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I would say a trash path is one you cannot finish
For example, I would say that Horthy Dynasty Hungary is a bad path because you can't really do anything without getting the whole world against you
new czechoslovakian focus tree yeaaah
hmm i think i've seen this before
maybe in every single focus tree in hoi4 š
Except Japan
Japan I believe is both agaisnt the Soviets
nah must've been the wind
what do you mean by that isn't it new
i didn't say it isn't new
i said it isn't a mechanic
its extremely minor and irrelevant
new mechanic would be something like intelligence agency, international market, special projects, etc.
Intantry designer when?
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It's called doctrines
why doesn't paradox update the default focus tree
probably not a massive expansion
but add new features like a spy tree
there are enough mods for that and who plays countries with the generic tree either way
The only countries with all dlcs left is albania, himilayas, minor american countries, and releasables
All of which dont need any new content
And paradox actively supports modding
i mean it'd be nice if they did get stuff eventually
but yeah it's not a priority
america, france and the UK should get reworks before they even touch something like
oh idk
nepal
nepal has the strongest special forces buff in the game
well in terms of like cap
in terms of stats fascist iceland is better
its pretty neat is all
i remember they have some unique national spirit
iirc
albania definitely needs at least a small focus tree
well not needs
but it would improve the game
since they are a nation who was involved in ww2
Hello everyone! Is there anyone from Russia, or Russian-speaking?
Anfu is the executive wing of the Anhui Clique
Anfu means peace and happiness, or so they say
Mengkukuo will be getting a focus tree soon I hope
Not really
å® means to inplement or install or can mean stability
ē¦ can mean blessing or fortune
Its like implementing fortune
But the name is based on where there headquarters were
How would someone get back into this game?? The add-ons/expansions are so expensive
Look up what the new features do and theb play the game normally
While somethings have changed, most things have not
Depending on when you stopped playing
Yeah, but if I dont buy the expansions, then stuff isnt updated right?
The game and its DLCs regularly go on sale if I recall
For multiplayer, if the host has all the DLCs, all players will share the same DLCs as the host regardless of if they do or don't have a specific DLCs
30$ purchase in a year
it's not that expensive
Some people donāt have jobs
Yes, but it is an English only server sadly.
Iād be inclined to agree but if the did a similar single focus tree like the Czech one before, I wouldnāt be opposed
me for example
the last dlc i bought it was by blood alone
and when i will have enough money to buy the next dlc i will do it
that doens't mean i can't play the game right now
š
Yeah thatās rough. Used to be me but I liked gaming too much so started working š
It can be an expensive hobby
I donāt have all of them lol

focus packs would be nice for certain countries i do agree
what DLC would you prefer the most:
-
islamic DLC - all islamic nations on start date including albania
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Mongol DLC - a less expensive DLC, for mongolia, mengjiang, and the kumul khanate
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south-east asian DLC - the DLC we will get soon
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caribbean DLC - a less expensive DLC, for all the caribbean nations
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Allied powers fixup DLC - new focus trees for U.K, france, and U.S
this is a question for everyone if you were wondering
- None of the above
no paradox needs to stop with country dlcās and fix the late game performance and all the bugs in the slop theyāve already released
no new content
a Caribbean dlc that gives cuba a focus that they can do on 1936 that instantly annex all of latin america and works 100% of the time to reduce game lag
TBH there's still 1-2 years of content in HOI4
USA needs a rework BADLY
and a couple other majors could use a touch-up, even if not a full rework (France, sPAIN)
personally i disagree
ain't people gonna cry about pdx selling them stuff they bougt a few years ago
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i have a feeling LaR will integrated next
hoi4 is 10 years old
it's already physically difficult to add new mechanics and rework the old ones
there's still countries that could use a rework
if all the majors had content like germany maybe id agree more
but even then some features are neglected
we can add as many countries as we want and we can add so many new focus trees
but the focuses for everyone is not the goal
suppose so but there's majors and other countries that do have content that hasnt even been touched in years
id say at least rework it
instead of just abandoning it
and the engine is almost 20 years old
its updated for every game
just not changed in name since its not available to other game devs or publishers anyway
still the tech debt must be absolutely insane
and it still lags like shit late game
I pick all
3 lmao
nobody is seriously choosing anytthing else
but out of the other 3, probaly mongilia
I like all 4
Islamic dlc... That sounds familiar... Like... a graveyard of empires if you will
The kumal khanate has a focus tree already
Tree part is generous
but czech has one also
Does the tiny breakaway nation really need that large of a tree
When the standard warlord tree works
all islamic nations on start date including albania
So... Graveyard of Empires 2 Electric Boogaloo?
