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mild ledge
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Like the 3 communist paths

polar jasper
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I would say a trash path is one you cannot finish

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For example, I would say that Horthy Dynasty Hungary is a bad path because you can't really do anything without getting the whole world against you

crimson tartan
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new czechoslovakian focus tree yeaaah
hmm i think i've seen this before

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maybe in every single focus tree in hoi4 😭

polar jasper
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Japan I believe is both agaisnt the Soviets

crimson tartan
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nah must've been the wind

compact fractal
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what do you mean by that isn't it new

green scaffold
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its extremely minor and irrelevant

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new mechanic would be something like intelligence agency, international market, special projects, etc.

lament quail
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Intantry designer when?
šŸ˜›

polar jasper
compact fractal
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why doesn't paradox update the default focus tree

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probably not a massive expansion

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but add new features like a spy tree

verbal wave
mild ledge
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All of which dont need any new content

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And paradox actively supports modding

keen totem
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but yeah it's not a priority

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america, france and the UK should get reworks before they even touch something like

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oh idk

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nepal

brittle venture
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well in terms of like cap

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in terms of stats fascist iceland is better

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its pretty neat is all

keen totem
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iirc

compact fractal
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well not needs

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but it would improve the game

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since they are a nation who was involved in ww2

dusky gust
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Hello everyone! Is there anyone from Russia, or Russian-speaking?

compact fractal
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isn't it anhui

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or does the text mean something else

charred hare
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Anfu means peace and happiness, or so they say

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Mengkukuo will be getting a focus tree soon I hope

hollow coral
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安 means to inplement or install or can mean stability

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ē¦ can mean blessing or fortune

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Its like implementing fortune

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But the name is based on where there headquarters were

wooden pumice
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How would someone get back into this game?? The add-ons/expansions are so expensive

polar jasper
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While somethings have changed, most things have not

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Depending on when you stopped playing

wooden pumice
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Yeah, but if I dont buy the expansions, then stuff isnt updated right?

steep nest
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For multiplayer, if the host has all the DLCs, all players will share the same DLCs as the host regardless of if they do or don't have a specific DLCs

crimson tartan
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it's not that expensive

fresh cedar
fresh cedar
fresh cedar
crimson tartan
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the last dlc i bought it was by blood alone

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and when i will have enough money to buy the next dlc i will do it
that doens't mean i can't play the game right now

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šŸ™‚

fresh cedar
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It can be an expensive hobby

wooden pumice
wispy forum
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i didnt buy the india dlc

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im sorry paradox but we get scammed their

crimson tartan
steep nest
keen totem
compact fractal
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what DLC would you prefer the most:

  1. islamic DLC - all islamic nations on start date including albania

  2. Mongol DLC - a less expensive DLC, for mongolia, mengjiang, and the kumul khanate

  3. south-east asian DLC - the DLC we will get soon

  4. caribbean DLC - a less expensive DLC, for all the caribbean nations

  5. Allied powers fixup DLC - new focus trees for U.K, france, and U.S

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this is a question for everyone if you were wondering

lament quail
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  1. None of the above
eternal arch
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no paradox needs to stop with country dlc’s and fix the late game performance and all the bugs in the slop they’ve already released

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no new content

green scaffold
crimson tartan
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paradox needs to stop with hoi4 and move to hoi5

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šŸ™‚

lament quail
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TBH there's still 1-2 years of content in HOI4

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USA needs a rework BADLY

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and a couple other majors could use a touch-up, even if not a full rework (France, sPAIN)

keen totem
crimson tartan
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ā“

keen totem
crimson tartan
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it's already physically difficult to add new mechanics and rework the old ones

keen totem
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if all the majors had content like germany maybe id agree more

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but even then some features are neglected

crimson tartan
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but the focuses for everyone is not the goal

keen totem
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id say at least rework it

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instead of just abandoning it

eternal arch
brittle venture
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just not changed in name since its not available to other game devs or publishers anyway

eternal arch
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still the tech debt must be absolutely insane

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and it still lags like shit late game

mild ledge
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nobody is seriously choosing anytthing else

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but out of the other 3, probaly mongilia

compact fractal
whole arch
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Islamic dlc... That sounds familiar... Like... a graveyard of empires if you will

polar jasper
glossy inlet
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Tree part is generous

compact fractal
polar jasper
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Does the tiny breakaway nation really need that large of a tree

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When the standard warlord tree works

stable tusk
polar jasper
keen totem
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you could somewhat justify mongolia and mengjiang

polar jasper
keen totem
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but kumul is just beyond stupid

polar jasper
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People when they say Aussa has a unique tree: sir, it is the generic in the region

keen totem
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i highly doubt more then like 10% of the playerbase has played an aussa campaign past like 1940

polar jasper
keen totem
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let alone aussa

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i played it once as a joke and won the war cause italy went into civil war

gritty horizon
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Celtic dlc, let me play as guerilla ireland

gritty lava
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<@&846894118219022336>

keen totem
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two in a row

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thats a new record

static rampart
hoary hearth
thick edge
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I don’t think we want a DLC for every country though

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Like who will play countries like Lebanon, Yemen, or even Bhutan

hollow coral
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i for one would definitely play yemen or lebanon if they had a decent tree

fresh cedar
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Though I’d prefer Oman

brittle venture
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and the strait of uhhh the one next to yemen

