lounge

[deep copper]

same

[timber viper]

quaternions is still scary though, I want to dive into those one day

[foggy path]

my games are made of pure protein

[deep copper]

i found a cool channel called statquest on yt, it explained the fundamentals of why statistics is the way it is, do give that a shot if you are ever stuck with weird statistical stuff.

[zinc matrix]

i heard high school math is not learned, but just a bunch of decorated problems with formulas applied... i mean, you can not understand why some logic is set this or that way

[zinc matrix]

at least was what my teacher told me

[deep copper]

you aren't meant to learn, you are meant to score, that's the problem with these

[zinc matrix]

this is my "i need to learn" list. wont be happening anytime soon.

[timber viper]

Whats your favorite "difficult" concept

more difficult than high school things but not difficult enough to learn for a sane person

lets go with your favorite thing in graphics programming?

math related

why not rasterizers

I heard its good enough to learn algebra

I am AMD

I use ryzen and rx

[zinc matrix]

hi amd. im tom 🙂

[timber viper]

next question is; any cool c++ project ideas to develop math skills?

[zinc matrix]

game engine 😄

[timber viper]

I dont even have high scool concepts

so basic ones

i guess

trigonometry etc

[timber viper]

I cant write 3 millions of line code 😄

linear algebra could work too 🤔

[foggy path]

Almost any kind of game uses trig 🤔

unless you can only move anything in four directions only I guess

[timber viper]

FMath abstracts them away a little bit i guess

in UE

directx then

oh wait

opengl

not directx

nani

[foggy path]

Yeah depends I guess, any time you have to do sine or cosine or whatever you're basically doing trig lol

[timber viper]

ah, so its even possible in raw c++

People made doom lead the industry for a long time though, they were engineers already

[foggy path]

It manifested through John Carmack's galactic brain

[deep copper]

3d cube in text i guess ascii cube ?

[timber viper]

There are places I understand "I need to use a sin and cos here!" but problem is, I dont even know what sin and cos does.. I saw some fancy graphics it's used to find triangulate and some kind of angle points in a sphere but that's all

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/sinewave-sineline-sine-gif-22707024

[foggy path]

Even I don't really understand trig even though I know how to use it

So I highly doubt that estimate

:P

[timber viper]

this is cool

[deep copper]

there are plenty decent resources to learn about it now

compared to a few years back even

[foggy path]

Still

[zinc matrix]

cant say that i fully understand maths, but i do like pie 🙂

[timber viper]

Is there any resource that explains for example why we need "sin" or "tan" in given examples?

I know we need sin and cos for weapon recoils in games

[foggy path]

It'll already take me 30 mins to look up all the math mumbojumbo involved in any explanation of it lol

[deep copper]

if i was round enough, i could be your pi

[timber viper]

for example we found tan is 35 degrees, but why? whats the real world use case etc

[zinc matrix]

we are like two parallel lines. we have so much in common. but we'll never meet. 🙂

[deep copper]

if we were both straight enough yes

[foggy path]

Sounds like more sunblock is needed

[deep copper]

are you feeling hot ?

[foggy path]

I mean if you have a tan to the power of 2

[timber viper]

is tan is the slope angle in that case?

why in the graph tan is rectangular though?

ah I see

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/secant-line-converging-to-tangent-line-animation-gif-18716967

[short grove]

a good way to remember this is soh-cah-toa (sinus = opposite / hypotenuse, cosine = adjecent / hypotenuse, tangent = opposite / adjecent)

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/my-lit-function-gif-21680672

[timber viper]

If you drew that from zero, thanks a lot for the effort by the way 😅

[short grove]

that's the one that stuck with me, i think the circle might be easier to visualize tho

[timber viper]

Is blue part also counted as tan's length?

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/tau-symbol-warhammer40k-gif-15421376

[timber viper]

it's calculated as sin then

lol sorry

[short grove]

Laura teaching math and getting her students to to fail the class

[timber viper]

no it's perfect

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-slayer-tan-jiro-gif-25823955

[timber viper]

that's how I learn

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/doing-math-wrong-answer-bad-calculations-gif-16684031

[timber viper]

If you wanted to find the blue line's length what would you need to do

[short grove]

that's just called public education

[zinc matrix]

depends the country

[short grove]

'merica

[zinc matrix]

here our best universities are public

and i am on america

but at the south

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/simple-math-gif-25174149

[short grove]

it's notoriously bad in the north, folks can't even name the capital of the US

[zinc matrix]

here is like: rich people use private schools at fundamental / high level, then they occupy public universities

and poor people are the opposite

public fundamental / high then they need to work and study on private ones

[timber viper]

when did you learn this exactly

and how

[short grove]

i was silently pointing towards California cough cough

[timber viper]

no it wasnt it cant be lol

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/pi-day-pizza-pi-math-chris-timmons-gif-13866112

[timber viper]

I learned what sqrt is in UE

ikr

[short grove]

really?

[timber viper]

18? i guess

either 18 or 19

education itself is a failure in here

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/alayna-pythag-pythagoras-theorem-gif-26265304

[zinc matrix]

different people everytime

[timber viper]

How is the education is like in successful countries though? For example I can never understand something properly unless I reason it

[zinc matrix]

education is superb for some

[timber viper]

So I need to keep asking rapid and dumb questions to learn

[zinc matrix]

formal education*

[timber viper]

You cant do that in here sadly

[short grove]

my eyes

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/ib-ibdp-stressed-school-high-school-gif-25672922

what is IB indeed

[timber viper]

damn every topic has an interactive thing in here

[soft night]

something of International education it seems aka International Baccalaureate

[zinc matrix]

Laura is 100% self taught?

[short grove]

i dunno ask her

[zinc matrix]

i am blocked

🙂 hehe

[short grove]

oh

[zinc matrix]

ah :\

i would ask you if you have any tip / insight

i learned my way through basics of coding/modelling and music and what i can type is: even if you do not understand, at some point everything just clicks

if you persist

but it was scary as heck the first 2 weeks... principally when trying to learn Lua, nothing made sense

i lost my vanity here

worth it actually, i learned my lessons

never acted this way, so weird

i am trying to brainstorm my next weird period online

but idk what or how to behave

maybe i will try to be a nut on voice chat one day

[short grove]

i have no clue what you are on about but i don't think i wanna know

[timber viper]

you really dont 😄

[zinc matrix]

just some random chatting about its life barely without any barrier

i was hearing a design podcast yesterday, look who i found, https://ireneau.com/

did not know AU is an epic designer

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-xxl-basketball-head-roblox-xxl-basketball-head-basketball-slam-dunk-gif-26405812

[short grove]

soooo i really don't wanna know then … thanks Laura

[zinc matrix]

thanks Laura, i ~~love ~~you too

[timber viper]

There was an entire week

[zinc matrix]

i love this informality of discord people burning each other in the same chat

[timber viper]

automod did nothing

it was fking creepy tbh

[zinc matrix]

(i am afraid of exposing myself)

[timber viper]

more like disgusting actually, after some point people really started to post +18 content and such

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-rage-hairbrush-angry-kid-gif-9806845

[timber viper]

I'm pretty sure Luos would ban multiple people

[zinc matrix]

lol the only adult chat from me was drugs

and i never made apology

[mossy nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-hazbin-hotel-alastor-mods-moderators-alastor-mod-ping-gif-20726619

[knotty skiff]

Who's tbe Scallywag Sinner ping me!?!? I KILL EM!!!!

