latest-updates

[safe trail]

cry more i want to play as indonesia and australia

[compact meadow]

does a languge mod exist?

[crimson tartan]

sure

[crimson tartan]

what language

[compact meadow]

albanian

or spanish

maybe italian ig

[lyric coyote]

Check steam lol

[crimson tartan]

spanish is already in the game

[compact meadow]

really?

[crimson tartan]

yes 🙂

[hollow coral]

Ask and you shall reciebe

[compact meadow]

i dont know it really well tho but i know albanian better

[crimson tartan]

unfortunately, there is no albanian mods 😔

[compact meadow]

ig

[compact meadow]

bruh this game so hard

[tough wagon]

explain this

[hollow coral]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-gif-2642067979719313440

[coral drift]

Eh, well, I have my faith for Indonesia 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩

[hollow coral]

i aswell have faith in Australia🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺

[safe trail]

https://klipy.com/gifs/down-under-party--k01KRE634D8BYNHXZ1QF4EYPBQ7

https://klipy.com/gifs/awesome-job-1--k01KRE648ACTFJXYC6HXMHCHQ76

[hollow coral]

where are my actual Australians

[coral drift]

Still 551k Rupiah in my place
Man, I still missed the time when I pre-ordered No Step Back for 109k Rupiah

[safe trail]

no soory german but i like Australia

[pseudo wing]

Guangdong Clique

[fresh cedar]

You guys are so tiring. 😂

[crimson tartan]

it's the price of the whole bundle

[autumn breach]

wym 'you guys'

[hollow coral]

have fun not having fun ig

[north wave]

the new hoi4 dlc could be good if they lock in on it

[hollow coral]

Its a finished product essentially

[fresh cedar]

The petulant children always crying about anything. If you genuinely are so miserable and don’t like the game/paradox. Why not just play something else?

[coral drift]

Istg if it reaches 150k i would be confused as hell

[fresh cedar]

Like I consider McDonalds overpriced slop, and guess what. I never eat it.

[autumn breach]

if a company makes a bad product i can say its bad

[fresh cedar]

It’s not even released yet 💀

[fresh cedar]

Type of guy to say a restaurant is trash without ever eating there

[hollow coral]

this system can definitely be used for america

[coral drift]

Definitely

[autumn breach]

ok if it releases and gets above 50% positive reviews ill be proven wrong

[hollow coral]

potentially other democratic countries too i suppose

[fresh cedar]

I don’t care. If you are expecting it to be bad and get review bombed, why even be here anymore? Just move on to a new game you enjoy?? 😂

[autumn breach]

but paradox hasnt released a dlc since gotterdammerung or whatever thats had positive

[fresh cedar]

Malaria confirmed

[coral drift]

An event in August 1945 when it can results in Sukarno's death 60% of the time

(yes, he caught malaria twice between 1936-1945)

[autumn breach]

no other grand strategy ww2 games

that are real time

[fresh cedar]

Okay, so if you dislike it that much. Instead of crying in here or wherever. Literally just move on.

[autumn breach]

im allowed to cry here

[hollow coral]

when did paradox start forcing us to buy there stuff

[fresh cedar]

People are here to discuss the new dlc not listen to people cry about it

[autumn breach]

if you dont like me crying here how about u leave

[autumn breach]

crying about the dlc is discussing it

[ashen mango]

he is kinda speaking facts

[fresh cedar]

Notice how your initial comment was disliked by multiple people

You are insufferable and no one wants to hear your opinion lil bro 😂

[autumn breach]

so what?

[autumn breach]

you're the one engaging with me

[fresh cedar]

You’re right, blocked

[autumn breach]

paradox paid actor

[fresh cedar]

Wonder if that’ll be an aspect

[coral drift]

Hehe
I mean, their loss if the DLC is unaffordable for average Indonesian players.... But I still wanted to support them

[hot vigil]

May I ask why next month’s DLC adds content for Thailand/Siam but not for French Indochina (Vietnam) and British Malaya ?🤔

[autumn breach]

they always have pretty much, atleast in the days of ck2 and euiv

[fresh cedar]

Feel like they’re gonna do a colonies dlc or something eventually

What is that image from?

[coral drift]

I mean, since Dutch East Indies is "doing nothing" in historical until May 1940, maybe you can have more say in influencing the next phases (both 1940-1942, 1942-1945, and after 1945)

[crimson tartan]

steam

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3796290/Theater_Pack__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Thunder_at_our_Gates/

Steam

Theater Pack - Hearts of Iron IV: Thunder at our Gates

Step into the heart of command in Thunder at Our Gates, a Theater Pack for Hearts of Iron IV. Expand on the art of organizing a campaign with new features such as military headquarters and navy captains, as well as unique new content for nations caught between rival empires; Australia, Siam and Indonesia.

Hearts of Iron IV: Thunder at Our Gat…

Price

$48.77

Release Date

Jun 11, 2026

[hollow coral]

i love how Australias tree isnt railroaded

[whole arch]

Yipi, new dev diary! The election mechanics looks really neat ngl, I'm excited to see how that works

[hollow coral]

actually feels like you can do alt his stuff without going through the dedicated tree for alt his

[fresh cedar]

Yeah looks like you have a lot of mobility

[fresh cedar]

That’s why I liked the Czech communist and democratic trees

[crimson tartan]

i'm not sure why there are german soldier marching south from paris on the australian dlc page

[fresh cedar]

Yeah I wonder how they’ll address early game for indies

[hollow coral]

its for the hq stuff

[crimson tartan]

oooh really

[fresh cedar]

Sick image, though what is the soldier in the middle?

[crimson tartan]

hq officer i guess

🙂

[fresh cedar]

Oh right aren’t they on map now?

I wonder why happens if you nuke them 😂

[lyric coyote]

Thats a tough one. I feel like a Commonwealth rework is more important if that ever comes out

[crimson tartan]

that's why he's with pistol

[low plover]

Can't wait for Siam though! 😮

[fresh cedar]

I was thinking commonwealth aswell tbh

[coral drift]

Like what i have said about handling the Ethical Policies in EIR, historical would lock them early because the early phase is "doing nothing", while the Indonesian paths has actions from the start so it would be unlocked later

[lyric coyote]

Commonwealth shared focus tree or something like that to represent the Combined Chiefs of Staff

[fresh cedar]

Can’t wait to see Commisars

[fresh cedar]

Would be amazing

[fresh cedar]

Doing nothing isn’t very engaging for players though. Probably will be similar to the Phillipines of building up and fixing economy

[north wave]

i hope they make it to where its not another like british raj

[fresh cedar]

Hate how the Fascist Raj paths just involve the Allie’s sending 90% of their units to crush you while ignoring WW2

[lyric coyote]

Raj obedience tree is one of the best paths they did in the last dlc's

[fresh cedar]

Dominion?

[lyric coyote]

the one on the far right, its called the obedience path in country path selection

[coral drift]

I can assure you if the devs have read the correct books, they can get it right

[hollow coral]

would love that in a british dlc honestly

[fresh cedar]

I forget though is the obedience path where you just become the dominion? Like the British loyalist path. Was added after GOE was released

[hollow coral]

british raj is probably the best in that dlc

its just the eic that makes it look bad

[fresh cedar]

Agreed, though I really like the Hashemite Iraq path.