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strait dlc fr

fresh cedar
brittle venture
fresh cedar
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Not in game tho

brittle venture
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afaik its when they ceded najran to saudi arabia

fresh cedar
fresh cedar
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Wish the African Union was done better

burnt sail
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This achievement will be crazy hard

meager rose
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It's hard, but there will probably be some strats that will be discover post release that will make this more manageable. But I won't spoil the ones I found in my own play testing.

burnt sail
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Yeah i was about say there isnt any stupid world conquest achievement

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Gj on that

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The achievements look very nice overall

charred flame
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There is typo in that Achievement. It's clearly reference for popular czech series "Pat and Mat", but the word you are looking for is "Kutil", plural "KutilovĆ©", which is translated to english as Handyman. KuńÔci is not a czech word at all, sounds like bad LLM translation šŸ˜‰

burnt sail
topaz haven
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Is there a fall of Prague event? Or Czechs entering berlin or other nation?

fresh cedar
fresh cedar
topaz haven
fresh cedar
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SABOT rounds let’s goooo

crimson tartan
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isn't it too op or somethin

fresh cedar
fresh cedar
crimson tartan
fresh cedar
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I don’t mind it since it’s behind a special project tbh

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Train MIO is really cool too. So hyped for this. Still wish we had a train designer šŸ˜‚

thick edge
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(I only know this because of vic3)

meager rose
# crimson tartan isn't it too op or somethin

It's been slightly adjusted which will be seen in a fellow up patch. Mostly removing the fort damage from combat since that is a dead modifier in this context, and the mistake of Artillery being listed twice which was an oversight I only caught recently. It's wasn't my intention to make something OP or something that is a must do Special Project for this. So of course we'll keep a close eye on this and adjust accordingly if it proves to be problematic.

Though I don't want to have a change interrupted as 'they release something OP and then nerf it 😔' of course that is not our intention. Just want to say we do care about the balance implications of a new Special Project and will react accordingly since that's just good practice full stop.

fresh cedar
meager rose
fresh cedar
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IMO game should be designed for singleplayer in mind, not MP

meager rose
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Not without a mod

meager rose
fresh cedar
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If special projects are too OP for MP, then they can easily mod it away

fresh cedar
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Think the addition of sabot is great tbh

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Hopefully one day Cold War infantry equipment becomes a special project

pine lake
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Hello, how do I get to the rocket vehicles like the Soviet Katusha?

coral drift
eternal arch
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maybe they could fix that by not releasing straight up slop for every dlc

crimson tartan
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define slop

subtle spear
keen totem
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hell yeah

drowsy umbra
stable tusk
green scaffold
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@hollow lion would Poland be getting similar bonuses, to the new Germany focus of integrating Czech industry, if they go on Habsburg path and unite with Czechoslovakiameow
they have a focus "join Czech industry/military" which just give some mills/civs now, would be cool if it also gave mios and some other bonuses, as what would happen in the alt history scenario of them uniting

meager rose
green scaffold
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alright Cat_Sip

keen totem
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even if its just an event

stable tusk
meager rose
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If things are historical up until that point I don't see why it couldn't happen Cat_Sip

hazy gulch
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what is the state of the game with the latest update

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has it stabilized?

keen totem
meager rose
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But maybe an event to declare war on a tag? meow

stable tusk
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Can't wait for the Carpatho Ukraine world conquests

gritty lava
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Kinda surprised that there isn't an achievement for uniting Ukraine as Carpatho-Ukraine

green scaffold
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a rebellion that spawns troops

meager rose
keen totem
wise oxide
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true is it a new country with a new id?

mild ledge
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is useless

brittle venture
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AT is classed as infantry for buffs afaik

charred hare
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Will there be a focus tree incoming for Mengkukuo soon?

gritty lava
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Don't get your hopes up about it

brittle heron
outer whale
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Isn't it suppose to be Czechoslovak

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because it's the correct adjective

crimson tartan
# outer whale Isn't it suppose to be Czechoslovak

Both "Czechoslovak" and "Czechoslovakian" are acceptable adjectives or nouns referring to the former state of Czechoslovakia (1918–1992) or its citizens. "Czechoslovak" is generally considered more formal or preferred in scholarly contexts, while "Czechoslovakian" is a common variant.

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šŸ™‚ šŸ‘

outer whale
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lol

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the term slovakian mainy adapted from american english afaik while slovak was used by the british

crimson tartan
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it is czechoslovakian not slovakian mate

outer whale
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this is mainly a affect of linguistic convention for south slavs that gets carried over to Czechs and Slovaks

crimson tartan
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the game is on english

outer whale
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Croatian, Serbian, Slovenian etc
but that does apply to south slavs not to Slovaks or Czechs

crimson tartan
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not chech or slovak

outer whale
crimson tartan
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but called them czechoslovakian

outer whale
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that was adapted from american english

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not the british english

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as I said this noun was used for south slavs

crimson tartan
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the game uses both american and british english interchangeably

outer whale
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which does not include czechs and slovaks

crimson tartan
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well english is not even my native language so why am i even talking about it šŸ™‚

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you are probably right

grand nacelle
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both are right anyway though (czechoslovak and czechoslovakian)

compact fractal
wise oxide
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mega good ai improvements super exited

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the update is peak

carmine elm
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When a new rework of France ?

burnt sail
carmine elm
# burnt sail Prolly about this time next year or when HOI5 releases

