bm's tastes are like those, dark people, emo ? what were they called, metal ?
#lounge
deep copper
timber viper
crying shadows and roaming around with (ban) hammer
supple apex
Blue man avatar looks fitting for a titan face.
broken sigil
Crying shadow sounds like a cool user name lol
timber viper
also a nice game name
broken sigil
Lol
deep copper
if you keep that as a name, whenever your "... is typing" shows up before ban, that would be-
timber viper
gothic
deep copper
crying shadow sounds cooler tbh, suits the pfp
deep copper
well not like there's anything blue about blue man anyway 🤔
broken sigil
bm's tastes are like those, dark people, emo ? what were they called, metal ?
Eh I'm definitely not emo but I usually wear all black and like dark stuff lol
timber viper
well not like there's anything blue about blue man anyway 🤔
yeah very decisive
deep copper
so a closet emo
timber viper
his name is orange, pfp is black, mood is dark, but name is blue
deep copper
his car is also orange
timber viper
hmm
broken sigil
I do like gothic stuff
timber viper
I do like wearing dark too but I'd prefer to be a blonde and wear colorful things
supple apex
his car is also orange
How did you know that? 🤔
broken sigil
his car is also orange
Wait.... Did a share that fact before lol
timber viper
did you 
broken sigil
supple apex
The mystery deepens...
deep copper
Wait.... Did a share that fact before lol
yeah!
proud jay
finally AU's notes have purpose
deep copper
How did you know that? 🤔
he told us all, i have that in his notes
deep copper
that's what xero told befre
supple apex
What a misleading teehee looking avatar.
timber viper
!8ball are ai generated people real
turbid spindleBOT
@timber viper, :8ball: As I see it, yes.
deep copper
What a misleading teehee looking avatar.
hey if I don't add notes and forget details, you would hate me more !
deep copper
Oh I actually did say it, I can now stop sweating profusely
yes !!!!
timber viper
hey if I don't add notes and forget details, you would hate me more !
what do you have in my notes
deep copper
what do you have in my notes
hmm, the odd thing i have noted about you is low on vit D , the other stuff looks normal
supple apex
what do you have in my notes
Eren's a vampire? 😐
timber viper
hmm, the odd thing i have noted about you is low on vit D , the other stuff look...
you really take notes arent you 
broken sigil
That did happen, thought it was kinda cool lol
timber viper
Eren's a vampire? 😐
yesnt
deep copper
Eren's a vampire? 😐
if their current pic matches 3.5 year pic, yes
deep copper
you really take notes arent you <:blobsweat:588766584731074571>
i don't take anymore, i only take notes when someone is new to me
proud jay
the BM pic now kinda looks like crying James Charles though lol
supple apex
So what note did you take on yourself AU?
deep copper
So what note did you take on yourself AU?
it's some weird hex number i think or something idk what's it for
should've added more details
proud jay
indeed busted
timber viper
2nd one looks so real
proud jay
it's a product code for a HP Pavilion 27-Q202in TouchSmart All-in-One Desktop
supple apex
What a young looking sharapova 🤔
Or is that kournikova, forgot, always mix the two.
deep copper
hmmm
timber viper
AU works for hp
deep copper
no I don't have that even lol
proud jay
`Z8G47AA#ACJ`
supple apex
`Z8G47AA#ACJ`
That's not hex, got a Z there.
broken sigil
You................
I was in the process of typing "how do you know"
supple apex
!8ball is AU an HP printer?
turbid spindleBOT
@supple apex, :8ball: Without a doubt.
supple apex
There you go, manny solved the whole mystery.
timber viper
!8ball did you just lie?
turbid spindleBOT
@timber viper, :8ball: Ask again later.
timber viper
!8ball did you just lie?
turbid spindleBOT
@timber viper, :8ball: Most likely.
proud jay
guess we only have the entire croatian population to sift through
we'll find you soon enough
timber viper
I thought BM was American
supple apex
Thought bm was somewhere on finland or denmark.
proud jay
wait, is BM younger than me
timber viper
he is
broken sigil
wait, is BM younger than me
Probably
deep copper
as per the year of births
proud jay
well he said he was 16 on a blog post about his thing releasing in 2017
broken sigil
I'm 22
proud jay
shit, now I'm old
timber viper
1 year older than me 
supple apex
Thought AU was the stalker, didn't realize dieter collect notes as well.
proud jay
not notes, google
deep copper
Dieter has sources from outside discord
i live in discord
different styles of stalking
well I don't stalk though, if it was already told to 70k people on a server, it's public info
timber viper
shit, now I'm old
dont worry, you are still younger than kaos, gb and xero
zinc matrix
shit, now I'm old
you can bet
zinc matrix
hmm, there is a 5.1 branch now?
timber viper
hmm, there is a 5.1 branch now?
ue5-main is "counted as" 5.1
zinc matrix
proud jay
lol nice review
timber viper
nani
proud jay
why is there a magazine for stoned gamers lol
supple apex
Think somebody asked about where to download 5.1 in one of the general channels, forgot which one.
broken sigil
lol nice review
Wait I've never seen that one lol
zinc matrix
someone can give me a short explanation of Twitter nowadays?
i remember using with friends back in 2010
i thought in setting a dev. log there but i think a blog is better?
main kernel
blog way better imo
proud jay
Wait I've never seen that one lol
main kernel
twitter is basically:
- say something
- someone gets offended for no reason
- you get canceled
proud jay
someone can give me a short explanation of Twitter nowadays?
have you ever seen a toilet?
main kernel
- the idea of being logged in to view tweets and all that, as a non-twitter user i find that annoying
a blog would be much more convenient to follow + easier to SEO
zinc matrix
+ the idea of being logged in to view tweets and all that, as a non-twitter user...
yeah, that was what turned me off from the idea
zinc matrix
have you ever seen a toilet?
what do you mean
main kernel
maybe use twitter to promote it or something but I would like it to be separate personally
proud jay
twitter is a shithole
main kernel
what do you mean
twitter = toilet
zinc matrix
ok so how about humans having to pee and poo?
i remember we used to throw shit over the windows at some point in history
zinc matrix
hehehe
so no more Twitter
interesting, most of the stuff i could see following # of gamedev i could find on Discord or Reddit 😄
literally the same post
main kernel
o.o
broken sigil
it's in here <https://merryjane.com/culture/super-high-score-indie-game-mix-torr...