[hollow coral]

im convinced they made all those puppets just for iraq

and they probably did make all those puppets just for iraq

[fresh cedar]

Just to have Lebanon not get annexed 😂

They totally did

[lyric coyote]

@fresh cedar

This path

[fresh cedar]

Specifically for the Hashemite path lol

[fresh cedar]

Yeah it becomes the Dominion of India, that is a really fun path. Wasn’t even there on GOE release lol

[hollow coral]

and kuwait also just exists

i think one focus to gain theme in the hashemite path

[coral drift]

Nitpicks

• "Manado Military Academy": we already had Corps Opleiding voor Reserve Officieren at Bandung
• "KNIL Engineer Forces": use "Zeni Corps"
• "Elevate the Elite Infantry": "Korps Speciale Troepen"
• "Request Control of the Dutch Navy East Indies Squadron"
• "Open Weapon Factories in Java": "Expand the Artilerie Inrichtingen te Bandoeng"

And that's it for now

[fresh cedar]

Basically can take Jordan, Syria, Palestine, Saudi, and Yemen for free. Then have to war with allies to form Arabia

But as Hashemite can core Spain which is nice

[hollow coral]

could probably work well in a malaya focus tree aswell

[fresh cedar]

Can’t wait for people to review bomb bc no Malaya 😭

[safe trail]

no new zeeland

it more th reason

the

[hollow coral]

nonetheless i think it was a good choice to limit the scope this time

[safe trail]

and i will like the dlc(ihope) but i wanted aso new zeeland rework

[fresh cedar]

Tbh think they should’ve had Indochina and Malaya, not Australia and just had Australia in a dominion pack

But NZL will most likely be in that

[hollow coral]

they can always be rework in probably a british dlc im going to be honest

[lyric coyote]

Is Malaya really needed? Its a 0 factories gameplay

[hollow coral]

its not 'needed'

[safe trail]

yeah rework for south africa canada new zeeland australia and new tree for egypt and ireland(1937 full indipended)

[lyric coyote]

needs to have OP spirits to be playable

[hollow coral]

but it would be cool to have them actually playable

[autumn breach]

ull get a lot from trade

[fresh cedar]

People are gonna for sure be mad about New Zealand and Malaysia but oh well. I’m happy to play the 3 we’re getting

Lowkey most excited for Siam just bc probably has the easiest expansion route

[hollow coral]

its because they go the funny fascist route historically

[fresh cedar]

And just super weak neighbors

Burma, Indochina, Malaysia is basically free real estate

[hollow coral]

its probably just demanding land

and being japans sidekick

[coral drift]

Well since there is no implications for new contents for New Zealand or Malaya, ppl would not be as mad as for PfoT

[fresh cedar]

Imagine in order to demand it, has to become an allied puppet. Otherwise has to invade

[fresh cedar]

People review bombed TOA bc wasn’t entirety of South America

[hollow coral]

they pretty much only demanded land from french indochina

then they were the italy to japan

[safe trail]

and to rename the land thailand

[fresh cedar]

It was nice that it was 5 countries though. Wish this one was. If Malaysia and New Zealand got the Uruguay/Paraguay treatment I’d be fine with that

[safe trail]

nah new zeeland is to important

[fresh cedar]

Idk, Paraguay size tree for it would be sufficient imo

[proud basin]

what is the concesus on the €20 price point

[hollow coral]

idk i preordered the pass

[safe trail]

new zeeland was important in both world wars so nah they nedd belgium size

[fresh cedar]

Steep for 3 countries, but idk I pre ordered the pass so everything cost me like $40 in total

[hollow coral]

i will always order the pass because im gonna buy the dlcs anyways

[coral drift]

Also Overvalwagen Braat is there

Lovely

[fresh cedar]

Except even Belgium had an army 3x bigger than NZL

[proud basin]

problem is they arent gonna be countries that you play more than a few times

[hollow coral]

you can say that for most countries

[safe trail]

ok but new zeeland still neds a normal tree not a minor focus tree (luxenburg albania slovakia yes)

[fresh cedar]

Depending on the formables I would. Atleast Siam just bc I don’t really fw naval invasions

[fresh cedar]

Paraguay has a pretty big tree

[hollow coral]

thats not a fair critiscism because everyone plays differently

[safe trail]

it is ok yes this is why Liberia albania luxenburg nepal bhutan tibet could get this trtment

[proud basin]

Ye but how many people enjoy playing deep pacific island/jungle nations, Uk and USA rework must surely be next

[safe trail]

treatment

[fresh cedar]

This isn’t a small tree

[hollow coral]

im not sure anyones playing hawaii

[hollow coral]

budget and resources

[safe trail]

It is if you chose one rote you have 10 foucus lefft

political not

[proud basin]

Knowing Pdx will give them the ability to annex and core the entire world without declaring for 100pp

[fresh cedar]

Idk every Chinese country and Japan got focus trees. I think that DLC had enough

[hollow coral]

cannot realistically ask for every country to get a tree for every dlc

[safe trail]

in future we get another expansion pass with usa gb maybe france

[fresh cedar]

That’s why I’m saying I wish NZL and Malaysia got similar trees to secondaries in TOA

[coral drift]

Already doing the calculating for Indonesian prices
It's 63% of US price, so it's around 12.6 US$

220k Rupiah for preorder, and i said above i did not want to spend more than 150k since NSB preorder in late 2021 was 109k Rupiahs

[hollow coral]

nah they need to milk them each individual dlc

[proud basin]

Usa, britain, ireland and maybe some other minor like canada or new zealand defo not france

[safe trail]

never we get a dlc with 2 or 3 big players like China with japan toggeter

[safe trail]

France need a rework the tree sucks ass

[fresh cedar]

I lowkey should buy it with a VPN from there

[coral drift]

And where i should buy it from?

[proud basin]

Ye but 3 majors in a dlc will either be terrible or $1000

[safe trail]

yeah maybe a dominion pack and a single france dlc

[swift cloak]

damn we gettin new DLC again?

[fresh cedar]

I’d just recommend saving money each paycheck for it then get it

[coral drift]

Again, 100% increase in 4 years is crazy

[hollow coral]

id rather prefer they spread them out individually with associated countries with them in a dlc

[coral drift]

I wish i have a job
(yes, Indonesia's job situation is terrible)

[fresh cedar]

Meanwhile every company in the US has made everything like 5x more expensive in that time.

