latest-updates

[keen totem]

yeah but i feel like even then poles would be opposed to the idea of pan-slavism

ofc its a funny secret meme path so not a big deal

not that i mind it but i wish that the monarchist paths werent the only fun paths

[fresh cedar]

I’m just saying, if Bears can rule nations and like other meme paths exist. These are very tame and reasonable in comparison

Argentina can form the Fourth Reich with Hitler and core South America and Germany 😭

[fresh cedar]

Little Entente the most fun IMO for Czechs

[keen totem]

yes 100% agree

[fresh cedar]

Which can be Commie or Democratic

[keen totem]

it's ambitious but they're grounded in reality

[fresh cedar]

Commie little Entente lowkey the best bc can just annex your former allies after killing Germany

[keen totem]

and the fact that poland is ruled by the people who were most loyal to piłsudski it's not unreasonable for them to attempt to form some form of intermarium

hell beck tried to form a third europe alliance

[fresh cedar]

My argument was that Pan Slavic would be an end game formable for when you succeeded as little entente and are now consolidating

[keen totem]

with romania and hungary

in the 1920s there was an attempt to sign an alliance with poland, latvia, estonia and finland

[fresh cedar]

Can kinda do it just not to the extent

[keen totem]

yeah and that's why i dislike it

only polish paths i like are the monarchist ones

[fresh cedar]

Same

[keen totem]

the rest seem kinda weird to me

then again im also polish so

it's easy for me to notice some of these little things lol

[keen totem]

for fascist czechoslovakia it'd be reasonable

under gajda

his party believed in pan slavism

[fresh cedar]

For sure

I’d rather that be the generic formable as opposed to Austro-Hungary

But the devs have their vision for the DLC so who are we to argue as the consumer

[fresh cedar]

Would work for Communism too IMO. Current Confederation for democratic is fine

[keen totem]

i dont think pan-slavism would make sense for communism

pan-slavism was more seriously pursued by monarchies and fascist movements from what i know

it wasnt really big in all slavic natioms either

mostly russia and serbia (hence yugoslavia)

[fresh cedar]

Specifically this would make sense in an alt history scenario where Russia goes into a civil war. Eastern Europe would have a power vacuum which Czechs could use to unite Slavs

[hollow lion]

Already been made less RNG

[fresh cedar]

On historical though meh

[keen totem]

im not sure if everyone would agree but i think if russia explodes into a second civil war it should be a more complicated and chaotic thing

[keen totem]

YES THANK YOU

[fresh cedar]

It gets pretty chaotic idk

[keen totem]

poland-czechoslovak confederation is my new favorite formable ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻

[keen totem]

but given how chaotic the first one was it pales in comparison

and that just doesnt make sense to me

i get maybe its simplified for gameplay reasons but

[fresh cedar]

Countries break off though and you’re basically fighting along supply lines. It’s pretty bad

[keen totem]

countries break off but even in these countries there were a bazillion movements fighting each other

ukraine for example

you had the hetmanate, directory, soviets, anarcho-communists, peasent armies and etc

[fresh cedar]

I’m just not sure if that addition would be a good thing

[keen totem]

now ofc for game simplicity yeah

you cant do all that

[fresh cedar]

Like yeah would be cool but idk

[keen totem]

and some of those ideas fall flat too

but it'd be nice if major russian breakaways had

portraits at least

georgia for some reason has the most

[fresh cedar]

Portraits would be nice yeah

[green scaffold]

pog

thank you marijn

[keen totem]

first thing im doing when i get home is playing czechoslovakia and forming poland-czechoslovakia

[hollow coral]

i think the fascist path can be expanded on

more unique albeit it mirrors the monarchist path

[keen totem]

i think it should be the one who can go pan-slavic

if they keep gajda

[hollow coral]

gajda the only leader i think

[hollow coral]

definitely

[keen totem]

no he isnt

[hollow coral]

i find it weird how the first focus is to unite the fascist parties

[hollow coral]

ig krejci is

[keen totem]

hacha and moravec can become leaders

[hollow coral]

yeah besides when they feed germany

a seperate path for them

[keen totem]

i like this

[hollow lion]

Slight mistakes in it, exile aces were already in-game while the focus icon improvements will be in a future patch

@shy lakeWrong chat

[shy lake]

oh mb

[thick edge]

Green Poland!!!

[keen totem]

best formable ever

[gray osprey]

omg nice Czech tree updates

even demanding from austria, cool

[keen totem]

czech corridor

funny

[pseudo wing]

sigh (this was in context of a compromised account)

[median bronze]

laughs in slovakian focus tree

[median bronze]

where

[fresh cedar]

Laughs in HRE/Pan Slavic formables 😔

@meager rose Yo spicy, will we see an HRE/Pan Slavic formable for Czechs. Tree is 10/10 just needs end game formables for 11/10

[hollow lion]

Ill probably do HRE for monarchy branch

[keen totem]

yellow bohemia is the first step to HRE trust..

[mild ledge]

in rt56 or vanlinna

[hollow lion]

vanilla

[mild ledge]

omg

will u add a great moravia too

[hollow lion]

Probably not

Thats basically Kingdom of Bohemia+Hungary+parts of Austria/Romania/Yugoslavia
Might as well do Austria Hungary at that point

[fresh cedar]

Praying this is true

[fresh cedar]

Atleast it would be a unique cool name 😏

[keen totem]

as a cosmetic tag maybe?? 👀

[green scaffold]

make the cosmetic tag of Austria Hungary formed by Czechoslovakia great Moravia true

[hollow lion]

Oh that could be interesting

[green scaffold]

i hate ending up being Austria Hungary I've played that too much

[fresh cedar]

That’s what I’m saying. Maybe a new color too for the love of god 😂

[hollow lion]

Green 😛

Honestly it could be green

[green scaffold]

btw im not sure if this has been noticed yet but PRU is Peru not Prussia

[hollow lion]

Default Austria Hungary is white right? Could reserve that for HRE

[green scaffold]

yea its white

[green scaffold]

finally chak gets his green formable!

[hollow lion]

Is there an olive green somewhere that might conflict.. 🤔

[green scaffold]

uhh
only green i can think of is polish peasant republic

but its light green

[keen totem]

i mean somewhat thinking of non-communist russia but i dont think that's olive

[hollow lion]

Didnt notice this before but apparently Austria turns clay orange if they still exist while someone forms Austria Hungary

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1063052027795607572.webp?size=64

||Content subject to change, yes its a rebrand of Austria-Hungary||

[keen totem]

this makes me really happy

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

is this as non aligned or fascist czechoslovakia?

[hollow lion]

Thats non-aligned

[harsh hull]

Not related to the DLC, but when will the Austria-Hungary formable finally be able to claim Galicia-Lodomeria?

Austria isn't Austria without the Austrian slice of Poland in the top right

[keen totem]

very nice

any ideas for what the flag might be?

