fatal error
#lounge
celest musk
deep copper
๐ญ
sorry ben i couldn't reach you because of bad programming, programming kills
i should've hired someone super skilled from #volunteer-projects instead
pure summit
0 errors 0 warnings 0 courseWork
deep copper
0 errors 0 warnings 0 courseWork
deep copper
doggo
pure summit
https://tenor.com/view/peanuts-peanut-factory-nuts-gif-13787679
anya-san love beanuts
deep copper
anya-san love beanuts
do you love peanuts?
pure summit
do you love peanuts?
too much even the small ones, the small ones are more sweeter
then add salt
deep copper
too much even the small ones, the small ones are more sweeter
so you like it satly and small too, noted ๐
deep copper
https://tenor.com/view/mr-cakes-foodie-delicious-homemade-foodiegram-gif-2359152...
what was the point of doing this
soft night
to make shape you want and push extra out
median wraith
Damm were trying the A star pathfinder included inside the engine and had super bad results on 40 agents, lord
deep copper
ow ๐ข that's not very good
median wraith
Oh man if you keep changing the name I won't know who you are
Seems like the base pawn can go up 300 actors on decent fps on my computer
but it don't avoid other actors and some get stuck
I think that part is only on the CMC as you say
median wraith
somehow still the bug I reported in 2015 still unfixed, if you changed the navmesh to dynamic and back to static don't work anymore @ionic flame
proud jay
why fusion360 lol
but you also use blender already
which is a way more logical choice
proud jay
rip
deep glen
rofl, daz is utter crap. decent results, but who-ever made it fell in a tub of crack
deep glen
clearly you missed the chat earlier today
I did
deep glen
but im too lazy to scroll up with all the gifspam
median wraith
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/x8yhv5/queen_under_medical_supervisi...
yep that was showcased on news
proud jay
people watch the news?
median wraith
at least she didn't miss the WW3
edgy ice
Bro she was in the war
proud jay
all of them
deep glen
XD its already a miracle that games can be made WITH daz
turbid spindleBOT
@deep glen, :8ball: As I see it, yes.
pure summit
lounge was a mistake
proud jay
wildest email I received today
edgy ice
Might be because I'm still relatively new to game development but
edgy ice
What's a daz.
please don't kill me
Is it the mythical push 1 button to churn out AAA studio :U?
edgy ice
Y'all using fancy studios and stuff, I'm just gonna use Houdini
deep glen
hides
proud jay
no he drowned
proud jay
jk he died of sepsis apparently
edgy ice
He's chilling with Tupac and Micheal Jackson
zinc matrix
are you chatting about Hoodie?
proud jay
no you are Laura
zinc matrix
Daz studio seems a pretty polished product
proud jay
I don't think it's from Poland
deep glen
Daz studio seems a pretty polished product
zinc matrix
i do not think you can substitute with Blender
edgy ice
Blenders only real issue is it's insane bar to entry.
proud jay
can't even make games without it
zinc matrix
???
it is a human creation tool
at least you can use anywhere and not be locked in the game-engine
proud jay
what is a game, if not human?
edgy ice
Blender is agony to learn and has too many tools, making simple actions take 50 years lol
proud jay
I think they threw out the game engine from blender
zinc matrix
but Blender 3.3 LTS has hair tools now, so i do not know
edgy ice
I been saying for ages now blender needs to split into two programs
deep glen
???
take it from someone who used it for a year. its more pleasant to use razors on your eyes XD
edgy ice
It feels like using CS6 with 20000 brushes off the net
zinc matrix
take it from someone who used it for a year. its more pleasant to use razors on ...
ok! i was judging by their website
i do not like paid stuff
zinc matrix
I think they threw out the game engine from blender
they did?
i know some people are still on it
zinc matrix
it's a separate thing now afaik
oh yes, but i think this segregation happened on 2.8 update
proud jay
yes
zinc matrix
really sad ๐ฆ
i wish Godot team would continue their effort
but actually i just got agnostic from the open-source community
edgy ice
they are afaik
edgy ice
i tried godot 4 and its pretty solid but yea its still
barebones
2d is good tho
but hey, they got vulkan now
zinc matrix
it is HUG time
edgy ice
thats a thing
zinc matrix
๐ซ
proud jay
@deep copper your presence is requested
zinc matrix
i love being ignored here
proud jay
you should get your own emote for being ignored
zinc matrix
my favorite hobby since i started to slave myself on solo game dev.
proud jay
zinc matrix
well at least Dieter, the holder of a custom emote on this community did not blocked me
and AU loves me, so
proud jay
well at least Dieter, the holder of a custom emote on this community did not blo...
yet*
terse wasp
i tried godot 4 and its pretty solid but yea its still
It's far from solid still. If you do super duper small stuff, sure. In my team's experience - constant crashes, ridiculously sluggish editor after about 10-15 minutes, so constantly have to restart the engine, performance that is no where close to what they've been promising for all these years, and a random new feature that next to know one actually asked for constantly being added, thus pushing the actual stable release date further and further back.
proud jay
well if you insist, I can block you
terse wasp
There are so many problems with Godot 4 at the moment that it is a complete pipe dream to have anything remotely stable this year or most of next year.
zinc matrix
It's far from solid still. If you do super duper small stuff, sure. In my team's...
so, just like UE5? kek
terse wasp
UE5 is stable software compared to Godot4
edgy ice
oh i agree
zinc matrix
they should stick with 2D
edgy ice
no arguments, i said it was barebones lol
zinc matrix
and then build their way on 3D when they got resources
edgy ice
the 2d is solid tho
zinc matrix
but i am no business planner
terse wasp
Everything I mentioned has next to nothing to do with it being barebones or not
proud jay
they should just drop 3d
edgy ice
its not a bad engine, its just clear the devs had a vision in mind that was biting it in the ass
terse wasp
The devs had no vision - that is the issue.
proud jay
were they all blind?
terse wasp
They keep flip flopping
proud jay
that's wild
edgy ice
i disagree tbh, they made a free open source MIT label engine with a solid strong 2d foundation and their own python based language
thats pretty focused imo
zinc matrix
i hope after they trail Godot 4, they make a team and develop a game with it
edgy ice
they just tried to add 3d and thats where everything hit the fan rofl
zinc matrix
thats pretty focused imo
more than 50% of their community is interested in 3D development
proud jay
so focused, they now again dropped the visual scripting
terse wasp
lol - 3D came before 2D in the development cycle
zinc matrix
at least from Twitter research on Reduzio profile
edgy ice
mh, fair enough.