I'm gonna frame that review on my wall lol
It's funny how many job offers I got just from people seeing that project
I wish I had time to work on it again
zinc matrix
not that i am marketing expert, but cross server posts of the same content just turn people off, i think
soft night
mail where all mail have went
main kernel
you need to market to customers in both servers/subreddits
zinc matrix
mail where all mail have went
main kernel
customizing each is a hassle (unless each part has a specific niche)
zinc matrix
customizing each is a hassle (unless each part has a specific niche)
yeah but changing the camera view or angle is not that difficult
video-games are living things
main kernel
true but that could also be someone's first viewing
main kernel
there are limited good angles
proud jay
https://tenor.com/view/dc-doctor-doctor-manhattan-stars-gif-14497656
leaked picture of blue man
soft night
Mr Manhattan
zinc matrix
i was high af
main kernel
also, in this case we are talking about 2 servers, but those folks usually post to 50+ social media as well
soft night
!8ball is Blue Man the Mr Manhattan?
turbid spindleBOT
@soft night, :8ball: Cannot predict now.
zinc matrix
also, in this case we are talking about 2 servers, but those folks usually post ...
yeah but feel the difference
main kernel
customization is annoying to say the least unless they have a team just for PR and media
zinc matrix
same creation, different posts
main kernel
yeah but that's two
zinc matrix
i would like to see same stuff over the servers with a little modifier
broken sigil
https://tenor.com/view/dc-doctor-doctor-manhattan-stars-gif-14497656
Crap, they are onto me
main kernel
also different vibes
main kernel
example: this is a monkey
main kernel
This is a monkey that is deep in thought about something
main kernel
my point is: the angle tells a story as well
zinc matrix
i just changed the camera angle
main kernel
i know
zinc matrix
people do not even do that
main kernel
suzanne is still suzanne
zinc matrix
sometimes they cross post twitter videos, which do not load on discord
zinc matrix
but that usually come from indies without much budget
main kernel
take a look at this: same person
yet each has a mood
difference in camera angle as well
main kernel
here is a better one
compare eye-level to worm's eye
worm's eye looks like a bully while eye-level looks like a good boy
High looks like some sort of scheming mischievous person
zinc matrix
at least is new perspectives of the same source
main kernel
yes but ruins the mood of the shot
If I want people to think "cute" when they look at this character, I can only use few angles at most
but that also needs to be coordinated with the environment and whatnot
yeah non of them scream cute, I was just making a point
my point being: changing angle is easy, but keeping the same mood/vibes/whatever is not as easy
zinc matrix
but that is just one thing developers could do between cross-post in servers
you can show different places of the game
and look what i found on Suzanne eyes
meshes are overlapping!
zinc matrix
I'm gonna frame that review on my wall lol
It's funny how many job offers I got...
(return)
now that i updated my pfp i am not cringe and weird anymore
::grin
deep copper
now that i updated my *pfp* i am not cringe and weird anymore
you have gained more hug points
soft night
zinc matrix
i had a VHS of Pooh
foggy path
Have you seen the trailer for the new Pooh movie
zinc matrix
i still remember the tiger performance of a super-jump during the avalanche episode
zinc matrix
Have you seen the trailer for the new Pooh movie
3D?
3D remakes of 2D animations always turn me off
foggy path
Oh you haven't, you're in for a treat
zinc matrix
but i am not watching probably
foggy path
(warning it's very different from the original)
supple apex
(warning it's *very* different from the original)
Your username is technically my response seeing that pooh link.
foggy path
lol
foggy path
don't think so
soft night
the Big brother house in finland what new season started have clowns on the wall
proud jay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3E74j_xFtg
wait is this legit lol?
foggy path
Yes it's an actual movie that's coming out lol
soft night
foggy path
haha
yeah I saw that picture of it but wasn't sure what you were referring to by "that show"
timber viper
Rick and Morty new episode was lit
foggy path
Rick and Meh 🥱
proud jay
there's new season?
timber viper
yes
soft night
yes
foggy path
There's some new game coming from the Rick and Morty guy
foggy path
which looks visually impressive but that's about it for me at least, the characters seem to be basically the same annoying types you get in R&M even though the game has nothing to do with it
proud jay
oh with the strange guns something right
Trover saves the universe was pretty cool though
I still have to replay it in vr some day
foggy path
someone said the guy can only do like three different voices
and yeah the talking gun in the game is like.. yeah okay it sounds like Morty
lol
Did they fix the issue in UE5 where sometimes the scrollbar doesn't appear unless you resize the panel/window? :P
It's been around since 4.26 I think and never got fixed in 4..
zinc matrix
https://tenor.com/view/solar-opposites-korvo-terry-tervo-korvox-terry-gif-231789...
pinball O.O
deep copper
5.1 was supposed to have cool features right
fluid bloom
it doesn't?
pure summit
5.1 *was* supposed to have cool features right
waiting 6.1 release 😍 👉 👈
deep copper
it doesn't?
i have no idea !
fluid bloom
i have no idea !
pure summit
i have no idea !
sometimes i feel like u r gone and you do not know where r u
deep copper
https://portal.productboard.com/epicgames/1-unreal-engine-public-roadmap/tabs/80...