Yeah, because when u have no industry, with the best run, just always defend front the german or italy, or the others country have non historics runs, and france just have 3 focus for monarchy... Franchs want more possibility for have fun and play France (I don't talk about some historics fact about france and no disposed in the game)

lyric coyote
hollow coral
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Which do somewhat need to a rework to match the other majors

lyric coyote
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feels bad when the RAJ loyalty path has more interesting empire defence focuses than the UK

hollow coral
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raj has the most focuses in the game actually

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Something like 400

carmine elm
lyric coyote
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commie india with reduced infantry combat width+doctrine for the same thing is fun to do

lyric coyote
carmine elm
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when u have new Czechoslovak tree, u can rework france

hollow coral
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I recently did an akhand bharat gameplay and honestly the coring system felt smooth

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france is just not that replayablr

lyric coyote
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kind of like russia

hollow coral
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What drives me away from russia is that you have to do a civil war for alt his

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I havent even played the alt communist paths

lyric coyote
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Next thing i'd like to see is a shared focus tree for commonwealth or joint chiefs of staff for allies

carmine elm
hollow coral
carmine elm
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more 3 non historical focus for exemple

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3 possibilities of non historical, in one image...

lyric coyote
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Whats the next dlc after Czechoslovakia? Siam-Dutch East Indies - Aussie?

carmine elm
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compare with germany

lyric coyote
hollow coral
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And that one is only playable once or twice

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france needs a major expansion like germany

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probably after us and uk rework though

carmine elm
carmine elm
carmine elm
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need more options

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for france, aviation is zero

lyric coyote
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The political paths are fine for France

carmine elm
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but, history said other fact

carmine elm
hollow coral
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every try ing is just boring honestly

carmine elm
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France diserve beter

hollow coral
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the french guy larping as the chilean king has more flavour

carmine elm
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same for uk

hollow coral
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Genuinely

hollow coral
carmine elm
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hear the french comunity, all talk about the unplayable france

lyric coyote
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If you really want a better France experience there are good mods out there

hollow coral
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Tbh i only ever play vanilla

carmine elm
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So Asian countries that are really in the background deserve a better focus tree and DLCs, but France which is still a major power doesn’t get that right? That’s messed up. We’re supposed to just rely on mods lol? Like we’re not even allowed a REAL DLC.

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For example, you can see panels for managing Adolf Hitler’s inner circle; given France’s situation and its high command, we could have something similar that’s just one example among many. We French have ideas. You just have to ask, right? We deserve better…

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Considering a major country like France as just a buffer that merely slows down Germany (and even then lol, you basically get crushed in less than a day with all the bonuses Germany has) isn’t reasonable at all.

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You mentioned mods, mods are a good example of what France can be worth in the game without ā€œde-historicizingā€ things in a historical playthrough… You’re going to tell me ā€œwell just play with mods instead of bothering us,ā€ and my response is that it’s about representation. The in-game France has been neglected, and the French community that wants to play it feels the same way. I’m speaking for them…

green scaffold
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the issue from france is not that it's weak but that its tree is kinda pointless

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france is pretty strong

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you can beat Germany easily

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but all of the monarchist paths not giving you cores is so ass

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communist path doesn't really do anything nor does fascist

green scaffold
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why does italy gets to core Rome but france doesn't get to core french empire

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but anyways

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there are countries that need it way more than france

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france is fine

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meanwhile stuff like the US, commonwealth nations, Yugoslavia, Romania can barely count as playable nations

carmine elm
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I can agree with you, but when I see that with the latest DLC the Asian countries got almost a complete rework, and now Czechoslovakia has branches for every ideology same for Austria… France, with its focus tree, its generals, ministers, admirals, high command and everything else, really pales in comparison… But hey, we’re supposed to just stick to mods lol…

lavish verge
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so new update is gonna make subs not shit?

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also seems to buff the ai a bit, ig thats good

wise oxide
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old hoi 4 trees be like

carmine elm
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We deserve more than a dozen generals, five admirals, 2–3 aircraft types, and 130 warships. Generals like Jean de Lattre de Tassigny, Charles de Gaulle, Philippe Leclerc de Hauteclocque, and FranƧois Darlan all deserve better starting stats. When you compare their bonuses to those of Germany, Japan, or the U.S., there’s a pretty big gap.

Same goes for French aviation, sure, historically there was a delay, but it was much smaller than what the game shows. The French Navy was closely matching the German navy, and French fighters were nearly as numerous as the German ones.

hollow coral
carmine elm
hollow coral
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france essentially has a default tree but they have flavour

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industrial tree is useless

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i dont even know what the army tree does

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aviation and navy are basic

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the political tree is outdated not bad

carmine elm
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French navy is that ? Really ? Where u gonna take hisrical facts...

brittle venture
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hi cat

hollow coral
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ig we will get the french dlc in 2028

carmine elm
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they are nepal tree before Kappa

hollow coral
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i would definitely play nepal tree ngl

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if i really wanted to learn how to mod a nepal tree would be the first thing

carmine elm
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Paradox, please rework france

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before maroc, central africa

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Even Belgium has a better focus tree

hollow coral
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the french dlc ideally would have morocco tunisia lebanon syria and vietnam

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thats what i would like

compact fractal
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indochina should become a colonial puppet

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tunisia and morocco into protectorates if im correct

hollow coral
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yes

compact fractal
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this is off topic, but if they changed the U.S, I would actually like more moderate paths

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remove the fascist and communist paths

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and add more internal paths, such as giving states autonomy

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or centralization

hollow coral
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not remove but a massive rework

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especially reworking or even removing the confederates

brittle venture
brittle venture
compact fractal
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because the game sort of seems to ignore factions within parties

brittle venture
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the world hates france

compact fractal
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such as, the democrats versus republicans don't matter that much in the U.S

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well they do include it sometimes

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but for switching ideologies no barely

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I realize im not making much sense

carmine elm
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Dear Paradox Interactive team,

In Hearts of Iron IV, France currently feels like it belongs to an older design standard compared to more recently updated nations.

