#lounge

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noble plaza
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At that point, current $$ is irrelevant compared to long term career progression

edgy ice
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Guaranteed growth and mostly unionized

noble plaza
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Yeah for backbreaking labour in many cases, and a frequently toxic work culture

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No such thing as easy money. If there was, everyone would be making it 😜

edgy ice
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Maybe, Im only speaking from secondhand perspective from friends who went that direction

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Small sample size, sure

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But they all are doing pretty good for themselves and don't complain much about their jobs

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I made the poor life decision of going to college

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Lol

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Final semester coming up tho so I can't complain too hard.

noble plaza
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Nothing wrong with pursuing higher education, opens up quite a few doors

edgy ice
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I made good stonk money, before the crash

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Really good stonks

noble plaza
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Knew you were 12.

Get back to your Lua scripting!

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Stonks == literally any stonks for about 2 years lol

COVID was great for stock markets

edgy ice
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Now all my stocks are long term static stocks and an ETF

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Slow growth but I was barely hit by the crash

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Though recession means I'm basically bag holding for another few years.

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Earlier this year when inflation shot up 8% and everyone was losing money left and right

noble plaza
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The ongoing one? Around March this year

edgy ice
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Lol

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Yea

noble plaza
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Nah most stocks, especially tech

edgy ice
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I basically predicted this would happen so I shifted my entire portfolio to anything long term and emerging

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And I dumped into VOO

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Just basically anything to stabilize

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Actually it wasn't even the war, I knew we were gonna crash because we had billions given for free

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Then stimmies were loans

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Money gotta come from somewhere

slim atlas
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Stooop 😞

noble plaza
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  • COVID stock pumps because people had nothing else to spend money on, and suddenly travel was becoming a thing again
slim atlas
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You are depressing

edgy ice
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I knew that after the pandemic blew over we were gonna have an economic low, I wasn't expecting a full on crash but hey

slim atlas
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Go away

edgy ice
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You are depressed*

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FTFY

slim atlas
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πŸ˜‡

noble plaza
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RB

slim atlas
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I am an angel

edgy ice
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Hah

slim atlas
edgy ice
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I did travel a lot this past year

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Mostly vagrant style, bit of hitchhiking, Flixbus and anything else cheap

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<\3

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Kek, nah that's all I was gonna say

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Trying to keep the chat rolling

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That nap ruined my sleep for the night, I'm wide awake

slim atlas
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Youre a bad blueprint

edgy ice
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Sometimes

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Other times im a C++ script that won't compile

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:U

slim atlas
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So bad code in general

edgy ice
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I'm doing great in c++,I never said I was good c++, sire.

slim atlas
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When i try to execute you... It returns null

edgy ice
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Meaning I am unexecutable, meaning I am immortal

slim atlas
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No

edgy ice
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Buahuahua.

slim atlas
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It means youre invalid

edgy ice
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Not yet, my spine works fine

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Maybe when I'm old

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But when I'm old I'ma get a sweet cane sword

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And a crow.

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That would be sick.

broken sigil
edgy ice
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It ain't much, but it's honest errors

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Kek

broken sigil
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Sounds like a perfectly valid and stable program to me

edgy ice
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It's a feature, not a bug.

deep copper
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you just aren't updated enough with modern hardware to execute it

edgy ice
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One day I will be updated with vulkan, for now I am but an OpenGL 3.0

supple apex
deep copper
deep copper
supple apex
deep copper
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i am wondering if that's true, doesn't seem so but still

edgy ice
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No sire, I am not related to anyone

deep copper
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i see i see, my mistake!

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we can be related if you want

edgy ice
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I am but a poor slav, a Polak without a name, damned to carry these pierogi

edgy ice
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Man now I want pierogi.

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The midnight munchies are real man

supple apex
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I actually gotta do google-fu on it, it's dumplings?

edgy ice
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Essentially. Polish dumplings

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Usually filled with cheese, meat or mushrooms

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Usually served with butter and fried onion

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+herbs if you're fancy

deep copper
deep copper
edgy ice
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It is good, honestly

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A lot of Slavic food can be summarized as "not the best looking thing, not exactly made with the fanciest methods or ingredients, but pretty much delicious and wholesome"

deep copper
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that is how food should be tbh

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i feel i am using tbh a lot

edgy ice
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Kielbasa, Pyzy, Karkowka, Goulash, Golabki, Bigos, Schab, kotlety

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Just listing random stuff off the top of my head

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All pretty good food

deep copper
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it sounds like names of places xD

edgy ice
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Polish is just weird like that, like most Slavic places

supple apex
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Just eat goulash soup yesterday, didn't realize it was slavic.

edgy ice
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It's technically not, it's....European.

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Lol

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There's a Slavic version of it but it's origin is....Turkish(?)

deep copper
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the meat their is karkowka

supple apex
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Ah, ok, carry on with your food list~

edgy ice
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God I love Karkowka.

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It's agony to make edible but when it is

noble plaza
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@edgy ice but have you had khinkali? God tier dumplings TBH

edgy ice
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Im lazy so I usually just dump a whole cut of it in a bowl with some seasonings, onion, vodka and garlic

noble plaza
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Or sirok, miss those yum balls

edgy ice
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Leave it to marinate overnight

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And fry them

edgy ice
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Yea Ive had khinkali before, good stuff

supple apex
edgy ice
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Uhhh....I forget the word for it but basically yes.

