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soft night
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Xero things happens yeah

thin aspen
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Cero tings

trail wedge
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lol

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let's not act like my 0th world problems are real

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I'm just complaining that I'm too lazy to install free games

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that's not a real problem

fleet tangle
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How... how are you alive?

soft night
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so you missed Dragon Age Absolution

thin aspen
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the plugin

thin aspen
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Hey I released my game on steam and I told all my friends why haven’t I made 10 million dollars yet?

soft night
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there was some anime watchparty at twitch channel was netflix geeked

fleet tangle
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Didn't you hear the other day?1

thin aspen
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Nah because you guys (and laura) are toxic

quasi mantle
thin aspen
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So you mean to tell me that steam has this conspiracy where they don’t want me to make it

quasi mantle
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Even then Steam would take 30% out of it

soft night
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Laura have so many dragon age games like inquisition

thin aspen
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But no seriously I haven’t released a game

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I was just making sure you were all real people and not bots

quasi mantle
thin aspen
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🥁

thin aspen
soft night
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Dragon Age Wiki

Dragon Age: Absolution is a six-episode Netflix animated series set in Tevinter, created by show-runner Mairghread Scott and produced by Red Dog Culture House. It was announced on June 10, 2022 and will be released on December 9, 2022. Absolution takes place in the Tevinter Imperium. Following the story of a young elf rogue named Miriam, Absolut...

fleet tangle
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I may have to watch that.

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Need to get something out of my Netflix sub.

quasi mantle
thin aspen
quasi mantle
soft night
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this was another day

quasi mantle
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It's always the bots!

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Them bots conspiring to fight humans, peace was never an option!

late cometBOT
turbid spindleBOT
quasi mantle
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By putting await coroutines on every step of the conspiracy function

turbid spindleBOT
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:question: will there be more bots?
:8ball: Signs point to yes.

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:question: Are you and Quinn still in bad terms?
:8ball: Very doubtful.

quasi mantle
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Oh, they're lovey dovey again

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for now

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UNLOADING MODULE CHALLENGE (gone wrong)

trail wedge
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wait what?

fleet tangle
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He must be ill.

warm bloom
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they are cancelling Disney channel

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but only in Russia

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that's so sad

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they can no longer experience long nosed boy and rectangle head

soft night
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anime watched

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ep1 of that show what come on december 9

warm bloom
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huh?

soft night
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from the netflix vod the dragon age absolution

primal summit
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update your nickname every millisecond with an updated time anime-free

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or get a script to do it for you

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because it's possible

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it's the same reason we used to justify going to the moon, and it's a fine reason to land a man on the sun!

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I fail to see the issue

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can and should belong to different disciplines, should being squishier and thus holding less merit

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look, we had to do something...

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did you know russia hit the moon with a frag grenade with a tracer well before we even thought we could accurately hit it

regal pecan
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"we choose to go the moon not because it is easy, but because there's no anime there"

pearl elk
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Didnt we choose to do the other things too?

regal pecan
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We're definitely choosing to go the moon, whatever that means.

primal summit
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we choose to do a lot of things, following through on the consequences is seldom one

pearl elk
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We say we're gonna do alot of things, we seldom follow through 😛

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There will be anime on the moon, China will set up shop there first

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memewhile in the west... more corn!

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Im actually enjoying some of these Chinese scifi movies, its good to get a range of perspectives

primal summit
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did you ever see snowpiercer?

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rumor is it's a sequel to willy wonka and the chocolate factory

pearl elk
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I saw the movie not the show. There is a sequel to Willy Wonka, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator

primal summit
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yes, I know it's south korean, not chinese

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snowpiercer, the movie

pearl elk
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Pretty sure Roald Dahl wasnt Korean 😛

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lots of Korean stuff, it gets buzz. I loved Space Sweepers but the Chinese scifi is even better IMO

primal summit
pearl elk
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yeah you brought it up when I was talking about Chinese scifi, not sure what your point is

primal summit
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ahh

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thought you were disagreeing with my south korean origin statement

pearl elk
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Everything Everywhere All at Once for example

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The Wandering Earth, theres plenty of cool shit

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Much better than The Rock does a Heist or Disaster flick yet again

primal summit
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or Oh crap, it's the Marvel guys again

pearl elk
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invasion of the Chris' because one of them isnt Marvel 😛

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they should do a Chris-tmas special

trail wedge
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Did somebody say Chris Pratt as Mario

celest musk
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is math "genius" around us?

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i have two bones in different spaces, i know their world orientation in each of their world spaces (and could probably translate one to the other space)
also i know their forward vector
what i want is a translation matrix which i can use to transpose rotations from one system to the other

celest musk
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thanks, but i've played around with this and didn't really succeed

trail wedge
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the 2nd link has UE code

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1st link explains what's going on

celest musk
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also probably because i don't really know how to apply it

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yea i've probably read it like 5 times by now 😄

trail wedge
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btw it's called a Change of basis

celest musk
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also another big problem is, i really only know for sure the bones forward vector

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i'm trying around now, converting both to the corresponding world/component space, and then converting over to UE, and unrotating it... but... i'm bad at this stuff 😄

trail wedge
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you just need to know 3 vectors and their angles or 1 vector and a plane to define a 3D space

unborn lotus
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looks like someone didn't pay attention in school 👓

celest musk
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never had matrices in school

trail wedge
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this was 9th grade math for me, but most of my classmates were in 12th grade

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so I don't expect people to know this tbh

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most people won't take past Algebra 2/Trigonometry, if they even get that far

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I suppose it matters what order you teach the topics in though... there is some room to have different paths at this point in math

celest musk
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also i don't really understand how the change of basis method from the 2nd link should work if it just knows the direction vectors of one system

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wouldn't i need the vectors of both?

trail wedge
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so they know both spaces if they know one

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but that's just for their example

celest musk
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well they pretty much do what i want tho...

This example describes a change of basis we had to perform to convert 3D rotations from an OpenCV Augmented Reality tracking frame (right-handed, Z forward) to Unreal Engine (left-handed, X forward).

trail wedge
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well just copy it?

celest musk
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except that i have y-forward in UE

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it doesn't work for me

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trust me, i wasted hours on this. i'm just too stupid 😄

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so, since you understand a bit of it

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this method... i feel like it's for transposing out of unreal

trail wedge
celest musk
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and taking the direction vectors of the target space as parameter?

trail wedge
celest musk
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if i was about to transpose from X to Unreal, would i use unreals fwd/up/right vectors as parameter?