[timber viper]

some of them went literally crazy when you were not around

[short grove]

in a server were you can expect kids to be around? really?

[timber viper]

no one pinged you recently

in lounge

[zinc matrix]

what else? flirting with girls?

[timber viper]

yeah, no jokes

[knotty skiff]

Strange

Alright going back to suffering with weigh blend stuff

[zinc matrix]

i am terrible

that is why i never had a girlfriend...

btw, i save so much time discovering about particles system to do a book page curl

i am happy as heck

well, at least giovanna likes me

😛

fundamental school friend

❤️

Laura is bitter

[short grove]

hmm how so?

[zinc matrix]

just idle in chat and you will read

[short grove]

i like the user name "if i can google it, so can you".

[mossy nexus]

In case there is any confusion..

**6. No NSFW content. People in this community may be as young as 13-years-old. If you wouldn't show it to your boss or your mother, it's not appropriate here. This rule applies to usernames, profile pictures, and all content shared in the server.
**
#rules

[zinc matrix]

i like them, btw

[timber viper]

dont let luqtas explain vague things they said btw

really

especially when they mention about someone else

it gets creepy very easily

[zinc matrix]

i am the most selfless here, what you chatting about Eren?

[short grove]

so affectionate_user but creepier

[zinc matrix]

@deep copper i do not hate you, but i am hurt

i wonder how many years until the haters start loving me

[short grove]

btw i found this video for the metric users here: https://youtu.be/iJymKowx8cY

[zinc matrix]

lol

a north american commenting on imperial system

who do you think you are?

[short grove]

a dozen does work yes

how do you buy your eggs if not in a box of a dozen?

[foggy path]

I don't buy eggs because I have an egg intolerance

:p

[mossy nexus]

I think we should return to base 60. If it was good enough for the Sumerians then it's good enough for us.

[short grove]

heresy

[mossy nexus]

Hen eggs are okay, ducks are better but goose eggs are the betterersest

[short grove]

Canada and UK uses it too but the UK is all over the place they use a weird mish-mash of the metric and the imperial system

[zinc matrix]

uau, Canada!

there very few people beyond these countries to come up with a inch fuck thing

[short grove]

wait till you hear about barley corns

[mossy nexus]

A load of things in the US is metric. Currency, bottled/canned refreshments etc etc

In the UK we use miles but also have road signs saying yards..

[short grove]

and stones for body weight

[zinc matrix]

then i am the gross here

Laura likes placing chickens period in a box!

i am out to duties

[mossy nexus]

egg sizes are in liquid ounces too

[zinc matrix]

we usually just eat them

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OCOG2VBFM08

[deep copper]

why are you hurt 😢

[deep copper]

so i am less creepy ! 😍 a compliment !

[timber viper]

you're at the "kalm" stage

and yeah I'm too bored to make memes

[deep copper]

am i worried in later stage because there's someone ahead of me in my game ? or am i worried because that's a threat to me ?

also, is 12 base better then 🤔

[timber viper]

its up to interpretation

either you want to be more creepy than that someone else or you're in panik because someone still thinks you are creepy

[deep copper]

creepiness is just a side-effect tbh, nothing i can do about it 🤷

[timber viper]

I'm just memeing

[deep copper]

wanna try something else ?

[timber viper]

yeah I'll try watching kaguya-sama now

[deep copper]

oh okay, have fun !

do hug your cat for me

[timber viper]

my sister took it 🥲

will come back one week later

[deep copper]

oh no!

why

what will happen to it in the week ?!

[timber viper]

it's her cat essentially, but most of the time I take care of the cat

sometimes she takes it back for a while

[deep copper]

you are very much like luqtas i guess

[timber viper]

nani

[deep copper]

he also takes care of an animal because of his sister

[timber viper]

let's handshake and agree on I'm not like luqtas 🤝

[deep copper]

alright!

you are like ben, his dog was taken away

i suggested to be the substitute till then, he didn't like it

[timber viper]

makes sense

[deep copper]

I'd offer you the same thing but i am worried you wouldn't like it either

[timber viper]

makes sense again

[deep copper]

he never talked to me again 😢

[timber viper]

its my sister lol, she'll return it back when she pets the cat enough

[deep copper]

no wonder the cat always hides and stuff

[timber viper]

petting a dog or cat is 8th thing on requirement hierarchy

[deep copper]

also, how did you take the cat out

[timber viper]

from under of my bed?

[deep copper]

i have neither, can i use you for it ?

[deep copper]

yeah

you said it was unreachable

[timber viper]

do I look like a dog or a cat

[timber viper]

he decided to wake up on its own

[deep copper]

no but you might feel like one on rub

[timber viper]

[deep copper]

lured by food 😔

[deep copper]

come on! how is this any different from a handshake?

i am hand-ing a different part,
your head is out in the open anyway, and it doesn't cause any damages

i have heard it also stimulates hair growth and brain, you might find math easier and hairy after it !

[timber viper]

you know I'm not really a fan of the "side effects" and vague words that imply weird things

[deep copper]

what weird things

i am certain i was very direct

there are also tools made for head massage etc that do the same thing right

infact, i also heard as a tip, whenever you go for a public speech or something, massaging the front part of your head helps

i am giving so many benefits! ... except it's online but that just means you are immune to covid !

[short grove]

are you trying to be creepier than luqtas rn?

[deep copper]

no 😭 why

[soft night]

!8ball will Nasa Artemis I Launch today?

[turbid spindle]

@soft night, :8ball: Ask again later.

[deep copper]

stop trolling me guys

[soft night]

!8ball would @deep copper to be a great astronaut?

[turbid spindle]

@soft night, :8ball: Most likely.

[deep copper]

not sure if that is your way of consoling me by saying i am really skilled or also calling me creepy enough to be sent to space alone

[soft night]

!8ball will the affectionate_user to be sent to space alone?

[turbid spindle]

@soft night, :8ball: Very doubtful.

[timber viper]

we send luqtas too?

nice 😄

[zinc matrix]

both to uranus

[timber viper]

it only takes a few dozens of years to reach

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/artemis-nasa-gif-26581595

[timber viper]

@soft night so why are you specifically hyped for artemis

do you expect something revolutionary to be happen in short term or just fan of space missions

[soft night]

today is the another launch attempt

[deep copper]

so hyped you are typing more

[soft night]

this is like that thing after Apollo missions

[timber viper]

I know, but I'm wondering if the idea of Artemis attracts you or the general space missions

[soft night]

humans need to be multiplanetary species

[fleet tangle]

Just sent all the politicians to live on Mars.