The issue is not specific missing elements, but that the country as a whole no longer matches the level of depth and system design seen in modern content.

France would benefit from a complete rework from the ground up, bringing it in line with current HOI4 standards.

This would include a full redesign of how France functions politically, militarily, and internally, so that its gameplay better reflects:

its complex 1936 starting situation
its political instability and ideological tensions
its colonial empire and global responsibilities
its military structure and command challenges
and its multiple plausible alternate-history trajectories

Right now, France does not feel fully rebuilt to match the depth of newer nation designs, and instead feels closer to legacy content.

A full rework would allow France to become a properly modern major nation in both historical and alternate-history gameplay, rather than a transitional or underdeveloped experience.

wise oxide
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usa is even worse

carmine elm
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objectivement ils peuvent se battre...

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ComparƩ Ơ la France mdr

crimson tartan
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wha

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it's english server my brother šŸ˜”

brittle venture
crimson tartan
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yeah it's not so hard for me to undertstand some of the other languages

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but

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šŸ˜”

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english motherlover do you speak it

carmine elm
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usa can fight comparate to france

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se battre = fighting

green scaffold
lofty creek
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what happened with putting capital letters in the patch notes?

green scaffold
lofty creek
green scaffold
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the usa focus tree is like

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useless

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there's nothing in it

carmine elm
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like france

green scaffold
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no its way worse

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france get industry, cores, huge research bonuses

carmine elm
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usa is alone since 1941

green scaffold
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wdym

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usa has like the worst production capabilities per factory

carmine elm
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usa have industry

green scaffold
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from all majors

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usa has way less industry than it should have historically or even compared to other majors

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it starts with a lot of civs and that's it

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but then for 3 years it can barely build anything

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has no production buffs like cap increase

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mid mios

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and no expansion paths

carmine elm
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i play better with usa than france lol

green scaffold
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i mean, usa is definitely more forgiving because nobody can invade you

thick edge
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Massive navy too

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Massive starting core pop

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And resources

thick edge
crimson tartan
thick edge
crimson tartan
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you want usa to be not OP but OOOOOOOOP?

carmine elm
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france don't have oil, but guyane have irl

green scaffold
carmine elm
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france need defend in 1940 front boosted gererals with 30 percent attack witch focus and other

compact fractal
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the game has a problem with overestimating german power and underestimating allied power

carmine elm
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usa have navy, aviation focus

green scaffold
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soviets, uk, germany, and italy are all way better than the USA

carmine elm
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france have nothing

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for navy, aviation

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no focus

green scaffold
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they can have half the world cored before usa can even move

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uk can have the usa cored in 1938

crimson tartan
carmine elm
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if we have 10 percent for attack or defend it's max

green scaffold
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the usa can never core anything other than Hawaii and Alaska

carmine elm
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algeria have iron and it's all

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not really balanced

crimson tartan
carmine elm
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wea have 40 percent of entire africa but no ressources on them

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gg

thick edge
# crimson tartan you want usa to be not OP but OOOOOOOOP?

Military production during World War II was the production or mobilization of arms, ammunition, personnel and financing by the belligerents of the war, from the Anschluss in early 1938 to the surrender and occupation of Japan in late 1945.
The mobilization of funds, people, natural resources and material for the production and supply of military...

carmine elm
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france have 11 naval product

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for the french navy

green scaffold
carmine elm
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french navy, one of most powerfull

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uk have 17

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8 military

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15 civil

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dude it's not france

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it's png

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one of most giant army yes, historic fact

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but all is a 50 percent armed

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lol

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always bad bonus

crimson tartan
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usa as of 1936 has as much civs as all of the other great powers in the game

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biggest steel, fuel, coal reserves

crimson tartan
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ow really

green scaffold
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they can't do anything with most of their factories for 3 years

crimson tartan
green scaffold
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me when undisturbed isolation and no mobilization

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and even after building

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use factories are just worth less per factory

crimson tartan
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and what country can actually do something for the first 3 years of the game

green scaffold
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literally every country that is not the usa?

thick edge
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China

crimson tartan
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yeah those are great powers

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šŸ™‚

thick edge
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Ww2 literally starts in 3 years

green scaffold
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having the default focus tree for the usa

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would unironically be stronger

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like

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much stronger

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you would be having gun 3

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you would be able to switch ideologies

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you would be able to go to war

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going fascist as the usa takes 3 years

crimson tartan
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you have infinite resources, manpower and industry
you have big аss fleet that can prevent any enemy from invading you
just sit for 3 years and build up your industry
than 1 year to mobilize and voila tanks go brrrrrr

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no one can ever attack you from any side

green scaffold
green scaffold
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the uk can have the usa cored by that time so like

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just strictly better

thick edge
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This humble thing called the funny empire

brittle venture
green scaffold
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italy can have rome

brittle venture
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chris

green scaffold
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japan can core china

brittle venture
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haafy

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chris

green scaffold
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by 1938

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hi casey

brittle venture
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is this about germany nerf

green scaffold
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no its about usa buff

brittle venture
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i sleep

green scaffold
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why is usa the weakest major

brittle venture
thick edge
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Yes