[harsh hull]

That's the best part about reviving 9th century kingdoms of dubious size, influence, and even credibility

You can just kinda make it up

[keen totem]

that's true

[harsh hull]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_script
Somehow one of the flags should incorporate this script

Probably the Communist flag, spelling out ⰏⰑⰓⰀⰂⰀ (Morava in that script, if the characters don't load on your device)

[keen totem]

still pretty cool to see

great moravia is very pleasent to look at

[fresh cedar]

Pretty cool ngl 😂

[keen totem]

indeed

wonder if the name will be different for the other ideologies

[pastel flume]

none of the new tags can even form austria-hungary 😭

sudetenland should be able to form germany tbh

[stable tusk]

The only DLC to have multiple updates after release
Anyway I rate this a
Please move the capital to Moravia when this formable is made / 10

[keen totem]

does the new sudetenland tag have a portrait?

[pastel flume]

nope

the fascist leader has a generic portrait

[keen totem]

a shame

[pastel flume]

ruthenia has portraits

galicia doesnt even have leaders

[keen totem]

only saw the democratic party have one

[keen totem]

they could even reuse karl albrecht's portrait

[pastel flume]

yep

[keen totem]

polish habsburg monarch

[keen totem]

do they get a general or something?

[pastel flume]

idk

why does peru have czech industrial concern?

[weary sorrel]

NO! <@&846894118219022336>

[keen totem]

believe it's cause czechoslovakia exported arms to various south american nations in the 1930s

example being the chaco war

[median bronze]

Im working on slovakia but well a big tree takes time

[coral drift]

More utilization for CEF cosmetic tag?

[coral drift]

Okay, neato

[gray osprey]

I wanna start doing achievements, I’ve got 53 from just playing

what are the most fun ones

[vale plover]

why die for danzig

[gray osprey]

oh I've done that one

no idea when

[fresh cedar]

A few definitely have had updates after. They have to bug fix afterall

[meager rose]

Could you explain this a bit more in depth? I think I know what you mean but just want to be sure it's in line with your expectations of using it more.

[coral drift]

The Czech and Slovakians wanted nothing to do with Austria-Hungary. So whatever Central European Formable they can form should've use the CEF cosmetic tag

Even my earlier agreement about using United Balkan tag is rescinded, just use communist version of CEF tag

It fits much more compared to both AHE and UBF

For HRE, idk, I think it was a meme tag introduced in Waking the Tiger, and thus should be used very sparingly

[fresh cedar]

Naw HRE makes the most sense for the kingdom of Bohemia compared to any other

Think HRE should’ve been limited to Victoria for German Empire. As it was

[coral drift]

And it should core Germany, right?
Anyway, who was the leader of the monarchy path again?

[fresh cedar]

Yes, it should get cores on HRE territory.

It’s not like it’s easy to form. You have to occupy a lot of land, so it’s a challenge. But a nice end goal for Bohemia

[coral drift]

If the ruling political group wanted it in the first place, sure go ahead

That way the game remains grounded

[fresh cedar]

Bohemian Kingdom is by default not grounded. As is any non historical path

The game itself is not grounded 😭

[coral drift]

And that's a pity
But i hope TaoG would help the game regain its footing. Enough historical materials to make the paths fun while still grounded

[fresh cedar]

I like a mix. I think some of the most fun trees and content as those which are not grounded

Afterall it’s a game

Not the history channel

Meant to be fun first and foremost

[coral drift]

But i'm serious. No need to invent some wacky formables while the IRL Indonesian figures proposed those themselves in the 1910s-1950s

[fresh cedar]

Yeah and Fascist Czechs wanted Pan-Slavanism but instead we just get AHE which Czechs/Slovaks were against

So any step in the right direction is a good one

[coral drift]

That i'm agree with you
Just let AHE for Austria, Hungary, and tags with generic contents. Tags whose territory is core of the Central European Federation does not count

[fresh cedar]

Would rather see different cores than just a different name too

Which luckily Czechs kinda get through focuses

[fresh cedar]

I don’t really have an opinion on Indonesia yet since we haven’t seen anything for it

[green scaffold]

i think you're way way way too late for that

like

the game has nothing to do with realism or history

and its not trying to

[coral drift]

I was there before MtG

[green scaffold]

yeah im saying that now its too late

[coral drift]

But yeah, the devs definitely shifted for alternative history from WtT onwards

[green scaffold]

and i think that's not only fine but good

i want a fun game

not an historical one

the focus should be how enjoyable content is

[coral drift]

And also respecful to its roots

[green scaffold]

loosely based on reality is good enough for me

[coral drift]

Again, a balance of both is the best

[fresh cedar]

My argument too

[fresh cedar]

Yeah and leaving out fun plausible formables in pursuit of history isn’t balance

[coral drift]

What? I'm not against plausible formables

[fresh cedar]

HRE is plausible

[fresh cedar]

“Meme tag”

[coral drift]

Is the Czech monarch a Habsburg?

I think he's Saxon....

[fresh cedar]

Genuinely if the game never added such things I wouldn’t even be playing it

[coral drift]

Victoria forming it is memetic, also HRE was already dead by 200ish years

[fresh cedar]

How were empires created if not by a strong expansive ruler/government,

You’re assuming no empire can exist because it no longer does

[coral drift]

If the political grouping wanted it back, then sure

Otherwise, it's like forming Intermarium as Falangist Poland
@keen totem back me up on this, he would rather gives up Kresy and keep Poland Polish, right?

Or Sukarno becoming Emperor of Majapahit. A nonsense

[hollow coral]

hes from a noble family

[keen totem]

piasecki not necessarily, dmowski yeah

[coral drift]

Mhm...

[green scaffold]

the entire idea or formables is stupid with absolutely no shred of base in reality

so like

its just a funny haha i resorted an ancient empire

[thick edge]

It’s a game where u can conquer the world as Luxembourg

[coral drift]

Okay, now you're messing
Benelux and Central American Federation are real proposals

[green scaffold]

people would not suddenly feel like equally participation Italian citizens because Rome controlled them 2000 uears ago

[green scaffold]

yea sure im talking about most of them

[coral drift]

Mussolini wanted its return

[thick edge]

It’s a game as well

[green scaffold]

yeah and? he could conquer all of Rome's territory and it wouldn't make the non Italians living there any more likely to support them

than if he just conquered south America

or whatever other land

[coral drift]

Well, now it costs 100pp and 5% stability to integrate them, so there's that
Not too OP

And you need to be selective

I'd say it's a good tradeoff

[green scaffold]

surely 100 pp and 5 stab for 50 factories and 20m core population is not too op

clueless

and like

look at byzantine instead

or whatever

[coral drift]

EEE wanted to form it

But tbh, i wish they make it BftB-only and make Hellas (Greater Greece) free

At least more ppl supported Greater Greece

[green scaffold]

them wanting to form actually just mean getting like the territories of greater greece pretty much

nobody thought to conquer italy

or the entire Balkans, turkey, and north Africa

iran can core the Persian empire from 2500 years ago

[coral drift]

Again, wacky formable
Greater Iran is much more sensible

[green scaffold]

again this is just a game and Persian empire is cool so im happy its in the game and idgaf if its unrealistic

[coral drift]

Don't forget its roots

[green scaffold]

i agree that its nice to have things vaguely based in reality

but very very vaguely is enough for me

just giving every country the option to form yhe greatest extent the country or the people ever reached

is cool for me

[coral drift]

And you need to earn it, and get the right grouping who advocated for it first

Just keep the wackiness to a bare minimum, history can be fun

[green scaffold]

nope

welp, we're going in circles

[coral drift]

Yes
NSB Poland is the best

[fresh cedar]

As it should be as it’s fun for the game

[keen totem]

dmowski wanted a homogenous polish ethnostate state, piasecki was a more of a falangist

[brittle venture]

for iran their culture is rooted in respect and care for their history

so its understandable

but for stuff like timurids its wild

[keen totem]

iirc timurids can be formed by either afghanistan or mughal india right?