zinc matrix
which is one of the creators
edgy ice
i dont claim to be an expert
just a guy who tried it and got tired of the lack of good C# tutorials
proud jay
have you seen the microsoft docs?
terse wasp
Unfortunately - this is one area where I am quite knowledgable. Been using it for 5+ years and helped with bugs, training, and docs.
edgy ice
^
deep copper
it is HUG time
๐ซ
zinc matrix
yes
proud jay
if I would have inspiration for a 2d game I would definitely consider Godot
edgy ice
ayy, sup AU
terse wasp
I can teach you how to convert GDScript to C# quite easily. Then it opens the entire engine for you
deep copper
ayy, sup AU
dieter summoned me ! is all
terse wasp
Change w/e they're using from snake_case to PascalCase
Boom - you're done.
move_and_slide() becomes MoveAndSlide()
deep copper
ayy, sup AU
you ? finally resting?
zinc matrix
dieter summoned me ! is all
you already summoned on the guts of this chat
edgy ice
the one day a year i can tell the world to fuck off and die, so yes
:V
oh, and get cake
thats a nice plus.
proud jay
dieter summoned me ! is all
aren't you happy I presented you with a hugging opportunity?
edgy ice
tho this year im getting flan, which is superior to cake fight me
deep copper
aren't you happy I presented you with a hugging opportunity?
i am very thankful!
terse wasp
Even the creator of Rimworld was interested in Godot but decided against it because they don't have a direction.
zinc matrix
but i truly hope Godot gets momentum
terse wasp
Godot tries to be everything for everyone
It already has momentum
That is not the issue
zinc matrix
FOSS should be the future
edgy ice
im with luq here, i want godot to be a heavy hitter
deep copper
tho this year im getting flan, which is superior to cake fight me
i .. have never heard of that xD
zinc matrix
for real? all i can see is a really vocal community that makes some prototypes of small games all the time
edgy ice
but i hope it becomes a major contender
zinc matrix
Unity Reddit everyday pop-outs with a really polished game
proud jay
Godot tries to be everything for everyone
is this blender?
terse wasp
It is the 2nd most used engine in gamejams. Right behind Unity
deep copper
i like how small godot is, i hope it is fast as well so impatient people like me can finally use something
edgy ice
oh sure, im mainly talking about it having some heavy hitters under its belt
zinc matrix
i like how small godot is, i hope it is fast as well so impatient people like me...
are you learning game dev.? O>O
edgy ice
like big titles
terse wasp
It won't
deep copper
are you learning game dev.? O>O
no but if I don't have to wait for downloads or compilers, i might have
terse wasp
It is not attractive to the people who can make the heavy hitters
zinc matrix
no but if I don't have to wait for downloads or compilers, i might have
i would love to play a game made by you, seriously
i can imagine a hug mechanic straight out of the box
edgy ice
all it takes is that one guy with enough spite, determination and crack to do it :V
terse wasp
Thus far, everyone I've seen use it for a sizeable game, ends up leaving the engine someway through their project and remake it in another engine/framework
edgy ice
AU would make a game where you kill people with kindness
deep copper
i can imagine a hug mechanic straight out of the box
that sounds like something i would do y s
yes*
deep copper
that's what i like yay
proud jay
Thus far, everyone I've seen use it for a sizeable game, ends up leaving the eng...
so godot is unity confirmed?
terse wasp
Godot just makes it painful for people to complete larger-than-gamejam projects.
zinc matrix
why?
proud jay
so Unity right?
zinc matrix
how does it not?
deep copper
it's a bit too simplified, i heard godot uses very simple algorithms
stray orbit
I just have to say Godot ๐คฃ
terse wasp
The tools are half-implemented
zinc matrix
i think Unity way more confusing to build a large thing than the node tree of Godot
zinc matrix
I just have to say Godot ๐คฃ
nice pfp
edgy ice
from a newbie's perspective, yea i agree
stray orbit
Thanks. ๐
zinc matrix
sorry for the stalk, why are you leaving Godot and UE?
terse wasp
Godot has been around since 2001. The engine as we know it, with the nodes/scene tree stuff has been around since 06 or 07. It was open-sourced in 2014. It got a new "state of the art" renderer in 2017/2018 and is getting a new one sometime in the future with Vulkan. In the entire 21 year lifespan of Godot, it has only ever been used to make small games.
The devs simply don't make larger games so they don't have experience with tools that are needed to scale.
Which is why everything is so simple in Godot
I'm not saying there isn't a place for an engine like Godot
Not saying that at all
stray orbit
I've used Godot for about as long as Duro has... and the engine is embarrassingly bad for 3D. The renderer, while it can push polygons... it has so many problems and artifacting... it's like a really bad joke everyone around Godot takes seriously.
terse wasp
I really like the engine
But the reality of it all is - it's an engine used mainly for small, tiny games (comparatively speaking) and the tooling demonstrates that.
zinc matrix
lol and i am at the edge of going nuts and installing linux and godot forever
terse wasp
I'm not saying that you can't do larger games
zinc matrix
my game is not large
terse wasp
It's just - more painful than what it needs to be
zinc matrix
would be cool if Godot could implement a way to translate Unity tutorials on C# on theirs really easy
idk how ethical it is
but would be really nice
stray orbit
The import pipeline for Godot is like playing roulette with your animation assets.
zinc matrix
and sincerely, FOSS should take over
terse wasp
You can use any tutorial from any engine for any engine
zinc matrix
yeah, chat you with code background
terse wasp
You need to focus on the concept of the tutorial. Not the specific APIs used
deep copper
unless you don't know game dev or how api work ๐ข
zinc matrix
@stray orbit so are you jumping into the Unity ship?
stray orbit
<@205131802824802304> so are you jumping into the Unity ship?
