lounge

[bleak remnant]

Insomnia

[broken sigil]

yes, a great song indeed https://youtu.be/VvUeqRwWorM

[bleak remnant]

No, I'm talking about the passing cars that make me feel like I'm in some sort of sick horror game

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-camelot-dance-monty-python-dance-camelot-medieval-gif-17123270

[bleak remnant]

How can I go to sleep when I have horror game ambience

[broken sigil]

the ironic thing is I fell asleep so many times while listening to metal 😅

[broken sigil]

lol that gif reminds me of this song https://youtu.be/f55CqLc6IR0

[pearl elk]

pretty sure Alestorm played here recently

Froth & Fury Fest

[broken sigil]

they are actually really good

[pearl elk]

I was interested to see Mountain Wizard Death Cult lol

https://www.frothandfuryfest.com

look at that line up

[broken sigil]

Damn that's quite a lineup

[pearl elk]

Tattoos on site lol

[broken sigil]

Btw listen to Powerwolf if you are into metal, one of my favorite power metal bands

[broken sigil]

I still wanna get a tattoo, was planning on getting one before COVID but it kinda ruined that plan and now I'm too lazy

[deep copper]

mons changed pfp!!!!

[soft night]

mons new sweater https://twitter.com/SWCulture/status/1601290852927737857?s=20&t=b5mCXyKxHTtySQJWHRRK7A

Star Wars Culture (@SWCulture)

👕 #StarWars

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[celest musk]

because it looks cute on it

[quasi mantle]

meanwhile me changing pfp quite often

[soft night]

some say makoto change pfp often as clothes but its just a rumor

[quasi mantle]

Not that often tho

But still high frequency compared to others

[timber viper]

Today i passed English exam with no wrong answers... thanks discord

[cursive crypt]

UNice

[deep copper]

ngl i am often comparing your pfp from your previous ones, too bad you are away or the topic is different so I can't say anything about it. either way, nice pfps, something to look forward to lol

[pearl elk]

I thought I would get in the spirit of grinchmas

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-conk-conky-kitty-gif-18021368

[pearl elk]

hmm HMM, maybe I dont have to parse C++ at all

[fleet tangle]

Why would you want to?

[pearl elk]

I dont want to but someone decided writing an engine in it was a great idea 😛

[fleet tangle]

But why do you need to parse it? Surely the compiler does that for you!

[pearl elk]

theres a few things which happen before that happens

[deep copper]

i sense a pop reference

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/pop-groot-bobblehead-funko-gif-13660821

[deep copper]

like syntax highlight?

[pearl elk]

nah precompiling and transpiling but yeah that does parse the code too in a way

[fleet tangle]

Pressing the compile button?

[pearl elk]

I think I'll just try a fancy form of substitution rather than transpiling

that way I dont have to check actual syntax, I'll just put that on the user

I just need a set of characters thats no where in the UE source code

Abracadabra...

[fleet tangle]

"Documentation"

[pearl elk]

nope thats used, quite alot, 5041 times

Im just too lazy to write C++ lol

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-shaking-my-gif-19252481

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jung-ho-yeon-kim-joo-ryung-squid-game-squid-game-netflix-gif-23226199

gotta update all my js thinggys

[quasi mantle]

Apparently the clouds in MS Flight Simulator 2020 aren't volumetric

[pearl elk]

are they rendered using the cloud

[fluid bloom]

trying fortnite to see the new lighting and nanite updates

and wow this game is cancer

like, I'm not even in game yet just looking at the amount of stuff you can buy with bucks

also this UI is horrible 😄

[celest musk]

sssssh

they are the funding of our engine 😄

[fluid bloom]

there's like layers upon layers of menus and inner menus

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-driver-you-know-thats-a-kid-menu-right-debora-waitress-diner-gif-22033770

[unborn lotus]

I saw a kid once at the doctors office just get up and randomly do a fortine emote...then sit back down

let me tell you, back in my day....

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-batman-dancing-dance-droop-gif-16354769

[celest musk]

i should do that once in a while, too

probably good for muscles etc.

[quasi mantle]

At least Fortnite convince me to actually use Nanite and Lumen to its potential

If 60 FPS in current gen consoles is possible with it, surely my game would.

Thankfully I have the high poly sources for my assets

Fortnite: "Look, you can use Nanite for your stylized assets, doesn't have to be photorealistic"

[unborn lotus]

Nanite is the dream, just a ton of time saved skipping on baking and low poly. An unwrapped mid-poly mesh and done

[fallow cairn]

Hello.

[quasi mantle]

Personally I'd use Nanite meshes AND hand authored fallback meshes, giving best of both worlds

Won't trust Nanite to blindly generate fallback meshes anytime soon

I'm reading the docs for now, apparently it's the matter of toggling Nanite on or off (r. Nanite 0/r.Nanite 1)

I don't know about 5.0, but 5.1 version of the docs mentions the possibility of using authored LOD meshes as fallback.

[ancient ingot]

Laura !! 🌹

[pearl elk]

NigeyS

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/saturday-workers-helpdesk-avengers-saturday-weekend-workers-weekend-work-gif-20627256

[deep copper]

they are busy working sorry

[hollow dawn]

dutiful dutiful... cookies for everyone

[deep copper]

do you come with the cookies?

[hollow dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-sesame-street-cookies-gif-23021813

no, the cookies went inside me, u were slow

[fleet tangle]

I'm a Saturday worker because I sleep too much during the week 😂

[deep copper]

aww, well it's okay i am satisfied with just you 😋

[ancient ingot]

@hollow dawn your Artstation work is pretty amazing

[hollow dawn]

cookies are like hugs but less risk of geting STDs

oh thanks Nigey

[ancient ingot]

♥️

[fleet tangle]

I keep thinking of you as Nigel Planer.

[hollow dawn]

how do you pronounce Nigey anyway

[deep copper]

wait hugs give stds?

[celest musk]

yes

[hollow dawn]

the risk is roughly 78.45% higher than by sharing cookies

except they lick the cookies before offering them

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-lick-cookie-cute-gif-12608020

[ancient ingot]

Nigey is pronounced Nigh-Jee

just Nigel with a Y instead of a L

[deep copper]

then, let's share cookies 🥳

[fleet tangle]

Hence Nigel Planer.

[hollow dawn]

ay, how i thought, but never know with those british words...

who is nigel planner?

[ancient ingot]

😂

[fleet tangle]

He played the spaced out hippy in The Young Ones.

On the left.

[hollow dawn]

oh that dude

[pearl elk]

we sow the seed, nature grows the seed, then we eat the seed

[deep copper]

you sound like a wise old wizard saying that with that pfp

[celest musk]

wizard or drunk bum

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xjaLxHLE0I

[fleet tangle]

Definitely some kind of intoxicant.

[inland oriole]

@slate drift can you confirm? Are you drunk? 🤣

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/forgot-no-memories-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-gandalf-gif-13463504

[deep copper]

xD what was the plan even

[pearl elk]

I dunno but did you notice he's not even taking the seeds out the packets

[deep copper]

😮

what a weirdo

he didn't even sow the seed

[slate drift]

Alwayshavebeen.jpg

[pearl elk]

Neil's the smart one too 🤣

[inland oriole]

🥲

[deep copper]

well he tried i suppose

[hollow dawn]

when a savvy sow sows the sweet beet seed, you better heed the heat or you might feel the lead take on that beat

https://tenor.com/view/safe-neighbor-safe-in-the-kitchen-snapping-agree-agreement-gif-21052973

[deep copper]

,sounds like something chatGPT would say

[inland oriole]

Plot twist, we are all ChatGPT.

