hi, so my 3060 ti is underperforming and i feel like ive tried and looked everywhere but i cannot seem to figure out why i have this issue can somebody pls help me.
#gpu underperforming.
bleak zephyr
bleak zephyr
whenever anyone has time, could they pls help me
iron ginkgo
In where?
bleak zephyr
oh hi, sorry what do u mean by in where?
i just wanna figure out why my gpu is underperforming
iron ginkgo
In what game?
bleak zephyr
oh okay well for example sons of the forest
iron ginkgo
CPU?
bleak zephyr
i wanna show u an example can i send a quick yt link with a time stamp?
bleak zephyr
CPU?
my 3060 ti is combined with my intle i5-11600kf, that shouldnt be an issue right?
cuz i dont think im cpu bound
iron ginkgo
Not a problem. You're talking about a new game, though. Some weirdness may be to be expected.
RAM config?
bleak zephyr
Not a problem. You're talking about a new game, though. Some weirdness may be to...
but thats the thing, can i send a yt link with a time stamp rlly quick i wanna show u an example
idk if im allowed to send links in here
iron ginkgo
You could try that, yeah. Or you can simply press ALT-R and tell me the numbers it's spitting while at a problem spot
That key combo should bring up the GeForce Experience performance oveerlay
bleak zephyr
You could try that, yeah. Or you can simply press ALT-R and tell me the numbers ...
at that time stamp hes using 1080 ultra settings + dlss on quality, he keeps hovering around 90 fps but if i do the same i hover around maybe 65
iron ginkgo
OK. At the part you want to check, bring up the performanxe overlay.
bleak zephyr
and i even tried the same location on the map so it cant be caused by gpu intensive areas
bleak zephyr
OK. At the part you want to check, bring up the performanxe overlay.
alright
iron ginkgo
What's the FPS and GPU usage?
bleak zephyr
im confused perhaps u meant alt-z? cuz alt-r isnt giving me anything
iron ginkgo
Press ALT-Z to bring up the main overlay. If it does not react, is GeForce Experience installed and logged in?
bleak zephyr
no no i can bring up the main overlay and then press performance if thats what you are talking abt
iron ginkgo
That works too. Make sure the performance overlay is in advanced mode.
The numbers I want:
FPS
CPU usage
GPU usage
GPU temperature
GPU clock
bleak zephyr
in game im guessing?
iron ginkgo
Yes
bleak zephyr
gotchu 1 sec
iron ginkgo
The numbers are meaningless otherwise.
bleak zephyr
quick question where do i switch it to advanced mode
nvm i got it
the fps during this screenshot was hovering between 69 and 71
iron ginkgo
What's your monitor's display refresh rate, and is it VRR? (G-Sync, FreeSync, VESA Adaptive Sync)
58% total usage is pretty high btw considering a hyperthreaded hexacore
Something is preventing the game from running faster than your GPU actually allows. Which means either vsync, frame limits, or CPU
New games are pretty harsh on the CPU.
bleak zephyr
its a 1080p 60hz monitor but could be set to 75hz (dont know what thats abt since its a 60hz but alr) i believe its g-sync or freesync but im not sure i could try to find the monitor and check its specs again
iron ginkgo
Game might be not running any faster than around 70Hz then if vsync is on. (Check your monitor specs.)
bleak zephyr
Something is preventing the game from running faster than your GPU actually allo...
i normally use v-sync on 60 since i use a 60hz monitor therefor a 60 fps cap would cause famr tearing, but for testing including that screenshot i turned v-sync of, same goes for any type of fps cap
bleak zephyr
Game might be not running any faster than around 70Hz then if vsync is on. (Chec...
will do
well, before i checked the specs i went and checked in the monitor menu and freesync is turned on idk if that helps u
bleak zephyr
i normally use v-sync on 60 since i use a 60hz monitor therefor a 60 fps cap wou...
