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I honestly like it more than Austria or Hungary
Like, I would be disappointed, but hoping that at least the Czech content would be solid
It is solid
I feel like focus trees work as single dlcs rather than bundled as well, especially if the dlc isnt adding any mechanics
I enjoy it more than any tree since GDR
Also the ones who get over the line to preorder because of the Slovaks can reconsider their choice
gives people more freedom to pick and choose what they want
Yes, it is solid, no doubt on that
Who is preordering solely for Slovakia from a Czechoslovakia dlc 😭
What would Slovak content actually be, like I feel it’d just be a watered down version of just playing Czechoslovakia
Idk, from 8 billion ppl on Earth, there would be ppl who almost did not bought the expansion pass despite NCNS and TaoG, but ended up buying it because of Slovakian contents (And of course would be disappointed now)
At least historical contents
Slovakia would basically be a weak factory state for Germany
I guess, but a historical game would just be collaborating with the Germans, doing nothing, then dying
Even United Baltic puppet is more impactful
Which you can like already do as the reichskommissariat bohemia
As it is historically happened in WW2
People are really cheesing over what would effectively be an insignificant country
I don’t get it
It’s like if NCNS mentioned Taiwan and people are mad it didn’t get a tree
"including Nationalists' retreat to Taiwan"? Well, there is a secret branch for that, and i think it still counts
As Taiwan is RoC
I mean Taiwan not ROC
No, in game they’re 2 separate entities
Like when Japan goes into civil war and taiwan becomes independent
Exactly
Well, the devs did not said that there would be Governorate of Taiwan contents
Neither did they say there would be Slovakian
NCNS would of been saved if it had Palau focus tree 😔
All the way from September until January, and Alfredo already owned the mistake
“Pursueing independence” doesn’t mean a focus tree.
Then state it openly on the forums and Reddit before NCNS is released
5 months late smh
And listed under democratic focuses for czechoslovakia so I just assume it was very poorly written
Yes, he admitted that in the forums
He admitted that early on in development Slovakia was cut yeah
I just can’t see how Slovakia would’ve been fun to play
But mistakenly not removed the description until January, and not told the forums openly until a week ago
Again, bad communication
And they admitted it
Like the thing was always advertised as a one focus tree dlc and if slovakia was actually advertised as getting a tree itd be a whole seperate part of the dlc page, not hidden under democratic focuses
Which their admittance is enough for me to move on from it
Like seriously, the commotion would not be this big if they just convey it ASAP
This is my logic. It was always always primarily focused on Czechoslovakia. Any other content would’ve been extra
I never even realized people thought Slovakia was gonna get a focus tree until right before the DLC released
Same
Well, thanks for the poor wording some ppl think otherwise
I love the existing content itself, but please do a better communication
It’s as if I bought a USA dlc and was super mad Hawaii didn’t get a focus tree bc it mentions Hawaii 😂
“Build up the pacific fleet on Hawaii” 😡🤬😤 NO HAWAII TREE
If it worded like "pursuing independence as Slovakia", then yes ppl would think like that.
But if just "defend Hawaii from the Japanese" in the democratic path's description, ppl would think the other way
I disagree. HOI4 community can be very entitled and jump to conclusions off a grain of rice
"on Hawaii" vs "as Slovakia"
See the difference?
I’m not disputing the developers should’ve said that ASAP and corrected sooner. But to review bomb an otherwise good DLC is pathetic
It’s like blaming the modders/content creators for the actions of a marketing/PR team
Awwee
Well, at least they blamed the studio as a whole
Albeit the devs should nudging the marketing team to notify the public ASAP if there is any changes in content before release
Not content designer's job to notify the public, but at least they can nudge the marketing/PR team
Hello! what is your opinions on the new czechoslovak dlc?
Good Czech historical contents
Decent amount of content, but I don't like the focus tree at all
This is assuming they didn’t. Paradox is very aware of the production status of their content.
it’s pretty good
Good tree, enjoy it more than Austria or Hungary.
At least there should be announcement on January when they rectify the desc
Or when they decided to cut the Slovak focus tree
Would you lot suggest picking it up?
If you want to play Czechslovakia
Yes, if you wanted to play historical until 1939 or go ahistorical
Yeah, for the price it’s fun. It’s very fun beyond historical content too.
It’s about the cost of a cheap meal or drink. But can give 10-20 hours of enjoyment. Worth imo
I wish it's that cheap in Indonesia
i’m glad they didnt overprice especially considering how much ncns cost
Awesome!
Yeah... ncns seems quite overpriced
Wouldn’t it be cheaper for you since cost of living is higher here?
i was wondering what makes NCNS overrpriced compared to gotterdamerung
Nope, 70k is not worth the current investment considering my own economic situation
Personally i dont know much about NCNS i know it changes up china and modernises the focus trees for japan and china
Maybe if i'm richer
Thats kinda it, the focuses arent bad but not worth the price they want you to pay
1/4 of Americans' purchasing power, but the price is only 2/3 of America's
$6 = 103k rph
Yes but cost of living is WAYYY higher here
Again, the cost is 2/3, so Rp 70k.