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Not to that

thick edge
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šŸ¦… šŸ¦…

green scaffold
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boring

coral drift
fresh cedar
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Though now you can tell its age just as newer DLC’s have innovated

coral drift
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But i agree in that more historical contents can be added in general

fresh cedar
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But Napoleon and Orlean are solid

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+1 weekly stability with orlean is cracked

coral drift
carmine elm
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super

compact fractal
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does anyone know if the new DLC gives indochina autonomy

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the south east asia DLC

fresh cedar
# carmine elm France dlc

This is literally the best part of the tree. šŸ˜‚ Left tree has unlimited stability. Middle can unite with Span. Right can conquer Europe before Germany.

coral drift
fresh cedar
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That was an insanely fun dlc when it came out. I know because I was there

coral drift
fresh cedar
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Focus tree length doesn’t equate to enjoyment or replay-ability

carmine elm
fresh cedar
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Sorry Paradox doesn’t have an insanely long tree for France even though it historically got curbstomped by 1940

thick edge
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Unrelated but could we a queue for spy upgrades

fresh cedar
coral drift
fresh cedar
coral drift
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Then you can add "has_capitulated = no" checks on some focus

fresh cedar
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I just don’t understand his point. He was saying France is bad because Belgium and Germany have newer trees?

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I often find myself playing French monarchies again and again on ahistorical bc it’s fun

thick edge
fresh cedar
compact fractal
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i think best tree in hoi4 is the red wood tree

fresh cedar
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But not a cool Quebecois French like Chak

compact fractal
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why is vichy france not have its own tag

fresh cedar
compact fractal
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why does spanish civil war

fresh cedar
carmine elm
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vs France tree

fresh cedar
fresh cedar
carmine elm
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monarchy or empire trees

fresh cedar
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Same with Austria

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Same with Japan

carmine elm
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plane german tree, I don't talk about bonus

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france plane tree

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bonus research speed only

fresh cedar
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Tbh I’d rather see USA get a rework before France

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France is Atleast fun to play

thick edge
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Is it just me or are they just going east with DLC

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Germany
Middle East
Japan
Czech (outlier)
The south east Asia one

carmine elm
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That’s what I’ve been saying from the start: I feel justified, and so does the HOI4 French community, in asking for France to be reworked and not just a little. Instead of treating me like I’m an idiot

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USA is same yes

coral drift
compact fractal
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morocco and tunisia and indochina

fresh cedar
compact fractal
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does anyone know what the offical name for french indochina was

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or was it just french indochina

carmine elm
carmine elm
fresh cedar
coral drift
fresh cedar
compact fractal
carmine elm
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no oil in Guyane

coral drift
coral drift
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Morowali nickels, here i comee

compact fractal
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oh offical name for indochina was indochinese union

fresh cedar
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Tbh I’d rather France get a dlc like Czech is with its entire focus on just France. Then an allies DLC with USA and UK

crimson tartan
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i don't think this will ever happen

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šŸ˜”

fresh cedar
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Almost wish there was a French Equivalent of Together for Victory

carmine elm
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None of this is a provocation towards Paradox; it's just that France is unbalanced today.

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even less so with the new trees from countries like Germany or Japan

fresh cedar
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Idk, if you play as France it’s quite strong. But the AI is pretty weak, ig to allow what historically happened to happen

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25% planning is pretty cracked

carmine elm
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The USA remained peaceful until 1941 and had the best industry in the world; it doesn't yet fit into the picture, in my opinion.

compact fractal
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why don't they add path for kaiser wilhelm in netherlands

carmine elm
fresh cedar
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At the very least

carmine elm
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yeah but he can fight

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same for france ?

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in multiplayer ?

compact fractal
carmine elm
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in 1940 ?

compact fractal
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what a bout this

green scaffold
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they need cores

thick edge
green scaffold
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like they're playable

compact fractal
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expand indochina

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image I sent

carmine elm
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French rework ?

fresh cedar
# green scaffold they're really not

Relearn has unlimited stability when every other French tree struggles with it and Napoleon can Conquer Germany, UK, USA, and Soviets very early

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Plus De Luge focus buffs

carmine elm
green scaffold
crimson tartan
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ayoooo

carmine elm
thick edge
carmine elm
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can't have focus for recup louisiana or quebec

crimson tartan
carmine elm
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for exemple

thick edge
compact fractal
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or what about if french indochina claims the mantle of real china

thick edge
fresh cedar
compact fractal
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rework

green scaffold
carmine elm
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very cool

thick edge
green scaffold
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Napoleon path doesn't give yoi anything

fresh cedar
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Its finality is that its way more stable than other other French tree so you are free to conquer whatever you want

compact fractal
green scaffold
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you could go communist and conquer everything just as much

compact fractal
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or something like that

fresh cedar
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These trees might not get wargoals really but you as a player can still invade whomever you wish

green scaffold
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Napoleon is just flavor

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wow it gives wargoals

fresh cedar
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It takes a shred of critical thinking to enjoy the French monarchy trees

green scaffold
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(wargoals are useless)

thick edge
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So because of a name that u think the names means they get cores on all of southern china

carmine elm
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napolƩon tree give you possibility for declare war, SUPER

compact fractal
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I mean it could be path for french

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to expand into chin

thick edge
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That’s literally what you said

fresh cedar
compact fractal
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yes but it would be focus

carmine elm
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Bourbon tree, declare war to spain, SUPER

compact fractal
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not on start