[autumn breach]

paradox would sell u focus trees for the same country more than once

[fresh cedar]

Lowkey gotta focus on finding work unless you’re under 18

[hollow coral]

e.g UK - South Africa, New Zealand
France - Indochina, morocco

[safe trail]

so Gb with dominions USA with Middel america LIberia France with lux indochina#

[fresh cedar]

I stopped gaming as much when I was looking for jobs

[proud basin]

could do france+usa and then uk, ireland, new zealand, canada and south africa but unlikely

[autumn breach]

hungary, austrailia, czechoslovakia, japan, china, probably others

[fresh cedar]

Would be nice tbh

[keen totem]

this is a decent sized tree

[fresh cedar]

I’d honestly want a sly rework

[fresh cedar]

That’s what I’m saying. Imagine NZL and Malaysia got that

$20 for 3 trees is a bit steep. Though I like there’s new features

[keen totem]

my guess would be US, UK, Canada and Ireland in an expansion

[proud basin]

Honestly give me an irish tree for 40 bucks

[swift cloak]

that sucks, ig theyre gettin desperate or smth

[coral drift]

Already applied on 20-ish places since graduation last year

My major is government-oriented, and yet the change of government means change of focus. So now the job market on my sector is dry

[fresh cedar]

Division designer rework and regimental support though

I need to hear about it

[safe trail]

I want france rework and irland Egypt and luxenburg+

[keen totem]

i like how there's gonna be new features at least along with the trees

[autumn breach]

nope theyre just greedy

[fresh cedar]

That’s a good step but I probably applied to 250 within 6 months to get a job here

[proud basin]

Ireland albania and luxembourg pack €60

[fresh cedar]

I had to change careers to find work tbh.

[proud basin]

Would make the most sense

[safe trail]

for these 3 i would pay 12 euros

yes

[fresh cedar]

I have a BA in history, my job is in insurance/healthcare now

[swift cloak]

ngl, i really thought they would stop making more dlc for hoi4 but ig i was wrong

[coral drift]

The previous president is infrastructure-oriented, and my major is regional development

The current president since 2024 is heavily focusing on free meals program, and suddenly we have too much regional developers and too few nutrient supervisors

[keen totem]

that's why i think that'll be the next line up

[coral drift]

Mhm....

[autumn breach]

they're making too much money to stop releasing dlcs, especially when people keep buying them

[fresh cedar]

I started in history, market crashed, changed to HR, it was outsourced, so I changed to insurance.

[coral drift]

Tell that to the increasingly-minuscule Indonesian fandom

[proud basin]

I'd say they'd do uk, fra and usa before they do the next game

[keen totem]

some dominions already got or are getting reworks (australia in ToaG, the raj in GoE), so it feels a bit implausible they'll do a dominion themed dlc

[safe trail]

yes i hope

please

[fresh cedar]

Unless they just wanna focus on Canada, South Africa, NZL and UK

[stable tusk]

"Lang is Right"
Honestly an interesting focus name, I wonder what the effect will be

[keen totem]

i mean maybe? doesnt seem all too probable to me

[safe trail]

FRance please Allez les Bleus

[coral drift]

Man... Wonder if I can make it through as a soldier.

The current government is also focusing on recruiting soldiers too.

[swift cloak]

[hollow coral]

big fella

[autumn breach]

see what i mean? these countrys had content from man the guns but players are willing to spend money on rereleasing countries

[proud basin]

what about lang is left?

[keen totem]

hoi4 is paradox's cash cow

they wont stop until it stops being profitable

[fresh cedar]

If your goal is money to game, then being a soldier wouldn’t allow that. if you can I’d look into insurance companies or customer service. That way you get your foot in the door and can move into a different role you prefer

[safe trail]

yes

[autumn breach]

mhm and they are milking it

[safe trail]

me

Allez les Bleus

[proud basin]

well I probably will buy whatever has ireland in it idk about the rest, its only because they are the main players for the allies and in comparison axis and comintern are fully fleshed

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/intergalactic-intergalactic-quality-star-wars-luke-skywalker-green-milk-gif-9285806083318067463

[coral drift]

They're downsizing in Indonesia since 2025

[fresh cedar]

Ireland is the main player?

[proud basin]

ye we carried

[autumn breach]

ireland didnt do anything in ww2 tho

[fresh cedar]

Would’ve fooled me, I constantly talk to them at work 😭

[safe trail]

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-the-office-2--k01KRE9FB8CZ0J4BGPWDHGBERDM

F the sequels

[fresh cedar]

Innovated IED’s I guess

[autumn breach]

actually that shouldnt matter ignore me

[safe trail]

Ireland is cool

reason enough

[proud basin]

Already Know there will be an achievement for conquring usa as ireland

[fresh cedar]

Irish formable includes all celts and New York 😂

[autumn breach]

paradox doesnt care how relevant a country is, as long as they can sell it to people

[safe trail]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[safe trail]

HAHHAHAH

[stable tusk]

Ireland: The only Dominion to not get involved
(Well they stopped being a Dominion in 1937 but yk...)

[proud basin]

irish formable somehow cores roman borders

[stable tusk]

Boston*

[fresh cedar]

GAUL CONFIRMED

[safe trail]

the irish rebublican army

[fresh cedar]

Many also in New York

[safe trail]

needs a mechanik

[stable tusk]

New York is Italian, Boston is Irish

[fresh cedar]

The Northeast USA is full of them. I should know, I have Irish ancestry

[keen totem]

just cause they didnt do anything historically doesnt mean they shouldnt get anything at all, the game after all is sort of a "what if?", i dont like the arguement of "they didnt join the war dont give them content"

[fresh cedar]

No, New York is also Irish

[safe trail]

https://klipy.com/gifs/eire-irish--k01KRE9KV2GX4QNCCSMC94SVS2H

[proud basin]

pretty sure ireland is irish

[safe trail]

IRA needs content

[autumn breach]

read what i said after that pls

[safe trail]

GB had big problems

[fresh cedar]

I’m someone with Irish ancestry from right by NY lol. They literally have huge Irish parades and festivals

[keen totem]

yeah i see it now

[fresh cedar]

A lot of Polish too

[keen totem]

my fault

[keen totem]

poland mentioned 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱

[proud basin]

was actually banned in 1936 and cracked down on by british and ireland, if they cant do something with that idk what they are doing

[safe trail]

terror until the 80s

[crimson tartan]

hope with taog they will finally fix problem with fictional country called "new zealand"
i know it's pretty popular meme but please...

[fresh cedar]

Yeah bro I’m half 😂

[keen totem]

GB isnt too horrible, but the tree itself is a bit boring, and has like only 70 day focuses

[autumn breach]

yeah paradox stopped caring about hearts of iron being a ww2 simulation when they started making loads of money from the weird alt hist fantasy paths

[safe trail]

yeah they need to rebalance

[stable tusk]

Ig when I think of Irish Americans I think of Boston, New Jersey and NYC are Italians

[fresh cedar]

Imagine IRA, Italian mafia, and Carribean pirates can form a faction

[proud basin]

If I can't make michael costello the leader the games gone

[safe trail]

hahahaha

[safe trail]

OMG yes HAHAHHAAH

https://klipy.com/gifs/mafia-boss-1--k01KRE9T8Z50977EE8945BPBC0H

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-port-pirates-of-the-caribbean-jack-sparrow-gif-23294851

I so want a carribean pirate route

[keen totem]

also the treaty ports until 1938

[safe trail]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hello-weston--k01KRE9VNJEHT2A9FFN7NYTWTXW

[fresh cedar]

And for the Bahamas to become EITC

[proud basin]

anglo-irish trade war

[keen totem]

yes

[fresh cedar]

Didn’t realize potatos and wool was worth fighting over

[keen totem]

ireland also was a dominion iirc

irish free state

[safe trail]

Ireland has great dlc and meme potential

[proud basin]

fella does not know about kerry gold butter

[safe trail]

ireland needs a dlc

[keen totem]

the agreement in 1938 saw the trade war end and the treaty ports handed over

could do something with that asw

as well as the obvious ira paths and whatnot

[fresh cedar]