everything feels better ❤️
deep copper
sometimes i feel like u r gone and you do not know where r u
we are all lost anya 😭
pure summit
we are all lost anya 😭
is this a smart panda ? 🤯
nah big hand for a human🤔
no red pandas are going to invade us
pure summit
https://tenor.com/view/grilling-bbq-party-ribs-grill-master-gif-12237920
Pandas are invading us
rwxtom:
proud jay
https://tenor.com/view/grilling-bbq-party-ribs-grill-master-gif-12237920
is that red panda meat?
zinc matrix
hey, its either me or them. im not gonna enjoy it.
trail wedge
https://tenor.com/view/anya-spy-x-family-apologize-anya-apologize-waifu-filter-f...
less than 1 month till more Spy x Family
deep copper
... isn't it great, i can binge watch more together right from the start now 🥲
pure summit
https://tenor.com/view/forger-family-dancing-spy-x-family-spy-family-forger-danc...
we will stream it at #vc-unreal-hangout
timber viper
less than 1 month till more `Spy x Family`
🥳
trail wedge
... isn't it great, i can binge watch more together right from the start now 🥲
I watched it all in 2-3 days a few weeks back... you don't have enough to last you all month in binge mode
trail wedge
depends on the episode
soft night
and 5.1 is like
pure summit
i will make 7 accounts and stream it at each voice chat 
deep copper
I watched it all in 2-3 days a few weeks back... you don't have enough to last y...
i can watch the same thing forever if you will accompany me 🫂
timber viper
@trail wedge did you watch kaguya?
trail wedge
<@251051260738797569> did you watch kaguya?
I've only seen clips, planning to watch
timber viper
nice, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy
trail wedge
nice, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy
yeh I think so too
I think next on my backlog is FMA:B
trail wedge
I think next on my backlog is FMA:B
watched FMA back in the day and read some of the manga already
timber viper
I think next on my backlog is FMA:B
that's on my backlog too
looks like it's almost everyones favorite anime
I watched it when I was going to middle school
a few eps
trail wedge
my fave is Evangelion and 2nd is Attack on Titan.... 3rd is where things start being hard to choose
timber viper
https://tenor.com/view/anya-anya-forger-anya-spy-x-family-anime-sus-gif-25541203
Why I dont remember this scene from the anime 
timber viper
my fave is Evangelion and 2nd is Attack on Titan.... 3rd is where things start b...
You look like you are not into drama much 😄
true btw
trail wedge
Why I dont remember this scene from the anime <a:ThonkRotate:498001416372355083>
it was the 1st episode when Anya was hiding from Loid after he adopted her
timber viper
ah, lol
timber viper
my fave is Evangelion and 2nd is Attack on Titan.... 3rd is where things start b...
1- Re:Zero 2- Ranking of Kings 3- Code Geass
trail wedge
You look like you are not into drama much 😄
...what? those 2 shows I listed as my favorites are mostly drama with breaks for action
timber viper
I didnt watch them but as far as I remember "action" was more appealing
on both of them
trail wedge
I didnt watch them but as far as I remember "action" was more appealing
the action is only appealing if you don't know how to consume deeper media
I like DBZ too but it's just comedy and action... no message
timber viper
Btw Evangelion gives some Code Geass vibes
trail wedge
Btw Evangelion gives some Code Geass vibes
backwards
Evangelion is the show Cod Geass, Darling in the Franxx, etc were copying parts of
but the giant robo stuff is just window dressing
deep copper
Why I dont remember this scene from the anime <a:ThonkRotate:498001416372355083>
your memory 😔
timber viper
hmm
trail wedge
those are just tropes it uses
zinc matrix
timber viper
Evangelion is now on my backlog too
proud jay
na, it's about extravehicular activity
deep copper
Eva is Evasion !
timber viper
na, it's about extravehicular activity
trail wedge
I take it all back Eva is about Shinji not getting it the damn robot
timber viper
https://tenor.com/view/vsauce-michael-or-is-it-gif-19808095
I discovered most of Dieter's messages are eligible to post this as response
pure summit
Why I dont remember this scene from the anime <a:ThonkRotate:498001416372355083>
she did not want to study so he told her to stay at home and she kept following him
proud jay
I discovered most of Dieter's messages are eligible to post this as response
or are they?
pure summit
she did not want to study so he told her to stay at home and she kept following ...
such a cute anya
pearl sapphire
pure summit
sound like #pain_in_the_a**
proud jay
wtf is this
timber viper
which language is this
deep copper
feels like c++ and ue to me
trail wedge
I didnt watch them but as far as I remember "action" was more appealing
would an "action" show hold on a still frame for a solid minute?
timber viper
feels like c++ and ue to me
feels like C# but not English
pearl sapphire
which language is this
latin++
deep copper
would an "action" show hold on a still frame for a solid minute?
saving budget for action scenes ?
timber viper
would an "action" show hold on a still frame for a solid minute?
I'm already convinced it's a solid one
trail wedge
you didn't want a big blob
zinc matrix
wow not even a breath motion!
soft night
timber viper
real 5.1 is going to be 5.2 i guess
trail wedge
it looks like an oil spill happened here and you just showed us "after" and "before"
deep copper
wow not even a breath motion!
we should provide them with references! let's breathe !!!!
zinc matrix
https://tenor.com/view/collecting-anime-sample-gif-14654463
capturing AU
trail wedge
Eathbound makes you wait behind a waterfall for 3 actual minutes without touching the controller
zinc matrix
ah 😐
trail wedge
didn't end in a slap... dissapointed
deep copper
Eathbound makes you wait behind a waterfall for 3 actual minutes without touchin...
can i be the controller for 3 minutes then ?