I'm jumping on the Unreal ship, away from the Godot ship.
terse wasp
Whoever said anything about jumping ship?
proud jay
godot runs on linux?
stray orbit
I mean, I'd use Godot for game jams. ๐
deep copper
hey well, whatever floats your boat !
proud jay
damn I just spelled godot as goto
stray orbit
... where things can look half-assed, and it won't matter, because it's just 3 days.
proud jay
my brain is on too much c++
zinc matrix
my brain is on too much c++
did you drink the troll juice today
deep copper
your go-to engine for jams
edgy ice
I use both tbh, when I'm home I'm working on my UE5 project, when I'm out and about I use Godot on my weaker laptop if I'm not writing up draft code for my UE5 project lol
deep copper
multiple projects ahoy !
deep copper
you really are similar to makoto
edgy ice
Y'know I know you keep talking about a person but I just keep thinking of makoto from persona 5 and it makes me laugh
edgy ice
Because I am anything but a highly intelligent workaholic who can kick my ass 7 ways til Sunday
deep copper
we do not chat about them here
poor mako ๐ญ
stray orbit
I think Godot COULD be a good engine... if Juan ever gets his hands off it, and lets people improve it the way it should be improved. Until then, his weird 1990s outlook on what a game engine should be, and his obsessive need to micromanage everyone else's code will do nothing but hamper the engine. It's really just the "Reduz Engine". The whole community developed thing is a fund-raising falsity. What goes into Godot is whatever Juan whims it to be and nothing but.
stray orbit
Anyway, end of my rant. ๐
zinc matrix
wow
open-source projects driven by community?
do you want Godot splitting in 70 software?
deep copper
Y'know I know you keep talking about a person but I just keep thinking of makoto...
i don't even know what persona 5 is
zinc matrix
seriously, the dumbest crowd i ever seem in any business is the linux one
edgy ice
JRPG. good stuff.
zinc matrix
they have like, 5 different type of Emacs
7 different type of Vim editors
19 graphical interfaces
1900 OSs
stray orbit
Ye, but even THE most popular feature requests, like terrain, got shot down by Juan because "Nobody needs it"
zinc matrix
have you ever took a look at terrain build inside Blender?
geo-nodes are really neat for that
deep copper
I think Godot COULD be a good engine... if Juan ever gets his hands off it, and ...
maybe they are afraid of it getting very heavy and complex like other modern engines
terse wasp
There are plenty of reasons why you want terrain tools inside of your game engine.
stray orbit
Do you know how painful it is to re-adjust terrain for game worlds... and having to go back into a modeler and re-export and re-import just to fix a 5% slope? ๐
fleet tangle
Ye, but even THE most popular feature requests, like terrain, got shot down by J...
It's just not in the godot landscape?
deep copper
they have like, 5 different type of Emacs
exactly why i stayed away from linux, it's too peesonlizable
zinc matrix
and why community does not work on a plugin
deep copper
personlizable*
zinc matrix
the source code is there
edgy ice
its also a bit too obnoxious to do simple things sometimes
idk, i been using linux cuz steam deck
and i dont mind it, i kinda like it
stray orbit
I just say... if you wanna use Godot on a game. Good luck and Godspeed, because you're gonna need divine intervention. ๐
edgy ice
but theres moments where im just like man.
terse wasp
There is a plugin for terrain in Godot. But it's written in GDScript. Which is equivalent to writing a terrain system in Blueprint.
zinc matrix
take the avid community and make it code in c++?
terse wasp
Most of the community are complete noobs to gamedev (I don't mean that offensively or anything like that mind you)
zinc matrix
so why they are using something that does not support them?
terse wasp
Idk dude - ask them?
zinc matrix
i had a bad time on Godot community
terse wasp
If you're the type of person who wants to build everything yourself - go for it. You do you boo.
zinc matrix
at least i got ranted on off-topic is less than a day
terse wasp
Personally - I'd rather not reinvent the wheel
Pretty much.
My current desires are more for releasing games. Not tools.
stray orbit
My desire is not to curl up in a ball and cry when I see the shadows. ๐คฃ
deep copper
my desire is to hug everyone here rn
zinc matrix
mine is forget foss and just be okay with unity
zinc matrix
i think every other day i wonder about getting into godot
stray orbit
Wait, Duro, do I have competition now? ๐คฃ
terse wasp
stray orbit
I think we could be good friends!
deep copper
i hope i am witnessing a start of a great friendship
timber viper
If I'd have skills of Laura I'd just go wild and add operator shrug to cpp 
deep copper
that's probably why you are blocked, luq
zinc matrix
she reads my messages
timber viper
If I'd have skills of Laura I'd just go wild and ~~add operator shrug to cpp~~ <...
should be relatively easy to do compared to writing everything from zero for a game engine tool
deep copper
mine too, oddly enough
zinc matrix
they are a good person, after all
deep copper
If I'd have skills of Laura I'd just go wild and ~~add operator shrug to cpp~~ <...
if i had that reading speed I'd read so many books
timber viper
same, tbh, really
zinc matrix
Laura i C++ you!!! โค๏ธ
timber viper
if i had that reading speed I'd read so many books
I'd exactly do that
terse wasp
If I'd have skills of Laura
I'd probably just expand my sarcasm to more topics.
stray orbit
If I had any skills, I'd have released a game by now. ๐
deep copper
I'd exactly do that
and scare people with response before their message gets sent
zinc matrix
they answered me ๐ ๐ ๐ค
deep copper
they answered me ๐ ๐ ๐ค
I'd answer you all you want โค๏ธ
zinc matrix
they answered me ๐ ๐ ๐ค
#lounge message that didnt last long
terse wasp
I'm a patient individual
zinc matrix
I'd answer you all you want โค๏ธ
you are too easy
deep copper
you are too easy
i can be hard
zinc matrix
i can be hard
do it!
timber viper
who is this? only wrong answers
deep copper
manny has 2 of those
zinc matrix
manny has 2 of those
HARDER
timber viper
Laura responds faster than Manny sometimes
deep copper
Laura responds faster than Manny sometimes
yeah
manny waits for the message to atleast be visible
see
terse wasp
They've been saying v2 is on the way for as long as Epic has been saying Verse is on its way ๐
zinc matrix
manny waits for the message to atleast be visible
i thought it was written in js, so it takes a minute or two to process
terse wasp
Next lifetime, got it
deep copper
i thought it was written in js, so it takes a minute or two to process
dunno i forgot what it was, but probably
timber viper
luqtas can go first 
terse wasp
My condolences
terse wasp
That's alright - go to Godot so you can have 3
zinc matrix
and laura
deep copper
dieter is adorbs
zinc matrix
That's alright - go to Godot so you can have 3
i am a noob
terse wasp
Reject engines. Use frameworks
zinc matrix
godot is just friendly if you want to use move_and_slide() for moving a sprite and that is all
deep copper
it's dangerous out there ! take duro with you !
