#lounge

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deep copper
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theh are someone people ignore

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i think you should

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but I don't know

zinc matrix
turbid spindleBOT
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:triangular_flag_on_post: Mintybadger#3438 received strike 3. As a result, they were banned.

tall plume
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oh

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well okay

zinc matrix
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idk

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for me it was ok

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shocking..

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i hope people do it to me

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when i raise a red flag

tall plume
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like, it's not wrong, but not appropriate for this server

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also i think this is one of the first 3 strike bans since we implemented the system

deep copper
deep copper
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considering they were 3 striked, it seems like a repeat offender

zinc matrix
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i think being attracted to minor is hella lot wrong..

tall plume
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right the image was calling people like that out

zinc matrix
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there is type of minors

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a 16 year old when you are 18 for me does not feels like a big deal

tall plume
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anyway, there isn't much discussion to be had here, the image was not appropriate

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Do not turn this into a discussion about being attracted to minors

zinc matrix
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Dragonite?

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your pfp is a dragonite?

tall plume
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with a messenger bag

zinc matrix
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3rd generation?

tall plume
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nope

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its from the Mewtwo's Revenge movie

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when Dragonite delivers a letter to Ash

zinc matrix
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generation 1

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yeah, i confused with the evolution of Bagon

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i played the heck out of my soul on Emerald

edgy ice
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What did I come back to

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What happened lol

lofty lark
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Dragonite obviously. It's right there, flapping it's wings

edgy ice
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I meant the ban rofl

lofty lark
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Dragonite happened. That's why he's smiling. That messenger bag contained a letter saying, "You're banned." chefKiss

zinc matrix
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i mean, i dont know much either, but it sounded like a place where you can go in games that have vikings and stuff 😛

edgy ice
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O I c

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Rofl

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Oh good night, 18 gig update to cyberpunk

deep copper
deep copper
zinc matrix
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could also be next valheim dlc

tall plume
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lol

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well it was my first

deep copper
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did they all fall by posting weird memes ? what does the big data says

lofty lark
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big data says Dragonite has a taste for blood

deep copper
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first blood's taste acquired

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now they will get addicted

lofty lark
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Please do

tall plume
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because that is basically the scene, a dragonite appears, hands ash a letter, ash reads the letter, and then dragonite flies off

deep copper
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what's the letter about?

tall plume
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"[User was banned for this post]" would be such a good letter

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it was inviting ash to take part in a pokemon tournament

deep copper
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ah xD

tall plume
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jeeze watch the movie!

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they remade it in 3d

deep copper
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i can't when i got so many people to hug !

tall plume
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they actually had it in some movie theaters when it came out

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and they'd give you a special promo Mew pokemon card

deep copper
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the card makes it worth it tbh

tall plume
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3d cgi remake

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but the special mew was for the first one

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yeah

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uh

deep copper
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do you have the mew ?

tall plume
deep copper
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ah so that's where metwo is from

tall plume
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they're apparently worth lots of money now

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but i gave them all to my nephew years ago

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so 🤷🏽‍♂️

deep copper
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well yeah, premium cards

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what

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well, okay

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it's still your nephew

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you can keep me instead if you like, this is a joke, don't ban me

deep glen
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why did I read this as "You can keep insulting me, but..."

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was like, who do i need to strike

zinc matrix
deep glen
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no

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:p

zinc matrix
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rages

deep copper
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jk

zinc matrix
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ok i was just checking if hitted was a word

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but how could you?

deep copper
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i think i can try ! 🪄

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!8ball strike luq

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :8ball: My sources say no.

deep copper
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guess i failed 😛

zinc matrix
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Unity users are protected

deep copper
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yes, protection is a must !

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for they are united as one

zinc matrix
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have you guys played stardew valley? im thinking about buying it. looks cozy game

deep copper
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csound ?

zinc matrix
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Unity has tutorials on how to find tutorials

deep copper
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ah xD

zinc matrix
deep copper
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that's neat

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well if it couldn't that would be weird yeah

zinc matrix
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i bet

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i bought it, so if you dont hear about me in several days, send help

deep copper
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though i am useless, you will have some emergency food

zinc matrix
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there is a co-op! O.O

deep glen
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even modded in a red-haired hailey with freckles XD

zinc matrix
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i saw that new disney game and people said it was similar to that, so i got interested 🙂

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that looked fun too, but only consoles

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i wonder what Maxxis will do to the next Sims!

deep glen
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forced online with nft's

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at least, they were considering it

zinc matrix
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they are very inclusive, no!?

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i am yet to try newer ones

deep glen
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its my guilty pleasure

zinc matrix
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i briefly played Sims 2

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and recently some hours of Sims 1 on the GBA

zinc matrix
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but i was obligated to fish

deep glen
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send help

zinc matrix
turbid spindleBOT
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@zinc matrix, :8ball: Cannot predict now.

zinc matrix
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bummer

cursive crypt
deep glen
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ikr

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but for sims its whopping

cursive crypt
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Gotta agree, much less polys.

deep glen
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lower tex res

cursive crypt
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ak47 for sims

deep glen
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cant even handle 4k textures unless you heavily mod it, and then it ONLY allows 4k textures and crashes on lower res

cursive crypt
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Isn't there hipoly curved body for sims?

deep glen
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there are body replacers yea

zinc matrix
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wait, wat.. that disney game is using unity engine 🤔

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looks kinda nice

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oh!

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WALL-E is such an insensible creature

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it is on top of a cabbage!

broken sigil
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So I'm at a hospital
My doctor sent me

Been having a headache for a week and my pupils are slightly different sizes 😐

Fu*k me....