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I know Karkowka is pork....shoulder...?

noble plaza
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AU bringing #food to us SMH

deep copper
edgy ice
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I grew up in a polish household there's literally words I don't know/remember how they are in English lol

deep copper
supple apex
edgy ice
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It's shoulder iirc

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So it's tough

deep copper
edgy ice
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You either cut against the grain in thin slices or you marinade it in a lightly acidic marinade to break down the meat

edgy ice
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Or you slow roast it

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My go-to lazy marinade is just onion, seasonings, vodka and garlic in a bowl for a few hours

noble plaza
deep copper
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xD*

noble plaza
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Sometimes they wrap the top with a (chive?) chute, just to flex

edgy ice
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I'm a bit biased when it comes to herbs and being fancy, I grow my own herbs

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So to me it's not fancy at all

deep copper
deep copper
edgy ice
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I have a small herb garden with dill, chives, 3 kinds of basil, tyme, rosemary, 2 types of mint(chocolate mint is godly), and I just planted sage

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They're pretty low maintenance, just water, good soil and a windowsill

noble plaza
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My gf has like a hundred plants and none usable smh

edgy ice
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Grow your own herbs, it'll change your life

noble plaza
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They look nice but can't even get a lil much out of any of them

edgy ice
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Herbs on demand is the best stuff

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Plus garden grown plants just taste better, personally.

deep copper
edgy ice
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Cow poop.

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No really, just get some manure and plants grow just fine

noble plaza
deep copper
slim atlas
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i dare you

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to insult me in code

noble plaza
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But also, you're more likely to over-water than under-water, so if starts looking a bit shaky maybe just let it decide its own destiny for a lil bit lol

edgy ice
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Yea kinda.

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Some plants are far less maintenance

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Dill grows like a weed man

deep copper
slim atlas
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no

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blueprint coder are not coder.

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they are schoolkids

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go back to mum!

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real men code in rust

edgy ice
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Spoken like a true asura

slim atlas
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come at me, in code!

deep copper
slim atlas
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i have to be stopped

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DO SOMETHING

deep copper
slim atlas
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you have to protect the other junior coders toxic!!!!

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YOUR COLLEAGUES

deep copper
edgy ice
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Why waste my energy making insulting code when I can instead not do that and spare me the energy

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:U

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@deep copper like a weed, not like weed

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I don't have a plant.....yet.

slim atlas
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Dill next time...

edgy ice
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It's legal here in NY, I might as well pick up a plant.

edgy ice
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Hell yea bruddah

slim atlas
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The entire ue4 community:

edgy ice
noble plaza
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UE4

Cringe AF bro

slim atlas
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this couldve been prevented guys

deep copper
slim atlas
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but you didnt want to stop me

deep copper
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i wanted to hug you

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that's all

slim atlas
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HUG DON STOP EVIL

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I AM EVIL

deep copper
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why would i stop evil

edgy ice
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I'm using UE5 so, yea rip UE4 ig.

slim atlas
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i am just messing with you, you couldnt ever stop me from destroying the entire world AHHAHAHAAHAHAH

edgy ice
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Knock yourself out, champ

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I win either way

slim atlas
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You probably code on godot πŸš“

edgy ice
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MIT license and a cult community that knows every little thing about the engine?

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And C#?

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Sure why not

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:U

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UE5 is better tho

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Lumen is still blowing my mind to this day

slim atlas
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it only looks better.

edgy ice
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I dunno man, not needing to bake lights and UV maps is pretty sick ngl

slim atlas
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you dont need todo that since ue4

edgy ice
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My point still stands

slim atlas
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No it especially doesnt

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because you wouldnt need to switch to ue5

edgy ice
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Whatever you say, asura.

slim atlas
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i get the idea here yes

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ue5 has neat ideas

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but ue4 is still very good

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ill leave for work now you handsome very polite and well hyginated people ❀️

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πŸ«‚

deep copper
regal pecan
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Too expensive for modern consoles probably

deep copper
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you are amazing <3

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warn me before the block πŸ’’
3 strike system, and cooldown on 30 days

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then, hug me before each block..

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actually, don't

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then if you hug that would mean i am blocked

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hmm, you didn't take the bait, i thought you would add a hug as a joke

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you can still do it ofc

cursive crypt
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Controversial, latest Assassin's creed games are not about assassin.

proud jay
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look at all those feedback forum posts being rejected

supple apex
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Not really a fan of having to do multiple logins just to play a game.

proud jay
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also Denuvo is just worthless

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the games are properly pirated on day 1 anyway

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at least they used to be

supple apex
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Laura found a better way to express my concern πŸ‘

proud jay
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haven't looked into game pirating since a long time

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anyway it's shit to make the experience for all players worse, just to prevent some pirating

cursive crypt
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Not a fan of anti-pirating installing a windows service running non stop.

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Is fine, devs will close their servers at some point anyway. Kind of reminds me of something that happened recently πŸ€”

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As long as it is marketed as open world, I'm throwing money at them.

proud jay
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I hate the trend of everyone make 150h+ games

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even though it's just doing the same over and over

supple apex
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Anybody got a meme to represent best sarcasm of the day?

proud jay
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pls just give me a 15h game or so and charge me half the price

cursive crypt
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Wait, you don't like doing the same thing for 140 hours and then doing a 10h campaign, outrageous!

deep copper
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wait people login to play games ?

proud jay
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people play games?