I want it but how would it be fun 😭

[proud basin]

ye lets make it known how much we want an irish dlc

[fresh cedar]

Would exist solely to act as a German staging ground to invade UK

[keen totem]

id imagine that maybe ireland would need limited war mechanics for north ireland maybe

[safe trail]

Latvia estonia Ethopia are aso fun

[keen totem]

given they're doing limited wars for siam

[safe trail]

Mexico is fun

[proud basin]

limerick soviets, pro german, ira nationalists, pro allies, neutrality and at least one schitzso celts expansionist path

[fresh cedar]

They also aren’t islands

[proud basin]

Not hard to make paths for

[safe trail]

yes but no risk no fun

[fresh cedar]

Moreso like they just expand into NIR, then that’s kinda it. Maybe invade UK and help release Wales/Scotland

What would they do beyond that

[safe trail]

yes for example

[safe trail]

Celtic revival alliance with germany

[fresh cedar]

Like they’d core the British isles?

[safe trail]

ireland Monarchist path Hohenzollern(yes is based on true events)

[safe trail]

yes

[proud basin]

eucharistic bonds with the papacy, could end up with a secret path if italy go down papacy

[safe trail]

Reverse uno for the british)

ireland Monarchist path Hohenzollern(yes is based on true events)
They wanted to elect a german monarch if the get german supplies 1916

[fresh cedar]

What would New Zealand/Malaysia end goals be?

[fresh cedar]

Cursed 😂

[safe trail]

mhhhh United with austlia for new zeeland

[fresh cedar]

So Australasia/Polynesian New Zealand

[safe trail]

yes

[fresh cedar]

Would be nice if New Zealand recruited War Baby

[proud basin]

Tbf what are most minors goals beyond just fascist expansion, communist expansion, elect a king expansion and stay democratic and do nothing

[fresh cedar]

They generally have decent formables

[safe trail]

democratic new zeeland and australia can united with each other

[north canopy]

chakerathe ChakRole icon, Community Team — 5:05 PM
Generals! @Hearts of Iron News

Our homeland faces great peril and its up to you to hold this line in the sand; Australia, Siam and Indonesia stand ready to brace for the Thunder at our Gates.

Landfall is expected June 11th - Are you ready?
https://pdxint.at/3P8wGd8
Image

thank me later

[fresh cedar]

Like Benelux, Ostland, Byzantine Empire, Arabia, Scandinavia, etc

[thick edge]

Wdym

[fresh cedar]

Bro we’ve been talking about this for hours 😂

[autumn breach]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-explorer-gif-24879124

[stable tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/what-verstappen-i60PW8HNerhMmaBq6k

[north canopy]

look at the channel name and then look at what I said bro

[stable tusk]

(I wanted to use the other gif but... no modern politics)

[north canopy]

it's relevant

[pseudo wing]

cant use modern politicians in here, even in meme form

[proud basin]

you could probably pull out some wacky formables of uk, usa, the british empire irish edition (fun fact majority of the british army at its peak was irish) celtic lands it europe and such

[north canopy]

you serious?

crazy

[stable tusk]

Chak swooped in like the Dark Knight

[pseudo wing]

its the second rule of the server that you have to read before even entering here, yes I am serious sir

[proud basin]

feel free to spread the fact that WE all want an irish dlc

[thick edge]

We have already been talking about it since it came out…

[fresh cedar]

How far back does it go. Can I do George Bush Sr?

[pseudo wing]

nothing from after the period of the game

[green scaffold]

so the devs really hate Australia

this is the worst thing ever

[north canopy]

I've read the rules sir, the gif seriously didn't seem like something that'd break it

aye aye sir

[fresh cedar]

Content until 1960 😏

Warsaw pact in game, formed 1955. So which president would that be

Eisenhower ig

[pseudo wing]

most stuff pre WW2 is fine (granted there are some topics that are obviously not ok but you know that) but anyone who held office after 1950 is a no essentially

[fresh cedar]

Soviet Premiers included? 😔

Dang

[fresh cedar]

It’s joking about his ineptitude ig

Pretty solid military tree. Seems like most will just give buffs and they didn’t pad it out

[thick edge]

Malaria?

Hm…

[fresh cedar]

Adaptability and Non-Combat supplies/attrition probably

[peak flame]

Maybe, just maybe Australia can get rid of those maluses outside of just the Expeditionary Leaders 😉

[autumn breach]

proably something like -5% jungle attrition or smth

[robust grail]

New Features
• Army Headquarters
• Ship Captains
wait, when did these feature mentioned?

[fresh cedar]

So like is regimental support tied to Army HQ’s or the Division designer rework?

Bc that means either support companies getting reworked alongside division designer.

Or they now attach to HQ’s

[robust grail]

do we have more information?

[peak flame]

Wait and see when we do the dev diary on that, don't want to steal the wind from our designers 🙂

[fresh cedar]

Oh no 😭

[autumn breach]

regiments are just like a column of ur division currently so its probably just a modifier u can add for that line of ur division

[fresh cedar]

I’m sorta anxious about those changes. Either it’ll be amazing or completely throw off the game

[cosmic stag]

hello yalls

im hyped

[robust grail]

I mean do Army Headquarters got mentioned before?

[fresh cedar]

They’ve been mentioned. Though we know very little. I think though that your general for your army will kinds be its own division that moves around and buffs stem from that

Now it seems like rather than support companies being in divisions they may also branch off from the HQ. Though IDK

Just speculation

Hopefully doesn’t dilute buffs or become Micro intensive

[swift cloak]

its prolly amazing but i really dont know if players can keep up with the more complexity of this game

[fresh cedar]

That’s a concern for sure. I’m worried about balance and application

Also, like will nukes now wipe out generals? If encircled will a general despawn?

[lucid rain]

League of Nations mentioned

[fresh cedar]

If generals truly are on map and can be taken or killed. I could see MP involving a lot of that.

Also imagine spy missions may now also capture generals or release them. Idk

[swift cloak]

prolly not a good idea

[thick edge]

Starvation by lack of division supply would be interesting

But I feel like some edgy players could do some stuff with that

[robust grail]

Mount and blade but WWII ahh

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah that totally won’t happen.

[swift cloak]

we already have that

[autumn breach]

grinding a general for the entire game just for him to be killed on the first day of barb cuz of rng sounds like great game design

[fresh cedar]

Hope they talk about those changes soon and not on like June 2nd after they’ve talked about every tree

HQ/Division Designer/Regimental support changes can potentially make or break the game

Would rather discourse about it sooner than later

[thick edge]

Shame

[fresh cedar]

Don’t want June to roll around and paradox be like “Sorry too late to rework”

Hoping regimental support is an extra layer of support for HQ’s and not a replacement for division support companies

[swift cloak]

bud they better not

[thick edge]

It’s historical atleast

[fresh cedar]

I’m not trying to fear monger. Though in recent DLC they haven’t necessarily had the best communication with these things. Hoping this time is different so the community isn’t blindsided by potentially huge changes

[fresh cedar]

Historical, just hoping playable

[swift cloak]

true but with how fast u can destroy an encirclement in hoi4, adding starvation seems a bit of a stretched

[thick edge]

Google AI so take it with a grain of salt

[thick edge]

Hopefully yeah

[lucid rain]

tell the devs to add some content for the Fernlanders

[swift cloak]

bud manpower aint cheap in hoi4 😭

[thick edge]

Do u see how much manpower Japan has when they take China

[swift cloak]

idk, i quite forgor it now

[thick edge]

A lot

Atleast

[swift cloak]

well its china but what about other countries tho?

