken sigil
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Oh yeah s2 was very confusing

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I lost track who all the characters were lol

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But S3 was very very good

pearl elk
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This isnt the Harry Potter I remember

warm bloom
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I finished watching lycoris recoil

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hype anime

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@timber viper

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how do you rate lycoris recoil

timber viper
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8.5/10

warm bloom
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fair

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i enjoyed the ending quite a bit

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besides that weird island shit at the end

timber viper
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it was generally good with everything, i liked it

warm bloom
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yeah most animes somehow fail wrapping up

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so it didn't disappoint me for once

timber viper
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there was a plot about it during the end

warm bloom
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part of me wants a next season

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but at the same time

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i don't know if there's any content I'd want more of

timber viper
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i think season 2 is already confirmed

warm bloom
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anyway I just saw it on my social media so much along with bocchi the rock

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so I watched them both

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I think bocchi the rock season 2 is more exciting to me though

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ngl

timber viper
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people who are suffering from social anxiety likes it alot

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but honestly it bored me

warm bloom
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nah it was just funny

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similar to gintama or something

timber viper
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Bocchi's friends are too wholesome to be real 😄

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I thought at that age people were suppose to try asserting dominance to their peers in school to survive in society

warm bloom
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wait

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how the fuck

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did in another world with my smartphone

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get a season 2 after like how many years

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what in the fuck

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why did that garbage ass shit get renewed

timber viper
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ah, another anime I'm happy for not watching

proud jay
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why are you watching it

warm bloom
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they never renew the stuff I wanna watch

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always weird stuff

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do people actually watch golfing anime

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or like that mid ass Tokyo revengers

proud jay
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there's so many random anime series

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there's no way that 70% of them have more than 12 all time viewers

timber viper
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I'm watching Romantic Killer

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Netflix but not woke, somehow

soft night
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like you can create your own

timber viper
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at least not woke yet

warm bloom
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I dislike Netflix cause they barely ever renew

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I do like rom-coms though

proud jay
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frigging Netflix splitting JoJo over 2 releases

warm bloom
proud jay
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my secret : I just didn't watch part6 at all

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I already read the manga

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good enough

warm bloom
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I was never able to get into JoJo

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I hear it gets better but

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idk

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honestly the anime was already ruined when they killed the poor dog

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💀

proud jay
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the first 2 parts are vastly different than the rest

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but I like part2 the most

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but if you didn't like the start, maybe restart watching from part3

warm bloom
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maybe I'll watch more of those once one piece is completed

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in 10 more years

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actually that will probably be the closing of the current arc

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maybe 30 more

timber viper
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I started to read manga a few days ago and somehow I liked it more than anime

proud jay
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JoJo?

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you started from the beginning?

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I just watched anime up to and including part 5 and then read part 6

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and a very small piece of part 7, but couldn't get into it and gave up

warm bloom
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I barely ever read manga

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maybe if I'm in love with the series and it just drops

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it feels tedious

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especially with how my days go

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half the stuff I watch is when I'm falling asleep

cloud crescent
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anyone here go to a university for a degree within game development of some sort? Im going to a community now and double majoring in CS and their gaming/animation course and looking to transfer to a university but not sure which ones are good for the price.

zinc matrix
proud jay
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and in Belgium

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since you didn't mention a country I assume you're american

cloud crescent
proud jay
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USdefaultism strikes again 😔

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can't speak for american courses since I didn't take them 🤷‍♂️

cloud crescent
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true different for everyone. sucks that the best college is like 60k a semester 💀

proud jay
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nah it's not, it's like 900 euros a year

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and it's in belgium 😎

timber viper
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60k? wtf

proud jay
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won best game development school in the world 3 times now 💪

timber viper
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hire people and ship a game for 60k instead lol

proud jay
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move to turkey with that 60k and just retire lmao

timber viper
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thats also an option

zinc matrix
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i just feel like game dev is something that is updated so fast.
You can take a C++ class from 10 years ago and be just fine, but unreal engine? 1 year ago and things started to look different.
That is why finding good university about game dev is hard

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And the demand is low is one of the reasons too

proud jay
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but the basis remains the same

timber viper
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and you're already a semigod

proud jay
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I haven't opened unreal in 2 years and I still know more than 85% of people in #cpp lmao

timber viper
zinc matrix
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But if you put "source code reading skill" into a course, no one would want to learn it, because it's so un-beginner-friendly

proud jay
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well reading code comes with learning to code yourself

timber viper
foggy path
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It's not that nobody wants to learn "source code reading"... but that's not how anyone would phrase it

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They have problems like "it's hard to understand other's code" or "it's hard to understand complex programs"

timber viper
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learning to read source code = being able to understand what you're reading on source

zinc matrix
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Bro if you guys put it that way, why don't we all just read binary code..

foggy path
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if you want to teach someone how to read source code well then those are the kinds of points you need to talk about

timber viper
zinc matrix
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Not like everyone want to dive in low-level language

proud jay
zinc matrix
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Sure, you can take a source code class, pure C++ but it will take more time

timber viper
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source code class? Thonk