zinc matrix
other than that, there is basically 0 resources
yes, return
Laura lets build a game
plzzzzzzzzz
deep copper
wait how in the world does duro knows about grapes
timber viper
Green plum > grape
timber viper
only 1/2 of Jeff Bezos's net worth
fleet tangle
Green plum > grape
Non-ripe plums?
timber viper
Non-ripe plums?
yes
fleet tangle
Hmm!
timber viper
if i can get those after we finish the game?
why dont you ask @proud jay instead, he knows C++
zinc matrix
why dont you ask <@140633160848375809> instead, he knows C++
you do not chat to me
terse wasp
godot is just friendly if you want to use move_and_slide() for moving a sprite a...
To be fair - it isn't exactly difficult for any of the engines to make something move on the screen. All share fairly similar straight-forward code to get it to move.
timber viper
you always ignore, block or are rude
๐ฅณ
terse wasp
Wow Eren is so โฃ๏ธ
timber viper
Wow Eren is so โฃ๏ธ
aren't we all 
timber viper
same
terse wasp
You have to be in order to survive there (or be siliex - but then you get blocked for being too helpful)
zinc matrix
yes
stray orbit
I can make something move on the screen in Assembly if you press me into it. ๐
But I won't like it. And I'll hate you forever afterward.
zinc matrix
i am not into red circles
i mean, you are not going to the Unity ship
what can i love?
timber viper
i am not into red circles
like this?
terse wasp
You might be one of the few people who is jumping ship to Unity after their recent blunders ๐คฃ
stray orbit
There's nothing wrong with Unity. Some of my best friends are Unity.
terse wasp
To be fair - Unity is the best engine for mobile ๐ญ
But luckily I don't care about mobile
zinc matrix
if they not obligate me to place ads on my game, i am fine
timber viper
Cant godot beat unity for mobile?
terse wasp
Just need some rage Laura who really really really wants to make mobile games
terse wasp
Cant godot beat unity for mobile?
Not really.
timber viper
is godot that bad? 
terse wasp
Unity has better support for all forms of monetization and better performance.
timber viper
nani
zinc matrix
a software that is nice to do mobile, can translate into low-end pc games nicely or there is no correlation?
terse wasp
Better overall support for the various phones as well. More tested code for mobile and all that.
stray orbit
Can we use Unreal to make hypercasual pixel games? ๐
zinc matrix
stray orbit
That's what I like to hear.
zinc matrix
a software that is nice to do mobile, can translate into low-end pc games nicely...
. please c++ ppl
terse wasp
Most people that I've seen have had issues with doing mobile in Godot. Like, it works - but it's a roll of the dice from what I've seen. And the help for mobile is near non-existent @timber viper
fleet tangle
to ship something with ue5
One of our guys got the android package down to like 40-50mb.
terse wasp
I have seen some cool stuff on mobile from Godot mind you. But the average case is what I prefer to consider.
stray orbit
I've done some super hypercasual games for mobile in Godot... it wasn't a bad experience.
fleet tangle
That might just be 64bit, though.
stiff crystal
Godot 4 is bound to be unstable throughout it's development
fleet tangle
No idea, it was like a year ago ๐
stray orbit
Though, I usually had to use a tool to re-align the APK every time... because whatever, I don't understand Android all that much. ๐
timber viper
Most people that I've seen have had issues with doing mobile in Godot. Like, it ...
so it's like pre-fortnite ios release UE
stiff crystal
better just wait for Godot 5.. but then they will redo it all for 5 too and cycle repeats
terse wasp
so it's like pre-fortnite ios release UE
Couldn't say - but I'm just going to go with "yes"
stiff crystal
Godot 4 got new custom physics engine even... like.. what could go wrong
zinc matrix
better just wait for Godot 5.. but then they will redo it all for 5 too and cycl...
that is pure rage
stiff crystal
looking at chaos
zinc matrix
Godot will ditch numbered updates after 4.1
stray orbit
Godot 4 got new custom physics engine even... like.. what could go wrong
I think you mean "new half-finished physics engine"
terse wasp
iOS is even more rough for Godot because it's more difficult for the devs to test things on. Hardware constraints and all that jazz
stiff crystal
that is pure rage
it's just my educated opinion after following them since Godot 2
zinc matrix
One of our guys got the android package down to like 40-50mb.
i got it down to ~60megs, but i basically blacklisted everything, so cant say that you could make full game with it ๐
and then it will be backwards compatibility for an entire century
stiff crystal
just look at what all they changed on Godot 4
there's no way that's stable in following year or two
tardy plaza
Hell there. I was wondering if it is possible to invert my camera controls when I use my middle mouse button. (like how controls work in maya)โบ๏ธ
stiff crystal
last time I tried their alpha, even basic transform gizmo was all broken
stopped tinkering there
terse wasp
The only thing that I have hope for with Godot's new physics engine is that the person who was doing it was actually half-decent. I mean, they got hired at Rockstar after all. Sure, they've stopped working on Godot since, but the foundation is kind of there ๐
timber viper
Hell there. I was wondering if it is possible to invert my camera controls when ...
You can try asking in #ue5-general
zinc matrix
said the ancient mage of c++
she basically can answer anything
from Vulkan to UI design
fleet tangle
You can try asking in <#846520322642411570>
They did, nobody answered.
stray orbit
The only thing that I have hope for with Godot's new physics engine is that the ...
I can imagine the burden of that choice. "Do I work on Godot? Or go to work for Rockstar? Hmmm... this is a tough decision!"
tardy plaza
oh
terse wasp
They did, nobody answered.