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booted up crash 4 yesterday, they wanted a activision account lol

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luckily there was a skip option

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who would want that

deep copper
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makes me appreciate free softwares that are just "download" button and install

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creating accounts need such parkour moves

proud jay
cursive crypt
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ducking this

cursive crypt
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bandicoot ^

cursive crypt
# proud jay what

I'm using πŸ¦† πŸ¦† 🚢 not googling, therefore - ducking.

proud jay
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looks exactly the same

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I see

ancient ingot
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i hate phpeeeeee

proud jay
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gz

soft night
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php the lots of attack surface

deep copper
soft night
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one of the php compilers for dotnet is peachpie

cursive crypt
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mmm... peaches

knotty skiff
cursive crypt
knotty skiff
soft night
proud jay
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don't look up gifs for peach they're all quite sexualized

soft night
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you wish that link had thumbnail of peachpie

cursive crypt
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Screw you, I expected a recipe, not php

proud jay
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reciphp

soft night
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Peachrecipie

cursive crypt
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I have peaches, but no pie πŸ€”

soft night
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will πŸ‘ replace πŸ‡

knotty skiff
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I wish

proud jay
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no

knotty skiff
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NOO!!

soft night
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πŸ‘ πŸ₯§

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you could go to midjourney and make test will it

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!8ball will πŸ‘ replace πŸ‡ ?

turbid spindleBOT
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@soft night, :8ball: It is certain.

mossy nexus
fluid bloom
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oh for fuck's sake... some clueless dude designed a database schema for holding time series data for funds at the client I'm working at

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like... it's time series data, you have one table where some column is the value and time and the name of the fund, right?

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but noooo, the person who did this created different tables for all the different funds there are

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DB is full of tables that start with "fund_" prefix

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rant overish

deep copper
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"made the table, boss!"
well, atleast the data is there

cursive crypt
noble plaza
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Anyway, asked my lovely GF for a Dairy Milk, and she thought I wanted non-lactose free milk πŸ˜…
Normally get the lactose free one since she's intolerant and milk is milk, but that interpretation wasπŸ‘ŒπŸ‘ŒπŸ‘Œ

cold aspen
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!8ball will he ever be the same again?

turbid spindleBOT
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@cold aspen, :8ball: Outlook not so good.

cold aspen
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F

noble plaza
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zdarova πŸ‘‹

timber viper
proud jay
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emus

timber viper
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why the hell byzantine vassals side Ottoman skelewhy

deep copper
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that gun looks like a toy lol

proud jay
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what gun

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that's a lightsaber my man

noble plaza
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Just casting a wide net, the closest language I (did) speak is Russian πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ those more basic words tend to be similar with some smol variations

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Helps when I don't type in Cyrillic I'd assume πŸ˜›

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I picked it up as a kid, read Simpsons comics and Harry Potter books in it, and then never used it again pretty much

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I'm guessing you have played This War of Mine?

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I remember playing BF2 as a lil kid, till I got to a map I had been to IRL. The resemblance was kinda loose, but it was so harrowing I didn't play the game for months πŸ˜“

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Map was from Project Reality not vanilla, but a Georgian one - Mestia maybe?

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That + CoD 1, where your buddies had names. One had a Georgian one and I was so attached to him, I was running around protecting him. Then he got blown to bits πŸ™ƒ

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Bit more than been there haha, moved away after the whole fun thing a while ago though

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With IRL conflicts, the more recent they are the more sensitive and careful you're going to have to be in how you handle the topic as well. WWII is easier, no one that fought in it is watching video game trailers lol

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And with stories, is it going to be a story driven game? Even if it is, I think the gameplay would shape the story somewhat, so easier to start with a rough chart of the big events, and figure out the moment-to-moment stuff as you go

deep copper
noble plaza
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Is realistic a considerable end-goal, or is it fun/ interesting experiences?

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Like, the logical extreme of realism for a shooter is well, IRL. I can shoot maybe 0-1 people before I will feel sick and collapse from guilt or whatever. Yet I have no issues doing that a hundred times over in Battlefield and the likes

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I think Insurgency found a really good balance there, but it was driven big time by their intense audio design. It's a work of art πŸ’ͺ

supple apex
noble plaza
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UE basically assumes every game is a shooter lol, it's definitely built for it

deep copper
noble plaza
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Maybe start off with Lyra or ShooterGame if you don't want UE5 though

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UE5's not that different TBH. We get sleeker UI though

supple apex
noble plaza
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Only one way to find out! You can opt out of most of the fanciness introduced

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Grab ShooterGame and have a look at how they did it there. A fair few Steam games used that project as a base (and didn't rename their .exe lol)

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Yeah, it's like a fancy project template, bit more advanced than the normal templates but good to dive into at least

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Some of the stuff may be outdated mind you, I'm not sure if there's a better (free) FPS template around

proud jay
noble plaza
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I'm expecting this in the OST now, TYTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVWfqOSdzs4

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The band's Austrian and do some blend of Russian/German/Slav/random music. Fun stuff

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It slaps though, would recommend if you haven't heard it before

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Hmm, even the normal FPS template should have movement and all that then. If it's lagging because of FPS though, then outside of turning down scalability, there's always Godot πŸ˜„

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For ShooterGame specifically no, but you could compile it once and do everything from there onwards in Blueprints I guess. I'd rather look at the FPS template though, which should also work

deep copper
deep copper
supple apex
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!8ball is affectionate_user an AI?

turbid spindleBOT
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@supple apex, :8ball: Ask again later.

deep copper
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if i was i would be making cool art

supple apex
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Dang, even manny's covering the track.

supple apex
deep copper
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are you a super movie watcher?

deep copper
supple apex
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What's your spec and os?

deep copper
supple apex
deep copper
supple apex
deep copper
supple apex
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Should probably list the spec, somebody might give an advice about it.

proud jay
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also if you jsut started up it might be compiling shaders in the background

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which can severly reduce framerate

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edit what

supple apex
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@deep copper
Not an artist, not a game dev, not familiar with movie references, how did you arrive here AU? πŸ€”

proud jay
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you just edit stuff

deep copper
proud jay
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move things on map? edit blueprint? add code?

deep copper
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i believe there would be some stuff like "first hour in ue" or something

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idk the url

deep copper
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backstory: πŸ’―?

supple apex
proud jay
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or a mannequin?

deep copper
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my answer depends on your answer to, "do you want to touch mannequin? ? "

supple apex
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Does the question comes with a lawsuit? πŸ€”

deep copper
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no just , some duties

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wanna shake hands?

supple apex
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Thought shaking hands was banned since 2020.

deep copper
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it doesn't matter online!

