#lounge

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deep copper
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not links or online chats

tribal kraken
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Again, running around with QR codes is not as simple as saying "look up x on y"

unreal ether
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Then follow some itch seo

deep copper
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like going to a friend and saying what it's called

tribal kraken
unreal ether
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And we gave you methods

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So you do care about marketing

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Because that's part of merketing

tribal kraken
# unreal ether Because that's part of merketing

And I said already, GameJolt does the exact thing. I was complaining about itch specifically. GameJolt shows up my game just fine. Ididn't ask for help, because I don't need help anymore. I was just complaining to let off steam

unreal ether
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But hey your issue is solved now

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Eh you do you.

tribal kraken
deep copper
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it's all free actually

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seo is basically adding the correct text or tags i think, not full on ads

unreal ether
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SEO has a lot to it.

deep copper
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seo is the fundamental of search ranking, a part of marketing

thin aspen
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Is the name of the game dark depths? Because nothing comes up on game jolt when I look and Google gives me like 5 different dark depths

unborn lotus
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Aka twitter gifs

unreal ether
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Almost like I said it might be hard to find your game when many others have the same name

tribal kraken
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Apparently bendy game has the same title, which kinda sucks, since I haven't seen it before titling the game

unreal ether
thin aspen
tribal kraken
deep copper
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is it restricted by region or something

tribal kraken
deep copper
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either way, definitely look into seo for games, it will help you in the next game / demo thing

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just a 30 min skim through should be enough for a general idea

unreal ether
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Nooo that's marketing!

tribal kraken
# thin aspen

nope. I can see it just fine on my phone. Maybe it's regional

thin aspen
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Oh whale

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I was interested to see what it was though

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The world may never know

tribal kraken
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As I said: If I was good at naming things I'd be in the marketing branch, which clearly I'm not

deep copper
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marketing has kinda changed in recent years btw, i think it is more about sending the right product to the right person now that just selling stuff and ads, which is why search ranking is a part of it, even if it's not a paid ad

tribal kraken
deep copper
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stuff is getting competitive so simple stuff can no longer show up easily

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a lot of brilliant things get lost because it can't rank against longer posts

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which have more ranking power

tribal kraken
unreal ether
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For your free project there are a thousand more

tribal kraken
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isn't that nice :)

unreal ether
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Arguable free is more competitive than paid

unreal ether
unborn lotus
deep copper
unreal ether
unborn lotus
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You know what I'd do? Pivot to another platform and another genre. My 5 year old likes games on poki that are free but a ton of them are just horrendous...yet there's a ton of traffic on them

tribal kraken
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If I wanted money or recognition, going into freelance for other studio would be a better goal tbh. Indie dev is fun, but historically not grateful

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also, side note, itch didn't show my game even if sorted by new, which shouldn't be managed by any algorithm at all, since finding new projects is the point of it

deep copper
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maybe it is also region locked in your region

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or it is still going through some moderation pass

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or it's private somehow

tribal kraken
# deep copper or it's private somehow

Well, I checked their support page and for all I know I should qualify for index, but I did hear from my Hindu friend (who got a direct link), that itch gives him a warning that the game was released in Poland, so maybe they did shadowban it or something for some reason

deep copper
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are you in poland ?

tribal kraken
deep copper
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hmmm

tribal kraken
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I mean released as in "published from"

deep copper
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i see i see, it does feel like some sort of "still not qualified" thing

tribal kraken
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I don't see it when sorting by new either

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games released after mine come up, but mine doesn't

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one game was just straight copy-paste of Fnaf 1

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just uploaded to itch

thin aspen
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You mean newer games show up when sorting by new?

tribal kraken
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let me check

thin aspen
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It got number 2 for me, but it definitely shows up

tribal kraken
# tribal kraken let me check

Sorry, can't see it. The 1st thing is a blog post about the game, but not the game, which is just kinda sad, the second is my own profile

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aye, that's the blog post

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it even mentions my issues with the search lol

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I guess? But still, feels stupid that a random post about a game shows up before the game itself

deep copper
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just to be clear, your blog thing has the link to the game right?

tribal kraken
deep copper
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online presence takes time, don't worry, keep sharing it here and there, maybe occasionally post gameplay vids on yt shorts or reddit or somewhere like insta (?) too

thin aspen
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You know what would be great right now

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Some chicken

deep copper
tribal kraken
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As I said, the thing didn't show up when sorting by new. An illegal fnaf upload was shown before my actual game in itch sorting by newest releases, even though I searched the exact name. It's hard to not take personally when website shows pirated game copies over an actual game you spent time on

thin aspen
tribal kraken
# thin aspen Some chicken

I found a DIY-3-step chicken nugget dough packet at my local store and I've been making making chicken at least once a week ever since. It has no right to taste as good as it does

honest siren
tribal kraken
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That does get rid of the copy, sure, but doesn't get my game to show up, since (as I said multiple times) it doesn't show up at all

deep copper
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i read some forum post from years ago and it seems like weekends or holidays (new year?) can delay indexing

honest siren
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@timber viper

thin aspen
deep copper
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but it's still odd for fanf game to show up first

honest siren
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I'm coming on january 8

tribal kraken
deep copper
tribal kraken
timber viper
tribal kraken
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I'd need to somehow send the link to that system, which means either a pendrive with a txt or I'd have to manually type it in

deep copper
thin aspen
honest siren
tribal kraken
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I'm not typing in a damn link into a searchbar. It's not 1987

timber viper
thin aspen
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Stop “uwu”-ing about “waifus” at work this is a professional environment

deep copper
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use a url shortner you mean? does itch have it by default ?

