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steel drum Feb 5, 2024, 9:16 PM

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If your issue is related to specific game dunno could be game engine

flat arch Feb 5, 2024, 9:29 PM

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steel drum https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

Show pics of what exactly?

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also sorry for the multiple posts, joining the server was buggy

steel drum Feb 5, 2024, 9:37 PM

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flat arch Show pics of what exactly?

Cpu and gpu temps

flat arch Feb 5, 2024, 9:38 PM

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can I show it as an overlay on top of my game in fullscreen cause I think it only happens in fullscreen, not sure

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gonna have to test tomorrow

steel drum Feb 5, 2024, 9:47 PM

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Then show it tomorrow no rush

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gl for your exams

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 10:51 AM

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steel drum gl for your exams

ty for that

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I'm just playing Geometry Dash

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but the thing is when I tab out of the game it's fine

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I think that's an issue

steel drum Feb 6, 2024, 10:59 AM

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flat arch I think that's an issue

FPS drops cuz of thermal throttling

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Are those temps at idle?

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:00 AM

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nah I had the game open

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paused

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sooo what do I do

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how does that even happen

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like what is throttling, what does it mean

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:02 AM

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It means part of the processor is getting so hot that it's having to restrict performance to stop it overheating.

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:03 AM

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that's not normal tho

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:03 AM

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Although it being a high powered laptop. It might be somewhat expected.

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:03 AM

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oh

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:04 AM

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It also looks like only a couple cores are doing it. What does it look like if you click the arrow next to "core temperatures" that should show you the temperatures for each core.

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:06 AM

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ruby hornet It also looks like only a couple cores are doing it. What does it look like if y...

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relaunched game

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:07 AM

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Do you get similar high temperatures in other games or just this?

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:08 AM

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well I can tell that I don't get lagg in other games like this, can see temperatures tho

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:09 AM

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flat arch well I can tell that I don't get lagg in other games like this, can see temperat...

Where's CPU Package Power?

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I'd only be concerned if this number goes below 35/45/54W depending on the CPU

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since thermal throttling but package power still very high/exceeds PL1 would be a nothingburger on laptops

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:11 AM

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hold on 53 is idle, is that normal

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:11 AM

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flat arch hold on 53 is idle, is that normal

Are fans on auto or max?

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:11 AM

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It's a laptop so probably yes

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:11 AM

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tacit trail Are fans on auto or max?

auto

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:11 AM

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on a laptop, I wouldn't worry too much about 50-60 idle if fans can stop

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since they'd rather keep quiet

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:11 AM

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I've had a quick Google and there are a fair few posts of people complaining about that laptop throttling

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:11 AM

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after all, it's nowhere near dangerous

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(Lemme guess: it approaches 30-40C when you full blast the fans at idle?)

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:12 AM

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I don't think these temps are what is causing your performance issues though

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:12 AM

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yeah

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:12 AM

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doing that in class is probly not the best idea rn xd

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:12 AM

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especially since

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I have no idea what your CPU Package Power is

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if it's 99C but, say, at like 90W

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it's a nothingburger

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:13 AM

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tacit trail I have no idea what your CPU Package Power is

yea hold on lemme get that

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:13 AM

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make sure to do the exact same thing that causes it to flag throttling

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:14 AM

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well it just throttles every time I have the game open so

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that right

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why does it not throttle when I use a monitor tho ._. at least, I'm assuming here, cause I don't get lag on monitor

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cause GPU does everything?

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:18 AM

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flat arch that right

You're not throttling

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:18 AM

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Hmm I wonder if it's doing something weird with the graphics switching. And it's doing something daft like trying to use the igpu normally, but the dgpu when the monitor is plugged in

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:18 AM

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You're probably just running out of extra thermals/turbo

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since it looks like your CPU peaked at 91W

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:19 AM

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Is your laptop plugged in at the moment?

