pc crashed even after fixing psu

[lucid sluice]

i was using my new pc i bought 2nd hand and changed the psu cause the games would initally crash after a little more or less on more intensive situations. i figured it might be gpu but i still changed psu and it solved all my problems. but now i tried laying but it worked but after a while it ended up crashing like last time. i have a ryzen 5 5500 gtx 1060 16gb ddr4 and 512gb ssd

[tall stump]

what error message

or does your computer just freeze or shut down

[lucid sluice]

well when i played it would freeze the screen entirely then come back after a lil maybe 2 mins but rolbox would be closed

@tall stump

should i just swap my gpu

[lucid sluice]

heres it explained

[tall stump]

This doesn't look like a GPU issue at all

This looks software related

Ever reinstalled Windows on your PC?

[lucid sluice]

yes after i bought it

clean reinstall

heres temps

[lucid sluice]

clean reinstall with usb flash drive

[tall stump]

Where did you get the setup files from?

[lucid sluice]

windows websites

for some reason some guy was also questioning me when i downloaded the files

he said the boot menu seemed off or sum

[tall stump]

Can I see what your boot menu looks like for reference?

[hearty jackal]

CAUTION: Make a backup of your files before reinstalling Windows, as it will erase everything on your system drive, including your personal files.

You can download the latest Windows 11 installation media from Microsoft here:
https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

You can download Windows 10 installation media from Microsoft here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[tall stump]

These are the official links; if you didn't obtain through them you probably should remake your installer

[lucid sluice]

how can i show u

[lucid sluice]

yes this is where i went

i used installation media

[tall stump]

There shouldn't be anything wrong then

[tall stump]

Since you can't use the computer's screenshot functions during that time, use your phone camera.

Do you use anything that touches the installation after installing?

[lucid sluice]

wym

[lucid sluice]

gotchu

how can i get to that place tho

[tall stump]

If you don't see any such boot menu it probably isn't a problem at all

[tall stump]

Any third party "debloater" "disable telemetry" "remove Windows components" etc.

[lucid sluice]

like do you want me to go into the boot menu?

[tall stump]

But if you're asking you probably don't use them

[lucid sluice]

yea no clue man

[tall stump]

alright

[tall stump]

Does only Roblox crash or something else can?

[lucid sluice]

i can try fortnite

if you want

[lucid sluice]

ok i just tried a match and its lowkey working i died pretty early tho icl

@tall stump

it was doing really good till i opened map then it crashed cuz the map was all fricked up for some reason

[tall stump]

Neon colours or glitches tiles?

Suspecting GPU is going out. Can you use MSI Afterburner to intentionally reduce both sets of clock speeds (core and memory) while not touching temp or power sliders?

See if the GPU still has issues. (Note: restart your PC first, and don't forget to apply these on Windows startup)

[lucid sluice]

how do i reduce the sets of clock speeds

and apply what on windows startup

sorry gang for the questions i just dont use afterburner even tho i installed it

[tall stump]

numbers are order

If your MSI Afterburner uses a different theme, items may be laid out differently

[lucid sluice]

do you want me to reduce as much as possible

[tall stump]

Yes.

[lucid sluice]

better?

[tall stump]

OK. Now apply this.

Then, test your games again. Does it ever glitch?

[lucid sluice]

testing rn

@tall stump bruhhhh

is it dead gpu?

[tall stump]

When the game freezes at the end, does Windows still respond when you ALT-TAB, press Start, or press CTRL-ALT-DEL?

[lucid sluice]

unresponsive

[lucid sluice]

i already tried thise

and ctrl windows shift b

matter of fact its actually still frozen idk why

wow its still on frozen screen

[tall stump]

PSU?

[lucid sluice]

600 watts evga bronze

I have 700 watt psu from that brand on Amazon that the person left me

@tall stump

[tall stump]

Full model name?

For both

Starting to suspect either the PSU or the GPU

[lucid sluice]

heres the one i have newly installed

heres the one it came with

@tall stump

[hearty jackal]

The tier list for PSUs can be found here:

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

As a rule of thumb, you should buy a c tier when you build is below $1,000, B tier for below $2,000 and A tier above that. It may be worth checking the prices of some of the higher tiers as they may be cheaper than lower tiers.

You should not overbuy the wattage on the PSU, as PSUs are most efficient when at about 80% load.

[tall stump]

Anything with a voltage select switch is bad

[tall stump]

This one should be OK for lower power cards when new.

So... I think we ruled out the PSU

if you were using the EVGA

Do you still have your old GPU?

