lounge

[gusty star]

trippy

i have done duolingo - french but not for a year or two

[deep copper]

wanna try me now?

jk

[gusty star]

xD

[trail wedge]

I watch a ton of stuff at 3-6x speed... good thing my views just give them part of my YouTube Premium sub since I'm killing their retention time

[noble plaza]

Like, turn this down to .25x and see the insane quality in the animation and reaction sync, it's wack
https://youtu.be/j6yiJI-EoJU?t=43

[gusty star]

do you think they use mo-cap for the anims?

[deep copper]

same ... we have 3 similarities now

[noble plaza]

Bonk

[gusty star]

or i guess i should ask, is there a mo-cap plug-in/suite for unreal?

[trail wedge]

no... people just talk slow

[deep copper]

exactly! and when i say i watch anime at 2-4x people get mad

[gusty star]

my buddy does that too

[deep copper]

think about it, you can watch more, in less time!

[trail wedge]

I think they're more mad you're watching a dub (or are you reading subs at 4x?)

[deep copper]

and you understand them anyway

[deep copper]

sub

[noble plaza]

In part, but the fidelity and programming driving it looks fucking mad

I'm feeling inspired
to drop game dev entirely, fuck this hey

[deep copper]

i am talking about those slow animes, i watch on 2x for normal ones

higher is incomprehensible

[noble plaza]

dom

[trail wedge]

I like to savor my anime since I don't watch too many of them

[deep copper]

also sharing the link,
they would really love you now xD

[gusty star]

how come?

[noble plaza]

Nah legit, check the reactions to the combo. Mind you all of that is split seconds, but it looks so fucking good

[noble plaza]

I could dedicate the rest of my life and never achieve anything as good 😄

[deep copper]

pompom pompom pompom
... 🍅 ?

[gusty star]

ugh i feel that hard lol

[noble plaza]

Haha no, BDSM pun but ye

[deep copper]

gravity goes wack yes, but action scenes look fast and cooler

[noble plaza]

I watch my anime at infinity speed, because I don't

Except for Pokemon, shit slaps

[deep copper]

oh then, 🍇

[gusty star]

does it blow out the timing on jokes and music too tho?

[deep copper]

... skip intro and outro

[gusty star]

or does it sort of scale proportionally.. hmm

[noble plaza]

I don't like anime, but grew up with Pokemon so that's the only on I ever got into I guess

[deep copper]

it does work, never seen any where it gets ruined, infact, you don't get time to predict the jokes and plot much so it's a bit more surprising too

[noble plaza]

I'd assume this, people are terrible at keeping time without training. Your brain adjusts very well to faster times, so when trying to keep a neutral pace, people speed up over time typically

[gusty star]

Im not huge into anime but Bakuman (about manga artists, created by the death note people) and Blue Period (about fine art) was pretty solid.

and Paprika will always have a place in my movie collection lol

[deep copper]

normal speed becomes drunk after watching stuff in 2x

it's worse for 4x

[noble plaza]

To add on, deaf people program by a mega fast line reader thing, and non-deaf people can adjust to it over time, at the cost of normal speech sounding wonky till you adjust back

[deep copper]

you lose all interest in 1x , after the 4x

this is also why radios etc boosted track speed a tiny %, to sound better than competitors, or so i have heard

[noble plaza]

Or just fit in more songs (and ad breaks)

It's affectionate user, not slow user

Gotta go fast as fuck if she wants to fit all those hugs in

[gusty star]

tru

[deep copper]

exactly, i could be hugging someone in that 15 min i save per ep at 2x

[gusty star]

if you hugged at 2x you could get in an extra hug per hug! thats double the hugs!

[deep copper]

eHugs are super quick

[noble plaza]

Little known fact, if you listen to audiobooks at 2x while sleeping, you only need 4 hours of sleep per night. It's science.

[gusty star]

omelette du fromage 😉

[trail wedge]

yeh I just kinda check in every once and a while, drop off, and then catch up

[sour bolt]

watching videos on youtube at 2x speed hurts the creator. they only get 1/2 the retention time. play in 0.5 speed you get 200% retention per video

[deep copper]

yup

[trail wedge]

I do but I used them all on Evangelion

[noble plaza]

Honestly fuck them, YTers were padding out videos to 10 minutes, and still waffle on and on before getting to things with any substance far too often.

[deep copper]

with only gasping sounds for 2 sec per static image

[sour bolt]

your netflix advisor must sit thinking they watched half of every eposide where did it go wrong in every one

[deep copper]

i don't use netflex xD

[sour bolt]

hahaha my vids can be hours long with no content

[deep copper]

i*

[gusty star]

yeah this times 100

mf'ers need to learn to edit for brevity

[deep copper]

specially true for tutorials, tell me what i am there for or get skip 5s till you do

[sour bolt]

hahaha

[trail wedge]

Netflix? They don't call me Kaizoku Ou ni for using legit sites

[gusty star]

Netflix was cool until they shot themselves in the face with their PR/marketing lol

[noble plaza]

?

[sour bolt]

never was cool

[noble plaza]

Netflix was cool till every one and their mum made an in-house streaming platform, diluting its library massively

[deep copper]

they recently lost stuff

[gusty star]

they started talking about extra fees for all the stuff that made netflix netflix

[sour bolt]

all shows on there are guff

[gusty star]

yeah and the quality control issues in terms of content, its all over the place

[noble plaza]

Whatever the fuck their meme PR team doesn't concern me. The absolute dogshit selection, does

[trail wedge]

I had Netflix back when they mailed you DVDs to copy

[celest musk]

i don't think that it was their intention that you make a copy 😄

[trail wedge]

sure it was... anything to kill Blockbuster

[deep copper]

i was to lazy to fill in info on Netflix and again, i could use that time i saved on... 🫂

[sour bolt]

well with no drm on it it kinda was but mafia style "take him down the river"

[celest musk]

didn't pretty much every DVD had that copy protection

which was hacked pretty quick

[gusty star]

i remember using Vuze and burning shit with nero lol (back in the day)

[sour bolt]

old fecker

[celest musk]

i recently tried to find empty cd packs, it's impossible now

[trail wedge]

right... to the point it might as well have not had any DRM

[celest musk]

had an "old" car with cd player

[noble plaza]

I just realised I'm still sending my GF a "Netflix babies" payment monthly - it's meant to cover half the contraceptives and the Netflix.

She's cancelled Netflix and isn't on the contraceptives anymore. I'm just buying her a few coffees a month 😐 Involuntary simp?