[languid wren]

spelling error

PEace for our time

[pseudo wing]

doesnt show that for me

steam being funky again

[thick edge]

its fine for me

[fresh cedar]

Maybe a translation issue?

[pseudo wing]

I mean, I did have that error when I first made the post

I fixed it and saved it

steam just being dumb about it, should fix itself at some point

[keen totem]

saw it earlier with the typo

like yesterday

[pseudo wing]

yeah, it still had it when it originally went out which was my bad, but like a minute or two after it went live I corrected it, it took about 10 minutes for the automod to allow the edit and then it was good

[brittle venture]

spelling error from chak... unbelievable

[keen totem]

[pseudo wing]

hands work faster than brain sometimes, that is the way of ADHD

[mystic ice]

there is a typo in the new patchnote

[keen totem]

typo is gone on my end

[mystic ice]

kek

[bitter mauve]

True

[mystic ice]

lmao

[coral drift]

Missing loc detected (last line in the focus effects)

[languid wren]

Yes

typo is now gone

[crimson tartan]

there was no typo.

it's all psyops

[keen totem]

truth

[storm sand]

https://klipy.com/gifs/morgan-freeman-true-2--k01KQJNRE89D64XGGM3CWMPS9W6

[timid nimbus]

<@&846892247651057716>

[last moon]

There's nothing?

[blazing flint]

good

If someone is saying check my bio, its a scam and hacker trying to get you to join a server so they can steal your account

[last moon]

Yeah, the dude maybe got their account back and deleted their bio and not the messeages

[crimson tartan]

check mah bio

[whole arch]

<@&846894118219022336>

In multiple channels

[cerulean hamlet]

70 days to learn stealing lmao

not worth it at all

[valid flame]

Can someone invite me to The New Order's server please

The public invite doesn't work for some reason

[median bronze]

cmon air

[verbal wave]

whats the design?

[pastel flume]

ngl having this decision be visible even with the toa dlc disabled doesnt make that much sense since its impossible without it lol

[green scaffold]

it also appears when playing nations other than Brazil and controlling the territory which is also stupid because you can never do it

[pastel flume]

true

[lament quail]

add it to the pile of "things that could be fixed in an hour or two but will be fixed in 2-3 years if ever"

[pastel flume]

Finno Ugra:

[crimson tartan]

did you ever report it

[lament quail]

No, but I did report similar stuff previously (or, often, went to report it and found it reported months/years ago)

[finite pollen]

when you put the latest version of something like a rifle onto production units that use said types of equipment should phase out older ones for the newest one automatically right?

[crimson tartan]

🇾 🇪 🇸

[lament quail]

yes, but gradually according to how well they are supplied

[coral drift]

The older equipments used in a given division would be gradually phased out by the new ones
And when the supply of the new ones are low, the division would reuse the old equipments

Unless the division template as a whole is explicitly ordered to not use a particular equipment, they would use that equipment if it's available

[coral drift]

My explanation is the long version of this one

[spark flare]

Thats what the arrow button is after the red + disappeares

[fresh cedar]

Think I’m sorta done with Czech now unless formables added. Got probably a good 15-20 hours out of it. And man, German AI can really struggle to fight it now, especially with little entente

[lament quail]

I don't think full little entente is winnable for Germany without cheese

[hollow lion]

At least one formable will get added

and at least 3 will get cosmetic changes

[hollow lion]

Sounds like a fun challenge, I imagine the strat would be to encircle Entente troops in Poland

[fresh cedar]

Totally agree. Saw AI Czech fight AI Germany.

Germany got stomped

[fresh cedar]

That’s good

I really like to play as the Czechs. Was just the end game goals that I found to be limiting. Like I’d conquer Europe and just be like welp, what now

[keen totem]

may we get any hints as to what they are?

[hollow lion]

One is Great Moravia, other 2 is a surprise, except that one replaces Balkan Union

[keen totem]

interesting

cant wait

[fresh cedar]

Next patch?

[harsh hull]

The catch: Next patch is 3 months away

[fresh cedar]

Probably within a few weeks

That’s really good news though

[keen totem]

formables for end game will make czechoslovakia feel more fun

im hyped

[fresh cedar]

Same, will keep me coming back to it tbh.

[spark flare]

When’s the usa rework?

[blazing flint]

Probably next year

[hollow coral]

i want to say optimistically late this year

[full light]

I hope UK gets the update first but it’s true both need it

[hollow coral]

Gtd and ncns both major dlcs were released wt that time

[spark flare]

Tbh france needs the rework the most

Most boring nation by far

[hollow coral]

i agree it is probably the most boring

But realistically its most likely the usa next

[cosmic stag]

i hope they add in a future dlc/expansion new SPs like: assault rifles and mbts

[spark flare]

Wouldn’t be accurate since its 1936-1950 time period

[cosmic stag]

bruh the stg44 AR was made in 1942 and produced in 43

[hollow coral]

i mean ig

its really just bigger numbers

[fresh cedar]

Nah French monarchy paths are fine. USA needs it more

[fresh cedar]

Many assault rifles were made by 1950. Game should have a special project for a last new tier of weapons

[hollow coral]

they are playable

but they are in dire need of some flavour

[fresh cedar]

Really they need more content

[hollow coral]

realistically though usa needs it first

then there can be a debate between uk and france

[fresh cedar]

In an ideal world, UK and France would get reworked in the same DLC. Even if it was just them and Egypt. Would be top tier

[hollow coral]

honestly would prefer uk + commonwealth dlc

and french + colonies

[fresh cedar]

Doubt they’d do that in 2026 HOI4 but would be nice

[fading walrus]

Egypt needs to be on the map

[spark flare]

Usa and uk are actually fun to play. France makes me want to take a shower and touch some grass. It NEEDS a rework

[hollow coral]

ofc

[coral drift]

Any reveals for Siam and Dutch East Indies this week?

