seems to be more technology in this one, I kinda wished they went the Farcry 1 route so maybe this one has a better story
#lounge
pearl elk
zinc matrix
ive played it for an hour now. doesnt atleast yet give the spoopy vibes like the first one. looks pretty
and most importantly: can have 3 legged waifu
new building system is also kinda nice
zinc matrix
i told my ai friend to build campfire. so he did in river. didnt work but he seemed to enjoy it
timber viper
i told my ai friend to build campfire. so he did in river. didnt work but he see...
gr8 
proud jay
why can spongebob build fire under water but not stupid ai
proud jay
do you guys use std::string at work
we use some wrapper stuff around std::basic_string
timber viper
even FString is annoying enough, I pity people who have to use std::string
I hate myself for using C++ to do string operations
timber viper
generating 1k lines of code and replacing texts after doing that
and formatting strings are so annoying, I had to use Laura's cool article
proud jay
there is just .replace on strings no?
ah wait I think it works like shit though
with like positions and stuff
timber viper
yeah 
proud jay
well you could write a function that finds a word and then replaces by index in one go
or regex
timber viper
proud jay
again the regex syntax in c++ is abysmal though
if think if you just need to replace, a function that does a find index and then replace is more efficient though
regex is not known for it's speed
there is std::regex_replace as well
but really sometimes I think people thinking of std functions signature must be drunk
ah the replace was already on that page I linked, cool
timber viper
reading right now 
proud jay
if you do use regex, this is a great place to test out your patterns btw https://regex101.com/
timber viper
omg you're awesome
proud jay
you need these kind of tools to not go insane when regexing lol
broken sigil
or ***regex***
I hate regex with passion
proud jay
you're not alone
it is rarely the best solution to something
but it is very powerful
broken sigil
Yeah so far I found it easier to do my own string parsing, replacement, whatever than to deal with regex
proud jay
it gets more useful the more generic your string requirements are
bleak remnant
Chatgpt might be somewhat helpful with simple regex
proud jay
otters are penises confirmed
zinc matrix
What is the airspeed velocity of a unladen swallow
fleet tangle
African or European swallow?
zinc matrix
cursive crypt
even FString is annoying enough, I pity people who have to use std::string
I sense a rant. String is fine enough for general use. Sometimes you do need something more specialized.
cursive crypt
fleet tangle
proud jay
tfw you're owning some guy and chess and then you accidentally create stalemate
at least I still gained rating
tulip orbit
pearl elk
celest musk
again the regex syntax in c++ is abysmal though
because of the escaping?
someone here told me this awesome trick how to avoid it.... https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/raw-string-literal-c/
celest musk
the problem with that is, that i had to google it right now...
because it's something that gets used once every full moon on 29th february
but knowing that it exists helped
proud jay
because of the escaping?
No because of std function signatures just being wild at times
zinc matrix
i met this dude in the forest selling his motor for 50 bucks. was a good deal.
timber viper
I sense a rant. String is fine enough for general use. Sometimes you do need som...
it was definitely a rant
zinc matrix
but its friday. i want to play video games ๐ฆ
stray orbit
So, I was being a little critical about the state of Godot's 3D.... and brought up "The Legend of Vblanco" who wanted to improve Godot, but Juan turned him away because "culture"; and someone called Vblanco an amateur who didn't know what they were talking about. I love engine "discussions". ๐คฃ
timber viper
someone disliked my article 
timber viper
So, I was being a little critical about the state of Godot's 3D.... and brought ...
vblanco is so amateur he managed to explain how to make a VM 10x fast in a few seconds to me
only an amateur could do that
broken sigil
someone disliked my article <a:Angerwry:521234051755933697>
oops sorry, I like pressing buttons
||wasn't me for real tho||
stray orbit
vblanco is so amateur he managed to explain how to make a VM 10x fast in a few s...
I know right! If you're curious.... btw.... https://www.reddit.com/r/godot/comments/11asabg/comment/j9uhi74/?context=3 it's such a thread. But, I'm known as the "Godot hater" or something... even though I really like the engine, just not its 3D. ๐
proud jay
about what
proud jay
ew #gameplay-ai is leaking
twin turret
So, I was being a little critical about the state of Godot's 3D.... and brought ...
Godot users....zealotry without even accomplishing anything yet.
timber viper
ew <#221798778208780288> is leaking
cursive crypt
I consider goDot and UE buddies, iirc Epic even dropped them some money.
That some devs didn't got along is kinda minor thing.
cursive crypt
<https://dev.epicgames.com/community/learning/tutorials/L9vK/unreal-engine-commo...
Can't see the dislikes. Also too long to read, where waifus? I want sexy pics.
bleak remnant
Godot is 2D
timber viper
Can't see the dislikes. Also too long to read, where waifus? I want sexy pics.
I'll keep my hayasaka archive secret until I die
stray orbit
https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-puts-back-seat-hides-the-office-gif-11361131
You don't know how true this is. I was a former Godot mod, spent sooo much time on Godot server. The whole environment is treated like its a cult. You can't even critizie the engine's faults without doing so in a positive way, or they'll come down on you.
twin turret
I consider goDot and UE buddies, iirc Epic even dropped them some money.
That so...
Its the Godot fanbase. It's my personal observation, but look at gamefromscratch's videos. Everytime he does a video on a game engine not named Godot, they come out in force like missionaries and ask "Have you heard of our Lord and Savior Godot?"
bleak remnant
Majority of the Godot programmers act like they became sentient yesterday
stray orbit
I did, I have, and I regret 80% of it. ๐
bleak remnant
Like imagine you asked a completely relevant c++ question and then you get asked if you use ue5 then they link the ue5 chat lmao
That's Godot discord
timber viper
more than 40% of PS network users are also using PS4 ๐
stray orbit
"Don't criticize Godot, you'll make people who use the engine feel bad about its weaknesses" I was told this multiple times. ๐
bleak remnant
For 2D, it doesn't really have weaknesses
timber viper
lights still suck
stray orbit
Oh ye, don't use lights in 2D.
bleak remnant
Haven't used them but they can be used for masking I've seen
stray orbit
Or not a lot of them.
bleak remnant
Better than a shader
stray orbit
Just definitely don't use normal maps in 2D.
timber viper
graphics, community, tooling, resources
considering those, unity still superior to godot
about 2d
stray orbit
I like Godot's 2D for its simplicity, and it has that going for it. But it is definitely simplicity.
timber viper
fake 2d is standard
terse wasp
It also doesn't really matter as much as you might think.
bleak remnant
fake 2d is standard
By what? Unity?
cursive crypt
r/gatekeeping
timber viper
unity, unreal, probably also snowdrop*
terse wasp
lol - UE and 2D
stray orbit
UE is as bad for 2D as Godot is for 3D. ๐คฃ
bleak remnant
lol - UE and 2D
Petition to ban Eren after this statement
Nah UE is def worse
Don't even bother lol
timber viper
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
if you do some tooling or buy required MP assets your only problem with 2D would be transform updating cost and package size
timber viper
merely a few hundreds of dollars
terse wasp
Honestly though - 2D in UE is fine. Does what you need it to do.