[sour bolt]

old cars had tape players

[celest musk]

really old cars didn't even had tape

[sour bolt]

or wheels

[celest musk]

or an engine

[deep copper]

don't overthink it
as long as you like it

[sour bolt]

your just pre paying for the cot and buggie

[noble plaza]

I liked covering things I thought I should, but now she's just pocketing the money and making me buy condoms WTF

Men, the most exploited of earth's creatures 🧠

[celest musk]

smart

[sour bolt]

hahaha

[trail wedge]

its so funny to me that people use "simp" without realizing fully that "simp" means "simpleton"... I dunno if I'd call myself an idiot

[noble plaza]

No way, cute doggo is as far as I'm going m8

[sour bolt]

well if she aint on the contra and your using jhonnys then its only a matter of time

[noble plaza]

In modern usage simp is it's own thing, but I've called myself harsher things. Self-deprecating humour is here to stay, apparently

[celest musk]

well, you could adopt AU

i bet he gonna bark for you

[noble plaza]

Wait I thought AU was a grill

Not sure why though

[gusty star]

Ye i never saw Simp as short for simpleton, it has its own meaning thats arguably more complex. something like "to fanboy excessively / without self-awareness"

[trail wedge]

it's not it's own thing tho... it's calling somebody an idiot for giving stuff to women they won't ever get with; so it kinda doesn't apply if she's your gf

[noble plaza]

I think it's like 95% with average usage 'skill'? Over a year that is

[sour bolt]

https://external-preview.redd.it/kbWItq-Zm0zhpKXQE-KUINdaoFIPMuUWrD4nWdKz-bM.gif?format=mp4&s=3c8505aee10eff9f5326b6acc1aa4310b730748f

[noble plaza]

And that specific meaning has nothing to do with simpleton, so it is its own thing

[trail wedge]

right... they're being excessive because they're too stupid to realize they're being taken advantage of.... that's the implication of calling somebody a simp

[gusty star]

ah okay that makes sense

[sour bolt]

lol 2020 simp = what was a femboy in the 80s

[trail wedge]

what? I just explained how they're intrinsically tied concepts

[noble plaza]

Nah femboys are now just programmers with programming socks 💪

[sour bolt]

hahaha sheldons

[deep copper]

simp evolved as a slang i guess

[deep copper]

wait i missed an opportunity
oof

[celest musk]

no you didn't

[trail wedge]

it's always meant what it means now tho... it's just a specific kind of "simpleton" you're calling them

[noble plaza]

The first one here is what I've deduced its meaning to be 🤷‍♂️
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Simp

[noble plaza]

Sure, and rectangles are not squares, even if squares are rectangles

[trail wedge]

even go back to MC Hammer calling guys simps for the same thing in "Can't Touch This"... simp isn't new or different now

[sour bolt]

but squares are just two triangles embracing

[noble plaza]

Not just any triangle, right angled triangles.

[sour bolt]

so what even would be a wrong angled triangle? a circle?

[noble plaza]

The lack of specificity is bothering me

An acute triangle for one, or the equilateral one

[sour bolt]

you find them cute?

[noble plaza]

Fuck yeah, lil triangles with baby angles. Good stuff, it's like a puppy triangle

[sour bolt]

but a big and little triangle would share the same angle

[sour bolt]

hahahaha

[noble plaza]

The angles are small, not the triangle itself

[sour bolt]

ohhhh so a skinny trianlge with one biiiiig angle

[noble plaza]

No, that's the opposite actually

Acute = all 3 angles < 90

[deep copper]

i really like where this is going

[gusty star]

honestly the only math i ever found useful was like probability and that sort of thing

[sour bolt]

ah idk never paid attantion to that just remeber it can fit in most holes

[gusty star]

helped me understand chance / uncertainty better

[noble plaza]

Obtuse is the skinny ones, where one angle is > 90. Also known as every Dorito ever, because they're stingy cunts at PepsiCo

[gusty star]

lmao

[sour bolt]

taking too long

[noble plaza]

Triangles are sick. I had to do mechanical and civil engineering stuff in my software degree, and I'm like fairly sure some of the lecturers had a hard-on for triangles. Great shapes

[sour bolt]

makes for better toppo

[noble plaza]

Stablest of shapes, can fill evenly into many shapes to evenly distribute loads. Equilateral triangles are, additionally, fucking god-tier

3 60 degree angles, no bullshit. Aspirational.

[deep copper]

Acute angles do make more round and cuter triangles no?

[celest musk]

@deep copper you know what to do... turn into a 3x 60° triangle

[deep copper]

anything for you <3

[celest musk]

not for me

[noble plaza]

Aesthetically acute are GOAT, but for engineering equilateral is more common

[deep copper]

😒

[noble plaza]

A lot of symmetry and clear patterns are pretty off-putting

[deep copper]

disturbingly regular?

[noble plaza]

Yes, it's why we don't live in shit like this (if you can help it)

[sour bolt]

welcome to russia

[noble plaza]

Fuck USSR. Their civil engineering number last

[celest musk]

i do live in shit like that

[sour bolt]

glaswegian?

[noble plaza]

I'm sorry for you Ben UI

[celest musk]

i'm a different ben, tho

[noble plaza]

I crossed it out for ya

[celest musk]

ok, just wanted to get sure that i'm not misdiagnosed again

[noble plaza]

But having two whole Bens in UE dev circles is a bit much no? Fight him to the death maybe

[deep copper]

not that bad 🤔 it has greenery

[noble plaza]

It's Russia. Plants are dead 80% of the year

[sour bolt]

so does bens just in a cuioboard and smokable

[deep copper]

there are many bens on this server

[celest musk]

if we fight to dead i will just lay down and accept my fate

[deep copper]

our ben is 6 in search result usually

[celest musk]

and wish the world good luck with the other bens 😄

[deep copper]

we will really miss you 😭

[celest musk]

you will be the only one 😄

[noble plaza]

I can make do with 2. Ben, and Big Ben if we have a chonklord. Any more, and it's just all a bit too much, you know?

[deep copper]

oops

[celest musk]

and you would just attach to blue man or someone else

[deep copper]

this one is Ben (D:) ||D: as in the windows C: drive||

[sour bolt]

so not even worthy of being a main drive partition poor guy

and i hate my d:

[celest musk]

i'm where the good stuff goes

[sour bolt]

ue tells me its because of it it crashed XD

[deep copper]

well, yes, but that's not a replacement,
it's just a reordering of priorities and that's not easy and fun

[sour bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-huh-lost-your-mind-gif-17096481

[noble plaza]

C:\ is for the OS and silly shit. F:\ is for the fast as fucc SSD that all the fancy shit goes on. Like Solitaire.

[sour bolt]

installs ue on a 3.5" floppy

[noble plaza]

I once partitioned a 2TB SSD to 1.95 and 5 * .01, just so I could have S,E,X,Y. They did not sort like that, but it's the intention that matters

Numbers are very rough because the actual capacity was 1.82 or something

[celest musk]

what was the other 2 letters for?

[deep copper]

find X and Y math questions

[noble plaza]

Hmm think it was 4 of the tiny ones actually, and then the non-meme one was C

[deep copper]

i c

[noble plaza]

Windows still reserves A and B for floppies or some other dinosaur shit 😦

[sour bolt]

well wouldnt it be better to partition it with main and 3 others then? a bit more direct and abrupt for a meme too

[noble plaza]

No worries man, I'm going to bard school so I'm glad to impress you with my exciting life xoxo

[celest musk]

that choppy gif gave me nausea

[noble plaza]

60 FPS gifs are life changing hey

[sour bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/grass-touch-bend-knee-gif-25846634

[deep copper]

want some help?