The first one went well, time for another one
absolutely not
you could somewhat justify mongolia and mengjiang
Exactly
but kumul is just beyond stupid
People when they say Aussa has a unique tree: sir, it is the generic in the region
i mean tbf no one plays any other country in that region except for aussa rarely
i highly doubt more then like 10% of the playerbase has played an aussa campaign past like 1940
Ive never played an Ethiopia game past the italian war
neither have i
let alone aussa
i played it once as a joke and won the war cause italy went into civil war
Celtic dlc, let me play as guerilla ireland
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Not like there really is anything to do beyond the Italo-Ethiopia war anyways
"Bbbbbbbbbut we gotta eat" they got shareholders my boy.
True
I donāt think we want a DLC for every country though
Like who will play countries like Lebanon, Yemen, or even Bhutan
depends on how they would make them
i for one would definitely play yemen or lebanon if they had a decent tree
Yemen could actually be cool
Though Iād prefer Oman
strait of hormuz/the neighbouring sea (contested name) dlc
and the strait of uhhh the one next to yemen
strait dlc fr
Moreso bc it has British guarantees
yemen also had an agreement with the uk in 1934
Not in game tho
afaik its when they ceded najran to saudi arabia
Can technically core Africa but takes until 1980 and like 20,000 political power
Tbh, i prefer tech extension
Wish the African Union was done better
This achievement will be crazy hard
We didn't want to fill the achievement pool with all super difficult achievements this time out, though we did want to add one really tough one. 
It's hard, but there will probably be some strats that will be discover post release that will make this more manageable. But I won't spoil the ones I found in my own play testing.
Yeah i was about say there isnt any stupid world conquest achievement
Gj on that
The achievements look very nice overall
There is typo in that Achievement. It's clearly reference for popular czech series "Pat and Mat", but the word you are looking for is "Kutil", plural "KutilovĆ©", which is translated to english as Handyman. KuńÔci is not a czech word at all, sounds like bad LLM translation š
It's not a typo. KuńÔci is the name of the short in which Pat and Mat first appeared.
Is there a fall of Prague event? Or Czechs entering berlin or other nation?
Grand Battleplan with trench focus š
Berlin one would be cool
Yep or Moscow one
isn't it too op or somethin
You just copied me broski
SABOT was kinda OP irl tho š
I started writing before you did š
I donāt mind it since itās behind a special project tbh
Train MIO is really cool too. So hyped for this. Still wish we had a train designer š
They can colonize Africa
(I only know this because of vic3)
It's been slightly adjusted which will be seen in a fellow up patch. Mostly removing the fort damage from combat since that is a dead modifier in this context, and the mistake of Artillery being listed twice which was an oversight I only caught recently. It's wasn't my intention to make something OP or something that is a must do Special Project for this. So of course we'll keep a close eye on this and adjust accordingly if it proves to be problematic.
Though I don't want to have a change interrupted as 'they release something OP and then nerf it š”' of course that is not our intention. Just want to say we do care about the balance implications of a new Special Project and will react accordingly since that's just good practice full stop.
Isnāt the whole point of Special Projects to be impactful?
Correct. With that said the MP community (rightfully so) are very passionate about things that can affect builds and META. So I think it's always good to keep a healthy amount of their feedback and opinions in the back of the head.
Can specific special projects be turned off for MP?
IMO game should be designed for singleplayer in mind, not MP
Not without a mod
It's very much designed with SP in mind.
If special projects are too OP for MP, then they can easily mod it away
Yeah
Think the addition of sabot is great tbh
Hopefully one day Cold War infantry equipment becomes a special project
Hello, how do I get to the rocket vehicles like the Soviet Katusha?
Do Artillery tech -> Rocket artillery tech -> Motorized artillery tech
i did not know paradox was a publicly traded company but their shareholders must not be too happy that their stock price is at the same place it was in 2019
maybe they could fix that by not releasing straight up slop for every dlc
The wet-mash leftovers the piggies like to suck up and enjoy like a 5 star meal
hell yeah
Iām ngl those buffs seem 90% useless
Hope the Hungarian invasion of Carpatho Ukraine is added
@hollow lion would Poland be getting similar bonuses, to the new Germany focus of integrating Czech industry, if they go on Habsburg path and unite with Czechoslovakia
they have a focus "join Czech industry/military" which just give some mills/civs now, would be cool if it also gave mios and some other bonuses, as what would happen in the alt history scenario of them uniting
Hmm, at the very least access to MIO/concerns wouldn't be too hard to implement... I'll look into it. No promises of course. Don't get your hopes up.
alright 
it should be
even if its just an event

If things are historical up until that point I don't see why it couldn't happen 
will there be an event for it maybe? šš
Content like that if it exists tends to be done through an event wouldn't you say?
But maybe an event to declare war on a tag? 