[soft night]

there is Elysium movie about of elites live in spacestation

[timber viper]

I'd like to see that, though it looks like we'll only barely be able to colonise the other planets at the age where I'm possibly going to die

[deep copper]

or humans die and AI carries our goal to live on other planets

[zinc matrix]

what if this is all simulation and some dude is trolling us with the huge distances?

[deep copper]

you mean we are closer than we think
👉👈

[zinc matrix]

no

[fleet tangle]

Or maybe it's a simulation and the voyager probe is just gonna hit oob in a few years and we'll be like "wtf mate"

[deep copper]

oob?

[fleet tangle]

Out of Bounds

[deep copper]

ah xD

[zinc matrix]

ye, or like that truman show 😄

that would be funny

[deep copper]

if it gets culled that would be sad

[knotty skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/romance-gif-23346671

Mfw when realized today is the next month of free assets but its only available every first Tuesday of the month

[zinc matrix]

maybe we should do some good politics on the first planet we evoluted

how sustainable is to live in another planet?

look at this

i wonder who is the vegan who will go to the moon!

[torpid star]

ah much better

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/leak-water-leak-water-illusion-gif-11551909

[deep copper]

laminar flow !

[celest musk]

no

[fleet tangle]

Looks like it's freezing

[soft night]

it might be simple as refresh rate set to water flow speed

[tulip orbit]

its magic

[fleet tangle]

Either way, interesting use of a glory hole.

[deep copper]

no u

[celest musk]

its just magic

nothing else

[mossy nexus]

The power of sound 🙂

[zinc matrix]

i wanna cry

[deep copper]

feel free to cry on me

[zinc matrix]

i can not!

[deep copper]

why not ?

i think i am decently cry-on-able

[zinc matrix]

big boys do not cry 🙁

and i bet you are decent enough to cry on! at least your profile pic makes me wanna go-hug

[deep copper]

crying will help let you out stress stuff, cry

[zinc matrix]

if i could do that!

[deep copper]

aww 🫂 , why do you wanna cry thoughhh

[zinc matrix]

depression

[deep copper]

what's on your mind ?

[zinc matrix]

i am tired

[deep copper]

we can rest together ? or is something specific making you tired ?

[zinc matrix]

i lost my ability of relax some time ago

[deep copper]

why ?! what took it away ?!

[zinc matrix]

game dev.

[deep copper]

game dev is very stressful, yes

it gradually makes you more and more irritated

so what are you planning to do about it ?

[zinc matrix]

yeah, i wonder if my month 8 of production feels like this, what the next years will be

[deep copper]

it will definitely not be easy yeah, but it would get easier as you produce more and more games overtime

the depression i mean,

game making would still be hard, but you will eventually figure out how to do it better

are you stuck on something?

is the progress off schedule?

[zinc matrix]

there is no schedule

[deep copper]

then you have something less to worry about hopefully

[tulip orbit]

me too. from work tho. Been too tired to even do any gamedev for weeks 😦

[zinc matrix]

i do not have any hobby anymore

[deep copper]

music ?

[zinc matrix]

life is just think and develop this video-game

[zinc matrix]

it gets boring after thousands albums

and producing, for me, is inside the game dev . bubble

[deep copper]

it's quite a dull task, yeah

[foggy path]

you're just gonna burn out it sounds like :P

[zinc matrix]

i am past my first burnout

[foggy path]

and heading for your next lol

[zinc matrix]

finally i am able to work more than 5 hours per day again

my problem is what i am beyond my game

i managed to kick out all my friends

[deep copper]

sounds like you are worried about sacrificing everything for game dev?

[zinc matrix]

giovanna started with the children talk,i do not want to see her

even cycling feels dangerous on my skin now

[deep copper]

ah...

[zinc matrix]

super funny!

[foggy path]

thank you

[zinc matrix]

not even online i can have a chat

[deep copper]

not being able to let it out physically might be the issue

[zinc matrix]

i wish i was fine with suicide

[foggy path]

frankly you seem to know exactly what's going on and exactly what you need - being professional help

[tulip orbit]

no.

[zinc matrix]

but i love living too much

[deep copper]

never stop loving it, though it does sound hard rn

[zinc matrix]

if i look for professional help, i prefer to buy tobacco and weed

[tulip orbit]

Whats that saying? If you dont give your body a break, your body will take it for you

[foggy path]

yeah good solution lol

[zinc matrix]

i had plenty of psychologists and it never clicked

[foggy path]

this is why I don't take these stupid rants seriously on this channel because people are like this lol

[tulip orbit]

sometimes venting helps tho

[foggy path]

people are here just venting and don't actually want to fix anything

[zinc matrix]

well, i am not working right now

[tulip orbit]

and sometimes when venting, us trying to help, doesnt

https://tenor.com/view/relaxing-chill-dyd-dydbetting-cats-gif-20898796

my solution is memes 🙂

@zinc matrix I do really hope you can get through this, and feel better 🙂

[deep copper]

the only solution i got is hugs

[foggy path]

honestly if you feel stressed you could just pick up something fun you can do that doesn't take a lot of time

walking is good, or juggling

[zinc matrix]

it is 10 celcius degrees and raining

[tulip orbit]

nice!

[zinc matrix]

Grow Home feels boring

[tulip orbit]

its heading towards 34C here today

[foggy path]

put on a rain coat, rain is fun if you dress for it lol

[zinc matrix]

i can not play violent stuff without feeling depressed

[foggy path]

play some Frog Detective

[deep copper]

i have a habit of getting stressed about something, and doing something else makes it worse because i am still thinking about the previous thing

[tulip orbit]

is that a game? or just something to do at the pond?

[zinc matrix]

yeah, i think it’s where my problem lies

[foggy path]

It's a game series, short fun super chill games

[deep copper]

probably a game about finding rain frogs

[zinc matrix]

no matter what i am doing, i think about game development 24/7

[deep copper]

i suggest try to think about what's the worst case, and how likely that is to happen

[zinc matrix]

the worst case is heading to a farm, work at the office, with good salary and no life objective

1 point behind drinking some expensive pesticide and going away

[tulip orbit]

yes. thinking about worst case scenarios is always the way to cheer up 😉

[deep copper]

it's the best because you aren't avoiding the stress object anymore, and that calms you down, when you realise the impending doom isn't real

[foggy path]

I think it's usually more constructive to try and understand why you are stressing about it

[tulip orbit]

atleast you're not in a job that makes you so f***king angry that you end up cutting your finger, and throwing 2x4s across the store, like my job

[deep copper]

that doesn't sounds all that different from game dev tbh 🤔 is that why you are worried ?