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is that even a thing

proud jay
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c++ is c++

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unreal just has some shit on top

timber viper
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i never took any courses, i just asked stupid questions at #cpp and read source code

proud jay
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how do you expect to write english if you can't read it

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same thing

zinc matrix
proud jay
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yes

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but it's still c++

zinc matrix
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Sure if understand low level is better, but unecessary

proud jay
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it's the same

proud jay
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if you know how to use std::cout, you're also able to read code using it

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I'm not saying you need to know the internals of std::cout

zinc matrix
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im dead... anyway university suck, that's it

soft night
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you want to know all?

proud jay
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not really

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but ok

warm bloom
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coding is easy

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just tell chatgpt to stop making mistakes

warm bloom
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and then ask it to write code

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

timber viper
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all you have to do is ask Laura when you're stuck and hope she is not busy, rest is easy

warm bloom
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Laura is gone

zinc matrix
timber viper
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i guess they'll be mario like games since an average senior monthly salary is 6-7k?

proud jay
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depends in what country you hire

timber viper
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freelancers doesnt ask lesser than 40usd hourly

warm bloom
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spend all 60k in marketing

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build a tutorial that takes 3 hours

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no refunds

zinc matrix
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bro in asia where im living 60k is enough to hire a studio of 10 people for 1 year

warm bloom
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that is highly unlikely

warm bloom
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that's $6000 for a year

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having a computer that's good enough to run and compile unreal engine

proud jay
warm bloom
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is like $2000 atleast lol

zinc matrix
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maybe less than 10 people, about 6-7 people, but that money is huge

proud jay
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like for me to get my salary, my company already pays 30% on top of that 😭

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thanks government

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60k is gonna run out fast if you're making something in a western country

zinc matrix
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in poor country, its hard to find smart technical people, but super easy to get artist with a cheap price

timber viper
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even in Turkey for game dev western rates apply

warm bloom
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60k wouldn't even suffice for a singular employee

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you need to insure your employees register the business

proud jay
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I wish I made 60k 😭

warm bloom
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pay taxes

proud jay
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although I guess if I count all fringe benefits I am actually over 60k

zinc matrix
timber viper
proud jay
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belgium is really good at not paying things in money but like as cars or internet though

warm bloom
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you still need insurance

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you will get fined for not providing insurance

proud jay
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if you believe interns are an added value to a company you're wildly wrong

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maybe for a short period near the end

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but in exchange you need to invest in training them

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that's why most companies try to hire the interns afterwards

warm bloom
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intern positions basically don't exist anymore

zinc matrix
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many questions with 0 real answers

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that is basically startup

warm bloom
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most companies either do contracts or a preliminary run of employment

timber viper
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even Epic

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tech lead is contractor 😄

proud jay
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there's other benefits to setting it up like that though

warm bloom
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contractors make way more money

zinc matrix
warm bloom
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but usually there's a reason you'd get hired as a contract worker

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you actually know what you're doing

proud jay
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you also pay a contractor differently though

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depending on country and regulations again of course

foggy path
zinc matrix
warm bloom
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I've heard of funny stories like companies firing people who are basically held up the entire infrastructure just to be forced to pay absurd like $500,000 contracts to get shit sorted

foggy path
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Huh, surprising if it's cheaper in there

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But sounds like it if your expenses are only 200 a month

sly plank
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Have to say that after a lot of people from my former studio and other studios I know were telling me to not join this discord, because of a lot of toxicity, especially in #cpp and Mods time outing/banning people who were disagreeing with them that's why they left this discord, I thought it can't be that bad. But I can only confirm all of those points, Mods were not really doing that to me but to others I know from the server who also left and that's also what I'll do now. Have a good day all!

foggy path
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Lol

warm bloom
foggy path
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Gr8 b8 m8 is all I can say to that comment

zinc matrix
proud jay
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imagine getting triggered because someone tries to clarify your message that might look like conveying misinformation

warm bloom
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most people who experience toxicity are entitled to some sort of special sit down tutoring to fix their issues

foggy path
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Yeah sometimes #cpp gets a bit cranky but they just need to have their juice box

warm bloom
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I couldn't imagine why

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writing in c++ and being happy are just not two things that go hand and hand

proud jay
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true

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it is often painful when I switch back to c++ from c#

warm bloom
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it's one of the reasons I'd rather use unity

proud jay
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I love the power of the language, but it's such a hassle at times

warm bloom
foggy path
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The only problem I've really had is that the compile/run cycle is slower

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Otherwise it's more or less the same for me

proud jay
zinc matrix
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But i heard rumors about toxicity in this discord too, and at some points
of my life i would be happy to listen to trashtalks just to fix this damn bug

warm bloom
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I've not heard of toxicity or rumors about it

zinc matrix
proud jay
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there is sometimes toxicity for sure

warm bloom
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the people who tend to have issues in programming discords tend to be people with less experience who feel entitled to people who are using their free time to help them

proud jay
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but it's often warranted tbh

proud jay
warm bloom
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I've had many experiences of providing help once

