Screen tearing

[long walrus]

I hop on my PC in hopes of being able to play siege yet every second there is a lag on both my monitors.
Ive rollbacked my drivers then it stops for around 2 minutes then happens again

[bronze olive]

Ur not hte only one

[bronze olive]

Does it happen on other games too

[long walrus]

it's not just games it's on my whole PC. if I'm on Google to if I'm playing any game

[delicate vapor]

Do not use Driver Rollback and assume that everything will still work

https://github.com/Evernow/AutoDDU_CLI/wiki

Uninstall your now-limbo-state drivers fully and reinstall them (this will do it for you.)

Do not change any settings in "manage 3D settings".

Enable G-Sync if your monitor isn't a certified G-Sync Compatible or better monitor manually, if needed and your monitor is an AMD FreeSync monitor.

Enable V-Sync and NVIDIA Reflex in-game.

Test if it still tears. (For R6S, you can run the benchmark and observe the scene. It should not tear if G-Sync is set up correctly, and V-Sync is on.)

[bronze olive]

If it still tears is it a monitor issue?

Also @delicate vapor it says in the article I need to get the intel display app, is that necessary or is just nvidia

[delicate vapor]

Do you have a laptop?

That part is only relevant for these systems

[long walrus]

@delicate vapor Thanks for the help, however the problem still persist. Could it be due to AMD freesync?

[delicate vapor]

See if these tears stop with no freesync. I am assuming you are using an uncertified monitor that is also not FreeSync Premium either

[bronze olive]

No I have a pc

[long walrus]

Okay I tried and it had no effect really. Im not sure if my monitor is "uncertified". Its a 240hz alienware

[bronze olive]

@delicate vapor

it shows different things from the guidebook

[bronze olive]

Idk if this can help since im not a pro but try redownloading your display adaptors? unless the ddu already does that for u

@delicate vapor

after im done can I delete it

[delicate vapor]

If this is the case, please show all the screenshots. AutoDDU and the regular DDU have different instructions, but if you are sure it has finished, feel free to delete it or leave it be

[bronze olive]

btw im finished it was the same thing

[delicate vapor]

Remember that if you used the regular DDU, you need to download your own drivers. Windows will usually download a slightly old driver for you automatically.

[bronze olive]

I got all the drivers reinstalled

nahnah i used autoddu thx

[delicate vapor]

But if that doesn't happen, or you want a newer one... you know what to do

nice

Now check if you're still getting tearing

[bronze olive]

Ill check over if my game works again in a sec i got school in 5 min

[delicate vapor]

You should be able to see if it's the case in "Set up G-SYNC" inside NVIDIA Control Panel

[bronze olive]

Someone told me it could be ghosting tho

[delicate vapor]

Also, this probably should be known already, but only use the "fullscreen" mode in that setup screen. It also covers borderless screens.

[delicate vapor]

Nah, this is obvious vsync off tear

[bronze olive]

Should I enable vsync when I test it out

[delicate vapor]

You must enable Vsync even on a Gsync/freesync display

[bronze olive]

Ok thx

[delicate vapor]

G/freesync will still tear with vsync off!

[bronze olive]

Wait

how do I know if i have freesync/gsync

[delicate vapor]

Open NVIDIA Control Panel.

Do you see "Set up G-SYNC" on the left side?

[bronze olive]

Nah i dont

So i dont have it

[delicate vapor]

What's your monitor model?

Many AMD FreeSync monitors have Adaptive Sync turned off by default on the monitor

[bronze olive]

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/62791d08

[delicate vapor]

This monitor does not have either a DisplayPort or a HDMI 2.1 input. FreeSync can only be used with AMD video cards. FreeSync on this monitor cannot be used on NVIDIA video cards.

So... yeah, you need a better monitor.

You'll have to live with screen tearing if you keep using this monitor.

(also, freesync isn't really useful on this monitor anyway, with a max refresh of 60hz)

(you need a range of at least 2x, and ideally 2.5x, the minimum, which usually is 48 on cheap monitors)

[bronze olive]

Wait but what if the ddu fixed my tearing

[delicate vapor]

You do not need G-Sync or FreeSync to have a tear-free display.

You only need them if you also want to minimize lag at the same time, as this way, you can prevent bumping right up to the refresh rate maximum or accepting halved frame rates.

Especially since on a 60Hz display, there's no way of displaying any framerate between 60 and 30 smoothly

[long walrus]

Ive done it now with vsync on

Do I need to restart to see results?

if it helps this is an example

[delicate vapor]

Remove all USB devices except your mouse and check again

[long walrus]

Nothings working sadly

[delicate vapor]

What CPU and GPU?

[long walrus]

rtx 3070 and amd ryzen 7 3700x

[delicate vapor]

See if these stutters stop if you downgrade the PCIe link speed of the x16 slot to 3.0 if it was set to Auto

If the video card was mounted vertically, mount it normally and recheck

(You will need to put in a keyboard again to prevent POST errors!)

If the stutters keep happening, list all the apps in "Installed Apps" (right click Start to find this place)

[long walrus]

every single one ?

[delicate vapor]

might as well (someone else might check for you in the meantime, if not I'll come back)

[delicate vapor]

See if the stutters stop with Riot Vanguard exited

[long walrus]

its not open

should i just delete it

i dont even play val

who cares ill do it

yeah didnt work

man this is a drag

[bronze olive]

@delicate vapor

Thank u so much]

U fixed 2 issues

Geforce experience being broken and my screen tearing

[delicate vapor]

Do the stutters stop in Windows Safe Mode?

[long walrus]

in the DDU process?

ok

it stopeped in safe mode

stopped

[delicate vapor]

OK. Let DDU do its job, then once the system restarts, let Windows update drivers for you. Once that happens, check if this driver bugs out.

[long walrus]

ok I did ddu again

is this what you mean?

[delicate vapor]

It looks like you have used AutoDDU if it installed the latest possible version.

Still getting these mouse stutters?

[long walrus]

You know

I wasnt to hasty to say it cause I dont want to give false hope

BUT IM NOT

i cant get too happy now

I gotta secure it for another hour

[delicate vapor]

Well, the latest driver does fix screen flickering in unrelated news

[long walrus]

it does it every time

[delicate vapor]

well, report back if it comes back... and also if you get screen issues

[long walrus]

yeah I really appreciate the help you gave me

honestly means a lot

[delicate vapor]

Fixed?