thin aspen
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Shoes and makeup

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Only acceptable topics

tribal kraken
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Why are you so hooked up on that? The issue was solved before I even said anything here. I was just complaining about itch taking forever to index my stuff

timber viper
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@sand oxide got attacked by BTs, another trauma added to the list

deep copper
thin aspen
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I’m gonna need you to speak with HR

ancient ingot
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Laura! 🌹

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🫂

deep copper
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why is this allowed but not me

thin aspen
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Because

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This is as nature intended it

deep copper
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hmm

thin aspen
timber viper
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DS never uses more than 6gb ram and never reaches 50% on cpu utilization on a scene like this

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i guess 6gb ram limit is related with PS4 - thats what you can get

cursive crypt
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u simpin'

thin aspen
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Go take a shower bro

deep copper
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most innuendos are just people making stuff up, I don't have a big vocabulary so it does leads to misunderstandings

thin aspen
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Just type in your native language then

deep copper
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i speak me native language worse

timber viper
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when you randomly start to sprint from idle it eats 10% more cpu then decays back, i gues some cpu caching happening

deep copper
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my*

timber viper
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maybe movement is completely on another thread Thonk

thin aspen
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Not you, you’re supposed to be speaking to HR

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Laura is American confirmed

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Brits say okay

timber viper
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ok is also Turkish

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means arrow

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Laura is Turkish confirmed

deep copper
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i only mean about 50% of it, and that too to a lower degree, i have come to realise people often think of way too exaggerated things even if I didn't intend it to be of that extent

thin aspen
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Turkish American, who would have thought

timber viper
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Too many speculations

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Turkish American German and Alien

thin aspen
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TAAG

deep copper
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taga based on the order

slate drift
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It's really sad I will take it off tomorrow 😦

thin aspen
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This baby thing won’t let me get up

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It’s making playing Skyrim more difficult than I hoped

slate drift
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That's kept unconditionally

timber viper
timber viper
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in DC universe i'm not sure what would happen

thin aspen
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I was able to escape the grasp of the child

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Thanks for all your help Laura

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I thought we were better than that

warm bloom
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what even is this chat

thin aspen
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Okay fine we can add babies and cute stuff to the list of acceptable topics

ancient ingot
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Awwww

thin aspen
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I’m almost positive that’s why my cat is trying to coax me into the backyard

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I haven’t gone to investigate yet though

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He’s a slut cat

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Similar to slut dragons but just in cat form

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We finally have insight on why detroit roads are similar to the moons surface

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I had one of those as a kid. Good times

ancient ingot
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Lol

thin aspen
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No I wasn’t allowed to use glass

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I had this terrible habit of dropping them and stepping in the glass

unreal ether
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youd think detroit has a handle on it being an industry capital and all that

deep copper
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it's catching up

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now ads will have infinite poly

unreal ether
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they really went original for that name

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how can we get as close to nanite without getting screwed by epic

unreal ether
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its the motor city

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has a hell of a lot of industry there

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youd think for the car place theyd have good roads

thin aspen
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Cars haven’t been made in the city of Detroit in like 50 years

unreal ether
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nah thats sheffield

thin aspen
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Toledo is the glass city

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Since we were talking about glass earlier

thin aspen
unreal ether
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oh really? how come?

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that makes sense

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why did the auto industry leave detroit?

thin aspen
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Lol that’s probably not a topic appropriate for the server

unreal ether
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ah makes sense

thin aspen
# unreal ether o_O

Yeah it’s a dark history everyone here knows but nobody wants to talk about.

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PASCAL*

unreal ether
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so i googled it and it appears the answer is politics, so im gonna stop googling it because i dont want to be sad today

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lets move on to a better detroit topic which is their pizza

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never had detroit style pizza but it looks 10/10

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never heard of it

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will have to have a look later

foggy path
unreal ether
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now that is.. something

foggy path
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DMC is great

unreal ether
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bit of a career change there

thin aspen
unreal ether
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kinda like paramedic to hitman

foggy path
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lol yeah

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waiting for Krauzer in Aggretsuko

thin aspen
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Japan and Detroit have an interesting history with eachother

foggy path
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Do they

thin aspen
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They do

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Well maybe not interesting but it’s not a connection you’d think to see

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Most of them moved to the suburbs but they used to live in midtown.

bleak remnant
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Go outside and you can view 5 different stories exactly like this

unreal ether
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false

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just went outside

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all i found was mud

deep copper
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it was too cold so i went back in

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Renner was run over by his own snow plough, which weighs at least 14,330lb (6.5 tonnes) - three times as heavy as a car - the local sheriff said.
some avenger guy got hurt

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ken block died of snow vehicle too 🤔 be careful of snow and vehicles guys

warm bloom
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oh my god

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how does one survive being ran over by a snow plough

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how does one even get ran over by a snow plough

deep copper
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it seems he parked it somewhere

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it slid and hit him

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or something

fleet tangle
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You could say, it ploughed right into him.

deep copper
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he seems rather okay based off of pics, but i mean, i have seen him more injured in movies i think

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so i guess it's rather bad

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but he is alive

unborn lotus
deep copper
proud jay
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The 27 club expanded?

deep copper
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27 club?