turns out it is actually a 75hz monitor mah bad
south crow
Turn off freesync
south crow
Could be limiting your FPS
Test without and go from there
Usually freesync doesn't auto lock the FPS
south crow
Ok, wait for mymhilda, he'll help you
bleak zephyr
alright
iron ginkgo
Turn off freesync in monitor, gsync in nvidia control panel, and check game settings if vsync or frame limits were on
Also
It's unlikely you're acrually freesyncing
Cause HDMI 1.4
Your monitor is likely behaving like a normal 1080p60 monitor
bleak zephyr
im in the nvidia control panel rn, where can i find gsync?
south crow
If you set freesync off then you won't have it
bleak zephyr
i did turn off freesync on my monitor
south crow
I mean you won't have the option in nvcp
Check max frame rate lock and vsync in nvidia control panel
bleak zephyr
i dont use the manage 3d settings so i dont have a max frame rate turned on there
bleak zephyr
same thing in game, v-sync disabled and fps cap unlimited
south crow
Also adaptive target, something like that if there's that option
When you look at the sky, what's your fps?
south crow
Ok so it isn't locked
bleak zephyr
yeh its not
bleak zephyr
south crow
Try fullscreen instead of windowrd
bleak zephyr
i did, if i use exclusive full screen i get -10 fps
bleak zephyr
miles morales is one of them, same thing i look at a bunch of videos with people using the same gpu but getting way more fps
bleak zephyr
https://youtu.be/ueWouAEo25A?t=307
could be the game but if u check the time stamp in this yt link, im confused as to why hes using 1080p ultra settings + dlss on quality and staying in the 90fps
south crow
Could vary from system to system, same for glitches and other stuff
But answer the above questions
south crow
You have a lot of games installed that you play?
bleak zephyr
yeh but all of them on installed on my hhd, this game specifically is installed on my ssd since they said it will run better
other then this game, no other games are installed on my ssd
south crow
Ok
bleak zephyr
my ssd has abt 850 out of 1tb of storage left so idk think that could be the problem
south crow
Can you head to localappdata and go to nvidia then dxcache and tell me how many gigabytes does dxcache take
bleak zephyr
sure one sec
south crow
And what about your ram, is it the same speed as the one on the yt video?
bleak zephyr
yes it is i checked yesterday and got the same result
i dont rlly know what to do here
south crow
Ok
You could try setting your cache folder to a bigger size in nvidia control panel as I have no idea how big cache is at default
Set shader cache size to 1 gb
And test the game, if it is the same you can either keep it or set it back to default, however you prefer
bleak zephyr
sure, im in the nvcp rn but idk where to change that
bleak zephyr
sure let me switch to the manage 3d settings
south crow
Also can you go to device manager and go view resources by connection and expand interrupt request (irq) then find you GPU and screenshot
It'll be at the bottom I believe
bleak zephyr
just tested the game, no difference yet, ill go check device manager now
cant seem to find the irq
bleak zephyr
mah bad i clicked devices by connection
south crow
No worrie
south crow
It's fine
Honestly I can only suggest reying turning off core isolation in windows security, if you have virtualization enabled
And trying turning off tpm in BIOS
Also if none make any difference reset them back to the previous state they were on
bleak zephyr
ur convincing me that i know nothing of pc's anymore hahaha yeh sorry i dont rlly know aht those things are or where to find them
south crow
You can type core isolation in windows search, it should pop up
bleak zephyr
south crow
It's already off
bleak zephyr
yup
bleak zephyr
alright let turn of my pc and destroy my delete button
south crow
If you don't notice any improvements turn tpm back ON
bleak zephyr
whhats tpm?
cuz idk where to find it and idk if you use the msi bios but idk where im gonna find that
south crow
It's an module that is one of the requirements for windows 11 and some games with anti cheats
Was known to cause issues with performance but mostly on amd systems
Worth giving a try even tho you have intel
south crow
Wait
bleak zephyr
sure np
south crow
I must find how it goes in msi bios
bleak zephyr
alright take ur time
bleak zephyr
haha i’m still on this screen i any settings button or advanced, anywhere i could click on to see one of those?