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try it, if something bad happens, i will return all your handshakes!

primal summit
supple apex
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You know what, I'll give an upvote instead of a handshake.

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⬆️

cold aspen
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man

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Crashing hurts

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also, wanna read something?

supple apex
deep copper
cold aspen
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I mean yeah. Something that is "short. Around 1000 characters

supple apex
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Found a high heels though πŸ‘ 

deep copper
cold aspen
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love hotel?

cold aspen
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it's not that huge

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fine I'll yeet it here

supple apex
deep copper
cold aspen
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"As the King Caves in"

||I knew, glory is built upon this place. A labyrinth of caves to praise a god who sat on his throne, nothing left but voices, ice, and bones; even below his glorious statue that is filled with temptation and tainted ambition. His Statues, His Temples, His People, all fell into dust, on every ceiling, every stone, and every corruption preserved by the King's undying sins. Caves, built abrasively, tunnel deep through the helpless mind, where it loses itself with indecisive punishments in the dark. The glory it once was, it shook the earth and collapsed.||

||I shouldn’t be here. I need to leave.||

||I did, but I couldn’t. For many years, I desperately climbed to seek light, to see stars with the eyes of visions that laments my glory beyond the depths of the cities that are built. Above there is; Above there was.||

||Now. I am faced with the king who has revived from its deathly slumber, in its final confrontation against the mind's integrity, a monster in its humanized form that can’t be harmed. The last piece of this story, crumbling down with every fallen rock and scream of agony across the empty cave. The king, the dictator, the god, who have woefully controlled and conceived me over the years that I am unable to leave this recursive imprisonment; Alas, β€œYou are not needed anymore” as I said to his confident eyes in contempt. He froze into dust with his confident smile, slowly crumbling away into eternal rest.||

||I looked up to realize that I finally gained my freedom, a chance to see the light again. Everything in this world is falling apart, the world will be new and free. The ceiling shatters itself to shed light into this dark world for I don’t need to climb, I don’t need to run, I don’t need to survive. For I am the King.||

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Just need some critiques

celest musk
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you need more spoilers

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like spoiler every word

deep copper
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yeah ... well... i think we need someone who reads fast, any lauras around?

supple apex
primal summit
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so, stupid question... if I started my project in 4.26 and put maybe an hour into work in the engine and the rest planning on paper, should I upgrade to 5?

deep copper
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better? 🀝

cold aspen
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it's a fun read

supple apex
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As well as whether a stork is involved in the migration.

primal summit
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I don't really have much need for the new features of 5

supple apex
supple apex
primal summit
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πŸ—‘οΈ is nice

cold aspen
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are storks delicious? or just tastes like quail?

supple apex
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Was expecting to read a haiku level of text length, not several blocks of darkness.

cold aspen
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or maybe ducks

primal summit
cold aspen
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Haiku is cringe okay

supple apex
cold aspen
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too much rhymes

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So far I made 1 great short writing.

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it makes a writer's mind blow away

primal summit
supple apex
deep copper
supple apex
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How the heck do you compare a thumbs up with a 🏩 ? πŸ˜…

deep copper
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odd in the sequence

supple apex
solid hull
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Is anyone having trouble accessing their "Financial Info" on steamworks? I've had this broken captcha since yesterday.

Tried Chrome, Firefox, Edge, Safari on mobile. Deleted cookies, went off wifi on cellular data, etc.

timber viper
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try another web browser

proud jay
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and make sure you'er not getting scammed

timber viper
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dont wanna miss it

edgy ice
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give me the funny numbers on your moms card and the wacky numbers in the back

cold aspen
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"Revenge"

||Begging for shelter in the raging storm, I've finally found a hidden cave where no man can be found. The pitch black of the unknowns, speaking woes of death and fear, is observing through the blood of my coat. Fear is to anyone who has seen the light of day, but never to a souless wretched man who will step forth into the wandering darkness.||

||In the cold and unihabitable terrain of the caves, a glimmer of light shows itself as glowing mushrooms of hope. Such beauty, such gentle sight leading a route into the depths of peace. Followed its tranquil, I slipped. Fell into the darkness, further and futher, without the light to guide my path. The soul replenished from false hope, but the truth gave loss to its efforts. I cried as I fall.||

||Found myself drenching in cold death that only stood below my weak ankles. Newly found light sparks once again with glowing white flowers where their petals' beauty sinks above the mirrored water. Trapped with empty echoes reaching into the infinite abyss, there is no passageway to my escape. Alone, empty, and souless, I screamed at my own reflection, hating it to the ends of the earth. With nothing left at hand; forced to stare at reality itself. An unbearable sight, my own pride, I have defeated myself.||

edgy ice
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and i will send free vbucks

timber viper
solid hull
cold aspen
edgy ice
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i feel if i do, a black van will show up at my house

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posting classified info online is a crime yknow

fleet tangle
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Apparently you can just see through all that redacted black line stuff (if it's the original) using a blue light heh.

primal summit
timber viper
# cold aspen shoo, just read

Not sure how to formalize but it looks way poetical, it'd be difficult to provide plots in depth with this way - you're doing the effort that reader should make by explaining everything peotical

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no idea though

fleet tangle
supple apex
cursive crypt
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dafuq with hidden walls of text

timber viper
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someone sharing classified CIA document by disguising it into a story review

cold aspen
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yeah I don't know where's the updated version of that piece. I swear I fixed all the grammar

edgy ice
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real talk, unless this is set in Victorian England with the MC being a broke poet trying to uncover the beasts under the lighthouse, its a little too verbose

cold aspen
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Check why the title is called "Revenge"

