#Game lag

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bleak raft
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i have a 4070 and i am not running high FPS im consistantly getting low fps can anyone help

mystic tapir
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We need a lot more information. What are you playing? What settings? What specs are the rest of your PC?

bleak raft
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Fortnite i dont know the settings but Its an intel core i7 4070 32gb of ram

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oh wait

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low textures

mystic tapir
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What i7? Check your settings

bleak raft
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intel core

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intel core 7

mystic tapir
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That doesn't mean anything, they're all Intel core 7

bleak raft
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oh

mystic tapir
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What generation?

bleak raft
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how can i check that

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bc im new to this'

mystic tapir
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Device manager

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Navigate to processor/CPU core

bleak raft
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12th gen

mystic tapir
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Okay so that should be plenty sufficient

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What driver version does the Nvidia app say you're running?

bleak raft
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sorry dont mean to be annoying but how do i check tyhat also

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that*

mystic tapir
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Do you have the Nvidia app installed?

bleak raft
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yes

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control panel?
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mystic tapir
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No, the app

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But you can check it from the old control panel program too

bleak raft
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im downloading it

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where?

mystic tapir
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NVIDIA Control Panel menu, select Help > System Information

bleak raft
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did i leak something?

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personal or sum

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??

mystic tapir
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Uh, don't think so but there's a lot of information there that I don't need

bleak raft
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ok

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so what else do u need

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because my friends have the same things as my pc

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but they run much better FPS

mystic tapir
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Try updating your driver?

bleak raft
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i tried

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doesnt work

mystic tapir
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Seems like it's running the December one, before DLSS4

mystic tapir
bleak raft
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i download

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and it improves a little

mystic tapir
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You said it doesn't work?

bleak raft
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yea]

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it downloads

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but it doesnt really do anything

mystic tapir
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Um...

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Did you install it?

bleak raft
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im about to re do it

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i dont know how to download it

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i cant fidn the app

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find

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nvm

mystic tapir
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Well, if you're doing it manually you may have to do it in safe mode iirc

bleak raft
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found it

mystic tapir
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But it's easiest to do via Nvidia app

bleak raft
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this?

mystic tapir
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Yeah

bleak raft
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mb for wasting ur time btw

mystic tapir
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You're not wasting my time lol

bleak raft
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ALR DONE

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mb for caps

mystic tapir
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Also should've asked but what monitor resolution, settings do you have, and how's it running compared to friends' PCs? What monitor, settings do they have?

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And same CPU for each of you?

bleak raft
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240hz

bleak raft
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and they have 180hz and 240hz

mystic tapir
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Same monitor resolution?

bleak raft
bleak raft
mystic tapir
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What resolution and settings do each of you have?

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I'm assuming everything is equal?

bleak raft
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1920x1080

bleak raft
mystic tapir
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Check what driver version they're running and see if you get similar performance by running their version, if this new driver doesn't fix it

tepid quest
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At this point:

restive gladeBOT
bleak raft
tepid quest
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Run 3DMark's suggested benchmark and post the result here

mystic tapir
mystic tapir
bleak raft
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wait i need re download steam

mystic tapir
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Update your driver to their version

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You should be able to manually choose version through Nvidia app and redownload, reinstall driver

bleak raft
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ok its downloading 3D benchmark

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what if it isnt running as it should bne

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be?

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?

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alr it tryna run

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are you their

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you guys their

untold lion
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Please don't use the PC or press any keys/mouse while running the 3D mark

bleak raft
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ok i didnt

bleak raft
untold lion
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Hmm, can you check what's the error?

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press the V button at the "An error occured"

tepid quest
# bleak raft

The GPU load level is bizzarely low and crashes down to 0% at the tail end

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get GPU-Z and show the first tab

restive gladeBOT
tepid quest
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@bleak raft

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Oops

bleak raft
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what happened

tepid quest
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misping the other guy

bleak raft
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ok

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what do i do now

tepid quest
bleak raft
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no

tepid quest
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Rerun the benchmark and try to find what error it said

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Also, while we're at it: do you use any live wallpaper apps (e.g. Wallpaper Engine)?

bleak raft
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yes

tepid quest
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exit all of them

restive gladeBOT
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Live wallpapers (e.g. Wallpaper Engine) use system resources and can be considered like running a full-screen game at all times, with the performance drop accompanying it. For best performance while gaming, exit them fully. Do not pause them.