[hollow coral]

havent got any dev corners in a while

[keen totem]

definitely

[crimson tartan]

not at all

https://tenor.com/view/keep-talking-tell-me-more-gif-622102046791293673

[fading walrus]

It was a potocorate of the uk with a goverment under supervision and was a monarchy

[crimson tartan]

yeah and

[keen totem]

it was technically "independent" since 1922

[crimson tartan]

egypt did not participate in ww2

[fading walrus]

It did because of the North African campaign

[keen totem]

war still took place on it's territory

[crimson tartan]

being battle area != participate in war

[fading walrus]

2 battles of el almien

Sidi Barani as well

[crimson tartan]

um yeah

that's how it happens in hoi4 right now

[fading walrus]

Then why is Portugal in the game

And turkey, Argentina and Chile because they barely did anything in WWII

[crimson tartan]

oh don't be lusophobic

[fading walrus]

I’m trying to make a case

[crimson tartan]

it will be just another dummy nation on the map

[fading walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt_in_World_War_II

[coral drift]

I'm already making my support for this known for so long

[fading walrus]

Nationalist pro German Egypt would be interesting

Quick question would nasser be non aligned or communist I think he would be the former but could make an alliance with the USSR

[keen totem]

an early free officers movement would also be interesting

[keen totem]

i think it could be like the indian tree, where you can have nasser (like bose) appoint a "pro-soviet government" to turn it communist

[coral drift]

Depends whether Nasser is already that prominent

[fading walrus]

That’s what I think

[keen totem]

mohamed naguib could be used for the democratic path

he's already leader for egypt if it gets released as a democracy though he has no portrait

[fading walrus]

Possible expansion options for Egypt

Would be funny getting a war goal on Turkey after going independent

[keen totem]

for a monarchist path yeah

[fading walrus]

Fascist and communist and democratic should be pan Arabism

[keen totem]

i feel a monarchist path would be placing farouk on the throne and training him to be more competent (irl he doesnt have the greatest reputation from what i know)

[keen totem]

absolutely

[fresh cedar]

Would probably just get Arabia formable and African Union path

[keen totem]

eh, dont feel egypt should get african union

[fresh cedar]

Nasser and other Egyptian leaders literally supported African Unity

Egypt was a founding member of the Organization of African Union

[keen totem]

african unity doesnt necessarily mean uniting the continent into one state

[fresh cedar]

Never said it was

[keen totem]

i just would personally rather egypt go down the pan-arab route then forming the african union

maybe it could be a mutually exclusive thing? idk

[fresh cedar]

I just see them as different. Pan Arab is a unified state whereas anti-colonialist African Union is more of a faction and about liberating Africa.

[glossy inlet]

You’re wrong on this one man

There should definitely be a pharaohist path for Egypt

[crimson tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-shocked-ariana-grande-ariana-wicked-gif-9352977018792188008

D E A R G O D

[glossy inlet]

What

[crimson tartan]

we don't need THAT level of shizo content

[glossy inlet]

You do realize pharaonism was a real thing right?

It was still a thing in the 40s

If we can get that zoro shit for Iran I don’t see why a little cosmetic tag for Egypt would be so bad

[whole arch]

Mmm yes, just what we need, more tags on the map

[glossy inlet]

Yes I’d say Egypt is a pretty important tag

[crimson tartan]

not at all

🙂

[glossy inlet]

Yes like at all bruh people have told you multiple reasons bro

[whole arch]

I think it would be neat, but I think PDX shouldn't focus on adding new nations and instead focus on reworking old ones, updating mechanics, etc.
Also, with the way Clausewitz is right now, another tag would cause more issues than enjoyability, especially because not many people would have an interest in playing Egypt. I mean, an African minor nation that is under the control of Britain and with not many resources + bordered by Italy.

[crimson tartan]

egypt had no army and never declared war on axis until 1945

[glossy inlet]

So?

[crimson tartan]

what the point of adding it

and how you gonna show it

[glossy inlet]

Neither did turkey or Argentina that’s a non argument ngl

[glossy inlet]

Put it on the map?….what

[glossy inlet]

They can do both I don’t really see this point

[crimson tartan]

so it will be yet another dummy tag on the map that will reduce your avarege tick speed right

[glossy inlet]

No? There’s going to be cool shit obviously I mean it’s Egypt

[glossy inlet]

How shit is your pc? Genuinely asking

[crimson tartan]

historical path > do nothing, do nothing, do nothing, be defended by brits, do nothing, do nothing)

[glossy inlet]

Who would do historical lmao

[glossy inlet]

Again dude another non argument I’m sorry

[crimson tartan]

alt-hist path > do something, conquer everone, "decolonisation" (is just colonization by you), the world is yours

[glossy inlet]

Yes that’s hoi4

Non of these are like actual arguments dude like I don’t see it man

[crimson tartan]

unless it is focus pack for 1 nation only like pfot

i see no point in such an addition

[glossy inlet]

It would probably be in the uk dlc

[crimson tartan]

the argument is that instead of adding new nation that only 1% of the player will actually play, devs could focus on already existing nations

[glossy inlet]

I don’t see how saying they did nothing in ww2 is even worth saying cause like I thought the whole point of these nations getting trees WAS to make em relevant in the war

[glossy inlet]

They are though?

[crimson tartan]

then the next countries to get a new focus tree are luxemburg, mongolia and egypt

no british or us sorry

they are already relevant

[glossy inlet]

That’s not what I’m saying like at all

That’s a false equivalence

And you simply misunderstood my point

The reason why countries like turkey or Portugal or Switzerland or South America in general or Sweden is because by adding them in the game they can BE relevant through what you do as the player not because they aren’t relevant

The whole point is to make them part of ww2 so saying they didn’t take part as a reason why they shouldn’t even have trees is nonsense cause the trees will make them take part if you do choose to do so

[crimson tartan]

well the new game director may have the same view

we'll see

[glossy inlet]

I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if you see more focus packs in the future since this one was received moderately well in regards to its actual contents but I’d imagine they’d be reworks than adding new countries

I could definitely imagine a a focus pack for the Netherlands and Mexico

[harsh hull]

I'd buy a solo Egypt pack

It would probably be too controversial to pair them up with Palestine/Jordan/Syria/Lebanon anyway

[glossy inlet]

It would most likely be lumped up with a UK dlc

Probably uk, Ireland, Egypt, and maybe South Africa or something

[fresh cedar]

Honestly doubt Mexico will get another tree

[glossy inlet]

I think it will it’s pretty outclassed and dated and it doesn’t display the politics right at all

[fresh cedar]

Plus they tend to do DLC with a theme of countries. This mix is a little random

[glossy inlet]

All uk oriented it’s not random

[fresh cedar]

Yeah but completely different regions

[glossy inlet]

That’s the uk for you

[fresh cedar]

Together for victory made sense bc they were all dominions basically

[glossy inlet]

I know that

[fresh cedar]

Egypt and Ireland aren’t really British at this point

[glossy inlet]

Let’s be honest Ireland will absolutely be included in a British dlc

And Egypt can only really be included in a British one too

[fresh cedar]

I’d rather it just get a single tree like the Czechs

Egypt could be in a greater North Africa pack tbh

[glossy inlet]

Let’s be honest no ones paying 6$ for Ireland Czechs makes sense but Ireland no

Hell people were pissy about the Czechs anyways

[glossy inlet]

No

[fresh cedar]

Yeah bc they wanted Slovakia

[glossy inlet]

That’s half of it but mainly because to them the Czechs just aren’t worth it

[fresh cedar]

Well yeah, it’s a Word War 2 game and North Africa was an important theater of WW2.

[glossy inlet]

No ones paying for a North Africa dlc man let’s be real

Egypt is the one thing people care for about that reagier

Region

[fresh cedar]

I would easily wtf 😂. Egypt, and then also French/Italian territories would be cool

[glossy inlet]

You would

[fresh cedar]

Yes and others in here have also expressed interest.