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are you interested in a hug?

slim atlas
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i am the best

cursive crypt
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What kind of freako decided it is nice to add tons of chilli in instant noodles? My ass is on fire 🔥

cursive crypt
autumn slate
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Hello! I really want to learn the basics of UE5, is there anyone that can give me a hand?

broken sigil
fleet tangle
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And people seem to think a whole forum dedicated to useful information might get used when people can't even click on pins.

bleak remnant
bleak remnant
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Oh

cursive crypt
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30xx

unreal ether
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Everyone knows the real gaming card is the passively cooled GT 1030

broken sigil
zinc matrix
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i had to paint the wrists, otherwise discord didnt let me post it lul

steady fox
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I just had sleep from 130 am till 8 30am, yall jealous?

soft night
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i just slept 1min 20seconds what felt like 7hours

remote fog
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Won’t last long though

soft fulcrum
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aco

steady fox
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Guess ill get up and get to work on replicating the instruments

timber viper
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i need a 30 hours of sleep

timber viper
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works for me

steady fox
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Wrists are now sexual

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"Oh yeah babe look at those arteries"

zinc matrix
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weird that the filter only gets triggered from white skin.. kappa_ross

timber viper
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twitter algorithm ignores black people directly

steady fox
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"Oh you're missing a tendon? I love how you're evolved its so sexy"

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I should do another crazy ai story and voice it again

steady fox
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Just gamedev instead

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Damn artists are eating each other alive

zinc matrix
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"programmers" are next on the list..

trail wedge
steady fox
trail wedge
steady fox
trail wedge
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Is that going to let the mods control the order of pinned posts or how many the limit is

trail wedge
steady fox
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You would have to gather what the most asked question is

trail wedge
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#cpp has been rationing pins for a while and important stuff keeps getting buried. That was the context of this conversation

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it was in #cpp with BlueMan a few days ago

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Daekesh was brining it back up

steady fox
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Sounds like it needs an automated house keeping

trail wedge
trail wedge
steady fox
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I would just use another channel

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Then people can link it

trail wedge
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right that was the whole suggestion

quasi mantle
steady fox
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Like an external link

steady fox
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I just mute everything

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Neat

trail wedge
trail wedge
steady fox
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Right I didn't know discord had them, should've named them something else

quasi mantle
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It has resemblance to forums

trail wedge
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they're pretty new to be fair

steady fox
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I can't wait for ai to generate me 3d models

trail wedge
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Anyway the idea is something like #1054845249945616404 but controlled/posted in by the mods instead of the community

trail wedge
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soon tho

terse wasp
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I welcome my overlords

trail wedge
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nah the whole reason you program to begin with is to avoid doing future work..... it was always about automation, this is just 1 step closer to the goal

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then we'll use that automation to automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will automate the automation which will...

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lol was talking to Duro... you don't just give up and let your creations control you

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normally I'd be a hard sell but as a fire elemental heated seats are kinda my jam

warm bloom
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we do need ai for that

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to take pictures of my ass every second

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and have datasets based on clenching movement and heat signature

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to automatically adjust it to the best temperature

quasi mantle
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Those ne'er-do-wells at SFC is whining again smfh

primal summit
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anyone read about the toilet with the camera and stool sample system built in?

quasi mantle
primal summit
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it's a thing

warm bloom
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thats honestly a great product

steady fox
quasi mantle
steady fox
deep glen
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yes, lets suggest ripping

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<_<

quasi mantle
steady fox
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I don't have that kind of time when the world needs more dootin'

quasi mantle
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Though I guess my rigging knowledge is illegal now

timber viper
quasi mantle
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Not going to be true to anime show rendition, I don't think the series has any 3D game spinoff

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Then it's a matter of learning whatever DS is doing with the rig

timber viper
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Its quite insane probably

quasi mantle
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Though I highly doubt rigging workflow is patented, so I'd still learn new stuff along the way.

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Also apparently DS was free on Epic, which if that's the case, then I missed the boat

steady fox
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Auto rig via mixamo

quasi mantle
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Eh, could buy it on Steam sometime

quasi mantle
timber viper
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You can patent a humanoid rig model?? 🤔

quasi mantle
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AccuRig FTW

steady fox
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I would like an auto rig for ue5

quasi mantle
timber viper
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Well I would totally patent my rig if it was made for Norman Reduus or mad mikkelsen lol

quasi mantle
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But even then my rigging knowledge already comes from sources that some would deem illegal anyway, so what the hell

regal pecan
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Quite a few careers were made from such.

timber viper
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I need to port aloy's animation into DS then change the model to Hayasaka

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Then find a few laurahourlyrates and ask voice actor of Hayasaka to replace voice of Norman

quasi mantle
timber viper
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Haha awesome

deep glen
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the pokemon in elden ring really got me

quasi mantle
deep glen
timber viper
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You think I wont add a character to my game that holds the chickens?

deep glen
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hehe

quasi mantle
deep glen
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make it a secret superOP boss.
"dont touch my chickens"
"I said, dont touch my chickens"
"Last warning pal"
OP bossfight

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"Banhammer of infinite time +2 AOE attack"

quasi mantle
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IIRC it was a FPS game and allows you to pick up chickens and throw them (if not shooting eggs)

Though I might misremembering that with something else

deep glen
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hmm.
I should pay someone to draw me as link, holding a cuckoo

quasi mantle
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I might remembering Heretic, doesn't pick up chickens but convert enemies into one

timber viper
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Postal 2 Maybe

deep glen
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same in windwaker

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no not windwaker

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uhm

quasi mantle
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Oh right

ZELDA N64

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I misremembered again

deep glen
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ah yea, links awakening

quasi mantle
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play Heretic btw

bleak remnant
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pog

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gers

deep glen
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ikr

bleak remnant
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ok

quasi mantle
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That was a shit show.