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I'm not catching a break this year it seems

cursive crypt
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Pupils? Hmm... what does that mean?

foggy path
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Sounds like it could be some kind of neurological issue... but probably best to let the experts at the hospital figure it out :P

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There's a lot of random shit that can have those kindsa things I guess, I bet even stress could cause it if it's bad enough

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Oh, or migraines

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So it could be nothing serious in that sense, just annoying :P

lofty lark
broken sigil
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Have a CT scan in a bit so I'll let you all know how it goes

cursive crypt
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Playing a bit of Dying Light 2, the Narrative can be sometimes from cringe to stupid. Controls can get weird sometimes. Also the "juicy" wounds on zombies make me roll eyes.

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Gotta love too how npc teleport everywhere.

zinc matrix
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i think they fired their main writer during development. or something like that.

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some intern probably wrote the last parts ..

left granite
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am i the only person thats wondering if that chicken luos is holding is still alive ?

zinc matrix
supple apex
left granite
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hmm

supple apex
left granite
left granite
supple apex
tulip orbit
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if they dont, thats why the world is falling apart

supple apex
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I forgot which scene that comes from though, kindergarten cop? Turbo man?

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Getta da choppah~

tulip orbit
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kindergarden cop

zinc matrix
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the current generation is lost!

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feel how silly they are...

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trying to glide into the moon

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Grow Up, 3 hours to beat and get the glider with an engine!

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this game feels so nice with a podcast

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pure love

storm matrix
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Hello. My name is Ferdi. I have been developing myself in game design and development with great passion for 12 years. At first, I started by making 3D designs. We tried to develop games with people I met over time. Most unfinished business, of course. Over time, I developed myself in the technical aspects of 3D design related to games and game engines. 6 years ago, I started to learn unreal engine with very little software knowledge. In this process, there was a gap full of financial and life problems, where I had to stay away from the computer for 3 years. I've dealt with dozens of jobs away from game development. These follow-ups had positive effects on my social life.

I learned that my friends with whom I played games in 2010-2014 quit their profession 2 years ago and entered the game design and development business with all their knowledge. At that time I was working as a cleaner in a warehouse. And they offered me a higher salary than my country's average wage. Although they were very successful people in their fields, it was not long before they started to develop their skills in gaming. When I joined them for 1 year, I prepared models for the game projects they were currently developing. I trained myself a little more on Zbrush and did my best to improve the quality of the models.

1.1.5 years after the team's first meeting, their financial savings started to decrease and we stopped our game project and started developing games outside. These projects were generally online casino games. The people we met in this part of the industry and the conversations made were often not very suitable for our team culture, but we continued so that we could continue to work financially. We made a business deal with a big online casino company in a different country and 3 of my friends went to that country. After a while, we would go as the people who were left behind.

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The person we made an agreement with almost ignored our entire agreement and caused us to run out of our last remaining financial power for 4 months.
When they got the news of this breakup and informed me for a while, I thought things would go bad and morale would be low.

And in Unreal Engine, which I have been trying to learn and improve myself with great pleasure at every opportunity for the last 6 years, I decided to develop a small prototype that I prepared in my spare time about a month ago. This was my first project that I was going to start developing all on my own. I think I started in mid-March 2022. The project took shape over time. The idea was not original, but it is a game project in the style of "Vampire survivals", as we do not want to develop hypercasual games and we do not have enough financial and workforce.
The experience I've had since I first started the project has been incredibly satisfying to me personally.

Things have gotten worse over the last 4 months and the team is almost on the verge of disbanding. I worked full time on the project I developed, almost day and night, and my other friends were interested in other jobs. They were helpful from time to time as needed. They were in the process of continuous improvement in the planning and feedback parts.

Now the project is on the verge of completion, but we are the same 🙂

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First of all, I may have dramatized what happened. I love my communication with my colleagues and the way we work. All we want is to be able to continue on the way we started.

Among my friends, I have friends who are very talented and experienced in the field of software apart from game development, are image directors and anthropology graduates.

In our country, investment in game projects is made in hypercasual games. Since we do not develop hypercasual or derivatives games, it has been incredibly difficult to find investments.

My question is: What can be done to survive and move forward in such situations?

The technical difficulties we faced were never intimidating. In general, the individuals or companies we work with or work with for a fee did not keep their promises and helped us to progress as a team over time.

If you want, I can send you a steam test code for the game I'm talking about.

The purpose of writing these sentences here is to pierce my heart a little, to get your experiences and comments, and if there are relevant people, and to find people who believe that the project can take the future of my team in the sector and can help.

In the things I told, I described most of the places superficially or I skipped too many details.

Let me finish now. I apologize to everyone for my bad English.

zinc matrix
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develop hyper-casual games?

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i mean, i am sorry for your experience...

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hope that you trim more next time hiring; but as a noob here, i do not feel any escape beyond doing hyper-casual to gain momentum and then develop what you want

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if you did not lost the files of the bigger games, they are idling, they can always be worked again after a while

storm matrix
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@zinc matrix Thank you. I am actually satisfied with the bad experiences in this process. Only the events of the last months and the way these events reflect on our lives have seriously worn out my friends, as we actually know what we can do. 2 months ago, I had to leave them and return to my family. I continue the project with the support of my family. As much as they can in my family, they know my passion for this job and my friends support me as they know it. But I have friends who are married. The problems caused by the fact that they channel their whole lives to this work bother me more.

Actually, this is not the end. In any way, our life can go on, but it is scary to lose the momentum and excitement we have gained and not be able to pick it up again.