Well - lounge definitely ain't the right place as a follow-up, lol
timber viper
Hell there. I was wondering if it is possible to invert my camera controls when ...
from Google
I found this
can you try?
stiff crystal
all this being said, ue5 isn't in that great shape right now either
terse wasp
Also keep in mind - the goals for Chaos and Godot's in-house physics engine are massively different.
stiff crystal
it'll take year or two to get to a state where it'll feel more production ready
that happened with ue4 and 5.0 and 5.1 seem to follow that suit too
timber viper
5.2 will be real 5.1 
stiff crystal
5.1 is still very broken for me on things I use from it
zinc matrix
are they adding nanite on skeletal meshes?
stiff crystal
just compiled latest 5.1 branch few hours ago
stray orbit
You know, I haven't done the pinball test with Godot 4 yet.... ๐ Because, with any previous version of Godot, balls would 100% tunnel through the paddles every time. ๐
terse wasp
I've had minimal issues with 5.0 to be honest. I also get the benefit of using Duro++
terse wasp
You know, I haven't done the pinball test with Godot 4 yet.... ๐ Because, with ...
Remember - Nerdiful tried it, gave up
stiff crystal
but I do get I'm using things from it that Epic probably doesn't test that much right now.. like VR
terse wasp
Because of the dumb shit
stray orbit
Remember - Nerdiful tried it, gave up
Oh yea, that's right too... I forgot. ๐
stiff crystal
VR's stereo instancing has been broken for me after 5.0 for a long time ago in main too
timber viper
5.1 branch is like Epic saying "go find bugs for us, peasants!!"
terse wasp
In Fortnite we trust
terse wasp
I'd stick with 4.x if I were doing VR
stiff crystal
this is their VR template, out of the box... it renders this on your left eye... and right eye just renders black
so you get both two eyes views chugged into one eye view with some UV math being completely broken
zinc matrix
hit me
stiff crystal
5.1 still working in VR if you don't use stereo instancing
but you kinda want that in VR
terse wasp
Just convince Laura that VR is really really good thing to pursue. Get her interested. Then get her frustrated. Will probably fix things faster than Epic.
zinc matrix
how is Godot going with the Meta found?
stiff crystal
I had mobile multiview enabled today while trying to package
terse wasp
Can't wait for the day for UE to be fractured.
- Epic's UE version
- Community maintained version of UE
stiff crystal
that mobile renderer is really nice on PC too but I don't think it'll get that much support
terse wasp
how is Godot going with the Meta found?
They're spending it? It's money.
zinc matrix
They're spending it? It's money.
they just throw money on the general development?
timber viper
Can't wait for the day for UE to be fractured.
1. Epic's UE version
2. Community...
Tbh, if I had money I'd even fund it
tardy plaza
from Google
Thank you soo much ๐ . This is Awesome! ty
timber viper
Community deserves something better than Epic
stiff crystal
community maintained UE sounds like a nightmare
zinc matrix
ahh Eren answer was from Google
stiff crystal
it's already too bloated
timber viper
community maintained UE sounds like a nightmare
depends on who maintaining it
zinc matrix
the arrows were really sweet coming from them
hehe
let me cringe a bit more
i wonder if people will only give me attention when i finish a game and it is successful
timber viper
there are some people got very experienced with specific parts of engine and has ideas about how to improve
zinc matrix
i should return to irc dad friends, at least they answer me
timber viper
they could contribute a lot
stiff crystal
also.. community can already maintain their own UE forks and they do it
I maintained one fork for years for physics mods and gameworks integrations, but it was very specifically for those purposes only
timber viper
I wonder if it would be a good idea to write a github bot that takes most voted rejected Epic PRs
stiff crystal
wonder what are the chances to get your PR accepted nowadays on the main repo
terse wasp
Slim to none
stiff crystal
timber viper
unless you can convince it'll be great pr for fortnite
proud jay
Unless you fix a typo with extra goatse of course
stray orbit
So, still higher than the chances of getting a PR in Godot? ๐
stiff crystal
back in the early UE4 days, we were stuck at like few hundred and it didn't really take that long to get your fixes in if they were reasonable
terse wasp
Unless you fix a typo with extra goatse of course
This is my plan to get the "engine developer" tag
stiff crystal
seems like now it's kinda lost cause
terse wasp
This is my plan to get the "engine developer" tag
This way I can look down on you non-engine developer peasants
stray orbit
Ah crap, I'm doomed.
terse wasp
But but pleaseeeeeee
Updating the license: "MIT for everyone except Duroxxigar"
Oh - it is BSD-3 licensed
This whole time I thought MIT
terse wasp
Licenses are to be ignored. This is the law of the land
Wait - so this license seems like it's like the MIT one except it mentions that the holder doesn't endorse shit used by it
I like it more than MIT already
timber viper
So turns out I was taking 3k calories (which is 1k more than how much I should) but I'm still not able to gain weight
deep copper
hold me and you would definitely gain some dead weight
soft night
zinc matrix
So turns out I was taking 3k calories (which is 1k more than how much I should) ...
keep doing that for one year, and i bet you start gaining
deep copper
you will gain more than you would without it for sure
timber viper
Based on the math, I'm suppose to gain 1kg in a week though
7k calories is 1kg
I was taking 1k more every day
since around.. 10 days?
i guess
deep copper
how much expenditure?
terse wasp
Pretty sure if I do that at my age I'll have a heart attack
timber viper
how much expenditure?
App doenst calculate that but probably very less
It takes some estimated value from the option you choosed
like "I move too much" "I just sit or sleep all day" etc
deep copper
it would be cool if you could tell it you gained nothing so it fixes stuff or gives tips
is ai not in the diet field yet ?
turbid spindleBOT
@timber viper, :8ball: Cannot predict now.
deep copper
!8ball will eren get heavy
turbid spindleBOT
@deep copper, :8ball: As I see it, yes.
deep copper
!8ball can i lift eren
turbid spindleBOT
@deep copper, :8ball: Signs point to yes.
timber viper
turbid spindleBOT
@deep copper, :8ball: Outlook not so good.
deep copper
yeah definitely not heavy enough then, eren
timber viper
how come you're not going to turn into an AoT giant in the future?