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or the ones from the source space?

trail wedge
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so the FRU vectors are for the world space you want to end up in

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and the transform is the thing you want to move to the new world space

celest musk
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ok, but this is confusing AF

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how would it know that Y/Z axis are swapped in the source space?

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from where does it get that?

trail wedge
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trail wedge
# celest musk from where does it get that?

the 3 vectors tell us everything we need to know about the destination space..... and the transform we're converting contains both the location and the coordinate space info

quasi mantle
celest musk
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maybe i'm lacking knowledge about FTransforms...

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are they initialized with the UE world matrix?

quasi mantle
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I had the so called gifted child situation

trail wedge
trail wedge
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it was hard to slack in that class we all got personal attention

celest musk
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FTransform T;
T.SetScale3D(FVector::OneVector);
T.SetLocation(FVector::ZeroVector);
T.SetRotation(BoneRotationInSourceSpace);
celest musk
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this is all you got in an FTransform

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there's no information about the space

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there's an arbitrary rotation in the space tho

celest musk
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ok, relative...

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now where does it carry the information that Y is up, not Z?

trail wedge
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I did miss mentioning the scale tho

celest musk
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guess that's what i'm having trouble with

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scale in both cases is 1, so it shouldn't matter

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location is world origin, shouldn't matter either

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i only care about the rotation, could probably somehow solve this with an FQuat, if i would understand it 😄

pearl elk
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did you try drawing a picture?

trail wedge
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that's a different method

celest musk
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well, i thought the matrix could also handle translations for me later (which isn't really necessary, since it's just swapping two axis)

pearl elk
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I always find geometry problems easier to solve when I draw a picture of the instant in time Im after, its hard to use realtime because its constantly in motion

celest musk
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let's not talk about translations

trail wedge
celest musk
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ah here we go again... eigenvalue, been there 😄

trail wedge
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there might be UE helper functions for this stuff

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I just don't know them

pearl elk
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can we see this BP picture please?

fleet tangle
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What are you trying to do?

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(Don't use math in this explanation)

pearl elk
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exactly my thought lol because a normal of a bone in world space isnt the same as its pivot

fleet tangle
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A bone is a position and a rotation and length, I guess?

celest musk
trail wedge
fleet tangle
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So what are you actually trying to do?

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Get bone rotation in local space?

celest musk
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that was like 6 months ago tho, and it doesn't work anymore since i've changed the underlying structs, etc 😄

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trying to convert DAZ (right handed, y up) to UE (left handed, z up, y forward (since rig space))

fleet tangle
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Just swap the numbers! 😄

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(I kid)

celest musk
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i don't know which axis maps to which (except for the forward axis)

fleet tangle
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But seriously, you could do just that. Convert the rotation to a vector, change the vector axes around and convert it back into a rotator/quat.

celest musk
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but i have both bones origins in their corresponding world space

fleet tangle
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I'm not seeing the issue. You're converting position to a different coordinate method?

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That's the easiest one!

trail wedge
celest musk
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yea @fleet tangle i was about to try this next (since i haven't tested with world space before and somehow got stuck in a loop trying it in bone space)

fleet tangle
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Draw both of the axes out.

trail wedge
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sorry did the wrong reply

fleet tangle
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Then you can easily see which is which.

fleet tangle
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Then use the vector conversion method.

celest musk
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so transpose the euler angles?

fleet tangle
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Convert them in the original DAZ space, swap the axes and convert back to rotation in UE space.

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Or, well, convert them to vectors in UE space to begin with and then swap the vector axes, that might work.

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Test!

celest musk
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yea doing this now, thanks

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however i wish i would understand the matrix stuff 😄

trail wedge
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FTransform BoneTransform;
BoneTransform.SetScale3D(FVector::OneVector);
BoneTransform.SetLocation(BoneVector);
BoneTransform.SetRotation(BoneRotation);

FVector DAZForward = {0,0,1};
FVector DAZRight = {1,0,0};
FVector DAZUp = {0,1,0};
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use that as your input

celest musk
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since that seems to be more convenient

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as input for what?

trail wedge
celest musk
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you said earlier that the method needs the direction vectors of the target space?!

trail wedge
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reread

fleet tangle
celest musk
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the 3 vectors tell us everything we need to know about the destination space..... and the transform we're converting contains both the location and the coordinate space info

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isn't destination == target?

trail wedge
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aren't you converting to DAZ?

celest musk
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no, from DAZ to UE

trail wedge
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or did I get that backwards

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ahh sorry well just use the UE ones then for the vectors

celest musk
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that can't work

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how would it know that Y in daz space is Z in UE space?

fleet tangle
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Can you not export in a difference space?

celest musk
trail wedge
celest musk
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was that sarcastic?

fleet tangle
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And what format is the DAZ rotation in?

celest musk
fleet tangle
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So the rotation is already in a vector format?

celest musk
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yea

fleet tangle
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Not a rotation from axis format, like yaw, pitch, roll?

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This is stupidly easy then.

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Just swap the axes.

trail wedge
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back to what I said a while ago.... there's probably a helper I don't know about for this in UE that makes this 1 line of code

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this is why I think this

fleet tangle
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It's already 1 line of code.

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I mean, I'd make it 4 because I like using multiple lines for initialisers.

celest musk
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it's funny how this list has minecraft but not opengl

trail wedge
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well to be fair the exact question being asked has shifted over the course of this conversation

celest musk
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as minecraft afaik uses opengl coordinate system 1:1 😄

celest musk
trail wedge
celest musk
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since that overall seems to be useful knowledge and i feel like that knowing it would be good

fleet tangle
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So, ben, just to be clear, your bone rotations are vectors and you need to convert them to... UE vectors? or rotators?

celest musk
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yea daekesh i try the euler swap now, i just cant pay attention here and code 😄

fleet tangle
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Lol okay.

celest musk
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i will report back in 10ish minutes

fleet tangle
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If you need help with matrix math to do with transforms, give me a shout. I don't know the math at all (it's been 20 years since I did it in school), but I know how to use them.

broken sigil
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I slept through my math classes but stuff kinda clicked in my head when I actually had a use for that math and could visualize it in 3d

fleet tangle
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Heh. Sort of the same for me and English. I never realised how it all worked until after I left school. in the UK, grammar isn't on the syllabus.

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And I mean that literally.

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Somebody just said, "Use commas a bit like brackets," and it kind of clicked.

unborn lotus
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We did a lot of that stuff in highschool math and cpp classes, but I can't remember anything 😅 and I had pretty good grades. Working with UE some vector stuff was vaguely familiar but that's it

fleet tangle
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It's more important to know how and when to use it to solve actual problems than to know the inner workings. Sure, the inner workings can use useful, too, but not as much as knowing how to apply them.