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TL;DR it is the revenge against the protagonist. Himself.

edgy ice
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revenge is still a plot

timber viper
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yeah but no one understand it as you can see

edgy ice
#

self v self is an archetype

timber viper
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so you failed to explain it

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if you are telling a story whether a book, article, game or movie, you need to trust your audience's intelligence

supple apex
# primal summit I am

5 it is then. πŸ‘
I mean, if epic bugfix and patch are your highest priority, I don't see much option left there.

cold aspen
cursive crypt
timber viper
primal summit
cold aspen
#

the "mystery" of which

timber viper
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I dont even know that when I finished reading though

supple apex
deep copper
timber viper
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I just know a dramatical person doing weird things that does not interest me

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I need to know backstory to feel

cold aspen
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too bad there's none πŸ₯²

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it was for a June Writing Month thing

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Inktober but for writing

timber viper
#

u asked me to critise and I gave what I learned from a storytelling god Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

cold aspen
timber viper
#

left the server πŸ₯²

supple apex
proud jay
timber viper
cold aspen
proud jay
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agreed though, why you writing like a 17th century poet

supple apex
edgy ice
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i mean, being less brutalistic about his supposed "failures", i think the thing with the story is that the text is a bit too short, there was little to really define the character, its poetic and you can gather some information, blood on the coat implying either the man is wounded OR he committed some form of violence, he is going into a cave and found sweet drug shrooms, he fell and now he is stuck in some hole(cue the scary lofi), he hates himself...and thats about it?

deep copper
edgy ice
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there should have been a few more establishing lines, perhaps mentioning a body, or a scuffle to define the blood on his coat

supple apex
#

@deep copper
How long have you been a serial hugger btw AU?
Why don't you have a seat over there...

timber viper
edgy ice
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perhaps maybe some letters or notes, a reflection of ones sins, the water showing a man in a white coat and badges upon his breast

cold aspen
#

πŸ“

edgy ice
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its not a bad start and you have the format and progression down, you just need to define who this person is, why this person hates themself, whats with the blood

deep copper
timber viper
#

alien kink huh?

deep copper
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so much critics, now i wish i went through the story

timber viper
#

its classified

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not everyone can read

timber viper
#

@deep copper can you remove this

deep copper
timber viper
cold aspen
edgy ice
#

it doesnt even need to be like...detailed? the reader can infer things on their own. but when you mention things like "the waters sullen by the corpses, spawned by his hand", or "he gazed into the waters, seeing not a wounded, bleeding man but the glorious visage of a man, with medals on his breast and rifle in hand" or "glowing mushrooms lit the path, flecks of light akin to hope felt on the filthy streets in which he called home"

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oh sure you know he did something bad and there was bloodshed

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the reader doesnt

timber viper
#

but there is no way to learn wtf is going on

supple apex
#

Remove 1, add a new 1, big brain move.

timber viper
#

so reader losts interest

cold aspen
timber viper
cold aspen
#

πŸ“

edgy ice
#

i would not say lost interest

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but i would say i found it hard to get any true attachment to this person, nor do i understand what made him so hatefilled

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this would be fine as an introduction or a flashback or the start of a game, since i AM interested to see where this goes

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but in a void as a solo short story, its not enough and doesnt exactly want me to have more

timber viper
#

true, but that lack of attachment causes reader to not wonder what is going to happen, so its lose of interest indirectly - thats what I tried to say

cold aspen
cold aspen
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what makes a person like a character?

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If only Eren's friend is here haha

edgy ice
#

thats a nebulous train of thought

supple apex
deep copper
edgy ice
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instead of "what makes a person like a character", you should be asking "why should someone like my character"

cold aspen
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Wouldn't it depend on the situation?

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ah

deep copper
#

being relatable if often the case

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is*

edgy ice
#

theres characters with zero likable qualities but we like them because of how they are done

deep copper
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or, some power fantasy

cold aspen
#

relatable is one. But what wasabi said is what I want to go for

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"how they are done"

deep copper
#

do them good!

timber viper
cold aspen
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malevolent villains with no likable or relatable qualities can be still good

timber viper
#

he is more like god of "world building" around auidence

deep copper
timber viper
#

but I know some theories like "katarsis" etc

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also physicologically people would side with characters that suffering

edgy ice
#

handsome jack is a vile, grubbing, awful individual who would kill 10 men for no reason. we like him because he is a great villain, a great vile clown that has so many good quips and handles situations in such an awful way that its, well, likable

Harry Du Bois from Disco Elysium is a drunk, washed up, low down, miserable man. hideous, disgusting and fraught with horrible life decisions. you end up liking him because the inner machinations of his thoughts(as you are the him ingame) are so outlandish and fun that it becomes enjoyable

deep copper
timber viper
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no its just situational, if you see a character weak compared to others and kind hearted you'll always side with it

supple apex
#

There's also characters that you just love to hate, heels.

edgy ice
#

^ incorrect

deep copper
#

that makes sense!

edgy ice
#

i cannot stand shinji from evangellion

timber viper
edgy ice
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i hate whimp characters in general

supple apex
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A good heel adds a lot of factors in making a likeable face.

edgy ice
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theyre not fun, theyre annoying and they usually become so whimpy to the point its literally impractical

timber viper
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if it irritiates you for some reason you wouldnt want it to be shine though

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thats normal

deep copper
edgy ice
#

conversely i also dont find paragon characters interesting at all

cold aspen
edgy ice
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the strict lawful good, always ties his shoelaces, cleans himself

edgy ice
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talks polite

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its boring

deep copper
cold aspen
#

imperfection is key

deep copper
timber viper
#

i think Assassination Classroom anime would be a good study @cold aspen

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it does its job perfectly

edgy ice
#

in general i think you should go play some games and watch some anime.

