Changing the OS

[digital lake]

Now I'm using Windows 10 on my laptop, it got a i5 7200U, a GTX 950M, 16gb ram and 1tb ssd.
And I really want to play games like fortnite or else but I usually have a cpu bottleneck.
So I wanted to know if it would lower my bottleneck to have an os with less processes
and also can and how can i install the os without losing my files

[pseudo violet]

A low powered dual core CPU from what's essentially 9 year old tech?

Forget about it. Fortnight is quite CPU heavy nowadays.

The laptop did have some pretty good mileage, but if I were you I'd start considering getting a new computer

But before that... have you checked what frame rates are you getting in game? (Use a single player mode, such as Lego Fortnite, to easily verify)

(That mode is free and persistent (saves), so it's easy to check with.)

[digital lake]

im at 30-45 fps

with drops at 0 fps when the cpu is maxed out

so i have freezes when its loading or else

[pseudo violet]

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

Can you check the stats of this in sensors-only mode when the game starts to drop frames?

[digital lake]

alright

[pseudo violet]

CPU too slow

It's already at 100% usage at 15W (which is normal for a ULV CPU)

[digital lake]

yes but i can lower it a bit with closing processes no ?

[pseudo violet]

Can't do much shit with a dual core CPU in 2024

Let alone something that is hamstrung by power and clock limits too

Even though you aren't thermally throttling

You're hitting power limits

[digital lake]

i already got an issue like that on val

[pseudo violet]

You ARE already at minimum settings right

[digital lake]

as i remember you told me that i was thermal throttling

i changed my thermal paste and all that stuff but same temps

[digital lake]

yes

720p

60 fps lock

performance mod

and all low

[pseudo violet]

Frankly I think you need a new computer at this point

[digital lake]

yes i know that but i dont really have money so im just doing what i can do to get more and more perfs

[pseudo violet]

Just as a sanity check, can you show the stats when the game isn't running?

[digital lake]

im at about 5% cpu on idle

with 5gb of ram used of 16

and like 60°C

[pseudo violet]

No background apps stealing CPU, then

All signs point to not enough CPU

[digital lake]

before some games updating i was getting about 100 frames on every games i was playing

i was at a stable 120 fps on fortnite

but now the cpu cant load the game with 120fps

[pseudo violet]

Did it happen after Fortnite updated to UE5?

[digital lake]

i was with the same issue on valorant but they fixed it somehow

[digital lake]

yeah i think so

[pseudo violet]

CPU requirements spiked

Welp

[digital lake]

but months ago i wasnt getting issues like this

[pseudo violet]

Long term service games tend to eventually increase in requirements

Usually tied to major updates

[digital lake]

yes but

uhm

minecraft

i was playing on 1.8.9 version which released on 2015

[pseudo violet]

Lemme guess... it's not exactly with the UE5 (since that's early last year), but with the very recent update that gave it Lego Fortnite among other things?

[digital lake]

yes

i got the same on val but i dont have the issue anymore

[pseudo violet]

With laptops, always check if it's actually running on the dGPU, since technically it's not Minecraft, but the Java runtime

[digital lake]

yes

and it was running on my apu

[pseudo violet]

Not enough CPU for current versions for Fortnite, then

[digital lake]

i was getting low fps like 40

[pseudo violet]

Always always check

[digital lake]

i changed it to the gpu

[pseudo violet]

So basically, Minecraft and Valorant should still be fine

The problem is Fortnite since it's constantly updated

[digital lake]

and now i get like 160 fps average but freezing when loading

it does the same when its capped to 60

[pseudo violet]

As both a platform and a UE5 technical showcase

On modern Windows frankly two cores at 2-3ghz is painful

If you start gaming

[digital lake]

it was fine when the computer came

but now it isnt working that good

[pseudo violet]

Your computer is really old

[digital lake]

yes i know that its 8 or 9 years

[pseudo violet]

7 generations ago, or 7 years ago. Games that ran fine but end up getting updated down the line will eventually stop caring about a dual core laptop CPU of that era

[digital lake]

i was thinking about buying a new pc but firstly i need the money and also talk about it with my parents

[pseudo violet]

Same for the mobile GPU

Are you still in high school?