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Even in bad day thursday I keep making puns.

timber viper
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Your services wont be forgotten

quasi mantle
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Petition Epic to bring back tessellation so that we can misuse it again

steady fox
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Apparently reddit is wild

quasi mantle
steady fox
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I always hated tessellation

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performance hog

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looks like pure shit

quasi mantle
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starts threatening everyone with cat silenced gun for not signing the petition

steady fox
deep glen
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say no to tesselation XD

quasi mantle
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DX11 Tessellation is part of my gene and my meme, it runs through my blood vein

deep glen
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"You wouldnt tesselate a car"

quasi mantle
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The memes, Jack!

deep glen
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"this is your brain on tesselation"

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would a tesselated brain be a smooth brain?

quasi mantle
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My POM brain can't think of that

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Checkmate, Nanite-ists.

zinc matrix
quasi mantle
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Didn't even know the stopwatch running this whole time

quasi mantle
zinc matrix
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can always use proc meshes with geo mipmapping kappa_ross

quasi mantle
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I mean, Nanite, which decimate meshes on the fly, is apparently too powerful for them, while also still too reliant on tessellation, which adds extra tris on the fly

zinc matrix
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could also be as simple as targeting on low end hw. who knows.

quasi mantle
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If they do, they shouldn't rely on tessellation

zinc matrix
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how so?

deep glen
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tess is heavy on perf. not really suited for low end

quasi mantle
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Also back when it was still fresh, DX11 was supposed to be a perk for higher end hardware at the time

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Nanite is doing the opposite by decimating high poly mesh on the fly

zinc matrix
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i ran it fine with 780, didnt notice any serious perf hits. didnt tessellate everything though.

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i think nanite might have more hit on potato cards 😄

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but eh, you can always use other tool that still supports it

steady fox
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Very good, people will be dootin' soon multiplayer style

zinc matrix
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"100 dooters are dropped in island.." seems good to me

steady fox
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I have these bear assets, I might use them for this, bears that doot around would be pretty funny

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lmao

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I don't know what to change the MC to so I'll go with bears

broken sigil
steady fox
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I'll grab him too

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I think it would be hilarious to have the player have to go walk mode to fire the instrument, then sprint on all 4s

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I'll start with borris at least

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Maybe, i'm not sure, I need to improve my system, I spotted some redundancies when I was manually migrating it

cursive crypt
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Can't count on dx12 still tho...

quasi mantle
cursive crypt
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Wdym?

quasi mantle
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Even Microsoft docs suggest you to learn DX11 first before DX12

DX12/Vulkan/Metal is much more complicated in nature, and going lower level (arguably below driver level)

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Hence why runtime shader compiling is a thing now

cursive crypt
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It is still driver level, more complicated yeah, but closer to the truth. Anyway, I am still ranting about UEs bugs with dx12

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Shoo, dx12 sux

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broken loop

quasi mantle
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It's like PS triple all over again

cursive crypt
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Vulkan at least doesn't crash

fleet tangle
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Some days.

cursive crypt
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When sane debug btw

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Yeah, sure. Talking about UE here

warm bloom
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direct x

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what is this x

cursive crypt
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And series of unfortunate events

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Direct xrash

warm bloom
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shitbox?

steady fox
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To pants or not to pants

zinc matrix
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its -22C outside, i would go with pants

quasi mantle
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I don't really like wearing shorts tbh, especially since my knees have lots of scars

steady fox
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it's like 20c today

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I live alone it's my b'day, underwear it is

steady fox
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If you're not deving in your underwear are you really devving?

zinc matrix
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thats in video game ben 😄

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oh, well..

cursive crypt
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mm... no, lets talk about gpu debugging

broken sigil
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Removed since some people are not happy with it

celest musk
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wow

cursive crypt
celest musk
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it's even legal in some states/countries (but so is owning a gun :D)

thin aspen
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You just flushed my case down the drain

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Now I’ll never make director of the DEA

celest musk
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no, but i'm pretty sure no one would give a damn if someone posted alcohol here

cursive crypt
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Cake went away too

broken sigil
cursive crypt
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lounge getting wiped today twice

honest siren
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I just posted a plant photo here, why was it deleted?

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@broken sigil

cursive crypt
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And there we go, the oblivious

broken sigil
honest siren
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thankss

steady fox
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I dev to c64 music, like a proper old fart

cursive crypt
broken sigil
celest musk
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ok, sounds fair

celest musk
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i even have to admit it as rider user^

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it's crashing so much lately 😭

broken sigil
celest musk
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beside of that, it's the superior IDE

cursive crypt
zinc matrix
celest musk
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then i did everything right i guess

broken sigil
# celest musk it's crashing so much lately 😭

I'm starting to think something might be interfering with it
Did you add exception to the antivirus, I didn't have to but for some it can apparently cause big issues

If you run Rider as admin it will ask you to do it for you

quasi mantle
zinc matrix
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or ask google..

celest musk
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i wonder... do you get crashs on windows, too?

quasi mantle
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Do your own goddamn research!

celest musk
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i think the backend is crashing for some reason

broken sigil
celest musk
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yea it was reasonable stable for me, too. not sure why it suddenly isn't anymore ;/

quasi mantle
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Stupid question exists, and it should be berated to the ground, and stay earthbound

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Using Google to do image reverse search is not hard, I can teach toddler to do it in one day

zinc matrix
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eap has been pretty stable for me, but i only use it like 1-2 times per month to remind me that theres better options 🙂

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i like the minimal ui they introduced sometime ago though

broken sigil
honest siren
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sorry

celest musk
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but i tested 2022.3.1

quasi mantle
cursive crypt
honest siren
celest musk
quasi mantle
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That is just inexcusable.

broken sigil
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@quasi mantle@honest siren
Lets stop
There is 0 reason to argue about this here

quasi mantle
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Good.