But personally not worth it for me at this time. Maybe if it's using 2021's pricing I would buy it
Indonesia is 60% cheaper to live in
75% in my place (Central Java)
I see.. I hear Graveyard of empires is dreadful, and i have no idea about trial of allegiance... Are these two just overpriced? or are they just not fun? I've heard Trial of alleigance is quite chaotic
Not according to statistics online 😭
Trial of Allegiance is very fun. Don’t listen to the hate
For Jakartans, it would be more affordable
3/10 on release
6.5/10 now
trial of allegiance goes like half price on sales so if youre interested maybe pick it up then
it was
not so much now
its just iran thats dreadful now😃
graveyard of empires has a good india tree and sucks everywhere else
Graveyard is more fun than it was. It is true
Nah Iraq is a fun challenge
The joke is that the Americans sees Jakarta/Bali as cheaper to live in, but Jakartans would see Yogyakarta or Semarang cheaper to live in
Iraq is ehhh i didnt mind it its just not somewhere youd ever play
Afghanistan is just boring as hell
Forming Arabia is fun imo. Plus Hashemite path has really cool end goals like conquering Spain
the only gripes about afghanistan is that the civil wars are hell
how i am lossing
CAS probably
cant realy tell anything form the image
Armor and CAS is brutal early game
maybe army preperation is low
Same happened to me with max equip and prep
very true germany can just easily steamroll
CAS is still king
the communist path for czechoslovakia is honestly fun as
Legit if you don’t Little Entente if Ger Reich exists. It’s very hard
it looks small but you get a lot of focuses
Monarchist is only super playable on ahistorical unless you want a super hard fight
havent tried monarchist it just seems lackluster
I love playing on ahistorical
I prefer Little Entente. Think Monarchist would be cool if HRE
hre and more monarchs would be better
Kingdom of Bohemia should be the main country forming HRE
you cant form hre as bohemia?!
That is stupid
hre or west slavic kingdom would be good end goals
Pretty much every tree only forms Austro Hungarian empire with some extra cores
This is what I’ve been saying
i see
Is it still only austria and germany that can form the HRE? or am i missing one
Marjin keeps saying it’s unrealistic to have a panslavic formable or HRE one 😅
Both
Lichtenstein Austria, Empire Germany
interestingly enough the monarch was associated with a fascist party
they probably couldve expanded on that
IMO the military Junta path is the worst Czech path
but they chose a generic expansionist path
its like 6 focuses
pretty bad
Takes too long to start to be useful. Germany most of the time still invades. No end goals
Austro-Hungary should be limited to Austria or Hungary. And maybe Military Jumta Czech
But to have it be the only real formable for Czech is lame
Cool flag and leader that’s about it
CEF should be used more
Better than BUF
What are these acronyms, sorry
I just don’t know them
yeah i was confused too
CEF: Central European Federation
BUF: Balkan United Federation (or smth like that)
I just realized that i mistakenly wrote the Balkan formable's name
I agree with CEF. Marjin did argue he thinks United Balkans is overused which I was like fair
Though Austro Hungary is too 😅
I proposed this
dont you get that buf tag when you integrate a blakan country
Yeah, CEF is a breath of fresh air
Same as West Slavic Federation
The Polish-Czechoslovak monarchist path should also be able to get this cosmetic tag too
Yup
(the Polish one, not Czech)
At least we're on the same wavelength for a more plausible contents
which one is that exactly?
I just like end goals too
Like what’s the point of getting strong and taking a lot of it leads to nothing
I forgot, AFK right now
Maybe the Habsburg one
the peace for our time capstone just seems like a meme
can kralovec please be added
Would be a fun easter egg event when it reaches 80% compliance
That way ppl would not notice it straight away
Like the buffs from it?
Anybody developed a successful game plan for a democratic Czechoslovakia?
I keep hitting my head against the wall, strong enough to hold, not strong enough to kill, I think I just need to give up on trying to min max my future core territory on historical mode I guess
On historical or ahistorical
Bc if you rush Little Entente you good in either
Oh, I’ve specifically been trying to have my cake and eat it too, specifically tried multiple times to get the poles to accept a federation
Unfortunately Poland usually refuses to join it seems
Hey @peak flame
You have some mistakes in your new Czechoslovakia DLC. First or all Masaryk was called Tatíček - not Tatínek. Czechoslovakia should start with conscription as this was common throughout the entire existence of the republic. The government party should be called Pětka as it was 5 parties.
If you are interested I can give you more tips as I play along.
Please dont ping devs
The Tatíček thing will be corrected soon
They actually love being pinged don’t be fooled
Especially Mordred
Sorry. I'm just too passionate about history 😄
oh boy
Wdym was 5 parties btw?
sociální demokracie
národní demokraté
lidovci
agrárníci
národní socialisté
5 parties that worked together to ensure that the fascists and communists wouldn't get to power. Because the last elections the fascists actually won thanks to Sudetes
Not using the exact names of the parties here though
These are the last election in Czechoslovakia
RSZML - the agrarian party - the most popular party in the country for many years (center-right)
SdP - fascist party, popular in Sudetes, wanted to join Germany (far-right)
ČSDSD - social democrats (left-wing)
KSČ - commies
ČSNS - national socialists (left-wing)
ČSL - christian democrats (center-right)
Autonomistický blok - Slovakian party that wanted to break from Czechoslovakia and have their own Slovakian state, fascists ideology (far right)
NSj - conservative (right)
ČŽOSS - liberal pro business party (center right, liberal)
Why is the Czech focus tree repeating the same design flaw that the Polish tree has made? The "Feeding the alligator" focus doesn't have relative focus position, just like the Polish focus "German military staff". I'm concerned about the additional added offsets that have to adjust to the changes and have to be tested as well.
Mayhap there is a clear advantage to use this method, but I see it as incorporating the placeholder as approved design choice. Do those things get accidentally overlooked when finalising the tree?