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:19 AM

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most laptops can't really hold a 91W CPU

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:19 AM

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ruby hornet Is your laptop plugged in at the moment?

yes

ruby hornet Feb 6, 2024, 11:19 AM

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tacit trail most laptops can't really hold a 91W CPU

It's got a 157w turbo xD

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:20 AM

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tacit trail You're probably just running out of extra thermals/turbo

wdym thermals/turbo

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:20 AM

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Most modern CPUs usually come with two power ratings

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TDP/PBP/PL1

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and whatever the fuck is going on with the other one

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on laptops and some oem desktops the cooling is just enough for PL1 indefinitely

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PL2 is not a guarantee and is a matter of how quickly heat soak happens

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:23 AM

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alright that is a bit much to understand for me rn but what is the conclusion rn

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I am not throttling you say

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What is the problem, why is it hot, what do I do

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:28 AM

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This is normal behaviour for modern CPUs. Modern CPUs can run at extremely high speeds without errors, but at a great power cost

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And with great power comes with great heat

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It's mostly to do with the fact that you can get some things done REALLY quickly and go back to idle

and also that if less cores are used outright it's harder to max out the power usage

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so technically speaking there is no problem

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your low FPS issues likely are caused by something else

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:30 AM

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but I don't think GeometryDash consumes that much performance tho

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:30 AM

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I think I'll tell you to check 3DMark

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Basic Edition can be obtained from the Steam store page. Download Demo on the right of the page. Run Time Spy once, and post the results screen.

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:30 AM

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flat arch but I don't think GeometryDash consumes that much performance tho

Do you play with vsync off?

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:31 AM

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no, it's on

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:31 AM

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What's your display refresh rate

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:31 AM

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240

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:32 AM

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Even basic-looking games can become toasty on the CPU if you let them actually get that high, but I don't really play that game, so make of that what you will. Either way, use 3DMark - that way I can actually confirm if it's working within expectations

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:33 AM

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aight, will do when I'm home

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in the end, it's probly bad code by the dev tbh

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what about undervolting? read reddit posts suggesting that

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:35 AM

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If it's a 13th gen CPU, forget about it

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but just to be sure, I think it's a HX right

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You might be able to, but if I were you I'd probably just leave it alone

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:36 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/13v8e33/legion_7i_pro_gen8_solution_power_throttling_fix/?xpromo_edp=enabled

Did that, which helped

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:36 AM

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since you are now dealing with stability gremilins

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:36 AM

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alright

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:37 AM

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tacit trail but just to be sure, I think it's a HX right

yeah

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I mean, as I said, it all works fine when connecting to my monitor, even on the same laptop screen

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it's so weird

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:42 AM

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dGPU only mode for both?

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:43 AM

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running only dGPU mode rn yea

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:44 AM

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the OP got deleted, but anyway, I'll probably going to ask you if doing the following helps the performance

In NVIDIA Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings, change the power management mode here to Prefer Maximum Performance. Then, apply, and restart the entire PC. Check the same game again; do the FPS drops cease without an external monitor?

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(Note: this workaround will increase idle and low-load power draw.)

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:47 AM

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okay

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you don't think it's a hardware issue tho, do you

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:49 AM

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power management weirdness is what I'm thinking since the issue goes away as soon as the gpu needs to deal with two monitors

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 11:52 AM

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you do not think it has to do with the CPU despite HWinfo saying it's throttling

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:54 AM

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flat arch you do not think it has to do with the CPU despite HWinfo saying it's throttling

because you need to go below cpu tdp to actually count

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throttling just means that the cpu is slowing down from its maximum possible speed

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 2:09 PM

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tacit trail (Note: this workaround will increase idle and low-load power draw.)

it's still just a workaround yk, seems to work

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 2:12 PM

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hmm

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now try with only external display on

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but with normal power

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(restart pc after applying before testing)

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 2:14 PM

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yea gotta do that later, still in class

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 3:55 PM

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tacit trail now try with only external display on

how do I turn off laptop display

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oh found it

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 3:59 PM

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tacit trail now try with only external display on

it happens with external monitor too

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I also get fps drops in the menu so it can't rly be the game