zinc matrix
books hold plenty of information and does not have any animation
zinc matrix
Eathbound makes you wait behind a waterfall for 3 actual minutes without touchin...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSjCnk5ViTE here, a great video about the series
trail wedge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSjCnk5ViTE here, a great video about the series
I got it when it was new, I'm already a mega fan of EB
zinc matrix
i discovered only after entering the new zone of no-violence
😐 i guess i will never play it
at least this guy is nice explaining things
trail wedge
I learned about it from Nintendo Power and asked for it for Christmas when I was a kid
didn't learn it was rare until years later
zinc matrix
didn't learn it was rare until years later
what do you mean by rare?
zinc matrix
hmm
trail wedge
zinc matrix
is not all antique games rare now?
trail wedge
is not all antique games rare now?
no
Duck Hunt is still worthless
EarthBound didn't sell well in the US so there aren't many carts
part of the reason was it came in a book-sized box that had the game and the player's guide and a bunch of game stores didn't want to give it shelf space
also the marketing campaign for it in the US sucked
zinc matrix
O.O
game boxes with well made manuals are so neat
not these collection editor versions of nowadays
with action figures and stuff
trail wedge
for comparison
trail wedge
for comparison
see even Zelda complete in box is a little over half of the Earthbound cart only
trail wedge
such a shame such things disappeared
StarCraft 2 had a nice story summary voice over during install
so they come back from time to time
trail wedge
true
zinc matrix
and actually i ranted about collection editions of nowadays but it is long gone i do not buy a physical copy
the GTA V common Xbox 360 box was neat with the map as a poster
and maybe game manuals now are 100% translated into gameplay, mostly
trail wedge
and maybe game manuals now are 100% translated into gameplay, mostly
most games still need to learn from MegaManX for SNES in this capactity
best non-tutorial tutorial level
zinc matrix
is not that game super hard?
trail wedge
nah it's pretty easy tbh
zinc matrix
i hate having to get by heart what i should do because of micro-timing
i love Celeste but after the crystal cave i just dumped it
trail wedge
MegaMan is more about playing rock-paper-scissors with boss powers
you can choose not to do that and make it harder though
the power a boss is weak to does like 10x damage
foggy path
Interstate 82 installer had an obscure Devo track on it that wasn't even released on any of their albums
trail wedge
yeh that's another rare one
I didn't get it back then, but I played Maniac Mansion (I have it for the NES)
zinc matrix
I didn't get it back then, but I played Maniac Mansion (I have it for the NES)
are they violent no?
this channel has a mini-golf HTML Unity tutorial too
trail wedge
are they violent no?
no on screen violence but you can microwave a hamster (optional)
zinc matrix
no on screen violence but you can microwave a hamster (optional)
oh, so they are on my list of non-violent games now
i swear both had graphical violence
trail wedge
zinc matrix
i had a hamster 😐
trail wedge
they had to make it past old school Nintendo censors
zinc matrix
it used to escape from the cage and take all its food and shelter stuff to under the fridge
trail wedge
there were some small changes from the PC versions
zinc matrix
oh yes, exploding a hamster on the microwave is really sick
children can play these games
trail wedge
oh yes, exploding a hamster on the microwave is really sick
yeh but you don't see it and you get killed for it
zinc matrix
imagine they understand they can explode eggs and stuff...
trail wedge
and you don't see getting killed either
zinc matrix
still
trail wedge
but I agree don't hurt animals
zinc matrix
feels a way more approachable act than having a gun and killing people
trail wedge
especially pets
deep copper
you guys explode hamsters 😐
deep copper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oE8PhNMjqM
oh okay
trail wedge
No bombs... just a microwave
deep copper
you are the bomb 🫂
zinc matrix
you can add a bomb on the microwave for a greater effect
everything i should do now is to open Blender and model
everything i want to do is not to do it
how do i cope
deep copper
just do it ✅ remove distractions!!! kiss me
zinc matrix
she is beautiful
deep copper
if i did i would have enough surface area to hug myself 🫂
deep copper
jk jk yes
zinc matrix
i heard cpp ppl are high profile lean humans on top of their games
UE coders have one of the best solutions to garbage collection
deep copper
i heard the latter part as well
zinc matrix
when Epic will introduce a built-in DAW in their Metasound stuff?
deep copper
probably not all the far off imo
deep copper
i think we should expect hobby projects or plugins for that sometime sooner
zinc matrix
yep
i hope someone copy SuperCollider or Csound type of syntax to compose music
if one is using code
deep copper
you said it was in unity, so i expect people to try getting it in ue as well sometime
zinc matrix
it is a plugin
can be copied on UE too
but Metasound is native, has way more potential i guess
deep copper
that sounds like it's nearly there then
zinc matrix
there is a person on Cabbage forums i think, that made a start on UE4
deep copper
so it's practically already here for real i guess
deep copper
i see i see 🤔
deep copper
oh yeah
deep copper
goodluck ?
zinc matrix
yeah, that was the start of every healthy match on League of Legends back in season 1 or 2
deep copper
League of Legends
that does not sound very healthy 😅
deep copper
it has a toxic playerbase i heard
but many people use it to relieve stress now, by letting it all out there
zinc matrix
consuming violent media has a high correlation on being less prosocial and empath
the hole goes deeper
i was reading some forums opinions on competition under Apple practices
and they all were: we need like, 20 more competitors on online app stores
it was a scandal of Apple banning developers without justification
why not have better politics regarding that?
competition is just a motif for growth because we are partially blind
cooperation will always win
deep copper
that sounds kinda cruel, they banned devs to maintain around 20 competetors?
zinc matrix
that sounds kinda cruel, they banned devs to maintain around 20 competetors?
they were trying to point that we need more competitors for this type of abuse do not screw people
some have all their life on just a single store
deep copper
cooperation will always win
i hope this becomes the major driving factor someday
yeah it's true that it's very risky
zinc matrix
plus i really doubt one can not re-negotiate with them in case some dumb error was made
deep copper
one single rule change wipes out loads of people's bread and butter
zinc matrix
that is why we need to invest in laws
gusty star
Idk if you had profit-seeking entities focused only on cooperation I bet you'd have a lot of corruption. Greed has a pernicious influence on peoples minds, and trust can easily be mis-used.