Its a focus shared between two branches that have many instances of branch hiding, so it ends up being about as convenient like this
But it would still be better to have some anchor point for the whole political focus as a category, than letting those entities be independent of each other. :(
It does have anchors but that focus could become connected to hidden focuses
Alright, thanks for the insight, Marijn.
Hey Marjin, which focus grants the player the ability to get rid of army readiness? I know a decision within the balance of power for 150 pp becomes available but which focus enables that?
Doesnt need a focus
It just appears eventually?
Seems to kinda appear randomly for me. Like I’ll be fully prepared for years then it finally becomes available
What allows that to appear?
its always there
Always???
I’d have to double check because in my 3 gams it appears later
Oh which checks?
High BoP, 25 mils, 25 civ, major or in faction with a major, all major debuff ideas removed, 425k manpower and 200 fighters in the field
Its not as bad as it sounds
I’ve gotten it twice now around then just didn’t realize that’s what it took
Honestly I'm not a fan of the Czech tree, neither from a layout nor from a design point of view.
Can you elaborate?
Layout wise, I'm not a fan of how damn wide it is, even after the collapse of alternative trees, also I find some of the dependencies in areas with 3+ mutually exclusive choices unclear.
Plus the spacing and alignment of the focuses is inconsistent in various places and I find the general "glance view" of the tree unappealing (mostly due to lack of even rough symmetry within the various branches)
Design-wise, I found it hard to approach, mostly because it has way too many "vertical" lanes causing a level of decision paralysis, with many resulting in small "island" focuses that don't lead anywhere, plus often multiple "middle lane" offshoots across mutually exclusive paths.
Also in various places thematically similar focuses are split in completely separate areas of the tree which I find a bit annoying.
Those all sound like side effects of the content we chose to implement, that we can't and couldn't have changed, to make the tree less wide would mean less player choices which is a major thing we wanted
And while initial decision paralysis is a fair concern that was also raised during development, almost all focuses are very straightforward and easy to compare to each other for value
It's more on how it has been implemented regarding focus dependencies and placement tbh
The political paths can almost only be done one way because there's shared focuses, mutually exclusive focuses, etc.
FIGHTERS?
Mhm
thats so bad :(
Cold war?
Never a cold war setting for HOI4
The engine just wasn't designed for the conflicts inherent in that setting
But we love allohistorical references
I believe Red Germany can also form the Stasi as their intelligence agency
yea they can and the hoi4 engine just genuinely is dying in 1955
hoi5 🤑
I mean 200 is not very many
You start with a fair with as CZE
you just need to keep your starting factory on fighters on that for like...1 game year at most I think, which is a good thing to get used to if like me you immediately trash most production lines at game start
what’s the Czech starting fighter
fighter 1 or 2?
Probably 1
is it worth keeping around even without the spirit removal
probably not, I think division AA is probably enough
I havent noticed fort damage from air getting too bad
or I mean you can change it to better ones or cas later which is nice, keep the efficiency
probably is
AA is so good against AI
id trash the plane line it sucks
Anyone else feel like none of the decisions sent out as Czechia get accepted? Like I understand it won't always happen. But even with Political Pressure from spies and increasing opinion the decisions never get accepted.
yeah sort of
the only one i have a bit of luck with is the puppeting hungary decision
monarchist/fascist branch
the demand regime change for communist czechoslovakia is kind of busted
I dont think any of them denied it
except the ones in a faction
What’s the current update?
What would you do differently to make it better in your eyes?
I've played full length games Slovakia from the 39 start date, (I'm a sucker for minor nations). Something trivial for the HSĽS and the SNR in the same vein as Aussa or Paraguay would of been neat, considering the country is called Czecho__slovakia__ but idgaf that much.
I should just toss it together myself when I finish up my current projects so me and the four other Slovak enjoyers can play a larp march on the gates of the kremlin.
Ball knows ball
nice balls
Reducing the amount of horizontal branching / vertical lanes / isolated focus groups by adding some dependencies and moving things around for sure
Didnt order a yappochino
1.18 i guess
toag will be 1.19
aaaaand i hope 10th anniversary will be 1.20
but no
I wonder if they're gonna add those dynamic airfields and stuff soon and also make planes useful for the atlantic to hunt U boats
You know
If it was brought up at Switzerland or Turkey (as I know their laws of obligations)
Court would see it as misconception from side of the paradox (applies to people who pre-ordered it btw)
But this only gives them the chance to cancel the agreement
Not literally changing one of the most important phrases about the debt lmao
So as of now, from the Swiss and Turkish law (I am pretty sure EU countries also include as our laws of Obligations was taken by Rome)
this dlc is a defective product
Us as creditors have 2 choices
Either we accept the debt paid to us by Paradox
or we sue
because mods are good and paradox are bad
1.18 Case Green
So basically what already happens when you isolate into a focus ideology. Got it
And how much effort it takes to that point?
Devs did not have much time
I personally really like how the tree looks
I myself developed EIR for 3 years and i'm not even halfway done with the reworks for PKI and Parindra paths, and the Indies Gunseikan path is still just a concept of a plan beyond a skeleton content
Eh wait, we're past April 21st
So 4 years
Czech layout is fine. Only tree currently that has a gross layout is India.
But if the argument is to add more symmetry to the Czech tree then nah. Would look terrible
No, not really
Is this what you’d want?
Not necessarily the content but the layout.