!8ball will au turn into a giant
turbid spindleBOT
@timber viper, :8ball: My reply is no.
timber viper
deep copper
!8ball is eren a giant
turbid spindleBOT
@deep copper, :8ball: Most likely.
deep copper
xD
timber viper
hey, no spoilers
deep copper
you are a lightweight giant
๐
imagine a normal human not even strong lifting an aot giant
!8ball
turbid spindleBOT
Ask the Magic 8-Ball a yes/no question.
deep copper
h
turbid spindleBOT
@deep copper, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.
timber viper
sure every software has possible bugs
turbid spindleBOT
@deep copper, :8ball: It is certain.
deep copper
yeah it is
timber viper
!8ball did you just lie
turbid spindleBOT
@timber viper, :8ball: Don't count on it.
timber viper
deep copper
#ue5-general if you want to debug it maybe with someone's help maybe
timber viper
they use volatile everywhere?
deep copper
or some weird new default checkbox
oh yeah, by default it generally works fine unless you are under spec so it will crash
but it doesn't bugs out still
real flint
Anyone know the band avril lavigne
timber viper
I started UE with 4gb ram
deep copper
I started UE with 4gb ram
same
real flint
Good songs
deep copper
what happened then ?
timber viper
Anyone know the band avril lavigne
not a fan of it, but yeah quite good one
stiff crystal
it's still eating all RAM you throw at it
deep copper
I had AMD HD6750
i wish i knew how good this is
timber viper
at 2022 I'm barely able to hold on with 32gb
timber viper
i wish i knew how good this is
pre-2013 means "terrible"
stiff crystal
running at 64gb atm
timber viper
i was not able to play far cry 3 on high settings
deep copper
ah,
real flint
Am started with this
timber viper
i was able to play DS2 though, I was very surprised
deep copper
i wish i knew what far cry was ..
deep copper
i was able to play DS2 though, I was very surprised
wait you started ue5 on it ?
i started 4.10 on my 4gb ram thing
timber viper
I had 32gb when UE5 released
I was on 4.18 or something with 4gb
I joined the party late
fleet tangle
I'm surprised Windows even runs with 4gb of ram
timber viper
I had a friend who modeled a character of 22 millions of triangles with 2GB ram
by disabling body part visibility whenever he switched to another one
he crashed a lot too
like almost 50 times or something
stiff crystal
zbrush probably
timber viper
blender 2.8
real flint
Wow
deep copper
I'm surprised Windows even runs with 4gb of ram
i heard windows scales, the more ram you add the more it eats
timber viper
now he got a 8gb ram laptop but still suffering ๐
supple apex
i heard windows scales, the more ram you add the more it eats
Don't add ram then, add sheep.
deep copper
I had a friend who modeled a character of 22 millions of triangles with 2GB ram
impressive, yes, give them a hug if you haven't already, they suffered a lot
stiff crystal
did 2.8 improve on high poly models on blender? it used to run really badly once the poly count went up, even with enough RAM
timber viper
impressive, yes, give them a hug if you haven't already, they suffered a lot
My real world friends already gets hugs from me whenever I meet them
deep copper
Don't add ram then, add sheep.
i sleep after 3 sheep sticks
real flint
Have 13 tabs open and two game launchers. 32g
deep copper
My real world friends already gets hugs from me whenever I meet them
i am jealous
real flint
Will compare it to in editor etc
zinc matrix
i run puppy linux on my old laptop. it consumes ~500megs of memory and is really fast. pretty good for youtube/netflix machine
timber viper
Have 13 tabs open and two game launchers. 32g
Run 
on it
and watch the world burning
โฌ
๏ธ
deep copper
small ssd maybe
real flint
It has 7200rpm
timber viper
"youre a loser, get a rope loser, controller is retarded"
such a way to gain audience
real flint
Lol a wake up time of 1min is okay.
That would be the only improvement to ssd
real flint
Slight boot boost i guess
stiff crystal
lol
timber viper
what is daz studio even for exact
metahuman but way worse
real flint
Lol i know ๐คฃ
supple apex
what is daz studio even for exact
This what's a daz and daz vendetta stuffs should be in FAQ at this point, smh...
timber viper
ok but why did you share this fact with us
deep copper
This what's a daz and daz vendetta stuffs should be in FAQ at this point, smh...
bold of you to assume people read that
timber viper
"fuck this game fuck this fuck that"
such a philosophy
explains why you focused on such things
terse wasp
I started gamedev because I raged at Hitman 2016
timber viper
haven't we?
zinc matrix
Anyone know the band avril lavigne
complicated
lofty lark
no controller support, only joystick 
proud jay
avril lavigne?
deep copper
i sense automod being tickled here
timber viper
Young Artists for Haiti
real flint
complicated
Try this one
Thing's I'll Never Say (B-sides version)
foggy path
i sense automod being tickled here
Should we talk about Jon Skeet
terse wasp
raged to what exactly
The AI. I wanted to lure some guards away from an entry point. So I went into the bathroom, shot a gun, dropped the gun and walked out. NO ONE was near me when I left or shot the gun. Went and stood off to the side. They immediately knew it was me who did it. Gunned me down. I raged and picked up Unity at that point and started learning how to program.
I have yet to implement this mechanic in any game I've done thus far ๐
deep copper
Should we talk about Jon Skeet
I'd prefer talking about you โค๏ธ
real flint
More than just a pretty face
timber viper
The AI. I wanted to lure some guards away from an entry point. So I went into th...
I know how it feels ๐
foggy path
I'd prefer talking about you โค๏ธ
My name doesn't trip automod tho
real flint
Breakdown girl
timber viper
Happened to me a few times in hitman too
proud jay
britnney does have better jiggle physics
supple apex
Who's britnney?
terse wasp
What happened?
terse wasp
Who's britnney?
proud jay
uh oh
foggy path
Talking about jiggle physics is weird but it gets increasingly cringy when it continues into real women
proud jay
time to โฎ๏ธ out
soft night
deep copper
now we wait for luos
supple apex
TMI people...
terse wasp
Happened to me a few times in hitman too
Love Hitman though. One of my favorite series. I got into it on Hitman 2.
timber viper
Love Hitman though. One of my favorite series. I got into it on Hitman 2.