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The engine does all the math for you.

broken sigil
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I knew 0 English all the way up to highschool, then I started watching a lot of twitch and YT and slowly started understanding what they were saying and by the end of high school I was having perfect grades in the English classes

fleet tangle
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Nice!

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I wish I was dedicated enough to learn another language. I know some French, German and Spanish (and a tiny bit of Japanese), but not nearly enough to actually get grades.

unborn lotus
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👀👀👀 what ever happened here...he was pretty popular for learning 3ds

broken sigil
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I have no clue how that even works, I didn't have a clue what they were saying but I somehow started understanding what they were saying eventually

fleet tangle
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You get it from context, I guess.

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Your English is superb, btw!

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Where are you from?

broken sigil
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Thank you 😅
Croatia

fleet tangle
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Cool!

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What's the national language there?

broken sigil
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I still avoid speaking English tho, still didn't get over that

broken sigil
fleet tangle
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Heh. Should have guessed that one!

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😛

broken sigil
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Haha 😅

fleet tangle
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A lot of places are just a melting pot of languages, like Switzerland has like 4 national languages or something.

broken sigil
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It's funny here it's 1 language but depending on the region I might not know what the the person is even saying lol

fleet tangle
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Heavy regional dialects? Accents?

trail wedge
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Fun Random Fact Related To Croatia: Dalmatia is a region in Croatia. Dalmatian dogs came from there

broken sigil
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Yeah, only time I actually watch football lol

fleet tangle
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There was a funny thing here a few years back. They were interviewing some Irish guy with a really strong accent (he was still speaking English) and the BBC put subtitles on him.

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Created a shitstorm lol

broken sigil
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To both↑

broken sigil
broken sigil
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Yeah that's it 😅

fleet tangle
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As a non native who learn english, this is the last boss
Haha

broken sigil
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I can pick up maybe a single word lmao

fleet tangle
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I can hear it if I listen and read the subtitles.

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Well, most of it.

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The main problem is that he's speaking so fast. All the sounds roll into one.

thick oracle
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At that point its more like it's own language

broken sigil
fleet tangle
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A bit like Welsh or German.

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Which literally do have gigantic single words.

broken sigil
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German scares me lol

thick oracle
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I'm german, it's mostly not that bad

trail wedge
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I took German for 4 years in HS cause it was the easiest lang to take if you start from English (at least that was on offer in HS)

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Dutch or Frisian might be easier

broken sigil
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In middle school I took Italian classes, I actually knew some but now I know exactly 0 since I haven't used it for about 15 years lol

fleet tangle
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Frisian?

trail wedge
fleet tangle
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Lol, pretty much the same with me and French/German. I could probably decipher a written sentence, but recalling 99% of the words from memory is just not happening.

trail wedge
fleet tangle
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Reminds me of Pidgin English.

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Though I'm sure it's nothing like that.

trail wedge
celest musk
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ok this whole global space approach is also meh

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since the bones seem to not line up exactly -.-

fleet tangle
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How off are they?

celest musk
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yes

fleet tangle
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You may have the root bone position wrong

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Or the scale. Or both.

celest musk
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some are kinda okayish, like this one is okay

lHand, daz orientation: X= 178.795 Y= 135.884 Z=  -0.564
lHand,  ue orientation: X= -90.679 Y= -45.883 Z=-178.269
fleet tangle
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That doesn't look okay.

celest musk
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that would be both in UE Space

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and the Y axis probably just missing a fix from the weirdo daz coord system

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which, hear me out... aligns a bone on the first axis of it's bone rotation order 😄

fleet tangle
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It looks like rotations, not vectors.

celest musk
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yes

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it's all about rotations

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vectors from one to the other is stupid easy

fleet tangle
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You did say it was in vectors before!

celest musk
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i said i have euler angles (maybe euler vectors instead of angles)

broken sigil
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There is an example of converting from Maya's coordinate system to UEs somewhere in the fbx static mesh importer that is I believe doing something similar as what you are trying to do, could take a peek there

celest musk
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this one is bad tho

rEar, daz orientation: X=-177.694 Y=175.985 Z= 59.719
rEar,  ue orientation: X=-119.876 Y= 87.666 Z=-150.117
broken sigil
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On my phone so can't tell you the actual file and function name

celest musk
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the 60 and 120 might add up with some rotation fixing, but the 150 seems lost

fleet tangle
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Is the rotation in world space or in parent bone space?

celest musk
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that's both supposed to be world space

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since that was the basis of the idea

fleet tangle
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They may not be.

celest musk
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convert both to their world space, move the rotation over, and apply it to ue space

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FQuat UE_WorldRotation = FAnimationRuntime::GetComponentSpaceTransformRefPose(RefSkeleton, BoneIndex).GetRotation();

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that's pretty idiot proof

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same for daz, since the bones don't know any hierarchy

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they are just placed in world space

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the thing is... i tried to brute force this 😄

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rotated vectors around arbitrary rotations in both spaces, to map the bone axis, which on some bones worked

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but others not so much... 😄

fleet tangle
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I would create a known, simple skeleton in DAZ and get it importing properly.

celest musk
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the rig is from blender, i can't change that as i really need this exact rig

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and DAZ fbx export is the worst thing ever...

fleet tangle
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The point is to get the importer working correctly before moving onto more advanced stuff. 🙂

celest musk
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idk, maybe something is just f*** up my rotation values in the DAZ space...

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since i have to use FQuat to construct the world orientation (so that i can do it in the correct rotation order)

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which might lead to unexpected euler values when converting back

fleet tangle
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Are you visualising the output?

celest musk
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kind of... i'm loading a pose file for the rig which i write to an animation sequence

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so... i've seen things... collapsed bodies, broken bones, all of it 😄

fleet tangle
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I see.

celest musk
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this is bugging me, the safest way would be doing this whole rotation transposing in bone space

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but i don't know how to figure out how to map the 2nd/3rd axis of DAZ to UE

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i only really know their forward vector 😭

fleet tangle
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... are you sure nobody has made a plugin for this laready?

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Also didn't you post the picture earlier with it all in?

celest musk
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there's one which tries to solve that problem on the DAZ side and create an matching FBX

fleet tangle
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Oh, Xero did.

celest musk
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but they also struggle with animation/poses 😄

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and opening the DAZ files just in UE would be so more convenient than using DAZ....

fleet tangle
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In addition, the format assumes that all coordinate systems are right-handed and that world coordinate systems are Y-up (i.e. gravity acts in the negative-Y direction).