[sour bolt]

more sickening memes

[celest musk]

no, i'm used to that

[noble plaza]

Next season my football streams are going to be 1080p/60FPS, glad to make it to the 21st century :))))

[celest musk]

that's how my characters look 90% of the time -.-

[sour bolt]

u use mixamo too

[deep copper]

this gif kept 100% of my retention

[celest musk]

nah, but control rig... and FullBodyIK

[sour bolt]

theres a bit going on in there XD

[deep copper]

fully unpredictable and new content every second

[sour bolt]

ermmm anyone know much on this ?

if i click package does that package it for use in a packaged application?

[noble plaza]

Yeah so it's a toolkit for fluid simulation with Niagara

[sour bolt]

hmmmmm

i wonder if thats what i have to do to use it in my game then.

[celest musk]

no

it gets packed automatic, no idea what that button is tho

might be because it contains content?

[noble plaza]

Is that a link to explanation for it maybe? Click it

[sour bolt]

maybe

[sour bolt]

i did and it tried to put it into my packaged app i built earlier

il have to read up on the button

its for distribution reasons

[deep copper]

so much mystery

[sour bolt]

seems wont make it work in a release game

bummer

[celest musk]

oO

doubt

where did you read that?

[noble plaza]

Is it "package redirect" maybe?

[sour bolt]

ue docs. its so you can make your own internal plugin then package it to put on market place

but ^^ says otherwise.

[celest musk]

that shouldn't stop you from using it in your project

[sour bolt]

says to me it renames it to something the engine wants

[sour bolt]

it crashes

[celest musk]

when?

[sour bolt]

2d works. 3d smoke sims just kill your project on loading it

[celest musk]

even the examples?

[sour bolt]

when u load the system or have it in scene moment it spawns it death to the game unless ur in editor mode

[celest musk]

are you talking about loading project in editor, or in a packaged build?

[sour bolt]

packaged build dies

it is beta so they probably intenionally did that to stop you using it real world idk

[celest musk]

no

it's probably just broken

[gusty star]

ye

[slim atlas]

guys i want to crack open other peoples games for science reason

[celest musk]

could try the version from ue5-main (as it's a plugin you might be lucky, and it compiles on 5.0.x)

[slim atlas]

you can trust me

i wont tell anyone

its totally legit

epic gave me person

[sour bolt]

try is. make a new levenm spawn in a new color ring smoke sim package and run it dies straight off bat or when u instnce the system

[slim atlas]

will not steal your discord token trust me.

[sour bolt]

indeed

[sour bolt]

wait epic give out people and grants...... 1940s america all over again?

[slim atlas]

PERMISSION

i am just so

chaos

my cousin is 25

still a baby

[noble plaza]

Epic just give out people? Oh boy

[slim atlas]

and shes marrying next year

[noble plaza]

Bruh

[slim atlas]

wo marries with 25

[foggy path]

a lot of people seem to do that

[noble plaza]

I'm 25 and a chick in my year is married and has had her 3rd baby

[sour bolt]

thats fine

[slim atlas]

WTF

[noble plaza]

Makes me feel old as fuck

[sour bolt]

obvoiusly not from texas

[gusty star]

im 28 and can't even get a tinder date -_- feels old man :old:

[noble plaza]

Lots have had 1-2 kids too

[slim atlas]

i cant stop thinking about this

[foggy path]

there's some folks around my age on tinder who have nearly adult age kids

which would mean they had kids when they were 18

[sour bolt]

maybe you shouldnt be touching old men then....

[gusty star]

and then my younger brother has a 7 yo -_-

HAHA

[sour bolt]

tbf u is old when u cant even emoji right XD

[celest musk]

tinder is a joke to humanity

[gusty star]

lmao

[sour bolt]

tinder is good for starting a fire

[celest musk]

that's a good science project and social experiment

[slim atlas]

brrrrrrrrrr

[noble plaza]

Ted draw a Charlie's Angels poster

[sour bolt]

i once had a tinder date. got offended when i said my dog was a shit and didnt love him

[foggy path]

Yeah I honestly don't know why Tinder is so popular compared to ther other dating apps

You can't even filter based on whether a person is a smoker or has kids which is like the very very basics

[noble plaza]

Population

[gusty star]

Like OG charlies angels? Lucy Lui and all that?

[noble plaza]

Bumble: girls say hi, and you initiate anyway. Hinge: literally no one uses it

[sour bolt]

you sir are using it wrong. its not for dating.

[noble plaza]

Fuck yeah

Then you could say... Ted Drew Barrymore

[gusty star]

HAHA

nice

[foggy path]

Yeah apparently, but all the other apps have like 10 people on them :P

[upper jewel]

hey guys, i am trying to send a dm to manny but my dms are not sending

why is that?

[sour bolt]

hahah i darednt sign up to that. as i be ghosted for reals then their choice not just because i opened with " hey lovely legs can i borrow them as a scarf"

[sour bolt]

gotta be friends

for those ppl

[foggy path]

^this or you have privacy settings for your profile set up so it won't work

[noble plaza]

I swear this was one of yas

[sour bolt]

@turbid spindle

this 1?

[sour bolt]

wait

[noble plaza]

Actuall, from that setter...

[sour bolt]

node stickers

oh its a meme

[upper jewel]

yep

i found out why lol thanks

[noble plaza]

https://www.redbubble.com/people/kwixb/shop?artistUserName=Kwixb&collections=903831&iaCode=all-departments&sortOrder=relevant

[cursive crypt]

Are there ex Unity members here?

[noble plaza]

Wait the creator of that is in this Discord haha

[sour bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

[gusty star]

As in use to be a Unity developer?

raises hand

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[sour bolt]

developer or user developer

[gusty star]

(not affiliated with UT at all)

[sour bolt]

made games with^^?

[gusty star]

The official unity discord is chaos tho tbh

[cursive crypt]

I was just asking to see who to roast.

[sour bolt]

hahaha

[gusty star]

the mods are dicks

there are newbs everywhere

its chaos

[noble plaza]

Same here though

[sour bolt]

irony

[cursive crypt]

cough you have that green plant icon too

[inland oriole]

2 minutes too late with posting it 😦

[noble plaza]

#cpp is like 50% LINK2019 and then Dieter

[cursive crypt]

Get dietered

[gusty star]

yeah but atleast the vibe here is chill.

[deep glen]

talking about unity, this is an interesting read:
https://twitter.com/willgoldstone/status/1551630601920339976

Will Goldstone, esq (@willgoldstone)

Hey all, as promised I wanted to take some time to discuss how I feel things are with #Unity lately. I’ll make a thread of thoughts-as always, if you disagree with something- I’m not gonna try to win you over, your opinion is yours and valid based on your experiences. 🧵

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550

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[sour bolt]

vibe here is borderline asylum

u all crazy

[noble plaza]

We're all going insane, but it's OK

It's like shared trauma, this is the inner circle

[cursive crypt]

He does not discuss anything tho?

[inland oriole]

C++ made us what we are.

[sour bolt]

unreal did it to me

[sour bolt]

yes years of c++ killed me

still killing me now.

[noble plaza]

He wanted to, just never got around to I guess 😄

Or maybe deleted it

[cursive crypt]

So, you are kinda still new. At some point, C++ is fun, despite its complexity.