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it be like franco-spain union

fresh cedar
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French Empire recruitable buffs are the equivalent of going up an entire conscription law for free

green scaffold
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it has decent core pop

carmine elm
fresh cedar
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And you can also annex Congo/Indonesia by conquering lowlands

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Meaning resources

green scaffold
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again you can do that anyways

fresh cedar
green scaffold
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nothing stops you from justifying

fresh cedar
carmine elm
burnt sail
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Just join the axis

fresh cedar
compact fractal
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why don't they add new path to put napoleons coffen as french empreror

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r

carmine elm
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germany have bonus and better army

compact fractal
fresh cedar
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Pretty sure you can take lowlands by 1938

carmine elm
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70 days for all focus

green scaffold
fresh cedar
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I mean my bad you have to play competently and respect the dates rather than conquer and core all of Europe by 1936 šŸ˜‚

fresh cedar
carmine elm
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365day for constitution reviexw

green scaffold
fresh cedar
compact fractal
green scaffold
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you don't get cores on anything with Napoleon

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which is really unclear why

compact fractal
fresh cedar
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Braindead argument

burnt sail
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Yall doing too much the french focus tree is okay, the USA’s one is much worse

fresh cedar
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Diminishing returns with subsequent justifications. The focus not only avoids guarantees but is also 5x quick than justifying individually

compact fractal
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then it is big

fresh cedar
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I’m not disagreeing that France needs a rework. But saying it’s a bad tree is objectively false

burnt sail
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I believe they will both get reworked together with the UK at some point

carmine elm
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It's not balanced compared to other countries + the new trees, you can explain it to me in simple terms, it's obvious

fresh cedar
green scaffold
green scaffold
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italy has a focus that gives it wargoals against all of Europe

green scaffold
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like be fr

fresh cedar
coral drift
green scaffold
fresh cedar
fresh cedar
coral drift
green scaffold
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france has the disjointed government

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which makes it super free

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like even if we ignore paratroopers cheese

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its still free

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you naval invade

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and kill them

fresh cedar
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Yeah majority of players would benefit from French expansion over Italian. To succeed as Italy you atleast need to be competent

green scaffold
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that is also true for france

fresh cedar
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France steamrolling everyone especially weaker neighbors would be too easy

green scaffold
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most players would die to Germany regardless

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as france

fresh cedar
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It has direct land borders with Iberia and Benelux

fresh cedar
green scaffold
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getting Benelux and spain early doesn't give you all that much

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you don't get cores and don't have time to do collabs

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so like

fresh cedar
green scaffold
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yeah uts not much

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like

shy lake
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anyone balkan wanna start a new save?

green scaffold
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if ur doing planes

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its nice

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but outside of that

fresh cedar
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Enough to then gobble UK, Germany and USA

green scaffold
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meh

green scaffold
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that's not an argument

fresh cedar
green scaffold
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I'd rather play democratic france

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and do the EU

shy lake
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homo

green scaffold
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way better

shy lake
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france shit

fresh cedar
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Just do UK order 66, the empire then form Europe

shy lake
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yugoslavia best country

carmine elm
shy lake
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ok

fresh cedar
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Realistically though, if France got as substantial of content as Germany or Japan. It would probably get huge debuffs till like 1941

shy lake
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its got potential

green scaffold
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... it literally has huge debuffs?

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like

fresh cedar
shy lake
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it just has a lot of enemies around it

fresh cedar
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Not just manpower and doctrine

green scaffold
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the French industry tree is pretty good

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one of the best

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im only complaining about political paths

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the political paths are the issue

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both for historical and non hist

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why does the france historical path end with joining the allies

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in a game that is all about alt history

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why does the game assume you lose

carmine elm
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that's i'm talking about the start

green scaffold
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the only thing i want for france military tree wise, is to have a focus that gives infantry weapons research bonuses

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that's it, that would make it perfect

fresh cedar
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Reworks are never just one part of a tree

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I already know France will start crippled and you have to crawl out of it. Deciding to have a strong military or stronger industry by the time Germany invades

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Hopefully not with a balance of power between Infantry/Forts and Mechanized/Tanks

glossy inlet
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If no scratch that when France gets another dlc and rework id like if they took the time to revitalise Yugoslavia and Romania they’re showing their age that war efforts alone can’t really fix

fresh cedar
thick edge
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French anchluss?

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American anchluss?

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American MEFO?

gray osprey
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18 hours lefttttttttttt

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till dlc

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roughly

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I'm excited

compact fractal
brittle venture
brittle venture
brittle venture
compact fractal
brittle venture
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rhine would be fine tho

bitter mauve
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Pyrenees treaty gave France the County of Roussillon

green scaffold
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french with Germany focus tree would be annexing all french speaking places

brittle venture
bitter mauve
brittle venture
mild ledge
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It ends in like 1940, all the non political focuses are outdated doctrine bonuses and research bonuses which is on par for old forus tree

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The politcal focuses are super boring espescially for a nation like france which could be so cool especially like communist france, for example orleanist france with focuses such as clear the slums and thats it

compact fractal
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what if the map in africa had more colonial puppets

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turkey is red but thats besides the point

mild ledge
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but besides that

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i dont see a point if they dont add content to them

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look at transjordan for example

compact fractal
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wasn't it a protectorate

mild ledge
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not everythign needs to be ingame

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morroco and egypt are intresting