[glossy inlet]

I would pay for a Central American dlc but I know damn well it won’t happen

[fresh cedar]

There was literally a discussion about it like this morning or yesterday

[fresh cedar]

I wouldn’t be so certain tbh

Though ultimately I feel like most of them would be the same just forming Central America

[glossy inlet]

You know pissy people would be about Central America getting its own dlc?

They’re freaking out over South America

[fresh cedar]

HOI4 players are pissy about anything.

[glossy inlet]

That’s what I’m trying to say

[fresh cedar]

Bc ultimately many are just German larpers

Allies in general need work

[glossy inlet]

I mean I was always happy about toa cause it covered South America but everyone else hated it cause it was South America

[fresh cedar]

Though was genuinely really fun and each country felt unique enough

A lot of the hate was misplaced

People can’t comprehend that World War means WORLD war and not just Europe lol

[glossy inlet]

I didn’t mind the shared military and air and naval branches I understood you can only make em so unique

[fresh cedar]

Actually made it better bc of that imo

Was clean and intuitive

Compared to India, it’s way way better

That tree is so weirdly built

[glossy inlet]

I just hope the cover the rest and maybe make it so where you actually can become communist in Paraguay as right now it’s just a guy who was a military socialist like Bolivia but he’s seen as communism in game

Makes no sense

[fresh cedar]

Think realistically only France and USA need content. UK actually has a good tree but could be updated to fall in line with current spirit based systems

[glossy inlet]

India isn’t bad just way too bloated

[fresh cedar]

Doubt they will ever touch Paraguay again sadly

[fresh cedar]

It’s fun I just mean the way the tree is setup. It’s like walking into a cluttered old persons home

[glossy inlet]

Uk needs work I mean they have Mosley going after Germany when his whole shtick was not going after Germany

[glossy inlet]

They should just make it a decision and portrait and call it a day that’s all it really needs

[fresh cedar]

Probably wouldn’t just bc easily modded

[fresh cedar]

I’m just saying, compared to the others it’s quite a strong and diverse tree

They nerfed the USA into the ground imo

[glossy inlet]

True but it clearly showing its age

[glossy inlet]

USA is probably this year no doubt

Maybe USA Canada and Mexico

[fresh cedar]

I just don’t want them to change Mosley’s order 66 😭

Can annex all your puppets like instantly, then form the empire and go to core Europe

Ik if they reworked that’s going away

[glossy inlet]

Definitely

[fresh cedar]

UK will probably just start crippled like every other new country

Annoyingly I feel like they’d make you focus on a branch and couldn’t just be a jack of all trades like now

[fresh cedar]

I’d like a North America DLC

[glossy inlet]

I hope there’s a path for Australia that lets you stay in the empire if you go fascist as they weren’t anti imperial maybe you can have it if Mosley is in power

[fresh cedar]

Forms Australasia

I do like how much the Czech DLC interacted with ahistorical content

Hope more DLC does that

[glossy inlet]

I think Malaysia might get portraits

Sucks they’re not getting anything

Maybe Malaysia might come with a uk dlc

I mean it’s it only vehicle for a tree now

[fresh cedar]

Truly they aren’t getting anything?

[glossy inlet]

Nope no tree

[fresh cedar]

Yeah dang that’s sad but whatever

[glossy inlet]

Maybe some generals and leaders but that’s it

[fresh cedar]

I’m sure people will cry about it

[glossy inlet]

People have

I understand as well this type of dlc was their golden ticket for a tree

[fresh cedar]

Feel like Malaysia would play similarly to Indonesia

Obviously different politics but it’s goals and capacity

Still would’ve been nice to have a tree

I liked how Paraguay and Uruguay got trees. Like they weren’t huge trees but content nonetheless

[glossy inlet]

They did say they aim to have everyone have a tree but that was years and years ago

[fresh cedar]

It is the ultimate goal yeah

Hoping they achieve it

[glossy inlet]

It irks me that Uruguay doesn’t have a commie path as it irks me when any country misses a path honestly

[glossy inlet]

That was two game directors ago so it’s all up in the air

[fresh cedar]

Who is the current game director?

[glossy inlet]

I don’t know I heard they’re changing the guard or something

I didn’t look into it

[fresh cedar]

I know a new guy started last year I believe. But in the video he said he never played before but was starting to lol

I’m not sure if he was the replacement though

Or filled another role

[glossy inlet]

Like directors of movies of adaptations for genres they don’t like

I mean I would certainly like to have all of them have trees and I do think it isn’t the time for hoi5 just yet

I think the big problem is navigating what can and what will sell

[fresh cedar]

Yeah because the guy Erik and Midgeman moved on I believe, and now Arheo

[fresh cedar]

I agree

My exact stance too

[fresh cedar]

Think if the focus pack was just less expensive people would buy them up

[glossy inlet]

I think they should see what works in hoi4 as a sort of testing ground for what to translate for hoi5

[glossy inlet]

True

I don’t mind the price too much as well I don’t pay for the mechanics i usually pay for the focus trees the only mechanic I was genuinely interested in was special projects and spies

[fresh cedar]

I’m just curious what all the former HOI4 devs including Arheo are working on

I’d guess Cold War or Modern just bc untapped market by paradox

[glossy inlet]

It’s entirely possible it could be hoi5 or maybe an off shoot

[fresh cedar]

Yeah same

[glossy inlet]

It wouldn’t surprise if they tried something more concentrated on the Cold War as they’ve been very interested about it for a while now

[fresh cedar]

I’d buy, a spy game would be fun. I know everyone instantly points to the news Espionage game but

[keen totem]

the US should be stronger

[keen totem]

Espiocracy?

i mean it looks really good

im hyped for it

[keen totem]

i like how they have small and simple trees

it's not much but it just gives a little bit more flavor even when you dont play as them

[glossy inlet]

It should’ve been what they did for Luxembourg for gdr and Mongolia for ncns

But alas

[keen totem]

meh they're fun enough to play

i don't mind them having trees

im not opposed to more countries getting content

[fresh cedar]

I’m reserving hype for when I actually play it

[glossy inlet]

Mongolia should’ve definitely had a tree for ncns

[fresh cedar]

My only gripe with Mongolia is they’d have really difficult expansionism options

[glossy inlet]

Would’ve been nice to see more Soviet interaction in Asia besides simple border conflict

[glossy inlet]

True but they doesn’t stop hoi players

Or me from just using console commands because I’ve no patience

[keen totem]

fair

[keen totem]

i mean early-game expansion into mengjiang maybe?

and maybe a peaceful annexation of tuva

is what i'm kinda imagining

[glossy inlet]

They probably would’ve added a focus where you ask for a chunk of Siberia knowing the devs

[distant fox]

i could see them joinign the ussr and expanding all over asia

but like

nah

[glossy inlet]

Thats kinda Japan

I’m not a big fan of Japan always having to kick the stuffing out of China in every damn path

Come to think of it I’m not really a fan of Japans commie paths at all really

Especially since it doesn’t really make sense in the grand scheme of things though obviously just made to be out in cause it’s still a game

[keen totem]

i think commie paths in general are just kinda boring

[glossy inlet]

They are unless your Germany maybe….soviets don’t count but I’m not a big fan of either anti Stalin paths and the 28 Bolsheviks path for red China suck ass