[cursive crypt]

Ah, I see.

[sour bolt]

tell me when its fun

[cursive crypt]

Kinda hope they will be okay, Unity. Market needs competition.

It is fun now 🙂

[noble plaza]

Unity scrubs won't all flock to UE, C++ terrifies people

[sour bolt]

now that its almost akin to js in how its written?

[noble plaza]

Maybe some will move to Godot and make that a Blender-esque serious option

[cursive crypt]

meh, I think because of ages of old books.

[noble plaza]

No matter the reason, game dev subs are constantly like "I would switch to Unreal but C++ scarey ouch owie 🙂 "

[cursive crypt]

:/

[sour bolt]

as i dont have fun with c++ ever XD always missing the point;

[sour bolt]

thats what bps are for right?

[noble plaza]

Nah, Verse.

[cursive crypt]

BPs are nice intro.

[sour bolt]

hmmm

[noble plaza]

BPs are too janky if you can program, but nice to start with.

[sour bolt]

lol

[teal nest]

I feel like BPs are a nice intro to programming for beginners

[sour bolt]

i can programme

just use bps

lazy

[noble plaza]

I don't, BP tutorials are horrible programming practices usually

[sour bolt]

ok iget i wont be able to do as much with bps only but its fine.

[cursive crypt]

You can do nice games only with BPs

[noble plaza]

I mean I use BPs and C++, but the wiring and shit is slow as balls sometimes. I can type faster than I can click and drag and type and click and drag and...

[sour bolt]

i think i can get by with bp only unless i learn to make my own c++ bps

[noble plaza]

BP information density is, roughly, 0.

[sour bolt]

lol

oh i get lost

[gusty star]

Honestly learning C++ doesn't look fun, as i'm coming from the syntactic sugar of c#, but Blenders UI/UX seems way jankier than BP and C++ combined lol

[noble plaza]

Yeah it feels like programming with font size set to 100, only being able to see 4 lines at a time haha

[sour bolt]

make a setup tonight sleep tomorrow cant tell what i made but it works so bunch it up some more and throw it in a frame.

[noble plaza]

That's exactly why I dislike doing big things in BPs!

[sour bolt]

u mean blenders node setups?they are bad yeah

[noble plaza]

If it's more than like, 10 nodes, it's going to be hard to understand later

[sour bolt]

apparently thats what bp functions were for

[teal nest]

But isnt possible to make Functions node?

[sour bolt]

i guess

[teal nest]

to tidy it up abit?

[sour bolt]

yep

or macros

[teal nest]

<- noob here

[noble plaza]

You can tidy it up, but it doesn't solve the core issue of only being able to see a tiny section of the code at once

At least, that's the issue I experience

[sour bolt]

but then u have to jump in and out to read/know wtf is going on so catch 22

[gusty star]

from what im hearing it would probably be easier to transcribe a BP to psuedo code than actually read it xD

[sour bolt]

yeah its like writing c++ on one line only i guess

[noble plaza]

The Math Expression node though, is banger

[sour bolt]

with no word wrap

hmmm

not touched that

[noble plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-squint-gif-5056034

[sour bolt]

i assume it has all the grats in there like sqrt and cos sin tan crap

maths stuff

[noble plaza]

Yeah, and it automatically generates the BPs in a collapsed node, if it can parse your equation

[sour bolt]

oh

[noble plaza]

Automatically updates, generates input pins, etc.

[sour bolt]

nice

[noble plaza]

Similarly, Sirius Utility Nodes for the nice debug logging with similar usage patterns

[sour bolt]

so if u used say e=mc2 it would square the mc add inputs for mc and spit out e

[noble plaza]

Maybe, but I think the single output is implied? So M * pow(C, 2) would be the syntax IIRC

[sour bolt]

i see so result not e

[noble plaza]

You may be able to do that TBH, I've just never tried to

[sour bolt]

give it some complex stuff

[slim atlas]

would you trust this link

[deep copper]

never

[teal nest]

No

[noble plaza]

Turkiye = I'm out

[deep copper]

but if they give out a hug count me in

[noble plaza]

Don't trust their balloons or speed limits. Very confusing

[sour bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/smokie-fridays-smoking-crazy-eyes-gif-8036192

[gusty star]

so if im writing my own c++ game code and not modifying the engine code, what are compile times like?

10 mins~?

[noble plaza]

Nah seconds

Depends what you edit, how the files are laid out, what the import chains are etc

[gusty star]

mmm okay

[sour bolt]

got any good tuts on starting with c++ in ue5? i think i may try to port a project to use this as the ui instead of qt

[gusty star]

but no hot reloading hey? fk im gonna miss that

[noble plaza]

Live Coding is a thing

[sour bolt]

whaty

[noble plaza]

Just don't use it if you've edited a header, or a constructor

[sour bolt]

pie and write code and it just runs

[gusty star]

apparently hot reloading can str8 up corrupt your project files -_-

[sour bolt]

can imagine

ue has a knack of that on its own

[gusty star]

fk eh

source control becomes all the more important i guess

[noble plaza]

Hot Reload sucks, Live Coding is good though

[gusty star]

cuz i don't want to lose work, time is of the essence

[sour bolt]

lmfao src control. ue cant seem to load autosaves right so id not hold breath on it doing that right either

[cursive crypt]

Look at the Epic/UE's learning centre. There are some. Also #cpp can help.

[sour bolt]

thnx. i may ask there as its not gonna be easy porting it.

[cursive crypt]

Then there are some 3rd part tutz too, but can't recommend some for really newbies.

They love to help (kek)

[sour bolt]

im not new to c++ just how ue uses it idk

[noble plaza]

https://dev.epicgames.com/community/learning/courses/KJ/unreal-engine-converting-blueprint-to-c/kjB/unreal-engine-introduction-to-blueprint-vs-c

[noble plaza]

I use P4 through Rider, but the UE one is quite OK too

[sour bolt]

i believe my best option os just moving major functions from the old code into ue as a bp. and call it on tick like the "main c++ loop"

[noble plaza]

P4 also has P4V

[cursive crypt]

Then check out the learning centre and hang around #cpp , you can ask them for helpful links and so on.

[sour bolt]

shall do

[noble plaza]

The course linked is a great crash course TBH

[sour bolt]

thought id ask here as c++ was on topic

[noble plaza]

#cpp and #lounge are practically the same channel, just that you get molested with hugs here

[sour bolt]

lol

everywhere else seems dead

erm

unity

ah

[noble plaza]

Learn link is broken no?

[sour bolt]

discord stealend

[noble plaza]

Oh okay it did, but it links to the one I linked to as well 🙂

It logged in but didn't redirect first go

Ah right, was talking about https://learn.unrealengine.com/course/3441566

Yeah it works, but A) doesn't redirect after login, if you haven't accessed learn.ue recently, and B) will not be available eventually

...
C) actually tracks your progress, because new versions are always less feature complete somehow

[gusty star]

have ya'll seen the trailer for that ARC raiders, suppose to be coming out this year

[cursive crypt]

arc what?

[gusty star]

its some new IP

former DICE devs formed a new studio called Embark

[cursive crypt]

So, a game?

