robust coyote
so i have a rtx 2060 and a ryzen 5 3600 paired in my computer right now. its a pre built as well. i was wondering if this is a bottle neck or how i can check?
ive been getting really bad fps issues and stutters, and ive tried every internal windows thing you can do.
the pc is a PREBUILT and originally came with a 1660 super, but i replaced it with the 2060. will it run better with the 1660 super or at least eliminate the stuttering and fps issues??
motherboard is a320m/ac with 16 gb ddr4 ram
robust coyote
bump
worthy crypt
The 2060 is better outright. Don't downgrade back to the 1660 Super.
If you are getting stuttering, something else is going on.
Download this, run it in sensors-only mode, and post the entire thing here.
robust coyote
@worthy crypt im just getting low fps rn and idk why
my pc is randomly shutting off
it shut off 4 diff times in fortnite matches
worthy crypt
Can you take a photo of your computer's power supply?
robust coyote
Can you take a photo of your computer's power supply?
it just started happening too
like
few hours ago
robust coyote
oh damn
worthy crypt
And it's even split rail
On the already tiny ass 372W 12V rail
So you actually get 180W per rail
And 192
robust coyote
how do i find whats best for my compter and combatible
worthy crypt
The TBP of a 2060 is, you guessed it, 160W
On a low quality power supply that is already lying on the label, I'd bet it doesn't even make 180W on a given rail
robust coyote
what about the 1660 super? i know i need a new PSU but if I put the 1660 super in, will it work as a temporary fix?
or no
worthy crypt
Run the power stability test here and see if it shuts down the rig
robust coyote
alrighty
worthy crypt
what about the 1660 super? i know i need a new PSU but if I put the 1660 super i...
The 1660 Super is 125W, so it's quite a lot lighter. If the crashes stop when you put it back on, use it temporarily while you replace your PSU with something actually worthy
Tier B or higher, single rail, 550W+
robust coyote
how do I know if its compatible?
worthy crypt
It should have a 12V total wattage near or at it
worthy crypt
how do I know if its compatible?
Anything at the first three tiers are
Since you don't have an OEM (e.g. HP, Dell, Acer) prebuild, you can use any of these power supplies. ATX PSUs have a standardised pinout. (If in doubt, just avoid anything saying "SFF or SFX")
worthy crypt
SFF/SFX is for a specific tiny kind of PC. They will still work, but cables may be too short, and it will definitely look weird with the overhang if it mounts.
worthy crypt
i have a MATX
Use ATX PSUs for mATX
Still in doubt? Send the product page of the thing you wanna buy
robust coyote
am going to run the benchmark
worthy crypt
Ok
robust coyote
and
worthy crypt
If the power supply is bad your PC should turn off or shut down
robust coyote
my pc shutdown
worthy crypt
Bingo
robust coyote
before i even clicked start
literally just opened the benchmark
and it shutdown
didnt even run it
worthy crypt
Remove the 2060 and put the 1660S and see if you can get it to shutdown
worthy crypt
didnt even run it
Welp
robust coyote
thats crazy
worthy crypt
But if it didn't freeze or BSOD, yeah, thinking of power
robust coyote
i was literally running only discord + the benchmark
it didnt
it just shutdowns
nothing else
worthy crypt
Get rid of the POS PSU ASAP, but first change to the 1660S and see if you can force it to shutdown
If it doesn't, observe the GPU Rail Voltage and see how low they can go while the test is running
robust coyote
alright
worthy crypt
Under the GPU section, it is expandable
robust coyote
also
do you think this would also be effecting my fps and causing stutters? @worthy crypt
im assuming so
since you need the psu to run the whole pc
worthy crypt
do you think this would also be effecting my fps and causing stutters? <@1649354...
Well, you have to get rid of the shutdowns first before we can really troubleshoot that
robust coyote
true
also
im not very smart with this stuff so
did my psu just get worse overtime or how like? because ive never had this issue before and ive been runing this setup for maybe 3 months with issue
did it just finally give up or what
worthy crypt
did my psu just get worse overtime or how like? because ive never had this issue...
Well, these power supplies aren't really meant for running a modern gaming PC in the first place given how it is set up
Also based on a very old design if it doesn't even make 80% of the rated power on the 12V rail
Even group reg PSUs can do at least 90%+
And you shouldn't be buying THESE as group reg is old
DC-DC is what proper modern PSUs do, and these are basically 95-100% always
robust coyote
like i said, the pc originally came with the 1660 super, and i just slapped a 2060 in it, but i wasnt aware of how shit the psu was
xd
and i bought it like
2-3 years ago?
worthy crypt
Yeah, sounds about right for then to wear down
worthy crypt
how much its generating
Not without specialised tools to see the total DC wattage (entire system)
You can see how much the CPU and GPU are pulling straight from HWINFO64 (CPU Package Power and GPU Power)
robust coyote
while running the benchmark?
@worthy crypt
still hasnt shutdown yet?
it shutdown right when i launched it last time
worthy crypt
Hmm...
If it never shuts down, next, try shutting down the computer, then wait for another hour before starting it back on. Then immediately run the stress test.
robust coyote
so it is not psu?
worthy crypt
so it is not psu?
If a PSU needs to warm up, it's still the PSU. I used to have a rig that did the same.
robust coyote
true
like it never happens when i first start playing
it only happened after i was towards the end of a match
ill put the other gpu in tomorrow and see what everything is looking like
its very late
ill let the benchmark run too
i ran the cpu bench mark for maybe 10 minutes or a little more and pc shutdown @worthy crypt
lol
my pc was on for like
an hour
ran benchmark for cpu 10-15 minutes
shutdown
worthy crypt
Hmm, OK, we're getting somewhere...
See if the same thing happens with the 1660S installed
boreal cradle
Your "500W" PSU is actually a 372W
YIKES
worthy crypt
I have a good idea what's wrong already
PSU doesn't like it when the CPU gets loaded
boreal cradle
@robust coyote don't take any chances your system ain't compatible. Start with your PSU otherwise you'll end up damaging other components
worthy crypt
If nothing else that won't explode anything and last the warranty term
boreal cradle
Word
robust coyote
alright i am trying the other graphics card
hopefully it dont shutdown and i can use it as a temporary fix until the new power supply comes
robust coyote
still shutting down even with the 1660 super
i was watching twitch for maybe an hour
like
it seems like
it shutsdown every hour
from the boot up
robust coyote
so
i found out
its not my oc
pc
or my parts
its my windows
its not activated
and it turns off every hour
if its not activated
worthy crypt
if its not activated
Sorry, this behaviour isn't a thing since Windows Vista
It's something else.
robust coyote
Sorry, this behaviour isn't a thing since Windows Vista
pc has been running for 2+ hours without shutdown
it is
i fresh installed with usb
no issues
worthy crypt
it is
It's something else.
Have you checked the OCCT power test again? Windows idle isn't a useful check
(You can look up on what happens with unactivated Windows. You'll notice that your described behaviour is not what happens in 10/11 at all.)
robust coyote
(You can look up on what happens with unactivated Windows. You'll notice that yo...
it wasnt windows 10 or 11
ma guy i literally googled it
every person on that os without activation had that issue
ive been playing 3+ hours no shutdown
worthy crypt
ive been playing 3+ hours no shutdown
What game?
worthy crypt
ma guy i literally googled it
I will not believe you if I have personally seen behaviour otherwise.
Do not believe everything posted on the Internet.
Current versions of Windows will watermark the desktop and block personalization
In Windows 8.1, Windows will periodically full screen telling you to activate Windows.