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 6:29 PM

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What would you compare with and without the external display? @ruby hornet

steel drum Feb 6, 2024, 6:33 PM

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set bios to default
Restore nvidia control panel 3d settings
enable gpu hardware sch
First set these basic things

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then check temps and tell me the highest for both cpu and ram

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 6:52 PM

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steel drum - set bios to default - Restore nvidia control panel 3d settings - enable gpu h...

bios default is Hybrid mode tho, right

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should I switch to dGPU

steel drum Feb 6, 2024, 6:53 PM

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keep it hybrid

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if dgpu fails igpu can save ya

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 6:58 PM

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it's at least stable but laggy, I only wanna use dGPU

steel drum Feb 6, 2024, 7:03 PM

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dw

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what's your monitor refresh rate

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 7:23 PM

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alright it seems like I fixed the issue... I am on Hybrid mode, switched to use dGPU only from the Nvidia control panel and it works even smoother than dGPU mode was working :)

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dGPU mode in BIOS does some weird stuff ig

steel drum Feb 6, 2024, 7:30 PM

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flat arch alright it seems like I fixed the issue... I am on Hybrid mode, switched to use ...

usually nvidia selects dgpu. In some rare cases you gotta manually select dgpu

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 7:31 PM

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yeah but it still has to run through optimus which has performance loss

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 7:34 PM

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steel drum usually nvidia selects dgpu. In some rare cases you gotta manually select dgpu

wait optimus is enabled weather I want it or not externally right?

steel drum Feb 6, 2024, 7:34 PM

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what happens when You keep physx pref auto?

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insetead manually selecting to dgpu

flat arch Feb 6, 2024, 7:38 PM

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uses dGPU

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testing rn

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the laptop runs way better in general

steel drum Feb 6, 2024, 7:50 PM

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I think it's probably using dgpu the whole time then?

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forgot you were using laptop lol

tacit trail Feb 6, 2024, 11:42 PM

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flat arch yeah but it still has to run through optimus which has performance loss

If your laptop supports Advanced Optimus (as the option appears in NVIDIA Control Panel), if that is turned on, the effect of it and running in dGPU-only mode is identical... if the game is at least DX10

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If this laptop is new enough to be a 13th gen Intel and comes with Windows 11, don't underestimate CASO either when running in hybrid mode

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What performance do you get when you leave the graphics in hybrid mode? Does it stutter?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 6:17 AM

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tacit trail What performance do you get when you leave the graphics in hybrid mode? Does it ...

No stutters at all with Hybrid mode and setting the dGPU in the Nvidia control panel. Now the only issue is that when I use a second display, the Nvidia control panel has Optimus selected and I get a bit of lag.

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Also my laptop has Advanced Optimus

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 6:21 AM

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flat arch No stutters at all with Hybrid mode and setting the dGPU in the Nvidia control p...

Optimus is pretty much the default mode if you didn't change, so some elaboration is needed

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I think I'll write down the situation...

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Assuming the issues only appear when a second display is connected:

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normal Optimus/hybrid: no stutter
dGPU only mode: stutter
dGPU only mode + forced max perf: no stutter

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Is this correct?

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(Might make it easier if you screenshot the screen where you change the GPU settings)

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 6:32 AM

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Look my Laptop has a BIOS mux switch that switches the laptop dGPU mode. With that on, the iGPU basically doesn't exist. So you gotta seperate between that option and setting dGPU "manually" in Nvidia Control settings.

What we had at first (dGPU mode):

Playing on either one display: laggy & unstable
Playing with both on: smooth

Now Hybrid mode:

No monitor connected + dGPU in Nvidia Control panel: smooth (even smoother than dGPU mode
Playing on external display (with laptop screen on) + Nvidia Control Panel auto selecting Optimus option (when plugging in monitor): a bit laggy

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 6:33 AM

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...I think your laptop actually doesn't support Advanced Optimus

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Since it's clear the steps you're listing is different.