A bit hard to tell with how densely packed it is, it looks to have slightly less side branching but not by much
Can you show what you mean visually? Because it sounds like you’d be trading width for length which would isolate decisions even more
side effect from having the most focuses in game
they couldve structured it like congo tbh
PRC focus tree to cite a recent example, there the side branches are more limited and feel more like "optional things"
Or done anything IG
Also a lot less "V" links between different branches
India is still fun but the tree is insane
definitely
So more optional decisions, I understand that criticism. Though PRC sometimes feels like you have no decisions based off the content
PDX needs to readd the MP unit as a Combat battalion unit again
i mean the MILITARY POLICE
Military Policy line infantry? Huh
yes
no, that's not the core of my issue with the tree, sorry but it's a bit hard to explain
All good, I personally don’t see many issues with the Czechs. Yes it may force decisions or even force you to choose and jump around. But I imagine the Czechs were a bit frantic as Germany was looming around nearby for an invasion. Almost captures that energy
why is the MP combat battalion no longer a combat unit?
Is this to supplement occupation or combat?
both half and half
I'd rather have SH tanks back as a frontline unit
Bc I’d argue motorcycles are kinda the occupation equivalent
This or more support slots
what wdym
Paradox keeps adding diff support companies but we kind of don’t have enough slots anymore
I often don’t choose SH arty or SH tanks anymore as I just prefer other support
super heavy tanks and variants were changed to support companies only some time ago IIRC
Sure, I can do it as well, it's rather simple
But I'd like for that to be in vanilla
I personally think MP support makes sense in its current state
They aren’t generally units you’d be sending to combat as their purpose is effectively to police their own men
better than the current state of armored cars at least 😛
unit designed to do only one thing and straight out bad at it
also creating a focus tree for alternative world is much easier than creating a historical focus tree 🙂
there is much more freedom
They do go pretty fast and cheaply. Tbh think they should go faster than any light could though
They have terrible stats and are useless in combat. Yhey were introduced as an armored garrison unit, but even there light tanks are straight better at it, hell even mediums are better.
Even more funny, if you research the later version they become worse at their job...
I interpreted them as being early game units but to be phased out for armor. But they don’t even do that well
Think they’d work better as support company replacements for motorized things
Just to add armor
But tbh mechanized should really fill that role
yhey would sowk better as a specific role you could give to wheeled like tanks
tbh that should be the case for mechanized as well, but for cars it;s particularly egregious since they directly compete with them
Think the armored car recon is a pretty good use of them
Beyond that, maybe Armored car AT?
Then obviously just MP
For them to be visible as line units I’d want more speed, and less supply usage. Just so they can operate easier
hello
there is the mod called: BM Extended units
which does Readd the MP unit
its just simply called titled: POLICE
with the Original MP icon
Nice
Wow they really let you customize a lot of:0
yes
there is also a Air assault battalion
Do wish the base game had stuff like this. Or maybe even just being able to change recon company to specialize in specific conditions like jungle, cold etc
Am I the only one who’s disappointed that Heydrich can’t become the protector of Bohemia and Moravia and that you cant have him assassinated through Operation Anthropoid?
As it happened in real life
it is unbearable 😭
there's no doubt that it's a misconception
but misconception only gives you the right to cancel the agreement
bruh
<@&846894118219022336>
scammer
Ty for your ping
np
wishful thinking 🥀
Not wishful, this is basically misconception on the topic of the debt.
We're thinking about adding it
Motorized MP has been removed from the latest version of the game?
I think I watched like every episode when I was younger
And I think it had movies?
tbh the thing missing from this dlc is that you arent able to play after being annexed unless you specifically go down the submission path
i really wished that we could play after being annexed
basically how when denmark falls they still get to play and get to work through their own tree
playing as the protectorate
👍
I used to sit up and watch the first 2 seasons with my grandfather a fair bit. I also lived on a small farm no mossy bottom but I had a pet sheep for a bit aswell one of the main reasons i won't eat lamb.
I live on a farm with like 60-70 sheep
I have seen them go from like an hour old to a few years for some of them
(I eat them when they are grown)
we need more GOOD SPs
Since we are raising food sheep
tbh bro i think they have moved on from the warlords
but yeah the personaly leadership needs to be fixed
they did add a few Greek focuses sporadically
especially with GTD
not like a full focus path
youre in hollow's server? crazy
cant miss any of his videos
lol Czechoslovakia can get unlimited free generals
time to force attack stack to infinity
Nice, that’d be great. May I ask why it is that when you accept the German occupation, the game ends for you and you can’t continue playing as the Protectorate? It feels like a huge shame, since the tag and focus tree disappear from the game until they are liberated after the war. You should consider allowing players to continue playing as the Protectorate after accepting the occupation, with the Protectorate focus tree unlocking since it’s already been created. From there, players could choose to go into exile after the war breaks out or remain loyal.
what?
they have a decision in the BoP that gives -50% army leader cost
and you can pick the army spirit for another -50% cost
resulting in 0 cp cost for generals
Hello Vistula
🤔 Interesting...
So I was curious, why was a Slovak focus tree never made in the end? Also I noticed that the 1939 start date B-M could core the states if you could manage to get enough compliance.
it is a fascist spirit, democratic and communist don't get access to the spirit tho, not sure if non aligned does
We were given plenty of time to finish things, but Slovakia might have turned that plenty of time into light rushing which would've impacted the degree of polish on CZE
Again, it was cut early on, the store page edit was only a correction to unfortunate wording
Also, would you consider adding a Slovak focus tree in a later update (if the contract allows that)? I think that would be great if you did have a concept of the scrapped Slovak content.
We dont know if thats feasible this late
Hey in a world where software is shipped and patched later, it could be done. Just look at GoE lmao.