[gusty star]

ye

[noble plaza]

Is that the one they're building in Rust?

[cursive crypt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gusty star]

its built on UE i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuftkDxjGT4

heres a trailer

ill delete if this isn't allowed

[cursive crypt]

send me crypto bucks and I will allow it

[gusty star]

i only deal in magic beans

[cursive crypt]

ah, for some reason I remember that one, maybe they did some dev talk

Kinda glossed over a familiar scene.

[gusty star]

hmm i see

it seems interesting but there isn't much info about, only that reveal trailer. even the discord is full of people like "where game?!?"

if they can combine the sort of looter-shooter paradigm with MMO raid mechanics and coop it seems like a win to me

[cursive crypt]

"where game"... that is relatable to <insert big number> of games, lol

[gusty star]

ye eh

[sour bolt]

mmo raid mech? like rust?

or do u mean raid shadow thingy

[gusty star]

sorta, more WoW-ish i mean with stages/boss fights that require serious team work in diff. phases

[cursive crypt]

wasn't monster hunter similar?

[sour bolt]

ahhh

[gusty star]

yeah thats a good point actually about monster hunter

[cursive crypt]

or was it hunter monster

[sour bolt]

u play wow?

[gusty star]

i played shadowlands for a bit

[sour bolt]

is the map procedural?

[gusty star]

but hadn't played since burning crusade before that

[sour bolt]

or has a finite size?

[gusty star]

it has a finite size

or wat

or wait

[sour bolt]

gonna go see

[gusty star]

for WoW?

[sour bolt]

yeah

[gusty star]

yeah its finite in WoW

[sour bolt]

i assumed shaddowlands was a section of wow

[gusty star]

the shadowlands expac has a new map tho

[sour bolt]

like dlc new "level"

[gusty star]

5 new zones or something

the story is alright, kinda ties up everything lore wise

[sour bolt]

k so thats how its mmo then

just expands into new lands

[gusty star]

ye

[sour bolt]

kk

[gusty star]

basically you go into the afterlife, hence the shadowlands name

[sour bolt]

gonna go look at real life figures for the map scale they used.

[gusty star]

like the spirit realm lol, its a bit silly but eh its what they figured out

good call

I played New World as well

that was interesting too

the economy is entirely player based, no NPC vendors lol

and its very PvP focused, as theres 3 different factions that vy for control of the maps towns and shiet.

[gusty star]

yeah with all the expansions and legacy content, theres a lot to do in WoW

its still 20 bux / CAD a month tho -_-

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/darthvader-reading-map-disneyland-map-storm-trooper-gif-9873999

[sour bolt]

thats just main land i guess.

[gusty star]

interesting

[sour bolt]

azeroth is 7 maps apparently

[gusty star]

so basically the OG WoW was Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms (Azeroth) while Burning Crusade added the Outlands and each expansion added a new continent afterwards.

[noble plaza]

Home of Joey Barton lmao. That's slander of the highest order

[sour bolt]

then this is a sobetring point

[gusty star]

Yeah

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/scanning-the-galaxy-captain-gabriel-lorca-jason-isaacs-star-trek-discovery-scan-the-cosmos-gif-21614803

[gusty star]

Procedueral generation is on a whole 'nother level vs handcrafted levels ngl

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/psvr-vr-gif-7535906

[noble plaza]

I'd rather a small, dense and interesting map than kilometres of holding W and waiting

[sour bolt]

yeah i was thinking my map was excessive but had forgottem about this. however most planets are barren balls of nothing but resource hotspots and specialised outposts

[gusty star]

I was using perlin noise and a simple loop that generated a grid of tiles to make tilemaps for my last game but it was 2d isometric. I honestly have no idea how procedural generation works in 3D lol.

[sour bolt]

noted XD

[gusty star]

I think Valheim has a pretty solid map, and the boating mechanics are pretty fun albiet a bit gutwrenching.

[sour bolt]

would you not just sphere project your 2d texture and then use a 2d texture to say where a planet is and or is not. and similarly for where is and is not a resource/spawnable?

[noble plaza]

It's fun in the Minecraft way though, it facilitates a playful sandbox

It's not something you'd try to do an interconnected story or something like that in

[gusty star]

Yeah i suppose. I guess i was thinking of it from the other end, like how would i generate the actual geometry of the planet and the like geological feel but maybe theres some ez way to do it

[sour bolt]

iv done a planet generator in blender of sorts

[gusty star]

interesting

[noble plaza]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/shader-world-free-procedural-landscape-and-ocean

[gusty star]

yeah thats a good point, a looser narrative is better. I think the crow giving you tips is a pretty good middle ground, atleast in Valheims case

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-night-of-the-lepus-movie-poster-gif-12835394

[sour bolt]

rudamentary. but i have learned a lot since. and can generate them at life size.... and import as a mesh..... the more i think on this. i should revisit XD

[sour bolt]

they want money 😦

[gusty star]

do it! those look pretty good already, in terms of landmasses/surface variety and all that

[noble plaza]

IDK how but I got that asset for free, think I grabbed it in a preview phase when he posted it on the Forums

[gusty star]

and theres an atmosphere lol!

[sour bolt]

yeah thats just a 3d shader texture through a volume node. so i guess usable as atexture in ue

i never actually thought to import one XD

[gusty star]

I'm not diving into UE until september as im on summer break, but im probably gonna work on a ballistics system and a realistic injury system

[sour bolt]

nice i bought one that i am very happy with. works flawlessly.

[gusty star]

noice

[sour bolt]

imho anyways. not that making one would be too trivial i guess

[gusty star]

ye eh

[noble plaza]

Do a decapitation system, much more fun haha

[gusty star]

I think the realistic injury simulation is gonna be tough, but moreso visualizing it

[noble plaza]

Limbs flying off is top tier game feel

[gusty star]

oh i want it to be full suite, like dismemberment included

[sour bolt]

unless you take into account ballistic mach boundarys and the whole damn 9 yards of physically accurate stuff.

[gusty star]

hmm so you could simplify ballistic calculations or make them really complex lol?

[sour bolt]

gibbing would be hard kinda bespoke for the games asset id think

[gusty star]

ye

most of it will have to be custom or use a filler asset for now

im building it for my own game tho, but i wanna prototype the core stuff first

[sour bolt]

id assume youd make the functions and they would supply the bone targets to split at

and cut their mesh to suite it

[gusty star]

hmm can you dynamically cut the mesh like that instead of using like a pre-sliced mesh?

[sour bolt]

tbh a good philosiphy i guess is make it for your game and if its gonna help another dev out then share.release somehow

[gusty star]

ye exactly

[sour bolt]

probably using chaos destruction.

[gusty star]

makes sense

but i wanna prototype it, polish it, etc before I release it

[sour bolt]

mmmh

[gusty star]

cuz if you release it you have to support it lol

so it might stay in-house idk

[sour bolt]

release free to github as a starter base.... XD

[gusty star]

can you do that under Epics EULA?

opensource it lol?