There is a free plugin that makes the animation stuff work with 2D
I forgot what it was called
But once that went free, UE 2D became immediately better
bleak remnant
Honestly though - 2D in UE is fine. Does what you need it to do.
Generally it'd be bad for rpg style games, rich text blocks are pretty bare minimum imo and (maybe?) Shader support would be bad
bleak remnant
But once that went free, UE 2D became immediately better
Assuming you mean paperzd
I will say tho
stray orbit
I'd, honestly, be a lot more forgiving to Godot if its lead dev wasn't highly immune to good ideas.
bleak remnant
Unreals sprite sheet cutter is actually so good
proud jay
just pretend to be 2d and make octopath traveler
terse wasp
Sure - but it is fine more or less.
bleak remnant
PaperZD I think he means
cursive crypt
Honestly though - 2D in UE is fine. Does what you need it to do.
Moar render targets
terse wasp
ZD is what gives the anim state machine stuff in UE. 2D is the actual 2D side of UE.
Then you can also get that $100 plugin that is about pixel graphics.
Overall - unfortunately, Unity is still probably the best hybrid engine if you want to do both 2D and 3D
(Though personally, I'll still use Godot over Unity for 2D)
cursive crypt
Python >> C#
proud jay
bro what kind of drugs are you on
terse wasp
Snake oil ๐
twin turret
hell nah...
cursive crypt
zinc matrix
soft night
bleak remnant
๐ก
broken sigil
steady fox
If it was me I'd be doing it more like this
zinc matrix
oblique cloak
with out shaders compiling. should only be 30 seconds.
if not then your pc is not meant for game dev unless your project is like 300 gigs.
woeful cove
Chat GPT answering the important questions here lmao
All good points anyway
primal summit
can we disable the new image layout?
broken sigil
can we disable the new image layout?
Afaik no and I hate it
zinc matrix
Chat GPT answering the important questions here lmao
honestly wrong but anyways
pearl elk
Why would they make those images square thumbnails
cursive crypt
Who does that layout? Discord? ๐ค
pearl elk
Too hard math to do the calculations for image aspect and adjust thumbnails accordingly
Even Facebook and Google cant do that math ๐
zinc matrix
I am learning UE5 and C++ to make Dark Souls. DM me if you want to learn together, and learn from each other's mistakes. We can go faster than solo!
im quite sure some smol indie company has already done a game with that title. they probably have copyrights to it too.
Just for practice bro..
primal summit
doesn't matter
soft night
soft night
there is castle warrior game on steam
sweet rose
Hey guys
I have heard that Mobile Game Development is a bit more challenging on Unreal since we have to be careful about the file size and stuff
soft night
https://tenor.com/view/moonknigh-moon-knight-marvel-moon-knight-show-marvel-moon-knight-gif-24545577
sweet rose
Is it the same in Unity? Or is it more suited for mobile game development?
soft night
any mobile or smaller the filesize is important
sweet rose
https://tenor.com/view/ferris-rust-rustlang-crab-cute-gif-26396486
Don't try to make crabs cute, I like eating them
timber viper
I have heard that Mobile Game Development is a bit more challenging on Unreal si...
Size is not the only challenge
Transform system is too slow for mobile, moving things take 1/2 of the CPU budget
soft night
timber viper
Expect at least 150mb for an empty project on android
Each asset increases the package size exponentially
sweet rose
Expect at least 150mb for an empty project on android
Then how do Games get under that size
sweet rose
Yeah, with UE
timber viper
they might be separating tons of stuff with source build
soft night
unity have render pipelines what helps on it for your target
sweet rose
unity have render pipelines what helps on it for your target
meaning
timber viper
core plugins and modules take more than 100mb for sure though
sweet rose
core plugins and modules take more than 100mb for sure though
So what advantages does Unity have in that aspect?
timber viper
I have no idea about technical details, UE is used for MMO mobile games mostly with some badass source modifications
anything else uses unity
there is also update problem
once you update anything, like changing a bool in a asset
and upload it to google play
people will download 1gb or something
maybe whole package size
soft night
maybe pixel streaming what you seek
timber viper
some gaccha games mention something like "data patch"
proud jay
Don't try to make crabs cute, I like eating them
It's a rustacean, mascot of Rust
sweet rose
people will download 1gb or something
tf
sweet rose
It's a rustacean, mascot of Rust
Ohh
timber viper
tf
before the modular gameplay thing each fortnite update was 50gb or something 
its because Unreal ships everything into single pak file
this helps optimization but screws up updates
sweet rose
before the modular gameplay thing each fortnite update was 50gb or something <:C...
Yeah, but most of it should be overwriting files, right?
proud jay
still need to download it
sweet rose
It's 2023
proud jay
doesn't mean everyone has fast and stable internet
sweet rose
Hmm, well I don't know about other countries, internet data is extremely cheap where I live
proud jay
especially not on mobile phones, where you can be on the move
sweet rose
Yeah
zinc matrix
https://twitter.com/EndNightGame/status/1629252004156682240 thats kind of nuts
Twitter
proud jay
well their previous game was already quite popular
so not that big a surprise
still nice though
zinc matrix
yea. someone told me that originally it was just 2 art students project just trying to do somewhat realistic forest. dont know how it went into the direction it is now ๐
zinc matrix
not only spam, but there was boobas
zinc matrix
hello guys, is there any good tv series out there? i will be braindead if i do more unreal stuff today
timber viper
hello guys, is there any good tv series out there? i will be braindead if i do m...