As for hyper-casual game development. This is a solution for the current situation, but it makes more sense to focus on things that have already come to a point.

zinc matrix
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i mean, esoteric comment certainly

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and just to clarify, i make 0 $ on this field, living with my parents

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but if your married friends are in the void, maybe the casual games to get budget is smarter than trying to rely on a single big game

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as the % of kickstart founding that goes alright is really low, as the amount of financial successes on this field, specially on the indie side

supple apex
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@storm matrix
An advice, keep your posts in readable lengths of chunks.
I understand you have a lot to say, but long blocks of texts just wouldn't cut it on discord.

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Try joining the voice chat channel maybe?

storm matrix
cursive crypt
regal pecan
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I've always wondered if it would be viable to make a gambling game that doesn't require real money or some other parasitic investment.

cursive crypt
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You can bet some game units.

regal pecan
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I assume the thrill of gambling comes from being put at risk... hard to do if you have an unlimited supply of in-game currency. Maybe there's a way to do that with the threat of exponential progress.

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But still, my assumption may be wrong.

cursive crypt
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"unlim supply" is the assumed here. It is about the value of a symbol, so put it behind some effort.

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For example, in a DarkSouls-like game you can bet the horns of a devil boss.

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Time bounding half an hour battle. kek

regal pecan
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Although that risks breaking the 'addiction' loop of gambling.

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Unless the effort is also a gambling minigame.

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Gamble so you can gamble...

cursive crypt
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Many addiction games are based on just "one-more" like a famous web games. I remember personal experience with one of these jewel aligning games, where pieces just fall from above like in tetris. With a bit of effects it worked.

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Anyway, going to beat some juicy zombies and marvel at narrative quirks.

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(read nonsense)

regal pecan
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Mmm, narrative quirks.

cursive crypt
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MC can be cringe sometimes

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btw, taking out the control from the player sucks in any game I have played so far, don't do it.

supple apex
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Risk doesn't always have to be in the form of in game money.

timber viper
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in MMOs

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some sort of a gamble

regal pecan
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Although HL2-style live cutscenes where you lock the player in a room while they run in circles and jump off the scenery aren't great either. As the player though, I do feel a bit guilty for ignoring the character animations in favor of feeding the adrenaline rush.

supple apex
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Didn't eve online have that risk factor where you can take people's playtime by destroying their ships?
ISKs or something?

timber viper
# storm matrix First of all, I may have dramatized what happened. I love my communication with ...

1- Dont collaborate with anyone in Turkey, only 1% of the people has actual experience here
2- No money = suffering & wasting 10x more time than it should be for a game, bad game design = no investor
3- Dont rely on teammates if you're not paying to them
4- Either have a very small scope that you can build everything in blueprints or get very good at C++ so you can build a prototype on your own without being dependent on anyone
5- If you have no money and teammates to work with you'll only survive if you are able to handle the suffering

regal pecan
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I don't think ISKs are ordinarily transported in ships.

supple apex
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It feeds the sense of risk, every action in that game is a gamble.

zinc matrix
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grinds

supple apex
timber viper
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Ranked games are gamble 😄

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R6 intensifies

supple apex
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Depends on how you monetize/manage/manipulate the risk factor 🤔

regal pecan
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Rationally, most everything, even money, is a cost through time investment.

timber viper
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I'd give my soul to play a MMO like shadow of mordor

supple apex
regal pecan
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It's only gambling if you stand to gain anything. 😛

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Eating ice cream doesn't have a random element of loss... unless you're making your own.

zinc matrix
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i think the point Zenn is trying to do is; gambling may not be the worse practice we can create as game developers

regal pecan
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Forgot the pistachios AGAIN.

timber viper
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Based on science most satisfying thing is shopping

zinc matrix
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or sex

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or drugs

timber viper
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Yes if you live in Turkey you have to guess if you buy today, is it going to be cheaper or more expensive because of inflation xD

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Would you believe I lost $200 because of this ^

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I spent ₺ but its equal to $200

regal pecan
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Did they implement clothes on the blockchain in Turkey? 😛

supple apex
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It's a gamble if you don't have a clue whether the ice cream have a vanilla taste or snot taste when you buy it inside the package~

timber viper
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Chocolate flavor is the best

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and lemon

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damn now I want ice cream ANGERY

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#lounge always make me crave something

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ew, salty chocolate?

supple apex
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I'll take bubblegum and matcha, they taste great.

regal pecan
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It does not.

timber viper
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I'm not into salt when it comes to things has sugar inside of it

regal pecan
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Though there's a significant portion of people who don't like sweets with their salty things, so there may be hard differences in people's taste buds.

supple apex
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Seasalt taste I've seen, haven't taste it, but salty chocolate?
Really?
That sounds illegal

timber viper
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Even imagining makes me want to puke

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not because I'm reserved though, Im just having difficulty imagining how can it be tasty

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bet 😄

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I totally heard from a zoomer

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I guess it means "deal"? no idea

regal pecan
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might be derived from "you bet" short for "you can bet on it" or "you can count on it"

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So you are officially liable for one pint of salty chocolate ice cream.

timber viper
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like Fujiwara? ^

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that works too

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yes

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||why would you convert Hayasaka into a man ffs||

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I'm on EP7 iirc

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had to take a break to not binge

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btw even ||kei thinks hayasaka is more beautiful than shinomia||

regal pecan
timber viper
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Would make sense, ||they are about to graduate anyway||

regal pecan
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Interestingly, platforming games have some element of randomness, since player performance is essentially random.

timber viper
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N++

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they had a whole GDC about that ^

supple apex
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ExoticallyJudgedTank.
UltraSaltyTank.
ExoticallySaltyTank.