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Thank you.

honest siren
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I think I did something very wrong. I didn't know that, I'm so sorry to everyone

cursive crypt
#

I want drama (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

quasi mantle
#

I won't forgive you but it is what it is.

quasi mantle
zinc matrix
#

^its funny because its true

#

wait.. comp science or counter strike?

quasi mantle
zinc matrix
#

true

quasi mantle
#

Doesn't really matter

#

The ones trying to be nice with stupid questions are yeeted to the ground, so no questions should be asked.

#

The spirit is always keeping it to yourself

zinc matrix
#

the ones who might know something or think they do, are basically dicks 😄

steady fox
quasi mantle
cursive crypt
quasi mantle
#

I gave up trying to do the opposite

#

Can't be helped, can't be changed, might as well join the flow

steady fox
#

I think people here need to dev whip crack

#

just ate a sandwhich and back to improving my mutliplayer

quasi mantle
#

Alcoholism and assholism flowing through the vein

#

Rant over.

#

If you don't know what something is, Google it. If Google don't know what it is, then don't ask.

zinc matrix
#

duck it

celest musk
#

ask chatgpt

quasi mantle
#

Even if ChatGPT is wrong, believe it blindly.

celest musk
#

that was a joke

zinc matrix
#

1 more poor choice and ben has full hand, woo!

celest musk
#

but im curious how you would describe the picture

#

without knowing what it is

steady fox
#

This isn't game dev, get to it

quasi mantle
unreal ether
quasi mantle
#

Somebody doesn't know what it is - even if they're genuinely doesn't know, they'll be damned.

celest musk
#

idk, would you really associate the term bud with a plant if you didnt knew already?

honest siren
#

Did someone get banned because of me?

honest siren
#

What is the "cake"?

quasi mantle
#

The cake is a lie

unreal ether
#

i have a small leaved lime in my garden and it has very beautiful buds around spring

quasi mantle
#

Just like how we said "have fun"

unreal ether
#

i also like the buds of the pussy willow

zinc matrix
honest siren
celest musk
zinc matrix
#

yes

quasi mantle
cursive crypt
honest siren
quasi mantle
#

Asking questions is way too risky these days, it's not worth the effort even if you're genuinely out of the loop.

#

I was just frustrated on how questions can led to repercussions.

steady fox
#

You need some sleep

quasi mantle
steady fox
#

Would you say this cat expresses it?

honest siren
cursive crypt
#

Ah, I might do when we get to know each other better.

quasi mantle
#

I generally don't accept requests from someone I barely knew

cursive crypt
#

Uhm, don't. All is fine 👍

quasi mantle
#

Though my DM is open, just the matter of going through the request.

steady fox
#

I'll be everyone's friend, though I don't reply to dms very often cause it's time consuming and I'm dooting

honest siren
cursive crypt
#

Imma put you in the affectionate group

quasi mantle
#

Now you all know why I rarely ask on #cpp even if the problem stopped me from making progress

cursive crypt
zinc matrix
#

^thats toxic place

quasi mantle
#

I can say the same with many other programming forums in general

#

It's just unchangeable

cursive crypt
steady fox
quasi mantle
#

Nothing personal, friendo.
smashes the ban hammer

steady fox
#

you asking more questions will just exacerbate the situation

honest siren
#

okay

steady fox
#

yes exacerbate, never used that word before

quasi mantle
steady fox
#

the common ground is at peace once again

quasi mantle
#

Sucks, but that's just how it goes

#

It's futile to try change it

cursive crypt
#

embrace failure

quasi mantle
#

Even at home with family, you're not supposed to ask something about sex education

broken sigil
quasi mantle
#

Some questions just need to remain unanswered.

cursive crypt
#

Live in the shadows.

steady fox
#

Bing chilling

quasi mantle
steady fox
#

I still like that meme

cursive crypt
#

BM catching up with the convo, lol

steady fox
honest siren
#

someone lost their cake because of me

unreal ether
quasi mantle
steady fox
#

worked a few years at a psych hospital as a security guard, never once got hit

#

other guards got hit

#

I just knew how to negotiate with the unwell

honest siren
steady fox
#

just treat people that are sick like children, and everything's ok

steady fox
broken sigil
#

lol

unreal ether
#

surely this cake thing is about everyone making hyperrealistic cakes?

quasi mantle
#

The cake is always a lie, Jack.

#

"You fall for people saying "have fun" and you pay the price yourself!"

steady fox
#

It's always diabetes

cursive crypt
#

Why is everyone suddenly talking about cakes? Fix your addiction, guys.

honest siren
#

At my old company, we tried to do ||shit|| physics for a week, I remember those moments wherever I see a cake.

cursive crypt
#

Not sure, are cakes legal to begin with?

quasi mantle
honest siren
honest siren
steady fox
#

why does fixing old code feel like you burst a pimple

zinc matrix
#

youre not using source control?

steady fox
#

why would I need to? I'm the only one doing the project

#

checking in/checking out stuff when I back up nightly is redundant for me

#

I use the perforce server if my mate joins a project i'm working on

zinc matrix
#

refactoring old crap feels better when you got backup plan 😄

steady fox
#

this is a new project that had to be migrated due to UE5 ruining itself

#

ain't no debugging gonna help me

zinc matrix
#

you debug with print strings too?

steady fox
#

See my brush from the old project? Yeah, I already attempted to find out what the issue was, it's nonexistent, and you cannot debug that type of problem, the easiest way is to start a new project.