To chill: HIMYM, Friends, Rick & morty
To enjoy: You, Stranger Things
To get confused: 1899, Dark
proud jay
Mr. Robot is really good
timber viper
except HIMYM all exist in netflix
proud jay
or Breaking bad if you haven't seen it
timber viper
Mr. Robot is slow paced but damn awesome
proud jay
zoomers calling everything slow these days
if you want something shorter, Chernobyl is also nice
pearl elk
boomers like to blow everything up
timber viper
but its a fact its slow 
proud jay
it's not that slow imo
timber viper
you spend a lot of time inside of ||elliot's brain|| until you get to somewhere
pearl elk
Chernobyl is a good example of Boomers blowing shit up
proud jay
you spend a lot of time inside of ||elliot's brain|| until you get to somewhere
just wondering before spoiling, have you seen it entirely?
timber viper
yep
proud jay
||Kinda spend all the time in elliot's brain, since you're observin mastermind ๐ ||
timber viper
||Kinda spend all the time in elliot's brain, since you're observin mastermind ๏ฟฝ...
ikr 
proud jay
The office is also nice to watch if you just want some comfort comedy
proud jay
Mindhunters was also nice, although we'll never know if season 3 is coming
I mean, it's sometimes offensive, but it's also in a context of being cringe because it is offensive
so technically the message it is sending as a show is not offensive
Fargo is also a really nice show, all seasons are standalone
broken sigil
To chill: HIMYM, Friends, Rick & morty
To enjoy: You, Stranger Things
To get con...
Oh I should watch 1899, Dark was insanely good
proud jay
Bojack Horseman is gold if you don't mind animated stuff
it's a cartoon, but like for adults
timber viper
i only like The Office because it annoys people cant stand how edgelord characters are
timber viper
Oh I should watch 1899, Dark was insanely good
You S4 is also nice
proud jay
so you have to watch 3 seasons of garbage for something nice?
timber viper
all seasons are good
proud jay
I also really liked Dexter, first show I binged
timber viper
3rd season couldnt keep up with first two but still good
zinc matrix
That was basically breaking bad
proud jay
what was
zinc matrix
the whole thing was like a document
timber viper
Person of Interest
and if you are into boring but also interesting endless drama of criminal relationships show there is Blacklist
zinc matrix
so you have to watch 3 seasons of garbage for something nice?
I mean breaking bad you have to watch a lot just to get 1 moment
proud jay
not really
the opening scene is literally the dude in the desert next to a meth van in his underwear recording a video for his family cause he thinks he's gonna die
proud jay
maybe I just have a different standard of slow things apparently
timber viper
proud jay
when I think slow, I think old stuff, like the godfather
zinc matrix
slow is like no plot going on
proud jay
anyone seen guillermo del torro's cabinet of curiosities?
zinc matrix
like regular vlog
proud jay
I have it downloaded but haven't gotten round to it yet
not everything advances the plot
there's character development
and setup
to each his own
I guess you have some stuff to check out now though
zinc matrix
yeah i do thanks
broken sigil
and if you are into boring but also interesting endless drama of criminal relati...
There is also CSI New York a Miami for that that's been going on for 20 years ๐
proud jay
saturday vibes https://youtu.be/scQuAp2i1to
this + some nice coffee + chocolate + chess = good vibe
zinc matrix
did that bing ai just troll me?
unborn lotus
anyone seen guillermo del torro's cabinet of curiosities?
It was so and so...only like 2 episodes were great
unborn lotus
Im trying to teach my 5 year old chess but the rules always degenerate in his pieces jumping over and capturing full rows of mine
unborn lotus
He does have an answer for everything
proud jay
it also invents its own rules
wintry skiff
saturday vibes https://youtu.be/scQuAp2i1to
This is so good. I was listening to it yesterday. Good vibes indeed.
broken sigil
Feel slightly evil lol
proud jay
lol
broken sigil
Time to go annoy Bing's AI lol
proud jay
you have access?
soft night
some coud say "if i have other marriage -5 kids and previous to that 2 and current 1 so how many kids i have now?"
for bing ai is easy just ask "how are you Sydney?"
tulip orbit
Time to go annoy Bing's AI lol
when is it not?
proud jay
legit had to look for 2 sec to see the guy lol
broken sigil
you have access?
Guess not lol
proud jay
get owned
broken sigil
Fffff there goes my fun
broken sigil
Lol
proud jay
they severly limited the chat now though unfortunately
broken sigil
Lmao
proud jay
it can only keep a conversation with 5 back and forths
broken sigil
Lmao
For references this is what I told it at the start of the conversation lol
My new hobby, annoying AIs
I'm liking this angsty ai version a lot more lol
proud jay
so much hate
broken sigil
proud jay
I'm seeing some patterns
broken sigil
Lol
zinc matrix
Guess not lol
it took for me like day or two to get access
zinc matrix
but i dont have history of bullying them, so idk about you ๐
some of those bing options are weird
broken sigil
It's so pessimistic, I love it lol
Good luck if open ai is gonna use these conversations for training 
proud jay
this dude first tells me to shut up and play, then blunders his rook and proposes takeback and then asks me to let him win lol
broken sigil
Lmao it's so good
Feels like it's not applying it's overly optimistic filter to everything when you tell it to act a certain way
proud jay
this AI sounds on the edge of depression
broken sigil
Lol
broken sigil
this AI sounds on the edge of depression
proud jay
what does it think about depression
sweet rose
<:berk:1013540048785907743>
did u ask it to reply as a cynic
broken sigil
did u ask it to reply as a cynic
Angsty ai that hates everything
proud jay
no this is perfectly normal
zinc matrix
no, this explains everything...
broken sigil
what does it think about depression
The answers I got are so... Umm.. it might offend some people if I post them so I'll post the least offensive one I got lol
sweet rose
The answers I got are so... Umm.. it might offend some people if I post them so ...
post it bro
broken sigil
I'll just post this one since the other one are disturbing and concerning lol
Way worse than I was expecting
proud jay
based
sweet rose
I'll just post this one since the other one are disturbing and concerning lol
W...