[storm sand]

what about the union of european soviet socialist republics

[fresh cedar]

Communist German Formable is pretty cool actually

[keen totem]

communist china is actually pretty fun

[glossy inlet]

Historical yes

[glossy inlet]

And depending on what happens in game even the diarchy path but the Bolshevik path is vastly outclassed by both

[lucid rain]

I do look forward to Egypt

[glossy inlet]

One of these days it’ll surely be here

I also hope they make sure so they control Sudan as well

[pastel flume]

probably when they make the AI care about their puppet's fronts

[wooden wyvern]

wasnt like black ice or some other mod that made all the colonies tags

and like they couldnt remove them because the ai wouldnt care about its fronts unless they were puppets

or smth

like literally the opposite of what paradox runs into

[brittle venture]

well, no

BICE has freedom to give a lot of units to the puppets (and ai prefers its own borders)

they also wouldnt want units stuck in the ocean travelling back and forth due to AI logic

[finite pollen]

which version of hoi4 adds coal?

i would like to not have coal

[green scaffold]

1.17

[finite pollen]

thank you

[gray osprey]

awww

yea coal is mostly annoying

though it feels way better in the recent updates with all the ways to get more & ger more out of what you have

[blazing flint]

There is a mod that removes it

[finite pollen]

ah that's more convenient

is the mod named litterally like remove coal?

[blazing flint]

yes

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it’s only an issue with a few countries at first but for most just isn’t

Like new techs literally remove 30% of the usage, plus you can get rid of more even in other ways

[golden island]

Does anyone know anything new about the should we make achievements easier form?

[fresh cedar]

I don’t quite understand your question.

[golden island]

The community recap where we were asked to fill a form where we select if achievements should be easier

Or gained when using mods or with/without ironman mode

[fresh cedar]

Think it was moreso for paradox to gauge our opinion on it rather than metrics they’d actually share with us and act on

[golden island]

I hope they change the ironman for achievements requirement

That is the only thing holding me back from playing every day

For some reason

Since in CK3 ironman isnt a requirement i think there is a chance

[fresh cedar]

I actually prefer it stay Ironman as it makes them harder to achieve. More rewarding that way. Otherwise people can just get everything with mods and cheese it

I voted for it to stay Ironman 😂

[golden island]

Dunno about the mods part but i dont want to spend days on getting a single achievement because i didnt get 1 state in the peace deal

Plus most OG players have their achievements from bugs i believe

[fresh cedar]

Whole point is for it to be difficult though and not achievable in every game. And yeah without Ironman it can be obtained through mods

[fresh cedar]

I’ve played since the game came out and I got everything legit idk

Would rather it remain a challenge rather than merit badges to be easily obtained by boyscouts

[golden island]

the capitulating glitch

[shadow coyote]

anyone have their own server so we can play together

[fresh cedar]

Never heard of that glitch or exploited glitches tbh. If I wanted to cheat I’d just use a trainer

[golden island]

i dont want to cheat either i just dont want to make 5 saves to do the exact same thing

without ironman i can just load a past save and could learn easier from my mistakes

[fresh cedar]

That’s what makes achievements fun 😂

[golden island]

having to spend hours to recreate what i did to repair one mistake?

[fresh cedar]

Yes, that’s what makes it a challenge. Have to use more critical thinking skills, plan and play reserved. Otherwise if you just yolo like any game then you lose.

[golden island]

Spending hours to replicate the exact same thing i did in a previous save that went wrong due to late war declaration?

[fresh cedar]

Emphasis on planning

[golden island]

mistakes can happen and cost hours

[fresh cedar]

That’s true, and what makes it a challenge. If you can save scum it defeats the purpose.

[thick edge]

I thought this too

[fresh cedar]

We just have different opinions on it and can talk about it in circles forever. So just gonna say I respect your opinion but it differs 😂

[golden island]

Dunno for me it just seems time wasing

[golden island]

Your right

[thick edge]

However formables should be like vic3

Own most of the land

[golden island]

I have rookie number hours in hoi4 so i should really be one to argue about achievements

[fresh cedar]

I agree, sometimes you miss one state and it’s either invade and war with mega faction or not form it

[golden island]

Going to war with the allies over gibraltar/some britsh puppet

[thick edge]

I have 39 achievements with a few thousand hours

Achievements don’t appeal to me that much

But u should earn it

Not do some cheesy exploit

[golden island]

I have over 1 thousand and still dont understand certain mechanics

Thats what annoys me

[thick edge]

Like this one

[golden island]

By the time i get back to where i lost i just lose again and have to spend hours on end

[thick edge]

They can just participate in a war

Take a single province

Release it, and then kill it

[golden island]

I think this achievement is an prime example of what they meant in the survery

[thick edge]

It was my genuine favorite achievement too

[golden island]

How do you even capitulate the ussr as afganistan

[thick edge]

March horses up to Moscow

Literally

They pushed me back from Stalingrad all the way to Kabul

It was great

[golden island]

Maybe you guys are right and i just have a massive skill issue

[golden island]

I got nostalgia from previous saves

It just all got worse after i bought the dlcs

With the tank/planes designers and templates

[thick edge]

It usually ends up being that for most people

But achievements being DLC locked are dumb

[golden island]

ESPECIALLY THE TANKS

[thick edge]

I don’t know which are, but I’m pretty sure there are a few

[golden island]

They were always useless to me 90% of the time

But i also think 90% of the time i was ignoring my fuel shortage

[keen totem]

i would agree and say it should stay ironman

[fresh cedar]

Otherwise it’s Mega Weenie Hut Juniors

[keen totem]

achievements should be a challenge there's no reason why most of them should be made "easier" to get unless they're borderline impossible due to bugs or game changes

[fresh cedar]

Preaching to the choir

[keen totem]

fair point

[fresh cedar]

Only had bugs with a few. Like I beat the Soviets as Afghanistan and didn’t get the achievement

Otherwise I have like 200+ achievements I think?

[keen totem]

i only got 49

cant say ive encountered any glitches though

when it comes to achievements

[glossy inlet]

I’ve tried but my patience could never with any achievements really

Well I mean the ones you actually have to try to get not the join faction one or something

[fresh cedar]

Still would like them to remain an optional challenge though

[coral drift]

Same
But I wanted the devs to make some achievements easier and mostly making sense within the context of the country content. Keep the pop-cultural references minimal

[hollow lion]

https://tenor.com/view/roberto-roberto-futurama-futurama-roberto-stabbing-gif-19178888

xd

If you want to cheese it you might as well cheat them
If you want playing achievements to be fun mods and saving I think both help

[fresh cedar]

I mean can already play with Ironman mods

[fresh cedar]

Why keep pop culture references minimal for achievements?

[coral drift]

Afghanistan capping the Soviets is insane

Or at least, pick pop-culture references for easy-medium achievements

[fresh cedar]

People still manage it though. Fun challenge

I like a range of easy to very hard like what currently exists

I never think removing variability is a good thing

[hollow lion]

I dont like the achievements that are 10% challenge and 90% tediousness

[blazing flint]

Thats just most of the achivements

[hollow lion]

As Italy, take Austria before the Anschluss and never enter a faction with a fascist Germany
As the Philippines, launch nuclear missiles from a nuclear submarine.