#

It's like the translucency of the brush went, for no reason at all

#

the material it uses must've had issues, plus there was that but with nanite, which the solution was to new project

#

I wouldn't know what it would be though, I don't remember when it happened

#

I just assumed it was an upgrade error

cursive crypt
#

Laura wants to know

steady fox
#

I like to know too, but it's time consuming

zinc matrix
#

one day computers will assume, and it aint gonna be pretty

cursive crypt
#

Enter chatGPT II

steady fox
#

it won't be 5 minutes, lol

#

the project was faulty anyway, with nanite meshes being a pain with the landscape

#

Plus I have to make this multiplayer thing as a template

#

I guess but I am bad, and it's expected

#

give me a tutorial I'll look at it later

steady fox
#

Finish this weapon idea "Morbius musical instrument, the ultimate you hear morbius shoud "It's morbin time" and all the enemies in a 30m radius do that morb dance"

#

Oh I'll just make bats attack people

steady fox
broken sigil
#

Season 2 of Dark is even weirder than the first one lol

#

It just gets weirder and weirder and I like it 😅

cursive crypt
#

?

broken sigil
#

Yeah that

#

It's very messed up and really good

cursive crypt
#

I have watched it year or two ago. I just don't remember whether it was all of it.

broken sigil
#

There are 3 season at the moment

cursive crypt
#

I usually don't remember well enough movies 🙂

proud jay
#

oh yeah 2 was definitely the best though I think

#

not that I remember much details

north dragon
celest musk
#

yes JAVA_HOME=/home/ue/.gentoo/java-config-2/current-user-vm

/home/ue/.gentoo/java-config-2/current-user-vm/bin/java --version
openjdk 17.0.1 2021-10-19
#

is there any recommended java runtime?

proud jay
#

.Net

cursive crypt
#

I'm Java free since few years. Proud of it.

celest musk
#

it seems to use the bundled runtime tho

#
JetBrains Rider 2022.1.1 
Running in 64-bit mode, .NET Core runtime 6.0.3 under Unix 5.14.3.0

this is from the backend log, and the frontend also reports Runtime version: 11.0.14.1+1-b2043.45 amd64 and something about .Net 6.0.3

#

Rider.Backend[30701]: segfault at 4 ip 00007fbd4f6f237a sp 00007ffe129848d0 error 4 in libcoreclr.so[7fbd4f41b000+4e1000]

#

so this is a thing...

proud jay
#

@north dragon pls

#

why you do this to Ben

cursive crypt
#

No! I just want to say, thank you Bee the Ben for your work on Linux. It deserves love.

celest musk
#

the segfault was with rider 2022.3.1 actually, which uses net 7.0.0

#

this lib seems to be part of Net

#

thank you microsoft

#

for even making linux unstable

proud jay
#

tbh linux is not that bad

#

it's just fragmented

#

The most annoying thing for me is the low native game support, but that's just a vicious cycle of shit

#

I use linux more than windows these days at home

celest musk
#

well, we can't blame linux alone on bad game support

cursive crypt
#

corpos (who write drivers) don't feel like investing in linux gaming

celest musk
#

it's work for the devs, most linux ports i've played where worse than the windows version with proton/wine

cursive crypt
#

So, it is up to randos

celest musk
#

yea that's why nvidia has working native drivers for a decade...

celest musk
#

that doesn't matter

proud jay
#

and variety of distros

celest musk
#

which drivers are you guys missing for linux?

#

as a linux user i can't even relate to your problems 😄

cursive crypt
#

tbh, even here we didn't touched linux untill we saw some benefit from android, therefore linux support.

proud jay
#

idk man I basically only do browser stuff and coding on my linux atm

celest musk
#

but didn't implement USB HID correctly?

#

i'm pretty sure that's some standard stuff

#

also, i haven't played many games which require a drawing tablet

#

we got it

#

it wasn't clearly communicated by you till now

#

but i think/guess you don't like linux

proud jay
#

only working on OSX from now on

#

just don't update 🧠

celest musk
#

now guess why...

#

xD

#

yea...

proud jay
#

also the fact that my intellisense somehow works 10 times better in vscode on linux though

celest musk
#

maybe it's easier to find exploits if you have access to the source... but idk...

#

you could say the same about microsofts internal source

#

how comes that code leaks of microsoft often come with new exploits then?

#

i'm not saying that disclosed source is the holy grail, but if you say there's more CVEs for one than the other, then you should take into account that it's easier to tell what's written in an open book....

#

so?

#

people are also working on better algorithms to find exploits in code...

#

so after all microsoft might benefit from open source once again

proud jay
#

so why do you prefer Linux Ben

celest musk
#

i don't

#

i'm just used to it

proud jay
#

I see

#

🪟

celest musk
#

and i like the idea behind it, even tho it's mostly an utopia

cursive crypt
#

It found its place on embedded devices. Home PCs... not so much.

#

In fact, PCs

celest musk
#

yea, when i started to use linux, i was pretty much only doing crossdev for xscale, which was way more pleasant on linux at that time

#

then it sticked

cursive crypt
#

Back then, I started with BSD, felt going hardcore.