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Not that I have that much problem with salt and sweet though, I eat my fries with sundaes or ice cone.
But at least they're vanilla taste, not chocolate~

supple apex
pure summit
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too late i used the west town city

supple apex
regal pecan
pure summit
regal pecan
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I'm going to ignore that and pretend people are trading actual levels because that sounds really weird.
"A whole level? That must be heavy."

pure summit
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bad dog like memory leaking

regal pecan
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And they're craftable, probably. Since everything in PoE seems to be craftable in some way or other.

broken sigil
# broken sigil Have a CT scan in a bit so I'll let you all know how it goes

So in the end they didn't do CT
They got the blood results, neurologist looked at me and basically they said there isn't anything serious going on
Most likely dry eyes, or my lifestyle of staring into the screen all day

Got another appointment with a neurologist and an ophthalmologist in a week
But they said my different pupils sizes are probably because I have different diopter on each eye, left -0.75 and right -0.85

regal pecan
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I know there's many ways to introduce a risk or cost. Maybe there's a list of them in a game design glossary somewhere

cursive crypt
broken sigil
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Might take a slight break tbh

timber viper
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I know how it feels sad

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My eyes also has almost same values

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left one 0.75 other one was around .25 but probably increased over the time

ancient ingot
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i have Graves Disease in my eyes and astigmatism which really sucks

deep copper
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eye problems are the worst

gusty star
ancient ingot
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nothing in l ife (except your children) should ever be more important than your health

cursive crypt
pure summit
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people have eye diseases
my back: how old r we ?

supple apex
supple apex
ancient ingot
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it's basically a thyroid disorder, either underactive or overactive, also has an eye related component

pure summit
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@deep copper i want my daily hugs

supple apex
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Astigmatism is the one where you have trouble with horizontal vertical line alignment right?

ancient ingot
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yup, it is due to a mis-shaped lens on one or both eyes

supple apex
pure summit
ancient ingot
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bulging eyes, pain at the back of the eyes, swolen eyelids, not nice.

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@pure summit lol maybe later, i have to secure my base in DayZ lol

supple apex
ancient ingot
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yup, itll be sporadic, but as with the thyroid disease itself, you get it for life

deep copper
supple apex
pure summit
deep copper
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it's not convenient to do on a phone anyway

ancient ingot
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😂

supple apex
deep copper
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xD well they aren't wrong

pure summit
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when AU say i am going to fight

supple apex
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Should be an online site somehere where you can play boardgames.

deep copper
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it must be fun going to someone for making the glasses

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well true, they don't generally say anything

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wait how do you end up with a + and - in seperate though

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i can't think of any normal use cases where that might happen

regal pecan
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sleep with one eye open?

deep copper
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that explains, i suppose, genetics is wild

unkempt solar
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yeah, those puny humans are full of bugs....

pure summit
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i am the parent 😭

deep copper
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that sounds like something i may regret googling

supple apex
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Didn't realized bob parr got a mullet 🤔

topaz depot
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AU!

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long time no see

deep copper
deep copper
deep copper
supple apex
deep copper
supple apex
# deep copper ... uhm, yeah ?

You're going to spoil his real identity in public if that's the case 🤔
Bob's a very fitting name for the guy btw, very "born in the 60's" in feel.

topaz depot
deep copper
deep copper
supple apex
deep copper
supple apex
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Rob is technically his name as well, so yeah.
Not sure bout Billy though, Bill maybe, or Matt 🤔

supple apex
zinc matrix
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what?

deep copper
foggy path
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John Cena was so good in Peacemaker

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Really need to watch some of the movies he's in

pure summit
deep copper
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wait did we got whoosed by zenno

foggy path
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He was amazing as Peacemaker lol

supple apex
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Dum... dum dum... dum dum... dum dum...

foggy path
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The stiff kind of out there acting was just right for it lol

pure summit
foggy path
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You probably need to watch something else if you wanted peace 🤔

supple apex
foggy path
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maybe

supple apex
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Haven't really watched any of cena's movies actually, but he does look like he got some chops for awkward comedy.

deep copper
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i thought he was a wrestler

supple apex
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Well, both of those isn't really mutually exclusive, so...

supple apex
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But still, not sure why anybody want to watch somebody that they cannot see 🤔

supple apex
deep copper
supple apex
deep copper
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jk jk

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why peanut ?

supple apex
soft night
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have you watched peacemaker show?

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the John cena was on one talkshow wearing his peacemaker costume

broken sigil
deep copper
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using MJ also counts as work btw

broken sigil
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Honestly might not be a bad idea
Might try turning all of the blue light filter crap as a start

deep copper
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i got headaches recently and mons told me to use the filter as well, i haven't gotten headaches again after i started using them but could be a coincidence too

soft night
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the adobe xD when it was free it was nice now for me too expensive

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well just recently you cant update the app even anymore with out adobe CC subscription active

broken sigil
deep copper
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adobe : reducing chances to earn with regular users since forever

soft night
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nation teams in sports have animal for they team nickname

soft night
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I saw that gif on yesterday after WolfPack the Finnish basketball nicknamed so win in Eurobasket

celest musk
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meeting au

deep copper
zinc matrix
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smoking can cause eye dryness too 🌀

deep copper
celest musk
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idk man

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never had that issue

deep copper
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they said smoking, not coffee

zinc matrix
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and CAN

celest musk
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ik what he said

zinc matrix
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🥫

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is she/her Ben

deep copper
zinc matrix
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jk jk

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i joined a vegan club

deep copper
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what do they do there ?

celest musk
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so no meatings?

zinc matrix
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i do not compatible

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today i woke wondering if i will bonded to birds and other insects as companions

celest musk
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yes

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because birds are vegans too

zinc matrix
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my birds eat only dead insects

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excuse me

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not everyone too

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it is the same mechanic of you blocking me Laura

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😞

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maybe if i live on a sailboat i will make friendship with fish too

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oh !