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X -> Y, Y -> Z, Z -> -X

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(DAZ->UE)

celest musk
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bone space is totally different from world space

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you can have pretty much anything as bone space if you wish so

fleet tangle
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It'll all be using the same coordinate system, though.

celest musk
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i think i struggled to get a solution to this

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one side, z-axis positive would rotate the bone up, but on the other side down

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also, i wouldn't even know what Z/X is on the DAZ bone

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if i could just generate some kind of translation matrix that would be the best solution, since it would also solve slightly differences in the rig

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thought something like this could be constructed by applying some predefined vectors + rotations within each bones space

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i should probably just give up on the mathematical approach 😄

pearl elk
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theres no rig mirroring in Daz is there?

celest musk
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no idea

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i only use it as a source of assets

pearl elk
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A common issue I have with 3dsmax is not being able to scale rigs after the fact, no amount of reset xform or conversions work. The only solution is to completely recreate the rig again at the correct scale. Im wondering if its one of these sorts of issues where the transform isnt correctly imported for the rig. I think thats why Maya is popular because of the way it handles rig transforms

celest musk
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people say blender has an awful user interface, they never used DAZ

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what you want should work fine in blender

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you cant scale a rig and apply the transformation in 3DS Max so that it ends up scaled as 1,1,1?

pearl elk
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it is only ever scaled at 1,1,1 it looks correct in UE but it actually isnt

celest musk
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so the armature/rig itself doesn't really have a scale in 3DS Max?

pearl elk
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I found out the hard way with how the wheels are auto positioned using the rig for vehicles. I wondered why they were never in the correct location. Turns out it has to do with the scaling of the original rig

celest musk
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do you have a root bone in 3DS Max or is it generated when you export?

pearl elk
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I have no idea how it exports, Id assume if the issue was with FBX it would do it for all rigs not just 3dsmax

celest musk
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so you exported the rig from UE to edit it in 3DS Max?

pearl elk
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no, I export from 3dsmax to UE and it displays correctly but the root scaling is incorrect if you try to scale it in 3dsmax. I have seen similar issues when auto rigs use mirroring of bones, the coordinates get flipped

celest musk
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you can for sure fix this in blender, i would never ever come up with the idea to try it in DAZ tho

pearl elk
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recreating the rig either way unfortunately

celest musk
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ok next try... this time with an lookup table based on a reference pose asset with defined rotations 😄

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brute force light

quasi mantle
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Apparently sending the wave sticker bypasses Message Request feature

quasi mantle
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Man, the storm was so intense, it's been 4 hours having power outage

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feels like it's getting stronger over time

proud jay
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changing from spotify on my phone to streaming it my tv with soundbar setup is such a vibe change

proud jay
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anyone here read "the picture of dorian gray"?

proud jay
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I've seen some of those interviews, they're hilarious

proud jay
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@ancient ingot have some coffee left?

inland oriole
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All good programmers drink ice tea, Dieter!

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👀

deep glen
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no, they keep a moderate level of drunkenness'

inland oriole
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I've never had drinks with alcohol lol.

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And yes, I'm old enough to drink if I want to 😛

deep glen
#

such a good skit. not suggest to do irl though

quasi mantle
#

why am I doing this NotLikeArisa

quasi mantle
hollow dawn
#

"daddy worked really hard on the hallway, stop skateboarding with your friends"

thick oracle
#

that was my first thought too

proud jay
proud jay
zinc matrix
#

so I registered in Twitter to advertise myself. What happens to older tweets after thousands of tweets? Are they buried down and unreachable except for direct searching?

inland oriole
unborn lotus
#

they're buried but you can still go through them

hollow dawn
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ye, alcohol is way too hard lol

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to imagine people had to drink alcohol until the arrival of tea in europe, cause they didnt really grasp the concept of boiling water...

fleet tangle
#

They just didn't know about pasteurisation!

hollow dawn
#

a pastor on pasture patrol pasteurizing pastoral pudding paste

hollow dawn
#

currently 0.5 fps... ue movie render is ruthless

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and thats two rect lights and expo fog... 4k... all epic and high and sexy

quasi mantle
#

||yes, I'm trying to copy warping world and the changing world effect||

hollow dawn
#

oh you made a procedural checker map?

quasi mantle
hollow dawn
#

world position offsets testing?

quasi mantle
hollow dawn
#

ohhh i think i know... you want that warp to another world effect from that unity artist...

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riiiight?

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did i win somin?

quasi mantle
hollow dawn
#

world pos offset prolly works too but depends on the mesh topography and is rly very expensive, no collission either sadly except your rebuild one

quasi mantle
hollow dawn
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oh hell i keep etting artifacts every 2 movie renders or so... pixelated flares, reflections in the sky like batman signs, weird streaks as if someone painted over the image with a brush... and so on... best one were the 4x the normal size images that were just red and green lines

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was super annoying to fix the specular reflection bug, took me 2 days to set all the "hidden" high quality settings that prevented Moiré pattern from appearing... like if you have parallel lines you see a sinus like curve at certain angles, but if you have a high poly mesh you have criss crossing parallel lines... and the curves overlap... creating a rhombus at each intersection

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those reflections should have straight edges...
well ya, you fix it by setting every reflection, light and uv setting to monster unreal
seems to be common in 3d apps though, had the same in Zbrush

thin aspen
#

Callisto was pretty decent

quasi mantle
#

Also updated dream drum kit

hollow dawn
thin aspen
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Ended with a cliff hanger so I wonder if it’s leading to a sequel or if you play through it in the impending DLC

proud jay
#

clearly you didn't pay the 14,99 for the ending DLC

proud jay
#

that's like the only genre I commonly see this many toms

fleet tangle
#

And the Loki actor's club.

quasi mantle
unborn lotus
quasi mantle
thin aspen
fleet tangle
#

It's all about the bots.

soft night
#
#

some say 3d printed metal bridge could be nice

hollow dawn
#

how to really piss off unreal: add a few dozen cams, select them all

soft night
quasi mantle
tulip orbit
#

what kind of drum configurator doesnt have a cowbell!??

pearl elk
#

It only has tambourine, triangle and finger cymbals

tulip orbit
#

bah!

hollow dawn
#

triangles are so underrated... did you know, if you hold two triangles together, you still have two triangles

tulip orbit
#

but on the other hand, you have different fingers

quasi mantle
quasi mantle
deep copper
ashen sky
#

Guys I have a serious question - how in the world do I estimate the amount of time it'll take me to complete a programming task when talking to an employer?