[digital lake]

i think the 950 is still good for the games i play

wait

im not english actually so

wait a sec

year 9

in high school

right now i have 450€

i was thinking of getting an xbox but i will still need a pc for university and all that stuff

so i think im just gonna build a pc when i will be at 700-800€

[pseudo violet]

you should hold off on the xbox tbh

and if you are bringing said pc to the university, go straight for a gaming laptop

for the most part, pretty much every xbox game is also a pc game

[digital lake]

most of my friends are playing on pc

and most of the games i play are only on pc

but i was thinking about buying a really gaming pc

and using this laptop for school

so i would actually be able to play without any problem

and also work without any problem

[pseudo violet]

Why not fold the budget for your Xbox, desktop, and laptop together?

[digital lake]

i dont have a desktop pc

now im just on a laptop

and pc is much better

[pseudo violet]

Laptops are PCs too

[digital lake]

yeah but heat issues

also way more expensive

and harder to upgrade or repair

its gonna be easier to change parts of a desktop pc

and i mean

a 2 core surely can handle word

[pseudo violet]

the main problem being that you want a gaming capable PC and a laptop at the same time

[weak sonnet]

Well first of all fuck all the theories and test the fortnite game at low settings with performance mode. If you're happy with the whole experience then no need to worry about it

[pseudo violet]

...didn't they already say that?

also, this thing is stuttering

[weak sonnet]

Ah damn I just checked

[weak sonnet]

This is a different one

Single stick 16GB? DDR3?

Maybe RAM usage is more than 75% and getting too many hard page faults

@digital lake download this utility http://www.mediafire.com/file/ewpy1p0rr132thk/MSI_util_v3.zip/file

Run as admin and show the result

[digital lake]

uh

firstly i was on 4 gb and a 2 gb ddr4 sticks

i upgraded to 2x8 16gb 2400

because the motherboard doesnt support more

and i dont know why but on the task manager it says only 2133

i searched xmp and old that stuff in my bios but i dont have it

and sorry btw i was at school

[digital lake]

i want a gaming desktop pc so i can run games without having heat issues, saving money and also upgrade it when i can

but i also need a laptop to use it for school

i just think that im gonna buy a pc without an ssd, take my old ssd from 200gb to put it in this laptop, and put this 1tb ssd to the gaming pc so i can save more money

so i will reset this pc and put it on energy saving things

[weak sonnet]

Normal

Aight first of all, go to Nvidia control panel and restore 3D settings

Then download and run "autoruns64" as admin

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns

Save the result and send here

Look, these are just micro optimizations. That ain't gonna boost your fps to 50 or 100 lol

But at least it may or may not give your system stability cuz your whole system is old

[digital lake]

alright im gonna try

but tbh 50 or 40 fps is still playable

i just wanna get rid of these drops to 0

[weak sonnet]

Mate ngl nowadays fortnite kids are deadass sweating and try hard. 40-50 fps ain't good enough..

[digital lake]

im not playing that much of fortnite but this is the game where most of my friends are

im more playing fps type games

i was playing csgo

valorant

i get good frames on these games

the only issue is that it isnt stable

its freezing everytime

how do i use this

[weak sonnet]

Oof too many

On top menu bar > File > save

Send saved file here

[weak sonnet]

You sure it's freezing or maybe "rubberbanding"?

[digital lake]

what is rubberbanding

as i saw with afterburner

[weak sonnet]

It's a concept related to gaming over network

[digital lake]

its usually when my cpu goes 100% usage

and the gpu drops to 0%

[weak sonnet]

Are the CPU and gpu frequencies are correct?

[digital lake]

i dont know about that

i just know that my cpu cant handle the gpu correctly

the only game i run properly is css

[weak sonnet]

https://youtu.be/AQnF20Ez59M?si=0fqTOBT4JG4PY1Ia

0:30-0:35

[digital lake]

it came in 2004

[digital lake]

no

[weak sonnet]

I'll get on pc later and let you know

[digital lake]

it just freezes and comes back in 1-10 sec

and its really bad on competitive games

[weak sonnet]

Also did you try driver version 537.58?