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i am drying

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no one answer me

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and today is the day of binging on mini golf courses modeling

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looks very alive

celest musk
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isn't that way cooler than fish and birbs?

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does ariel count as fish?

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ah well, she got a fin and scales?

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so probably yes

soft night
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mermaid

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how mermaids are counted

pure summit
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am i dumb or making Pedestrian System as a junior is very hard ?

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
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so i can easy relate

#

as they are probably not judging me too much

pure summit
zinc matrix
#

oh, i misread lol

soft night
#

legs when being on the dry land too long

zinc matrix
#

bad joke went even worse

pure summit
#

🤔

zinc matrix
pure summit
zinc matrix
#

but actually identifying if they will cross the section that the light is, i have no clue

pure summit
#

make multiple splines ?

zinc matrix
#

hmm, there is not a navmesh link on UE?

pure summit
#

for jumping for example

zinc matrix
#

they just connect navmeshes areas, what they do is up to you

#

if set it up, they do not jump, they are just 'teletransported' to the next area

pure summit
cursive crypt
#

omg, the MC from DyingLight2 is one of the most annoying ninny I know as of late

zinc matrix
#

go for Project Zomboid ryobg

#

or better Grow Home!

#

but there is no zombies 😦

cursive crypt
#

Masochist mode, I have a long list of bugs and issues I found

zinc matrix
#

yeah, i feel you, sometimes consuming art is about feeling pain

cursive crypt
#

I wanted kinda more RPG approach

zinc matrix
cursive crypt
#

Tried before that State of Decay 2, that was pleasant surprise

#

nope

zinc matrix
#

besides being top-down

#

it is really neat

#

simulation wise

#

kind of State of Decay

zinc matrix
cursive crypt
#

Yeah, saw some clips

zinc matrix
#

and have multiplayer, if you have buddies

#

they are on the game for a long time now

#

i think the alpha or beta goes back to 2014

pure summit
#

i wish i can understand it but it is very complex for me right now and i did not learn data asset yet (working with unreal for 5 months)

zinc matrix
#

have you ever played Dead Rising?

cursive crypt
#

Wait, that not that voxel game?

deep copper
pure summit
cursive crypt
#

Ah, yeah, ok

#

No, it is another one.

zinc matrix
#

give it a try, is really broad

cursive crypt
#

I kinda wanted to try the latest AA stuff, saw some clips about DL2.

#

Apart from art, disappointed.

#

Seems most games lately just wait artists to do the heavy lifting.

zinc matrix
#

the industry is getting bigger and bigger

#

and that does not translate in better and better, unfortunately

#

i know it is not related, but Sunset Overdrive is kinda zombie like too

#

and feels fun

cursive crypt
#

Frankly, I'm not into Zombies, I just wanted some kind of base building / survival experience. Then I found the State of Decay and followed on.

zinc matrix
#

yeah

#

there is a nerd one, really slow and most fading regarding amount of player

#

but Heaven & Hearth is the most hardcore base building / survival experience i found up today

cursive crypt
#

Gonna look it up

zinc matrix
#

but the graphics are dated

cursive crypt
#

Maybe I had to add into TPS/FPS mode, not so "strategic"

zinc matrix
#

ah

cursive crypt
#

Looks interesting tho

zinc matrix
#

that one i recommend getting together with some people

#

i got 3 friends to play, back when the graphics were worse

#

we played the heck, for 5 days

#

some high players came and destroyed everything

#

and it is permadeath

cursive crypt
#

No time to play much, I'm kinda playing with some research purposes in mind

zinc matrix
#

then Youtube

cursive crypt
#

Well, you can't really go and check out some material work, for example, on a video.

zinc matrix
#

do you mean material like texture stuff?

cursive crypt
#

Nor do some UI, locomotion analysis.

zinc matrix
#

hmmm, there is plenty of videos about UI on Youtube, that are really in 'depth' of the craft

#

and i think good design and user experience is universally translated in any genre

#

now how the locomotion feels, i agree, gameplay is a must

cursive crypt
#

I want practice, not theory. Also, yeah, I'm familiar that there are videos 🙂

zinc matrix
#

at some point i got some videos of Celeste and i was analyzing the flow of players on different slope position

#

playing myself lead to a very different analysis than watching pro players

celest musk
#

xD

zinc matrix
#

they beat the game in 15% of the time i take

celest musk
#

i did 30minutes of weird things checking the IK system in GTA

#

it's pretty good but also not flawless

zinc matrix
#

i got frustrated with Grow Up

#

the game entirely is about IK movements

#

and somehow Ubisoft made it look worse than the indie version, Grow Home

#

walking on slopes felt so weird

topaz depot
topaz depot
#

come meditate with me @deep copper ily

celest musk
#

did ubisoft make a pretty much 1:1 copy of the game?

#

even the player character looks similar?

zinc matrix
#

yeah, but they managed to allow steeper slopes being walkable with the same mechanics of the first game

#

i will not record a video of Bud (the main character) walking on but if you play one day

celest musk
#

did they buy the original?

zinc matrix
#

it is just ridiculous

celest musk
#

or how did that evolve into some kind of ripoff?

cursive crypt
#

Ubi are such a streamlined factory.

zinc matrix
#

but actually, besides that little note, the game is an upgraded version

#

way more things to do

celest musk
#

ok, i see

zinc matrix
#

and more systems to move around

#

really neat

#

i hope they do a 3rd version

#

actually i would be sold on a MMO of it about climbing mountains and finding crystals to collect

#

hehe

#

it is really clean, no UI when playing

soft night
deep glen
#

I wanted to make that comment, but it would be so obvious.