GoE was simply quite buggy
was there at least a concept of the Slovak focus tree if you are allowed to talk about that?
There wasn't much
Oh, makes sense if it was scrapped all together in the end. Honestly most of the time I just give Slovakia to Hungary when playing as Germany
You could also make Hácha the leader of the Protectorate, with some sort of “puppet president” trait, as was historically the case. The German Protector (Neurath or Heydrich) could be represented as a national spirit or as an advisor you can’t fire.
We were thinking of a national spirit so its visible if he's removed, the idea isnt definitive though
Is HRE or the Pan Slavic Congress feasible as formables? 🤧 Would go from a good tree to top 5 imo
Favorite of those two?
HRE especially with monarchy. Would differentiate it from Austria or Hungary. Though for democratic/communist panslavic would probably make it one of the most unique formables
But since most play monarchist, HRE
- HRE
- Pan Slavic Union
If Pan Slavic was added. Wouldn’t it be easier to do HRE later since it’s already a formable?
Adding the formables is quite easy I just want a somewhat good buildup to them
Normally they’re enabled from a capstone to a tree right?
Currently Austro-Hungary kinda just perma enabled with no build up really
Thematically feel like the others almost would make more sense
If like Monarchist final focus enabled HRE reforming. Or one of the Dem/Com equivalent did pan-Slavic
Especially little entente would kinda build towards the Slavic one since you ally many of them anyways
Once your contract expires could you show us the concept content if any please?
What I can and cant show doesnt change when my contract ends
oh okay
apologies if I was asking a lot but I was wondering what the process behind the DLC
I could show some concept drawing we did for Skoda if anyone would find that cool
sure go ahead
depends on local laws, some limit NDA maximum terms
Still, unlikely to be relevant for years 😛
Reason for me to be a vampire /s
😂 what I draw vs what Abbus makes for reference
@hollow lion out of curiosity, before being contracted out by PDX directly, did you ever have any success in having some modding-related game mechanics clarified by a developer?
Usually if I had questions other modders would know
Generally the case, but has no such lack with a set of questions I posted around.
Nah, first concept of the Skoda GUI is peak:
I was actually wanting to ask you if I could post that 😭
xD
it is peak
We could make a small post about the evolution of that GUI. Kind of interesting journey that took interface wise.
I collected most the images 😛
Cool how you guys expanded upon it too
I don't have the Czech dlc but isn't this supposed to be like the MIO but better?
Basically flexible industrial company
eh I could see why it's scrapped since MIOs exist in the game.
There is no need for a second MIO system
The last version is in-game 😄
wait what? i don't own the new czech dlc sorry
Its in the trailer~
oh was it added in the final version of the game? Again I don't have the dlc to check lmao
😛
a small request, could the symbol for optimization tier be something different? because rn it looks like production efficiency cap symbol, and when hovering over focuses, its a bit confusing at first glance, thinking the focus gives efficiency cap when it doesn't
everybody else is on this version too right
wait
whats the main version everybody pays on
plays on
version case green?
is this official patch name
also why there is no credits for pfot
they also cleared changelog.txt 😭
feel like Radola Gajda's fascist path would work better for pan-slavist formable honestly
How so?
i mean to me that path feels the most bare in terms of formables
Can do Austro-Hungarian.
Which is sorta logical for fascist bc their immediate expansion route would be Austria, Hungary and the Balkans
yeah but if it's available to all paths it doesnt feel too special
oh also this
My argument was that they’d be the only real path that had Austro Hungary. Meanwhile monarchist would be HRE.
But yeah I’d rather them all get pan Slav instead of Austro Hungarian
does it really make sense for fascist to have Austria Hungary tho
aa cores
it really doesnt
unless it'd be under a different name
yeah for sure it needs a different name
pan-slavist path makes most sense to me under the fascist path if anything
Would’ve rather it been that European confederation the democracy gets
i think even under the other paths they should get different names
its kinda silly how all my Czechoslovakia runs end with me being called Austria Hungary with that ugly white
like how forming the Empire of China as Kumul or the Ma Cliques give a different cosmetic version of the formable
Yeah I know 😭
given Gajda's party ideology was strongly anti-german and pan-slavist i feel pan-slavism for that path makes most sense
Sounds like we’ll only get one formable sadly. But tbh would rather they all get Pan Slav instead of just Monarchy with HRE
Though flavor between them would be ideal
I think that's the name of the planned German invasion of Czechoslovakia
Since Case White is Poland, Case Yellow is Benelux, and Case Red is France
yeah i know
i mean what's the patch name
they usually call it 1 word
i don't like it 🤮 👎
But you're right most of them are one word
except stella polaris and red ball express
aaaaand most of them were not related to the content added with accompanying patch
Red ball express?
1.1
I'm imagining the flash game
Ah
is this the new update
alright I got most of the basic stuff out the way for my slovakian focus tree, if anyone wants to send some idea's feel free
Played the crocodile path where you become a German puppet. We managed to beat the Cominterm and Allies. Was actually pretty fun
I imagine the historical path as Slovakia is that but worse
interesting
Life = ruined
Recon are you italian?
he's right this game will ruin your life
Js tell me why
it’s one of those games where people who have 2k hours in it will downvote it on steam and say they hate it and then get 2k more hours in it after that
Iii meean
Still
The game is fun
I enjoy history
it’s fun but it will make you catastrophically mad but you won’t be able to stop playing it
You dont know me
I play games that require people
To gamble
For better powers
And ive played it for a LOT
like since 2019
I also play rise of nations on roblox and its the same thing like you said
Ok, i thought you were a person i already knew
Alsi
Also
You hage
Have
The most italian name known to man
You can uninstall HoI4 from the PC, but you can't uninstall HoI4 from your heart
I play a lot of games like thst
That
Trust me i know the feeling
Try the Pax Britannica mod
Whats that
Does it give performance?