I'm currently in a state where the people I work for expect daily checkins and every time there is a dreaded question - "how long until done?"

And the truth is that I have no idea at all. I'm developing an AI system from scratch, I found it necessary to write my own movement component, etc. It's currently all in a state of "working but terrible" and I'm steadily fixing it up but it's so hard to keep up with these expectations.

Just advice on how to speak with an employer about time needed to complete something would be great. These guys are less than formal in the way they work and there's this weird parasocial thing going on where they're like trying to be my friends and whatnot, and it's getting to me. I hate disappointing people.

quasi mantle
pearl elk
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If youre struggling, running over time and stuff like that because you havnt communicated then that will lead to disappointing people

ashen sky
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The micromanagement is on the scale of days

pearl elk
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If they ask how to speed up the timeline sometimes the solution is bringing more people onboard, especially when it comes to bugs.

ashen sky
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Yea tbh I asked for them to hire another guy

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this

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omfg

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daily looming fear of having to explain exactly what I've done and worrying if they consider it not enough

pearl elk
#

I find with bugs having acouple of sets of eyes is way better, even just getting accurate repro steps can save a bunch of time. Its amazing how quickly a fresh perspective can solve some issues

ashen sky
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daily playable server + mobile app build
no joke

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3 hours dead per day

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if I had another work machine I could run the build there but alas

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anyway I'm just bitching

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at this point

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thanks for the reality checks

hollow dawn
#

i hope yuo wore a trenchcoat and fake beard

ashen sky
#

to be honest I'd rather work with a stuffy corp than this buddy-buddy shit because then it's not just a transaction its a personal expectation

pearl elk
#

I did draw the line when a company wanted me to do electrical work on a third party site and Im not a qualified electrician and Im not insured in the slightest lol

ashen sky
#

I could at least not feel bad about messing up

hollow dawn
#

"better call saul" has a good scene like that, where the cartel dudes check building contractors to build a meth lab... first dude comes all fancy "yesss, easy, one week, high tech shit and all, nno problem" second dude comes "mmmh no, sweat sweat, this and that problem, mmmh, notebook, calculator, mmmh, maybe, takes ages, risky"
1st dude has to leave
2nd dude builds a meth lab....

ashen sky
#

Thank you

ashen sky
#

I think you're right, I'm shit at setting expectations

hollow dawn
#

but then theres this chinese saying, old man fortress horse... or somin

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old man looses horse, people go "awww noo" but he goes "ahh well, who knows what it brings"
old man looks for horse, finds wife, people go "aww gratz", old man goes "well, who knows what it brings"
old man has son, people go "ohh nice", old man goes "we shall see"
old mans son falls off horse and looses leg, people go "ohhh nooo, but old man goes "we shall see"
everyone gets drafted for war, but the old mans one legged son, people go "ohh, now you got someone to take care of you".... and so on...

||what im saying is, the contractor who build the lab, later gets shot||

deep copper
#

ah, i saw a yt short on that Chinese story recently

hollow dawn
#

oh cool :)

#

chinese history podcast by chance?

deep copper
#

no idea where it was lol

hollow dawn
#

really chill podcast if curious bout china stuff

deep copper
#

i recall you mentioning chinese stuff a lot

ashen sky
hollow dawn
pearl elk
#

I think someone wants to add more hugging to human history

hollow dawn
#

if you try that for central europe, you more or less get to the religious wars and records stop, cause paper burning was so funny or somin

proud jay
#

was bored so I made a program to graph my reading progress of the year

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yes I could've done this faster in excel

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but then I wouldn't get to torture myself

hollow dawn
#

youre very much a stats man dieter :D

proud jay
#

I just think it's interesting

cursive crypt
proud jay
#

running 14 day average page reading count

proud jay
#

it was the longest one though

hollow dawn
#

ya, i totally see that you could gain more efficency and improve your reading level by at least +3

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like yuo see that baise in April? Easter holidays? terrible weather? unmotivated due to missing sunshine? get a gecko and lay next to its sunny terrarium more often

deep copper
hollow dawn
#

whispers (and battery levels)

deep copper
pearl elk
#

Dead batteries everywhere!... I love that song

deep copper
#

and i love you

pearl elk
#

people always say that when they havent seen where I buried the bodies

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would you like to see, I have a nice spot picked out for you

trail wedge
proud jay
#

also, total pages read: 3615 atm

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could be better

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year is not over yet though

#

Kinda sus that august is longer in the x axis 🤔

deep copper
deep copper
mossy nexus
hollow dawn
#

if you count all the debug logs, pop ups, help files, and youtube titles that you read... theeeeen.... you need to correct the graph

#

you might also want to account for time dilation, usually we sit still while reading, hence time goes by faster than if you would be running in circles very fast

deep copper
#

don't forget all the discord messages

hollow dawn
#

but unless you have the neck power of a chicken, it might be hard to read while running that fast

deep copper
#

it's possible, just shift the reading book equal to the head

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i bet there's some stand for books wearable on heads

primal summit
#

the eyes still bounce in the sockets

hollow dawn
#

ohh... vr.... and a movement interpolation, like the cam spring component

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vr that detects where your eyes are shifting

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maybe a phone could do that

deep copper
#

or just use tts

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hearing counts as reading if something else reads it for you?

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or is that a nah?

hollow dawn
#

that doesnt count as reading, you miss the vital part of decyphering symbols into meaning

deep copper
#

hmm alright

hollow dawn
#

its good for our brains

deep copper
#

maybe he should add suspension to his legs

primal summit
hollow dawn
#

mmmh true

terse wasp
deep copper
#

wait is that why alpha beta versions are released xD

deep glen
#

lol

hollow dawn
#

lol, lumen, no animations, no movement, every frame i render has different lighting

broken sigil
deep glen
#

both

hollow dawn
#

this is becoming more sketchy

deep glen
#

i just wanted to be inb4 omg that must be luos

hollow dawn
#

but why worry, chicken holding is honest work, as is head holding

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its as if chicken holder and chicken become one, thats not an easy feat

deep glen
#

yea, not wanting to become one with a chicken

hollow dawn
#

i mean, try to rebuild it in unreal 5....

deep glen
hollow dawn
#

i dont mind if chicken become one with my digestive juices

hollow dawn
#

but england is an island, it swims

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or did they win in cricket or somin?

proud jay
#

oh fortnite uses Lumen now

#

I guess there's a world cup match for england?