#

I mean, nothing there, so someone prolly farted.

pure summit
#

why not ?

cursive crypt
#

Is it on drive C ?

pure summit
#

+1, i do not understand her concept

celest musk
pure summit
#

so i should sit uncomfortable beacuse of the camera ?

deep copper
pure summit
#

why i attend a show that bright lights in my face, ever heard of personal freedom?

#

so i get abuse for money ?

soft night
#

laura would sit on lap of other guest?

pure summit
#

what kind of third world do u life in ?!!!!

celest musk
#

well, this is theirs

deep copper
pure summit
#

every single day

deep copper
#

sweet !

pure summit
#

"I do avoid gamedev"
me too

deep copper
#

same

deep copper
#

it's burning with, passion

pure summit
#

it is on fire, how is this cute, r u heartless ?

cursive crypt
#

Not sure I have played it even 🤔

pure summit
cursive crypt
#

Not Sonic 1 or 2

#

aa, dang, never got the money for it - back then

#

I got one pack of Sega games, I guess this is other thing.

#

checkin'

cursive crypt
#

They kinda added more games? Thought they were like 5-10.

#

Ah, yeah, there is a Bundle!

celest musk
#

how much are they?

cursive crypt
#

55 euro

#

50 titles

celest musk
#

wtf

#

ok, and how about a single game?

cursive crypt
#

~1 euro

celest musk
#

well, 1 euro seems okay, 5 too much

cursive crypt
#

Aww... Sonic is 5 lol

celest musk
#

so depends on the game

#

still, 5€ is too much 😄

cursive crypt
#

I liked that snow level

cursive crypt
#

Tbh, I played mostly with Tails, because... flying

soft night
#

sonic origins have 1 2 3 and CD

cursive crypt
#

Hmm... there was a remake of Streets of Rage, but not of Golden Axe

deep copper
#

opposite of sega is ages 🤔

#

so it's supposed to be something that does not ages 😮

pure summit
soft night
#

huggable ones perhaps

deep copper
#

seriously why peanut @zinc matrix

fleet tangle
#

It's all about green hill zone, I'm afraid!

deep glen
#

why not?
(because I thought the thing was adorable and the owner told me the chicken doesnt mind)

cursive crypt
#

Just ate risotto with chicken

deep copper
celest musk
#

maybe luos can hook you up with the chicken?

deep copper
#

i wish !

#

that thing does looks very adorable

deep glen
deep copper
#

prove it !

deep glen
#

meet me irl XD

deep copper
#

aye aye !

boreal quarry
#

Does anyone have any advice for getting a group of game devs into a group that can create a successful game that can potentially turn into a studio?

deep copper
celest musk
#

do game jams with randoms, and figure out who fits you

boreal quarry
boreal quarry
proud jay
#

definitely game jams is a good idea

#

go through a "full cycle" in quick time

#

you'll learn a lot about other people's workings

#

and if a game you make is fun you can expand on it as your studio

boreal quarry
#

Full cycle?

celest musk
#

well, it's not perfect, but i think your success rate might be higher than relying on their resumee

deep copper
#

i think

boreal quarry
#

Oh.

celest musk
#

planning => dev => deadlines

#

i'm useless, i can't meet deadlines for example 😄

boreal quarry
#

Ah got it, so make a really small and simple game, then remove the dead weight?

celest musk
#

and i'm perfectionist, which is a pita as gamedev, too

deep copper
#

you can definitely figure out workflow and cooperation with them , and see if you both cover your weaknesses well

celest musk
#

well, not sure if i would count anyone as dead weight, unless they contribute nothing or tear down the team

deep copper
#

i would consider them dead weight if your cooperation and working styles are different

#

they are dead weight to you

celest musk
#

even if some don't contribute much, but what they do is good, you can still take them into account

#

some might do it next to their full time job, so don't expect 100% from everyone

boreal quarry
#

Yes most certainly, so take into account quality, skills, and how they work.

deep copper
#

yup, you can always figure out and work things out with more time, if they have potential

boreal quarry
#

Yes.

#

Thank you very much for your advice.

deep copper
#

but still, do ask in #industry-chat if you want more advice from a different set of people

celest musk
#

idk if you can really expect advice from successful people from the industries there

#

end of day, anyone can post their opinion there 😄

#

even AU

deep copper
#

i don't go there

zinc matrix
#

make your people work for 5 hours daily

boreal quarry
#

Now I am confused, do I go there or not?

deep copper
#

and it's better to ask people in the industry, we could have missed something vital

zinc matrix
boreal quarry
zinc matrix
#

unfortunately

#

ah ok, but when you reach the company park

#

making people go creative for 8 hours a day is just pointless

boreal quarry
#

Well I don't see that happening.