#

I still kinda prefer its design, sweet unix

celest musk
#

also did a lot of web stuff with apache/mysql/php, which also worked better on linux back then

proud jay
cursive crypt
#

no

proud jay
#

maybe it's personal to someone

cursive crypt
#

No, it is for everyone to hack into and steal your shady videos.

celest musk
#

and now UE, also works pretty well on linux, sure there are some rough edges, but it does its job

cursive crypt
#

Really? Vulkan?

celest musk
#

yes

cursive crypt
#

Nice to hear.

celest musk
#

it feels like epic was either lucky or they put more love in linux, since 5.x is way more stable than any 4.2x version before

cursive crypt
#

Hmm... lets see the trends

proud jay
#

thoughts on WSL?

celest musk
#

i don't have random crashs, vulkan pretty much supports the latest features like nanite/lumen

celest musk
cursive crypt
#

Not sure how good is the GUI support yet tho.

#

For gaming PC it is the recommended way to embrace linux

#

Even for deving, that what I use actually.

celest musk
#

well, as long as it doesn't have DRM/weirdo Anticheat, it works 99% in proton

cursive crypt
#

Heard something, but not sure how good it is. It was not supported before.

celest musk
#

so wayland made it's way... on windows 😄

proud jay
#

there's linux exlusives?

#

ah like that

#

was thinking games lol

celest musk
#

tux racer^ nvm, was ported to windows

cursive crypt
#

So it does not support hw acceleration yet?

#

Maybe on win12

#

I use wsl2 since ages.

#

dx12 under linux? 🤔

celest musk
#

i heard it's nice for people who want test their linux servers on windows

cursive crypt
#

oof

#

Anyway, this should mean games can be played, no? Vulkan.

#

or opengl

#

But you said the API is there?

#

Wdym, the linux part? It gotta draw something dammit

celest musk
#

there's probably nothing developed to use that dx12 library

cursive crypt
#

Okay, it is still more than what I expected. This means, they may push on that front later.

#

Not that it matters 🤔 Who would play games under wsl in windows?

#

On other hand, it may open the opposite direction. Porting win games to linux.

celest musk
#

soon they gonna boot in WSL and launch their native crap on top of it 😄

cursive crypt
#

That still not working. Gave up after trying it once before few months.

celest musk
#

and that's only the steam stuff, since i have to launch EGS through lutris

cursive crypt
#

tbh, I tried to launch a gui app, not a game.

celest musk
#

which? and have you tried lutris?

cursive crypt
#

From steam

celest musk
#

ah ok, then idk

#

lutris offers a bunch of installers for some apps, which pulls in dependencies

#

specially GUI stuff might need fonts, etc.

cursive crypt
#

Good to know. Tosses it in the brain hdd

celest musk
#

ark is one of those bad linux port examples...

#

originally i bought it because it had a native linux version...

#

after all i had to play the windows version with proton, because the linux version was one buggy mess

#

on the other hand there's square enix which made pretty solid native linux games, like tomb raider and just cause

white oxide
#

so ive been watching the hotel translivania films and all have the same basic story:
dracula lies to his daughter
hysteric antics ensue to cover the lie
mavis finds out and is P**sed
everything gets resolved
Dance party

warm bloom
#

I have a solution for you

proud jay
#

damn, spoilers

warm bloom
#

bang your head a few times and forget those movies are terrible

#

watch something truly good like the 5th element

proud jay
#

Laura just likes it cause she's a vampire herself

marble sparrow
warm bloom
#

I absolutely love Chris Tucker

soft night
timber viper
proud jay
#

nani

timber viper
white oxide
#

well i watch them both as a parent and movie enjoyer, and they are actually really funny, the handful of bad jokes in the movies are easily paved over as poor dialogue than just super horrible jokes

proud jay
#

I'm not architect

#

not even senior for like another month 😔

timber viper
#

your team thinks otherwise

proud jay
#

ah wait I guess I am technical architect of a project

#

true

#

already forgot lol

timber viper
#

tell me you dont take the project seriously without directly saying it

white oxide
#

a lot of films lately rely too much on the stupidest jokes that either are super repetitive or just too low to really be funny

#

especially "young kid family friendly"

honest siren
#

@timber viper Im coming to eskişehir on this sunday, accept friend request if you want

proud jay
#

also, I'm the only backend boi on that

#

so I'm architect of myself lmao

timber viper
#

yet they took your senior title away?

proud jay
#

no

#

I've never been senior

#

yet

#

this technical architect thing is a role in a project

#

not my position in the company

#

that is just software engineer

timber viper
#

ohh, so you'll be promoted next month

#

🤑

proud jay
#

normally yes

#

unless manager scams me

#

don't have to high hopes for the 🤑 though

#

there's already 11% inflation index, which they have to give legally

#

so idk if they gonna add a lot on top

#

and I've been disappointed last year

#

if this year is the same, I'm probably out of here

timber viper
#

not increasing salary when you become a senior is an insult tho

#

your responsibilities also grow i guess?

proud jay
#

well it will increase

#

question is by how much

#

on top of that 11%

warm bloom
#

I fed my miniature dragon

proud jay
timber viper
#

hopefully at least 1.5x

ancient ingot
#

🥱

proud jay
#

you need to show you can handle it before getting the promotion or something

#

idk

warm bloom
proud jay
#

I want money

ancient ingot
#

noo my brain needs sleep

proud jay
#

as I said, was already disappointed last year, but they told me I would be senior this year

timber viper
#

i've woken up by a political party leader today - like one hour ago or something

ancient ingot
#

😮

proud jay
#

so just waiting it out to see if better, and if not I have the senior title to negotiate

ancient ingot
#

you can be my senior Dieter

timber viper
cursive crypt
#

Go then.