[fresh cedar]

Bad example lol. Japan is pretty well populated and China is a manpower farm

[thick edge]

I just said Japan since the Google ai also said Japan

And most players kill China anyways

[fresh cedar]

Manpower can be pretty rough in Western Europe

[north wave]

i hope they keep emu empire

[dry pond]

Why are they making a new Australia dlc? They already released together for victory

[autumn breach]

cuz people will buy it again

and paradox likes money

even if it is a slap in the face to those of us who bought together for victory

[green scaffold]

Australia doesn't really have a focus tree now lol

[dry pond]

What happened to TfV

[green scaffold]

whatever they have is basically a more fancy looking default tree

tfv doesn't count as a dlc, its free

part of the base game

[dry pond]

That’s a surprise to my bank account when I bought it

[autumn breach]

they made it free and integrated it into the base game, people who bought it got nothing back though

[dry pond]

lol

If they’re at the point they’re making dlc for dlc they should just make hoi5

[autumn breach]

well when paradox players stop paying for the dlcs then they will

but paradox players will buy anything it seems

[fresh cedar]

I’m good with most countries getting updated trees before HOI5

Besides Arheo and other main staff moved projects in the last year or two. So something is definitely in the works

[thick edge]

The camera man for the dlc trailer needs a raise

He went back in time for the video!

[distant whale]

Australian Patriotism intensifying

[keen totem]

yeah its a bit rough

[keen totem]

i agree

[drifting star]

Wasn’t Malaysia supposed to be in this dlc as well ?

Or am I crazy

Anyways can’t wait to see Indonesia

[keen totem]

no it was never announced to be apart of the dlc

[drifting star]

Mb

[lucid rain]

what's this from ?

[stable tusk]

I still wonder how the Dutch exile path will work

[keen totem]

hope they dont mess it up

[coral drift]

Camp Columbia, Tiger Operations, Kota NICA and other stuffs

(those three are available online publicly through Historia.id and Tirto.id websites)

[fresh cedar]

No

Bruh I already people gonna review bomb for that

[drifting star]

I hope that we get a monarchist East Indies path, doesn’t Indonesia like Malaysia have like a bunch of different local sultans ?

[thick edge]

People review bomb way too much

[drifting star]

I would get it if the game didn’t work at all

[fresh cedar]

100%

Wild people aren’t focusing on these more.

[robust grail]

I swear prx are dumping too many feature on hoi4 now, I won't be surprise that they are using hoi4 as a testing ground

[keen totem]

given how they reacted over slovakia not being in PfoT no malaysia and new zealand sounds like something they're def gon review bomb over

[drifting star]

The aura farming for the commander is insane

[keen totem]

the free features especially are what catch my eye

[fresh cedar]

Imagine once they show other countries commanders.

[drifting star]

We need one with Norway, you know the one with the pipe

[coral drift]

Definitely, but there is only one (well, technically four but it's from one dynasty) who aimed to be pan-Indies. The rest are inward-oriented or at maximum just wanted to unify the island they reside in

[small vessel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/noe-6--k01KRES1EJQ2WAQ0BDY15MPTZ9Q

[coral drift]

Different case with the former implicitly suggested that there would be a Slovak focus tree, while the latter has no such thing about Malaya and New Zealand since the start

I mean, that's the reason my username here is "Malaya for TaoG" instead of "Slovakia for PfoT"

Oh boy 2 AM

[keen totem]

fair point 😂

[drifting star]

Indonesia is such an interesting country

[keen totem]

but given how much ive seen it just be thrown around and requested that malaya and NZ be added, seems like something people will still complain about

[keen totem]

im very interested to see what indonesia will have in store

[coral drift]

Agree. 12 paths potential, expected the devs to pick 7

[keen totem]

im pretty hyped for this dlc overall, all the countries geniunely seem very interesting

[drifting star]

Yup they look like they have seriously reworked how they make the trees

I wonder how the focus clusters will work

[coral drift]

Well, Arheo himself shot down the demands when TaoG's first announcement was not even 24 hours old

[keen totem]

didnt know

eh, not a big deal to me personally

[coral drift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1nqqvwu/just_so_be_clear_for_malaya_burma_indochina_and/

[keen totem]

it'd be nice but it's not the end of the world

[coral drift]

Hence why I also did not make it a big deal too.

Slovakia on the other hand, Arheo did not shot it down until a week before PfoT's release

[keen totem]

at least they're standing firm on it here in this case

and given what we're seeing so far from the dev diaries im pretty happy with what we're going to get

looks really nice

[coral drift]

The fact that they debunked the rumors for TaoG before 24 hours and not did the same about Slovakia makes me believe that Slovakia would get a tree

[keen totem]

most people expected a slovakia tree

at least here, malaya or new zealand are not expected whatsoever

still does seem like something people would review bomb over, but meh

[coral drift]

Mhm, I rest my case

[keen totem]

im quite a fan of the east indies flag here

[glossy inlet]

I always figured they’d bring indochina in when France does eventually get another dlc

[glossy inlet]

Yeah even paradox understood they did a majorfuckup with Slovakia

[coral drift]

Not that accurate (we're not defacing the flag at all) but for game's purpose it fits

[keen totem]

aware its probably not accurate, but it looks cool at least

[glossy inlet]

I just really hope the don’t screw some of the politics with these countries cause there’s always some little screwup they do

[keen totem]

yeah that seems probable

[coral drift]

Already written my thoughts here

[keen totem]

saw it posted on the forums

[keen totem]

i hope the election system they're trying for australia is utilized to some extent in future reworks

say.. a US rework?

[glossy inlet]

The Czechs have almost two hundred more focus’ than America

All the of the South American countries have bigger trees

[glossy inlet]

So yes probably the us

[coral drift]

I myself wanted a "Decolonizing the world" Rooseveltian path, but we'll get there when we get there

[glossy inlet]

Maybe

I hope they’re way more faithful with the fascist path than whatever hodgepodge it is now

The flavor events for America I feel would be very cool too

[keen totem]

roosevelts wild ride

[keen totem]

confederacy revival as the fascist path is sorta dumb

[glossy inlet]

It’s very dumb. The neo confederates didn’t vibe with that and the silver legion the confederacy and civil war in general was really stupid

[glossy inlet]

RT56 did the best they could when they added the option of the cult of Washington allowing you to go regular fascist instead of confederacy but it still needs a complete and I mean complete revision pretty much down to the first focus

[fresh cedar]

I just want them to give late game German units camo

[keen totem]

yes absolutely

[languid imp]

when the second emu war focus for aussies ??