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just for the same person to ping me 15 other times

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a lot of the time it's frustrating too

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because some of the people show no signs of wanting to actually learn

zinc matrix
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i visited #cpp once. people were spamming pictures of anime girls. i hided the channel and never looked back. too scary for me.

warm bloom
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they just want it done for them

zinc matrix
proud jay
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most of the time it's people feeling entitled and other proving them wrong that leads to toxicity

warm bloom
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everywhere on the internet has toxicity to be fair everywhere outside of the internet as well

proud jay
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or people just not listening to advice

warm bloom
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yes also a lot of the time people who are asking for help

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like have superior complexes or something

zinc matrix
warm bloom
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and feel the need to act like they know everything

cursive crypt
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Alcohol is toxic too btw

warm bloom
cursive crypt
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You are so toxic

zinc matrix
warm bloom
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well then they're getting harassed by the people who know fuck all

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and should just ignore them

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superior complex is real

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there's lots of people of all ranges in here too

zinc matrix
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I guess they just didn't want to bother with helping others when they only gain toxic behavior from that

warm bloom
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I don't really go into the help channels in here

zinc matrix
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hmm why are we trying to analyze where the toxicity come from lul..

warm bloom
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you can ask anything in here

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and if they say you're in the wrong channel

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you can laugh at them

zinc matrix
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maybe that's the best advice, even though sad

warm bloom
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the first issue is having the expectation that your problem will actually be solved

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a lot of my problems I've asked and end up fixing it myself anyway lol

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@proud jay how print string in python

warm bloom
# zinc matrix probably also much more chill

Another thing is if they have 20 years of experience the problems they're encountering probably won't best be asked here lots of people who are actually aware of those kinds of things have more productive things to do then to be in a discord helping others

zinc matrix
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I just think that it's sad that this server loses or can't hold people with experience. I read the other day that Laura left and was also a bit sad about that because I thought she was a very valuable member of this community.

warm bloom
warm bloom
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there comes a point in time where you weigh your priorities and find yourself spending too much time

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chatting in a discord etc

zinc matrix
warm bloom
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possible I wouldn't know tbh

broken sigil
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and Mods time outing/banning people who were disagreeing with them

proud jay
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☣️

warm bloom
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blue man is bias

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don't believe it he moda

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the mods*

proud jay
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Haven’t seen that either tbh

warm bloom
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they're actually evil

proud jay
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At least not in cpp or lounge

warm bloom
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flower man is the purest of evil

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they spend their whole day plotting the demise of humans whilst talking to ai

proud jay
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True

zinc matrix
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now comes the tricky part... what if I now disagree? 😄

warm bloom
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tbh I've never seen the mods punish people

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and there's lots of instances where people borderline break the rules

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usually just a warning to stop

zinc matrix
broken sigil
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would rather remove myself as a mod than time someone out for disagreeing with me so it's quite insulting to get accused of doing that and blocked for something me or none of the mods ever did
And all of the mods see what the mods are doing, all the actions are recorded

warm bloom
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blueman this is your chance to time them out

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your feelings are hurt

zinc matrix
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it's ok to be a little bad

warm bloom
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yeah honestly I'm rather disappointed in the mods

zinc matrix
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Idc I don't have any mods blocked but I also had at least 3 people telling me that IRL. But I also don't care if I get timed out, like I'm not very active anyway

warm bloom
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they do a whole lot of nothing

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I thought they were supposed to fight evil or something

broken sigil
warm bloom
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some people are easy to influence

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on that note blueman has banned me 17 different times I'm getting tired of making accounts

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all because I said I used the php language

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what's wrong with using the best language out there

broken sigil
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all true 😅

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I probably need to clarify that this is a joke before someone again takes it seriously

warm bloom
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if someone thinks me saying php is the best language

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and actually believes it

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maybe we are better off having them leave thinking the other thing was true

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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honestly php isnt that bad though especially the newer features they've been adding

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Laravel looks extremely nice

proud jay
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Before they got quinn

zinc matrix
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ah didn't know that

tribal citrus
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At last time I think that gamedev not for me(

proud jay
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why

broken sigil
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I'm pretty sure every single one of us thought that at some point 😅

tribal citrus
# proud jay why

I've been doing the same thing for 4 years and I don't see any progress

proud jay
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in what way

zinc matrix
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maybe you have reached the highest possible level on that "thing"

tribal citrus
timber viper
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how come i wasnt there when it was #cpp's best moment?? burn

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anime girl picture spam is clearly better than stupid pointer vs ref debate

zinc matrix
timber viper
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I didnt get a strike for that

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why.. you have a pixelated screenshot of my message from decades ago sus

zinc matrix
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gimp doesnt know how to scale images properly

timber viper
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why.. you have a ~~pixelated ~~screenshot of my message from decades ago sus

zinc matrix
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why wouldnt i?

timber viper
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why would you

broken sigil
zinc matrix
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it wasnt that hard

zinc matrix
timber viper
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10/08 is not one year ago though

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One for donating one gif to Tank's and Xero's gif chain

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One for I dont know

timber viper
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Only if asking nudes from people would end up in strikes too: #cpp message

broken sigil
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Long long time ago way way before my time as a mod I was warned by DevilsD for off topic in #cpp voxelcat

zinc matrix
broken sigil
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I wonder if he remembers 😅

timber viper
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I was talking about you cant ship games in Iran

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he got mad at it

zinc matrix
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i think i believe the anime story and move on

timber viper
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

zinc matrix
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its more fun story

proud jay
timber viper
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I was expecting strike from BM because BM was there to stop offtopic

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but I was trying to finalize my long long written sentence so I couldnt stop

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when I sent it devils threw the hammer at my face

tribal citrus
# proud jay maybe make something less difficult first?