We just don't realise it 😦

[deep copper]

you mean, a natural language processing something made by openAi*

[deep copper]

how sweet

we should hug

[inland oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/running-staring-scared-stare-run-away-gif-13243107

[deep copper]

i didn't mean to scare you 😦

[deep copper]

I won't hurt you, believe me

i am not strong enough anyway

[mossy nexus]

No believing! No believing for you! No no no!

[deep copper]

why not 😭

[mossy nexus]

This is exactly what a sneaky strong person would say!

[deep copper]

if i was strong i won't have to ask for hugs

[mossy nexus]

Creepy³

[deep copper]

it can go back to normal with a hug, since there would be nothing creepy left to discuss

[pearl elk]

Dr Jekyll and Mr Hug

[deep copper]

a pop reference

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jekyll-and-hyde-monochrome-mad-gif-15248120

[deep copper]

Smokey

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/smokey-smoke-gif-11695270

[topaz depot]

AU is ChatGPT

[hollow dawn]

hey, the australian accent aint that mad

[timber viper]

makes sense tbh

character.ai has some weird creepy characters exactly act like au too

[hollow dawn]

sorry, i meant "oi"... not "hey"

[timber viper]

i thought "oi" was 🇬🇧

[hollow dawn]

well yeehaw is american

[timber viper]

I kinda like 🇬🇧 accent more tbh 😄

https://tenor.com/view/british-gif-26077384

[hollow dawn]

depends which

londonaaaahh is a fine accent

the snobbish one is very snobbish

condescending in voice and demeanor

[timber viper]

i dont know that much, but this summer at holiday I somehow ended up in a party ship in mediterranean which full of 🇬🇧 people

it was fun to talk with them at the beginning after seeing that much of American accent but then I liked it

[hollow dawn]

i try to avoid congregations of people who identify by nationality XD theyre usually piss drunk

[timber viper]

its nice to talk about cultures and languages though

[hollow dawn]

but yeah, i think if you hang out with the folks, their accents become a warm and pleasant sound... usually... german accents are a bit harsh lol

i really like the new zeeland kiwi accent, its so adorable lol

scots sound cool but i dont understand much XD

[timber viper]

half of the ship was Scottish

never understood the difference though

i couldnt tell if they didnt say at the beginning

[hollow dawn]

they werent drunk enough and tried to accommodate you maybe :D

[timber viper]

haha probably 😄

well, the beer they served was 1/2 water

[hollow dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73uATsa8y5Y

tis oi louvlay occant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c42dvgPIfSk

[thorny dock]

man I haven't played saints row since the first when it was a GTA clone, now every game is like your gang is in the whitehouse and you need to use your mindpowers to destroy the alien invaders, then the next game is that you find out your in a evil computer simulation lol

every game they stray further away from their roots but it does better and better apparently lol

kinda want to try it now

[timber viper]

it was a huge wtf moment for me when sr4 first released

[fluid bloom]

fortnite has some weird weapons

assault rifle that can only fire single shots?

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/loss-last-of-the-mohicans-gif-19728487

[deep copper]

and i bet you hug them instead of me, hmpf!

[deep copper]

then Horizon is OpenAi 🫂

[topaz depot]

I'm CloseAI

[deep copper]

close to me 😳 ?

[hushed charm]

guys, have anyone been contacted from Jenni mike as well? The bot who tries to make you invest in Bitcoin?

[unreal ether]

Can't beat a DMR

[deep copper]

report to mods

[unreal ether]

No lol? Show the message?

[hushed charm]

xD its quiet a l0ong chat now, Im having fun with trolling the scambot xD

[topaz depot]

Close enough 😄

[deep copper]

ask it to hug you

[hushed charm]

yes, good idea =D

[unreal ether]

Lmaooo

I love messing with them

[turbid spindle]

:question: will Au hug Mons?
:8ball: Outlook not so good.

[unreal ether]

Definitely willing to start with $5million USD

[hushed charm]

xDDDD

[hushed charm]

indeed

[deep copper]

oddly slow reply for a bot

guess they made it such

[hushed charm]

yeah but it makes it actually more believable

sometimes "she" is writng, than not sending the message. Then later sending something. its really convincing xD

[turbid spindle]

:question: will Mon and AU hug?
:8ball: Reply hazy, try again.

[chrome gull]

i have a possibly theoretical situation for you guys

assume I am developing a demo to woo publishers

[turbid spindle]

:question: you like theoretical situation?
:8ball: You may rely on it.

[chrome gull]

should I design the demo in such a way that the publisher and the player share the same (similar) experience?

or,

[chrome gull]

should I design a demo explaining the player experience to the publisher?

complete the game

i have nothing with me right now

[hollow dawn]

you want them to fund you a studio?

[hushed charm]

Incredible

[hollow dawn]

with customer you mean if they used crowd funding?

[hushed charm]

I got a timout of 5 minutes for showing the chatbot messages to you guys....

[chrome gull]

not a studio, a crew

[hollow dawn]

who gonna work on an airport floor?

[chrome gull]

remote

[hushed charm]

its violating the 4# rule of this server.

[hollow dawn]

so they will want to be sure that you can remotely manage that team, that your product will be profitable and that you will deliver

[chrome gull]

yeah I am working on that, but a lot of the publishers ask for a demo in the pitch deck, which is why my question

[chrome gull]

this one (view for more context)

[hollow dawn]

just having a good idea and skill wouldnt tell me wether you will be able to work on the product and also lead the group, so id have to consider hiring a director/manager for you too

[chrome gull]

I am considering hiring a project manager

the last time I led a team (years ago), things did not go well

sure now I am more experienced but I don't want to put the game at stake

[broken sigil]

Sharing private information which includes DMs as well as public witch-hunting is against the rules

[hushed charm]

I know but this one is clearly scam

[broken sigil]

Doesn't matter

[hushed charm]

I see but I just wanted to point out to the scam

[hollow dawn]

if id imagine myself as that publisher, granted id see potential in the idea, i might consider to buy the idea/rights and use my own studio, and possibly hire you as advisor / game lead or somin, prolly not really what you envision, but get an idea how you want this to work, they will come up with their own ideas but you need to know what you want out of it

[broken sigil]

Also this was timeout not a strike

[hushed charm]

I understand that its breaking the rule ... It was my bad, I am happy that I just got 5 minutes timeout .. Tho it really seams strange to me

[hushed charm]

yes

[deep copper]

well i mean, for once you assumed it was a bot, and a scam. that assumption could have been wrong

though in this case it's a scam yeah, in which case reporting to authorities take priority

[chrome gull]

hmm yeah that might also be a possibility

i just want it to launch (and obv work on it)

anything works

[hollow dawn]

if you know what you want, you can make a proper demo, for a publisher its about profitability, how much do we need to spend, how likely is a return of our investemnt, how fast, how much
for crowd funding youd rather present something the actual player wants to see, why they want to play it, enjoy it, experience it

[hushed charm]

You are right. maybe I am all along wrong and its just a really strange person. Since I confronted "her" with my timeout on this server I dont get any replies

[deep copper]

did you hug though

[hushed charm]

but yeah. I just wanted to show what I got there... Its up the server admins

[deep copper]

maybe it IS a person who isn't fluent in English

[hushed charm]

yeah 🙈

Oh no!?! I didtnt wanted to harm anyone

[deep copper]

maybe the delay is them searching for words to send

[chrome gull]

I am currently aiming for a publisher because it isn't really crowdfundable

[hushed charm]

I really excuse myself

[chrome gull]

and yeah I do want the game to be profitable

[broken sigil]

@hushed charm Can you give me their ID if they share this server with you, what they are doing is also against our rules

[hushed charm]

Ill send you a dm

[broken sigil]

K

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-man-before-after-eye-zoom-gif-16209225

[chrome gull]

I FINALLY FOUND GUIDES TO OPTIMIZATION!!!!!!

thanks #profiling and lawlster

[deep copper]

OMG let's celebrate with a big group hug 🥳

[slim atlas]

#graphics message

oh god no

the game is barely 1 day old

[unborn lotus]

Better reviews than the callisto protocol...and i think it's a solo guy 😅

[timber viper]

power of youtube marketing

[terse wasp]

I guess using that new tool that reverse engineers UE games or w/e?