[glossy inlet]

They said no emu stuff unfortunately

[keen totem]

absolutely tragic

[glossy inlet]

They said they wanted to be more plausible this time around

[keen totem]

fairly reasonable, all jokes aside

[glossy inlet]

GoE really kicked their ass when it came to alt stuff

[keen totem]

only tree i really like from GoE is Iran's

[glossy inlet]

I actually like Afghanistans lotta flavor there indias is nice too just way too bloated. Iraq was disappointing should’ve had way more

[coral drift]

Definitely. India has so much potential but the March release really botched it. At least the May updates managed to make the DLC at least okay.

[cosmic stag]

i wonder what the new div designer rework is gonna work/look like

[surreal escarp]

Would be nice if they gave us more space for support companies

[green scaffold]

iran has the worst tree in goe

by far

[brittle venture]

i love iran

[cosmic stag]

i hope the next dlc expansion adds new units and templates

[lucid rain]

I see a new flag here

better than the Dutch double

[stable tusk]

I hope when DEI declares independence then West Papua stays Dutch for that historical accuracy

[hollow coral]

THANK GOD

[drifting star]

No monarchist 💔

[hollow coral]

thank you paradox

[drifting star]

We need a kingdom of Australia

[hollow coral]

We are already a kingdom🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺

and honestly new zealand and south africa dont need a kingdom path either

[drifting star]

I hope there is a secret emu leader

[hollow coral]

canada potentially can maybe some alt his stuff if uk becomes communist

[drifting star]

Irrendentalist Australia

Australian empire

Or a native Australian path

[hollow coral]

irredentism doesnt really exist here

and an aboriginal path is frankly absurd

[lament quail]

How is it not plausible to have round two of a previously lost war?

[drifting star]

It would be fun

[hollow coral]

would prefer more plausible alt his

[lament quail]

Makes more sense in NZ tbh

[drifting star]

What would be more plausible

[hollow coral]

but an aboriginal leader can work for the communist path

[drifting star]

Australia world conquest

[green scaffold]

so you hate fun

[drifting star]

Australia Hungary

New formable

[green scaffold]

there is no possible interesting alt history for Australia

[hollow coral]

Yes

how can you tell?

[green scaffold]

no but like

[lament quail]

japan protectorate

[hollow coral]

🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺

[green scaffold]

what would you offer

for alt history

[drifting star]

Ok Dutch East Indies has cool possible paths

Like going full Islam pill

Or Japan

[hollow coral]

for that specific instance of an aboriginal path its just not plausible

aboriginal leader for communist path very possible

[drifting star]

Wasn’t israel supposed to be in Australia

Like one of the proposed places

I have a great idea that won’t be controversial

[hollow coral]

probably will be controversial

[drifting star]

The Kimberly plan

That’s kind of already there with the immigration decisions

What paths would you like to see ?

[hollow coral]

i mean the fascist path can have multiple parties or leaders

[lament quail]

Brits be like "in which desert are we sticking them?"

[hollow coral]

Of course the Centre party and new guard paramilitary under eric campbell

dissolved in 1935 but is revived ingame

[drifting star]

I just hope they are all well balenced and fun. I have found some games where I just build equipment and sell fun so maybe this nation could excel at that

[hollow coral]

other parties like the Australia first movement and League of National Security can be forces too

but likely it would be sticking with britain or aligning with germany

most likely annexing new zealand

id imagine the devs made the end goal an Australasia formable

[drifting star]

There’s already a screenshot with that

[cosmic axle]

Uganda:

[drifting star]

Damn that’s crazy

Didn’t they say no cuz too many black people 💀💀

[lucid rain]

It's also because it's dry savanna

[coral drift]

That depends if the Indonesians managed to spread their influence beyond Java and Sumatra or not. In 1936 i would accept if the Indonesians only held those two, with other islands are either ruled by their respective releaseables or the remnants of the Indies government.

[coral drift]

CC: @drifting star
Waiter, waiter, more paths for the Indies (and its releaseables)

/jk of course

[lucid rain]

speaking of New Zealand, they should get the Paraguay treatment

[hollow coral]

its should

but it isnt

they made the scope of the dlc clear from the start

[coral drift]

Still holding hopes that they would get some polish, but nothing major like Manchukuo's unannounced polish for NCNS

[coral drift]

This

[lucid rain]

that's reasonable

[coral drift]

Maybe they would get some focus here and there, but again, nothing extensive.

In a perfect world we should have get ANZAC rework in place of PfoT and a proper SEA DLC in place of TaoG. But the cat's out of the bag for 8 months already and i can only hope the devs would do their utmost for TaoG

[lucid rain]

indeed

[mild lynx]

guys, any idea of how the officers 3d models are gonna be implemented?

this image has too much aura

[stark quiver]

@pseudo citrus

Do the shaders work?

[dim linden]

Black oceans zzz

[stark quiver]

theyre peak bro

[crimson tartan]

you can just you know

turn off your screen

everything wil be black

[tribal stag]

ive found one map mod that fixes the map rn

[jovial flower]

Lowkey happy how many naval changes are

Not that I use navy but fixing and balancing it feels good because you see devs actually cooking something

[coral drift]

Mhm
My latest game as Germany on April saw the German navy able to block the Atlantic without any repercussions from the Royal Navy

[thick edge]

Wehraboos crying tears of joy rn

[coral drift]

Lol
But really
I managed to secure Gibraltar, make the Royal Navy in the Med my plaything, stomped the Soviets and conquering Africa before quickly capping UK and US before 1943 is out

Regular Ironman

[thick edge]

Vanilla AI is just ass honestly

[coral drift]

Only after Musketeer

Beforehand it's way more challenging

I played Japan in March and same results, but I stomped the Soviets first, the UK after, and US. Each on separate wars

[dim linden]

Counterpoint I’m so bad at the game that it doesn’t matter for me if the AI sucks, since I somehow suck harder

[edgy schooner]

lol

i suck so bad that i lost against the allies USING CHEATS

[coral drift]

How many hours of gameplay?

[fresh cedar]

Man was hoping the new beta would have the flavor for CZE

Like renamed formables and HRE 😔

[keen totem]

hopefully soon

[keen totem]

maybe just some portraits done

like mengjiang in NCNS

[vale plover]

Why do people call this update "woke" and "EU-Funded" for including stuff about the real australian immigration debate that happened around the time

like "Australia must populate or perish" was something said by an actual politician during the time

it was a real debate in australian history bruh

[mortal pike]

ugh 20$ for 3 focus trees xDDDDDD

[wide ether]

gg

[weary sorrel]

cuz immigration bad is popular these days.

[glossy inlet]

I’ve seen more people call it unhistorical for the time than woke lol

[vale plover]

The debate happened during ww2 tho so its not ???