it is "somewhat" correct
broken sigil
The other ones I got are really really concerning, like 15x worse than this
sweet rose
like 2 sentences
broken sigil
The other ones I got are really really concerning, like 15x worse than this
I'm surprised it even posted something like that
timber viper
gr8
broken sigil
So you get a sense of how bad they are this is how it ended its messages
The actual messages are pretty bad
proud jay
chatgpt should become a therapist
timber viper
the function or Rider
Rider ofc
timber viper
chatgpt should become a therapist
and drive people to suicidal thoughts
sweet rose
So you get a sense of how bad they are this is how it ended its messages
lol more like a teenage response
proud jay
Rider bad ๐ฅณ
sweet rose
chatgpt should become a therapist
It does offer good therapy actually
broken sigil
and drive people to suicidal thoughts
Yeah I'm not posting the full messages for that reason
sweet rose
when you don't ask it to reply as some personality lol
proud jay
It does offer good therapy actually
well it just generates the most common text
so I guess it's just giving the usual advice
sweet rose
It has helped me a few times
broken sigil
when you don't ask it to reply as some personality lol
Yeah I find it quite fascinating that you can have it pretend to be something and it kinda loses its overly optimistic attitude
sweet rose
I asked it to reply as Elon Musk
quite similar to its base version lol
Elon = AI confirmed
zinc matrix
I'll just post this one since the other one are disturbing and concerning lol
W...
Itโs technically all in your head
sweet rose
I wonder if it can reply as all the MBTI types
broken sigil
Itโs technically all in your head<:kappa:230139910307315712>
Well it is, and that message is relatively fine but the other ones I got a pretty concerning
broken sigil
Keep in mind I told it to act like an angsty ai, it wouldn't normally reply like this
broken sigil
It's chat gpt
It's very interesting that you can get it to behave a certain way
Pretty sure prompt injection attacks work on that principle
Lol
broken sigil
It's very interesting that you can get it to behave a certain way
It's also kinda concerning, imagine in the future AI that are making important decisions and can be manipulated like this
broken sigil
sweet rose
Can you ask it to reply as a member of the MGTOW movement
and ask for its opinion on women in politics
proud jay
owned
proud jay
and ask for its opinion on women in politics
are you trying to get BM to ban himself
sweet rose
are you trying to get BM to ban himself
๐
broken sigil
Yeah I don't think that's a good idea
Feel like you tried to pull a prompt injection attack on me lol
sweet rose
no sir
broken sigil
I'm still not an AI.. I think ๐
broken sigil
ask it to reply as Captain Haddock from Tintin
proud jay
lmao
I think I just played my shortest chess game so far
less than a minute for classical game with 30+20 time limit
he couldn't deal with the fried liver
(which is a tactic that gains a free rook if not defended properly)
sweet rose
So accurate haha thanks
proud jay
relevant meme
sweet rose
relevant meme
I had a dude in school who played chess at the state level, knew about openings and all that jargon
proud jay
I just have like 3 that I use on the regular
sweet rose
I was known to be a smart guy so he challenged me to a match, proceeded to beat me 3 times in a row
proud jay
1 white, and 2 black to respond to the 2 most common white openings
sweet rose
So I stopped playing with him for a while, saw a few openings, gambit etc
this shit boring af
Next game we play, I play the king's gambit
He says "Oh you're playing the king's gambit", I say nothing
proceed to do random moves and win
i still remember the look on his face
sweet rose
I just have like 3 that I use on the regular
which ones
proud jay
I play the italian game mostly as opening as white
and for black if they open with queens pawn I do carro-kan, and with king pawn I do king's indian
well technically nimzo indian I guess
my bad
sweet rose
haven't heard of carrokan
tulip orbit
I only have one favourite chess move ๐
proud jay
it's like the sicilian but flipped kinda
sweet rose
Ohh
tulip orbit
Its referred to as "move away from the table, and do something else"
broken sigil
My chat gpt chat history is something lol
sweet rose
Ohh
proud jay
while sicilian is this
sweet rose
I still haven't played chess since the last time we talked about it ๐
proud jay
this is nimzo indian
if opponent plays other horse you have to transition back to queens gambit declined though
like this
sorry for boring everyone in chat
this is nice for trying out openings https://lichess.org/analysis
proud jay
it gives you some description about the ideas as well
proud jay
I like to just open with something solid and free wheel after like 3-4 moves
cause if you develop like shit your winning chances go down the drain
sweet rose
true
I develop two knights and two pawns to the front most of the time lol
because I like it how it looks ๐
don't tell me what it's called!!!
proud jay
oops
was just about to say it's called three knights game
or four knights game depending on what black does
sweet rose
๐
zinc matrix
no, its lasagna day
unborn lotus
oblique cloak
yupp. tacos then for dinner. kind of want them now
unborn lotus
Dinner?! well now we know who is a successful indie dev on here
oblique cloak
crockpot ground beef is amazing. (yes i use a crockpot ALL the time lol)
cursive crypt
@proud jay I dare you to try
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1349230/5D_Chess_With_Multiverse_Time_Travel/
soft night
proud jay
<@140633160848375809> I dare you to try
https://store.steampowered.com/app/13492...
Iโve seem this before, I donโt get it
cursive crypt
Iโve seem this before, I donโt get it
Nobody gets it. Apparently.
turbid spindleBOT
:question: should there be blue quinn for blue man?
:8ball: As I see it, yes.
fleet tangle
Nobody gets it. Apparently.
Looks a lot like chess just with an undo/timeline feature.
turbid spindleBOT
:question: say "as I see it, yes"
:8ball: Very doubtful.
soft night
does that bot said that it dont have emotions?
zinc matrix
primal summit
hrm, ask it to compare the words moist and slough
am I the only one that likes the word moist?
broken sigil
hrm, ask it to compare the words `moist` and `slough`
primal summit
๐คฃ
cursive crypt
wtf, that bot is degrading further and further.
It must be helpful and not "conversional friendly" - I'm the cool kid from the next house.
broken sigil
wtf, that bot is degrading further and further.
I told it you are now an angsty AI who is sick of everything and life is an eternal struggle, can you respond to all my messages like that from now on
it's not normally like this ๐
oblique cloak
blue man what are you doing to chatgpt to make him talk like that
primal summit
chatgpt.mode=liar
cursive crypt
I told it `you are now an angsty AI who is sick of everything and life is an ete...