[zinc matrix]

it is worst than game dev

even if i can retire sooner than 40 years old

because the money

[deep copper]

ah, you don't wanna spend your youth doing desk job all day ?

[zinc matrix]

my major problem is that i do not know how to relax

[zinc matrix]

it is about having a meaning

i am not the type of non-spiritual person

[celest musk]

what is that?

[foggy path]

A desk job can still have meaning

[zinc matrix]

aham, singing papers on a colossal soybean farm full of pesticides to produce food for meat?

[foggy path]

Seems like it has some value in the food chain at the very least

[tulip orbit]

I was looking for a relavant meme, but found this instead. https://i.imgur.com/V2q0uG1.jpg

[foggy path]

But if you don't find it meaningful for yourself you probably should be looking for other work then

[deep copper]

same, this might work, it's a trick to sleep used by military as per some sketchy article

breath in for 4 seconds from nose without sound, hold for 4 seconds, exhale with sound from mouth for 7 seconds

this should bring heartrate to normal, or even make you sleepy

[foggy path]

I build software to make online ads and it's like eh whatever ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deep copper]

nearly every type of work looses its meaning at some point tbf 😅

[zinc matrix]

i wish i was whatever

[tulip orbit]

I think I was taught 5s? for my anxiety. It occasionally does help

[zinc matrix]

if something does not have a greater meaning, i can not feel fullfilled

[deep copper]

then make it 5 seconds, my memory isn't the best 😦

[zinc matrix]

that is why i have to deal with depression since 14

[foggy path]

I don't mind people ranting as much as them just obviously not making even the tiniest effort in improving their situation

[zinc matrix]

even being raised with milk almond

or some jargon like

[foggy path]

like I was suffering from depression and anxiety in my early-mid 20s

so it's not like I'm just talking about of my ass here lol

[zinc matrix]

did you went out?

i am turning 26 day 2x of this month

[deep copper]

i think this makes sense, different jobs have different meaning to everyone

[foggy path]

Yeah

The problem with when people say "meaningful" there's always some kind of grandiose thing like.. "I want to make the world a better place!" or whatever

and you obviously are pretty unlikely to be able to do that at work, but many small things in even mundane jobs can have meaning

for example being a cashier at a store can be meaningful if by smiling at someone you make their day a bit better

[fleet tangle]

"I want to make the world a better place" doesn't have to be grandiose, though. Just doing what you can to improve the lives of those around you makes the world a better place.

[foggy path]

Yeah but usually when people say things like that they associate it with some kind of big thing they never actually bothered defining properly what it means

[deep copper]

"we worry about controlling what we can't" huh

[foggy path]

Like it's just a vague idea in their heads "do something with meaning" but it actually means nothing because they never spent time figuring out what it means for them

[zinc matrix]

i dig this feeling; that is why i went for volunteer work when i was 18-19 ; that is why i am trying to develop an educative video-game about music theory… i do not play games since i am 20 and actually i do not like them

[foggy path]

you'll never have a job with meaning if you don't actually spend time and be specific about what that means

[zinc matrix]

but i am not worried, at least i feel i have to do my part

[fleet tangle]

Just like setting any goal. You need to set achievable and realistic goals and figure out how to actually do them. Not just say, "I will do x"

[foggy path]

Yeah

[deep copper]

that sounds like strivvy's issue as well, he never managed to define the steps to get to his goal all that clearly

[zinc matrix]

like vegan, i am one because animal welfare

i love meat

the taste is like a orgasm

[foggy path]

lol

[zinc matrix]

at least is what it felt 5 years ago

[foggy path]

I don't get people who are like "OMG BACON IS SO GOOD"

Bacon is like.. meh.

[zinc matrix]

i used to like red meat

[deep copper]

isn't there stuff that tastes like meat but made of vegetarian ingredients available now ?

[zinc matrix]

hamburger?

i am chatting about high cuts

[deep copper]

i think i saw a meme about plant based meat, i am not sure

[foggy path]

Nothing I've cooked from that stuff really was very close, but I've had some vegan burgers from Burger King and some other places and they are pretty good

[fleet tangle]

Depends on the bacon!

[zinc matrix]

good meat, not processed fat and dubious protein all together

[foggy path]

like the vegan whopper is fairly similar and you might not think about it not being meat if you didn't know

[zinc matrix]

i prefer rice and lentils combination than fake burgers

way more healthier and tastier

[foggy path]

Yeah I don't particularly care what it's made of as long as it tastes good lol

The problem I have with some vegan stuff is that my digestion hates various things for no apparent reason so sometimes I get kinda gassy lol

[zinc matrix]

it gets better with time

[foggy path]

It hasn't changed so I wouldn't know

[deep copper]

i thought vegan was easier on the stomach ?

[zinc matrix]

i have zero boost from non -soaked beans nowadays

[deep copper]

the more you know i guess

[zinc matrix]

boost = bloat

but when i started, it was pretty harsh

[foggy path]

It depends on what kinda vegan stuff I guess... Fiber inherently isn't easy to digest and vegan foods tend to be more fiber rich compared to meats

[zinc matrix]

a looooot more hahaha

[deep copper]

that's quite tough then

i never noticed

[foggy path]

I get mild allergic reactions from stuff like apples too so there might be something there too

It's a cross-reaction as a result of my pollen allergy as far as I'm aware of but it's kind of annoying because it happens with a lot of common fruits like apples, pears and bananas

[zinc matrix]

what

[zinc matrix]

oh circuits! can you eat vegetables?

[deep copper]

digesting stuff

[foggy path]

Yeah I mean I can eat the stuff just fine, it's just annoying as it gets itchy in my mouth lol

[deep copper]

yikes, an apple a day doesn't keep doctor away !

[zinc matrix]

i recommend soaking stuff and even washing beans after they are cooked

[foggy path]

There's some kind of similar proteins or something in both pollen and some fruits which triggers the reaction

[zinc matrix]

today i just do not care and put them unsoaked directly

[foggy path]

But for example apple juice does nothing because the allergents are in a different form and they don't trigger the reaction in that form

[zinc matrix]

oh, you are a meat machine then!

[foggy path]

lol

yeah it's kinda annoying when you want to try and eat more healthy and every time you try a new fruit it's like "oh this fucking thing gives me itchy mouth too"

[zinc matrix]

try to keep your fibers okay with non itch stuff

you will be ok

[foggy path]

and I get indigestion from cucumbers 🤦‍♂️

[zinc matrix]

and remember of caring about omega fat balance

[foggy path]

oh yeah and bell peppers...

[zinc matrix]

easy if you eat fish

[fleet tangle]

Did you know? A lot of people are allergic to bananas and don't know it. They just think the reaction in their mouth is "how it's meant to be" because of things like pineapples.

[deep copper]

i heard there are people allergic to water, but they can drink it fine, it's their skin

[zinc matrix]

even when sweating?