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

they go into discord to distract themselves or even worse, hacker.news read

boreal quarry
#

Oh, that could be a pain.

zinc matrix
#

cringe is a way of living

boreal quarry
#

True.

celest musk
zinc matrix
#

first because of the challenge of doing it by itself

celest musk
#

i really doubt that anyone can do 5x5h / week creative work

#

unless they are lucky to be in the flow

zinc matrix
#

secondly for one being working for a company that they may not believe completely

celest musk
#

and you can provide them the necessary work environment

deep copper
#

if they are motivated/ have deadline, they are forced to work, but the quality does dwindle i think

zinc matrix
#

working focused 100% 8 hours per day is a huge task

deep copper
#

oh my, ben poked me

zinc matrix
#

this type of practice is still rooted on industrial revolution

#

there is plenty of data on papers about people barely sustaining a efficient work over 2-3 hours per day

#

specially creative people

#

of course, physical job the limit is higher

celest musk
#

see, my fricking neighbor is sawing for half of the day in his garden now

zinc matrix
#

and there is exceptions to this general conclusion

celest musk
#

how would i be supposed to work with that fricking noise?

zinc matrix
#

turn on the speakerbox

celest musk
#

because that ahole can't do it in his house/garage without pissing off everyone around here

deep copper
#

work environment always changes limits 😅

zinc matrix
#

draw a sword and establish a limit

proud jay
#

also depends on the day though

deep copper
#

give them a kiss each time they do, they will stop because of different reasons in the end

proud jay
#

sometimes I have days where I'm productive for 6 hours, sometimes I have days where I'm productive for maybe 6 minutes

zinc matrix
#

exactly

#

and maybe easing how much time you need to sit and fake you are working improve your productivity

celest musk
#

i got days where i do 12h+

#

and days where i do nothing

deep copper
#

everyone is on the same page here

celest musk
#

now find some stubborn idiot which hires people like that

zinc matrix
#

only hugs

celest musk
#

with their 9-5 hive mind

zinc matrix
#

i hope i can do it

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

5 hours per day, 5 days or 4 per week

#

non-profit

#

LETs GO

#

dreams

zinc matrix
deep copper
#

that's shocking,
but I don't mind some electricity on me

zinc matrix
#

sure i will do some DIY electrical gun when we met

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

nope

#

i was thinking in 5 or 8 1840 batteries

#

actually is not 1840

deep copper
#

what's a 1840 battery ?

zinc matrix
#

but some number

celest musk
#

a capacitor can change your mind...

#

i once got 400V from a little one which was supposed as buffer for a camera flash light

celest musk
#

boy...

zinc matrix
#

ok

#

18650

#

5 or 8 of these

#

with a tip running currency

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

NASA is buying risc-v computers!

zinc matrix
#

i love this photo

deep copper
deep copper
zinc matrix
#

seriously, it is so pointless to diverse players in any business

zinc matrix
#

i may use this in my favour

#

they are using them, not buying looks like

#

well planning to use

#

million deal

#

fixed-price

#

i sincerely do not care actually

#

fuck humans trying to live on space or whatever in the 21st century

#

there is my video-game to develop and a lot of children to treat from basic diseases

#

as well, convincing people to eat more corn and not chickens

#

i had the unlucky day of reading about some people planning to feed livestock with insects

#

just one more layer on the food chain

#

grains -> insects -> livestock

#

OH! CRINGEEEEEEE

deep copper
#

we should directly eat the grains !

zinc matrix
#

yeah and this frog is bad

#

this one certainly is not a player on Amazon forest

deep copper
#

now both are strongwr

celest musk
#

so a broken arm makes you stronger?

soft night
#

what dont kill you make you stronger

deep copper
#

you are stronger !!!

celest musk
#

i don't know if that logic works out so well...

soft night
#

or you make the around it stronger too so all support structure is stronger the weak points getting stronger so your weakness is stronger

deep copper
deep copper
deep copper
#

from the aspect of survival ofc,

celest musk
deep copper
#

you know what you must not do to break the other arm or other body parts now, those who haven't broken theirs, won't know about it, was what i meant

#

what's up with the peanuts !

celest musk
#

do i get stronger by breaking more than one bone?

proud jay
deep copper
deep copper
# celest musk do i get stronger by breaking more than one bone?

imagine you are facing a boss in the boss room, if it didn't kill you, you get stronger for facing it the next time, as you know its patterns now. the others who haven't faced it, are weaker against the boss compared to theirselves which has faced the boss and not died

celest musk
#

whats with those who face the boss and kill it first try?

deep copper
proud jay
#

so what doesn't kill you makes you stronger

#

but also, what kills you makes you stronger

celest musk
#

do you think they sometimes play with the boss?

#

because they know they gonna beat him?

proud jay
#

basically, everything makes you stronger?

deep copper
#

if it killed you aren't stronger, you are dead

proud jay
#

but you resurrect stronger

deep copper
#

it shouldn't kill you, is the thing, it could, but couldn't

proud jay
#

since you learned from the death

fleet tangle
#

Some people become stronger than you can possibly imagine when dead.

celest musk
#

i had to read it 3 times

#

and it still is nonsense

deep copper
celest musk
#

some people got "stronger" by the dead of specific persons

fleet tangle
#

It was a star wars reference.

celest musk
#

or rather, their weakness isn't that endangered anymore

deep copper
celest musk
#

that's just an assumption

deep copper
fleet tangle
#

Maybe it's subconscious.

celest musk
#

maybe your subconsciousness...

deep copper
#

might be, but again, I can't confirm that 😦

celest musk
#

yea i was busy looking that word up in the dictionary 😄

lofty lark
#

It makes since that death makes you stronger - what weaknesses are left after death? No weakness. Therefore you have become stronger.

celest musk
#

what a word man

fleet tangle
#

The weakness of not being alive.