[slim atlas]

yaa

[terse wasp]

Well - guess the tool works 😅

[deep copper]

are you a dog or a deer in the pfp?

[timber viper]

dog

[chrome gull]

yes yes ofc

[timber viper]

rookie mistake

[deep copper]

wise choice!

[chrome gull]

uhhhhhhhhhhh

which one is it

[deep copper]

whatever makes you feel better ?

[timber viper]

trust me

[deep copper]

🙃

[chrome gull]

wha-

[chrome gull]

whaaaaaa------

i don't trust either of you @deep copper and @timber viper

[chrome gull]

so maybe I don't need to release a modkit for my game

[deep copper]

I'd say trust your gut feeling

[chrome gull]

my gut is [bleep]

don't trust it

[timber viper]

dont hug strangers from discord, especially au

[deep copper]

wha

we aren't strangers

we have been talking for, days

[timber viper]

another rookie mistake

[chrome gull]

😭

[chrome gull]

I am simply trying to make cool new friends

[deep copper]

i also know their hourly rate is $20, you don't know every stranger's rate

[chrome gull]

stalker

[deep copper]

well, you also know that i hug people

so i am not stalking you, we are even!

[timber viper]

so you hired them?

[deep copper]

i am broke!

[chrome gull]

a LOT of people, which is suspicious

[timber viper]

hi broke 👋

[chrome gull]

no lol it's on my profile

[timber viper]

ah, level design

i miss cranz

[chrome gull]

yep

[deep copper]

so eren is more stranger to you than me, see

[chrome gull]

who

[timber viper]

another level designer that left the server earlier

[deep copper]

i just like it, i can't help it ><

[chrome gull]

ahhhhhhhh

[chrome gull]

hmmmmmm 🤔

[deep copper]

don't worry, you can ask eren all about them, eren has done all the research

you won't miss out

[chrome gull]

you both are stalkers then?

[timber viper]

i wonder what was cranz's rate

he was quite flexing a lot about it

[turbid spindle]

:question: level design is great profession?
:8ball: Outlook not so good.

[deep copper]

either way - , point being you should stay the way you are with relation to hugs, don't stop

[chrome gull]

i do love hugs

but i am still suspicious

[turbid spindle]

:question: what is this about?
:8ball: It is certain.

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-vecna-hello-chat-vecna-stranger-things-bild1337-gif-26024728

[timber viper]

[turbid spindle]

:question: is hugging good on dragon age absolution?
:8ball: Reply hazy, try again.

[chrome gull]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-hello-chat-gif-20962675

[deep copper]

lous, an orange name mod here also loves hugs. if an orange name is okay with it, it's probably safe

[timber viper]

did you play this yakuza?

[chrome gull]

hmmmmm valid I suppose

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/wiping-out-blood-dragon-age-absolution-rubbing-off-the-blood-rubbing-my-face-absolution-gif-25925262

[chrome gull]

nupe, only played a bit of i think the first yakuza remake

[timber viper]

play it if you wanna see a really bad example of LD

if i was teaching LD in somewhere i would make my students play it forcefully

[chrome gull]

now im intrigued

lmfao

[timber viper]

i think it was yakuza kiwami

no landmarks, no hints about where to go, terrible controls etc

i was stuck at the mansion level (1hr after gamepaly) and couldnt proceed further then uninstalled

[chrome gull]

that...

that...

my game...

[timber viper]

[chrome gull]

tho it does have landmarks

my game is supposed to be pretty open ended sooo

[deep copper]

ah, never noticed it but landmarks are certainly useful when playing 🤔

[chrome gull]

give example pls

[chrome gull]

i would say how but it's my idea :))

[chrome gull]

ohhh you mean those landmarks

[deep copper]

that's kinda advanced landmarking skill 😱

[timber viper]

https://sites.google.com/view/leveldesigner/english-version/gameplay-design/landmarks?authuser=0

[celest musk]

meanwhile id software... just placing green lights in the level as orientation 😄

[timber viper]

it just works™️ 😄

[chrome gull]

ARE YOU F***ING KIDDING MEEE???

[timber viper]

imo doom is a great example when game loop can be more important than the level design itself

[chrome gull]

this server is an absolute goldmine

[celest musk]

level design in doom isn't soooo bad

[timber viper]

https://book.leveldesignbook.com/

[celest musk]

they don't do fricking high poly environment, but usually you don't have much time to pay attention on that either

but overall, their level design is pretty good

[timber viper]

2016 Doom was very straightforward

[chrome gull]

ughhh I wish I found these when I was just beginning

but better late than never ig?

[celest musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WXYafbAeXE

[timber viper]

you can also research the messages of mine at #level-design with the user "CranzEstebogen", he was pretty much a level design god who shared tons of stuff at that channel

[chrome gull]

Eternal is... different

[timber viper]

eternal's puzzles suck

[celest musk]

they are fine

[chrome gull]

the platforming?

[timber viper]

i should hide to fact i suck at them

[celest musk]

i didn't get everything at first either, but after all they didn't bother me

[timber viper]

no the places/doors you need to unlock after combats

[chrome gull]

I will deffo do that

[chrome gull]

ohhh the shooting and running thing

with the green buttons

[timber viper]

yeah

[chrome gull]

it was mostly timing for me

DE is the ONLY game I ever 100% lol

that too I think in UV

[timber viper]

for me its Bully Scholarship Edition

memories

[celest musk]

i think last game i did "100%" was cyberpunk

[timber viper]

how

[celest musk]

well, all the gigs and cyber psycho things

so there was nothing left to do ;_;

really looking forward for the DLC

[chrome gull]

I am supposed to be going through my second playthrough of Cyberpunk

then I decided to take a break from RPGs

and singleplayer games

[deep copper]

are you both hardcore gamers or is cyberpunk just that small

[celest musk]

well, i started a 2nd one with female character, but it got repetitive

[primal summit]

Want to make a small level feel huge? Space-filling curves!