Like good performance?
A mod
No, for performance install the "FPS map" mod
Does it give a lot of fps
Well yeah, because increase performance
Bet ima do homework then try it
How old are you?
14 i turn 15 in july
I cannot interfere with your gameplay (it's a canon event)
You'll see 6 years from now
how does that relate
ew
One man with a gun can control 100 with no guns.
-Vladimir Lenin
The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never be certain of their authenticity
- Joseph Stalin 🥀
i remember this
Most typical ah 14 year old on the internet
why does japan have absolutely insane army buffs
they are somehow getting supply out of thin air
14 year olds when they want to be political so they choose one of two extremes (communism or fascism) based on vibes only
I know someone like that. They just have whatever belief they think looks the best (resulting in a weird hodgepodge of beliefs)
Do they happen to be a German or Soviet main in War Thunder and a German/Soviet main in hoi4
No
They just go into the weird depths of instagram reels from what I can tell
Ahh yeah, that explains a lot
what about the other 2 extremes
anarchist and accelerationism Ig
No 14 year old chooses those
14 year olds are sheep and are only drawn to authority
AI doesnt follow the same rules
Paradox denies it but
ai doesnt have supply or attrition
ok good cuz i thought i was a schizo when i took over the only 2 supply hubs in like a 200 mile area around them and they still took like 2 weeks to get to low supply (not even very low just low)
the 1 infrastructure scorching hot jungles of guangxi and north vietnam cannot possible be giving them that much food and ammunition especially because the ai was using pretty beefy divisions (like 13-15k manpower) compared to my well fed french troops who had a myriad of supply options
and there's literally no reason to go for either
they both suck and if people somehow disagree then you're delusional
Eh, i've been there
He'll warm up to Left-Nationalism by 18
Mhm
But once you learn real history you'll appreciate the intellectuals
Those goes hard, not going to lie
But I wished for the same edits for Cipto Mangunkusumo in Indonesian Tiktok/Instagram lel
Or even if you're wanted natcons, make edits for Nasution, Thamrin or Supomo, not Hitler or Pinochet darn it 😭
My political beliefs depend entirely on who has the best flag and country name in HOI4 for that broad category of ideology
I call this ideology Astheticism
No its just that i live in socialism rn
And my dad through communism
I'm influenced by it
Bro you're 14, go play Roblox and worry about homework or smth not about politics
stop talking about politics
Bro
communism is trash
School is like
Almost done
For me
I don't need to think about it
And i already play roblox but i still like politics
(copium from people who don't understand how the game works)
As i said, canon event
did they have a port?
This is the second phase
well, eh
ai does more often see weird hoi4 interactions/behaviour
they dont use different rules but can experience weirdness way more commonly
and also they use small divs so like their attrition is less common due to that
you just destroyed your entire point bruhhhh 🤣
i thought there is rule that says Avoid discussing real-life religion, politics, or controversial topics.
seems these rules are not for ya boys 🙂 👍
in 98% of cases its just players not understanding how the game works
and i also don't think its really just ai experiencing that, but players not noticing when they do, because why would they complain if the game works in their favor
They were just talking about their favorite cupcake recipes
Which coincidently looked like politics
oh ok sorry then my bad 
Yeah I mentioned something the other day that was completely relevant to the newest update. It gets instantly deleted. Yet these guys can talk about it for hours
why so toxic bruh 😭 ✌️
That isnt toxic, just bantering lmao.
i didn't know such a word 🙂
i will use it now
thank you very much (sorry for my english)
they dont usually use the advertisement arts
Or whatever they are called
they have not used adv arts as loading screens since nsb
but before nsb all the loading screens were also adverstisement arts
🙂
I just wonder why, they had the art already? Not remotely a big deal or important though
you're on reddit of all places
something i really liked about this dlc, that its clear that a lot of thought was put into those playing it on alt hist, unlike most hoi4 dlcs
with focuses that apply to stuff like soviet civil war, france going monarchist, Yugoslavia dismantling, etc.
Yeah interacts with alt history world really well.
Genuinely enjoy this DLC more on alt history which I generally prefer Historical. So it’s nice
On historical kinda had to do little entente or get stomped
eh historical is still really easy
you can do central European federation or Austria Hungary
before Germany declares
who needs ai allies when you can instead have more cores
I like Entente bc it locks them out of other factions so you can easily kill Germany. Then once your major threats are gone you kick them out one by one and annex
But yeah can totally just invade too for Austro Hungary
And to be fair, Central European Federation is basically Austro Hungary
yooooooooo what
oh can we now ping arheo since he's not a dev anymore and just a big fan of hoi4? 🙂
🔫
Still a Paradox employee so no pinging
nahhh its lies I called up paradox told them he refused to add dynamic airfields and new air missions so they reassigned him to another front 💔
(please add dynamic airfields why is templehof airport in seelow heights gng)
East vs West remake??
wdym dynamic airfields
make them province-based?
this was not even pdx game i guess
it was outsourced, licenced etc and published by pdx, but it was another studio's game
Just a hater smh
guys please leave a comment or a like at least, took hours writing this https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/this-needs-adding-air-force-generals-dynamic-defence.1919158/
I liked it

i would expand on the dynamic airfields and say that states are a bad idea in general and everything should be province based and states should just be groups of provinces
e.g. factories and anti air should be province level
and then why we need states at all
just for organization i guess and so there isn’t any peace deal bs like taking only someone’s coastline provinces or only someone’s city provinces
They are 100% making hoi5
lol
Will it be buggy yes, will I complain on release ? Yes . Will I spend all my money yes !!!