I love Hitman a lot too
terse wasp
Sounds like Veteran difficulty for CoD. At least back when I was playing it more in the mid-2000's
proud jay
I don't like where this is going
stray orbit
I wonder how difficult it would be to use something like GPT-3 to command an AI system.... ๐
timber viper
<@&213101288538374145> that's quite 3rd attempt of this person going quite nfsw 
deep copper
I don't like where this is going
let me escort you out
proud jay
isn't gpt3 ai by itself
supple apex
Your dog a shiba tank? Corgi?
proud jay
idk never tried to do anything with gpt3 myself
stray orbit
Yes, GPT-3 is AI... but it's meant for prediction/finishing something... so, what if you gave it a bunch of AI/player positions... and then had it command where your units should go to counter the player.
timber viper
not quite comfortable with creepines though.. remember the lounge back when 3 weeks ago
terse wasp
stray orbit
It can do more than just complete text. People use it for organizing and collating data, etc.
Text completon is what it's mostly known for though.
zinc matrix
gigachad
supple apex
Bernese is not a saint bernard right?
Never saw one mixed with a black lab, lemme google and see if I can find 1.
proud jay
I sincerely regret reading that
terse wasp
I scrolled down some more from that linked comment. I regret doing so.
zinc matrix
Try this one
Thing's I'll Never Say (B-sides version)
the whole album is nice
turbid spindleBOT
:no_entry_sign: AnalAndro#6964 was banned.
deep copper
okay luos is here
terse wasp
And AnalAndro is not
proud jay
big ๐ซ
deep glen
cant wait to read their appeal
supple apex
:no_entry_sign: **AnalAndro#6964** was banned.
No strike? Whoa, strong hammer.
stone saddle
stone saddle
you can appeal via the bot when you get banned
deep copper
they were kinda going overboard even after complaints
deep glen
trough manny
deep copper
so direct ban seems valid
proud jay
thanks Manny
deep copper
you can actually appeal bans?
that's how sk0g revived
zinc matrix
@real flint actually is been a while, but usually these pop stars singing about love are really cruel most of the time, or really sad ๐
proud jay
you might want to cover your eyes before reading that one
supple apex
I see, adorable if so๐
real flint
<@1016424818700197969> actually is been a while, but usually these pop stars sin...
Ofc. Gotta suffer foyo Art
deep glen
thats going to mod-channel
soft night
zinc matrix
Ofc. Gotta suffer foyo Art
no you do not
turbid spindleBOT
:triangular_flag_on_post: luqtas#5315 received strike 1. As a result, they were muted for 10 minutes.
supple apex
Ow wow
stone saddle
@deep glen i've been looking at the history of that person for about 5 minutes or so, a strike is definitely merited
real flint
I would like to use games to appeal to this
timber viper
I'm pretty sure if that convo wouldnt split up into 3 days you would consider a direct ban hammer
stone saddle
we can discuss if a 2nd one is needed though
timber viper
rather than a strike
proud jay
why stop at 2 ๐
lofty lark
Go for the hat trick
stone saddle
hence, why discussion will happen
lofty lark
I'm interested in fluffy doggos ๐ฆ
stone saddle
but at a quick glance, it's easy to tell, will need to look further, but i'm headed out the door for coffee and beignets
timber viper
I'm interested in patting Tank's doggo's head
proud jay
people actually just casaully eat beignets?
stone saddle
:: hides back into hole (text channels frighten me) ::
supple apex
I'll vote for that โ๏ธ
proud jay
like not just at fun fairs and stuff?
real flint
I really like mictosoft edge.
Set it up right and it can do everything chrome can and better
soft night
terse wasp
What's next Dieter - you need a special occasion to eat a cake?
stone saddle
like not just at fun fairs and stuff?
i'm in New Orleans ^_^
stray orbit
I just did some searching... it seems like a few people used GPT-3 to create a chess AI. it was really good starting out, but became slightly more erratic as the game progressed. Maybe that could even be beneficial to a game AI... prevents the AI from being predictable. ๐ I might have to try this at some point, lol.
deep copper
they can stream cute doggos live
proud jay
I'd love to visit new orleans one day, but it's so far
timber viper
proud jay
if for nothing else just for jazz history's sake
timber viper
damn so cute
proud jay
very fluf
real flint
My reactions
stone saddle
dawwwww
real flint
They dont stay why ๐ฆ
supple apex
Yours?
Looks like one of the drooly fluffer.
timber viper
where is the cap Tank
proud jay
They dont stay why ๐ฆ
probably means the person you're reacting to blocked you
soft night
stiff crystal
real flint
Oh ok
timber viper
Since Tank is a giant
stiff crystal
must be american
timber viper
I saw this before but still 11/10
supple apex
How old is that potat? 3-4 years?
proud jay
nice hat too
timber viper
nice hat too
hat makes the perfection
supple apex
Cute ๐
Next thing we know, we got #doggo #pets or #fluffs
terse wasp
supple apex
Cute ๐
Next thing we know, we got #doggo #pets or #fluffs
Cmon mods, make it happen.
timber viper
luqtas left ๐ฅณ
anyway creepiness was irritiating enough, i hope lounge calms down a little bit after today's judgement 
timber viper
deep copper
Cute ๐
Next thing we know, we got #doggo #pets or #fluffs
sounds like #eyebleach
supple apex
sounds like #eyebleach
Bad channel name, bad AU, I vote #fluffs
deep copper
Bad channel name, bad AU, I vote #fluffs
that's what it was called on reddit, used after you see some traumatizing stuff
supple apex
that's what it was called on reddit, used after you see some traumatizing stuff
I know, still prefer #fluffs or #pets
zinc matrix
i did not left!
deep copper
I know, still prefer #fluffs or #pets
I'd prefer you โค๏ธ
proud jay
nor did you leave
zinc matrix
btw would be nice an appointment on my innapropriate messages!!
proud jay
I mean, Laura pointed to it pretty specifically
but you can make an appointment over the phone
deep copper
i mean, with a specific link to the message and many voting for it, a strike couldn't be stopped,
zinc matrix
i may be missing something on the visual field
deep glen
lets keep the moderation-talk at a minimum
supple apex
I'd prefer you โค๏ธ
When horizon did that, it kinda sounds cringey, I wlnder if your profile pic kinda saved you there.
deep copper
When horizon did that, it kinda sounds cringey, I wlnder if your profile pic kin...
exactly why i try to tailor it for safety lol
turbid spindleBOT
@zinc matrix, :8ball: Most likely.
deep copper
it was with consent apperantly
deep glen
it actually walked up to me to be picked up.
deep copper
apparently*
proud jay
some chicks just want to be held
supple apex
it actually walked up to me to be picked up.