Recent drivers are horseshit

For maxwell gpus like yours

[digital lake]

idk i just have the latest i think

[weak sonnet]

Nah

[digital lake]

wait let me see

[weak sonnet]

Mate try the older version

[digital lake]

uhh how am i doing that

[weak sonnet]

Nvcleaninstall to remove Telemetry & enable/disable bunch of options which you don't get in express installation. Also NVcleanstall will remember previous settings for a start. It will also download the latest driver for you. If you don't care, don't care then

[digital lake]

now i have the 546.65

and i can update to 551.23

[weak sonnet]

546 still got the issues afaik

For maxwell

[digital lake]

so i install nvcleaninstall

[weak sonnet]

Aight do you know how to use DDU?

[digital lake]

uh i think so

[weak sonnet]

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/?amp

Download this

[digital lake]

thanks

i remove with ddu and install with nvclean ?

[weak sonnet]

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/212702/

Download the driver

[weak sonnet]

Yeah install it using nvcleanstall

[digital lake]

do i have to install ddu ?

[weak sonnet]

Download and launch the DDU installer from the Wagnardsoft website
Extract DDU.
Boot Windows into Safe Mode
Launch DDU and select the NVIDIA driver from the drop-down menu
Click "Clean and restart"
Wait for DDU to remove all the drivers and restart your computer
Install old driver using nvcleanstall

[digital lake]

oh okay

[digital lake]

and like this ?

[weak sonnet]

Yeah

[digital lake]

alr

[weak sonnet]

First uninstall using ddu

[digital lake]

im back in 5 - 10 mins than

yes

[weak sonnet]

And when you install, try this

[weak sonnet]

Select the bottom option too (not shown in the Pic)

[digital lake]

okay

where do i have the installation tweaks

i have to click on next ?

[weak sonnet]

Also another option it didn't show about "MPO" it's really important. Tick "disable MPO"

[digital lake]

alr

im doing all that and comming back

cya

[weak sonnet]

Ok

[digital lake]

man

what am I selecting

what do I choose

[digital lake]

mann

answer

[weak sonnet]

Choose Physx

Next

[digital lake]

alr

it's installing

but It didn't ask me the tweaks you wanted me to select

oh okay I just got them

I put everything the same ?

I have things you don't have

I have enable dlss indicator, disable multiplane overlay, disable Ansel and apply nvenc session limit patch

do I also enable the one you removed with the pen ?

[weak sonnet]

Apply nvenc video encoding patch. Important

Disable MPO

Disable ansel

[digital lake]

alright

[weak sonnet]

Once done, build the package and then install it. Don't just directly install.

The built package will come in handy next time

Once done with nvcleanstall shenanigan, download and extract this

https://dl.benchmate.org/timerbench%2F1.5.exe

Use this tool to quick test FPS

And you'll see stutters in graph if there's any

[digital lake]

I'm using afterburner

I have 124 fps average on deathmatch

I don't really remember but I think I was at 90 before

and I'm gonna test in a game where there is more effects

actually it's loading quicker

and even if the CPU is maxed out it doesn't look like dropping the GPU usage

I still have the issue

it's more stable but I'm still bottlenecked by the cpu

I'm dropping at 50 fps from 120 when it's loading

I mean it fixed it a bit but still here

I'm gonna try on cs

it stutters more

[weak sonnet]

Yuh

[digital lake]

uh

not more

still*

yeah it fixed it on cs

so I think that it's only fixed on old games

[weak sonnet]

MPO did it

There's actually more we can go deeper

I'm talking about drivers, syscalls, interrupts etc

[digital lake]

well

if it's gonna be better I will do it cor sure

nah it's just worse on fortnite

but really worse

[weak sonnet]

Chek the RAM usage quickly

Is it over 70%?

[digital lake]

nah

48%

it's at 7.6/16

[weak sonnet]

Bruh I'm on my phone about to reach 100 tabs.