#

Pretty big weakness.

lofty lark
#

Is it though? You can't be hurt while unalive, can you?

deep copper
fleet tangle
#

Clearly you've never seen a vampire or zombie film.

deep copper
#

i was just teasing ben, didn't know this would get weirdly philosophical and movical

celest musk
lofty lark
deep copper
#

no your meat smells

#

no one wants to hug you

celest musk
#

so im a zombie, interesting...

deep copper
#

i want to hug you though

lofty lark
celest musk
deep copper
#

hugging just one person when you can't even feel any of the touch is weakness enough

celest musk
#

zombies dont feel the hugs?

deep copper
#

the nerves are dead yeah?

celest musk
#

hmmm, sounds fair

lofty lark
#

Then how do they move if the nerves are dead

deep copper
#

no pulse, no touch

celest musk
#

also fair

deep copper
#

spiritual energy i dunno

celest musk
#

how do they move AU, tell us

deep copper
#

i never met a zombie, ask one

celest musk
#

also i'm kinda sure they react to getting shoot at

#

they dont experience pain tho

deep copper
#

you are typing funky today, maybe you are a zombie

celest musk
#

maybe their nerves are just kinda numb?

deep copper
#

their taste and smell buds might be alive though, they can move towards humans and sniff brains

lofty lark
#

Maybe? They often still have the ability to see and hear, so why would their sense of touch begone only?

#

They can taste too

deep copper
#

because rotten flesh i dunno

#

if they are immune to pain, they are immune to touch

celest musk
#

no

#

maybe to your touches

deep copper
#

actually maybe not, i recall a person immune to pain

celest musk
#

because they equal pain?

lofty lark
#

But eyes, ears, tongue, nose, can't function without functional tissue

deep copper
lofty lark
#

People with the no-pain disorder still have a sense of touch

deep copper
#

so you are saying they can feel their flesh hanging and swinging in the wind

lofty lark
deep copper
#

if only they didn't eat brains, people would give them good hugs

lofty lark
#

Like if you're finger is hanging on by the skin, you aren't going to have a sense of touch on the tip of it afaik since the nerves are severed

deep copper
#

i think people do feel the touch at times due to some psychological phenomenons, but yeah, nerve wise they shouldn't

lofty lark
deep copper
#

i wanna live

#

a one time zombie hug sounds like a loss

#

also the sounds they make aren't the best either

pure summit
#

how old r u guys 13 ?

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

strong vibe ppl are the worse

deep copper
#

what's a strong vibe person?

zinc matrix
#

the ones who think everything makes them stronger

left granite
pure summit
deep copper
#

they aren't wrong, but different stuff increases the rate of strength gain differently

zinc matrix
pure summit
deep copper
#

😐

#

next version

zinc matrix
deep copper
#

🦬

#

next version

pure summit
zinc matrix
#

🚶‍♂️

#

this is the last version

pure summit
#

🤔

zinc matrix
#

🧜‍♀️

#

or this one

deep copper
#

⚰️

zinc matrix
#

but actually if you stop to think

#

au is really dark behind this cute anime pfp

#

"i need a masochist"

deep copper
#

i just hug, hugs are blue here 🫂

zinc matrix
#

"you can cut me with a knife, if you want"

#

"can i eat you?"

#

"hit me"

#

🖤

deep copper
#

i mean, as long as i can interact with the person, it's lovely enough

zinc matrix
#

the worst so far

#

"i love you"

deep copper
#

don't worry, i won't do weird things irl

zinc matrix
#

jk jk

deep copper
proud jay
#

you already did

zinc matrix
#

nope

deep copper
#

i did what ?!

zinc matrix
#

Discord is virtual life

#

translate roughly in who you are irl

lofty lark
#

Dieter just dropping an accusation like that then disappearing kek

deep copper
#

dieter always does that 😭

zinc matrix
#

he is so cool actually

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

cool -> 3. (color) inducing the impression of coolness; used especially of greens and blues and violets

deep copper
#

he was also grape colored once

zinc matrix
#

we should get on his hearth and make him chat hot stuff

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
deep copper
#

oh yeah, brother cult vanished

deep copper
zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
#

return to pascal au

deep copper
#

Pascal?

zinc matrix
#

actually is camel your original name

deep copper
#

return to original you mean ?

#

@zinc matrix 😐

zinc matrix
#

only one minute. not bad.

deep copper
#

i have returned to original

zinc matrix
#

look, i have power to edit your messages

deep copper
#

it's still the same for me ....

#

yeah discord app update was terrible

zinc matrix
#

now i do not even have to feel guilty for your behaviour here

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

i was treating you as my child

#

to zero the wish

deep copper
#

zero the wish ?

zinc matrix
#

yeah, vanish it completely

deep copper
#

hmmm, it was kinda nice tbh

#

i could feel your fragments in me

zinc matrix
#

actually i like you

#

anyway

slim atlas
#

HAHA YOU GOT SCAMMED?!
Dont worry, we got you, Scamhelp NFT! Mint Now!

zinc matrix
#

but not so much

#

you know, i still have to keep the eremit lifestyle

deep copper
#

it's okay ! ❤️

#

i understand 🫂

zinc matrix
#

hermit*

slim atlas
#

!8ball do we?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@slim atlas, :8ball: Cannot predict now.

slim atlas
#

!8ball be serious

turbid spindleBOT
#

@slim atlas, :8ball: Ask again later.

slim atlas
#

!8ball no you

turbid spindleBOT
#

@slim atlas, :8ball: Don't count on it.

deep copper
#

manny is good at this

slim atlas
#

he specificly hates me

zinc matrix
#

me too

deep copper
#

!8ball love owl

turbid spindleBOT
#

@deep copper, :8ball: Cannot predict now.

deep copper
#

!8ball love me

turbid spindleBOT
#

@deep copper, :8ball: Very doubtful.

deep copper
#

!8ball love luqtas

turbid spindleBOT
#

@deep copper, :8ball: Signs point to yes.

zinc matrix
#

!8ball continue to love me

turbid spindleBOT
#

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Don't count on it.

zinc matrix
#

thanks

deep copper
#

xD

#

!8ball love Vazumongr

turbid spindleBOT
#

@deep copper, :8ball: Outlook not so good.

deep copper
#

!8ball love dieter