No
Eu5 is amazing
HOI5 is gunna be the next game since it’s the one with the largest audience
people on reddit and pdx forum think no
Then they are losers
It’s such a peak game
I hope that HOI5 is same quality
why would paradox want to spend a ton of time and money making hoi5 when they can keep pumping out slop dlc's for the same price every 3 months
Agreed on airfields. And it would be nice to have a devastation mechanic like Stellaris. Think the current system of just stuff getting damaged but no real state impact is suboptimal
Yeah like u take a tile get meme enforced and vice versa but there’s somehow no state destruction makes no sense just makes HOI4 overall a tile stealing game like chess not actual war despite the other stuff
They build in whichever state you click on, per province
Tbh nuked states should lowkey change state type too 😂 Shouldn’t just be a regular city again in a year
I’m not sure if bridges need to exist at the scale of HOI4. While relevant, some states would have many bridges
u can larp as the germans
and destroy the rivers leading across the rhine
but bridges would be too much ngl
Basically just scorched earth
A mechanic I never use 😭
they have like 2 more years out of DLC for this
Think bridges aren’t for this scale is all I’m saying
they literally dont follow the same rules bro
theres no denying this
Play as like siam
or a africian country
or really any minor
Play as ethiopia and u will see for a fact
The ai doenst get supply issues and if they do it defaults to red supply and no attrition
beat china as Japan in a reasonable time and then I'll let you make any statement about how the game works
what
I beat china last week??
You know im right bro
in what year?
Late 37
you were claiming that it was impossible for awhile
so
you see how your mind changes
Because the ai cheats and they still do
In orderto beat china u need to just rush their vp with spam units
there are bugs
AI is still horrible either way
Everyone knows the ai cheats with supply and attrition, theirs no denying that
Its to make up for their terrible ai
its the player being bad
you can literally read the game files, you know
you can check that
The ai literally doesnt have attrition firsty
Theres no denying that
Secondly they default to red supply no orange
Is the submarine detection glitch fixed with the new update?
no the port was one of the 2 supply hubs i took over they literally had no access to supply in like a 200 mile radius
id appreciate a like or a comment on it though
Ukraine's Kruschëv desperately needs a portrait
why
Can’t be bothered to login to the forum, sorry
Why wouldn't it, we already have the portrait for Kruschëv, all they would have to do is add it to Ukraine
you want to change it
right
we will get achievements without ironman
YAAAAAAAY
I’d hate it if achievements went off Ironman only
ok ok let's keep it on secret
Would be a terrible change
why are we putting words that I've never said in my mouth here
we just wanted input regarding achievements lmao
ironman should be required for achievements but mods should not as easily make the game not count as Ironman
Think where achievements are now is fine. With Ironman compatible mods
maybe let the mod choose if it counts for ironman or not or idk
but there are many mods that should not make the game not ironman
but do now
Giving Kruschëv a portrait in Ukraine is far more important than any achievements
Nah
It absolutely is
Quite possibly one of the last changes that should ever be made if ever
Yeah but its also so effortless, there's no reason not to do it
are we being serious?
They basically pay for portraits
Yes i do not want to see generic leaders
When it comes to portraits id just do mods
The soviets already have a portrait, all that is to be done is giving it to Ukraine
Vanilla Portraits Pack
There's no reason paradox cant do it
you mean an advisor portrait>
It would cost them an employees time which is effectively money for content people can already get for free
advisor portraits are different arts from leader portraits
Oh didn’t even realize he meant advisor
Kruschëv already has a portrait for the advisor icon, it could be reused presumably
just because there is an advisor portrait does not mean it can be reused as a full one
the resolution does not match at all and would result in the blurriest and worst portrait one could make outside of an MSPaint drawing (which is arguably better than all portraits let's be real :p )
Different scale lil bro
i think he thought that advisor portraits were linked to full scale portraits
u should read the first reply on there btw
This
Advisor portrait is 44x70 (i forgot the width), and leader portrait is 153x210
Btw.... Love the new art
I really hope this is about them
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreri
Koreri, letterlijk de toestand waarin men de oude huid heeft afgeworpen, is een aanduiding van de paradijselijke staat of heilsstaat waarin de mens in de oertijd verkeerde, volgens de mythologie van de inwoners van Biak en Numfor in de Geelvinkbaai bij Nieuw-Guinea. In de oertijd waren de mensen op aarde en in het zielenland één, en bestond er...
no
you can't core anything
you just get a little of their civilian industry
Wild Arheo’s stepping down wasn’t really announced anywhere but the forum 😅
Looking forward to seeing what his next project is
hoi4.2 😔 🥀
never in the history of pdx
Take charge of the intelligence agency of your choice as the Cold War begins. Working from the shadows in this grand strategy game, you will influence the world using a variety of tools including agents, propaganda, proxy wars, assassinations, and coups. As an Iron Curtain descends across Europe, the era of the espiocrat begins.…
2026
Probably costs money so I can’t afford it
whoomp whoomp
My wallet belongs to paradox
Do we know if we now have the option to choose our background image yet, at the HOI in game start menu? You know the image changes with each major update, that image?
ive had this in my wishlist for a good while
cant wait for whenever it'll release
looks cool
i remember seeing this game announced in something like 2022
they said they gonna release it next year
hope it's true ❤️
Man, Arheo stepping down is sad though. He steered the ship for 5 years atleast
he's going to steer another, new ship!
you are saying like he's dying or something
Generally people leaving a project and going to something else is a pretty bittersweet moment. Especially since he’s effectively been a driving force in a game I’ve enjoyed for 5 years by his part.
me too
2023 i think i saw it
it looks really cool though
😢 I've forwarded it to the community team
Crazy it’s been up for days
Holy halalball
Wrong chat?