[blazing flint]

They arent hard or anything, just really really really annoying and tedious

[fresh cedar]

The nuclear submarine is fine, just time consuming so might aswell play a normal game and have that in the back of your mind

The Italy one is absurd 😂

[hollow lion]

My normal games end in 1942-1944

nuclear submarine forces you into the 50's I think

[fresh cedar]

Mine around 1955-1960 I want to say

[hollow lion]

jesus

[blazing flint]

I end around 48

Ill go past 50 sometimes

[fresh cedar]

I defeat every major opposition and sometimes World Conquest in mine

[blazing flint]

like my most recent soviet game

[hollow lion]

Going post 1952~ is painful because the game will become really slow but Ive done it a few times

[blazing flint]

It wasnt that bad weirdly enough

[fresh cedar]

It doesn’t slow down for me really. But with a different PC I’d probably stop then too

[hollow lion]

Tbh I dont really play weak minors, I like chill games

[fresh cedar]

I play a mix I guess

I like any country that can start meh and become really big

[blazing flint]

I do prefer majors

and stronger minor nations

[fresh cedar]

Majors are certainly more chill

For me the Soviets are generally not chill to play because everyone invades you

Atleast in ahistorical

[blazing flint]

Soviets is one of my favorites

[fresh cedar]

Historical Soviets is goated. On ahistorical it’s just tedious

Legit every neighbor will invade you

[blazing flint]

yeah

Japan will make you fight in siberia lmao

[fresh cedar]

Estonia, Finland, Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey, Romania, Italy and Japan all separately declared war on me yesterday as the Soviets

In a 3 year span

Just as id start to almost clear a region another would invade far away

[blazing flint]

Ouch

[fresh cedar]

And Japan did the fight Soviet path so they never got ground down in China 😂

But I took Poland and Germany by 1938 so was good in Europe atleast

[blazing flint]

the most annoying thing would have 100% been Iran and Afghanistan

No supply on those borders

Got to build from scratch

[fresh cedar]

Luckily had helped commie Greece annex Turkey so had a pretty big border with Iran

[blazing flint]

Japan would be fairly easy to defend against and push out of asia, but capping could be annoying

[fresh cedar]

It was until they suddenly puppeted my puppet, Mongolia. Which deleted 48 of my divisions

Even though they didn’t have a tile of it

And it was 100% communist

I was kinda defending by Tanna Tuva and Mongolia to let their supply drain while I fought in Europe. So when they deleted 70% of my forces in the east with a decision I had to reshuffle a lot

[fresh cedar]

Capping was double annoying bc China had also declared war against me 😂

Think Ahistorical is just a bit extreme as many have said

[crimson tartan]

wait a minute

there are nuclear submarines

🧐

[hollow lion]

I assume you need Gotterdammerung DLC

if you havent spotted them

[crimson tartan]

i got it

and i've never seen this

or at least never used

1. i don't like navy

2. it is special project (i guess)

3. i don't like navy
4. it's late game thing

[fresh cedar]

Does act as a mobile rocket site though so can build cheaper MRBM’s and park it right by enemy coastlines

I still prefer ICBM’s

[crimson tartan]

kinda cool for RP purposes

[fresh cedar]

Nuclear submarines just aren’t super worth imo

[crimson tartan]

and cold war mods

[crimson tartan]

like 80% of the things in the game

[fresh cedar]

Yeah but I do like options exist

Sometimes gives me things to do late game if a war is dragging on

[abstract plover]

WHEN DLC FOR FREE 😡

[smoky atlas]

And the expansion pass is still 40+€/$

[crimson tartan]

i think

june

something like 6th

🤫

[abstract plover]

pls 99.9% discount for la resistance and gottarenderug

[fresh cedar]

Because all the content hasn’t released yet

[stable tusk]

I'm still hoping that June 6th will have an announcement of updates to all the D Day nations (US, UK, Canada) for the 10th anniversary of the game

[smoky atlas]

this is not a reason to make it that expensive

[fresh cedar]

So normally DLC go on sale once all content is released. Being that it isn’t yet, it’s still full price.

This is how game sales have always worked lol

[smoky atlas]

the main contents of the expansion pass is already out...

this is enough content to have a lower price

[fresh cedar]

No it’s not, and also no that’s not how steam sales or videogame sales ever worked. It’s not about feelings. It’s about a product being released, especially for DLC. For an expansion pass to qualify it effectively needs to be complete which it is not.

And Thunder at Our Gates is literally the second largest part of the DLC expansion

In conclusion, in no world would it be lowered by this point.

[keen totem]

hopefully

[fresh cedar]

That would be amazing.

[keen totem]

not only would it rework three really important countries during WW2, it also fits thematically

but we can only hope for now

[thick edge]

💦

[crimson tartan]

they don't care about dates

[fresh cedar]

I miss some of the more content rich war effort patches

Hoping the next patch is a good one

[keen totem]

hopefully

[stable tusk]

Well GDR was announced on German Unification Day
And the game was literally released on the anniversary of D Day so for the 10th anniversary it would make sense
But we can only hope

[crimson tartan]

coincidence 🙂

except the release date

it was intentional

[stable tusk]

Uh what

[thick edge]

It would be rlly nice

If it happened

And cool!!!

[fresh cedar]

I wonder if they were to rework them in any capacity, what that would look like.

[stable tusk]

Maybe more extensive political paths for each of them and better military trees
(Since those trees are all from the time where most focus trees give you research boosts instead of stat bonuses)

[fresh cedar]

Would like to see Army/Air/Navy spirits for each

[safe plover]

demcratic btw

[hollow lion]

I guess you released Slovakia after siding with the Czech nationalists?

its a pretty bad event option so we didnt anticipate people taking it ig

[safe plover]

no just go with the confederation path

[restive dagger]

Czechoslovakia povooo vole

[safe plover]

and then just reannex slovakia cause u need the manpower

[restive dagger]

Miloš Zeman power 😅

[hollow lion]

So you went alt-democratic then flipped ideology?

[safe plover]

yeah the eventz after losing the sudetennland flips u nonaligned

[hollow lion]

Ah, I assume you lost the 2nd republic cosmetic tag after you annexed Slovakia

📝

I guess the text isnt inaccurate since you do those first things democratic, it just shouldnt make you into the Kingdom

[safe plover]

ah yes the president of austria hungary

federalized autria hungary

[safe plover]

i mean u can keep being democratic , that would make more sense to me since u still have to be a republic ( well technically a republic doesnt have to be democratic but still)

[coral drift]

And this is why I mod it to make other tags than AUS and HUN adopted the CEF cosmetic tag instead of AHE

[vocal hull]

if only they applied the 70% to no step back because im 4 dollars short

🥹

actualy that wouldnt even be enough i would be .17 SHORT

[crimson tartan]

i wonder why won't they apply 5-10% to the recent dlcs 😔

i know they usually do it 1 year after release

but 10% it's not that much

[gray osprey]

weren’t they on sale in their previous big sale not that long ago

[crimson tartan]

at least not ncns

[fresh cedar]

Which DLC are you referring to?

NCNS?