[chrome gull]

hah same

i started as a corpo female

[broken sigil]

I played it on launch, waiting for the dlc to come out to replay it again from the start

[chrome gull]

I don't usually replay games

DE, FO4 and CP2077 are the only ones that I did IIRC

[broken sigil]

Cyberpunk takes around 100h

for 100%

[celest musk]

well, the launch version got bad reputation, when i played it was already on 1.6 patch. so it was pretty bugfree

crashed like 1 time in the whole playthrough (and that could also been a wine/proton issue)

[broken sigil]

funnily enough I played it on launch and loved it, I encounter almost no bugs so I was very surprised by all the drama

[foggy path]

Same for me^

I had a few weird ones but nothing serious

[broken sigil]

yeah, nothing that I wouldn't expect in a game

[celest musk]

only "buggy" thing in this game is that items sometimes dropped in the ground for me, and have been hard to focus on to pick them up

and 1-2 times it totally glitched in the ground

[chrome gull]

I think I played it on 1.5

[broken sigil]

really curious to see how much it changed

[chrome gull]

ider having bugs and glitches

my friend says quite a bit

worth a replay?

[deep copper]

is that long or short ?

[broken sigil]

that's pretty long

[deep copper]

compared to standard avg length

[broken sigil]

I mean you can fly through the main mission but cyberpunk has really good side missions

[celest musk]

also the story/telling is just awesome in this game

[broken sigil]

and if you do all of them it easily takes about 100h

[foggy path]

I think the main storyline is a decent length but if you wanna do all the side stuff (which are good too) it takes way longer

[celest musk]

at first i thought i wont like the game, because the cyberpunk stuff isn't really my thing

[deep copper]

ah, so it's a game that has gameplay for every type of player i suppose

[celest musk]

but after all it's one of my favorite games 😄

[deep copper]

too bad it got a bad rep at start

[deep glen]

I enjoyed it, I'd like to see an even grittier cyberpunk world ala blade runner, but its a good game.

[chrome gull]

you don't play many games AU?

[celest musk]

AU plays games with people^

[chrome gull]

lmao

[broken sigil]

didn't CDPR say that they are working on the Cyberpunk sequel

[chrome gull]

they are

[celest musk]

yea

[deep glen]

also the cyberpunk anime was bonkers

[celest musk]

which uses UE5 btw

[chrome gull]

AFAIK they also said no pre-production until 2024

[chrome gull]

I usually don't want anime but it was awesome

[deep glen]

the remake of demonboy was one of the few recent things that gave me the same sense of dread

[chrome gull]

hah. me and one of the world's biggest open world RPG devs making a game using the same engine. no problemo. at all.

[broken sigil]

I started watching the cyberpunk anime (my first anime ever), I liked it but then started watching stranger things which I watched in like 2.5 weeks ( 😭 ) and now I can't get back into watching the cyberpunk anime

[deep glen]

go watch "Dark"
personally one of my fav series ever

(non anime)

[broken sigil]

Oh yeah I have it added to me to my watchlist, probably gonna be my next thing to watch after Wednesday

[celest musk]

so on thursday... 😛

[chrome gull]

I watched the first episode and then waited 2 weeks to watch the second episode

[broken sigil]

😆

[celest musk]

btw a nice movie^

[chrome gull]

cancelled

[celest musk]

no, thats an actual movie

[chrome gull]

I meant YOU are cancelled

[deep glen]

i find the lack of wednesday frog + adams family crossovers disturbing

[celest musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HODCvDJLyGA

[foggy path]

the cyberpunk anime was alright... but it had the same feeling as the game, as in it had a lot more promise than it actually ended up delivering

[deep copper]

nope 😛

[chrome gull]

game dev without gaming, eh? that's an unusual find

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-pathetique-pathetox-cat-gif-17249104

[chrome gull]

for people like me who only watched 2 anime, this is great

[deep copper]

not a game dev either lol

[chrome gull]

oh my bad

what do you do

[broken sigil]

gives out hugs

[chrome gull]

😭

[foggy path]

if you like cyberpunky stuff I would highly recommend checking out Ghost in the Shell, either the first movie or the series Stand Alone Complex

[deep glen]

from what I heard, nintendo likes to hire gameplay/coders that dont play games so they come up with original takes on problem solving.

[celest musk]

still making mario cart 227 😄

[chrome gull]

that makes sense to me tbh

then there's what I'm planning to do when I setup a studio

[broken sigil]

but how does someone say, oh yeah I wanna make games... without actually playing any 🤔

[deep glen]

coders looking for jobs and finding openings at studios?

[primal summit]

someone says, "I'm a developer in need of a job"

[chrome gull]

1. have you played any games in the last 5 years?
2. if so, how many hours did you spend on gaming?
3. what are 3 of your favorite games?

just so I hire people who actually play games

[broken sigil]

2) how many hours did you spend? Integer overflow 😅

[celest musk]

2.) yes

[deep glen]

"floating point errors"

[chrome gull]

especially level designers and writers

I'd immediately hire all of you

[deep glen]

not if I hire em first XD

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-Mc82AYNsjgxHMpPMWE

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-gif-24354099

[chrome gull]

I'll buy your studio 😈

I'm worse

[deep glen]

1b$ please

[chrome gull]

ok

(business deal made)

[deep glen]

my lawyer tells me this will hold up in court!

XD

[chrome gull]

lmao

but neither of us have a studio sadly 😔

[deep glen]

aaactually

XD

[chrome gull]

you have one?

[deep glen]

luosarts (vfx) and woodenswordstudios.

though latter is dormant for next few years

till I get your 1b

going to work on making proper money first next few years, meantime paying some coders to prepare some stuff

[chrome gull]

you'll get my 1b when you hire the people I want :))

[chrome gull]

I see

[deep glen]

as long as I can assemble my own team as well XD

[chrome gull]

how old are you, if I can ask?

[deep glen]

39.5

[chrome gull]

we'll come to an agreement :))

[chrome gull]

noice

[deep glen]

inb4 getting blueboy to generate initial content for concept artists XD

stares

[foggy path]

I wonder whose smart idea was it to enable oculus and steamvr plugins by default in UE4...

I played another UE4 title the other day which just immediately launched both oculus and steamvr despite not being a VR game because I guess the devs just hadn't turned off those plugins

:P

[deep glen]

Im mainly wondering why they never decided to disable those plugins.

someone must know.

i should ask

[chrome gull]

i had to Google so much to understand this sentence but I still didn't 😭

[chrome gull]

is it like that in UE5 too?

[foggy path]

No idea, haven't used it enough to remember

[chrome gull]

I don't check the plug-ins that often

I have a few but other than that

plus i don't understand 90% of them

[foggy path]

I just turn off everything that I'm not using

[chrome gull]

what is X3DS Encoder? no idea

[chrome gull]

I'm scared it'll break something lol

[foggy path]

Well if that was gonna happen it'd give you an error message and then you know to turn the plugin back on

[deep glen]

blueman really digs the AI image generation

[chrome gull]

yeah fair enough but is it worth it to go through hundreds of plug-ins?

[chrome gull]

who or what is blueman

[deep copper]

the other mod

[deep glen]

@foggy path I asked in a channel with epic devs, just to find out the reasoning

[deep copper]

@ Blue Man#7902

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/chaco-generator-gif-21267281

[chrome gull]

ohhhh lmfaoo

my bad

[deep glen]

for curiosities sake

[chrome gull]

and what happened?

[deep copper]

they told him to hold their chicken

[timber viper]

Anyone knows why people go crazy about "dont use yaml" on web?
is it disliked for a specific reason

[deep copper]

(luos was holding one before in a pfp)

[chrome gull]

ah

[foggy path]

Frankly I'm getting the feeling that this is something that nobody is gonna know lol

[deep copper]

it's probably some checkbox they forgot

[foggy path]

Because I think it's been enabled for many many years by now and every time I ask one of our devs if they know something about some commit that's old they never remember lol

[primal summit]

july '83 then?