deep copper
plus i really doubt one can not re-negotiate with them in case some dumb error w...
i hope they do listen if people try it
zinc matrix
instead of minor companies doing the good
gusty star
like charities aren't free of corruption ya know?
zinc matrix
everyone with too much power ends screwing someone without noticing
gusty star
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
deep copper
! cloud
gusty star
We find that having power over more followers decreased leaders' principled moral reasoning, whereas having higher power to enforce one's will enabled leaders to engage in self-interested behavior. We also find suggestive evidence that power over increases self-interested behavior by decreasing principled moral reasoning; the effect of power to was not mediated by moral reasoning. These results illustrate that power activates self-interest within and outside the context in which power is held. They also show that moral reasoning is not a stable cognitive process, but that it might represent an additional path via which power affects self-interested behavior.
also the idea isn't mine, that quote about power is from a british parliamentarian, Lord Acton.
deep copper
kinda neat i guess
gusty star
ye
I mean Buddha kinda emphasized giving away all your possessions and shiet, so on the flip side its not totally unknown, as maybe he was just trying to rid himself of like the corrupting influence of power right (in the context of this whole "quest for enlightenment", no comment)?
cuz the whole story about buddha is that he was a hindu prince who took like 3 trips out of a castle after being fed the silver spoon and he had a sort of epiphany around what it means to really live lol
but yeah idk
(that was atleast my laymans understanding of it as I'm Canadian and all that lol)
deep copper
that sounds like a rich dude going religious to gain more followers...
gusty star
ikr
you'd have to dig more into it to get the full story
(or atleast whatever is said to be the story since its ancient at this point)
deep copper
... tbh it sounds like a huge novel type story -_-
gusty star
yeah xD honestly probably is
deep copper
i will ask dieter to read it, he is into reading recently
gusty star
similarly, the bible is really just one long book of short stories about why you should listen to this particular idea of god lmao
(and what happens if you don't lmao)
deep copper
people really had a lot of time huh, to be writing thick books
deep copper
well it did give them better control over people
gusty star
the bible had multiple authors
I'm not sure about other religious texts
the "book of mark" etc just means it was written by a guy who went by Mark xD
deep copper
power corrupts, you said, I won't be surprised the high priest or whatever of all religions went adding snippets to make rules that suit them
fleet tangle
People are weak and they need something to believe in that makes their lives better. Hope.
That or indoctrination.
gusty star
cuz Jesus rebels against the Pharisees (the dominant jewish high priests, but do note that this is in Roman held territory and the romans routinely suppressed everyone who lived there). Like theres a story about J-Dawg flipping the tables of the money lenders cuz their doing it in the temple, and I think this was again the pharisees doing this (it comes down to usury as I understand it lol)
deep copper
the blue hug goes well with daekesh
gusty star
cuz usury isn't illegal according to Judaism, but is according to Christianity lmao (usury = loans with interest aka contemporary finance)
fleet tangle
Hugkesh.
deep copper
for some reason, i feel like i need to be aware of 50 seasons of backstory to get what you said here 😄
gusty star
ugh its like GoT
so much canon lmao
I went to publicly funded schools in Canada right? but theres two types: regular public or christian/catholic. I went to the regular ones for like 5 years, and then switched to the catholic stream as the school was closer to my house after I moved. So I've learned too much of that shiet lol.
deep copper
do they not teach other stuff there ?
gusty star
yes but no lol
exhibit a: I had to take a class called Christian Ethics to graduate highschool
(there was a "world religions" part of that class but it was a small, few day unit)
deep copper
well they are trying to keep the culture alive i suppose
gusty star
I also had to volunteer for like 15 hours to pass the grade 12 class, again to graduate.
Luckily my grade 12 teacher for CE also gave us the tests to study from rofl
so.. it was a grade booster but it did also suck...
deep copper
so how exactly did you catch up to the parts you missed during those 5 years ?
gusty star
well I think it was harder at first, as I hadn't ever read the bible lmao. But I guess it was ok cuz it was all new and sticky to the memory at the time.
deep copper
and volunteer for what 🤔
gusty star
anything
community service basically
I gave blood for 3 hours, for instance (tho you got bonus cuz its really like 30 mins to an hour).
deep copper
for some reason i imagined you going around in church clothes indoctrining people xD
gusty star
ikr
thats called missionary work tho hehe
well maybe theres another term
but its similar anyway
deep copper
I gave blood for 3 hours, for instance (tho you got bonus cuz its really like 30...
but that's cool tbh
deep copper
but its similar anyway
i have not studied those subjects so 😛 i wouldn't know
deep copper
yes 😔
gusty star
idk philosophy is more useful to study
cuz religion is more useful when thought of as a sort* of a proto-philosophy, an attempt at explaining the big "whys"
deep copper
you are even more useful to study 🫂
gusty star
the og answer being "God did it.". Which was acceptable, for a time.
deep copper
i didn't know there's types of philosophy
gusty star
ye, different branches even -- metaphysics, epistemology, etc.
deep copper
that barely sounds like philosophy
gusty star
when you read the definitions it makes sense 😉
from google
metaphysics: the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time, and space.
epistemology: the theory of knowledge, especially with regard to its methods, validity, and scope. Epistemology is the investigation of what distinguishes justified belief from opinion.
trail wedge
the best answer to almost all those big whys is "doesn't matter actually"
gusty star
thats just nihilism 😉
deep copper
from google
metaphysics: ```the branch of philosophy that deals with the first p...
wait i actually know the first lol
gusty star
(now you're thinking with portals)
timber viper
https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-ok-saitama-gif-4973579
people fight
meanwhile nihilists:
deep copper
the second is kinda like math proof stuff
gusty star
see the issue with nihilism is that its stunningly seductive.
