mint wont update

[peak thistle]

was trying to fix my roblox, realized my mint system wasn’t up to date and then I try and update it and get this

i have no backups to revert to

[soft steppe]

good news is this is nothing to worry about. Your system is essentially telling you "before doing this update, make a backup (snapshot) so if something breaks you can undo it"

do you have an app called timeshift on your PC?

[peak thistle]

yes

[soft steppe]

Actually, you can probably follow this guide to help you set up a backup using timeshift. Once you have a timeshift backup completed, that error will go away and you'll be able to update properly
https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/set-up-backup-snapshot-on-linux-mint/

hope this helps you out, if you got any issues lemme know

[peak thistle]

i pressed fix and it did the same thing

[soft steppe]

just to clarify is this during the timeshift snapshot or while trying to upgrade?

[peak thistle]

upgrading

[soft steppe]

it appears as though you installed non official stuff, maybe through a PPA? that's what's stopping you from doing a system upgrade

[peak thistle]

i am not sure

how can i fix this

[soft steppe]

One method I'm seeing online is to use the software sources program, under maintenance you could select and downgrade foreign packages, that may be your solution?

as long as you got that timeshift snapshot (backup) you should be good if anything goes wrong (I think)

[peak thistle]

Do i tick all of them

[soft steppe]

all of them that show up in the list from the pic you posted above

[soft steppe]

I'll be honest, I don't really use Mint so I'm a little lost on how to resolve held broken packages. Someone may be able to assist you to resolve/clear this up shortly

[peak thistle]

alr

[soft steppe]

I'll drop a <@&417769118557536258> ping (I'm sorry fellow helpers for the ping)
damin here is currently unable to upgrade their system due to held broken packages. skimming the convo in this thread may be useful to understand the steps taken (they've made a timeshift snapshot before attempting to downgrade the packages for the system upgrade)

[remote quail]

it looks like you're using some ppas for things?

[peak thistle]

?

wdym by that

[soft steppe]

a PPA is a third party or unofficial release of software that you've gone out of your way to add (this is a pretty big simplification)

can you remember ever running a command of something like apt-add-repository or something like that?

[peak thistle]

i think so

my memory is bad

[soft steppe]

in your home directory, you should have a (hidden) file called .bash_history, if you could open that up in a text editor and find any lines that include that fore mentioned command it may assist us in helping you get this resolved.

[soft steppe]

if anyone else is reading along, I believe knowing what PPA's they added could help move forward in resolving this issue? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I've spent a little too much time in the world of immutable to deal with dependency hell

[peak thistle]

if its hidden how can i find it

[soft steppe]

in your file manager, you should have an option in the top right dropdown menu to show hidden files

it's a setting in your file explorer

[peak thistle]

alr i opened it

do u want me to send multiple photos

[soft steppe]

just find the lines with apt-add-repository to give us an idea what you added. Not sure if pics are needed

[peak thistle]

sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ bionic main'

first one

sudo apt-add-repository https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/

sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ xenial main'

[soft steppe]

yup that'll do it. Those are the PPA's you added. Hoping that's most/all the info needed to help get this resolved though someone else will have to help from here

[summer maple]

@peak thistle bad news. i'd reinstall and i've been an avid linux user for 3 years now. you'd have to manually search for and find every stray package to fix this.

leave it for a day or two to see if someone has experience with this specific set of issues

then reinstall if no one can solve it

[novel oyster]

I'd try removing the kisak mesa ppa first since that's the repo of which packages are causing apt errors, the repo has instructions for the removal and even recommends doing so before upgrades: https://launchpad.net/~kisak/+archive/ubuntu/kisak-mesa

[peak thistle]

alright

so do you think ill have to reinstall

sorry for late response been really caught up with school

in school rn

this weekend ill try and solve the issue with yalls help

[novel oyster]

if there's no more issues after removing the kisak mesa ppa then I dont think you should need to reinstall

[peak thistle]

about done with school

[static chasm]

it's probably one of grapejuice's repositories (grapejuice is a wine mod to play roblox on linux btw)

idk tbh

but i had a similar problem like this and it had to do with this

[soft steppe]

As of recent, Roblox is no longer playable on Linux due to anticheat

[static chasm]

yeah i forgot about this one

people are craving for roblox linux support

[peak thistle]

@novel oyster

OK

sorry for being gone so long

eventful times

but id like to finish this finally

ill try that links guide

sorry for the @s but @static chasm @remote quail

[static chasm]

im gonna sleep so don't expect me to be here with you

[peak thistle]

that’s ok

[peak thistle]

yo

not tryna rush but are y’all still willing to help

[signal notch]

respect for the patience. this looks cursed as fuck

it might be faster to backup your /home, a list of installed packages and do a fresh setup than to waste time fixing it

[peak thistle]

@signal notch

should i just like

wipe my system and get a different os

im tired asf of mint

if so can i dm u about switching bc im not really sure how to do it