[chrome gull]

I gotta wake up and learn the entire concept of optimization that #profiling gave me

should be fun

[deep copper]

have fun

[deep glen]

june

[chrome gull]

all I wanted to do was make a small level for my dear publishers

[deep copper]

using a big engine like ue so, well

[primal summit]

one month off from me

[chrome gull]

I had to delve into blueprints, animation and a custom markup language

[chrome gull]

none of my previous levels had bad performance so this is very new to me

but I used AI for the first time

and other moving objects

[chrome gull]

damn you guys were 10 when the OG Doom came out, eh?

[primal summit]

believe so

[deep copper]

i meant more like, ue has too much stuff to go through before you can even make a simple thing usually

it's all a rabbit hole or can of worms or whatever

[chrome gull]

yeahhhh I've noticed that

but ig versatility?

also what do you do?

[deep copper]

yup, more features, more to master!

[deep copper]

i hug

you?

[chrome gull]

that and?

[chrome gull]

I just want to focus on Game/Level Design and Writing tho 😔

[chrome gull]

right now I'm nothing

in a weird position in life

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/martinez-ctrlc-ctrlv-save-the-pesh-martinez-docker-gif-21467980

[primal summit]

That is an interesting question though... Does @deep copper post in or read other channels than #lounge, and what else do they do, since they seem to be here almost 24/7

[deep copper]

eat, sleep, hug, repeat !
jk but yeah i occasionally make archviz related stuff i suppose, but not in ue

[deep copper]

nope, I don't visit other channels unless pinged, or someone links it

what about you? since I don't visit other channels idk where you all go

[deep copper]

sounds chaotic, but you seem to have a plan atleast

[primal summit]

I occasionally lurk elsewhere, joined when I had more free time and a game in progress and since then got busy

it's purely hobby

[deep copper]

that sounds so much like you, having ue as a side hobby

[primal summit]

I'm a hardware guy

[deep copper]

yes, my notes say so !

[chrome gull]

bahahahahah 😭

[chrome gull]

ahhh nice

[chrome gull]

I go to #ue5-general mostly

but depends on the questions I'm having

[chrome gull]

a plan that is highly unlikely to succeed lol

[median flax]

That was called "subliminal cuts" and used in "The Exorcist" when it first came out. People vomiting in theatres because they didnt understand what they were seeing.

[primal summit]

As was foretold in the prophecy.

[chrome gull]

damn thanks for the cool info but where did you even find that message lmao

People didn't understand so they were vomiting????

[chrome gull]

🥲🤞

[deep glen]

first time I witnessed people vomiting was with the movie "Red Dragon" sequel or whatever to silence of the lambs. and to this day I have no idea why

[median flax]

Yes Google it. The image was in their subconscious. I think it was outlawed soon after because regular program used it to get people hungry for snacks.

[deep copper]

nice, so you actually visit the relevant channels

(unlike many)

[median flax]

I walked out of the first showing because I couldn't take the scene with her being medically
to her heart with the Scanner rotating around.

[chrome gull]

I have never witnessed people vomiting because of a movie damn

[chrome gull]

woahhh I'll deffo do that

[chrome gull]

I try to

[median flax]

meh even subliminally that wouldn't make me puke.

HAHA! Yeah history rules!

[chrome gull]

it pisses me off when I see people posting on the wrong place lol

[median flax]

That's why we don't sneak things in in between visible frames--but maybe for game development it's OK.

[chrome gull]

even more when I do it myself

[chrome gull]

I'm definitely not going to try it lol

[median flax]

no this was germaine to the discussion above.

[chrome gull]

idek how to

[chrome gull]

huh?

wow what the fuck kind of movies did you watch 😭

wdym?

[deep glen]

think so, its been yeeaaaars

[median flax]

Your link about fake dlss #lounge message

im a bit behind today 🙂

[primal summit]

the cell was worse, but that had shock value

[median flax]

"Ya had to be there"

[primal summit]

sorry

[mossy nexus]

If only subliminal messaging was actually a thing.

[median flax]

HA! Well I haven't seen that discussed in a long while. Maybe against FCC regs?

[chrome gull]

ahhhhhhh okay

[chrome gull]

happens to the best of us

[median flax]

So weird though, as soon as advertisers caught on to it--bingo it was outlawed in many countries

[chrome gull]

what's that even supposed to mean damn

[chrome gull]

opened a wiki article on the app

[median flax]

but in a cinematic setting, probably just fine--art vs. commercialism

[chrome gull]

will read it when I have the time

because once I start I won't stop

[median flax]

now its called "subliminal advertising"

[chrome gull]

yeah noticed that

that's literally psychological manipulation tho

[median flax]

ahh see this - https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/87245/terrifying-subliminal-image-hidden-exorcist

N wonder I left the theatre during the medical exam--it was used in that scene.

[primal summit]

It's a single word that means exactly what it says. I do not understand the confusion.

[median flax]

any way -- off topic (sort of)

[chrome gull]

not what you said; what you replied to

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/booty-rub-smiling-massage-gif-14703370

[chrome gull]

hi hi yes my bad eheheheh

[primal summit]

When #lounge gets particularly extreme (often from AU's borderline harassment hug addiction), laura stops interacting in lounge. I presume this time it's due to my red dragon scene spoiler.

[deep glen]

well, it was a bit out there, at least it was spoiler-ed

[chrome gull]

ahhhhhhh gotcha

[primal summit]

I can delete it, and so can you if it's too much

[chrome gull]

ehhhhh I don't mind

[primal summit]

that was to luos, one of the mods

[chrome gull]

oh oops

that was embarrassing

[deep glen]

yea, my fault perhaps

[primal summit]

I did spoiler it but was worried it might be too much

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/darthrevan-revamp-s-sth-lightsaber-gif-10042565

[thorny dock]

hey look it's the AI generated knockoff starwars marketing picture that they use in the $1000, $800, $500, lightsaber hilts from "different" companies

3 different companies, very similar knockoff art, one is literally cal from the first respawn last jedi game just re-photoshopped. lightsaber piece not included for all of them

[fathom wadi]

is it wearing revan's mask?

hm looks similar but not sure.

[fathom wadi]

can anyone tell me what word got this comment declined?

[quasi mantle]

"using Unity" maybe

[fathom wadi]

thats not a declinable offense tho

I used that in a previous post

knew it.

[quasi mantle]

Also if only people knew how shitty the HTML5 export was...

[fathom wadi]

well they will find out if they use it

its worse now

this is the full thread. So I'm completely baffled now. and Jan and Yoeri aren't here to ask. :/

[quasi mantle]

On paper it sounds good, but in practice it fall apart. Maybe the ones maintaining the community version realized it and stopped after 4.24

[fathom wadi]

its a neverending cycle of updating browser support so maintaining it and keeping it running on as many browsers as possible is a full time job

[quasi mantle]

Wonder what "see feedback" does

[fathom wadi]

it just says "You know you dun fcked up right?"

[quasi mantle]

And not to mention the HTML5 export wasn't working on many browsers even back then. I tried sneaking into webdev gig because the company used Laravel (and started my bad blood against web dev)

[fathom wadi]

heh

my bad blood started with Bootstrap

I went from a web designer to a person who filled in a form

[quasi mantle]

Bootstrap isn't bad IMO, Laravel is where it's get outright offensive to me (and I'm sure some people in my area would still use it)

[fathom wadi]

I cant say it's bad, but I saw the decline of the freelance web dev go from £45k/y to £15k/y and it was just before and during the time that css 3.0 appeared and Bootstrap/mobile designed websites became all the rage. I was bored of it by then anyway after more than a decade.