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tunis isnt

compact fractal
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but its a world war two game isn't it

wise oxide
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atleast a lazy shared tree would be good

mild ledge
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the only thing tunis could have is like a mapuche chile carthage scizo path that youtubers would make a video on

wise oxide
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but its paraslop so we wont even get that

compact fractal
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I don't think any colonial puppet with the exception of egypt, a potential indochina, and palestine? should get focus trees

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and maybe only egypt

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but, I think it would be more fun for a colonial focus tree for the overlord

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such as expanding or annexing puppets

compact fractal
harsh hull
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Egypt and Indochina yes, but if we want to have another British colonial tag, I would think Burma rather than Palestine

keen totem
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but given how much controversy that area brings in media i wouldnt be surprised if paradox doesnt ever bother to touch it

coral drift
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At least the historical branch should have it

coral drift
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<@&846894118219022336>

lusty rampart
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thanks

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cursed pfp btw, keep going.

coral drift
lusty rampart
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2014... old joke indeed

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what a good year that was.

coral drift
harsh hull
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Indochina/Burma/Malaysia/New Zealand rework DLC next please

stable mica
#

What time will the DLC be released?

harsh hull
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NCNS released around at [whatever your local time is + 10 hours] last time

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So I assume something like 10 hours from this message would be a good starting point

charred flame
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I am expecting 4 PM CEST (GMT+2).

wise oxide
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how many hours?

crimson tartan
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are people really that dumb to ask question that have been anwered a few times already every single day just to annoy devs?

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😟

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so glad I quit HOI4 last year
proceeds to visit game community months later

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daaaamn reddut is such a nice place
you can be ver annoying and toxic person and get so many upvotes

safe trail
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his dlc will get downvoted into oblivion my guess is 20%

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this

wise oxide
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4 hours

safe trail
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4 hours and gates of hell will open

brittle venture
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4 hours?

wise oxide
#

heaven

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update is better than the dlc

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hoi players when extra content= 😭 🄺 🤬 šŸ‘¹

coral drift
green scaffold
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<@&846894118219022336>

static rampart
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It's disappointing that we aren't getting Slovakia content, but honestly it is a bit counterproductive to complain about not getting something that wasn't promised in the first place

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It being so geographically similar to Czechia, and not even being a starting country in 1936 ultimately means even if it did get a tree it probably wouldn't be fun or worth it, just a weaker Czechia

brittle venture
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it might still have content HmmYes

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like bolivia has content but no tree

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generic tree is strong anyway

charred flame
# static rampart It being so geographically similar to Czechia, and not even being a starting cou...

Well... it was more complicated.

In 1919, Czechoslovakia was intended to be a state of two equal nations - Czechs and Slovaks. Sadly, there was one minority larger than the Slovaks: the Germans. And the Germans were not very loyal to this new state.

As a politician, you simply could not explain why the third-largest group should receive autonomy while the second-largest should not.

So Prague decided to promote the idea of one "Czechoslovak nation" with two branches - Czech and Slovak. It solved the problem of how to refuse autonomy to the Germans in the Sudetenland, but it also created tensions with Slovaks, who felt betrayed. That was the initial situation in 1936.

Apart from that, there was nothing particularly important about the Slovak puppet state. It was created in March 1939, there was a 2–3 month uprising in 1944, and that was all.

Even nowadays, Slovakia does not consider itself the successor of this wartime state, but rather the successor of pre-Munich Czechoslovakia.

static rampart
#

That has nothing to do with how Slovak content would function in game though which was what I pointed out

brittle venture
charred flame
#

What I found outrageous in the original DoD DLC was how much potential of the Czechoslovak Legion was wasted. Czechoslovakia had many former Legion veterans with valuable experience, yet in the original focus tree they were reduced to a single focus that gave a Volunteer Force modifier. Nothing else...

charred flame
# brittle venture except some of their nationalists dont

Our nationalists (yes, I’m from Slovakia) are honestly laughable. They praise the wartime Slovak state, consider Jozef Tiso our first president, and claim he was merely a victim of a communist show trial. At the same time, they constantly shout about sovereignty.

But whenever Viktor OrbƔn refers to all of Slovakia as FelvidƩk, or appears with a map of Greater Hungary, they remain silent.

Just a pathetic bunch of clowns... 🤔

topaz haven
wet stag
static rampart
nimble torrent
#

Just to be sure
The division designer changes are NOT coming with this dlc, are they?

crimson tartan
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i wonder if there is anything about soviet-france-czechoslovak relations

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except this one event with czechoslovakia asking france to help and then hearing loud NO in response šŸ™‚

red gust
#

are there any mp games going on?

green scaffold
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is the dlc live yet

burnt sail
wise oxide
#

7min

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frikin hyped lowkey

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love the ai changes keep it coming paradox

crimson tartan
wise oxide
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because smart ai means more challenging and balanced game

crimson tartan
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the last dlc i bought it was by blood alone ppbly

wise oxide
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because ai is dumb has bad designs and bad planing and bad builds and decisions while even noob players can pick better choises and stuff

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like ai picks advisors for stuff they never use sometimes instead of the best ones

opaque grove
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How much is it gona cost?

west lake
#

your soul

opaque grove
#

I have no soul i sold it

west lake
#

oh

opaque grove
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I sold it for all hoi4 dlc exepct graveyards of empirers

brisk patrol
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where is the dlc paradox...

safe plover
opaque grove
#

K

west lake
safe plover
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Which is insane tbh

opaque grove
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Is it out?