[sour bolt]

then u can dip in and take the juicy stuff others make

their src is on github

[gusty star]

"DISCLAIMER: This software is provided AS IS, I will not provide technical support. Thank you"

[sour bolt]

plugins exist on git too

exactly

[gusty star]

juicy

alright

that works

my github acct could use some commits, gotta get those green squares somehow lolol

[sour bolt]

hahaha

i forgot i got this free tbh. never used it, i assume its kinda what you would wanna be doing. has a free version too i think maybe some pointers in it to get you started

[gusty star]

Yeah ill definetly check it out

I was looking at buying 3D assets from a AAA dev

the company is called BigMediumSmall

[sour bolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Dck_35cHc

[gusty star]

their 4k model packs are uh... $1200 canadian....

so under $100 for a plugin is nada tbh

[sour bolt]

nice. iv had good experience with none AAA devs of ue assets tbh. one doesnt even have his own channel is just there on dm ready to help XD

[gusty star]

noice

this one dude, i've followed him for awhile as he did concept art

but he started his own 3d asset brand, and the work is insane

the only downside is the expense and the non-exclusive license

[sour bolt]

mmmh

[gusty star]

but i can tweak the models or mess with them or whatever to personalize it

and its all ready to go for UE5

[sour bolt]

sure but you couldnt commercially gain from it

or just re sell as is? as i have a pack i cant ship in a game but any ammt of renders i can do no problem

[gusty star]

Oh wait, is that an Epic thing?

you can't use boughten assets in a packaged game?

or..?

[sour bolt]

no its a external clause its not off the store just a pack of really good cars

[gusty star]

cuz i think BMS license allows for commerical projects

ah shit hey

[sour bolt]

mmmh

tbh they are all licenced cars i guess so id be in hot water with a corvette and a london bus

[gusty star]

ah okay that makes sense

[sour bolt]

legit question. is it me or is "do you want to make aaa cars" and shows matrix demo polar oposites? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VylXXDwzcE

[gusty star]

seems a bit short of a video for a AAA car tutorial, and on skimming its just some light blueprint stuff?

[sour bolt]

yeah its the trailer to a 3 hr course lol

[gusty star]

o

lmao

[sour bolt]

just i thought matrix cars were guff

[gusty star]

they look alright, the environment is really the selling point imo

[sour bolt]

wouldnt even go that far myself. the buildings my god

[gusty star]

i guess more specifically its the lighting that really feels cinematic to me

but thats just lumen eh?

[sour bolt]

yeah

[gusty star]

wild

[sour bolt]

it was showcasing nanite too i guess with all the planes it hAD TO DRAW

[gusty star]

lmao

the future is exciting tho, these new tools/tech offer some pretty crazy possibilities

[sour bolt]

did expect all cars and buildings to be enterable. so i was going in with a high expectation

[gusty star]

ah so fair

[sour bolt]

then to find out the "interiors" were photographs 🤯

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/room-gif-24687645

[gusty star]

I feel like there is an answer, and its not complex

valheim, while simplified in its building system, does generate some pretty interesting structures and interiors, enough to add some mild spice and flavour

so its gotta be possible

[sour bolt]

think i played valheim a few times it was good

long time back though

[gusty star]

Valheim is honestly amazing

and its still getting updates

[sour bolt]

nice

i think i stopped when my friends base became unusable

[gusty star]

so fair

i usually ran the server, so i kinda had to be on a lot

[sour bolt]

mmmh

[gusty star]

but i have the most flexible schedule out of my friends so whatever

[sour bolt]

i didnt like how it was cross world though

[gusty star]

yeah that was a bit lame, had to make new characters for each world

[sour bolt]

so i could take stuff from my server to theirs. or i could have a mod that changed only my gater rate but it spawned it all for them too

[gusty star]

ye eh

[sour bolt]

hmmm maybe thats a mod we had then to portal between our servers.

i remeber it getting quite unbalanced quick

[gusty star]

my friends and i agreed not to cheese it too hard as we wanted the vanilla experience

[sour bolt]

damn u making me wanna fire one up with a brick ton of mods on XD

[gusty star]

xD

theres probably even more mods now ngl

[sour bolt]

exactly

been a good year or so

[gusty star]

Hmm.

I think the Hearth and Home update came out maybe a year ago

but theres been smaller updates since then, to the Swamp and Mountains biomes

new mobs, gear, etc

the next major update is in the works but it feels like its soon

they've been teasing the major features of it for a bit now

[sour bolt]

cool i got lost in mods XD

[gusty star]

Sorry haha, i think im to blame for that lol

[sour bolt]

kinda. wont lie was a fun game. we broke it. but new stuff to break it with 🙂 im only waiting for a project to package anyways.

[gusty star]

woo woo

so fair

what are you working on project-wise?

[sour bolt]

currently just trying to get 3d niagara smoke simulations to actually package. otherwise main project is an open world ish gta arma3 forza crossover type game.

[gusty star]

I feel that lol, i remember you saying that earlier now. But yo that sounds poggers, word.

[sour bolt]

variety of race tracks and hostile zones and generat quests/jobs to do so to speak.

[gusty star]

noice

sounds fun!

[sour bolt]

lol so far i have a landscape the ue base car and a mortar XD

[gusty star]

hahah its a start

[sour bolt]

yup

[gusty star]

and its all uphill from here!

xD

[sour bolt]

i know the whole things going to be a struggle but piece by piece it gets there.

[gusty star]

ye ye str8 up

[sour bolt]

vertical to release XD

[gusty star]

xD

[sour bolt]

and tbh the more i see the morte im like i want that too

like dna based animal breeding right down to land managment XD

[gusty star]

lmao that sounds wild ngl

[sour bolt]

then a friend suggested hed never seen a real true to ype fishing game where fish stocks depleted and they "thought" about feeding breeding and dying XD i was like nooooo your right. i need a lake XD

none of that rng i have a fish it escaped stuff

[gusty star]

lmao sounds about right lol

thatd be interesting for sure

I'm planning a sci-fi gladiator game, sort of a looter-shooter but with ultra realistic mechanics and sci-fi wet dream tech/weapons/goofiness

[sour bolt]

but i am not epic not one of their evangelists so... i doubt its pulled off its one of those "wheres the game" moments

[gusty star]

none of that take 100 bullets none sense. you get shot, you bleed and maybe die

[sour bolt]

oh yeah for sure

get shot bleed almost out become anemic and die in a few weeks

[gusty star]

lmao straight up

[sour bolt]

of plauge or something

[gusty star]

idk how far im gonna take it

but if i did a sort of game mode that was like a roguelite, a league mode so to speak, then thered be rng mechanics like that and character perma death

cuz games like death road to canada are crazy fun ngl

[sour bolt]

well i had also decided i may implement disease/z virus. like some games the idea is your bitten youll die unless u heal up. well my twist was gonna be u get bitten its 1 life per server maybe. and you may or may not turn into a zombie which youll always be unless killed. then you can be human again. but you dont know if or when you will turn even after using healing stuff. u may not even turn. but your team mates have a choice play roulette or one day be raiding when you turn on them XD

[gusty star]

lmao so fair

[sour bolt]

then paywall character creation!