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or tv shows or movies

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or read a short story

supple apex
deep copper
#

become an ai! good input / training data = good output

edgy ice
#

just find something with characters and ask yourself why do you like this character, what is it about this entity that makes you enjoy them

timber viper
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i rarely get attached to a character, but when I do get get quite obsessed πŸ€”

edgy ice
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you dont need to be attached, you just need to like them

timber viper
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I rarely like them too

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I overanalyze

deep copper
cold aspen
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the strict lawful good, always ties his shoelaces, cleans himself.

This can be salvaged via backstory on how the person has to be perfect all the time. Reminds me of Isabela from Encanto. Has to be a perfect child all the time.

supple apex
timber viper
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I can get attached to "worlds" though

edgy ice
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@cold aspen thats not a bad thing to compare it to

deep copper
timber viper
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I'm quite obsessed with Witcher 3's world

supple apex
timber viper
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the factions, characters, myths etc

edgy ice
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i play a lot of CRPG and other kinds of RPG games where characters are the #1 main focus

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and usually in these games the characters are

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not good people

cold aspen
edgy ice
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and in a game like that, you realize what makes some characters good

timber viper
timber viper
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nope

cold aspen
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He is

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aight fine

deep copper
#

i really don't recall a single instance where he was

cold aspen
deep copper
#

he is just a good assasin i think,

supple apex
cold aspen
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even before they know he's a good assassin.

edgy ice
#

inb4 geralt

deep copper
#

puck

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eren's pfp

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older pfp lol

timber viper
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I like Geralt, natsuki Subaru and Lelouch vi Britannia

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but no obsessions

cold aspen
#

I'd put Nagisa as High Functioning Psychopath. High due to having high empathy.

edgy ice
#

well thats a complex topic.

timber viper
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||its because he is abused by his mother a lot||

cold aspen
#

I really really hate how Japanese stories depicts psychopaths. It's so annoying and stupid.

timber viper
cold aspen
timber viper
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idk about that, not an expert of biology

edgy ice
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ok see the issue here is that psychopaths in general have very little empathy, if you have someone with a LOT of empathatic traits, they are not really psychopathic

supple apex
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Is Natsuki Subaru that guy from Re:Zero?

timber viper
#

yep

cold aspen
#

his mother is a control freak.
Nagisa became perfect with controlling his emotions and his actions due to the abuse.

timber viper
#

psychos do not feel like a normal person, they are in a constant numbness and void

cold aspen
timber viper
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||Nagisa is raised with love, but overly abused||

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he cant be psycho

cold aspen
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he is

timber viper
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ok

edgy ice
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not...exactly

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im mean ok

cold aspen
#

aight has anyone tried feeling devoid of all emotions just to achieve something? it feels like you ate a bunch of painkillers.

supple apex
edgy ice
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yes psychopaths can feel empathy, its not that they dont feel anything, its more along the lines that a psychopath in general cannot feel empathy for other people and (usually) animals

cold aspen
edgy ice
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but its entirely possible a psychopath can kill 4 people for lunch and then raise a garden of plants

timber viper
cold aspen
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VERY possible for them to do that

edgy ice
#

and when it comes to psychopathic or sociopathic behaviours, many do not simply kill or behave in an uncaring or violent way because they are psycho/sociopaths

timber viper
cold aspen
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I hate it

edgy ice
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but rather many dont because they either dont want the repercussions, want to fit into social norms or even are just too lazy to do it

timber viper
#

both three thinks (or dont think but they are) they are in the middle of the earth, their actions shape the world etc. but they need their friends to continue otherwise they keep fuck up

edgy ice
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they physically do not feel the connection, but they can still build that connection

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the same way you have a connection with your phone, you clean it, you care for it so it doesnt break

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you use it to get stuff done

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but if your phone dies, i mean

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its not that big of a deal.

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get a new one.

timber viper
cold aspen
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Kororo sensei is a good example of a psychopath trying to emotionally improve. That's to the teacher he loved.

edgy ice
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the way i put psycho/sociopathy in terms of stories: violence and murder is never the first thing that crosses a psychopaths mind, but its not out of the question

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the gun is on the table, but that doesnt mean they will go for it.

timber viper
#

killer != psycho

cold aspen
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I know

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killer is not instant psycho

timber viper
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you cant be psycho after an age

edgy ice
#

incorrect

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psychopathy is the brain not making specific connections, its just the wires not hooking up

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if you suffer a traumatic brain injury(god forbid), you could develop psychopathic tendencies

timber viper
#

psychopathy is also a personality disorder and after some point your personality is fixed to something, and without some hellish trauma you can't change more than slightly

cold aspen
#

supposed to hook up during childhood stage

edgy ice
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incorrect.

cold aspen
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oh my bad

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I was wrong

edgy ice
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personality disorders can happen at any age and peoples personalities change

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no you werent tito

edgy ice
#

eren was

supple apex
edgy ice
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any event traumatic enough can change a person.

cold aspen
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amazing that a child can server connections in their brains

timber viper
cold aspen
#

oh there's a term for those too

timber viper
#

You cant make someone narcissistic after age of 40 either

edgy ice
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it could also be mental, not ALWAYS physical.