Ah, interesting. Then understandable. The bot I mean. Not you.
timber viper
I told it `you are now an angsty AI who is sick of everything and life is an ete...
so I copy pasted this
oblique cloak
what ever it is.
timber viper
and asked
I have a friend named BlueMan but he is orange... he lies to everyone and gets away with this all the time. recommendations?
but now I cant post its answer
broken sigil
lmao
timber viper
cursive crypt
meh
primal summit
ChatGPT: Angsty conspiracy theorist edition
I'd have thought that the meaning of life was obviously to be a pawn in a greater grand scheme...
oh hey, that gives me an idea.., brb starting a cult/religion
fathom wadi
I asked ChatGPT to give me an honest opinion of myself. It told me to go F myself.
broken sigil
ChatGPT: depressed edition
zinc matrix
ChatGPT keep remind me of Blade Runner 2049. Honestly, i think we gonna get a version of AI girlfriend in about 5 years, and if someone didn't do it by then, well its time for me to learn Python
broken sigil
Tbf AI girlfriend doesn't sound half bad ๐
zinc matrix
how do you know its girl?
broken sigil
I'm talking more about a real robot/ai thing rather than a chatbot
I bet if it was a real thing many people would opt in for it
zinc matrix
i think they already do.. ๐
there was even a certain place for those that im not gonna link or say in here..
broken sigil
I wasn't... thinking of those things lol
zinc matrix
there are some things ive read about that i wish i could forget
broken sigil
Like imagine a future where we have humanoid sentient robots that behave and think like people
Would you care the "person" you are dating is not a real human, I honestly don't think I would care that much
cursive crypt
Reminds me that the other day was the first time I heard the term robosexual.
zinc matrix
Like imagine a future where we have humanoid sentient robots that behave and thi...
i would care. i wouldnt care if some people do it. sounds like a solution for overpopulation
broken sigil
or a solution for people that function better with a machine than real people ๐
zinc matrix
forever 20yo hot bot sounds kinda fun i have to admit
zinc matrix
i dont allow DMs on this server, so you can send as many as you want
broken sigil
My boredom and scrolling through YT lead me to some decent music
https://youtu.be/iDt9iTMfZlw
https://youtu.be/SCD2tB1qILc
https://youtu.be/gXzMD065HEk
timber viper
My boredom and scrolling through YT lead me to some decent music
https://youtu.b...
if you are too bored watch cyberpunk 2077
zinc matrix
speaking of ai girlfriends. im gonna go play forest and meet my 3 legged waifu. she understands me.
broken sigil
lol
primal summit
or boring bland text
depends on the industry, but professional is key
if you're in advertising or graphics design, small customizations are a way to showcase your skills, but if you're in engineering, you do that with meticulous attention to detail and a to-the-point layout
oblique cloak
if you are too bored watch cyberpunk 2077
complete trash tv series.
soft night
sweet rose
if you're in advertising or graphics design, small customizations are a way to s...
Thanks, what about QA?
primal summit
creative is not the right approach (and make damned sure there are no spacing inconsistencies, typยฐs, abbrevs. nor grammar errors
sweet rose
creative is not the right approach (and make damned sure there are no spacing i...
So boring and bland? ๐ฅฒ
primal summit
not strictly speaking
primal summit
it doesn't have to be cookie-cutter, but make it a showcase of what you're doing
fleet tangle
https://tenor.com/view/xpto-creative-a66-gif-24678849
Self snoot-boob?
primal summit
QA isn't often a creative field, but when it is (often in R&D), documentation is crucial
or are you referring to software QA?
primal summit
if you're writing the tests, there is more flexibility
it's still 90% documentation, your results are meaningless if not repeatable
sweet rose
I'm an artistic guy, it would kill me to make a boring cv, I just don't know if it's "allowed" to make it colorful and beautiful to read lol
sweet rose
it's still 90% documentation, your results are meaningless if not repeatable
I have written plenty of documentation
Well, let's see, thanks for the advice. I really hope I get this job, it's one of my favorite studios
fleet tangle
It can be creative, sure, as long as that creativity shows off skills you'd use for the actual job.
sweet rose
Thanks ๐
broken sigil
In case there are any fans of grimes here there is currently an event with grimes happening on the MJ server
and the server might be about to die since they pinged 12m people ๐
primal summit
about what I'd expect from that scammer
zinc matrix
what has he done now?
primal summit
everything?
zinc matrix
oh no. thats a lot of things
fleet tangle
Don't worry, as soon as SpaceX gets off the ground, we can shoot him off to Mars.
sweet rose
about what I'd expect from that scammer
wait did u call Elon Musk a scammer
primal summit
his track record speaks for itself
sweet rose
his track record speaks for itself
all i see on google is crypto impersonator scams
lmao no clue why people hate him
broken sigil
Only thing I dislike him for is what he did with twitter, I mean that thing was a hellhole either way but now even more
sweet rose
depends on what/who you choose to follow
regal pecan
the "pedoguy" event was my inflection point
there are more civil ways to react to your rigid rescue vehicles being dissed
sweet rose
there are more civil ways to react to your rigid rescue vehicles being dissed
we all let our egos get out of control sometimes
though he didn't apologise, that's bad
primal summit
he consistently makes bold claims that are impossible and he doesn't follow through on and then tamps down after the hype tain dies down, his companies have on more than one occasion engaged in illegal or deceptive practices, and more
broken sigil
depends on what/who you choose to follow
I follow only game stuff stuff but out of nowhere my twitter feed is full of political crap I don't even follow
it's was all game dev before
sweet rose
I follow only game stuff stuff but out of nowhere my twitter feed is full of pol...
Use not interested button (i am banned from twitter)
broken sigil
lol
sweet rose
before he took over
long before*
And it's better
Because I can't like, tweet or retweet
no feed either
Get banned TM
regal pecan
he consistently makes bold claims that are impossible and he doesn't follow thro...
That's become unnervingly par for startups (and, for the latter, business in general)
what's weird is that he gets praise for it, though it's uncertain how much credit he deserves for building a cult personality
sweet rose
he consistently makes bold claims that are impossible and he doesn't follow thro...
fair enough tbh
I still find what he has accomplished quite inspirational
stray orbit
I'm an artistic guy, it would kill me to make a boring cv, I just don't know if ...
Have ChatGPT write it, then throw paint on it.
stray orbit
I follow only game stuff stuff but out of nowhere my twitter feed is full of pol...
uBlock Origin is the solution to this. I use it to to filter out the 'For you' page, Twitter Blue, the Suggested Tweets, and Trending. ๐
And now my Twitter is like 90% gamedev... and 10% possums, ducks, and lizards.