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Bouncing Traveler - a platformer game for accuracy, made in 3D graphics.In the game, you have to control the ball, which must jump on platforms to reach the teleport. On the way, you will come across various traps and dangers that you will have to bypass and overcome, along the way collecting coins that will be useful to you in the future. H...

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It been did for 1 week)

zinc matrix
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Dude released a game after 1 week of studying ☠️

timber viper
cursive crypt
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What a lame layout.

zinc matrix
timber viper
zinc matrix
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its a picture

timber viper
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such enlightenment

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77 likes one was the meme i guess?

fleet tangle
# timber viper

Reminds me of that guy who said getting 30 viewers on twitch was the new "making it"

broken sigil
fleet tangle
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That doesn't mean you've made it.

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That just means you're not entirely shit.

timber viper
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15 people watching you realtime is scary tbh

broken sigil
fleet tangle
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Like getting a few hundred or a few thousand viewers is sort of making it.

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But you're still small fry.

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You're just now an amoeba by that point.

zinc matrix
#

how much is jeff's cut nowadays? 50%?

fleet tangle
#

Viewers 😦

timber viper
fleet tangle
timber viper
#

My last strike is just after manny v2 introduced

broken sigil
timber viper
#

why did you clip reasons sus

#

what shameful crime Tank did

broken sigil
#

it's really bad

timber viper
fleet tangle
#

If you can't read the rules, they don't apply, right?!

timber viper
#

or voted someone else over hayasaka in waifu comparision?

proud jay
#

I think I was only striked once

#

and it was for showing someone their reasoning was stupid by giving an example

timber viper
proud jay
#

as to why the jk defense does not work

proud jay
#

no

#

I think it was AU actually

celest musk
#

😄.

#

do you guys not miss him?

fleet tangle
#

HOW VERY DARE YOU!

proud jay
#

who was the smiley guy

timber viper
#

there was a week where everyone speaking about 18+ stuff

#

especially that luqtas

#

some even sent some pics

proud jay
#

oh

#

and about the lewd child anime things

#

people be wild

timber viper
#

I remember mods werent around for full one week

broken sigil
timber viper
#

since when that is a crime Thonk

celest musk
#

ah, that was the time when i barely looked into lounge

#

and also i tend to just skip ahead of drama

timber viper
#

ahh

#

yeah

#

thumbs up tank

#

lol

broken sigil
#

think that one got removed

timber viper
#

yay

celest musk
#

emotional support tank

proud jay
#

true tank on tuesday

foggy path
proud jay
#

people sure are creative

broken sigil
proud jay
#

athene is a bit crazy in the coconut unfortunately though

#

I used to love his stuff back in the WoW days

#

but then he went a bit wild and built a compound in germany

#

and made some strange blockchain game

#

and blockchain tokens

#

very cult-ish behaviour

zinc matrix
#

there was some documentary-like thing about him on yt. didnt seem very nice dude.

soft night
#

then dieter made decentralize game

broken sigil
broken sigil
primal summit
#

ok... just a question, but has anyone here read a Dr. Bonner's soap bottle?

#

it reads like a cultist manifesto

finite oriole
#

Omg ChatGPT is so good, googled "unreal engine how to use a plugin inside a plugin" I got some info, but not enough to get it working, so after 2-3 hours I tried ChatGPT just for fun and it gave me the info I needed in 5 sec, think I'll just use ChatGPT from now on, and stop wasting my time with google 👍

broken sigil
zinc matrix
#

im starting to think that riva tuner is not healthy for your gpu

#

its a cube and idk how it messes it up

#

but looks kind of fun

worldly mesa
#

accurig does not export in the same pose i brought in. Seriously? That is absurd. I must be missing something. I had been avoiding this company for years, but accurig is useful.