[digital lake]

what tabs

[weak sonnet]

My browser tabs

[digital lake]

omg

[weak sonnet]

On Android

https://www.resplendence.com/download/LatencyMon.exe

Download and run when you're playing game

[digital lake]

alr

man

the CPU is 100%

the graph is at the top

[weak sonnet]

Yeah around 3GHz

[digital lake]

yeah

2.98-3.05

and I closed everything

like really everything

[weak sonnet]

Ngl games like Fortnite, GTA 5 are heavily based on cpu

[digital lake]

yeah

I'm getting 40 fps on gta

but GTA is playable

Fortnite isn't

[weak sonnet]

For games always choose higher single core performance

[digital lake]

wdym

[weak sonnet]

For games single core performance matters more than having low freq but more cores

[digital lake]

yeah but I have 2 cores

[weak sonnet]

Also this game will have a few stutters until the shaders have finished compiling

[weak sonnet]

Doesn't matter how many cores. 3GHz is slow for fortnite duh

[digital lake]

yes but the frequency isn't an issue

rn I just need the CPU to handle the game

2 cores aren't enough to load all this

[weak sonnet]

Running game from ssd?

Back in my days I remember core 2 duo was fast enough. I blame developers for poor coding optimizations

[digital lake]

I was running perfectly at 120 fps back then

[weak sonnet]

Mhm

Aight do this

[digital lake]

just with the updates the game became more intensive

[weak sonnet]

Open Epic Games launcher go to Fortnite options & enable the Pre-download Streamed Assets (This will install like 30GB of files that should help in-game performance)

[digital lake]

alr

I'm just gonna do the thing you told me

I'm launching and running it

[weak sonnet]

Ssd or hdd?

Also if you're planning to use your laptop a year more then install Windows 10 enterprise LTSC that will add some 13-15 fps extra

[digital lake]

ssd

mx500 1tb from crucial

[digital lake]

firstly I wanted to download atlas os

or tiny10

because they lower CPU usage

but I don't know if it's gonna delete my files

what do I do with latency mon

[weak sonnet]

I'd recommend you test it with a virtual machine first. Though, i wouldn't really recommend it as your main OS. As much as I don't like all the extra things in win 10, you have no clue what future problems you may run into & you're also going to leave future updates out of the question

[weak sonnet]

Install and run

[digital lake]

I did it

and I don't really know why testing it with vms

[weak sonnet]

You'll see what drivers are causing the most issues

[digital lake]

alright

wait I'm giving you the screenshots

and I already have predownload the shaders

[weak sonnet]

Show me the first page too to compare easily

[weak sonnet]

And what do you get when you play games

Keep it running

Wdf is still high for idle tho

[digital lake]

i just stopped it before closing the game

this is while gaming

[weak sonnet]

Nah, if there's stuttering then it should show red color

Try another game

[digital lake]

ah man

i swear to god

it was unplayable

but it was showing green

[weak sonnet]

Btw do you use ethernet?

[digital lake]

yes

[weak sonnet]

Aight

[digital lake]

but my cable is broken

idk if it can give less perfs

[weak sonnet]

If it stutters then it's your game issue not driver issue. Meaning shader cache or something

[digital lake]

before launching i got an update

so i cant really tell if it changes the perfs

[weak sonnet]

Do ping test to 1.1.1.1

[digital lake]

but yeah maybe its just messed up

[weak sonnet]

In cmd type ping 1.1.1.1 -t

After 60 seconds press ctrl+ c to stop

And show me the bottom page I wanna see packet loss

[digital lake]

i did 46 sec

46 sent

46 received

0 loss

min : 5 ms

max : 7 ms

but sometimes it just stops

[weak sonnet]

Meh don't worry your cable is fine

Otherwise you would have seen packet loss and in ethernet page wrong link speed

[digital lake]

its because i just replugged it

i broke it by walking on it actually

and sometime it just moves and i dont have connection until i unplug and plug it back

and also

my ram is at 2400mhz

but on the task manager it says 2133mhz

[weak sonnet]

Maybe either motherboard or cpu limiting it

In fortnite latency markers can cause Fps drop. Switch it off.