[gusty star]

I definitely want a disease system/mechanic as part of the injury system i plan to build. idk if im gonna do a z virus but probably other stuff

[sour bolt]

tbh i had loads of fun playing plauge inc.

something like that but mmo would be cool

[gusty star]

the only drawback to a realistic injury system is that it makes gunfights significantly shorter

[sour bolt]

tbh though how far do you go before you actually harming the game play? i guess its a fine line.

[gusty star]

so im gonna have to either add NPCs for more targets, or add shields and armour and that

yeah eh

you gotta balance it for sure

[sour bolt]

yes but then also the dopamine of winning and also when lit up and you dont have a chance to turn round just like in arma u walk one wrong path and your destroyed by an apc tank

[gusty star]

yeah 100 percent eh

[sour bolt]

jump scares are golden for streaming too good publicity if you get popular. streamers all screaming at the game then saying "but in reality im enjoying it"

epic

[gusty star]

yeah eh

[sour bolt]

ever play the operation flashpoint games?

[gusty star]

nah but they looked fun

[sour bolt]

looked yeah played no

[gusty star]

i've played a ton of different shooters tho, all the way back to SOCOM on PS2

[sour bolt]

ai seemingly was inteligent. if u flanked one time next time they holding that position while flanking you. true trauma

[gusty star]

lmao damn

ai will def be a challenge

ive worked on a Utility AI system in Unity but i was still early stage in it when i took summer break

[sour bolt]

indeed if its realism youll want them to mantle and crawl gaps. as p;ert of path finding. and lord knows how you do that

[gusty star]

basically it uses numeric scores to determine what the best action is at any given time

ye

[sour bolt]

i think ue has that

a scored weighted grid

[gusty star]

interesting

[sour bolt]

navmesh or use the other thing.

i forget what it was. think was part of a behaviour tutorial

[gusty star]

the thing was that you had actions right, and then each action like Work or Play or w/e had a list of considerations that also had a score

so Work would have Energy Level or Motivation or wahtever as a consideration

[sour bolt]

sounds like a behaviour tree mixed with some randomness

[gusty star]

it was very flexible

ye its similar for sure

[sour bolt]

yours sounds interesting. like a want/needs system

[gusty star]

lemme see if i can find the tutorial i followed, its very thorough and explains the ideas clearly. its implemented in c# but i dont think itd be hard to rewrite in c++ honestly

[sour bolt]

mmmh

[gusty star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejKrvhusU1I

[sour bolt]

sweet

[gusty star]

Its based upon some GDC speaker keynote ideas kind of thing so its legit

[sour bolt]

could even maybe recreate it with bps no need to write it up.

[gusty star]

yeah honestly

[sour bolt]

gdc

[gusty star]

its very very simple under the hood

gdc = Game Developers Conference

basically where all the next level technical stuff gets conferenced

[sour bolt]

ahhhh thought so. iv watched tons.

[gusty star]

its kinda like TED talks tho, its hit and miss

[sour bolt]

90% informative 10% daft

[gusty star]

but most, if not all speakers are game industry veterans so

[sour bolt]

indeed

worth watching

like most ue live streams worth dropping in for but recently its ue5 showcase this showcase that.

opening prebuilt levels. need more tuts guys XD

[gusty star]

yeah, they are just focused on whats new and shiny

theyll get back into the regular rhythm soon enough i bet

(hopefully lol)

[sour bolt]

sure except each new release fixed something that showcased a new thing XD

[gusty star]

lmao

I'm glad i'm waiting till september to start developing ngl

give it a bit more time to polish

[sour bolt]

probably be stable ish by then

[gusty star]

ye

everyone will be back to the grind, etc etc

[sour bolt]

yeah off panic mode back to general use.

[gusty star]

yeah

[sour bolt]

dont get me wronf though the engine is powerful.

[gusty star]

yeah no kidding

[sour bolt]

especially for free off shelf thing

[gusty star]

millions of lines of code can't be understated, its a v valuable thing

i bet too some epic staff is on summer vacay as well. idk where the epic offices are but i thought they were a german company no? and europe tends to be fairly generous in terms of paid time off eh?

[sour bolt]

i thought it was world wide

remote work now

[gusty star]

yeah it probably is at this point

[sour bolt]

head quiaters in cali/florida but workers everywhere. and i also assume epic is veeeery flexiable

[gusty star]

ah okay

yeah makes sense, i dont see why they wouldnt be

WFH is the future, offices are outdated and dead

well having every employee on site anyway

[gusty star]

oh weird lol

[sour bolt]

yeah it is. and those that do get replaced by robots first 😉

[gusty star]

ye eh lol

atleast the option to go indie is always there

its easier than ever to make a game by yourself

might not be easy per se

but its possible now

[deep copper]

depending on the game it's easy yes

[sour bolt]

for sure.

if you wanted a angry birds clone bam

[gusty star]

yeah true

[sour bolt]

rocket lueage bam

[deep copper]

a game where you open it and close it, bam

[sour bolt]

something like what we have discussed. the only bam is head off your desk

[gusty star]

xD

[gusty star]

or cookie clicker looool

[sour bolt]

what about a game where you must keep it open but it tries to close itself bam XD

[gusty star]

steam top 250 what what? fkn cookie clicker lol

[deep copper]

lol auto crashes

"not bug but feature"

[sour bolt]

yeah but hides the exe before hand.

hmmmm

[deep copper]

it amazes me how clicker games are a thing

but it's also fairly hard to make for beginners

[sour bolt]

insanity clicker was awesome

add in a macro lovely game

[deep copper]

i recall helping one with it,
and then i ended up practically making the whole game

since then i haven't helped anyone xD

[gusty star]

im probably gonna end like up the DF dude (Tarn Adams)

stuck working on a passion project for a decade

update to UE6

and then release

xD

[sour bolt]

but yes simple yet hard fundamentals of tick use and array usage. mixed with careful use of variables or in a few months it wont work any more. kinda a good starter clone in a way id guess

[deep copper]

ue6 - you write prompts for an ai which generates the game

[gusty star]

unreal you hear us? billion dollar idea here..

[sour bolt]

no ue6 is end game and not back compat for ue5

[deep copper]

it's a feild to get creative or go mediocre

[gusty star]

i was kinda kidding ngl

but honestly i can't predict the future and have no idea what this game im planning is actually gonna take to build, time-wise

[sour bolt]

yup. simple or over the top only 2 ways

[deep copper]

already there with meta humans and huge triangles and what not
honestly i never thought something like nanite would be there so soon lol

[sour bolt]

id not expect it to ever exist

[gusty star]

yeah

i was blown away by the whole nanite thing

coding magic

[deep copper]

same, i was like "when we get there we would be using holograms i guess"

[sour bolt]

because its some true matrix stuff. which means realistically we could all be nanite

[deep copper]

ayo don't give me existential crisis

xD

[gusty star]

ye eh 🤔 hmm damn that simulation theory

[sour bolt]

hahaha

its one you cant disprove 😦

[deep copper]

it's a theory that's super possible

[gusty star]

ye

[sour bolt]

tbh i cant wait for nanite interactive foliage to come

[deep copper]

think about it, from a caveman's perspective, if we can get to where we are now.

matrix stuff does feel real

[sour bolt]

1 blade is all u need in the levels memory ram wont be needed any more

[deep copper]

skeletal mesh nanite when

is it out?