#

lol, looked good in accurig, garbage when exported. I was avoiding them for good reasons

#

I normally do not say negative things like that, but this is absurd

white oxide
#

Whelp i think ive developed allergies to tree pollen
My nose and face are fked up all day when i go outside and pollen particulates are so high they actively limit visibility

unborn lotus
#

did you fix your lungs?

regal pecan
#

with that much pollen it wouldn't even need to be an allergy

cursive crypt
#

These are the worst, I'm allergic to grass pollens. You will get surprised how much grass lies around.

fleet tangle
#

What

proud jay
#

daily scrum with manager: 20 min

#

daily scrum without manager: 4 min

fluid bloom
#

we have a scheduled 30 min daily

#

it fucking sucks ass

#

for 28 mins in the meeting I'm like the taxi robot above

proud jay
#

lol

#

it used to just be a boring status update meeting as well

#

but then I was just continuing to work while others talked

#

I told the manager that no one benefits from this

#

and now we go more over the topics at hand saying what actual progress has been made towards the goals

#

so it happens that I don't say anything if I just fixed bugs for example

#

much better

fluid bloom
#

if a daily takes more than 30 seconds per head then something is really wrong imo 😄

proud jay
#

well maybe 30 is very little

#

some people just open with 20 seconds of uuuummmmmmmmm 😄

fluid bloom
#

o_O

warm bloom
#

why don't they just read commits

#

😦

fluid bloom
#

I can't be arsed to do so

#

😄

#

the team manager can't even do that when we're doing a release

#

and then he fumbles around asking if stuff this and that is in master branch ready to release

proud jay
#

commits don't always happen inbetween

#

especially not on main

#

I don't make a commit every day on main

#

but I could still be blocked with something

cursive crypt
#

Daily updates are annoying af. We are onto weekly and still you can use the time outside the 5 minutes slot you have.

#

Dailies make sense either the manager or/and the employees have no idea what's going on.

proud jay
#

I like just seeing people once a day though

#

otherwise I'm just sitting here all alone most days

cursive crypt
#

Don't they mute cameras, eww

proud jay
#

no lol

#

I don't like talking to people without camera

#

it's strange to me to not turn on camera tbh

cursive crypt
#

You can put a cute monster as an avatar pic

proud jay
#

it's like if someone were to walk up to you and say hey and you would turn around before responding

cursive crypt
#

I see it fine, when the participants are few.

proud jay
#

well yeah

#

if you're in a meeting with like more than 8 or something I turn it off too

#

unless I'm the speaker of course

cursive crypt
#

Hmm... yeah.

#

Anyway, I feel like ranting about the water plugin.

#

Need to vent.

proud jay
#

what's wrong with the water plugin

#

not hydrated enough?

warm bloom
#

it's probably way more difficult the larger the company though

#

I've only ever worked with a few people max

#

like 4

proud jay
warm bloom
#

dieter-did-a-for-loop

proud jay
#

there's only 5 developers in our direct team

#

and one tester

#

and some functional dude

#

and one annoying as shit face

warm bloom
#

everyone got an annoying ass shit face

#

or those people who are completely unqualified

#

I hate meetings though

#

cause they always feel so long winded

proud jay
#

depends who it's with

#

like if it's with my manager or my coachees it's pretty efficient

warm bloom
#

I especially hate meetings I've had with 3rd party companies

#

those are the worst

proud jay
#

but when that one shit face joins fuck me I want to die

#

or when the "important" people join it also gets out of hand

warm bloom
#

atleast I've been paid everytime

proud jay
#

got our collective bonus today

#

which is nice

#

still have to wait a month for my personal bonus though 😭

#

and the goverment takes a big chunck of that one

#

but we already avoid taxes on it 💃

#

instead of paying it in money

#

they just give you warrants (as in the stock thing)

#

and then we as the employee sell those warrants

#

and that way you pay way less taxes

#

cause a bonus is like taxed 60% here

warm bloom
#

no when my job going to start giving me "gifts"

proud jay
#

while I think the warrants only like 30

warm bloom
#

so it doesn't get taxed

proud jay
#

I already fall in the 50% tax bracket in belgium 😔

#

fucking yoinked by the government

warm bloom
#

at least you don't have to deal with insurance

#

might as well be taxed 50%

proud jay
#

you mean for like healthcare?

#

or other insurance

warm bloom
#

home insurance health insurance car insurance

proud jay
#

I still need home and car insurance lol

warm bloom
#

fair but honestly with how much comes out of your pocket for just health insurance

proud jay
#

well although I get my car + insurance from my job

warm bloom
#

I rather pay more in taxes

proud jay
#

so that one is taken care of

#

but not by the govnmt

proud jay
#

and then if you go to the doctor you pay like 3 euros or something

warm bloom
#

yeah I have a copay of $25

#

and then it's thousands of dollars a year

proud jay
#

my company is giving me baller benefits though

#

I could literally purposefully crash my car into a tree, mangle my body, have surgery on every part of my body, stay in the hospital for 3 months, and I would have a total bill of 0 euros

warm bloom
#

yeah my cost is currently less than average

#

The company pays for the majority

#

I was in the hospital for like 5 days maybe 6 ??? 3 years ago and it cost I think around 7 grand

proud jay
#

big F

warm bloom
#

could be worse I guess

#

I wish paying that much I atleast got like god tier food

#

but it was like rotten fruit

#

and flavorless everything

proud jay
#

sounds like average UK food

warm bloom
#

they put me on restricted shit cause I was throwing up bags

#

like filling the entirety of puke bags

proud jay
#

sounds nice

#

at least they can reuse those bags to feed the other patients

fluid bloom
#

restricted shit while throwing up sounds like a form of torture

#

"hey, no shitting!"

warm bloom
#

either way american healthcare is a scam

#

insurance is a scam

#

but they will continue to lobby our government

#

and make billions

warm bloom
#

since I couldn't keep food in though I basically never had to use the bathroom

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

proud jay
#

luckily american healthcare is just subsidizing for the rest of the world

#

thanks guys

warm bloom
#

I'd take living in Belgium over here for sure though

#

or Germany

#

Australia?