I didn't know you understand Chickish.
terse wasp
My wife's mom has chickens. They definitely approach us to be picked up and hugged and all that.
stray orbit
some chicks just want to be held
It's all fun and games until you hold a chick, and then the rest of the box starts chirping... and you have to hold them all.
deep glen
I didn't know you understand Chickish.
nahh, my bald head just looks like an egg
terse wasp
something like mother... in law?
No. My wife's mom /s
deep copper
i was just thinking i should buy chickens
deep copper
i just realised luos has a bald head
deep copper
ok i am hurt emotionally since the strike
dw, your conduct has been better for a few days ! it will be okay !
you do know that, by doing that, lounge would lose fluffs
like it lost ai art
stray orbit
A chicken-cat channel?
deep copper
or chat for short
terse wasp
I only read the first message
deep copper
yay make #announcements floof
supple apex
But but... dedicated doses of fluffs.
terse wasp
Oh yeah - that's a channel
zinc matrix
ok before i leave
stray orbit
Putting chicken-cat in stable diffusion certainly brings out some interesting results. ๐
zinc matrix
can i send a song to Laura?
deep copper
if it's not something like what that banned guy sent
zinc matrix
i swear i was not in the composition
nah, i do not think
@sand oxide https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ulOgzjdBdzY
deep copper
you can't see pings from blocked users so rip ๐ข
supple apex
So, how hard it is to give that doggo of yours a bath?
One of the obedient ones I guess.
proud jay
does he wear his hat in bath as well?
deep copper
shouldn't he have a different hat for bath
supple apex
He can handle a bath but not a hat?
11/10 potat.
supple apex
That sounds like an all directional rain hazard.
deep copper
do you have a dog too ?
proud jay
do you?
supple apex
@deep copper try using horizon like avatar and keep acting like you usually do AU, wanna know how different the vibe is.
deep copper
you like bicycles o.o
they like tanks for sure
deep copper
<@926083750276780073> try using horizon like avatar and keep acting like you usu...
i also won't feel into it
zinc matrix
they had a tyre of the dog photo
deep copper
<@926083750276780073> try using horizon like avatar and keep acting like you usu...
and do you have a dog too
supple apex
and do you have a dog too
Oh, you were asking me?
The answer to that is ||redacted||
deep copper
we got the same ๐
wait where's its insides
deep copper
Oh, you were asking me?
The answer to that is ||redacted||
if you ever want one, use me for trial
supple apex
if you ever want one, use me for trial
Cringe
deep copper
poor tyre
lofty lark
Little late to the dog sharing party but
zinc matrix
wait do you have a seat for it?
lofty lark
floppy ear ๐
deep copper
maybe they grab it and zoom
zinc matrix
oh boy
deep copper
ah, yeah it is huge
zinc matrix
hahaha
supple apex
Little late to the dog sharing party but
Looks like the pic's shoot in either japan or canada, bet it's neither though.
Cute btw.
deep copper
i am getting gangster vibes from miles
supple apex
Above was Gunnar, here is Miles ๐
Is that an after bath bribe? ๐
deep copper
probably drugs yeah
lofty lark
xD No, he would just sometime grab food he knows he couldn't eat, and just walk into the living room with it in his mouth. He did that multiple times
deep copper
are you feeding them well
lofty lark
And here was old girl Izzy back when she was a puppy
lofty lark
are you feeding them well
Yeah they were fed well ๐
supple apex
are you feeding them well
A well is too voluminous for them to eat, try kibbles.
lofty lark
Miles was a goober
deep copper
a breed ?
terse wasp
Yeah they were fed well ๐
"were" ๐ญ
lofty lark
nono, like, a goof ball. goofy, odd, funny, etc.
deep copper
ah
supple apex
nono, like, a goof ball. goofy, odd, funny, etc.
Pretty sure that's the default setting for all of them.
lofty lark
All three of them together, Izzy, Gunnar, Miles ๐
deep copper
yeah i rarely hear of super clever dogs
or serious dogs
or sleepy dogs
i thought dogs were territorial, so pets have multi dog support
supple apex
Dogs? Serious? Please...
(need that chinese nba player meme here, forgot the name)
terse wasp
The dog in my profile picture is the smartest dog I've ever seen/had
Opening gates, sneaking food, learning words ASAP, etc...
Wicked smart.
lofty lark
He loved his whoopie pies xD I can't remember which, but either my dad or his wife have a little statue of Miles with a whoopie pie in his mouth
terse wasp
Super frustrating though. 'Cause I know he does things intentionally - so like he'd be barking at someone minding their own business. He knows he's not supposed to. That's what makes it more frustrating. I know that he knows and he is doing it intentionally, lol
deep copper
Super frustrating though. 'Cause I know he does things intentionally - so like h...
omg that's scary
now you gotta worry if something's wrong with that person
i heard animals can sense weird things
from thieves to diseases
and drugs
terse wasp
Well - when they're barking at literally everyone that walks by...
lofty lark
Mud and wet dog smells everywhere...
supple apex
Super frustrating though. 'Cause I know he does things intentionally - so like h...
Probably the guy just smell funny to him, or smell familiar maybe.
deep copper
Well - when they're barking at literally everyone that walks by...
it was greeting them ?!
supple apex
Isn't that like, a lot?
How on earth did you have enough time to learn cpp.
lofty lark
Lobo getting all the walks 
supple apex
You're techically a fulltime dog walker with a developer side job.
Thought you mean this mean you say 'walks'.
edgy ice
see im glad i have a smol dog
for me its 20m walks everyday
and an additional 10~30 if im headed out
supple apex
Office as well?
Eh, but you did say you were remote, guess you csn have the fluff around easier that way.
edgy ice
oh no not just one walk
lol
hes a TINY dog tho, 6lbs
and these days we cant walk much anyways
lofty lark
hes a TINY dog tho, 6lbs
so smol
edgy ice
his heart wont handle it
supple apex
hes a TINY dog tho, 6lbs
What breed?
edgy ice
you tell me
hes a rescue and the runt of his litter
hes some kinda chihuahua prolly mixed with some kinda terrier
supple apex
you tell me
Pics?