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 6:34 AM

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How does Adv Optimus look like usually

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 6:34 AM

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flat arch How does Adv Optimus look like usually

The option will appear in NVIDIA Control Panel as its own page, selected on the left side

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If "Manage 3D settings" and "Adjust video image settings" were each a page, then it'd be another page

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 6:35 AM

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That's the page I refer to I think

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actually wait

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oh

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on laptop soon wait

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 6:36 AM

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https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5097/kw/Optimus/session/L3RpbWUvMTcwNzI4Nzc0Mi9nZW4vMTcwNzI4Nzc0Mi9zaWQvZlVFWVk5djdDcjR4NEtCX3pFUmZZNXVScW1mQjN6NlFMUnBWVDNvVWxzeUdsSmlTZ05IcSU3RUE4blIwbWFseVZGVWlfdkowQlVOX1NPc3VXUFV2QVhlbDBOSFJ0S3FkNERsU0FCeUppTXhYeGElN0Uzb1BpSFI5UWhGUSUyMSUyMQ==

NVIDIA Support

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Do you have this page?

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(You may want to reset BIOS settings)

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 6:44 AM

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Yes

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But when I plug in monitor, it auto selects optimus

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 6:45 AM

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flat arch But when I plug in monitor, it auto selects optimus

Take a screenshot of "Configure Surround, PhysX" with the monitor connected.

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Due to the way external display outputs work, sometimes some outputs only work one way or another.

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 6:47 AM

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well now gotta wait half a day cause school, but is it normal that it only shows the monitor as display without the laptop display

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inside control panel

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 6:49 AM

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Definitely strange if it's not turned off

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 6:52 AM

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tacit trail Take a screenshot of "Configure Surround, PhysX" with the monitor connected.

tho quite sure it selects the dGPU there on auto

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if set to auto

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but I set that to dGPU too

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 6:53 AM

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flat arch tho quite sure it selects the dGPU there on auto

I want the screenshot

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Text is meaningless

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The top section has how display connections and GPUs are laid out.

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 6:58 AM

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alright gotta wait then

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:25 PM

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tacit trail I want the screenshot

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 12:27 PM

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OK, with your laptop, every output is running off dGPU

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:27 PM

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then performance should be the same?

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 12:27 PM

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tacit trail

What's the contents of this page?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:27 PM

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what I told ya

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:29 PM

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flat arch

and note how laptop screen isn't on there

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I mean, the screen itself is on but isn't shown there

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doesn't a cpu usually calculate physics

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no idea

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 12:35 PM

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flat arch doesn't a cpu usually calculate physics

It's more relevant for some older games that could use hardware accelerated physics. just leave it at auto

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:35 PM

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aight

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 12:35 PM

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flat arch

In this case, you probably can verify if the iGPU is still active. If it is, it should appear in Task Manager.

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:36 PM

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It is

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appears there

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 12:38 PM

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Can you provide a link to your laptop's support pages?

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Since an external display is involved some of the usual rules with optimus may not apply

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:39 PM

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wdym? Lenovo's support?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:43 PM

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tacit trail Can you provide a link to your laptop's support pages?

wdym with laptop's support pages?

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 12:47 PM

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flat arch wdym with laptop's support pages?

most laptop maker's have somewhere you can find more details, drivers, and other stuff for a given laptop

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:48 PM

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https://spec-ify.com/profile/1570e66e

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This should do the job?

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oh not found sry

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 12:49 PM

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no unofficial pages

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(specifically, I want to see the laptop's manual)

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:51 PM

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https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/legion-series/legion-pro-7-16irx8/82wr/82wrcto1ww/pf4nzsnj
Does that show u everything?

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 12:58 PM

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Hmm

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Are you using an adapter to get a DisplayPort output?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 12:58 PM

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no

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connected directly

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with a newly bought cable xd

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 1:01 PM

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tried the other type-c port?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 1:03 PM

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there's just one with DP?

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 1:04 PM

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flat arch there's just one with DP?

1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer and DisplayPort™ 1.4)
1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer, Power Delivery 140W and DisplayPort 1.4)

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 1:04 PM

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right hold on

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same thing

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I don't think it's the connection cause it works with both monitors in dGPU mode yk

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 1:18 PM

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Um, then, what is the problem then?