hollow dawn
#

but cricket world cup is next year O.o

soft night
#

dietered yeah 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇸🇳

silk lily
#

just finished playing chapter 4 fortnite the 5.1 update and oh my god man
turning on lumen and nanite on my 1080ti got me 40 fps
i have to turn down the settings to get 60+ fps
need to upgrade like soon cuz im running out of game i can play on high settings now

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i tested turning on nanite first andc i went from 90 fps to 60 after that than turning on lumen that make me goes to 40

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this is on high settings not epic yet

#

tried all epic and i got 15 fps

fleet tangle
#

Running in the editor != running a packaged game. Remember that.

silk lily
#

not editor but playing fortnite

#

but yeah still man

#

i need to upgrade my gpu soon

broken sigil
#

You shouldn't be getting lower frame rate with nanite

#

Should be quite the opposite

silk lily
#

maybe because of the trees in the scene?

broken sigil
#

Not sure but that's weird

silk lily
#

yeah

#

but man i know lumen is expensive but holy shit not that expensive on 10 series

#

does fortnite have dlss or fsr implemented yet?

#

cant find it on its settings

#

wait nvm

#

it does

soft night
#

it have UESS

silk lily
#

does UE use its own version or its still derived from nvidia/amd

#

ahh nice

#

man i love the chapter 4 update

#

the indoor lighting especially

fathom wadi
#

wait until Creative 2.0 comes out in January. It's gonna change things

soft night
#

laura have LauraSS for everything

carmine frigate
#

FN doesnt seem a game to benefit a whole lot from nanite... its allready build for performance

#

ya mayB..,. or added for later stuff

#

it might help if they remove normal maps and use higher poly meshes

#

i think they allready skip a few steps in the renderpipeline, but not sure about that

quasi mantle
celest musk
#

maybe turning on nanite enables VSM aswell in fortnite

broken sigil
regal pecan
silk lily
soft night
silk lily
#

even with 1080ti i get 40+fps

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😦

regal pecan
#

I'm sure they're enthusiastic about playing in 1080p with their 4090.

carmine frigate
#

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▶ Play video
#

this never happened right?

novel storm
#

Not terrible...but not useful.

#

OpenAI's chatbot

#

The future is now.

fleet tangle
#

Dogfooding?

broken sigil
#

damn fortnite does look really nice with lumen and nanite

#

Kinda wanna download it again just to look around

#

but I don't get the point of 300k triangle trees 😐

#

wonder what performance I would be getting with a 6900xt at 1440p

#

btw anyone has any game recommendations, I'm bored as hell lol

#

Preferably not anime related 😅

#

Btw this is a really good game

novel storm
broken sigil
novel storm
#

The only downside is that because it can run on a potato, the online community for the game is infested with children

#

But the game itself is great

deep glen
novel storm
#

Tons of replay value. Not as much since they added new enemies to the CyberGrind tho, and nerfed the new arm

#

I was in the top 100 players for Cybergrind before they nerfed the arm

warm bloom
#

@broken sigil honestly im usually strictly multiplayer with my friends but due to the lack of anything for everyone lately

#

went back and played games like assassin's creed odyssey

#

which is honestly really good

#

and then just like stray was good af

#

I used to time sink into league

#

shut my brain off and just waste some time

#

and now that game is just completely awful

broken sigil
#

Haven't played the 2nd one tho

#

actually it isn't out yet

#

why didn't I think it was released already

broken sigil
warm bloom
#

lol

#

me and my friend played tarkov everyday for like 16-18hrs a day

#

and hit like 2k hours in a few months

broken sigil
#

lol

#

Hmm might replay Cyberpunk again, I plated it on launch

#

A friend and I would get up at 10am, get on Rust or GTA or something else to like 1am
Haven't done that in like 6 years tho, probably for the better lol

#

Hmm playing Splitgate again might be fun

#

liked that game

#

This game was so good... until they shut down the servers 🥲

bleak remnant
broken sigil
#

And I loved this one

#

When I played it years ago there was like a single full server left
Wonder if anyone is still playing it

bleak remnant
#

I honestly thought fortnite was still on ue4

#

crazy that they take the time to update it that much

#

and showing that it's even possible for a long term game like that

bleak remnant
# broken sigil 4k

I feel like the in the world we live in 4k on a 4090 shouldn't be getting 60fps

fleet tangle
#

Maybe they have more buildings!

#

That's entirely dependent on the thing being rendered...

broken sigil
bleak remnant
#

wait

broken sigil
#

Lumen set to high is really what you wanna be using

bleak remnant
#

they have options for that now?

#

lowkey might install the game to see this

broken sigil
bleak remnant
#

is this a recent thing?

broken sigil
#

No clue, I haven't played it in years

bleak remnant
#

Laura plays everyday

broken sigil
#

nothing is as bad as Vanguard, Vanguard is where I draw my line

#

Even tho I like Valorant I'm not installing that spyware

bleak remnant
#

Valorant sux

#

play OW

fleet tangle
#

You're in no position to say anything sucks if you promote OW.

bleak remnant
#

but-but I can play as the Korean gamer girl

broken sigil
#

I actually installed valorant and uninstalled it as soon it started messing with debugging C++
It would be randomly throwing attempting to read/write protected memory (or something similar) at me

#

And would you look at that, the issue was gone as soon as I removed Vanguard

bleak remnant
#

isn't that the point? To make sure you can't have hacks hiding in your protected memory?

#

If that's even possible 🤣

broken sigil
#

it shouldn't be messing with my own apps that I'm debugging, especially not debuggers that are not even attached to the game it is supposed to guard
This tells me it's touching and looking at stuff that it really shouldn't be

bleak remnant
#

I am not advanced enough to give a take on this tbh

#

true

#

you don't have to

#

it's really just bad if you WANT to spend money tbh

#

🤷‍♂️ I didn't make the game

#

I wasn't defending

broken sigil
#

Meanwhile Respawn is actively ruining Apex, mainly why I stopped playing it
Ranked system is worse and worse and controller aim asset more and more OP, in close range combat if you are not on controller and the enemy is you are losing

bleak remnant
#

if your conscience is only bad for business you are golden

#

I don't see an entire list though

broken sigil
bleak remnant
deep glen
#

the tool is nice, but it lacks like ALL the QoL tools many others have

#

and troubleshooting is either such comments or "RTFM you nub"

thin aspen
#

You know what’s a great show that came out of the UK

#

Black mirror

deep glen
#

haha

#

lol

thin aspen
#

🤔

deep glen
#

I come across random crap when troubleshooting (or when im bored), but 99% of the time you need an account to flag a post that is against their TOS. like, wtf

#

so i just close that tab and sigh

broken sigil
#

yeah, it's even worse in cod lol

fleet tangle
#

Fantastic series.

bleak remnant
#

have you tried to play it?