[deep copper]

no idea, i didn't read the article full

[zinc matrix]

if i could not eat fruits, i would not be vegan i guess

i can not eat gluten, but that is a rarely a problem

[deep copper]

that, sounds like you have quite a limited option then

[foggy path]

hehe

tbh as long as it's small amounts it's mostly fine

[zinc matrix]

even juices?

[foggy path]

so it's not like I have to really watch out for it

[deep copper]

gluten , is in milk ?

or bread ?

[zinc matrix]

wheat

[fleet tangle]

Bread mostly.

Milk is the lactose stuff.

[deep copper]

you are definitely missing out on a wide variety of vegan diet

[foggy path]

I have adult onset lactose intolerance so that's also fun lol

Didn't have it as a kid, have it as an adult

:P

[zinc matrix]

my grandmother has lactose disease”

[foggy path]

Thankfully we have a good selection of lactose free products here so it doesn't really affect things much

[zinc matrix]

i think i will never discover

[foggy path]

Just can't eat too much chocolate or get the shits

[zinc matrix]

but you can get some medicine to digest

my gluten is like, cross contamination of particles minor than 20ppm are enough to my body produce hormones

ppm = parts per million

[foggy path]

if it was lactose it'd be more like FARTS PER MILLION

[zinc matrix]

a flock of bread has way more than 20pmm

[foggy path]

[fleet tangle]

A flock of bread?

[zinc matrix]

hmm

little fragments?

[foggy path]

the band famous for their song "I Ran"?

[zinc matrix]

in portuguese is called migalha

[fleet tangle]

Speck?

[zinc matrix]

but i have no idea the english word

[fleet tangle]

A mote of bread!

[mossy nexus]

flock is a word to describe a lot of birds or example. A flock of geese. 🙂

[deep copper]

wait how did you eat burgers before then

[zinc matrix]

”crumb” ?

[zinc matrix]

till i was 14

i had a delay of growth, my bone age was around 9-10 years old when i was 14

i entered purberty around 17

[tulip orbit]

haha. bone. ahem, sorry.

[zinc matrix]

?

[tulip orbit]

I became lactose intolerant in my mid 20s I think?

[zinc matrix]

Bone age is an indicator of the skeletal and biological maturity of an individual. This is different from chronological age, which is calculated using the date of birth of an individual.

just in case

[foggy path]

Yeah same for me. Apparently this is somewhat common

[deep copper]

that's scary

[foggy path]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tulip orbit]

its annoying. Ice cream is so delicious

[foggy path]

We got lots of lactose free ice creams here but yeah

[deep copper]

even ice cream?!

[zinc matrix]

vegan ice cream is really close to the real thing

try it once

[foggy path]

I've tried some vegan ice creams and they lack that something or at least the ones I've tried did

[deep copper]

there's non vegan ice cream?!

[foggy path]

It's hard to describe what it's missing but there's just something that doesn't give the same feeling as eating regular ice cream

[tulip orbit]

gas?

[foggy path]

Milk is an animal product... :P

[zinc matrix]

i tried one made out of nuts (i think the major was almond), chocolate taste and it was really equal my previous memories

[deep copper]

ah right,

[zinc matrix]

but i never liked sweet stuff too much

[deep copper]

there is almond milk right

or do i remember wrong

[foggy path]

But yeah there are also lactase pills you can take which help digest lactase

[zinc matrix]

yes

[zinc matrix]

there is. its good but like 3x the price compared to regular milk 😦

for me the best vegetal milk is out of coconut

[tulip orbit]

I drink the "Silk" brand, I think its soy milk. Its good for with cereal

[foggy path]

Oh yeah, and apparently there's some mad scientist on youtube who genetically altered himself to fix his lactose intolerance

[zinc matrix]

but it has to be homemade, as the industrial one are too watery

[tulip orbit]

I haate coconut milk, just cant stand it

[foggy path]

His body produced lactase enzymes for 6 months and he was able to eat foods with lactose just fine apparently

I don't know the details as someone was just telling me about this guy but... yeah sounds kinda mad lol

[fleet tangle]

There's this super low calorie / low sugar caramel coffee flavour almond milk at a supermarket around here.

It's absolutely delicious.

[zinc matrix]

its nuts

[zinc matrix]

interesting they add calcium

[deep copper]

gotta add everything to compete with normal milk

[zinc matrix]

there is this misconception of calcium deficit on veg diets but what happens is your body adapting to lower intakes over time and absorving calcium and keeping it at a better rate than non veg ppl

but it takes time, i do not remember the paper, but it is the same process of epa to dha fat acids convertion on veg vs. non veg ppl

[fleet tangle]

Doesn't just have to be for vegetarians, though, right? Or vegans.

[zinc matrix]

veg = vegans

[fleet tangle]

I'd drink that over normal milk if I could be bothered to go buy it.

[zinc matrix]

actually the right nomenclature

a vegan person follows a vegetarian diet

if you eat eggs you add the prefix ovo

milk, lacto

lacto-ovo-vegetarian

[fleet tangle]

Vegetarian has 2 definitions. One as a noun and one as an adjective.

"vegetarian diet" being hte adjective.

[zinc matrix]

but ppl use vegetarian as ppl who eat eggs and milk but it is wrong

[fleet tangle]

Quite correct.

I don't see how people can be "vegetarian" out of moral choice, but still eat eggs, fish, milk etc.

[foggy path]

a vegan person follows a vegan diet to be precise... the distinction is that vegans don't eat any animal products whereas vegetarians do milk, eggs, honey and what have you

[fleet tangle]

Are chickens and fish not cute enough for you not to eat them?!

[zinc matrix]

nope, a vegan follows a vegetarian diet along not using animal derived stuff like clothes, vehicle tyres etc.

[foggy path]

Isn't that what I said lol

[zinc matrix]

but internet ppl just started the otherwise

and it stayed

but the correct nomenclature would be using the prefix i mentioned

[fleet tangle]

English is an evolving language. And it's "defined" by what's in the dictionaries.

If the dictionary says you're wrong, you're wrong.

[zinc matrix]

which dictionary?

[fleet tangle]

Of course, there are colloquialisms that haven't made it in there yet.

Take your pick.

[zinc matrix]

what if i start to manipulate kids into this nomenclature in my game?

[foggy path]

I googled it and all of them seem to suggest that vegan diet is called a vegan diet

[zinc matrix]

and then i reverse the logic?

[fleet tangle]

Probably the Oxford English Dictionary would be a popular one? Meriam Webster?

[foggy path]

the lacto-ovo nomenclature also exists of course, but "vegan" is just the catch-all top level term

[zinc matrix]

yeah but the root is the prefix thing

[fleet tangle]

The point is, the definition of English isn't so set in stone that there's even a single source of authority.

[foggy path]

THat's why french is superior

lol

[fleet tangle]

French is merde.

[zinc matrix]

vegan is idealism not a diet

anyway

vegan diet

meat heads

[fleet tangle]

"a vegan diet"```

[zinc matrix]

soon it would be just diet

no need of prefixes

[fleet tangle]

Sure there are.