[glossy inlet]

I mean the immigration part

[glossy inlet]

They stated you could only do it if commie but the dude just straight up didn’t care and still called it revisionist

[vale plover]

the only criticism i would have is that the strait battalion and northern territory reconnaissance unit are singled out
there where other broader units that could have been represented

[glossy inlet]

Sure but they can only do so much honestly

Maybe they could’ve been decision that could be neat

[vale plover]

yeah

again most of these where only ever battalion size but obviously australia didn't exactly have a large standing army for much of the war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papuan_Infantry_Battalion

some units like these would have been interesting

maybe combine them into 1 focus called "new guinea force" that allows you to raise battalions which would give you like 2000 manpower for 20 PP and command power

[glossy inlet]

Honestly Papua is probably gonna have like 2 focus’ related to it in the tree. I wouldn’t be surprised if Indonesia had more

[vale plover]

yeah

i wonder if australia will get a formable

like Australasia

[glossy inlet]

Most likely as I’m pretty sure this will be the flagship focus tree like Japan or India

[vale plover]

well australia as a minor could use a formable much more

obviously due to manpower

[glossy inlet]

Kinda bummed no New Zealand….maybe in the uk dlc they’ll get something

[vale plover]

or its a surprise

like

ahh iceland got

tho its unlikely

since slovakia also got snubbed in peace for our time

[glossy inlet]

Yeah we lucked out with Iceland heavy

[vale plover]

real shame BTW

[glossy inlet]

They did say they’ll be doing something to make it right as even they knew what they did with Slovakia was a bit of a major screwup

[vale plover]

i feel like some of the releasables which where common during a game should have gotten a focus tree
Slovakia
Croatia
The Confederate states during the american civil war

yk

[vale plover]

oh definitely

[glossy inlet]

Yugoslavia in general needs a focus pack stat

[vale plover]

its wierd cause yugoslavia RN is a STRONG focus tree but a rather boring one

also no balkan federation with tito

and no greater yugoslavia with bulgaria is a CRIME

[dapper ridge]

when will they add a modern map update?

[vale plover]

(the reunite the kingdoms method doesn't COUNT)

[glossy inlet]

The politics and just entire way they’re represented is wrong in game

No chetniks no real partisan and no national salvation government

[thick edge]

It’s a ww2 game

[glossy inlet]

And they could do what they did with Afghanistan, Japan and Iraq and change it to where the prime minister is considered the leader instead of the monarch

[dapper ridge]

i know but will they ever add a modren map or maps for other times of history

[glossy inlet]

It’s a ww2 game

[dapper ridge]

ik

[thick edge]

It’s a ww2 game

[dapper ridge]

ik

[thick edge]

Is modern ww2?

[dapper ridge]

no

[thick edge]

Then no modern

[vale plover]

no tito take over after losing

no 999% resistancer

real shame

yugoslavia might be the only country in the game that CANT be played historical

[brittle venture]

never

[glossy inlet]

Yes probably

[vale plover]

i do think it would go perfectly in a update to the resistance system

since i find its rather lack luster

[glossy inlet]

Id also like if they’d actually do something with the ethnic tensions rather that just fixing it with a focus and that’s it

[brittle venture]

theres a few

i believe

[vale plover]

some have minor mistakes but yugoslavia not being able to be released under tito is majorly ahistorical

[vale plover]

its gonna be another balance of power mechanic ain't it ?

[glossy inlet]

No the bop is binary non of what Yugoslavia had was ever binary lol

[vale plover]

then it will be state decisions like with czechoslovakia

also

ok

i wanna adress this

when better US states and releasables

why is it based off real states with no customizablity ?

[glossy inlet]

There’s not even all 50 states

[vale plover]

yeah

fr

when can i do this

[glossy inlet]

They snubbed New England and the entire Delaware you know the first state like….ever

[vale plover]

also we need a greater canada formable

[glossy inlet]

Fr Mexico having that little indent where Oklahoma panhandle is bugs me immensely

[vale plover]

which cores alaska, new england and washington up to the columbia river

[glossy inlet]

Not even all provinces of Canada are in

[vale plover]

canada rework next

the current focus tree is to weak

[glossy inlet]

More than likely with America

[vale plover]

it needs an update so you can get an assured alliance with mexico

[glossy inlet]

I keep saying they all three need new focus’

[vale plover]

mexico is fine tbh

its flexable

the only BS is that the USSR can kill trotsky even if he leads mexico

and hes like
the best army chief in the game too

[glossy inlet]

The problem with hoi4 is that it definitely won’t be fine when America gets a rework and Mexico doesn’t

[vale plover]

mexico could get minor tweaks like manchuria

which btw

i actually consider in a good spot RN

with the adjustments

only thing is

that they can't core outta manchuria i think ?

let me check real quick

ohhh

they can integrate them

ok

then its good

Thats good then

[glossy inlet]

Thought so

I like manchukuo but in no way am I actually gonna play em

[vale plover]

you know what country should be able to integrate the entire world ?

Albania

its a meme

but make it happen paradox

[glossy inlet]

You know they should give Albania some portraits

[vale plover]

albania needs a massive focus tree

[thick edge]

Didn’t some American politician suggest renaming the US to
United States of earth

[glossy inlet]

Yes

[vale plover]

yeah

but that was

a crackpot suggestion

[glossy inlet]

It was shut down almost immediately

[vale plover]

i feel like paradox should make a meme country DLC

for countries whos international perception is

how shall i say

more as a joke then seriously

oh and

tannu tuva

otherwise ireland

since

it would be funny

[thick edge]

It’s still more legit than Albania owning the whole world

[vale plover]

albania

[vale plover]

I mean they COULD own the entire balkan

their more native to it then the slavs

funnily enough

an illyrian formable for albania would be crazy

[storm sand]

just play the tender loving kingdom from rt56

[glossy inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/wrestlemania-28-john-cena-the-rock-once-in-a-lifetime-wwe-gif-9055940483558100010

Luxembourg vs Albania

[vale plover]

right luxembourg could be the last country for a meme dlc

that would actually go hard as a country pack

[glossy inlet]

Name could be in the shadow of giants

[storm sand]

luxemborg with teh focuses like "sell every citizens organs" - 5000 manpower + 40 civs

[glossy inlet]

Wait….i kinda cooked with that name

[vale plover]

Gaelic union for ireland
Illyria for albania
Burgundy for Luxembourg
and obviously
for tannu tuva
MONGOLIAN EMPIRE

[storm sand]

dont forget being able to set up the sinaloa cartel as venezuela (free civvies)

[vale plover]

do it paradox you cowards

actually

include yuan too

yeah

imagine this as a formable

[storm sand]

make it an integrated puppet

[vale plover]

yeah could do that

i really wish we had better puppet mechanics

like giving them claimed territory outside of peace deals

and being able to create BS puppets like japan did with manchuria

i mean what do you mean i can't create some bs siberian state if i want to ?

[brittle venture]

try kumul khanate

they can get pretty close

[vale plover]

ik ik

but

i mena

mean

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Sandbox for me but not for thee

[vale plover]

by that logic

[vale plover]

if japan can create a manchu state out of nowhere who says i can't create an pacifica state out of california after i win the war against the US

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Wait I just realized the Gallipoli game is coming out soon

On my birthday actually

[vale plover]

thats actually gonna be peak

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This is like mega Australia time

[keen totem]

give it a 14-day focus that cores the entire world

[vale plover]

FOR A SECOUND I THOUGHT YOU HAD A ZOGU PFP LOL

but they really need a focus tree

where if they turn communist
they instantly get level 10 forts on every tile

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Wait…I just realized holdfast is getting a mega update on the same day as taog 😔😔😔

[keen totem]

hoxha schizophrenia path where the more you progress the more forts they build

[vale plover]

approved

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<@&846894118219022336>

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that reminds me of the kaiserredux path

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it's pretty funny

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You can now a afford a full paradox game

[vale plover]

this is real btw

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albania at 1% of their potential btw

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Annex all ahh

[vale plover]

when do we get space colonization in hoi4 ?

with werner von braun giving like

200% buffs for it

where is the US-SOVIET recruit german scientist minigame after the war ended ?