LOL next attempt to comment on the UE fb page and it warned me to be respectful. Seriously....

I literally only post there to help people and be respectful.

[quasi mantle]

Oh yeah, speaking of which, Laravel was somehow the rage back then. It was 2016/2017. I don't know how webdev have moved on from it since, but I hope it's no longer the case

I wish Laravel sites are in huge tech debt by now

[fathom wadi]

I'd have dropped facebook a long time ago but its the only way I communicate with some of my family these days. Otherwise it's just a giant feed of Unreal Engine + Blender posts for me.

[quasi mantle]

I've stopped using Facebook altogether, not because of privacy, but because I'm getting worn out by it and how crappy the experience has become.

Twitter is much more enjoyable and malleable even after Elon Musk running circus show

[fathom wadi]

I haven't had my account unbanned yet on twitter. Not making a new one.

heh I called it 3 months before it even released 😄

[quasi mantle]

Everyone's kinda seen it coming tbh

And to think some western AAA devs were getting salty over it

[fathom wadi]

I dont much like souls games but everything I disliked about them was fixed up in this game. And the open world was wonderful.

[zinc wagon]

i honestly thought GOW would win since it's more accessible to casual players but im glad i was wrong 😄

[quasi mantle]

I didn't thought dad GOW is that accessible to casual players, though it does felt a little too easy compared to hack and slash greece GOW

[zinc wagon]

the game literally solves the puzzles for you! can't get more accessabile than this

ig that was its downfall thinking about it

[quasi mantle]

ngl kinda miss when games being harder was more common

[zinc wagon]

you're not the only one. elden ring winning GOTY proves that

[quasi mantle]

Least there's still hope for harder and challenging games to be common again

Beating the hard challenges with skill is where the sense of pride and accomplishment really is.

[fathom wadi]

I haven't played god of war because I played the real god of war games previously. This is more like God of Dead Space Valhalla

[zinc wagon]

that's the difference between film and games for me. if there's no challenging...challenges than i might as well watch the cinematics of the games (that's what i did with death stranding)

DS is a great movie. meh game

[quasi mantle]

Not surprising, Kojima is a heavy movie goer

He's already dabbling with making visual novels after MSX Metal Gear.

[zinc wagon]

yeah. i was kinda surprised the creator of mgs series and silent hill demo has given us DS?

but i really shouldnt

after he got the world record for the longest cinematic that should've been the sign. but i ignored it 🙃

[quasi mantle]

Wait, what game of his hold that record?

MGS4?

[zinc wagon]

mgs 4

something like 2 hours?

a whole ass movie in a ps3 game

[quasi mantle]

Credit where credit is due, they cram a lot more than movies in a single BD

[quasi mantle]

I think it was around one and a half hours

[zinc wagon]

lol close enough

[zinc wagon]

BD?

[quasi mantle]

Blu-ray disc

[zinc wagon]

oh yeah those are a thing

crazy how these were made absolute obsolete by the world wide web ™️

[quasi mantle]

*obsolete

But internet is just one factor that caused the decline for games to use it.

Games are getting bigger, and consoles are peaked at 2 BDs at most, no 3 BDs for non-collector edition games are known

Also COD MW2 used the physical version as a ticket, not putting the whole game in it

[zinc wagon]

really? interesting.

i personally hate this trend where games are averaging around ~100gb. for people that have slow internet (like me) they'll need to wait around a week at best to play their favourite game

some games worth it. some dont

for me, COD MW2 doesnt not worth the 130Gb size

[slate drift]

I tackled that issue (fiber internet that is 🎉 ), though I still have to tackle buying a new disk

I'm wondering what size would be optimal? 🤔 (HDD that is going to be ofc)

4TB or should I go for 14TB?

[timber viper]

14TB?

Even Epic's computers around 4tb

[slate drift]

Haha yeah I was mind blown to see that is a thing™️

[zinc wagon]

where he's gonna store all of his generated pngs?

[timber viper]

[slate drift]

On Laura's cloud space?

[zinc wagon]

come on keep it family friendly

[zinc wagon]

aws server should do

[slate drift]

Yeah I think I will just roll with the 4TB (but that is just for gaming, so a shit ton of games will be there)

[zinc wagon]

remember when sub 100gb was "too much"

[slate drift]

They probably forgot to turn off "Use Starter Content"

[zinc wagon]

holy shit i actually did forget lol. let me deleted it rq

ok done. now my game should be go from 35gb to 30gb 🙂 (quixel was a mistake)

[quasi mantle]

At least now with UE5 getting more use, devs use Oodle and Bink as a result and cut the size down

[quasi mantle]

If you don't have much slot for your NAS, then 14 TB

[quasi mantle]

Also GTA V is now around 90 GB

[zinc wagon]

*110gb 🥲

[slate drift]

I have 1 + 6, with about 3 occupied, so yeah the 14 is still a legit choice 🥺

[quasi mantle]

It's a shame that anything above 8 TB is still hard to look out for

[quasi mantle]

Blame GTA Online for that

[slate drift]

Honestly I was mind-blown that 14 even exists, but guess it's needed, that's why it does 😄

[quasi mantle]

For server runners, most likely

[zinc wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud-yelling-cloud-angry-gif-12558964

[slate drift]

For gamers that don't uninstall games, much more likely 🥲

[quasi mantle]

And to think R* still use P2P connection after all the stuff that happens

[zinc wagon]

hey, it gives me a smooth playing experience so i wont complain

[quasi mantle]

They likely just chain together bunch of consumer NAS and call it a day

[fluid bloom]

oh noes I got covid

first time ever

[broken sigil]

Good luck, hopefully it won't be too bad

[fluid bloom]

I'm mostly fine, kid is like a duracell bunny and my wife seems dead

[deep copper]

oh no 😦 get well soon 💐

[thick belfry]

Hey guys whatsup

[deep glen]

get well soon @fluid bloom

[tulip orbit]

have you checked for a pulse? does she smell?

[fluid bloom]

😄

she does walk about

[tulip orbit]

zombie!

[pearl elk]

Ive seen this movie, you should lock her in the basement

[inland oriole]

🤔

[soft night]

https://twitter.com/fifamedia/status/1601636703969902594 and not end like dead with overworking when sick

FIFA Media (@fifamedia)

Tonight we pay tribute to Grant Wahl at his assigned seat in Al Bayt Stadium. He should have been here. Our thoughts remain with his wife Céline, his family, and his friends at this most difficult time ❤️

Likes

6344

Retweets

854

Twitter · Dec 10, 2022, 5:55 PM

[pearl elk]

imagine being scared of rainbows

[deep copper]

well they are big and intimidating

not to mention, vibrant

if anything in nature is colorful, 9 times out of 10 it's deadly

[pearl elk]

umm but sharks are grey, snakes are brown and spiders are black

colourful animals are usually posers 😛

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-dancing-cage-viral-hog-viral-hog-gif-gif-14370953

https://tenor.com/view/tucan-funny-cute-stepping-walking-gif-17493053

alpha predators

[pearl elk]

https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/dd0ff04ab2f1f6cbd5936ec9121b5371?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&cropH=1020&cropW=1825&xPos=317&yPos=565&width=862&height=485

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-black-widow-viuda-negra-araña-scary-gif-14738961

[pearl elk]

wooo redback, been awhile since I seen a good one of those

mostly white tails around here

[deep copper]

9 out of 10!