south crow
I'll try and find a video as I'm not sur emyself ahahhahaha
bleak zephyr
haha totally fine
bleak zephyr
oh, i’m blind
south crow
Hahahhaha
south crow
Now click settings
bleak zephyr
done
south crow
Security
bleak zephyr
what do u mean, something wrong with my ram?
south crow
Oh damn didn't even see that
bleak zephyr
oh alright
south crow
Don't touch tpm, most likely the ram xmp
bleak zephyr
iron ginkgo
enjoy the free upgrade!
bleak zephyr
how abt now
iron ginkgo
yeah, now save and restart. (doublec heck the speed in bios after restarting)
iron ginkgo
yeah, press Esc and it should start asking what you wanna do.
or click the x at the top right corner
south crow
It's still at 2133, no?
bleak zephyr
alr safed it, now just restart and go back to the bios?
iron ginkgo
It's still at 2133, no?
if the computer hasn't restarted it won't take
settings need to be saved
south crow
Ah my bad
iron ginkgo
alr safed it, now just restart and go back to the bios?
yeah, gotta see if it did something
bleak zephyr
alright
south crow
You can also revert shader cache size to driver default if you wish
bleak zephyr
oh
my
lord
u guys are LITERALLY
life savers dude
running in the exact same areas rn but with a 20 fps boost
south crow
Excellent
bleak zephyr
perfectly matching the video
south crow
Well if mymhilda hasn't been watching we'd miss the xmp ahahahhahaha
bleak zephyr
haha true but ur the reason we went into the bios
south crow
Glad you got it sorted out!
bleak zephyr
otherwise i wouldve never sent the escreenshot showing the xmp
thank u guys so much seriously
south crow
😀
Also if you get more CPU usage then in videos, nvidia container will use 20 percent as it is a new issue with latest drivers. Just in case you notice that
bleak zephyr
oh yeh sure ill keep an eye on that thanks
i did turn off freesync on all 3 of my monitors, any reason i should turn it back on?
south crow
If you plan on using it then you can turn it back on, but you'll have to stay below your refresh rate for it to work
I'm not sure if it works on hdmi 1.4 on nvidia card
It'll sync refresh rate with your fps and get rid of screen tearing
bleak zephyr
never even used it before i always stuck to using v-sync or normale frame rate cap
idek how to use it its never in any games graphic or display settings but i always had it on
south crow
Freesync is that but causes lower input delay than vsync
Turn it on inside monitor osd and check if you have gsync option in nvidia control panel
bleak zephyr
sounds perfect cuz i have indeed noticed significant input delay with v-sync
gotchu
bleak zephyr
well, funny thing, i use a converter cable from display port to hdmi
idk if that helps
south crow
I'm not sure if it'll work as I neve rused converters
You could try. Reason? No dp port on monitor?
bleak zephyr
yeh well its okay ill look into it later im just happy im hitting 90 to a 100 fps in sotf now
bleak zephyr
You could try. Reason? No dp port on monitor?
yup
south crow
Ok 👍
bleak zephyr
thanmks again man
iron ginkgo
freesync doesn't work over hdmi 1.4
if nvidia gpu
if the monitor does not have a displayport connection, it basically is a normal monitor
bleak zephyr
alright, i dont rlly plan on using freesync, any reason i should replace my monitor?
do i need like a better one?
iron ginkgo
a VRR monitor with displayport and at least a 120hz refresh rate can help with both motion clarity at high fps, smoothness at low fps, and eliminates tearing thoroughout
note: the freesync range should be something akin to 48-120 at a minimum. a good rule of thumb that the display isn't terrible at VRR is that it:
- has g-sync compatible certification OR
- has freesync premium certification OR
- the display's maximum refresh rate when VRR is turned on is at least 2.5x of the minimum (e.g. 48Hz-120Hz, where 120Hz is 2.5x 48Hz) (if the monitor's minimum is 60, the upper bound should be 150.) (this ensures that the monitor can do LFC in all situations)
south crow
Also keep in mind that most VA panels flicker brightness with freesync