#

Canada

proud jay
#

just come over

#

we accept anyone here apparently

warm bloom
#

do you

fluid bloom
#

belgium sounds a bit daring

warm bloom
#

they have chocolate

#

sounds good enough

proud jay
#

belgium is great if you're lazy and have no morals though

fluid bloom
#

meh, fazer blue > every other chocolate

#

😉

proud jay
#

like if you don't work you still get pretty decent income

#

and all kinds of benefits

#

there's literally people actively not working because it benefits them more than working

#

thanks government 🙃

warm bloom
#

it looks good

#

that's acceptable some people actually are productive whilst not working traditional jobs

#

I do feel like you should be forced to work for x amount of time though

proud jay
#

I do too

#

but politicians are incompetent

#

you do have to apply to jobs every so often to keep benefits

#

but they don't really check all that much

#

our welfare program is a bit too generous imo

#

it encourages people to not contribute

warm bloom
#

it sounds like it could be abused

#

though it's better than not being generous at all

#

welfare here basically forces you into being poor forever lol

proud jay
#

I'm not saying it shouldn't be there

warm bloom
#

and it's not been keeping up with inflation from what I've seen

proud jay
#

just more controlled and less enticing to drop work over

warm bloom
#

agreed

#

there should be incentive to work

#

I hope they switch to 4 day work weeks soon

proud jay
#

or like at least if they're unemployed let them work for the government on something

warm bloom
#

or do community service

#

like cleaning up or helping out you know

proud jay
#

so not that great

#

but still something

warm bloom
#

I rather work more hours

#

10 hours for 4 days

proud jay
warm bloom
#

and then have 3 days off

#

3*

proud jay
#

well you can do that now if your employer agrees

#

as in there's a legal basis for it

warm bloom
#

a lot of jobs I've been at space out my two days off as well

#

:/

#

and apparently 4 day work weeks are more productive to the point of a bunch of companies switching over after running a trial period

fluid bloom
proud jay
#

well you could, but then the company had to do a lot of effort to set it up and it would have implications on pension and all that jazz

#

now it's just like a checkbox like yes I just work 4 days now

#

and the rest is taken care of

proud jay
#

which I can definitely get

#

cause at points I just waste hours on some days I really don't feel liek wokring

warm bloom
#

yeah especially for less physical jobs

#

you aren't actively doing anything but staring at a screen

#

sometimes you cant get your brain going

#

you just sit there

#

I have friends who work from home and put like 4-5 hours in a day lol

#

seems pretty common with people who do programming or other IT jobs

#

I spend time off of work looking up solutions to problems anyway lmao

proud jay
#

sometimes I just lose time cause I'm doing a build, but then you get distracted cause you have to wait a few minutes

#

and by the time you get back to it you just wasted 30 min

#

which is another reason why I'm less productive when working on c++ instead of c#

#

cause our c# can build everything in like 40 seconds

#

while for c++ just compiling one file that I commonly use can take like 6 minutes

warm bloom
#

I spend so much time planning the ux of things

#

I work backwards on almost everything

#

so I usually spend more time sitting there thinking

#

lol

#

especially since I'm working on something currently that generates code at runtime

fluid bloom
warm bloom
#

true

proud jay
#

we already do distributed compilation with more than 900 cores

#

linking takes a while though, that's not distributed

warm bloom
#

oh my god

zinc matrix
#

not enough for UE shader compiler

fluid bloom
#

are you building billion LOC monolithic builds where everything includes everything or how is 900 cores so slow? 😄

proud jay
#

yes

#

idk man I didn't set it up

#

not billions though 😭

warm bloom
#

write a bunch of filler lines to hit billions

proud jay
#

rip

#

I'm all out of sausage

#

what can I eat now

cursive crypt
#

ham

proud jay
#

don't have ham

#

I'll go to the butcher later today

warm bloom
#

why ham

proud jay
#

good question

timber viper
#

belgian fries

#

both

cursive crypt
#

baklava

proud jay
#

but all of those are not present in my house

#

although

#

I do have some fries

#

but I'm not gonna prepare them as a snack lol

timber viper
proud jay
#

no

#

we also don't have fries or kebab in the office lol

#

idk what kind of office you work in but it sounds nice

warm bloom
timber viper
#

wtf

#

baklava angela merkel?

timber viper
cursive crypt
#

lol, I was trying to read these two words. til

#

Merkel baklava

proud jay
#

but shit costs money

#

and time

fluid bloom
ancient ingot
#

@proud jay you pay for shit? 😮

proud jay
#

yes

#

only the most tasty variety for me

ancient ingot
#

mm yum yum 💩

proud jay
#

where coffee

ancient ingot
#

in the kettle

proud jay
#

you make coffee in a kettle?