[soft night]

and au is only hugger

[pearl elk]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/51/5b/3b515b221e832c6eed39ad3c834823fe.jpg

[deep copper]

not all snakes are brown! and sharks live in water that is blue so grey is colorful for them, and spiders are too small for colors to make a difference!

(citation needed)

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/submarine-animated-yellow-submarine-gif-17671576

[deep copper]

exactly, parrots are ultra creepy with their voice mimicry

they even eat deadly things like chillis as a daily diet

[pearl elk]

Baboons and their deadly butts

[deep copper]

you pfp makes everything you say like an old wizard to me

it feels, odd

[pearl elk]

I am old

[fleet tangle]

He's Scrooge!

[deep copper]

scrooge?

[deep copper]

not wizard old tbh

[pearl elk]

another pop reference

[fleet tangle]

You know, 3 ghosts, tiny tim, etc.

[deep copper]

ah yeah, 3 ghosts, yes yes, tiny tim, got it

(i didn't)

[pearl elk]

Surely you know Charles Dickens

[fleet tangle]

Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol?

[deep copper]

i know there was some book author by that name

[turbid spindle]

:question: is AU hugger?
:8ball: Outlook not so good.

[pearl elk]

it only gets remade every christmas lol

[deep copper]

i will just google real quick, hold on

i am guessing the center guy is scrooge

[fleet tangle]

Correct.

[pearl elk]

you should probably start with Dickens, then Verne, then Shelly and finish up with Stoker

[fleet tangle]

If you've ever seen Ducktails, Scrooge McDuck is based on him.

Money loving, etc.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-donald-duck-swimming-in-money-gold-coins-gif-16654576

[pearl elk]

Darkwing Duck ftw

[fleet tangle]

Ducktails, wooo oooooooooo

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-wing-duck-letsgetdangerous-daffyduck-gif-8875670

[fleet tangle]

Imagine that said with a heavy lisp.

[deep copper]

ah i see, i just read that scrooge means a person that loves money and hates spending

[fleet tangle]

Now you know where it's from...

It's from A Christmas Carol, a tale about a miser who's visited by the ghosts of Christmas past, present and future, shown his life, the suffering around him and how he'll die alone and unloved.

[deep copper]

it sounds like a decent story

no wonder they keep remaking it

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/ducktales-ducktales2017-donald-duck-scrooge-mcduck-gif-21505119

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/tintin-comicbooks-comicbookgifs-gif-4527328

[fleet tangle]

It's definitely a good story. Tragedy and redemption with a Christmas theme.

||(He turns good in the end)||

[pearl elk]

Its like Die Hard just with less machine guns

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-santa-angry-look-gif-15932466

[fleet tangle]

Damn that Hans Gruber!

[soft night]

rare exports for you

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/die-hard-hans-bubbe-hans-bubby-weezer-dubby-hall-gif-18076825

[deep glen]

underrated gem imho

its how a good uncharted movie should feel like

[fleet tangle]

That Tintin model, though. So punchable.

[deep glen]

tintin has always been a punchable face

[pearl elk]

yeah must admit the Uncharted movie didnt really have that sense of adventure to it

[deep glen]

ikr

[deep copper]

well it's a family movie i would expect no less

[fleet tangle]

This is why I hate family movies.

Happy endings need to die.

[deep copper]

are you the type of person who likes movies where main char dies in the end?

[fleet tangle]

The only unrealistic happy endings should be in porn.

I don't want the hero to die, I just don't want everything to work out fine because of the power of friendship.

It is uninteresting.

[deep copper]

ah, so you hate unrealistic forced good endings

[fleet tangle]

Yeah!

[deep copper]

i am with you on that one, it feels as if a lot of it depends on luck which is never that good

[fleet tangle]

I also don't like films that do stupid things to pander to children.

[pearl elk]

oh man dont get me started on Wolverine lol

[thin aspen]

So the uncharted movie was not as good as people say?

[fleet tangle]

A family film can be fun and entertaining without making every character a clown.

[fleet tangle]

Do tell!

[pearl elk]

blade hands and theres not a single drop of blood in like how many films lol

[fleet tangle]

Lol. You mean on his own hands when the claws come out?

[deep copper]

yeah, also i am sure scrooge only becomes good in the end so children don't end up like scrooge, in reality scrooge's personality could be useful

[pearl elk]

well he dices so many people and theres not a drop of blood so I consider him to be a master swords man

[fleet tangle]

In reality scrooge would be surrounded by yes men and fake friends. Whether he realises that or not, or even likes it or not, is down to him.

[pearl elk]

Scrooged kinda explains that more because they modernised the story

[deep copper]

yup, but atleast he won't be spending on unnecessary stuff

[fleet tangle]

Heh

[deep copper]

i haven't seen the movie but yeah, there's a reason it aims to make children not be like that

[zenith token]

Hey i have a issue with unity embedded into flutter, i can pay you $300 to help me solve this today. Its actually already working i just have some errors. Please can you help me?

So far we got the integration but now we need to fix the configuration for unity AR so that it doesnt crash when opening in unity. Not allowing me to post in jobs

[thin aspen]

Good thing you came to the Unity discord server

[fleet tangle]

It's absolutely true that you'll probably be happier if you spread love instead of hate, but you'll also probably be poor. So just spend the first 40 years being a dick and live off your ill gotten gains.

[deep copper]

kinda agree

no one got time to be good and spend it all like some social worker

[fleet tangle]

Some people do. And some are happy with how it works.

[deep copper]

but once you are old you should definitely look into it

[fleet tangle]

They're the special ones.

99% of people are just dicks.

[pearl elk]

Im one of the few who admit it 😛

[deep copper]

i am certain many do it just to appear good or brag about it

[thin aspen]

If you have to tell people you did something good it wasn’t for the sake of doing something good

[fleet tangle]

This is why I believe altruism doesn't exist.

Anyone who talks about giving to charity isn't donating because they're a good person.

[deep copper]

yeah

i never understood their incentive

you can't see what happened with your action

you can't see anything good happen, then where's the incentive?

[fleet tangle]

Companies don't give to charity because they're ethical. They do it to increase revenue by attracting people who like those charities.

[thin aspen]

And tax credits

Mostly tax credits

[fleet tangle]

It's kinda sad, I was looking at donating to charity to save on tax, but I couldn't write off the entire amount so I didn't bother.

[deep copper]

but do they give it to charity in the end though?

[fleet tangle]

(I'm not a good person)

[pearl elk]

Did someone say tax credits

[celest musk]

(you said i should be a dick until 40)

[fleet tangle]

Of course companies do.

[thin aspen]

They sometimes even give it to charities that they own

[deep copper]

(noted)

[fleet tangle]

But those charities are probably paying over the odds for managers and bureaucracy as well, so a lot of it just goes into people's pockets.

[deep copper]

yikes

[pearl elk]

such generosity, so brave

[fleet tangle]

Oh that's a good one, yes! 😄

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/its-for-charity-charity-free-giving-youre-welcome-gif-15666745

[deep copper]

i kinda don't trust any charity stuff, if I can't see it myself, it's probably not going there, I don't trust it

[fleet tangle]

Like I do give a small amount to charity, but only because there are lotteries and I think I might win something.

[celest musk]

i considered it several times

but end of day, you don't really know what they will do with the money

[fleet tangle]

I think there was some religion that mandates you give 30% of your income to charity or something.