deep copper
...and I don't know what nihilism is
trail wedge
see the issue with nihilism is that its stunningly seductive.
no the issue is that most people don't actually understand it
timber viper
see the issue with nihilism is that its stunningly seductive.
because it address to most primitive human mechanism
trail wedge
if nothing matters, you should choose your own purpose instead of crying about how you have no purpose
gusty star
ye ofc
trail wedge
any choice you made is an illusion anyway
gusty star
but it seems pretty radical if you're not used to thinking that way
nietzsches (and camus and sartre to a lesser extent) voice cracks like thunder in the heads of the devout
deep copper
the belief that nothing in the world has a real existence.
trail wedge
nietzsches (and camus and sartre to a lesser extent) voice cracks like thunder i...
nah I don't give a shit what Nietzsche said
it's about science
super determinism is correct, free will is an illusion
gusty star
I meant in regards to your first proposition, not the second
trail wedge
that said you should just live your life as if you had free will anyway imo
timber viper
fun fact, science proved you actually just reason brain's thoughts
so you actually dont decide, you can only "resist"
deep copper
so i am not at fault for being creepy at times 😌
gusty star
ye, but none of this jives with individuality or even a courts conception of responsibility ie commonly held assumptions, ideas and paradigms
timber viper
problem is how or why you teached your brain to release dopamine when you be creepy
trail wedge
I meant in regards to your first proposition, not the second
one follows from the other... if everything is deterministic then there can't be a "purpose" to your life in the normal way people mean it
your purpose is just to be a domino for other events in that case
something you would be 100% unaware of anyway
gusty star
I suppose.
timber viper
your purpose is just to be a domino for other events in that case
spiritualism go brr
you're actually dragonHell
timber viper
when dragonHell hugs you die
trail wedge
that's why I say live life as if you had choice and free will, don't worry about meaning or purpose.... I say that because that's the best way to live imo, all this worrying about nonsense is just a waste of time
deep copper
when dragonHell hugs you die
they hug us for the rest of our lives 🫂
deep copper
now you're starting to sound like nietzche xD
so they aren't dragonHell ?
gusty star
Only in appearance I suppose
timber viper
so they aren't dragonHell ?
how dare u 
deep copper
so when eren took that pic 3.5 years ago, it was determined he would keep it rn 🤔
timber viper
I saw it randomly on Google Photos and decided to make it pfp back
was that also determined
ocean parcel
hey guys what's up
trail wedge
so when eren took that pic 3.5 years ago, it was determined he would keep it rn ...
think about it this way.... in a movie everything has happened already but you haven't watched it all yet; you get it 1 frame at a time....
now think of the universe that way
deep copper
so google photos engineers made it such that this all happens, cool
timber viper
think about it this way.... in a movie everything has happened already but you h...
what's the thing you're playing the movie though.. thats what everyone is curious about
deep copper
think about it this way.... in a movie everything has happened already but you h...
that's cool tbh !!
trail wedge
what's the thing you're playing the movie though.. thats what everyone is curiou...
nothing... you're an extra on my set
🙂
trail wedge
jk we're all extras on each other's sets
deep copper
is that why that space movie had a scene where all events happen at the same time, where time got physical or whatever
trail wedge
maybe
deep copper
internsteller
timber viper
well since string theory says at higher dimensions we could observe "everything"
deep copper
or something
timber viper
that implies everything is determined
trail wedge
well since string theory says at higher dimensions we could observe "everything"
actually string theory has a bunch of tiny dimensions... we sit outside of them
but if you were a 5D being... yes you could see all 4D of our universe
timber viper
I still dont get if we are in a subset of an array of dimensions or 4th or 5th one are in different places other than 3rd one
they say human body couldnt take being on 4th dimension
trail wedge
I still dont get if we are in a subset of an array of dimensions or 4th or 5th o...
ehhh don't waste time on string theory it's a bad model
trail wedge
they say human body couldnt take being on 4th dimension
the 4th dimension is time
everything exists in 4 dimensions in our universe
timber viper
the 4th dimension is time
that's a heated topic physicians keep arguing about
timber viper
heard 3 different things about 4th one being time or not though
trail wedge
only people who don't actually know anything about physics have a hard time understanding this
a dimension is an axis you measure something on
it's not what sci-fi thinks it is
deep copper
x y z time etc ?
timber viper
But shouldn't each one should be bigger than previous one
trail wedge
no
timber viper
Time looks 2d
trail wedge
Time is 1 dimension.... it can go forwards and backwards
Space is 3 dimensions.... it can go 2 directions on 3 axis
timber viper
so why time exists along with geometric/observable ones?
zinc matrix
how does time go backwards?
trail wedge
how does time go backwards?
it can but we wouldn't experience it.... anti-matter experiences time backwards though
for us the arrow of time is forwards due to entropy
deep copper
anti matters spoiling themselves by playing in reverse
trail wedge
anti matters spoiling themselves by playing in reverse
they explode when they touch normal matter... so
timber viper
it can but we wouldn't experience it.... anti-matter experiences time backwards ...
so anti-matter is from future? from our perspective
trail wedge
no hugging anti-matter
trail wedge
so anti-matter is from future? from our perspective
yeh kinda
tulip orbit
I cleaned my car a bit and now all I smell is windex 😦
trail wedge
I cleaned my car a bit and now all I smell is windex 😦
get some anti-windex and stand back
deep copper
well, i can pick your nose so it's plugged
jk jk
thats a reference to their older message, i am not being creepy
tulip orbit
get some anti-windex and stand back
I feel like mixing windex and anti-windex might... explode...
deep copper
.