Because there are many kinds of diet.

And there are also several definitions of the word diet itself.

[foggy path]

actually vegetarian diet isn't called vegetarian diet, it's called diet without meat, poultry or fish

a vegetarian is just a person who eats diet without meat poultry or fish

lol

[zinc matrix]

whatever

people just need to reduce consumption of these things

[fleet tangle]

UK's government website disagrees with you, zomg: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/how-to-eat-a-balanced-diet/the-vegetarian-diet/

[zinc matrix]

or hop on my boat and stop 100%

[clear cape]

it is called silly life, just like no beer (i'm allergic to it)

:3

[foggy path]

The only correct diet is the Monster diet

[fleet tangle]

The only correct diet is bacon.

[zinc matrix]

are you celiac?

[zinc matrix]

i wonder when they will start to mix lab animal protein with vegetables

[clear cape]

nope

[zinc matrix]

imagine a beef out of beans and bacon?

oh yes

[clear cape]

3d printed out of proteins

[zinc matrix]

i was reading an AMA at Reddit and there was this scientist chatting about that

[fleet tangle]

Don't they already have "fake-on" for bacon?

It used to be pretty bad.

[zinc matrix]

it is way more reliable and easy to mix vegetables proteins than doing lab meat

[fleet tangle]

And the 3d printed proteins are like 234234234 per burger or something still?

[zinc matrix]

what?

3d printed stuff smells like a bunch of chemicals to glue everything together

why not eat the real thing?

[fleet tangle]

Idk. Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

[zinc matrix]

if you want some imagery you can leave Blender open at the desired mesh

[fleet tangle]

There was definitely a company producing artificial meat.

[zinc matrix]

or Maya

[fleet tangle]

The first cultured beef burger patty was created by Mark Post at Maastricht University in 2013.[52] It was made from over 20,000 thin strands of muscle tissue, cost over $300,000 and needed 2 years to produce

[zinc matrix]

and do you know these things are not vegan?

we still need real placenta from animals to produce lab stuff

[fleet tangle]

Shrug

[zinc matrix]

of course, way less suffering, but still

i was never into chemical stuff

[foggy path]

What even is "real animal" if it's all grown in a vat lol

[zinc matrix]

my parents treated me with a pretty natural diet my entire life

[foggy path]

and never actually reaches the point in development where it resembles anything

[fleet tangle]

Cultured meat doiesn't have to resemble anything, as long as it tastes nice!

[zinc matrix]

sounds like someone needs jordan peterson diet. ive heard it even cures depression

[fleet tangle]

I'm sure it does.

[zinc matrix]

meat eating ppl suffer from less mental disease than vegs

sounds pretty boring diet tbh

that peterson one

but i think is just because the way the world os organized more or less

it is really sad to believe in animal welfare when people are promoting beef all day long diets

come on, if you are not rich you are out of luck on this one

[fleet tangle]

To be honest, it may not be that people who are vegs are more prone to mental disease, but that people more prone to mental diseases become vegans.

Or it may just be a complete coincidence.

[zinc matrix]

we know so little about the mind and nutrition

there is some imcomplete conclusions on how certain vitamins are synthesised up to today

let alone the all the roles they play on us

i was watching a video of the britsh army testing LSD-25 on their troops

20th century research be like:

[foggy path]

Any kind of diet that goes on any extreme is probably not great :p

All those products like Soylent somehow disappeared after a while

I think there might be still some of those out there but they definitely stopped getting any media attention

[zinc matrix]

i do not think a vegan diet is extreme

but a raw vegan one is

[fleet tangle]

"raw vegan" ?

[zinc matrix]

uncooked things only

sorry for the xenophobic commentary, but totally a hippie north american idiocracy

[fleet tangle]

Is it somehow offensive to the plants to cook them first?

[zinc matrix]

instead of cheap and available cooked protein like soybeans or beans, they eat nuts instead

wtf

idk their motifs

bit it maybe is something related to “how humans were in the past” or some bullshit

[fleet tangle]

Nuts have a shitload of fat in them. It can't be that healthy.

[zinc matrix]

so, synthesised vitamins = bad, but synthesised drug = heck yea! never understood that logic 🙂

jk ™️

[fleet tangle]

Synthesised vitamins aren't natural, man!

[zinc matrix]

it depends

lsd-25 is a subproduct of a fungus acting on wheat

n-bome variations, are pure from chemicals

which is a cheap to produce, less stable molecule, very close to the lsd

very common to find on streets

[fleet tangle]

I think you know far too much about LSD.

[zinc matrix]

it is always nice to research before using something

but i read the book about Hoffman “my problematic child”

which he reflects on its discovery

and some pessoal stuff of him

nice read, really non technical and short

maybe 100 or 200 pages

[deep copper]

food is so complicated!

[zinc matrix]

and political

[deep copper]

i love you

jk ofc

[gusty star]

Weirdly the term psychedelic was invented by a Canadian, and it was in part due to Tommy Douglas (The OG socialist responsible for Canada Public Healthcare system), as the first government backed studies on LSD were undertaken in Saskatchewan in the 1950s lmao, in a broader effort to advance medicine (but it tapered off by the 1970s).

Tho research has started to take off again with like MAPS and all that

(psychedelic was coined while in correspondence with none other than Aldous Huxley)

[zinc matrix]

okay, i think i found joy

maybe because my backpack has mushrooms on it

who knows

if you want to find joy (or not). i could recommend a game called we happy few 🙂

[deep copper]

if you want to find joy well-

[zinc matrix]

I start my game development course in two days

[zinc matrix]

Omg

That's such a good game

took me 4 days to realize i was diving into a very depressed state

believe or not, the only social time i have is here

the only other person i talk from time to time is giovanna but the direction things are going, i can say it is going really bad

we never went into a relationship despite we known each other since kids days

now we feel ready, but there is this on going dialect of to not or have children

so for my sake, i decided that i should at least return here

oh and there is my parents and my sister

which are not a health relationship too...

all we do is play overcooked together, but since i bought it on steam, (last year), we got 70 minutes of gameplay

[gusty star]

lol

[zinc matrix]

and my sister is super mad at me right now

mom and dad are travelling and she wanted to throw a party

and i was: NO WAY THAT NON VEGAN PEOPLE WILL GET TOGETHER MAKING NOISE THE WHOLE NIGHT

i am warning our parents

[gusty star]

probably the better idea not the throw the party while your parents are gone, in their house

[zinc matrix]

and of course, they hate parties when they are not here

if my sister friends were nice

but it is a bunch of late teenagers that make too much noise for the fun they are having

[gusty star]

I mean thats most teenagers. Do they break and/or steal shit? ie are they hooligans lmao?