The same also applies to automated wallpaper changing, which will cause a momentary load spike every time the wallpaper changes. This applies even to Windows' own wallpaper changer! Pause the wallpaper changes, or disable it, before playing games, to prevent unexpected periodic stutters.

bleak raft
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i dont have it running

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rn

tepid quest
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paused = running

bleak raft
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can someone hop in a disc call or no?

tepid quest
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must be fully exited

bleak raft
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it is

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its not loaded up

tepid quest
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alright, try re-running the test

bleak raft
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its just in my library

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but can someone hop un a vc?

tepid quest
bleak raft
tepid quest
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Same if you are trying to use Discord

bleak raft
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so i have to close discord

tepid quest
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I can see you have several other apps running while 3DMark is running

bleak raft
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yep

tepid quest
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Please close EVERYTHING, including other game launchers/stores, and only run 3DMark

bleak raft
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done

tepid quest
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Does it crash instantly or does it try to run for a while?

bleak raft
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it trys to run for a little

tepid quest
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hmm

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OK, get HWINFO

bleak raft
restive gladeBOT
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HWINFO has two modes, Summary and Sensors. Normally, when asked, you'll want to use the Sensors-only mode to get the information that may be needed (e.g. temperatures, power usage, clock speeds.)

When opening HWINFO, make sure to tick "Sensors-only" so that it does not open the summary display first. Then click Start.

On some hardware, HWINFO may ask if you want to monitor them or not, as there may be some potential conflicts if they were monitored. Usually these aren't important enough to matter if it's being monitored or not.

Once HWINFO's sensor status window open, look for the relevant sections and screenshot them. If you're unsure, screenshot the entire thing. This window is scrollable, so you'll need to scroll and take multiple screenshots.

If you know what you're doing, these are the items you'll probably need (names may vary; below are samples from Intel CPUs; some items may not exist for your particular system):

  • Core VIDs
  • CPU Package Temperature
  • Core Thermal Throttling
  • Package/Ring Thermal Throttling
  • CPU Package Power
  • PL1 Power Limit (Static)
  • PL2 Power Limit (Static)
  • MOS
  • VR VOUT
  • +12V
  • Vcore
  • CPU Fan
  • Pump Fan
  • GPU Temperature
  • GPU Hot-spot
  • GPU Core Clock
  • GPU Power
  • GPU +12V
  • GPU Fan
  • GPU Performance Limit Reasons
  • Windows Hardware Errors (WHEA)
tepid quest
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Screenshot everything in HWINFO. Post it here.

bleak raft
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their

tepid quest
# bleak raft

That's the Summary. You want sensors. Click it at the top left.

bleak raft
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top left?

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like what do i click in their

tepid quest
# bleak raft top left?

The screenshot you posted is within a larger window, no? In that larger window, click it on the toolbar.

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You posted a cropped screenshot. This button is not within the window you captured.

bleak raft
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thats the entire screen shot]

tepid quest
# bleak raft

The "smaller window" is covering your "larger window", hiding the "Sensors" button

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Drag it off and you'll see it

bleak raft
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ohh

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done

tepid quest
# bleak raft

Now scroll and take screenshots again and again until you reach the end

bleak raft
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done

tepid quest
bleak raft
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where is that

tepid quest
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Retake the screenshot of it, with the "GPU [#0] heading at the top"

tepid quest
bleak raft
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that?

tepid quest
# bleak raft

OK. Have HWINFO stay open. Now attempt to run 3DMark. Even if it crashes, just check this again. What are the values now?

bleak raft
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its runninh

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running*

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my screen js flashed

tepid quest
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OK, what does HWINFO loko like?

bleak raft
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the same

tepid quest
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thonk OK, this is getting weird

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Have you ever tried reinstalling drivers on this PC?

bleak raft
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no

restive gladeBOT
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If you have any issues with your graphics card after updating the Nvidia drivers, please perform the following:

  • Remove the existing Nvidia driver by running Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) here: (AutoDDU can be told to use a custom driver link, or you can use the manual version located here.). For a utility to automate DDU as much as possible follow this guide.
  • You can download drivers from the official site below. (You will need to specify your GPU and operating system.) On a laptop, both iGPU and dGPU drivers should be installed for full functionality and performance.