ancient ingot
#

ofc

proud jay
#

so brittish of you

ancient ingot
#

😂

proud jay
#

like is the coffee the kettle or water in the kettle though

#

important distinction

ancient ingot
#

water in kettle + coffee in jar = coffee

proud jay
#

in a jar

#

what

#

the powder or the coffee

ancient ingot
#

kenco m8, you are not having my expensive stuff!

proud jay
#

oh

#

that kind of jar

ancient ingot
#

lol

proud jay
#

instant coffee like that is kinda shit

#

it works sometimes

#

but it feels... empty somehow

ancient ingot
#

kenco rich is ok, but nescafe etc is like nasty

proud jay
#

sorry I only drink coffee that has been through a monkey's digestive system

ancient ingot
#

ew

proud jay
#

never heard of Kopi Luwak Coffee?

#

I never actually drunk it

#

it's just one of those wild things

ancient ingot
#

ew sounds nasty

#

and

proud jay
#

this thing eats the beans

ancient ingot
#

openjdk-18-jdk what kjind of fucked up naming convention is this

proud jay
#

and then out comes delicious beans

ancient ingot
#

🤮

#

minecraft server

celest musk
#

why jdk?

#

and not jre

ancient ingot
#

cause im thick

celest musk
#

you mean dense

ancient ingot
#

😂

#

jdk was an example, its installing jre

proud jay
#

why you installing the joe rogan experience

ancient ingot
#

ubuntu@testingsrv:~$ java --version
openjdk 18.0.2-ea 2022-07-19

#

cause.... minecraft dude........

celest musk
#

ea.... good luck

#

install the lootbox mod now

ancient ingot
#

😂

celest musk
#

i bet there's one

foggy path
#

I hope you're installing 300 mods too

#

because vanilla minecraft is boring

ancient ingot
#

must have that pay2win experience

ancient ingot
#

@foggy path i always install some, but not to many

celest musk
#

oh, 1.12.2 only

proud jay
#

minecraft is always boring single player imo

foggy path
#

Yeah maybe

celest musk
#

and modded

#

then it's fun

foggy path
#

It's better in modded, vanilla is kinda meh even in mp

#

I want to make a big factory and computers and a sorting machine and shit

#

lol

proud jay
#

tekkit

celest musk
#

yea, but it evolved quite a lot since tekkit

foggy path
#

All The Mods is the best pack because it has so many things in it lol

ancient ingot
#

ye tekkit

#

atm has like 200 mods

proud jay
#

idk I only know it cause of yogscast

foggy path
#

Did Tekkit way back in the day when it was the cool thing

celest musk
#

yea, also a fan of all the mods, enigmatica is also awesome

foggy path
#

Some folks don't like ATM but for me it's just about having fun with the game so something that just gives a ton of variety is great

ancient ingot
#

this is a shitty arm server i think atm might be a bit much for it

celest musk
#

why do they not like it? they even have expert packs if it feels to easy for them...

ancient ingot
#

alot of people dont bother configuring the mods

foggy path
#

They want a more focused experience usually from what I understand, and the difficulty thing too

ancient ingot
#

so they think its shit

foggy path
#

You don't really need to configure ATM that much

#

At least I never really did and it worked fine

ancient ingot
#

more like customise i guess than configure

celest musk
foggy path
#

Yeah no idea

celest musk
#

i mean, the whole point of packs like ATM is that you don't have to tweak stuff manually

foggy path
#

I can see the POV of the difficulty and wanting a more focused thing where you work towards some kinda thing in the pack... ATM doesn't really give you that I think

#

ATM is more of a sandbox in that sense

celest musk
#

wonder which pack that does...

ancient ingot
#

oh dam, atm 8 is 340 mods

celest musk
#

ATM still gives you the opportunity to just focus on one mod (at least in the non expert packs)

foggy path
#

Yeah

celest musk
#

and a lot of great mods went down the drain somehow

#

specially thaumcraft/bloodmagic, which slowly regain their play value

foggy path
#

I'm just a tech mod guy so don't know much about those

celest musk
#

or maybe i'm too stubborn to expect the same experience over a decade 😄

#

yea so am i, but magic mods can be fun, too

foggy path
#

I tried Blood Magic once for fun but it was pretty grindy and I spent a lot of time stabbing myself with the knife to get blood and then healing, rinse and repeat

#

lol

celest musk
#

that's where tech mods come in handy

#

e.g. rftools environment controller to autofeed/heal you 😄

#

and autoclicker... and hope to not lag out

#

now i wonder if i should give ATM8 a try

proud jay
#

but what about auto licker

celest musk
#

i could post some borderline NSFW videos... but let's not

foggy path
#

kinda want to try skyfactory sometime but haven't gotten around to it

celest musk
#

it's fun

#

once

foggy path
#

lol yeah I can imagine

celest musk
#

zomg wanna start ATM8? :>

#

the modlist checks out for me 😄

proud jay
#

what about this modlist

celest musk
#

this one not so much 😄

broken sigil
celest musk
#

this moment 😄

broken sigil
#

lol

zinc matrix
#

Taco

proud jay
#

BM's pfp looks straight out of one of those video clips he linked yesterday

celest musk
#

cool, there's even cooking integration for AE2 now 😄

proud jay
#

age of empires 2 in minecraft?