#

maybe you just don't have the reaction time anymore 🤷‍♂️

fleet tangle
#

1st series is pretty shit.

#

Plus the fact it's just a giant cash grab, like the new darktide game?

bleak remnant
fleet tangle
#

Not at all.

bleak remnant
#

you think discord cares for you?

fleet tangle
#

A cash grab is putting out a low quality product in the hopes of quick income.

#

Like the new WH 40k game, Darktide, is an absolute cash grab.

#

It's buggy and poorly designed.

bleak remnant
fleet tangle
#

It is now. It's on gamepass, so don't buy it, just play it on game pass if you want to try it.

bleak remnant
#

Atleast the discord servers aren't down every week though like they used to be 😂

fleet tangle
#

Play it first.

#

Yup. I hear it's absolutely shocking.

#

The new CoD has awful reviews too, despite actually looking and playing relatively well.

#

It's just full of poor design decisions and a shitty ui.

#

It is!

#

That's the one where you have to do tricks and stuff, right? With kills?

bleak remnant
#

I don't play much cod but I do like how the guns sound in it

fleet tangle
#

New maps and new modes are always welcome!

bleak remnant
#

also animations are smooth

bleak remnant
fleet tangle
#

And new guns and stuff.

#

DMZ is really fun, too.

#

I own BF One. Only ever played the SP. 😦

#

played the others before 2042 a lot, though.

#

Mostly because they jumped about in eras a lot.

broken sigil
#

It looks very familiar, I have a feeling I played it ages ago

#

it does

viral hull
#

bulletstorm was underrated for sure

bleak remnant
#

it runs better than the original even though I completely didn't expect that

#

abk?

fleet tangle
#

King?

bleak remnant
#

sounds like what a poor person would say tbh /j

#

🙁

#

I'll just contact discord for it to be $1 to block someone /j

#

aka you can't pay for it

#

too expensive

#

lol

fleet tangle
#

Nitro required for block. Sudden increase in Nitro subs.

bleak remnant
#

I will never buy nitro now

#

$10 for animated pfp now

fleet tangle
#

Why now? Was it better before?

bleak remnant
#

b-but my sans animated pfp

fleet tangle
#

I don't see any animated pfps.

bleak remnant
#

they made it 20x worse

#

look at what it gives you

#

I hope not

fleet tangle
#

Nitro, it's the shit(s)!

fleet tangle
#

Charlie Day is pretty awsome.

remote narwhal
#

hey i have a question

fleet tangle
#

42

remote narwhal
#

what do you call this object i really need help

fleet tangle
#

A sign?

remote narwhal
#

yes but more specifically

fleet tangle
#

A lame sign?

remote narwhal
#

im trying to find the name of it so when i search it on google this kind of objects will pop up

bleak remnant
#

most accurate float

bleak remnant
remote narwhal
#

oh yes youre right it has something related to office

bleak remnant
#

oh

remote narwhal
#

thank you judging tank

regal pecan
#

related to a ring binder

remote narwhal
#

yes yes related to ring binder

bleak remnant
#

@sand oxide HOW

#

😭

fleet tangle
#

Try "folding sign"

#

Seems to work pretty well.

remote narwhal
#

ok thank you daekesh

bleak remnant
#

No purpose of this, just wanted to flex my awesome code

nova swallow
#

Laura I'm just curious, what timezone are u in?

#

I feel like you must never sleep

bleak remnant
#

This is a 2d game, playerstart doesn't work with topdown, not sure why, so I have to do it like this

#

well afaik atleast

#

and the saves are just beta because a lack of a main menu

#

I am up for any advice

#

but playerstart will not work for topdown

#

I've tried it numerous times

#

this is a pawn

#

not a camera

#

I'd be loading in this pawn though, I just put savegame though because there's no main menu and I don't want a crash

#

I meant creating myb

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not saving

#

one sec

#

so it is bugged?

#

ill generate it and check it out

#

nah, this isn't what I meant

#

in my topdown view you wouldn't move with the character, so my way of avoiding this was to make a pawn and an actor you'd control with the pawn

#

so PlayerCamera is essentially a camera with structure data in it

#

so it'd look something like this

#

is it fine to LoadSaveGames at beginplay? I just want to set a structure there

bleak remnant
#

you'll always be possessing the pawn in every level all times, a subsystem does actually sound good in theory though, although I have literally 0 experience in subsystems lol

celest musk
#

well, look into them, it should take you max an hour (to implement your first and get an idea what they do and how they work), and they are so convenient for a lot of things

bleak remnant
celest musk
#

no you don't

#

you should just do it. NOW!

lyric pulsar
#

chatGPT

unborn lotus
#

Lies

cursive crypt
#

Stands

broken sigil
#

Jesus now after finishing stranger things I have Kate Bush stuck in my head of repeat 😅

bleak remnant
quasi mantle
bleak remnant
#

Lol

quasi mantle
#

First know one of her song through GTA Vice City

#

I forgot which station it was, Flash FM?

broken sigil
#

Oh didn't know her songs were in gta too

Well I have Running Up That Hill stuck in my head lol

#

That's easily one of the best scenes in not just ST but probably one of the best scenes ever, that whole episode is so good, pretty much perfect

celest musk
#

but the topic isn't thaaat complicated and UE docs cover it quite well

tulip orbit
#

engine.makeGame(GenericFPSMMO);

celest musk
#

i wonder... would it be overkill to have a subsystem for the configuration of a plugin?

#

it would pretty much just have the configuration available and some methods to save/load it, while all the other functionality is kinda static independent methods

quasi mantle
lyric pulsar
#

It depends on the specific context and details of the plugin and its configuration options. In general, having a subsystem for the configuration of a plugin can be useful because it allows for a centralized and organized way to manage and access the settings for the plugin. This can make it easier for users to modify and customize the plugin to their liking, and it can also help developers to maintain and update the plugin more efficiently. However, if the plugin has only a few simple configuration options, then a separate subsystem might be unnecessary and could potentially add unnecessary complexity. In such cases, it might be more appropriate to handle the configuration options directly within the main plugin code. Ultimately, the decision to use a subsystem for the configuration of a plugin should be based on the specific requirements and goals of the plugin.