No
@fresh cedar
Crazy new scam just dropped <@&846894118219022336> (in every channel)
The latest dlc drop may have broken greece facist path
HOI4 game when germany invades poland without putting troops on the french border
Man, no new formables. 😔
i assume they probably take a little longer to think through and implement
surely next patch
Huh?
I mean, using CEF more often would be nice
<@&846894118219022336>
This is a nice change. Though end game for Bohemia really should be HRE
Absolutely
Bruh the formable already exists too. 😔
Hre formable and make the fascist path more unique
Like I get not doing the pan Slavic one as that would involve work.
thats basically all they need to make it a good dlc
Extremely disappointed tbh. Formables are a big part of why I even play the game. Like I’d buy a dedicated dlc just for them
Legit
Maybe shortening some industry focuses but thats pretty much it
Agree with you, but i think just use the existing ones
in dms?
Why in Latest update though
still no Zapadoslavia formable for Czechoslovakia? Damn
Are you talking to me?
Yes, why reporting it here?
i think they meant for the polish czechoslovak union to be that formable
Yeah it’s why I quoted you. This isn’t the channel for such things
Its just really convoluted to achieve
New update came out. Not trying to talk about Roblox terrorism
Because he was on an audio channel promoting
In this server
general
I figured so as well, but, tbh, I‘d rather have it named Zapadoslavia
Im just warning you
but better than nothing
easily moddable
yeah, it‘s just changing a line in the loc files
localisation and flag modding and youll never go back
Okay, talk in #hoi4-general then
We’re trying to discuss the newest update 😂
@hollow lion Hey Marjin, do we know if any additional formables will make it to the Czech tree? Was really hoping either Pan-Slavic Conf or HRE would make it but did not see in the patch notes.
Considering HRE for a followup patch
will there be more party names?🥹
But not considering a Pan-Slavic formable?
It would be pretty grounded and unique compared to many formables of late.
IMO big reason GDR was as successful as it was is that it had clear end goals in the way of formables.
I was arguing for a Central/Eastern European one dependent on Slavic countries
The only problem with that formable is getting all the land for it
Yeah that’s the point. It’s supposed to be an endgame formable
is there a chance for EU formable?
I’ve taken Europe as the Czechs like 4 times now and had nothing to do or form
End game gets boring and unrewarding
90% of players won’t be able to do it 😭
this might have to be a late edition but
agreed
can we please get a way to get him as leader
Maybe from.the democratic side of the branch with Peace for Our Time focus
Same could be argued for so many other formables in the game though
what do you mean it wasn't already golden, Paraslop?
The point is that it’s hard yet rewarding. This is almost like the Czech equivalent of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth
It was blue as if as every other tree lol
💔 I just like blue
where's my green formables, Marijn
stupidest thing I've ever heard lmao
im booting up rn
What’s stupid, the fact they’re all blue or what
The fact it’s gold is even further evidence it should have an HRE formable 😔
that would be super cool and fit the theme
that, but also the fact that Bohemia formable wasn't golden to begin with? like in, idk, EU?
Or that one of the nations that led the HRE for a long time is one of the only ones without an HRE path/formable
Yet Lichtenstein can form it 💀
can this become less rng?
like it already requires so many pre conditions
yep yep
interesting
Very cool color
Wish it was less RNG. Polish monarchy can just annex Czechs for free basically
Bohemoslovakia, my beloved
Why is HRE just a consideration and Pan-Slavic not considered though. There’s basically no end game goal currently apart from spirits.
AHE is mid-game at best and also doesn’t make as much sense
big hat
It’s just a bummer. Late game formables such as the German ones are what bring me back to countries again and again. With nothing like that I’ll have no real point to play it. :/
i feel like AHE could use some cosmetic versions of the tag
For sure
like kumul or the ma cliques have for empire of china
I think Marjin perceives it as me making a demand to “better” his dlc. But in reality I just want an excuse to play his DLC more and enjoy it. 😭
Yeah China has good naming diversity
But why can't Czechoslovakia form the Silk Road Empire?
the only czechoslovakia formable we truly need
wheres the kralovec secret path
from the river to the sea czechochechnyoslovenoslovaka shall be free
Bruh if I said something like this they’d instantly delete it and demand I don’t bring up modern politics 😭
🤣🤣🤣
😭😭
I mentioned how NATO was a defensive alliance once. And public probably wouldn’t support offensive wars hence War Support tanking for Czechs if they pursue war
And they deleted 💀
lmaoooo
that sounds dumb to me but eh what can i do about it
touchy subject
intermarium borders
still annoys me poland doesnt have intermarium as a formable..
Right
I mean it does have the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth Atleast
But somehow Czechs forming AHE makes more sense 😭
yeah but monarchism wasnt a really big movement in interwar poland
democratic and sanation poland should have access to intermarium formable and be able to core belarus, baltics and ukraine at the very least
Yet current Polish tree has like 4-5 monarchist paths 💀
Would be nice meh
Pan-Slavic Romanov Poland probably the closest to it
Or PLC