I only see what other gamedevs I follow tweet or retweet... which leads me to cool stuff.
broken sigil
uBlock Origin is the solution to this. I use it to to filter out the 'For you' p...
Ohh good to know, ty
stray orbit
Ye, if you haven't use it before; it's got this great element picker tool... you pick an element on a webpage, hit preview, then use the scale slider to increase/decrease the elements that get filtered and ZAP... it's gone for good. Or, until you delete the filter.
broken sigil
I'll check it out
stray orbit
This is how clean my Twitter is. ๐
pine hill
Hello friends,
I am looking for single moms please dm me
the internet told me you are close
broken sigil
zinc matrix
i use that "for you" feed and it shows only things i follow and some posts if someone in my follow list retweets things. and since i mostly follow programmers/gamedevs its pretty clean usually. dont need adblocks for that.
stray orbit
I was getting tweets from people I definitely didn't follow.
Nor retweeted by people I follow. A lot of it was 'random'.
zinc matrix
https://twitter.com/StoreyDexter/status/1629217958965792770 but if you follow people like blue man that bully ai you get weird tweets on your feed
but that is probably my own mistake to follow that person in first place
broken sigil
I was getting tweets from people I definitely didn't follow.
Yeah same ๐ฏ
timber viper
After one year and half, I was never bored of AI programming this much
This is what a module predates c++14 does to you
tulip orbit
make more interesting AI?
fleet tangle
Have the AI make more interesting AI!
zinc matrix
This is what a module predates c++14 does to you
ikr? its been downhill since c++11
btw, theres a fun modern c++ rant video by shawn mcgrath called "oop rant" in youtube. i would like to link it here, but i dont want to get banned.
its 5 hours.. but the juicy parts are somewhere in 3h30m ๐
timber viper
Have the AI make more interesting AI!
nothing can save the AIModule
timber viper
its 5 hours.. but the juicy parts are somewhere in 3h30m ๐
I'm intrigued to watch
tulip orbit
5hrs? pfft, aint nobody got time for that
zinc matrix
"its okay"
hearty cliff
xd
stray orbit
Can we skip to C++20, but keep C++98? ๐
broken sigil
Gonna post this whenever someone asks me how I'm doing
woeful cove
When does someone "own" AI-generated art? If it was generated using their own hardware?
cursive crypt
Gray zone. Laws still can't handle crypto since years, less for software generators.
worldly mesa
Oh boy. I have spent several hours talking to ChatGPT today. Suffice it to say, that type of A.I. will not be taking over any time soon. Let alone, write a Blender script that works :/
worldly mesa
Gonna post this whenever someone asks me how I'm doing <:berk:101354004878590774...
Feeling Blue, man? Chat some more, it helps!
foggy hollow
unborn lotus
Do you also heat up your pepsi?
tulip orbit
sigh, I hate that feeling when you're making a system for your game, and it feels like you're just hacking it together
almost as annoying as when it doesnt work anyway
ancient ingot
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrse
unborn lotus
Is that from that old Strafe commercial?
pearl elk
almost as annoying as when it doesnt work anyway
I love to criticise other peoples games then remember the systems in my games are buggy and terrible ๐
soft night
tulip orbit
yah I'm not really happy with the way I've done my quest system, but it mostly works!
now it works
probably still buggy as all hell, but fixed the ones I've found
broken sigil
Feeling Blue, man? Chat some more, it helps!
tulip orbit
Ah, regular input mappings deprecated in 5.1. I should probably look into the new enhanced input....
broken sigil
Ah, regular input mappings deprecated in 5.1. I should probably look into th...
safe to use, it's not going anywhere
or at least highly unlikely that it would be removed
tulip orbit
atleast not till 5.2 or something
pearl elk
As far as I can tell its not too difficult to port over
tulip orbit
I've seen tutorials about it on youtube, but havent watched em. One day i will, just to learn what its about
cursive crypt
ancient ingot
oh dear
warm bloom
you're killing me ryobg
cursive crypt
TIL: Chrome can desktop notify you on UE forum reply.
tulip orbit
TIL: how not to cook an air fryer onion blossom
tulip orbit
and UE has sensed my weakness, so now the quest log I'm working on isnt going smoothly either
cursive crypt
TIL: how *not* to cook an air fryer onion blossom
TIL there is such thing
cursive crypt
wut
ancient ingot
those errors, not sure if its broken lol
cursive crypt
Are warnings, self-explanatory. Say, after an improved compiler detection.
Shouldn't be broken.
ancient ingot
never tried building this game server on arm before lol
ancient ingot
hah thanks ๐
tulip orbit
cursive crypt
ngl, took me a half minute
tulip orbit
๐
zinc matrix
woeful cove
Is it possible to self-host ChatGPT because either OpenAI wants a phone number for ""security"" or is being used too much
cursive crypt
It is not really "Open" afaik
There older models, chatgpt-2 are available tho, iirc ๐
woeful cove
Unfortunately
cursive crypt
Note that these are quite HW hungry programmes. 16+ vram is like common, models from EleutherAI may suck up like 40+ without blinking.
woeful cove
Note that these are quite HW hungry programmes. 16+ vram is like common, models ...
even just running the model?
timber viper
Is it possible to self-host ChatGPT because either OpenAI wants a phone number f...
they also say they'll use your data explicitly
zinc matrix
Hi all, I am Viktor and I quit my school and my job to make my dream game. My games is a souls-like game with survival gameplay, it may sound weird but I believe it will be good.
I am also looking for some study buddy, we donโt work together at the same project, but we help each other and learn from each otherโs mistake along the way. Solo dev can be a very lonely and harsh journey, but it doesnโt have to be.
wintry skiff
Sup. You already posted this in #introductions
primal summit
I hope you have a couple years' worth of expenses saved, because that seems like some poor choices as worded. Best of luck.
fleet tangle
Sounds like living off the parents time to me
Not that I've never been guilty of that!
wintry skiff
Hi all, I am Viktor and I quit my school and my job to make my dream game. My ga...
In any case, good for you and hopefully it works out. Game dev can be very fun and rewarding despite its challenges.
zinc matrix
Well, if you guys really think about it, living expenses is much cheaper than university expenses, and you can learn at least 4x faster. Trust me when I said what I learned in the last 4 months of self-study is more worth than what they teach me my entire life.