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But anyway

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I think probably best to now try to put everything back to where it was, so disconnect every monitor, and change the video mode to regular Optimus. Restart the PC.

I think the laptop doesn't have any issues driving its own display, so after this, then, on the page where you select the mode, choose dGPU-only mode (the last option), restart. once the computer is restarted, before continuing, show the contents of the following:

the left side of NVIDIA Control Panel
Task Manager > Performance
Device Manager > Display adapters

Do not connect external monitors

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 1:21 PM

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aight

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Should I change the mode through the BIOS or Vantage driver?

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 1:25 PM

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flat arch Should I change the mode through the BIOS or Vantage driver?

before continuing, I want you to restore BIOS defaults and put Vantage settings to the defaults.

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 1:26 PM

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aight

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 1:26 PM

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Once you're done with them, then, you can start checking what happens with the GPU set to Optimus in NVIDIA Control Panel. After restarting, then set it again to dGPU only mode, and restart again

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that's when you should check the contents of the three things i listed without connecting any external monitors

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 1:47 PM

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Hybrid-mode + optimus

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flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 1:49 PM

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tacit trail I think probably best to now try to put everything back to where it was, so disc...

You mean the monitors with display adapter?

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cause that's just this

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or graphics cards?

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minimized game there

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now onto dGPU

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dGPU mode

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:05 PM

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flat arch or graphics cards?

Graphics cards (has NVIDIA GeForce RTX...)

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:05 PM

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flat arch cause that's just this

This one is your monitors

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:07 PM

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tacit trail Graphics cards (has NVIDIA GeForce RTX...)

That was both iGPU and dGPU listed there

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dGPU mode

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:10 PM

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flat arch dGPU mode

so far so good. still no external display connected?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:10 PM

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no external

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but it was laggy tho right

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just like in the beginning

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:11 PM

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the internal laptop display lags?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:11 PM

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yeah

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:11 PM

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flat arch dGPU mode

I actually have questsions here ngl

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:11 PM

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FPS drops like I described in the beginning

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:11 PM

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is this wil nothing running on the desktop

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or something is

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:12 PM

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only have game opened

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:12 PM

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Can you check again with the game closed?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:12 PM

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yea

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:12 PM

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I wanna see the VRAM usage when nothing is running

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:14 PM

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just task manager opened

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:14 PM

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It's on the high side. Gimme a moment.

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:14 PM

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sec

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tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:15 PM

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Click "Details" (first circle on left)
Right-click a column and click "Select columns"
Scroll this window until Dedicated GPU memory shows up
Tick that
Click OK
Now you have this column, sort this by that

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you may need to click twice

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normally I wouldn't investigate vram usage but it seems like it's quite high even for desktop idle, so I wonder what other programs that can use 3D are running

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The fact that video decode is running... know anything that might be playing videos is open?

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Besides Discord, also check:
chat programs
web browsers
game launchers

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:18 PM

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tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:18 PM

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MicaForEveryone

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Is this installed from another place?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:19 PM

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tacit trail The fact that video decode is running... know anything that might be playing vid...

It's installed by Rectify

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wrong message

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MicaForEveryone is installed by Rectify I installed

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:20 PM

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flat arch It's installed by Rectify

Why did you install this?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:20 PM

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brings nice features ._.

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:20 PM

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anyway, see if the lag persists if you uninstall MicaForEveryone

If it stays, or if you need to also uninstall Rectify, do that too.

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features will be worth jack if it bugs out

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if nothing improves, then it's probably not the cause, and you should put things back

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:21 PM

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what is the first thing in task manager there

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:22 PM

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flat arch what is the first thing in task manager there

Desktop Window Manager. (Windows' own desktop manager/compositor. A thing since Windows Vista, and handles the Windows desktop hardware acceleration and stuff. Sometimes, excess VRAM usage is attributed to this instead of the actual culprit.)

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:23 PM

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Can't I just end mica?