[zinc matrix]

i tried to coop last time, but it was horrible

hahaha

i do not believe they steal or break things

they are just over noisy for my taste

[gusty star]

well that maybe mightve been a chill party but better to err on the side of caution, as they say.

[zinc matrix]

oh no, they are effervescent

my friends were, get together, watch a movie or play video-games

they are, lets throw the volume of the soundsystem at maximum and dance

and get over drunk

[gusty star]

ah so rowdy

they get rowdy

[deep copper]

i feel really fortunate that everyone at my place is antisocial with their friends.

[gusty star]

I threw a banger one time

whole grade 12 class came to my house

tho my ping-pong table got broken and someone stole my brothers long board.

and my parents were pissed

[deep copper]

geez

[zinc matrix]

last time i throwed a banger

i got super stressed because they were abusing the soundsystem here, which is really powerful

[gusty star]

finna blow my speakers

[zinc matrix]

and somehow, the ac unit started to drip water and the television went bad, since it is right on top of it

but i think it was just badluck

i really doubt someone managed to break it physically

[deep copper]

3+ not close people is way too many in the house

[zinc matrix]

my parents went so mad when they discovered about it

[gusty star]

the ac leaking water sounds bad, but that could be any number of things. they are kinda finicky, as far as I know.

[deep copper]

probably just the shaking from noise did it

[zinc matrix]

it was a really hot day

anyway, it got fixed afterwards

[gusty star]

hmm, coulda been working overdrive. if you pop open the windows with it on, it can tax it too much i think

[zinc matrix]

but i think the tube that was draining water went bad

[gusty star]

tho maybe like AU is saying, too many people

ah yeah just wear-and-tear

[zinc matrix]

idk , i think the people who installed were just dumb

[deep copper]

i know people that use ACs with doors open

like wth

[gusty star]

lol waste of energy honestly

[zinc matrix]

we tend to use ac units here very sparsely and usually without too much difference from the normal temperature

[deep copper]

it won't even get cold fast enough

[zinc matrix]

definitely not a wear and tear case

[gusty star]

my house has central air, but we only ever use it on 30 celsius plus days

Tho it did break (?) but my stepdad fixed it. Something about a pole switch not flipping properly

[zinc matrix]

my dad is now into installing a heater that goes over the walls with solar energy

he wants to do it

[gusty star]

Idk my stepdad and his brother-in-law have some wierd amount of knowledge of electrical circuits and shit?? idk

[zinc matrix]

he loves diy stuff

[deep copper]

yeah i was thinking, you normally aren't supposed to know how to do it

[zinc matrix]

mine is a mechanical engineer who thinks he can build rockets

[gusty star]

i know what you were saying but im dodgign that xD

[zinc matrix]

no wonder why we need to throw the super kart they managed to build

[deep copper]

as long as he has fun

[zinc matrix]

and i discovered that the kart i used to drive, was 25 hp

[deep copper]

a flat earther that built rocket died 😢 , watch out

[zinc matrix]

and one of the brothers sold all the units we had

[gusty star]

My stepdad is a coffee account manager (who also repaired the machines at one point but now he just does accounts) and his brother-in-law owns a satellite and cellular store.

[zinc matrix]

without any of the others brothers knowing

hahaha

he was so pissed of remembering that

[deep copper]

a satellite?!

[gusty star]

well its a misnomer. Like satellite and cable lmao, all telecom tech

[deep copper]

that's understandable

[zinc matrix]

they just abandoned the hobby after a while

and i was the one suffering, i loved that machines

[gusty star]

Tho my biological fatha was a mechanic who rebuilt engines and shiet, mans was wild in his mechanical knowledge.

[deep copper]

don't think, just have fun

[zinc matrix]

if i manage to build some planets in my game, i want to make a easter egg warning that planets are not flat

but i could not be able to set up a spheroid navmesh

[gusty star]

you can literally make a drawing that disproves the flat earth theory smh

[deep copper]

don't worry, flat is justice!

[zinc matrix]

but i think i am releasing only the inside the spaceship version

so much work

[gusty star]

you just need two towers, some distance apart, and you draw lines from the bottom and top to each other in a criss-cross fashion. idk it wouldn't work the way it does without curvature

like ships coming over the horizon? ya know

flat earthers just be ignorant

dunning-kruger strikes again

[zinc matrix]

you just need to understand that some guy were killed because of reaching that conclusion

enough

[gusty star]

yeah and people are killed for myriad other arbitrary reasons.

hell Galileo was shut down by the church

[deep copper]

i have heard more people die from stubbing their toe than guns in america

[gusty star]

people get killed by vending machines!

monke brain strikes again

[zinc matrix]

people were arrested because pinball machines at some point!!!!

[deep copper]

kill me ted ! that way we can be the first to do it via chat

[zinc matrix]

but it was before the flippers

[gusty star]

I'd tell you the funniest joke in the world but you'd die AU, itd be awful! also I won't die because I obvs don't have a sense of humour.

[deep copper]

you are a killer with that humour i suppose!

[gusty star]

:)

[deep copper]

what would you do if i said kiss me ?

i didn't say it, note

[gusty star]

I just thought of the wildest joker re-boot in history

(well maybe not)

Have you heard of the greek letter Sugma?

[deep copper]

i will take it

sugma ?

[gusty star]

im jk im not finishin that joke

its dumb

[deep copper]

alright alright xD i think i know what it is

[gusty star]

that not the joke tho, I didn't have one in mind tbh.

[zinc matrix]

is not sigma?

[gusty star]

I'm really not that funny. My younger brother is really funny but he has ADHD and I swear thats a comedy superpower.

[zinc matrix]

sexdrive tank

salchicha would mean dick here

[gusty star]

ah, lmao!

[zinc matrix]

or a heavily processed food

[gusty star]

but phrasing ofc

[deep copper]

language barrier agh !

[deep copper]

as long as you laugh when i tickle you, i guess it's fine?

[gusty star]

hmm, the one joke that really comes to mind when I think of my brother being funny (but its really dark and potentially offensive): is || If I were Schindler you wouldn't be on my list ||

esp. cuz most of this stuff is off the cuff, in the moment lol

[zinc matrix]

if au looked like their profile picture, i would take them on a backpack wherever i go

[deep copper]

i don't know what that means , google time !