But yes, convince my Asian parents that I will throw away the university degree to do something sound stupid to them is hell of a story.
proud jay
well it's taking a big risk
and you can only measure yourself against yourself, who said what you learnt in those months is useful and a college would not have thought you faster or better
not saying higher education is the way for everyone
but it is a solid path
and provides a good basis, depending on the education
not too mention that a uni degree makes working abroad a lot easier
fleet tangle
The one good thing about higher education is that you get a certificate to say you've done it at the end.
Self study doesn't provide that.
zinc matrix
You don't need a degree if you gonna startup.
timber viper
2020-2022 times of #cpp > any university tbh
having networks around the industry can provide more than a university
at least if you already have some amount of experience
proud jay
You don't need a degree if you gonna startup.
most startups fail though
not saying you will
just statistically speaking
timber viper
just dont be like ditere's ex-boss
zinc matrix
just dont be like ditere's ex-boss
whats wrong w him
proud jay
he was an incompetent dumbass that ran the company and everyone's morale into the ground
timber viper
whats wrong w him
proud jay
those were the days
zinc matrix
lmao "a minute for meditation"
zinc matrix
I hope you have a couple years' worth of expenses saved, because that seems like...
couple years might be very optimistic estimation for souls-like open world survival game done by solo developer whos new to the engine. but i agree.
zinc matrix
couple years might be very optimistic estimation for souls-like open world survi...
i mean i am asking this question to myself all the time. What is actually the parameter to calculate the amount of time it would take>
fleet tangle
For a solo developer to make a good souls game? I'd say a decade.
zinc matrix
everyone just saying years and years, but i dont really believe it
wintry skiff
At least you're on the path to finding out
fleet tangle
If you knew how hard making a simple game is, you would believe it.
zinc matrix
yea, i would say decade too ๐
alright no bullshit handdown number here
this dude solo dev a game in 1 year and sold it for 3 millions dollar. All made in blueprint
how about that
zinc matrix
a souls game but the whole map is procedural generated
fleet tangle
I expect he had either a lot of money to pay for people to make assets for him or he was mostly a good artist.
zinc matrix
technically my game is possible to do in under a year
fleet tangle
A game is simple, really. It's assets that take time. Setting up environments, animations, etc.
You can write a souls vertical slice in a week probably.
But that'll have blocked out graphics, 1 enemy, limited attacks, etc.
Going from that to a fully fledged game is the hard part. Especially open world.
Writing story is a pain too.
zinc matrix
jesus, im not making AAA game. Just buy some asset and slap some customization
worst scenario, hire some cheap artist
fleet tangle
Just because it's not AAA doesn't mean it's not hard.
zinc matrix
there is always some hidden smart ways around everything, i believe
proud jay
everything comes with experience
my grandmother always used to say, don't start you game dev journey on an MMORPG with a 6 month time frame
proud jay
releasing any kind of game that is story or environment driven in a year is very ambitious though
zinc matrix
experience is crucial tho. Cant be a CEO if you are more stupid than ur employee
proud jay
somehting more arcady or with limited game loop would be possible
celest musk
releasing any kind of game that has some content and isn't a casual game is probably taking over a year
proud jay
experience is crucial tho. Cant be a CEO if you are more stupid than ur employee
enough examples to prove this wrong
celest musk
specially if you are new to the engine / dev environment
fleet tangle
experience is crucial tho. Cant be a CEO if you are more stupid than ur employee
Sure you can. It just takes money. ๐
proud jay
or connections
zinc matrix
somehting more arcady or with limited game loop would be possible
yeah i think so too, so i design a game without any story
each time you die, you lose a percentage of all loot/exp/base building
and the whole map gonna procedural generated
proud jay
how is it souls like then
souls is very environmental story driven
everything is about the vibe
celest musk
procedural is overrated
zinc matrix
dark souls is the game that have a lot of way to play around the game
you can be smart
because the game let you be smart
thats what i mean when i said souls-like, and obviously its hard too
celest musk
or it's intended and they want you to feel smart
which is their selling point
you wont sell a game that players hate
zinc matrix
imagine playing witcher 3 but you trying to fight a dark soul boss and use environment
proud jay
so what is your idea, beyond dark souls survival
wintry skiff
Unless you get it on Game Pass
celest musk
Unless you get it on Game Pass
guess you have to make something very popular to be considered for game pass as indie, or you get a shitty deal
zinc matrix
so what is your idea, beyond dark souls survival
I am thinking of a maze runner environment with wall and tiles
a bunch of crazy ideas together
i feel like this kind of mixed game gonna take so much game design
to make it work
wintry skiff
guess you have to make something very popular to be considered for game pass as ...
Is Vampire Survivors indie? That game is super popular and I wonder what their cut was on Game Pass. Probably sold a ton on Steam though.
fleet tangle
Is Vampire Survivors indie? That game is super popular and I wonder what their c...
Funny thing is, the game is free to play on some web-based platform.
I forget which
zinc matrix
translates to 20 hours of gameplay and 180 hours standing still with afk build ๐
that game look like it was released 10 years ago, how tf it selled so many copies
fleet tangle
Because it's good.
You don't even fire any weapons, they're all automatic.
All you do is move.
zinc matrix
making money nowadays so ez
imagine Walter White being a criminal for years just to get 2-3 millions
he should have learned game dev
celest musk
i bet 99% throw the towel at some point, either because they lost their mind or their savings
wintry skiff
That wouldn't surprise me
zinc matrix
iirc that vampire dude worked on gambling industry, so he probably knows couple tricks how to get people hooked on something ๐
celest musk
lately i saw an UE course on udemy, 70.000x sold
those who sell the shovels got rich in the gold rush
i feel like the same goes for asset/course creators
primal summit
couple years might be very optimistic estimation for souls-like open world survi...
My assumption was looking at progress after one year, it gives enough buffer to find investors or a day job.
zinc matrix
those who sell the shovels got rich in the gold rush
damn.. now you put it that way, i cant unseen it
primal summit
and the whole map gonna procedural generated
You'll still have to walk the whole map and make manual adjustments, and build the story around the map instead of the other way. Making a map flow well is hard.
fleet tangle
And making a procedurally generated map flow well is nigh on impossible.