[crimson tartan]

mostly

[fresh cedar]

How much is it now?

[crimson tartan]

$24

[fresh cedar]

Ah

Yeah that’s about the price it is everywhere lol

[fresh cedar]

Do we know when the next patch is? 😔

[hollow lion]

I think we're leaving that a surprise

[crimson tartan]

6th of June 🥳

[hollow lion]

Not that late

[crimson tartan]

wait it's saturday

nah

[thick edge]

.2% sales!!!

[fresh cedar]

Aw man it’s just naval stuff

None of the flavor for Czechs 😤

[strong raptor]

When will the update come to the game ?

[fresh cedar]

It’s a beta, you just have to select the version in settings

[coral drift]

Ah, okay

Hmm, at least TaoG news would be at next week

Hopefully on next Monday lel

[strong raptor]

Is there any mods that improve navy AI ?

Issue is a lot the strike force never comes out after first 1-2 years

[fresh cedar]

Seems like the beta sought to correct that

[strong raptor]

Il try it out , but there is no mods meantime that improves that ?

[fresh cedar]

No idea, I don’t really care for navy.

[strong raptor]

Ok

[hollow coral]

notification got me excited

but it was just the beta

[reef blade]

本是同根生，相煎何太急

hihi

🍮

[analog burrow]

Hi

[reef blade]

👍

MY 🇹🇼 🇺🇸

[hollow lion]

This server is English-only

[crimson tartan]

wdym roast each other

😟

[fresh cedar]

Thought it was gonna have new formables and flavor for the Czechs 🤧

[mighty stone]

hell yeah they're fixing navy

finally Paradox is making good moves

[robust grail]

Yes, If you want a better naval experience, there is Vanilla Navy Rework.
It adjust the tech tree, doctrine and tweaking combat. But the AI is much better, also you can also have AI with strong design.

[bold lichen]

mid update

[strong raptor]

How didffrwnt is the tech tree and the other stuff ?

Different *

[crimson tartan]

bye👍

[keen totem]

sounds awesome

[robust grail]

to be honest, in term of mechanic, it doesn't different, it just have very different meta.

[craggy hornet]

im looking through the patches for open beta and their is optimisation for mid-late game?

[dense needle]

Guys did waking the tiger get updated

[whole arch]

Why would it be?

[weary sorrel]

That was like a long time ago. Now it's integrated into the base game

[dense needle]

Ik about that I was asking if it got updated cuz there was some parts that the new dlc had

[keen totem]

what new parts?

the dlc itself did not get updated

it's apart of the base game now

if something got updated, treat it as an update to the base game, not the DLC

[last pasture]

u talkin about man the guns?

[hollow coral]

Marijin im ready when you are

[ruby stag]

what is japan doing in france bruh

[fresh cedar]

Ready for new formables and tags?

[hollow coral]

alt his shenanigans

[dim linden]

Chillin

[red mesa]

how do i fix this ?? i cant create any armies

[verbal wave]

you added a mod?

[red mesa]

kaiserreich, but this happens in vanilla too

[verbal wave]

ive only had that happen to me when i added a mod while mid playthrough

[red mesa]

i didnt add a mod mid playthrough

[reef blade]

Looking for a group to play with. Is there a room/server I can join?

[icy ocean]

genuinelly

wtf is wrong with my production

[unborn dagger]

add more factories?

[icy ocean]

yhhh

[unborn dagger]

cause only 15 factories on all of that?

that isn't enough

you can change the view on how many factories

you can place 150 mil factories on one production line

[drowsy umbra]

Assign Mios

[icy ocean]

yh

thank u

[dim linden]

No MIOs?

Oh I’m an hour late I didn’t scroll down

[remote wolf]

any1 balkan

[weary sorrel]

<@&846894118219022336>

[brisk patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p5K_QUTy2_k

..?

[fresh cedar]

Thunder at our gates teaser

[crimson tartan]

knock knock

[blazing lantern]

best path for any country with dlcs?

[fresh cedar]

What do you define as best?

[fresh cedar]

Few good ones:

• Fascist UK, Eat puppets in civil war, form empire, form Europe.
• German Reich
• German Empire
• Stalinist USSR
• Little Entente Czechs
• Monarchist Brazil

For more of a challenge;

• Spanish Empire/Carlist Spain
• Hashemite Iraq
• Byzantine Empire
• Papal Italy/Regnum Romanum
• PRC
• Communist Germany

[junior storm]

Right Opposition Soviets is quite strong if played correctly.

[distant fox]

Romanov Poland, MacArthur Philippines, empress Japan, kaiserin Victoria, nuclear ghandi

[pastel flume]

That's just secret paths at that point

[pastel flume]

Commie Brazil is nice cause you can core entire south America via a 35 day focus without any requirements to own the entire continent. Managed to get USA to invade those countries and since we are the same side the states controlled are transferred to me. 😂

[hollow coral]

Can we just get the australia dev diarys

🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺

[glossy inlet]

TRAVELLING IN A FRIED-OUT KOMBI ON A HIPPIE TRAIL, HEAD FULL OF ZOMBI 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[hollow coral]

my man

[lucid rain]

So no one addresses that field marshal bug with the warlords

which saddens me lol

[peak flame]

That's literally the song I start every working day with 🇦🇺

[hollow coral]

mordred where are the emu cavalry units?

[red parcel]

vhen i time travel to ww2 to get some axuzz (axis powe huzz) but i spawn into the middle of a battle but fine german shi is watching so I aurafarm by taking a nade from a soldier and trying to triple kill the enemies but i brick ts entirely and explodemax myself

[crimson tartan]

where is

where is mah devdiary

[fresh cedar]

Watch it be Thursday

[crimson tartan]

my head feels reaaaaly bad please sir can we have a devdiary today so it will be the last thing i saw before death 😭

[crimson tartan]

nonono

[cosmic stag]

i hope the next major dlc expansion will add a infantry equipment designer

[fresh cedar]

Watch it get delayed a week

[cosmic stag]

what about this idea?

[crimson tartan]

i don't think there is much things you can do with infantry designer

[cosmic stag]

wdym

[crimson tartan]

with tank designer you can make light/meadium/heavy tanks, spa/spaa/spat etc

with plane designer you can make different types of planes etc

with infantry designer
uuuh what

[cosmic stag]

alr

[safe trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mahNT2jZ7g

[cosmic stag]

yes

Im hyped

[crimson tartan]

YO WHAT

[fresh cedar]

Division designer rework??? Regimental support?

[cosmic stag]

yes

thats good

[safe trail]

yes a good dev diary

[fresh cedar]

Was more of an announcement than a diary tho

Jk there’s also an Australia one

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/developer-diary-australia-until-the-tide-of-battle-swings.1920578/

[cosmic falcon]

TOAG comes out three days before my birthday.

[crimson tartan]

who the hell put that pegi icon on the middle of art

[coral drift]

Tan Malaka is ready to rumbling through Southwest Pacific wahooo!!!!

[hollow coral]

Thank you paradox interactive

For releasing the newest dlc thunder at our gates

During my exams

[crimson tartan]

why this looks so badass

[autumn breach]

another slop dlc for countries youll never play is getting released for 30 bucks