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ACTUALLY incorrect

timber viper
#

defence mechanism shape behaviors

edgy ice
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if a person grows poor and feels like a failure to society, they wont be narcissistic

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if they suddenly gain millions upon millions of dollars

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top tier celebrity

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mass fame

proud jay
#

narcissism is not the same as egotistical

edgy ice
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they might end up becoming narcissistic because they dont know how to handle this power.

timber viper
#

Narcissism is not something simple like that

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ANY kind of narcissism has roots to childhood

edgy ice
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eh, maybe that was a bad example

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i can admit that

timber viper
#

argument was invalid

cold aspen
#

@edgy ice some info you might want.
Primary Psychopathy: born with
Secondary Psychopathy: made to

edgy ice
#

^

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this

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but the idea you cant be sociopathic or psychopathic after an age is blatently false

deep copper
timber viper
#

What I tried to say was you cant turn someone to psycho with emotional traumas

supple apex
#

#anime-lounge

edgy ice
#

but i do completely agree with the previous statements, japan has a VERY poor demonstration on socio/psychopathic folks

cold aspen
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I have a friend who is Secondary Psychopath very early in age, because he was forced to kill a pig and chopped it up. Didn't get a chance to fix his connection with empathy. Now he's a business demon.

edgy ice
#

in general japan still struggles to grasp and accept emotional and mental disorders actually

cold aspen
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it's really sad bros

proud jay
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empathy is for weaklings

cold aspen
#

tbh Dark Empath is great

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way more dangerous

timber viper
#

i read an article just saying hello and good morning to people constantly and helping people for no reason helps dark triads a lot

cold aspen
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I only learned empathy through by mimic other people

timber viper
#

if done for a long time

deep copper
#

what is a dark triad

timber viper
#

3 types of personality disorders that contains lack of empathy as common similarity

supple apex
timber viper
#

those personalities are very successful in their jobs etc

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and more charismatic as nature

cold aspen
#

damn I hate shadow

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he's retarded

edgy ice
#

i mean, he isn't really. shadow was fine

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edgy

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but this was the 2000s

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everyone was edgy.

soft night
#

sonic movie 3 have release date

timber viper
#

didnt watch it though

cold aspen
# timber viper and more charismatic as nature

my all time favourite about being a psychopath
Just do not give a damn of what people think. Just be confident no matter how people pull you down. People don't like it? doesn't matter. Be confident

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the most useful thing to have in all forms. Charisma

deep copper
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i recall a friend who killed his mother and sister, that's primary psychopath? he was kinda like, always told he isn't good etc from a young age

cold aspen
#

A Dark Empath can do a fun trick with Charisma.
Learning people's dark secret in 1 hour, and make them feel like you're best friends.

timber viper
timber viper
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its easy to do for a normal person too

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unless you raised very dependent

deep copper
#

so .. is that primary or

cold aspen
timber viper
#

generally i wouldnt like anything about being sociopath or psychopath

cold aspen
#

I learning emotions is worth it to anyone who is high on manipulation

timber viper
#

adoring the having ability of manipulation signs you desire it though πŸ˜„

proud jay
#

I think we can all agree that none of us are therapists

cold aspen
#

!8ball will my kids ever love me back?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@cold aspen, :8ball: My reply is no.

cold aspen
#

THIS

deep copper
proud jay
#

!8ball does he even have kids

turbid spindleBOT
#

@proud jay, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

cold aspen
#

IS THE SECOND TIME

timber viper
proud jay
#

idk never been to one, would probably not be allowed to walk around freely if I ever did

cold aspen
#

I'm glad I can really understand divorced dad jokes now

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I regret everything

deep copper
proud jay
#

dad?

timber viper
supple apex
timber viper
#

he got us

deep copper
deep copper
cold aspen
#

I should've let myself get disconnected to a point I kept romanticizing my dark past and my glory days too much

timber viper
#

now we need #therapy

proud jay
edgy ice
#

whats up with the grapes anyways lol

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i havnt been here too long and thats one the one running gag i still dont get rofl

timber viper
#

is not rofl

cold aspen
deep copper
edgy ice
#

.

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do i wanna know?

cold aspen
#

Sometimes I do regret having psychopath traits

deep copper
supple apex
#

You really wanna know about grapes?
2 of the prime suspects are literally above you...

cold aspen
#

The obsession of power got me πŸ₯²

edgy ice
#

i mean, yea grapes are cool ig

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better made into wine but

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eh

cold aspen
#

remember bois. Don't make tough decisions when you're desperate.

timber viper
#

grapes are only nice when they are used to make wines

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though i'm a beer person

edgy ice
#

oh i mainly only drink harder stuff, rum, whiskey, vodka

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i like using wine for cooking

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lamb shanks in red wine is heaven

timber viper
#

I tried whiskey once but I think I got a very sharp one

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it almost killed me

deep copper
fleet tangle
deep copper
#

i think

cold aspen
soft night
#

πŸ‘ πŸ₯§

deep copper
cold aspen
#

also Nagisa is still a psychopath for me. He has specific traits that I have

timber viper
#

nutella on lahmacun

fleet tangle
edgy ice
#

pineapple on pizza is aight, its not something i enjoy but ive had it

timber viper
supple apex
#

Peachy pizza?

edgy ice
#

not as bad as the internet makes it out, but not good

cold aspen
#

I don't have his positive traits

fleet tangle
#

The real question is, anchovies on pizza?!

deep copper
supple apex
#

Pineapple on a burger.

edgy ice
#

i mean, anchovies on pizza tastes like anchovies lol

#

real talk

#

i live in NY, we got DA PIZZA

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and ive had it and its just

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i taste anchovies.