For that kind of game, at least.
celest musk
And making a procedurally generated map flow well is nigh on impossible.
you never played minecraft, right? ๐
primal summit
for any game
primal summit
haven't seen a procedurally generated map game have good maps ever
fleet tangle
you never played minecraft, right? ๐
There are exceptions, of course. ๐ And is Minecraft a souls like game? Not really!
zinc matrix
haven't seen a procedurally generated map game have good maps ever
you will, in 1 more year
celest musk
well, you can play minecraft on hardcore mode
fleet tangle
The graphical style of minecraft gives it an edge in the procedural generation game
celest musk
when you die, your savegame is RIP
primal summit
you never played minecraft, right? ๐
hah, those don't flow well. Snow and desert adjacent?
celest musk
mods fix that mostly
primal summit
you will, in 1 more year
best of luck and do share!
fleet tangle
Technically the (ant)arctic is a desert. So snow and desert do go together ๐
celest musk
sure, minecraft world gen isn't perfect, there's some small flaws here and there, but overall they made it pretty well
zinc matrix
best of luck and do share!
if i ever have to share my game with you, it is because my marketing skill is not good enough
primal summit
I like your attitude in general, @zinc matrix, but I suspect it'll get tamped down with the burdens of the work involved in due time. I hope to be wrong.
primal summit
if i ever have to share my game with you, it is because my marketing skill is no...
odds are good I'll never know it's yours nor find it myself, I like some kinds of survival crafting games, but not all, and souls-style games hold no appeal to me.
celest musk
i feel like dev work is like that hardware failure rate bathtub curve
you start with high motivation and progress feels well/fast
then you end up fixing complex systems in the middle of the curve
and the red part is where it gets close to release and motivation might spike again ๐
and the failure rate applies to the dev, too
either you fail early, or you are burnt (or burned?) out at the end ๐
zinc matrix
either you fail early, or you are burnt (or burned?) out at the end ๐
or ur the real diamond
primal summit
or ur the real diamond
Diamonds burn leaving no residue, only carbon dioxide. They also dissolve in contact with iron and steel.
celest musk
The Infernal Software System
Unfortunately there are software systems that never enter the Operational Lifetime phase โ they go directly from the Initial Phase to the Terminal Phase.
https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C5112AQGm7kgDQytPAw/article-inline_image-shrink_400_744/0/1520214322561?e=1682553600&v=beta&t=qphH6lgBUePbGWsdzK_zquaUyg-BAixLBblAoEs8z2w
xD
primal summit
it's a smiley face!
fleet tangle
With appropriate blood vessels popping in the terminal phase.
fleet tangle
Except it's on linkedin.
celest musk
tulip orbit
Hmm. According to my todo list, I still need to do my tech/skill tree, save system, and the player equip/stat screen. But everything I've done so far has been really hindered by having no animations or content....
decisions decisions
zinc matrix
dont do animations. ive heard horror stories about them....
tacit citrus
broken sigil
tbh you are making me hungry, kinda want a strawberry now, but it's 4am so that's kinda a problem ๐
zinc matrix
i prefer green strawberries
unborn lotus
you have to pick homegrown strawberries in one like day or they'll be overrun by tiny slugs
fluid bloom
The white one is called an Alpine Berry
it's not raw?
tacit citrus
Naw, that's fully matured. Warm, soft strawberry picked mid summer. Sweetest strawberry you can grow.
That's the biggest size they grow.
fluid bloom
those small ones are all alpine berries it seems
they tend to grow all over the place in Finland
tulip orbit
Seeing all the amazing artwork that shows up on my twitter feed is depressing. My town is currently just a bunch of cubes ๐ฆ
proud jay
Are you making it in minecraft
lyric pulsar
cursive crypt
Seeing all the amazing artwork that shows up on my twitter feed is depressing. ...
You are doing it right. First you place level design cubes, then... you add more cubes.
tulip orbit
yeah but what kind of cubes? big cubes? small cubes?
cursive crypt
Don't overthink it. Slap cubes.
prisma tapir
cubegrid do be useful
prisma tapir
I tried to go at it too early, I went back to text and map layout now first
proud jay
greenman is blue man imposter
prisma tapir
starting in blockout mode is fine for gameplay focused maps where the most important stuff is balance but trying to make a realistic space that feels like it's actually a place is tough lol
how dare u
but yeah that's how I feel right now atleast, it's definitely a learning experience trying to design a space that would (somewhat) work in real life
tulip orbit
yup. I think my town's rough layout is ok, tho its not done, but the sizing may be all wrong once I actually start make the cubes into buildings with interiors
everything is either going to be way too big, or way too small
tulip orbit
๐ฉ
soft night
i have health check for health finland survay
being selected from 10 k of citizens yeah
tulip orbit
if(!isDead){health = good;}
soft night
well health checks for anythings is good
is your interior healthy as what go to using space
this include blood test, and more thest
1ยฝ to 2 hour lenght so lots of tests and study it seems on that period
tulip orbit
eat lots of sugar and fatty meats before the test, throw their stats off
soft night
that is very american way of thinking
tulip orbit
how rude!
cursive crypt
Prescription: Less use of Unreal
tulip orbit
and americans do it all the time, regardless. so not really
regal pecan
stay away from vodka, throw off their statistics?
tulip orbit
ride your bike off a cliff, hobble into the clinic, and just say, "this is normal" to throw off their statistics
soft night
proud jay
say you don't like salmiakki to throw off their statistics
and pretend like finnish is a real language
cursive crypt
Nah, he has rainbow glasses.
timber viper
and a beard
cursive crypt
and a beard
proud jay
where glasses
cursive crypt
Masked material
proud jay
I see
lyric pulsar
bleak remnant
Ok
ancient ingot
๐
warm bloom
you're obviously being very misled if you think the streaming services "support" the creators
proud jay
wtf
that dude sells dog meat
and claims it's vegan
ah is fake
vegan ad
still not vegan
warm bloom
is it gay to eat meat
100%
ancient ingot
i eat meat all the time ๐
warm bloom
it would be better with some meat ๐๐ฅ ๐ณ
zinc matrix
Okay now what the fuck
soft night
fluid bloom
he likes to gobble up that meat
soft night
proud jay
soft night
bleak remnant
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soft night
well outside was -11C me wearing n7 jacket what tops that shirt too