[digital lake]

same with or without

[weak sonnet]

I'ma check your autoruns file

[digital lake]

but it freezes way more than before

maybe its the update idk

[digital lake]

alr

[weak sonnet]

When did you update

[digital lake]

just before launching to try if it still freezes

[weak sonnet]

I'ma tell you software to uninstall

[digital lake]

alr

[weak sonnet]

Unnecessary burden and context switching

Opera, java, mega, Google (switch to edge browser)

[digital lake]

opera is just my main browser

java is for minecraft

mega is for syncing photos on my phone

[weak sonnet]

Oh damn

[digital lake]

and there isnt a google app i think

ohh chrome ?

[weak sonnet]

tick only marked ones from the below ss

[digital lake]

wdym

i need to launch back ?

[weak sonnet]

As admin

[digital lake]

alr

[digital lake]

i tick them or untick ?

[weak sonnet]

They should be ticked.

[digital lake]

yeah they are

[weak sonnet]

And rest should be unticked

[digital lake]

how do i untick all ?

[weak sonnet]

One by one

[digital lake]

ah shit

alr

wait i unticked vanguard

i cant tick it back

[weak sonnet]

Leave the yellow highlighted entries alone tho

[digital lake]

it just desapeared

[weak sonnet]

Hm weird

It shouldn't

You using autoruns64.exe as admin right?

[digital lake]

autoruns.exe on admin

[weak sonnet]

64

[digital lake]

alr

i relaunched its there

[weak sonnet]

Have you installed anything like krisp audio driver?

[digital lake]

nope i dont think so

man

i dont see the nvidia ones

[weak sonnet]

yeah cuz it's there along with so many clutters

[weak sonnet]

wym

[digital lake]

they arent here

can i open the file i just sent you ?

[weak sonnet]

They supposed to be there

[weak sonnet]

Yeah but don't open as admin.

Close autoruns64 and run as normal user not admin

Then open it

[digital lake]

ah shit

alr

okay i just did

but cant i just do it on this file ?

so i see the same ?

[weak sonnet]

First of all what happened to those entries

Hold on close everything. Run autoruns64.exe as admin and check again

[digital lake]

those were before downloading the old drivers

maybe its because of that ?

[weak sonnet]

Lmaooo

That file is after nvcleanstall??

Then it's normal.

[digital lake]

no before

you asked me it before doing nvclean

now i dont have those

[weak sonnet]

Okay good

Nvcleanstall did it's job

[digital lake]

wait i'll just send you a new one

[weak sonnet]

No need

[digital lake]

alr

[weak sonnet]

Just forget about Nvidia

Disable other entries

Keep the nvidia entries ticked as you see

[digital lake]

i untick all and only tick what you told me to do ?

[weak sonnet]

Exactly

[digital lake]

i just dont have the nvidia ones

i cant tick or untick

they arent there

[weak sonnet]

maybe in schedule task

[digital lake]

nah they arent there

uh

i keep the yellow ones on ticked ?

as they arent here anymore

[weak sonnet]

yeah

dont touch em

don't even try to delete em unless you know what you doing. I've seen BSOD just cuz of deleting one of em

[digital lake]

i think its all good

[weak sonnet]

U done?

finally run this

https://www.malwarebytes.com/adwcleaner

delete everything it shows you after the scan

then reboot. Check your fortnite performance and tell me

[digital lake]

im exporting the file ?

[weak sonnet]

huh?

[digital lake]

wait lmao

im lost

[weak sonnet]

once you done with tick and untick everything close the software

[weak sonnet]

and start from here

[weak sonnet]

wait no

download this one

[digital lake]

oh okay

i clicked the other button

[weak sonnet]

ye

[digital lake]

its gonna remove the ticked ones ?

[weak sonnet]

in adwcleaner? yeah select all

[weak sonnet]

how many u got lol show me

meh pup not important. Delete em and reboot

[digital lake]

i also have preinstalled acer update

do i tick it ?

[weak sonnet]

yeah

[weak sonnet]

just select all bruh

do it quick. reboot. fire your game and tell me it's performance

[digital lake]

rn I'm on the spawn

it looks like it's better

I'll play 5 min and tell you

I don't know how to explain

it isn't freezing when it isn't loading anything

and when I go to combat it freezes

now it's not freezing like before

but I got a freeze when someone shot me

a big freeze

[weak sonnet]

I'm reading your texts while listening to Russian music
https://youtu.be/yJ67byj1Dbo?si=eieHCnJGB2SHVIGk

[weak sonnet]

I've seen this happening before in GTA back in my days

[digital lake]

nice musix

[weak sonnet]

If i'm correct

then let's change paging size

[digital lake]

how do I do that

[weak sonnet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/zwHyp2euCRM?si=WvPyrZQX8U6ChRFd

Follow this

Show me the final window I'll tell you what to set

[digital lake]

alr

and

it starts freezing only after playing a bit

si how much do I put ?