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-cute-gif-22208331

[deep copper]

too bad I don't lol

[zinc matrix]

yoooooo

[zinc matrix]

i laugh everytime i see your pp

[deep copper]

note !" when " i didn't actually do it

[zinc matrix]

it is like a elf sticking love everywhere

[deep copper]

i don't know if it's an elf actually,but it does have green hair

[north basalt]

Hello 👋

I'm looking for a teammate to play Coop in Splinter Cell Blacklist

Anyone available? 😳

[zinc matrix]

i have overcooked and biped

[deep copper]

google is not helping 😭

[zinc matrix]

but everytime i play online, people tend to quit

i am too bad it

specially on overcooked

online ppl are ninja

[gusty star]

explanation: || Schindler's List is a movie by Stephen Spielberg about the holocaust. Oscar Schindler employs jewish people at his factory thru a Nazi program, in part to divert them from the camps and offer them a slightly better life, as he isn't a Nazi. Saying he wouldn't put me on his list is saying he'd let the nazis kill me looooool. quite dark. ||

He said this back when we were teens tho and he isn't as rank, usually anyway

[deep copper]

ah i see

that took me a long time to understand actually lol

[gusty star]

|| he also laughed hysterically during the scene in Inglorious Basterds where they shoot hitler with the MP-40 and his face looks like play-doh/plasticine being deformed lol. in the theatre lmao. so idk hes an odd duck. ||

[deep copper]

||hitler was also shot by others ?||

[zinc matrix]

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[gusty star]

|| in taratinos movie, yes, hes gunned down by american agents. IRL he shot himself before the soviets got to him ||

[deep copper]

such niche use cases

[deep copper]

so the movie isn't based on reality?

[gusty star]

Not at all lol

[deep copper]

i never thought someone would use that as a character only to write something different

[gusty star]

Taratino is the master of popular appeal. he also steals a lot from other directors, not recent ones tho (like his contemporaries). moreso older stuff he likes. He watches a lot of movies and worked in a film store prior to being a director (where he argued about movies lol)

imo

[deep copper]

ohh

[gusty star]

I think he understands pop culture really well and perhaps knew what sold well at one point

but his early work is ambitious and I think he writes his own material so

like pulp fiction, despite the meme about it being the go to "cool" movie thats not that cool, is pretty complex in terms of chronological structure

and it flows well enough, it can be kind of hard to follow but ye

[deep copper]

i don't think i have seen anything made by them

[celest musk]

you know what else got green hair?

https://tenor.com/view/doug-maclean-doug-maclean-mac-kyper-gif-26089921

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-seriously-wtf-what-huh-gif-21812231

[deep copper]

never seen this either xD

[zinc matrix]

how!?? 😄

[deep copper]

do you wanna touch it ?

i can dye

[celest musk]

you misspelled one word

[broken sigil]

lol

[deep copper]

you can dye it for me*?

exactly why i left game dev

the stress is not worth it

[broken sigil]

I play Siege/apex/rocket league because it's relaxing said no sane person ever lol

[gusty star]

valorant too lmao

[deep copper]

literally got stressed a few days back without doing anything

[gusty star]

last time I played Valorant competitive it gave me a headache (it was fairly minor tho, but still there)

Ye I try to take it ez on caffeine these days. I feel that tho lol.

[deep copper]

i tried coffee once, felt really weird the whole day

[celest musk]

maaaaaaaaybe you should drink it more

and you have been normal for once?

[gusty star]

I like Yerba Mate these days. Similar amount of caffiene to coffee.

plus you can make ice tea with it hehe

tho Guayaki brand Yerba Mate ice tea is expensive, tho it is delicious

[deep copper]

i will drink one cup for every hug you give me

[celest musk]

so 0

[deep copper]

i drank it once, remember? 😉

[zinc matrix]

i used to drink alot when i was younger. like 3 for morning to wake up + whatever during the day. probably ~10.
now i get that weird feeling and shakes from one cup 🥲

but i sleep better, so i guess its not that bad

[deep copper]

isn't coffee supped to wake you up

[gusty star]

ye but it doesn't really

[deep copper]

supposed

[gusty star]

it just binds to the neurotransmitter/receptor that makes you feel sleepy or something like this (among other things)

[celest musk]

well, it increases heart rate, doesn't it?

unless you are used to it

[deep copper]

so, sleepy and fast heart...

[gusty star]

hmm no wtf was it

[deep copper]

it really doesn't sound all that good of a deal 🙂

this auto emoji conversion isn't bad 😄

❤️

[gusty star]

okay yeah sorry

[celest musk]

🍇

[gusty star]

caffiene binds to adenosine receptors, stopping the ever-increasing amount of adenosine from making you feel tired.

thats why you crash

[deep copper]

ah, so each time ben sends 😄 he types 😄

[gusty star]

suddenly theres a lot of adenosine and available receptors

where previously there was zilcho, atleast according to the receptors. atleast in my simplified understanding

[deep copper]

that sounds terrifying

[gusty star]

I guess lol

[celest musk]

that sounds good

tbh

baaam, sleep

i wish it was like that

[deep copper]

i like to fantasize about you first

[gusty star]

theres also other confounding effects tho, like tolerance, etc

[zinc matrix]

you also get horrible headaches if you dont have coffee for couple days 🙂

[gusty star]

yep

[deep copper]

that's really like a drug

[gusty star]

I'm pretty sure it happenned to Tarn Adams (of dwarf fortress fame) with soda even

[celest musk]

had this waaaay to often

[gusty star]

I imagine some people are more sensitive to it then others

[zinc matrix]

because it is 😛

[deep copper]

maybe you should lay off of coffee now 😄

[gusty star]

i definently get cravings, not headaches tho.

[celest musk]

so you want me to get a headache?

[deep copper]

you are my drug

[deep copper]

if you don't drink it, you will never get it ?

[gusty star]

also people differ in their sensitivity to the ill effects of some things, like alcohol.

[celest musk]

if i keep drinking it neither

[gusty star]

if you flush a lot and get ill, you probably shouldn't drink much (assuming you're over age and legally allowed too)

[deep copper]

it's just the first few days from drug , recoil (?)

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-gun-shoulder-pain-fail-gif-12160568

this is recoil

[deep copper]

ouch

yeha i know

i just couldn't think of a word for drug withdrawal stuff

where you stop drug suddenly

[celest musk]

but that fits quite well actually

[zinc matrix]

yea, good coffee kicks like that

[gusty star]

ye

[celest musk]

well, it was about the headache 😄

[deep copper]

so you all just love to be kicked ? i can do that too

[celest musk]

from withdrawal

[gusty star]

its sketchy but uh, theres even some medications where the after-effects include symptom rebound (which can be intensified 😬)

[celest musk]

yea, 2-3 days headache

[deep copper]

see, no coffee = better ben

[celest musk]

and you can counter it with an aspirin 😄

but they have caffeine, too. sometimes

[deep copper]

that sounds like some dependency hell

[celest musk]

so kinda cheaty

maybe thats why it works so well....

[deep copper]

is that a medicine for it or a pill with it

[celest musk]

just dont drink/eat anything

[gusty star]

its literally just caffeine + a binding agent

[deep copper]

so just a pill with it

[gusty star]

ye

[deep copper]

water ..? don't people die without it in 3 days ?

[gusty star]

coffee dehydrates you if you don't drink it regularly (diuretic) but it doesn't if you drink it regularly (ie its hydrating for regs).

[celest musk]

it's probably tough, but may also depend on your workload

[deep copper]

this keeps getting worse

[celest musk]

i guess there are people who did a week without water

some monks