broken sigil
celest musk
#

no, AE2 is a mod which is like a giant computer chest

#

and has stuff like auto crafting

proud jay
broken sigil
#

lol

proud jay
#

"music"

broken sigil
#

hey it's good music 😛

proud jay
#

unrelated question

#

are you per chance partially deaf

broken sigil
#

nope

proud jay
#

that's what they all say

broken sigil
#

lol

proud jay
#

although the partially deaf most often respond with "what?"

celest musk
#

ewww atm now has paid servers for $10/month for a slot... wew

proud jay
#

man, writing generic code is so nice and reusable, but damn debugging it can be painj

broken sigil
proud jay
#

me neither

#

it makes me unable to think

broken sigil
#

^

broken sigil
#

it's nice and sunny outside, a bit cold but nice
What a nice day to...

#

play rocket league

celest musk
#

yea i should get at least my groceries -.-

proud jay
#

damn 2k hours

#

I'm gonna have a nice walk to the butcher and the bakery and then go back home and chess it out probably

celest musk
#

that's beyond the point where i uninstall a game to stop myself

#

and start with another one...

unborn lotus
#

I always felt bad with 600 hours of csgo

zinc matrix
#

Hear me out

#

thank god i cant see WoW play times without re-subbing..

proud jay
#

yeah I don't want to know that

#

I was already at 800 ish hours on one character when MoP dropped, and I started playing in cata

#

only halfway through cata even

zinc matrix
#

bruh imagine all those hours i spent in learning unreal engine

#

maybe i would be unreal god now

proud jay
#

you could've been dragonHell

celest musk
#

@foggy path interested in wasting some hours of your life on ATM8?

#

they have a public server, which only allows online chunkloading of one chunk, and a patreon one which is more generous (25 chunks off/online)

foggy path
#

No lol

celest musk
#

😭

foggy path
#

I'm channeling my creative energies into my gamedev projects instead which have at least some minor potential of being useful projects lol

celest musk
#

well...

#

you can take creativity out of MC aswell

#

and if it escalates you uninstall it

zinc matrix
#

imagine playing games when you want to be game dev

celest musk
#

i don't want to be gamedev tho

zinc matrix
#

you are also playing games <.<

celest musk
#

exactly

#

because >12h UE each day isn't working anymore

zinc matrix
#

you have to also use it, not only open it :p

celest musk
#

UPDATE data SET MCMs = (SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(MCM) FROM (SELECT "[" || b.name || "]" AS MCM FROM data AS b WHERE b.formula LIKE "%[" || data.name || "]%"))

#

i wrote this beauty today

#

no one told me that i have to deal with this when i started 😄

warm bloom
#

that's ugly as shit

broken sigil
#

damn kinda impressive

warm bloom
broken sigil
#

Told it to convert the uninlined version

#

And then to replace __asm with actual C++

#

very close to the original

broken sigil
#

gave it one of my string comparison functions to explain, it's pretty complex and long and it pretty much explained it perfectly

cursive crypt
#

Ask it how I can fix my river mesh not showing up in packaged.

broken sigil
timber viper
#

be aware OpenAI collects data

#

and they are upfront about it

#

dont share NDA stuff

cursive crypt
#

gfs whole corpo banned it, one of the reasons being that

broken sigil
#

I'm avoiding giving it anything sensitive

#

tbf I don't know why I crossed out the function names, it's FSpellChecker::GetStringCompatibility_Fast and FSpellChecker::GetStringCompatibility lol

#

I'm pretty much giving it just generic bits of code, I strip out anything that might be sensitive like project name and similar

#

the way it understands what the code is doing and the goal of the function is very very impressive

#

it's quite interesting that it can interpret it perfectly but sucks at writing it

timber viper
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there must be a "compiler" behind it

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i have no idea how ML works, but I cant make sense of it otherwise

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it should be parsing and creating statements from the text

broken sigil
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This is pretty impressive considering all large language models are based on transformer networks which in other words is a glorified prediction machine
Basically it tries to predict what it should say from what it has been trained on based on your prompt so considering it can do stuff like this is extremely impressive

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considering how well it can interpret code I feel like it has been specifically trained to do that

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no way it can do that just by a random chance

cursive crypt
broken sigil
broken sigil
foggy path
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Did not expect Haskell

soft night
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for some its easy hehe

worldly mesa
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Does anyone have have a concise list of Blender API changes from 2.9 to now? I am trying to teach ChatGPT as it is driving me crazy with outdated blender python code

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It thought it would be able to understand the raw documentation of changes.. it could not.

proud jay
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maybe ask in a blender server?

worldly mesa
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Nah, you guys are cooler 🙂