trail wedge
@timber viper You might find this interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HYw6vPR9qU
umm no... Sabine agrees with everything I said
I watch her too
trail wedge
that video says 0 extra dimensions detected but it's a breakdown of the paper
she's been on PBS space time before as a guest I'm pretty sure
Well they have a bunch of videos on all the major proposals, not just the ones Matt agrees with
he's not a string theorist for example, but they have several videos on what string theory covers and what the evidence for and against it is
deep copper
it was a reference to something! it's like me calling you a mom
because you are Laura's mom?
deep copper
because you are one? it's like calling you a tank
timber viper
but he is a tank though
deep copper
and a mom
timber viper
Laura's mom
deep copper
i am calling you "a mom" not our mom
timber viper
so how do you judge god particle was actually named god damn particle but elitists didnt want "damn" part
since we were talking about #chaos-physics
first released paper
deep copper
sounds like they are indoctrined
timber viper
The story goes that Nobel Prize-winning physicist Leon Lederman referred to the Higgs as the "Goddamn Particle." The nickname was meant to poke fun at how difficult it was to detect the particle. It took nearly half a century and a multi-billion dollar particle accelerator to do it.
trail wedge
yeh we know you mean the higgs boson
timber viper
recommendations are lit
trail wedge
obviously in minecraft
zinc matrix
is there anything you cannot do in minecraft?
deep copper
hug
timber viper
is there anything you cannot do in minecraft?
create spheres
trail wedge
create spheres
https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531
deep copper
create spheres
ben did it
timber viper
the moment when you realize you need spheres to make a grape
deep copper
but that's mod
timber viper
but that's mod
deep copper
the moment when you realize you need spheres to make a grape
oh my god xD
should be blasted* for a tank
you don't just get stopped from entering this place, you get stopped from life
timber viper
well they have around 300k polygons on each character
they could cut a little bit
and focus on grapes
deep copper
deep copper
vit d
timber viper
coughs blood <- expressing of this
mossy nexus
Source 2
timber viper
Either Luos of someone named Alex with slightly faded profile picture who roams around #graphics a lot
but I know when I read that both were involved into the convo
just cant remember which one was said that
Better yet, even Final Fantasy XIV's character models had an average polygon count of 8,000 back in 2013, meaning a host of that game's main players could easily fit into XV's heroes, too.
I've been lied
it was another FF game btw
deep copper
make it 7990 and add 10 to grapes
timber viper
not 14
if you take into account the hulking 100,000 polygons that make up just ONE of FF XV's character models (they have 20,000 per hairpiece)
probably XV (what they were mentioning at #graphics)
zinc matrix
looks pretty normal to me
deep copper
i hope the creator got hugged properly and stuff
fleet tangle
Is it just me, or is her head tiny?
deep copper
Is it just me, or is her head tiny?
now i can't unsee that
fleet tangle
It's not even the clothes.
It's the fact her head is about the same size as her knee.
ocean parcel
i'm tired
deep copper
hi tired
ocean parcel
what always starts with w and ends with t ? 🤔
deep copper
wet
ocean parcel
it was not a question, it was a statement. 
deep copper
ah xD
fleet tangle
wallet
fleet tangle
What number becomes even if you remove s?
ocean parcel
i just realised the guy i copied it off though put a question mark, i should've removed it.
ocean parcel
how's seed?
you remember my seed?
fleet tangle
Fixed.
zinc matrix
7
ocean parcel
seven
deep copper
seven !
fleet tangle
See. Easy!
deep copper
F rwx first
deep copper
you remember my seed?
they were very memorable
deep copper
why E?
fleet tangle
Work it out!
ocean parcel
they were very memorable
i still have them. i even have more of them now. i think i must've bought like over £100 worth of seeds now.
deep copper
that's such a wild question, took a while even with the answer
deep copper
i still have them. i even have more of them now. i think i must've bought like o...
you have become a pro seed holder !!
ocean parcel
you have become a pro seed holder !!
ya, i intend to buy even more in like 11 days. :)
hopefully the last lot.
deep copper
it sounds like it may not be the last slot 😅
ocean parcel
wdym?
deep copper
you are still collecting them, and you have spent a lot already, and you said "hopefully" so it feels like it may still go on
deep copper
the head does feels off
fleet tangle
Head should not be smaller than the foot.
deep copper
like it was added seperately
zinc matrix
<- just like my head
deep copper
hair and neck size do seem to be playing a big role
so that's why midjourney has same face everywhere
ocean parcel
PRETTY 
deep copper
🌸
edgy ice
FFXIV has a weird style to the game, there's a bit of exaggeration to each model
Well
Unless you play hyur.
and are boring
Also henlo erryone, I am stuck in new Jersey, hunting for old jersey
they can't hide it forever
That's what they want you to think
Also >heads should not be smaller then feet/hands
I refer you to: roe.
Male roe built like a shithouse
Male roe built like RE5 chris
S H O T S F I R E D
but true.
Also yea(not that anyone cares), I'm not dead
I been travelling around NJ with some friends
No particular reason
We're back as his house rn
Also femroe superiority
I'm conflicted on making my alt remain a potato or go femroe
On one hand, femroe superiority
But on the other hand, every cutscene is the funniest thing on the planet because the game was not designed to accommodate such a small model and therefore the camera is glitching the hell out and set pieces are literally impossible because of it
deep copper
I been travelling around NJ with some friends
no wonder you weren't here ! i really missed you 🫂
edgy ice
Hell yea you know I got the DRK mog sword
I like using that one DRK sword that expands when drawn, the PVP katty and the PVP oni club
oni club best sword
SGE needs a buff man
It really does
Also PVP is fun in 14 now, the reworked PVP feels great and crystalline conflict is a bop
SGE is just a lot of buttons and a lot of technical shit for far less healing
But it's eating better then AST
AST mains stay hungry
Oh SCH is my main heal
It's why I'm like SGE needs a buff lol
zinc wagon
blueprints are easy
edgy ice
10/10
Yee.