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and see

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:27 PM

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that works too

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actually, that might be better

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exit mica

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and see if the game still lags

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:28 PM

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yeah laggs

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:28 PM

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if that still lags, then exit all rectify stuff and check again

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:28 PM

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I mean why would it not if mica is running in hybrid mode too

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as well as rectify

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:32 PM

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Have to rule out third party software first

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so anyway

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when the game lags, do you have any onscreen overlays that can help with telling why?

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you can use MSI Afterburner and set up the monitoring so that it pops the required values

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or if you have GeForce Experience installed and logged in, try ALT-Z > Performance > change the overlay to advanced

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:35 PM

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which one is better, gonna have to install

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:36 PM

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MSI Afterburner can be configured to show even more stats than what GFE's overlay can.

I want to see these:
CPU temperature
CPU clock speed
CPU package power

GPU temperature
GPU clock speed
GPU power
All GPU limit reasons

Frame rate
Frame time (as a graph)

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:40 PM

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How do I use this thing

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just wanna overlay

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is "usage" clockspeed?

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"CPU usage"

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looks like it

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:44 PM

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flat arch is "usage" clockspeed?

you need both

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get both cpu usage and clock speed

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also forgot to tell you but also get gpu usage too

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:45 PM

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why is framerate greyed out

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 2:47 PM

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check the checkbox at the left

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 2:54 PM

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is afterburner doing something by default?

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the lagg goes away sometimes but if I minimize it and put it on again the lagg can go away or trigger the lag

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even at high performance it feels a tiny bit laggier than in hybrid mode yk

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high fps I mean

steel drum Feb 7, 2024, 3:02 PM

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Do you get input lag?

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 3:03 PM

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not sure, don't think

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 3:06 PM

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flat arch not sure, don't think

if you use GFE's overlay, Render Latency is one of the stats

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 3:06 PM

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I use afterburner

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but is that important rn

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 3:06 PM

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I wonder if it's just the laptop being hella quirky if optimus is faster

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though I'm not surprised

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Windows 11 CASO is really good

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(the current default for all supported hardware on Windows 11.)

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but

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the game uses OpenGL

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so probably not applicable here

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I think you should experiment more with the laptop. Perhaps you've found an edge case where since the game is so low load, that it probably was better off just running on normal mode

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 3:09 PM

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I have tried many many things, been on this for at least a week, almost two

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one edge case for sure is that when I plug in monitor, FPS are smooth

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on both displays

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so what changes there

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does it draw more power for displaying on both screens?

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you guys know more about stats than I do

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 3:11 PM

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flat arch does it draw more power for displaying on both screens?

the GPU does need to do more work to get two screens on

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 3:12 PM

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so what values should we look at then

steel drum Feb 7, 2024, 3:12 PM

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Temps, usage,FPS stability, latency

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Just curious I don't own laptop so I don't know much. But do you find this option in bios

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ASPM: PCIe Power Management [disable]

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 3:14 PM

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uhm idk rn wait

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here is on monitor, stable

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actually better reference

steel drum Feb 7, 2024, 3:26 PM

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Looks pretty good

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 3:27 PM

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memory speed is way higher if u compare them

tacit trail Feb 7, 2024, 3:28 PM

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are you guys thinking "game so low load, video card forgor to wake up"?

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sure feels like it and we're going to need to do something like...

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for this app specifically

steel drum Feb 7, 2024, 3:32 PM

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tacit trail

Yes that would also work

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 3:32 PM

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gonna try later today but I mean it's a phone game so might be ig

steel drum Feb 7, 2024, 3:36 PM

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tacit trail

@flat arch Usually prefer max performance isn't necessarily. But due to Nvidia-windows compatibility issue sometimes this feature helps

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 3:37 PM

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right, I'm gonna try it later today 👌🏼

flat arch Feb 7, 2024, 7:29 PM

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tacit trail

this seems to be working

tacit trail Feb 8, 2024, 5:09 AM

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https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5519?=&linkId=100000240085402

NVIDIA Support

#Legion 7i Pro FPS drops