NVIDIA
AMD
Intel

  • Ensure that your WiFi/Ethernet/Internet is turned off or disconnected before installation of the driver (Running the .exe file) to prevent Windows Update from overriding the driver installation.
  • Disconnect all other monitors (except one main monitor) and all unnecessary USB devices before driver installation to prevent device conflicts or black screens.
  • During driver installation, please select the Custom option when prompted and ensure that Peform a clean installation is checked/ticked before proceeding with the installation.
  • Please restart your computer after the driver installation is completed.
tepid quest
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Please note: as you'll be playing Fortnite, please deliberately use an older driver. Avoid anything in the 57x.xx series.

bleak raft
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which one

tepid quest
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Because you should not be using a 57x.xx driver for Fortnite

bleak raft
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these are the new ones

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which one

tepid quest
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561.09, as recommended by Epic for Fortnite

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Try this one

bleak raft
tepid quest
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yep

bleak raft
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downloaded it

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its loading

tepid quest
restive gladeBOT
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If you have any issues with your graphics card after updating the Nvidia drivers, please perform the following:

  • Remove the existing Nvidia driver by running Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) here: (AutoDDU can be told to use a custom driver link, or you can use the manual version located here.). For a utility to automate DDU as much as possible follow this guide.
  • You can download drivers from the official site below. (You will need to specify your GPU and operating system.) On a laptop, both iGPU and dGPU drivers should be installed for full functionality and performance.

NVIDIA
AMD
Intel

  • Ensure that your WiFi/Ethernet/Internet is turned off or disconnected before installation of the driver (Running the .exe file) to prevent Windows Update from overriding the driver installation.
  • Disconnect all other monitors (except one main monitor) and all unnecessary USB devices before driver installation to prevent device conflicts or black screens.
  • During driver installation, please select the Custom option when prompted and ensure that Peform a clean installation is checked/ticked before proceeding with the installation.
  • Please restart your computer after the driver installation is completed.
tepid quest
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Then, install the new driver while still disconnected from the Internet

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After everything is said and done and NVIDIA App is started, turn on the Internet again

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Do whatever you need to do, then restart PC before you start playing.

bleak raft
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wait a minute

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i have to be disconnected from internet

tepid quest
bleak raft
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how do i uninstall

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driver

tepid quest
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This is normal. The setup package will still work with no internet.

tepid quest
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Download this beforehand, then extract it...

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the first exe is another self extracting exe, so extract THAT again by running it

bleak raft
tepid quest
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This is the self extracting archive

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Once this has done, you'll notice that here's one more folder

bleak raft
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yea

tepid quest
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Inside it is the actual DDU app

bleak raft
tepid quest
tepid quest
bleak raft
tepid quest
bleak raft
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yo

tepid quest
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then look carefull at the bottom

bleak raft
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i was on call with someone

tepid quest
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you have an extra folder right?

bleak raft
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yes

tepid quest
bleak raft
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yea ik

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i hung up

tepid quest
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The graphics drivers will be removed, and the PC is going to go offline

bleak raft
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ok

tepid quest
bleak raft
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what do i press

tepid quest
# bleak raft

OK. Wait.

See the "Display Driver Uninstaller" at the top? That's the app you want.

However, for best results, you're supposed to be in Safe Mode to do this

restive gladeBOT
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If you are encountering issues performing a DDU, please do the following:

  • Use the latest DDU Version from Guru3D and ensure you have extracted the exe before booting into safe mode (Until you see the Display Driver Uninstaller.exe in the extracted folder)
  • Run the DDU program in Safe Mode

If you have issues booting into safe mode, you can do the following:

  • Restart the computer.
  • At the sign-in screen, hold the Shift key down and then click Power > Restart.
  • After the computer restarts to the Choose an Option screen, select Troubleshoot > Advanced Options > Startup Settings > Restart.
  • After the computer restarts, a list of options should appear. Select 4 or F4 to start the computer in Safe Mode. If you must use the Internet, select 5 or F5 for Safe Mode with Networking (Please note that only Ethernet works)

If the Startup Settings do not appear, do the following:

  • Press the Windows Key + R.
  • Type msconfig in the dialog box.
  • Select the Boot tab.
  • Select the Safe Boot option and click Apply.
  • Choose Restart to apply the changes when the System Configuration window pops up.