I forget which.

[deep copper]

that's a good way to feel about gambling, whoever came up with this is good lol

[thin aspen]

I believe that if you can afford to give in charity then you should, however what that threshold is, is probably different than you think

[fleet tangle]

It is. It's a fantastic idea. For both you and the charities.

[soft night]

https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2022/12/07/a-new-charity-tool-making-charity-streams-easier-and-more-charitable/

speaking of it I heard they added more charity options

[deep copper]

reminds me, discord is also giving away it's money from merch sales to charity, or so it claims

[pearl elk]

I made a charity for my adderall addiction

[fleet tangle]

I would give a lot more to charity, but saving for house deposits, paying off car loan, etc.

[deep copper]

it also said it collects funds during this time for charity

[fleet tangle]

There's always an excuse.

[thin aspen]

I should also mention when I say give to charity I don’t mean a charitable organization

I mean you should go find poor people and just give them the money

[fleet tangle]

That doesn't mean it'll be used any better than a charity.

[deep copper]

yup

i know many poor street people that buy alcohol at night after the day

[thin aspen]

But it’s also not my issue how people choose to spend the charity they’re given

[fleet tangle]

Likely if you give money to a homeless person, instead of food or shelter, it'll go on alcohol or drugs. Or so TV has taught me.

[pearl elk]

but what if they are only pretending to be poor

[thin aspen]

I’m not in it to be able to say “because of me this person finally got on their feet”

[fleet tangle]

Some pretend beggers earn bank.

[deep copper]

i have seen it happen, it's correct

[thin aspen]

Then you have terrible shrewdness

Real poor people don’t beg

[fleet tangle]

Doesn't mean it's the general rule, though, AU.

[pearl elk]

I saw one hop in a cardboard house which was hiding a Tesla

[fleet tangle]

Lol

[thin aspen]

That’s another thing homeless doesn’t equal poor

[deep copper]

it ends up happening for beggers because they live in groups

[fleet tangle]

Again, just because some are faking being poor, don't assume they all are.

I feel we're being dismissive of the people who actually need the charity.

[deep copper]

if you DO give something to someone poor though, there is again a high chance some other poor person would take it away from them, because hierarchy and domestic issues or whatever

the people in need do exist, yeah, but getting it to them isn't easy

[fleet tangle]

Makes it sound like an African warlord taking the aid from the red Cross.

[deep copper]

... pop reference?

it sounds history reference though

[thin aspen]

Black hawk down

[fleet tangle]

No, they actually do it.

[pearl elk]

I just give people vegemite sandwiches

[fleet tangle]

They'd be stupid if they didn't. Gotta keep the people down so they can live like Kings.

[pearl elk]

then they ask if I come from a land down under

[deep copper]

another thing to note btw, if one of them suddenly becomes rich, they often don't know what to do with it

[thin aspen]

The first place to look to give charity is mostly gonna be within your own family

[deep copper]

ah, i kinda get what you mean now

[fleet tangle]

I'm trying so hard to remember the other lyrics lol.

[fleet tangle]

Yeah. The charity people deliver supplies to a country in need only for the local warlord to take it all.

[deep copper]

that's not entirely wrong but it gets weird, worst case you become a money lending machine to someone you know

[pearl elk]

can you hear, can you hear that thunder

[deep copper]

sheesh

[pearl elk]

so what we're saying is that if someone is begging for hugs they dont really need hugs?

[thin aspen]

Not lending, just charity. You gotta be able to tell people no as well.

[deep copper]

yes, they need cuddles

[fleet tangle]

My brother asked for money. I said I'd give him some, but if he asked again I'd block him. He didn't like that.

[deep copper]

it makes people wary as well, so just be careful

[fleet tangle]

Don't wanna be treated like an atm. 😦

[deep copper]

but yeah

[pearl elk]

where can I get a noodle burger

[thin aspen]

For instance if I give you 5K this month and you need 5K next month I’m gonna flat out ask if you’re a crackhead

[fleet tangle]

Lol

[deep copper]

aw

[pearl elk]

5K jeez crack is expensive where you live

I could have a coke addiction for that

[deep copper]

maybe that person is just in that much debt

[thin aspen]

Because for someone with no money it doesn’t make sense that you would have 5K in bills every month

#salary-jobs

[deep copper]

i believe people are more likely to invest than donate

[pearl elk]

maybe they just signed up for too many pay in 4's

[thin aspen]

#lounge message

[deep copper]

what's here?

[pearl elk]

so scrooge in this modern version of a christmas carol is a drug dealer?

and he's unhappy because of all the homeless people who owe him tick

[deep copper]

that's realistic

for a family movie

[deep copper]

hey give this to chatGPT

[pearl elk]

yeah its abit like Romeo and Juliet the one Leonardo DiCaprio was in

[fleet tangle]

I must see that. DiCaprio is a fantastic actor.

Who was Juliet in that? Kate Winslet?

[deep copper]

i know about it! just that i haven't seen it

[pearl elk]

Claire Danes, Winslet was Titanic

[deep copper]

aye aye ! we are buds who haven't seen it 🫂

[fleet tangle]

Ah yes!

[pearl elk]

They didnt change the script much though, its still Shakesperian style so it can get abit annoying with how they talk

[deep copper]

oof

[fleet tangle]

That's why I didn't like Skakespeare much.

The dialect gets to me.

[thin aspen]

Something to help people get out of debt

[deep copper]

what's the quality of these jobs like btw

[thin aspen]

He turns that way because of the people owing him. Thus I never gave out credit

[thin aspen]

Who knows but if you borrowing money you don’t really got any room to be concerned what kind of work you gotta do to pay it back

[deep copper]

well it might work out if you have skills for it, otherwise you will only get exploited

or be useless

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19493953

[fleet tangle]

What was his star sign? Cancer.

[deep copper]

whose?

[soft night]

https://www.sosyncd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Part-2-Celebrity-database-templates-Fbk-Twitter-78.png

[topaz depot]

affectionateGPT is a special branch of ChatGPT. It uses a neural network to simulate having feelings and thoughts, just like humans. It is the very first Artificial Intelligence that passed the Turing test better than a human.

[turbid spindle]

:question: will AU hug horizon?
:8ball: Very doubtful.

[topaz depot]

Manny is one of many affectionateGPT AIs, and it's special twist is his charming sarcasm.

[thin aspen]

Well what do you call borrowing money that people know they can’t pay back?

[celest musk]

fraud

[thin aspen]

Bingo

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/sigmund-freud-eyebrow-raise-flirt-i-know-you-want-it-gif-20786077

[thin aspen]

It’s capitalism mayne, somebody has to win and somebody has to lose. Or maybe a better way of saying it, someone has to capitalize and somebody has to be capitalized on

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-wayne-gif-21659670

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-tree-money-rich-gif-15823655

[fleet tangle]

Steve Jobs, he died of cancer a few years ago. It was a poor joke.

[deep copper]

xD

[deep copper]

😭 yes

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-vibes-ipod-scrolling-music-gif-15430288

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/retro-vinyl-cassette-player-vintage-gif-15263120

[proud jay]

did Netmarble just like 100% take paragon and rerelease it? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1531430/Paragon_The_Overprime/

Steam

Paragon: The Overprime

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doesn't look like they changed much at first glance

[celest musk]

well, that was planned for a while, i remember reading something about that a few weeks ago

apparently they actually had another name in mind, but then changed it to paragon overprime