[tall stump]

That said have you also tested with the other PSU anyway?

[lucid sluice]

as in the ones i got to try?

[tall stump]

yeah

gotta rule out the GPU

[lucid sluice]

I got two really old ones from my uncle they are GPU’s but they are fairly old and aren’t even good

but I was told by this one guy who owns a shop to still try it

[tall stump]

similar power rating should be good (anything with at least 160W TBP)

that said, if they're older than the 1060, be aware that they might die instead

(even the 1060 isn't fresh either...)

[lucid sluice]

oh yea bro they definitely wont work then

😭

[tall stump]

Welp

[lucid sluice]

At this point what other options do i have

ik a friend who has a 3060

but that might a difficult proccess and it might take forever

@tall stump can i not try

like a cpu/ram tedt

[tall stump]

yes. you're running out of things to test with your existing hardware

[lucid sluice]

fudggeee

[tall stump]

you need to rule out the GPU, but you don't have another GPU

[lucid sluice]

ok so i cant use thess old graphics card

would the 3060 work?

[tall stump]

yes

[lucid sluice]

ok well till then what could i do

[tall stump]

Test with that 3060 in the situation that would have crashed the 1060.

[lucid sluice]

ok bet

i am doing prime 95 test rn with this guy and he said the small fft test was very good

now doing large

[tall stump]

keep in mind that this only tests the CPU

[lucid sluice]

he said cpu and memory

but ye

[lucid sluice]

@tall stump BRO I THINK I FORGOT TO TELL YOU

THE SHROUD I CHECKED IT YESTERDAY AND IT MOVES LIKE THIS😭

[lucid sluice]

idk where to go from here

someone said to reinstall drivers

[tall stump]

might as well

[hearty jackal]

If you have any issues with your graphics card after updating the Nvidia drivers, please perform the following:

• Remove the existing Nvidia driver by running Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) here: (AutoDDU can be told to use a custom driver link, or you can use the manual version located here.). For a utility to automate DDU as much as possible follow this guide.
• You can download drivers from the official site below. (You will need to specify your GPU and operating system.) On a laptop, both iGPU and dGPU drivers should be installed for full functionality and performance.

NVIDIA
AMD
Intel

• Ensure that your WiFi/Ethernet/Internet is turned off or disconnected before installation of the driver (Running the .exe file) to prevent Windows Update from overriding the driver installation.
• Disconnect all other monitors (except one main monitor) and all unnecessary USB devices before driver installation to prevent device conflicts or black screens.
• During driver installation, please select the Custom option when prompted and ensure that Peform a clean installation is checked/ticked before proceeding with the installation.
• Please restart your computer after the driver installation is completed.

[tall stump]

keeping in mind that driver hangs usually don't freeze the entire computer... usually the rest of the computer is still alive and will TDR the GPU

[lucid sluice]

@tall stump

DUDE

I FIXED IT

IT WAS A DEAD GPU

i tried the other gous

gpu

[tall stump]

There you go. It's the risk of used GPUs... if it's dead not much you can do

[lucid sluice]

Yea man

new gpu

?

[lucid sluice]

i did risk using the old
gpu but it was worth

[tall stump]

Might as well. Want to make a new thread or keep using this?

(You did try it with a borrowed 3060 right?)

[lucid sluice]

well no i used the old gpu

I was told by several people that using the old GPU is completely fine regardless of power supply or anything else

[tall stump]

Alright

[lucid sluice]

thank you so much for your help man

i’m gonna aim to get a 30 series but because of my budget right now I need to upgrade some stuff so I’m gonna try and upgrade the fans and then also get a GTX 1660 Super or ti

[tall stump]

Please don't get a 1660 today

You will end up paying twice since you need to get a 3060 down the line anyway

Consider folding the budget for both and get the card you would be able to afford instead

[lucid sluice]

@tall stump do u think i should save for a 3060

?

downtalked to 50

[tall stump]

If you acutely need a GPU now I guess you could but again, risk of used GPU

[lucid sluice]

dude it lowk crashed on me again

the activate windows sign is finally on

oh ok it had ipdates

[tall stump]

If this is with a different GPU your cause of crashes might be something else

[lucid sluice]

it was once

i didnt update anything

it works now

[tall stump]

Hmm

Remember to give it a few days

[lucid sluice]

Alrighty

Il wait till Monday

should i be using it till then?

[lucid sluice]

bro wth

https://spec-ify.com/profile/8bdc05f4
looked up command prompt

took forever to load
checked event viewer today and it says tpm something
but i check tpm in bios and it was enabled

@tall stump