[weak sonnet]

custom

min 16mb
max 2927

and test again for 5mins

[digital lake]

but he's putting the same in the 2 cases

I put 16 on the upper and 2927 down?

and it says initial size

with maximum

[weak sonnet]

Different system

[weak sonnet]

yep

[digital lake]

alr

I'm rebooting

[weak sonnet]

paging is kinda complicated topic.

ok

[digital lake]

same thing

[weak sonnet]

well then nothing you can do

[digital lake]

nvm

at least it's running yk

[weak sonnet]

ppl been complaining the same thing everyewhere since 2 months

[digital lake]

I'll try with valorant to see if it's running better

[weak sonnet]

Has to do with new update

[weak sonnet]

aight lmk

[digital lake]

yeah I saw people complaining about it

there is people freezing with 4090s

wait

I think I got 40 fps more

or 50

[weak sonnet]

that's good

I'm working on my program

[weak sonnet]

what about other games

[digital lake]

is this basic ?

[digital lake]

i'll see

I just need to get the same map

well actually

I only got 50 fps more where the CPU isn't high

[weak sonnet]

hm you get issues only when it's at 100%

In theory what if you limit cpu usage for that particular process?

[digital lake]

I'll try

and mate

on csgo

I was at 160

now it's 290

200 average

[weak sonnet]

So you're saying my methods improved your fps to 81% no shit

that's good

[digital lake]

yeah but only on cs I think

I'm gonna try css

way older

I wonder how much I'll have

I was getting 250 on css

[weak sonnet]

Try to limit cpu usage to 90% for only fortnite process

and maybe you'll have some luck

[digital lake]

300

[weak sonnet]

bruh i just made your day lmao

[digital lake]

man

the frame time is a straight line

with 2 Ms of latency

[weak sonnet]

damn

i was expecting like 15-20 fps boost

you got more than 100 lol

aight look we gonna try something advanced

[digital lake]

but on cs my CPU is at 50%

[weak sonnet]

nah I'm talking about fortnite

[digital lake]

on valorant or Fortnite its at 100%

[weak sonnet]

valorant is a bitch

[digital lake]

actually I haven't tried creative but maybe I'll take more than 120 fps

[digital lake]

it was way better back then

[weak sonnet]

I think I got a way better tool for your cpu

[digital lake]

show me

I would do anything to get frames

[weak sonnet]

BES is a small tool that throttles the CPU usage of the process you “target”: for instance, you can limit the CPU usage of a process which would use CPU 100%, down to 50% (or any percentage you’d like). With this, you can use other programs comfortably while doing something CPU-intensive in the background. For more than 10 years, BES has also helped various gamers as a handy “anti-freeze” agent, though that was not the original purpose of BES. Well-known examples quick-fixed by BES include The Witcher 3 + dual-core (2015); Steel Panthers: World at War; Kingdom Come: Deliverance; and Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC + 4-core (2019).

[digital lake]

alr

[weak sonnet]

you know the Fortnite process name which hogs cpu

bes.exe "C:\your\target.exe" 100;80;120000

Start with 100% CPU usage (unrestricted)

After 120 seconds (2 minutes), apply an 80% CPU limit

[digital lake]

wait

nah this isn't working

still on 100%

[weak sonnet]

bruh

keep your game running in background

[digital lake]

alr

[weak sonnet]

pass: s

U gonna see the gui

select the process and set to 80%

tell me if it works

[digital lake]

what is the password

i need the password to export the file

[weak sonnet]

"s"

[digital lake]

how much do I put

[weak sonnet]

50-80

put 80 for now

does it limit?

[digital lake]

nope

nvm

I'm gonna go to sleep now

gn man

and thanks