[sour bolt]

5.1

[gusty star]

computers are just sand we tricked into thinking with ~~ electricity~~ lightning

[sour bolt]

hahahaha

thats a comment and a half

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2GSNmN77wY

i bult 5.1 for this alone^^

[gusty star]

dayumn

everything i see about UE impresses me lol

im pretty fresh

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[gusty star]

but the foliage brushes and shiet even are chefs kiss

[sour bolt]

soon

interactive smoke fire fog and grass. can stroke the lawn while the neighbor burns down

all in 4k vr

[gusty star]

yeah im finna need that

o.o

[sour bolt]

lol

[gusty star]

the future is now, damn

[sour bolt]

tbh chaos impressed me before nanite. but then soon to be nanite chaos.......

billions of dust particles blown off a wall

[gusty star]

holy shitake

[sour bolt]

and thousands of bricks and gpu not breaking a sweat 144 frames hopefully

[gusty star]

never considered it but ye

gonna be i n s a n e

[deep copper]

i heard people did not like chaos as much, maybe it's just the memes

[sour bolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlQOpAQ4Wno

[gusty star]

chaos is the new physics engine eh?

[deep copper]

yeah

[sour bolt]

destruction

replaced apex

[gusty star]

I see

hmm

wild

[sour bolt]

thats play in editor too packaged game is usually more performant frm wjat iv seen said

[gusty star]

yeah 🤔 good point

[deep copper]

previous was PhysiX right?

yeah editor has a lot of , debuggers and other fancy stuff, so package is faster 💪 🫂

or so i have heard

[gusty star]

ye

[sour bolt]

i think physx was the fluids and cloth simulators. that are now niagara

[gusty star]

and its even performant when it comes to BP vs C++ (in packaged builds)

Its hard to benchmark but from my understanding BP isn't terrible

C++ is faster obv

[spice viper]

damn this game keeps make bad decision after bad decision

[gusty star]

but BP is aight, depending on the game/codes complexity

[sour bolt]

its optimised when u write the c++ i guess bps have bloat in it

[sour bolt]

time to apply

[deep copper]

or so i have also heard in #cpp , but they oddly also preach about using BP at times

it's a confusing world, but everything has it's time and place i suppose 🫂

[sour bolt]

i would guess use bp where the utility presents a dirty quick need and then c++ for more in depth tweaking.

however i grabbed a js addon so i can use node js instead XD

[gusty star]

lmao

[deep copper]

don't worry! ue is about to drop verse for all the scripting language lovers

which i heard was also not all that great actually

[gusty star]

there is some screenshots of the syntax

[deep copper]

but rumours rumours

[sour bolt]

what their own lang?

or go multi lang?

[deep copper]

scripting language, so it's supposed to support bp and c++ way i guess

[gusty star]

https://twitter.com/saji8k/status/1339709691564179464

Saji (@saji8k)

Looks like @EpicGames is bringing scripting to @UnrealEngine. They showed it off working with @FNCreate on today's livestream, so UE5 support is likely. It is a completely new programming language and it might be called Unreal Verse.

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heres the twitter post with the screenshots

[deep copper]

i heard a discussion about a weird use of "?"

oh there's a weird "?" in the screenshot

[gusty star]

ye they also use ^ oddly as well lol

GameStarted^ : bool = false

[deep copper]

^-^

[deep copper]

why does it have :
is it following the python indentation thing

[sour bolt]

it seems like oine of them help?true:false ermmmm i forget the name

[deep copper]

ternary

[sour bolt]

basically an if statement

thats the one

[gusty star]

i think so, I find the lack of semi colons disturbing xD

[sour bolt]

but it could suggest its hyper code not real just leaks for leaks sake. or its the compiled abk or whatever it is being debugged

[deep copper]

i find the lack of 🫂 disturbing

[gusty star]

true eh

[sour bolt]

human readable format binary

[gusty star]

hmm well i guess honestly its best to wait and see.. ill give it a shot even if the initial impressions are meh

[sour bolt]

what u got to lose

a bit of time?

[gusty star]

exactly

everything to gain!

[sour bolt]

indeed. pixels absorbed = knowledge

[gusty star]

unlimited.. no! Unreal Powaaaaaa!

[sour bolt]

oh my ue5.1 works no crash woot

[celest musk]

did you compile just the plugin or whole ue5-main?

[sour bolt]

whole ue5 main

because 2 reasons 1 i didnt know i could just compile the plugin 2. why not

#interactive nanite foliage XD

[celest musk]

2.) because you may now be stuck on 5.1 😄

[sour bolt]

well i am kinda seen as i need this effect in the game XD

cant deal with a 2d plane fire

[celest musk]

well, most things in 5.1 work kinda stable now

[sour bolt]

i mean it would do i suppose till ue5.1 came out.

i may try just compile the niagra and niagra fluids and see if that fixes it in 5.03

however. i dont mind bugs and crashes in game.

and users shouldnt too.

[celest musk]

yea, no one will ever complain if you ship a crashing mess 😄

as long as the smoke works well

[sour bolt]

indeed. the crash will become part of it

logs it crashed last you wake up in hospital with a doc telling you about your nervous breakdown XD

or how u just escaped death and fell into a coma make a meme of it

[celest musk]

xD

that sounds indeed like something that could make your users forgive you one crash

[sour bolt]

sure

[celest musk]

but that only works once

then it will get even more annoying

[sour bolt]

id not be forgiven for spawning a crashing entity like a naninte missingno thats an insta crash for anywone within 100 miles.

and it teleports

unless its a feature

[celest musk]

that's kind of how cheaters in GTA crash other players

they are somehow able to spawn "infinite" invisible objects near other players, so that you run out of video memory

[sour bolt]

spawn a null item for the other player and poof off u go

shady

[celest musk]

and rockstar sitting there eating popcorn for years

[sour bolt]

yeah coz shark cards still being bought

[celest musk]

too busy counting their money

[sour bolt]

yeah their office looks like the heist room

[celest musk]

the casino vault room?

[sour bolt]

tbh though id not know why someone would get a kicj off that

[sour bolt]

any after a few missions discarded cash everywhere

[celest musk]

you mean the cheaters?

[sour bolt]

yeah

[celest musk]

oh they are poor little souls

trust me, they enjoy that

[sour bolt]

what do they gain except a tiny hit of something

[celest musk]

specially when you call them out

[sour bolt]

suppose thats like ppl i know who go facebook soley to have an argument in a channel they dont care for

[sour bolt]

u cursed me XD not sure how to get the plugins installed to the 5.1 properly. one of 2 plugins built but other said nope. 😦

[celest musk]

time to test the cat game

here goes my life...

meow

[sour bolt]

huh?

and im a dumbdumb

[celest musk]

got stray because everyone seems to like it

and because i havent played a good game for months

[sour bolt]

i was running 3.02 100% id updated on dev machine and here. the .03 hotfix must have addressed the issue. 2 days screaming about nothing XD damnit

[sour bolt]

ahhhh

goat simulator but for a stray cat