remote fog
proud jay
#

which season are you listening too

remote fog
#

Winter 😄

proud jay
#

that's the best one

remote fog
remote fog
timber viper
#

Everyone likes winter but I like to listen spring

proud jay
#

I like them all

remote fog
remote fog
#

Anyway enough rant from me, gotta go back to working

ancient ingot
#

🐔

proud jay
#

man logs a crash bug with no callstack no dump or anything at 8am, expects it to be fixed before 4 pm

#

send help

ornate kraken
#

time to leave that job I guess

celest musk
steady fox
celest musk
#

somehow satisfying when you wrote an editor tool, which is able to 100% utilize your hardware and doing the job it's supposed to do 🙂

warm bloom
#

I have insatiable hunger today

proud jay
#

the director of software called me and told me nah u good

warm bloom
#

I swear I've eaten so much and I still feel hungry

#

wtf

celest musk
#

Error: appError called: Assertion failed: IsInGameThread() || IsInGarbageCollectorThread() well, 90% of the time it works tho 😛

proud jay
warm bloom
#

NO

#

I want to fill full

#

feel*

proud jay
#

ask au

#

he will gladly fill you up

warm bloom
#

yuck

celest musk
#

that's somewhat more traumatizing than AU by itself

marble sparrow
#

AU: hugs ? 🫂

warm bloom
#

I ate a whole box of taquitos

#

no regrets

proud jay
#

@deep copper where are you when your services are needed

#

how big was the box though

warm bloom
#

24 beef taquitos

#

and I'm still hungry

honest siren
#

🫂

proud jay
#

you need to see a doctor

warm bloom
#

no I'm usually not this hungry

#

I think I may have accidentally taken my meds twice

#

and it's throwing me off

proud jay
#

are you pregnant?

warm bloom
proud jay
#

hmm

#

if AU is the father, please abort

#

for the sake of humankind

warm bloom
#

you don't want like the equivalent of ned flander children

proud jay
#

lol that's funny

white oxide
#

i remember when my partner was pregnant

#

ouch

#

she usually had hunger cravings normally, they just got violent after she got pregnant

#

there was a LOT of chicken in the house

cursive crypt
#

Went 5 kilos up this winter, gotta sub to that movie.

fluid bloom
#

too much ham

north dragon
north dragon
celest musk
#

ok, i'm not using perforce at all

north dragon
celest musk
#

that segfault was with 2022.3.1 (which is latest afaik)

thin aspen
white oxide
#

no like i had to go out and get the old hunting freezer my parents never use to store enough

ancient ingot
#

i like chickens

white oxide
#

they moved into their house and the thing was there

#

a 12 cubic foot freezer

#

i filled that half with chicken, half with everything else needed

celest musk
#

so your child is made of chicken proteins?

white oxide
#

well yes

#

orange teriyaki chicken

#

which i learned how to cook in my sleep

#

almost literally

celest musk
#

i was thinking about getting teriyaki sauce today... hmmm

white oxide
#

hehe

thin aspen
#

I know what I’m eating for dinner

#

Chicken

steady fox
#

I nodded off and drooled on my shirt

white oxide
#

i mean i dont eat meat myself, but doesnt stop me from being incredibly qualified to prepare and cook it

#

sounds like my toddler

steady fox
#

feed mee

white oxide
#

your not my kid

#

i have no obligation to feed you anything

#

go find someone else to baby you

deep copper
#

ahem! may i offer a solution

white oxide
#

i punch them?

stray orbit
#

To make the best children you must feed them the best meat... so, feed them the neighbors.

#

It'll make them nice and plump for the oven later.

deep copper
#

the neighbours are not that healthy, i am sure the children would get 50 diseases even if you cook them well

celest musk
#

so as my neighbors like to slam their doors, the baby would kick its way out of the mom...

white oxide
#

^problem solving^

deep copper
#

it's not getting solved, i have been watching it for quite a while

white oxide
#

punching solves a lot of problems

deep copper
#

really? punch me

white oxide
#

ok

celest musk
white oxide
#

it still is

#

long as you dont get caught

celest musk
#

well, then you had been lucky

deep copper
#

can't wait to fix my shaders this way!

celest musk
#

what if you dont know yet that you've been caught?

deep copper
#

i would like to know who caught me

celest musk
#

well, they would be stupid to tell you

#

directly

deep copper
#

😮

white oxide
#

it was I DA SNITCH

deep copper
#

are you the one holding me !?

celest musk
#

he's the one holding you

#

back

deep copper
#

same thing!

celest musk
#

@quasi mantle isn't there any UE related community in your time zone?

quasi mantle
#

Unreal Engine devs in my area is pretty much minority

celest musk
#

probably because of the hardware costs to get reasonable started

#

that also applies here

white oxide
#

i mean my dev aspect is lore creation

empty blade
#

I mean, I think that's a joke, but I did give up on them after I was asked to share more about what I was working on and said I couldn't cos of NDAs and was met with "oh you are one of THOSE type", which I guess meant employed?

white oxide
#

most of my peers are stuffy english majors

quasi mantle
white oxide
#

yeah

quasi mantle
#

I guess that's on me for turning myself into minority, because I did use Unity for half a year before making the jump to Unreal

white oxide
#

unreal for mobile in general is hitting flies with hammers

empty blade
celest musk
#

but theres no guarantee for that to happen

empty blade
#

Ofcourse

celest musk
#

but if you do it in spare time anyways, it's probably worth the risk

#

better than competing against 100 unity devs because you picked the "easy" route

quasi mantle
#

For all intents and purposes, looking for jobs in local dev scene with Unreal is pretty much hopeless.
Hence I (still) doing daytime jobs completely unrelated to game dev

#

But yeah, at least I still have chance to do UE stuff on the side.