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Nah

safe plover
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Yea

opaque grove
#

6 dolars is not that much

safe plover
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Well for smth that doesnt add any mechanics plus we alr have a ton of czechia mods

safe plover
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bavaria mentioend

solid gyro
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me when I think of Czechoslovakia

safe plover
ebon mauve
#

Why am I not getting the latest DLC with my subscription

cosmic falcon
#

And now we wait for Thunder at out Gates.

limpid sparrow
#

when i start hoi4 although i have the dlc, it isnt loaded, why?

safe plover
ebon mauve
#

bugs at our gates

drifting star
#

Any secret paths ?

north hamlet
#

The dlc JUST came out man

compact fractal
drifting star
#

So yes

compact fractal
#

maybe

rugged zodiac
#

how many focuses is there?

compact fractal
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don't know

ebon mauve
#

Okay I get it now

compact fractal
ebon mauve
compact fractal
#

actually it might be around 50-100 in a guess

rugged zodiac
limpid sparrow
jovial flower
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Does Slovakia has any content? I heard a guy got banned ln forums for asking this question so I'm interested

north hamlet
#

Mods ban this guy

limpid sparrow
safe plover
#

new option for germany

kindred beacon
jovial flower
charred flame
kindred beacon
jovial flower
pseudo wing
jovial flower
#

So I cannot

kindred beacon
charred flame
jovial flower
kindred beacon
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Based

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(so if ww3 starts you're screwed)

safe plover
cosmic stag
#

cant wait for the 2 other Dlcs for hoi4

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the seaplane tenders and TAOG

charred flame
kindred beacon
#

How does the Czechoslovak exile mechanic work?

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Is it like Ethiopia?

cosmic stag
safe plover
#

this is new also ig

drifting star
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Ping me when yall find secrets

safe plover
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k thats insane

charred flame
#

Well... in few hours we will update our czech translation project. šŸ˜„ Should be funny, how many "hidden" events and focus have their localization strings in files...

Once I found one removed event in Gotterdammerung event files. About Adventures of Tintin šŸ˜„

fresh cedar
#

.3?

meager rose
fresh cedar
#

Really excited to play this DLC after work

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Can anyone tell me if there’s any hidden content/trees/leaders

safe plover
jovial flower
silk island
#

Do you guys thing its worth it to buy peace for our time?

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i think it could be cheaper if it“s focus tree only for one nation

whole arch
#

Woo, Paradoxs first mostly positive dlc on Steam, PfoT seems to be doing alright

tired acorn
whole arch
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Ofc people are complaining about the very steep price ($6/£5) already lmao 😭

tired acorn
#

6 euro for copy of hungary tree

hollow lion
stuck smelt
#

devs how does this actually work??

crimson tartan
#

no seriously
this is not funny

#

FOCUS PACK
MADE FOR 1 COUNTRY

hollow lodge
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6$

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Arms against Tyranny has 5 nations and is 20, and also adds a feature.

My take

hollow lodge
#

Huh?

safe trail
hollow lion
#

I guess Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Finland?

safe trail
#

is 6

hollow lodge
compact fractal
hollow lion
#

Tbf Czechoslovakia is about as big as Iceland and Denmark combined

compact fractal
#

unless it was rushed

hollow lion
#

It wasnt rushed

crimson tartan
#

šŸ™‚

compact fractal
#

apple 🄲

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pear 😢 😢

crimson tartan
#

no seriously
when they announced pfot they made it clear that this will be an experimental dlc focus on one single country

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because people were not happy with several counties focus packs, like bftb and toa

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they repeated it several times
and now people say that's bad

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ā“ ā“ ā“

stuck smelt
brittle venture
compact fractal
#

nuclear missile 🄲 😢

meager rose
lament quail
#

i.e. GoE

compact fractal
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although it may just be because I like china

crimson tartan
lament quail
#

tbh NCNS is ok imho, the main issue is how they broke the naval AI on release

compact fractal
#

why aren't they updating the base game?

whole arch
compact fractal
compact fractal
#

it seems to be a common problem with community's wanting more

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some games even give free updates

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and people still say they're lazy

whole arch
#

The hoi4 community would lk complain if the dlcs were free atp

lament quail
#

The mind boggling part is, you are releasing a major DLC focused around a major country with a strong naval focus, that historically fights against another major country with strong navvy... how the hell you don't notice you broke the naval AI?

carmine bough
#

the way i'm reading the reviews it seems like yet another banger from paradox interactive ā˜•ļø

brittle venture
#

is there a new update?

carmine bough
#

gonna be riding this one out, doesnt seem worth taking 5€ out of my bank account lol

cold axle
#

does the dlc add new stuff to only czechoslovakia or also for other countries?

carmine bough
brittle venture
carmine bough
#

uh yeah a dlc released to day

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seems like it's the usual slop high quality content we've come to expect from paradox, at least from the reviews

crimson tartan
brittle venture
topaz haven
#

they nerfed czechoslovakia so much

whole arch
#

Should probably watch a YouTubers review on the dlc or something, a lot of Steam reviews are as slop as iSorrows slop channel

topaz haven
#

billion debufs literally for a nation that is gonna get eaten in 1938

carmine bough
#

and, in the end, it's five bucks for a single focus tree

hollow lion
carmine bough
#

not at all worth it

topaz haven
coral drift
#

Better to save up money for TaoG

crimson tartan
#

i can't really call this tree a slop

lament quail
#

when your tree is so wide you need to lift the mouse to continue scrolling

stuck smelt
coral drift