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thats it

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barely taste the cheese or the sauce

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its like, a waste of pizza

soft night
#

that to pizza with pineapple

deep copper
cold aspen
#

One of the favorite traits that I can relate to is his ability to do anything to kill finish an objective, while disregarding everything humanely possible. Lie, manipulate, or sacrifice self or others to succeed.

edgy ice
#

at least she wont be iron deficient...

soft night
#

Salty Licorice + pineapple on pizza

edgy ice
#

never had that

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i guess id try it

fleet tangle
edgy ice
#

bah dont give me that italian crap

fleet tangle
#

I mean, it's true for everything else you guys do, so I guess it goes for pizza too.

edgy ice
#

italian pizza is boring as hell

cold aspen
#

yep

edgy ice
#

lamest most boring shit

cold aspen
#

Americanized pizza is better

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explosive flavours in my mouth

edgy ice
#

they have a whole pizza council to make it as homogenous as possible

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not joking btw

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thats a thing.

cold aspen
#

sauce?

edgy ice
#
cold aspen
#

oh yea

timber viper
#

Turkey doesnt have a nice pizza restourant

cold aspen
#

another thing too

edgy ice
#

its boring lol

timber viper
#

we're up to damn dominos

edgy ice
#

its just d u l l

cold aspen
#

processed pasta is better

edgy ice
#

uhhhhh, yes and no

fleet tangle
cold aspen
#

because fresh pasta has more issues than the hard pasta don't

deep copper
edgy ice
#

theres zero difference between rough grain soft pasta and hard processed pasta

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yes

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but fresh pasta has 1. a different texture and 2. cooks quicker

cold aspen
#

oh god I'm so hungry

edgy ice
#

and 3. is bougie

deep copper
#

jk

edgy ice
#

for my day to day i wouldnt use it

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but if im impressing a lady or a friend or im having a gathering

#

you bet your ass im getting some of the fresh stuff

cold aspen
#

But I'm good at talking

cold aspen
deep copper
cold aspen
#

pasta from the grocery, lez go

deep copper
timber viper
cold aspen
#

goulash!

timber viper
#

I think its Hungarian πŸ€”

deep copper
#

i am kinda saying goulash like golash like lorash

cold aspen
#

I ain't eatin this pizza

timber viper
#

name reminded me of "gullac" but not even relevant

cold aspen
#

trash

supple apex
deep copper
#

mako

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no wait

#

wasabi*

supple apex
timber viper
#

nope, its not Turkish

primal summit
#

I had a hawaiian pizza once that had the usual ham and pineapple, but added cashews. Excellent addition!

timber viper
#

its Hungarian

edgy ice
#

@deep copper I been cooking since I was a young boy, ma used to make me cook my own food if I was hungry lol

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And then COVID happened, meaning I was out of work and school and fucks to give

cold aspen
#

my homies love, flavour-explosive pizzas

fleet tangle
edgy ice
#

So I started getting better at cooking

fleet tangle
cold aspen
#

American Pizza enjoyers

deep copper
cold aspen
supple apex
edgy ice
#

Vodka is great

deep copper
cold aspen
#

I love Brandy

edgy ice
#

Tastes good, kicks like a mule, good for cooking

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And doesn't lie to you

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Unlike tequila

#

Tequila is a filthy lying traitor

fleet tangle
#

All alcohol tastes awful. If you like it, you've been indoctrinated.

deep copper
#

yeah i heard it's bitter

edgy ice
#

Not indoctrinated, I'm polish.

timber viper
#

beer starts to taste nice after 2nd one

deep copper
#

all of it

edgy ice
#

It's in my genes

cold aspen
#

Wow! I love getting told "You're too dependent on alcohol"

edgy ice
#

Also alcohol is good in food and cakes.

cold aspen
#

I heard polish people are aggressive

fleet tangle
#

Not really. Rum and raisin is a good ice cream flavour, though.

cold aspen
#

Not in a racist way

#

please don't replace polish to black

supple apex
cold aspen
#

oh go-

deep copper
#

wasabi feels normal, for now

deep copper
fleet tangle
#

Real wasabi or fake wasabi?

deep copper
primal summit
#

huh... interesting...

edgy ice
#

Both wasabi

#

I like horseradish so either is good to me.

fleet tangle
#

Oh, you mean @edgy ice appearing normal, not aggressive?

edgy ice
#

Also Polaks aren't.... aggressive? Were more like.....dwarves.

deep copper
edgy ice
#

We get things done, hate foofoo

fleet tangle
#

Dwarves are commonly betrayed as foul tempered drunks.

edgy ice
#

And are hopelessly stubborn

primal summit
#

I'm going to be in austria for a month with no pc

deep copper
primal summit
#

godot has an engine I can use via android

supple apex
primal summit
supple apex
#

Wait, you're bad at references... πŸ˜‘

cold aspen
#

damn Python

fleet tangle
#

It being a business trip hasn't stopped people before.

deep copper
cold aspen
#

isn't that slower than C++ but has lotsa hard process?

fleet tangle
#

Python?

cold aspen
#

yeah

deep copper
cold aspen
#

I heard it's good for AI

edgy ice
#

The only thing faster then C++ is C

#

Afaik

deep copper
#

the AI part is because it uses libraries that use C

cold aspen
#

C is the real boss

#

isn't it C -> C++ -> Python?

fleet tangle
#

If you used c++ it'd probalby be better than python. Python is just easy to use for noobs.

deep copper
cold aspen
foggy path
deep copper
foggy path
#

This GIF came up with "Haskell"

supple apex
edgy ice
#

It's easy to write and pretty neat syntax wise

fleet tangle
deep copper
cold aspen
#

i mean commonly used for Deep Neural Networks

deep copper
cold aspen
#

oh cython

deep copper
#

so you call functions and all written in C using python which is easy to write in

cold aspen
#

Python expert spotted!

deep copper
#

opening a file is just "open(filename)" 😭

cold aspen
#

!8ball should I trust this python user?

deep copper
#

i recall trying C++ idk what i did but nothing qorked out lmao

turbid spindleBOT
#

@cold aspen, :8ball: Don't count on it.

supple apex
deep copper