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Unironically Werner got that gigachad chin

[pastel flume]

Brazil gets a 35 day focus to core entire south America while mexico gets a 140 day focus to core southwest USA and Bulgaria has a 140 day focus to unlock decisions to core entire balkans 😭

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Brazil be like that 💪🏻💪🏻

[vale plover]

to be fair they can core all of central america for like

200 PP

[brittle venture]

isnt mexico 210

and like with debuffs

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-300 pp

[storm sand]

still thats op

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I love pp

[storm sand]

u get californian oil

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Pause

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not really

[storm sand]

and texan oil

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Though you can annex usa if you have it puppeted though

[brittle venture]

its better to occupy for resources

[vale plover]

one thing i will never get is why democratic germany can go economy of conquest

[storm sand]

what? democracies cant invade others for resources?

(britan)

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Cause no matter who Germany still be on that grind baby

[vale plover]

ahhhh
Iraq

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germany will be germany and do germany things

[vale plover]

adenauer being the biggest villain of hoi4 is a canon event

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hollowbeing is that you?

[pastel flume]

Or that you can't get the 6th research slot as dem germany

Only In the non dlc germany can get 6

[vale plover]

Kingdom of germany decared war on Mittelafrika

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Especially since theres a lot more to research now compared to before they should really not remove the 6th research slots when they rework a country

[vale plover]

true

to be fair

they have cut down on some research

such as

naval research

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pretty sure now only the US and new zealand can get 6 research slots

[vale plover]

new zealand focus tree while obviously NOT GOOD is not that bad as many people say

6 research slots

buffs in the actual army tree

some factories

can core polynesia

gets some manpower buffs

there is worse

imo the WORST focus tree in the game is EASILY south africa

its garbage

[keen totem]

yeah i'd agree with this

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Lowkey pisses me off that THE best America focus icon came from Australia

[keen totem]

it's boring and you just kinda get nothing from i t

[pastel flume]

Usa still mostly uses generic icons

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🙁

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POV fight in africa for nothing
get barely any good buffs
the army and airforce trees are USELESS

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the US really needs a rework

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only slightly good thing out of south africa is it can request british african colonies up to sudan and core it i think

[vale plover]

You can only core those in your formable i think

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South Africa has like no depth to it at all

I’d like to see a lot of things for South Africa

[keen totem]

yeah

mutapa i think

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its like the 1 thing it has going over australia and canada

but both of these could EASILY get good formables

[pastel flume]

It doesnt core it

[vale plover]

like greater canada and austrasia

[keen totem]

alright so it's garbage then

ive never played south africa and i dont ever intend on it anyways

unless it maybe gets reworked

[pastel flume]

Still not bad though as you can ask for the territory and then go to war with Portugal and form mutapa easily without going to war with uk

[vale plover]

you get a 5% org buff from sending communist volunteers to spain i guess ?

but if you want futher buffs you have to lock yourself out of the decolonization tree

which sucks btw

you have to spend PP to release a country as a puppet

you can't core it like the african union

you get a worthless puppet

yes while at war

but

its still pointless

[coral drift]

Where?

[vale plover]

Steam comment section

Don't worry. We all know how rotten that place is

[coral drift]

Ooh
I left that cesspit long ago since they're moaning about the American rework

IN THE INDIES DEVCORNER

Like, please focus on the topic at hand

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Amen

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Real question what focus packs would you guys genuinely be interested in buying

[vale plover]

Mainly asian and african countries with some formable Potential

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TaoG
But sadly it's overpriced in Indonesia. I bought HoI4 for 107k Rupiah, and TaoG is 220k

I pre-ordered NSB for 109k

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My bad g I mean as in like Czechoslovakia focus pack

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Hmm
Malaya

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Couldn’t have been more obvious lmfao

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Mandate of palestine

[naive pike]

An Egypt one would go hard

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Actually amin al huesseini does have a portrait in the code meant for fascist Palestine but it just isn’t in

[vale plover]

Are there Portraits for the israel Releaseable ?

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I said that to one guy here and he had like the worst arguments against it lmao

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Only Ben gurion

[naive pike]

Who's arguing against a focus pack you don't have to buy?

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No he argued against the idea of Egypt being in the game at all

[naive pike]

Ah I see

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One guy said they were a battlefront of the war and brother did just not care at all

[naive pike]

They had been a country since 1922 apparently

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Why would isreals fascist party be one founded in the 2000s and not irgun

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Irgun wasn’t fascist the only one that was remotely close was the stern gang

[naive pike]

At the very least they should be a country at game start, but some content for them would be great

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He didn’t care about that at all

[naive pike]

Some people man I swear

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He complained about more tags I asked him if he had an ass pc but he never answered

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It was compared to fascists even during their time

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That’s cause the other part the haganah had a bunch of socialist and even commies in there and the Irgun had hardline zios and the stern gang

[naive pike]

Makes some sense

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That was the only part where he had some but it wasn’t at all his actual arguments

Hell some of his arguments didn’t even really relate to Egypt at all it was weird

[naive pike]

Arguing with a fool only proves there are two

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I told him that those aren’t even like actual arguments and he started crash out just a little

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Honestly the best thing for releasables would be minor additions such as portaits, formables, spirits and maybe a couple of regional shared focus trees

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They’ve been doing that but it’s pretty slow

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Imo yugoslav releasables, ussr, german, italian and african could all get one

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I know Georgia has em

[vale plover]

Yeah cause the stalin meme

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Yeah pretty much

[naive pike]

Was it Mr. Mangler?

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Yes yes that guy

[naive pike]

I've got to read up on this argument

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Don’t bother it’s old now

[naive pike]

Oh yea a week eh

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I remember he did say that Egypt wasn’t relevant or maybe someone else said it and I said that maybe some could or should get focus trees for that exact reason so you the player could make them relevant

That was my whole argument for South America as a whole and Afghanistan

[keen totem]

yeah i'd agree with this

i'd say USSR releaseables should maybe get trees at some point?

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egypt would be really nice

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I’d dare say it’s necessary

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maybe a stretch, but it's something i'd say should definitely be added at one point or another

[south fog]

The forgotten Kingdom of Thailand

[hollow coral]

-Monarchist larpers when they cant turn Australia into a funny kingdom

[eternal arch]

why the hell does my screen turn black for like 3 seconds when i close the game

[ruby wind]

are you using fullscreen

[keen totem]

absolutely devastating

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Lel
But if anything, I hope the devs would make the UK-spawned Australian Monarchist uprising placed in West Australia

[green scaffold]

pls no regional shared focus trees

they'll be worse than the default tree

looking at Ethiopia releasables

the default focus tree is kinda busted

but it can be made better

which is a much better option than regional focus tree

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eh its not fun tho

it is strong don't get me wrong

tons of manpower

decent buffs

some industry

theres worse

but it ain't FUN

[green scaffold]

gun 3 by 1939

that's the biggest thing

but yea irs boring