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@celest musk

celest musk
#

nice try GPT 😄

broken sigil
lyric pulsar
lyric pulsar
cursive crypt
#

shoo to ue channels, I want to talk about catgirls here

celest musk
cursive crypt
#

Send email to Epic to hire some.

deep copper
#

i thought you were a dog person

celest musk
#

well.. aren't catgirls often portrayed with dog personality?

deep copper
#

hmm you aren't wrong

celest musk
#

said one weirdo to the other...

deep copper
#

!!!

broken sigil
#

Yay it arrived finally, about to go to bed so gonna plug it in later tonight but it looks and feels awesome

celest musk
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that's what she said (that was probably the best opportunity for this line ever)

proud jay
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are you gonna mod it?

broken sigil
proud jay
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Since I swapped to XDA profile keycaps, OEM really does look like shit to me

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no hate

celest musk
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does it have RGB?

proud jay
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what switches are in it?

deep copper
proud jay
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at least it's hot swap, so you can do with it what you want

broken sigil
proud jay
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I'm not a linear man myself

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but nice

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cool that it has aluminium top frame though

broken sigil
proud jay
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that's a thing I miss a little about my kb

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I guess it looks like this 🤔

celest musk
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cute

broken sigil
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Apparently you can have custom color per key

proud jay
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ah yeah I can do that too

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but who does that lol

broken sigil
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It does feel very premium

proud jay
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full rgb keyboard becomes cumbersome after a while imo

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I have the rgb on where it shortly lights up the key you just pressed in a random color

celest musk
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well, he could make the letters of blue man... blue

proud jay
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that's the only setting I can live with full time tbh

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What I don't like about most "premium" keyboards is that they're always wired. I get wired is nice for responsiveness and all, but wireless is so user-friendly imo

broken sigil
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No key rattle or anything, stabilizers are good, it's very well built

proud jay
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e.g. taking my keeb to the office and such

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Glorious makes pretty quality stuff in general though

celest musk
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isn't wireless kinda on par by now

proud jay
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well

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it's definitely useable

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but I do still notice a difference when I plug it in

celest musk
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maybe it's psychological, because you expect it

proud jay
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not that I would ever care except if I was like a super serious 300fps shooter gamer

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if you don't think about it you definitely don't notice it

broken sigil
proud jay
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the problem with buying a nice keyboard is that you can never go back

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like typing on a "normal" keyboard now feels so dirty to me

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even typing on my previous cheap mechanical keyboard pains me now that I have my custom one

celest musk
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here i'm, in the $20 keyboard master league

deep copper
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if it works, it works

celest musk
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i'm happy with it

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and with $20 it doesn't hurt if it breaks

deep copper
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i am happy with you too

broken sigil
deep copper
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thanks for the heads up, so that i never use high end keyboards in order to keep working on cheap keyboards

celest musk
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it doesn't only work for keyboards

broken sigil
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High refresh monitors and mechanical keyboards are 2 things you can't go back from once you try it, you will be forever spoiled

celest musk
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same for high resolution

proud jay
broken sigil
celest musk
proud jay
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I don't think mud evolved a lot the past few years tbh

celest musk
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but now that it snows here... it might feel like when the wet snow get soaked up by your shoes

celest musk
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which is one of the worst things ever

proud jay
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put on waterproof boots if you walk through snow lol

deep copper
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walk using your hands !

proud jay
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then your gloves get wet

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it's friggin cold here atm

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the insulation of my apartment sucks ass

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I'm sitting in 15 degrees

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and that is with the space heater on

broken sigil
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I physically can't be in cold for too long, after like 5m my hands turn blue and I can't feel them lol
Circulation in my hands sucks, It has always been like that

proud jay
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you have an... interesting... body

broken sigil
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I also have a bent finger

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From birth

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It looks weird

proud jay
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aren't fingers supposed to bend

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or like to the side

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like what kind of angel we talking about

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bro what

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lol

broken sigil
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Lmao

proud jay
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never tried to break your finger to put it in place?

celest musk
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xD

proud jay
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must be weird pressing buttons with that kind of finger

celest musk
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stop

proud jay
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oh that I can do too

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I could also put my index finger flat against my hand when I was younger

broken sigil
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It kinda pops out of its place lol

proud jay
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now I can only do it like 3/4th of the way

celest musk
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i thought i have seen bad things when i wrote my pose importer...

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but bro

broken sigil
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Welcome to your daily dose of nightmares

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I'm debating if I should delete these lol

celest musk
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you should

proud jay
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doxxing your hands 😔

celest musk
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i'm just exaggerating if that wasn't obvious enough

broken sigil
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I removed it, no more hands for you

celest musk
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except of your index finger, thats really bad .... 😄

proud jay
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did you color correct those images to make your hands not blue btw 🤔

broken sigil
proud jay
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are you a vampire per chance

broken sigil
proud jay
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oh I thought it was the index wtf

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ok, then the button pressing is not an issue

broken sigil
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It's funny seeing the reactions when I show that to someone lol

cursive crypt
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Mutant

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But apparently, many ppl have weird fingers.

proud jay
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so like if you rest your pinky against your ring finger there's a gap?

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or does the tip bend correctly then

cursive crypt
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I can turn back my thumb's tip near 90 degrees, but can't move it more than 30 in the opposite (normal) direction

broken sigil
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I can also dislocate my shoulder and pop it back in, only my left one lol

cursive crypt
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I heard that after trauma ppl can do that. In fact, is kinda bad because it can happen when you don't want it.

broken sigil
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Yeah if I lay on it in a weird way it kinda slips out lol

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But never had problems with it

cursive crypt
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Don't lift heavy grocery bags. Your hands may stay down.

broken sigil
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👀

cursive crypt
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Reminds me of that elastic man from fantastic 4

broken sigil
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Trying to remember if I have any other weird anomalies lol

celest musk
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didn't you want to go to bed...? 😄

broken sigil
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Like 30m ago 😅
It's 11am

celest musk
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indeed, always thought you are from US

broken sigil
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Nah, I just have a really messed up sleep schedule

proud jay
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classic vampire stuff

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^ BM on a night out

broken sigil
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Lmao

fluid bloom
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oof I had forgotten to update my tax details when I started at my new job

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now my tax rate for the rest of the year is 53.5% xD

ancient ingot
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Pleb

proud jay
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you guys have to manage that yourself?

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I only fall in the 45% tax bracket 😎

ancient ingot
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We have the wonderful hm revenue and customs to do that shit

proud jay
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like 5k short to fall in 50% highest bracket