I tried maining WHM, idk how the hell they do it
WHM feels like self inflicted torture if you're not green DPS
Which I guess is why people used it, I mained SCH/AST(back when we had shields)
real flint
hello, do you play Neverwinter?
broken sigil
Nope
real flint
ah okay, sorry, the pf pic reminded me of an old player i knew
broken sigil
ah okay, sorry, the pf pic reminded me of an old player i knew
Ah, no problem 😅
I never played
real flint
i honestly just dotn have the time for a second life/job in an rpg anymore. all or nothing type, you see
UE would be the better investment of time
edgy ice
I have a surprisedly good work life balance.
Granted I'm not reeling in millions but I have enough to play with friends on assorted games, work on UE5 and still make enough to live
fleet tangle
Same.
stiff crystal
you are just throwing random letters together and act like they mean something, right?
has zero clue what people are talking about
zinc matrix
the earlier ff(?) stuff i didnt understand either 😄
im guessing wlb mean work life balance
which is a myth
or fantasy
so could be still ff stuff
fleet tangle
Pyro POM Pyro is the only opening allowed for mages. Tanks just gotta deal.
Get some nice rolling combustion right from the start. That was fun. Idek what mages do these days.
Was so fun doing Reliquary of Souls back in the day with that.
zinc matrix
i played arcane or frost mostly. quitted when wod came out.
fleet tangle
You mean the 2 button one?
Arcane Blast wasn't it?
Over and over...
Fuck that shit.
I played Fire in Molten Core.
<- hard core
(The original MC at relevant times!)
I had Exalted with Thorium Brotherhood 😦
I figured!
zinc matrix
what newish expansion it was that had lots of jaina related quests/cinematics?
fleet tangle
I quit in Cata. No regrets.
After killing Neltharian hard mode
This is what I hear.
Pandas sounded fun, though.
Lok'tar Ogar etc
zinc matrix
right, so bfa was my latest. i liked that jaina questline.
fleet tangle
Outlands was garbage land 😦
Maybe?
With Nagrand and stuff.
I hated most of the zones there.
The TBC one. Actually most of it was alright actually.
SMV was poop.
I loved the dungeons in TBC.
5-man to raid.
Weirdo! 😛
I quite liked Nagrand. Very relaxing.
Being Horde, I never did Elwynn.
TBC is where they introduced heroic dungeons, right?
Now Northrend, that really sucked.
But Ulduar was amazing.
gusty star
nagrand tho, nesingwary expedition intesifies
also ye TBC is where they introduced heroics
TBC was such a grind tho
fleet tangle
Remember getting server first shattered halls heroic, that was intense.
gusty star
I literally played uh.. Alterac Valley till my hands bled to get the frostwolf howler cuz it was way cheaper than buying a mount lmao
(well not literally)
but it was pain for sure
meanwhile I came back for shadowlands, was first to market for legendary bis for subt rogues, hustled the auction house and made so much $$$
fleet tangle
I got lucky with mounts. I changed from UD to BE, lost my undead mount and then got the one from Sindragosa!
gusty star
dayumn!
fleet tangle
Guild lovin' ❤️
gusty star
thats so lit
my one buddy loves doing legacy runs to try to get the achievement mounts haha
I basically grinded out some stuff from BoA and Legion (the dubloon mounts and the dalaran sewer rat mount lol) for the mounts I use now
but that was more recently lol
fleet tangle
Hehe
I don't even remember what mounts and pets I had.
I got a load on my pala too
gusty star
noice
gusty star
fair, I might get dragonflight but I wanna see what they are doing to every classes talent tree lol
cuz they are reworking talents this exp
fleet tangle
Fuck it's been like 13 years since I played WoW.
gusty star
ikr
I hadn't played since pandaria
basically I played TBC, WoTLK, Pandaria and then Shadowlands this year/last year lol
only cuz my friends were all playing shadowlands tho and were hyping it up
and I had just built a computer
ikr
yeah 100 percent
I bregrudingly give them money cuz imo they are holding the IP hostage.
(in a sense, since they are the owner. but there are other stakeholders here, namely the fans)
You are much more principled than I am then haha.
fleet tangle
How do you feel about all the sexual harassment shit that went on there?
gusty star
You're not missing out on much. That game is really addictive for all the wrong reasons (habit loops and behaviouir gamification) and I love/hate it haha
gusty star
Seems part and parcel for the entertainment industry, at this point, sad that the rot has spread to game dev specifically tho, atleast for a major company.
hahah hmm I wonder xD
zinc matrix
How do you feel about all the sexual harassment shit that went on there?
i dont know about that, but the milk story laura told me was pretty hilarious. (and bad)
fleet tangle
Milk story?
gusty star
lets change subjects then
zinc matrix
Light & Magic is neat
fleet tangle
Somebody died?
zinc matrix
Milk story?
basically someone stole milk from their female workers is all you need to know...
or something like that
fleet tangle
Oh god.
zinc matrix
inside a company?
ok
Light & Magic first episode is really neat, as it shows how interconnected people were on the industry back in the days
fleet tangle
I'm a big proponent of voting with your wallet. Sadly, it just doesn't actually work because not only are these companies generally awful, but so are most of humanity and they just don't care enough.
gusty star
ye strikes only work if you can get the rest of the voters on board
zinc matrix
I'm a big proponent of voting with your wallet. Sadly, it just doesn't actually ...
big companies do not have total control of everything
fleet tangle
Sure they do.
zinc matrix
no they not?
deep glen
^
deep glen
not to mention many of the higher-ups where in on the "game"
fleet tangle
Companies will put profits before people. See: Ford. When one of their cars was bursting into flame, they weighed up the cost of recalling the cars vs the lawsuits. The lawsuits were cheaper and so just let people die.
zinc matrix
what do you expect of a company who makes players pay monthly for a virtual service that took thousand hours to be some small virtual shit