Note: Once you are done using Safe Mode, go back in and undo the Safe Boot option.To exit safe mode, restart your system or perform the following if it doesn’t work:

  • Press the Windows logo key + R.
  • Type msconfig in the Run dialog. Select OK.
  • Select the General tab.
  • Under Startup Selection options, select Normal Startup and press OK.

On systems with multiple GPUs, such as laptops, please only run the DDU on the affected device/which drivers to remove. Note: If you run the DDU to uninstall AMD or Intel drivers, you may reinstall the chipset drivers before reinstalling the graphics card driver if your GPU and CPU are from the same brand (AMD GPU + AMD CPU and Intel CPU + Intel Arc GPU) or if your Intel CPU has an iGPU (Non F CPUs)

tepid quest
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keep in mind that if you want to stay on discord, do it on your phone

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since obviously, your PC won't be online

bleak raft
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i cant

tepid quest
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no phone?

bleak raft
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i dont have it on my phone

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nah i do

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js i cant download

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17+ 😭

tepid quest
bleak raft
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alr ima click it

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and turn off internet

tepid quest
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12+/Parental Guidance on Android

bleak raft
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lol

tepid quest
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unfortunately, Android is a mess

bleak raft
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i guess]

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anyways

tepid quest
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on the other hand, Apple is Apple

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alright, you know what to do now

bleak raft
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i turn off internet right?=

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and click it?

bleak raft
tepid quest
bleak raft
tepid quest
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  • run DDU
  • when asked, accept defaults
  • select GPU
  • select NVIDIA if it hasn't done so
  • select Clean and Restart
tepid quest
bleak raft
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do i enable safe mode

tepid quest
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Right before you click "Clean and Restart", turn off your Internet

tepid quest
bleak raft
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it wont let me press

tepid quest
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OK. Select device type > GPU

If it chooses Intel or AMD automatically, select NVIDIA

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Then,disconnect from the Internet, click "Clean and restart".

tepid quest
bleak raft
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turning off internet

tepid quest
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Man I hope it works now

bleak raft
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yo

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i restarted

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my screen look weird

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like really weird

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what do i do know

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now

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bro

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hellooo

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my computar look weird

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can u help

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nvm

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its better

tepid quest
bleak raft
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yea

tepid quest
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But anyway

bleak raft
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but its fixed

tepid quest
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Now go to the downloads folder

bleak raft
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yea

tepid quest
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install the driver you downloaded earlier

bleak raft
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ok

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its downloading

tepid quest
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when prompted, install with the NVIDIA App, then use custom installation. ask it to delete old driver settings and stuff

bleak raft
tepid quest
bleak raft
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installing

gleaming badge
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hey one of u guys should help meh

bleak raft
gleaming badge
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ok

bleak raft
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goodbye

gleaming badge
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byeee

bleak raft
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its downloading

tepid quest
bleak raft
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my screen was flashing

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now its done

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its still dwonloading

tepid quest
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it's done only when NVIDIA App opens again

bleak raft
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i needa restart

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my pc

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im restarting

tepid quest
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Did it finish?

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If it did, now retest 3DMark. does it now work?

bleak raft
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yo

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craziest thing

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i fell asleep

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while i was doin it

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ill do that later today

bleak raft
bleak raft
tepid quest
bleak raft
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its npt stutturing

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but its not running as it should

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and now i have a problem w my pc

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it wont connect to internet

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like i can find the button

untold lion
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Have you plugged in the ethernet cable to your PC or making sure WiFi is turned on and connected to the internet?

bleak raft
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i dont have ethernet

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and i tried reseting my pc

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it takes to me setup up internet driver

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and my adapter it cat find it

tepid quest
bleak raft
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how do i do that tho\

tepid quest
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Your computer likely has a default downloads folder. Look for it

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Copy this file to a USB external drive or your Android phone

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then connect that drive to your PC and run the driver installer for your Wi-Fi