I own a 4070ti super and was playing friends vs friends with my friend. He has a 4070ti and he was getting around 230 fps while I was getting 180 fps in the same environment. What is happening? I haven’t used ddu yet but I don’t think that could be the issue. What do I do?
#4070ti super running way slower than 4070ti
stuck spruce
simple nacelle
You need to keep the settings identical or it'd be meaningless.
Also, what CPU and RAM?
Same for the display.
stuck spruce
We were running the same settings, the game has very minimal settings to change. I have a 13600k 5600mhz Corsair vengeance. Uhh 1440p 165hz for me and him
grave folio
What cpu does he have? Are he/you running anything outside of the game? Any modifications?
Also, what game?
stuck spruce
We are probably running mostly the same apps on the outside of the game. He’s running a 7800x
grave folio
Well, i'd double check. Anything can make a big difference, Sam/Resize Bar, etc. Wonder if the game favours the 7800x?
simple nacelle
We were running the same settings, the game has very minimal settings to change....
Can you post a screenshot of Task Manager > Performance > Memory?
(It should look like a graph, and contains stats about the slots in use and the speed.)
simple nacelle
Can you take a photo of the back of your PC? I see the iGPU is on
stuck spruce
its not plugged into the motherboard
simple nacelle
Fair enough. However, a question remains: is the desktop truly idle? Some GPU load remains. I'd expect 0-1% doing nothing.
stuck spruce
wdym my friend has a (technically worse) gpu and is running discord in the background plus other apps and gets way more fps then me
simple nacelle
wdym my friend has a (technically worse) gpu and is running discord in the backg...
Your computer. The Task Manager indicates that your GPU is doing some work. Even running most desktop apps shouldn't amount to anything more than 1-5%
Desktop apps that aren't rendering (changing contents) can be treated as 0% load
Do you use Wallpaper Engine?
stuck spruce
idk
simple nacelle
Yeah. Wallpaper Engine is like running a game ALL THE TIME
Close it fully before playing
simple nacelle
Mega bruh indeed
stuck spruce
lemme try and get back to you
stuck spruce
Mega bruh indeed
same issue
simple nacelle
Hmm, then it's probably something else, but to confirm, how is the GPU graph?
stuck spruce
I also looked at a video running red dead 2 and their 4070 ti super was running around 30-40 fps more than me in the same scenario, resolution and graphics settings.
simple nacelle
While on the desktop, with Wallpaper Engine closed. (You probably should show the GPU 1 section in Task Manager)
stuck spruce
simple nacelle
I also looked at a video running red dead 2 and their 4070 ti super was running ...
Red Dead Redemption 2
This game's quality slider is resolution and hardware dependent. For best results, match the text labels on the individual settings than relying on the preset slider.
stuck spruce
Better but when wallpaper engine was running it only consumed 12 watts
simple nacelle
OK. There doesn't seem to be any obvious hardware issues, so I'd probably run 3DMark Time Spy as a sanity check for performance. Post the results screen.
(You can get the Basic Edition. On the Steam store page for 3DMark, click "Download Demo".)
stuck spruce
Ok
stuck spruce
stuck spruce
OK. There doesn't seem to be any obvious hardware issues, so I'd probably run 3D...
Good, bad?
Not good
simple nacelle
Good (the page lists graphics scores)
simple nacelle
Your system is performing right on the average, so I think you actually have no issue, just you're likely running into CPU things
stuck spruce
Your system is performing right on the average, so I think you actually have no ...
It’s less than a normal 4070 ti
simple nacelle
Especially since you've paired your computer with a slow RAM
stuck spruce
How
simple nacelle
Graphics Score: 24132
stuck spruce
5600 does not seem slow
simple nacelle
5600 does not seem slow
@pure sorrel it's time
stuck spruce
> Graphics Score: 24132
Ah mb
stuck spruce
<@398672830574886912> it's time
What would be better
simple nacelle
What would be better
Before we continue, what's the timings on the RAM? (it looks something like "36-36-36-76" as an example.
(The slow RAM comment is because 5600 RAM is JEDEC spec nowadays, and the CPUs likely can handle 6000 or even higher with ease)
(Latency is also important though)
But anyway, your graphics card is definitely running fine
Also, for your friend's 7800X, does it have a 3D at the end?
stuck spruce
Before we continue, what's the timings on the RAM? (it looks something like "36-...
cl 36-36-36-76
stuck spruce
Also, for your friend's 7800X, does it have a 3D at the end?
no
stuck spruce
Also, for your friend's 7800X, does it have a 3D at the end?
Sorry he has a 7700x
I don’t think this would change anything but I am overclocking the gpu a tad
simple nacelle
Can you get your friend to run the same 3DMark test and post their results here?
(You can forward/paste the image only. He won't need to join.)
stuck spruce
I don’t think I will be able to get him to do that
It might just be that the game is badly optimized
simple nacelle
Perhaps. As far as we can see, you have no issues
Probably just CPU limits with the game
pure sorrel
5600 does not seem slow
It’s slow as shit when good kits are 8000+
stuck spruce
It’s slow as shit when good kits are 8000+
but having lower timings is also better?
pure sorrel
but having lower timings is also better?
Yeah, but it’s not 1 for 1. A 5600 mt/s kit probably has shit timings.
stuck spruce
Yeah, but it’s not 1 for 1. A 5600 mt/s kit probably has shit timings.
if you didn't see before the kit that I have has 36-36-36-76 timings or just 36
pure sorrel
if you didn't see before the kit that I have has 36-36-36-76 timings or just 36
Yes I saw lol. I run tighter timings on 8400 mt/s. 5600 + 36 is probably a Samsung or micron kit.
Realistically, if you wanted to index on tighter timings you’d run a SK Hynix kit doing 6000 mt/s cl30, AMD Zen 4 more or less excels right there
simple nacelle
Probably time to buy new RAM either way to make that Intel fly
7000+ kits?
If no brain
Drop in and enable XMP, probably done unless you have a bottom 1% cpu
Or 6000c30 for very assuredly safe
Either way 5600cl36 is sandbagging
Meanwhile I'm winging it with ddr4
Tbh just don't fret too much about the RAM as long as your performance is still within expectations