PC Build

[floral quail]

I need a PC for mostly video editing and work. The budget is around 1000 eur. What parts should i buy?

@odd ether could you help me?

[odd ether]

What software are you going to use?

[floral quail]

adobe and openshot

[odd ether]

Adobe what?

(They have multiple software)

[floral quail]

premier pro

mostly

[floral quail]

should i go w amd or intel?

[odd ether]

gimme a few extra moments to check openshot

[odd ether]

is this computer going to be also used to game?

[floral quail]

no

[odd ether]

iGPU OK or must there be a dGPU?

[floral quail]

id like to have a gpu

id buy a used one tho

[odd ether]

Wait for Intel Battlemage GPUs to release and then decide

I'd have told you to get a cheap Intel Arc but it's too close to new gen

[floral quail]

need the pc now

for work

[odd ether]

as for the CPU, since OpenShot is not hardware accelerated, CPU is king

[floral quail]

what about premerie pro?

[odd ether]

It can take advantage of GPU acceleration

hmm

@candid escarp time to shill Intel

OK with walling the budget limit or want me to go for better cost/perf?

[floral quail]

cost/perf

[odd ether]

(since a GPU is not needed, a big chunk of the cost won't exist)

(iGPUs count as GPUs)

[floral quail]

yeah ik

[odd ether]

since AMD won't give you a good iGPU without sandbagging everything else you're basically stuck with Intel

Now...

Using PCPartPicker (or whatever site you'll be buying/building from), try to build a computer with any of the following processors:

Core i7-13700K
Core i7-14700K
Core Ultra 7 265K

With at least 32 GB of DDR5-6000 C32 RAM (as a kit of 2 exactly, so a 2x16 bought as a single pack)

It should also have a 1TB NVMe PCIE4 x4 SSD that has a DRAM cache and sequential speeds reaching at least 7GB/s in both reads and writes. You should still provide the model just in case.

For the PSU, refer to the following link I'll post.

The rest is up to you. Subjective stuff and all that.

[blazing scaffold]

The tier list for PSUs can be found here:

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

As a rule of thumb, you should buy a c tier when you build is below $1,000, B tier for below $2,000 and A tier above that. It may be worth checking the prices of some of the higher tiers as they may be cheaper than lower tiers.

You should not overbuy the wattage on the PSU, as PSUs are most efficient when at about 80% load.

[floral quail]

alright thanks and one more thing

if id want a gpu

which one should i get?

[odd ether]

pre-plan ahead and make sure you buy a PSU about 200-300W larger

then for the GPU you'd get, AMD is still dead last

which leaves NVIDIA and Intel

then here, the question becomes: prioritize gaming or encoding?

[floral quail]

encoding

have a gaming pc already

so just to boost video editing performance

[odd ether]

Wait for Intel Battlemage

[floral quail]

excluding that?

is like a 3060 ti good?

[odd ether]

If you're buying a video card for encoding: keep in mind that Intel's media engines are already extremely good, especially if you had the one in the Ultra 7 (which is better than what even the 40 series cards have)

[odd ether]

So in this context, no

At least, with an iGPU, you can opt to build with no dGPU

If you find the iGPU's built in media engine isn't enough for your needs, then you buy a more suitable dGPU to add on

better wait than to waste the money buying a downgrade

[floral quail]

so is the Core Ultra 7 265K better than the i7 13700k w 3060 ti for example?

[odd ether]

For a non-gaming context, yes.

The 265K can encode at a much higher resolution and frame rate (up to 8K120), and supports encoding directly in AV1.

Hardware-accelerated encoding is supported for resolutions of up to 8K @ 120 Hz with 10-bit HDR, with supported formats that include VP9, AVC, HEVC, and AV1.

[floral quail]

what about regular tasks like word, excel, chrome and stuff like that?

[odd ether]

they're very similar

[floral quail]

i've found an i7 14700k with a rtx 3070 for 650$ and the ultra 7 265k is 500$, so should i still get the ultra 7 265k?

[odd ether]

Yes, since you are not gaming, and the media encoder in the latter is better than both in the CPU and GPU of the former.

If you find it to be not enough for any reason, you can add a new video card later, but I doubt it won't be

again, this depends: it's only for these two apps, and you aren't also doing rendering jobs?

[floral quail]

it's not for me but i think they'll be doing rendering from time to time

and if they do decide that they'll want to play games sometime, the i7 14700k with the RTX 3070 will be better yes?

[odd ether]

rendering what using what?

[floral quail]

3d objects, images using blender i believe

and also videos

[odd ether]

In this case, the build will need an NVIDIA GPU

[floral quail]

so in this case, is the i7 14700k with the RTX 3070 good?

[odd ether]

The 3070 has somewhat low VRAM (8GB). I'm not sure if your jobs may need a larger VRAM, so account for that (consider 4060 Ti or higher/3090)

[floral quail]

also

what kind of motherboard should i look for?

[odd ether]

I'd avoid overclocking, so you'd just be looking for boards that can support both the CPU itself and enough storage drives for your needs. So higher end B and any Z

for the VRMs, check the amount of phases and if both sides (top and left) are covered with additional cooling (heatsinks)

[floral quail]

What do you think?

[odd ether]

Double check your RAM and Motherboard choices. Most boards have DDR4 and DDR5 variants. You appear to have picked a DDR5 board but is using DDR4 RAM. They can't be mixed.

[floral quail]

Thanks, didn't notice.

Canceled my order and upgraded the ram to DDR5

Apart that the PC's good yes?

[odd ether]

Pretty much, aside from it missing a GPU. Besides the used 3070 you mentioned earlier, do consider the just-announced Intel B580

$249 for the best encoders and 12GB of video RAM for blender needs

Coming in two weeks

[floral quail]

Yeah ill just wait and see since some parts will take about a month to deliver