Can't wait for the Carpatho Ukraine world conquests
Kinda surprised that there isn't an achievement for uniting Ukraine as Carpatho-Ukraine
probably should be like the kumul khanate event?
a rebellion that spawns troops
I think I'd get hate mail for that
i wonder if they'll start with claims or cores on the rest of ukraine
true is it a new country with a new id?
@hollow lion btw this doesnt apply to AT
AT is classed as infantry for buffs afaik
Will there be a focus tree incoming for Mengkukuo soon?
Don't get your hopes up about it
Probably will come with any future Mongolia or Manchuria DLC
Both "Czechoslovak" and "Czechoslovakian" are acceptable adjectives or nouns referring to the former state of Czechoslovakia (1918ā1992) or its citizens. "Czechoslovak" is generally considered more formal or preferred in scholarly contexts, while "Czechoslovakian" is a common variant.
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both the demonym and the language are slovak so why would the adjective suddenly be slovakian? same thing for czechs not being czechian
lol
the term slovakian mainy adapted from american english afaik while slovak was used by the british
it is czechoslovakian not slovakian mate
??
In Czech and Slovak language, neither of them called themselves as "Czechian" or "Slovakian"
this is mainly a affect of linguistic convention for south slavs that gets carried over to Czechs and Slovaks
the game is on english
Croatian, Serbian, Slovenian etc
but that does apply to south slavs not to Slovaks or Czechs
not chech or slovak
British never called them as slovakian nor czechian either?
but called them czechoslovakian
that was adapted from american english
not the british english
as I said this noun was used for south slavs
which is a noun convention to be used for south slavs
which does not include czechs and slovaks
well english is not even my native language so why am i even talking about it š
you are probably right
czechoslovak republic
both are right anyway though (czechoslovak and czechoslovakian)
I think what he was trying to say is since the word is czechslovakia, and since its an added form of "czech" and "slovak" that it should be called "czechoslovak" not "czechoslovakian"
When a new rework of France ?
Prolly about this time next year or when HOI5 releases
Yeah, because when u have no industry, with the best run, just always defend front the german or italy, or the others country have non historics runs, and france just have 3 focus for monarchy... Franchs want more possibility for have fun and play France (I don't talk about some historics fact about france and no disposed in the game)
speedbump nation doesnt need a rework
At this point its in league with the usa and uk
Which do somewhat need to a rework to match the other majors
feels bad when the RAJ loyalty path has more interesting empire defence focuses than the UK
Historical France is largely better than in the game
commie india with reduced infantry combat width+doctrine for the same thing is fun to do
The game doesnt really function if ai france can withstand ai germany
when u have new Czechoslovak tree, u can rework france
I recently did an akhand bharat gameplay and honestly the coring system felt smooth
france is just not that replayablr
kind of like russia
What drives me away from russia is that you have to do a civil war for alt his
I havent even played the alt communist paths
Next thing i'd like to see is a shared focus tree for commonwealth or joint chiefs of staff for allies
I've not the same vision, France can have better
commonwealth shared tree is a too wishlist
more 3 non historical focus for exemple
3 possibilities of non historical, in one image...
Whats the next dlc after Czechoslovakia? Siam-Dutch East Indies - Aussie?
compare with germany
thats 3 monarchist paths. Only country with more is Poland
The only viable one is napoleon
And that one is only playable once or twice
france needs a major expansion like germany
probably after us and uk rework though
no more possibilities I said, hisory is better
yeah
uk is same
need more options
for france, aviation is zero
The political paths are fine for France
but, history said other fact
no
every try ing is just boring honestly
France diserve beter
the french guy larping as the chilean king has more flavour
same for uk
S tier path
Genuinely
Definitely
hear the french comunity, all talk about the unplayable france
If you really want a better France experience there are good mods out there
Tbh i only ever play vanilla
So Asian countries that are really in the background deserve a better focus tree and DLCs, but France which is still a major power doesnāt get that right? Thatās messed up. Weāre supposed to just rely on mods lol? Like weāre not even allowed a REAL DLC.
For example, you can see panels for managing Adolf Hitlerās inner circle; given Franceās situation and its high command, we could have something similar thatās just one example among many. We French have ideas. You just have to ask, right? We deserve betterā¦
Considering a major country like France as just a buffer that merely slows down Germany (and even then lol, you basically get crushed in less than a day with all the bonuses Germany has) isnāt reasonable at all.
You mentioned mods, mods are a good example of what France can be worth in the game without āde-historicizingā things in a historical playthrough⦠Youāre going to tell me āwell just play with mods instead of bothering us,ā and my response is that itās about representation. The in-game France has been neglected, and the French community that wants to play it feels the same way. Iām speaking for themā¦
the issue from france is not that it's weak but that its tree is kinda pointless
france is pretty strong
you can beat Germany easily
but all of the monarchist paths not giving you cores is so ass
communist path doesn't really do anything nor does fascist
That's why I talk here...
why does italy gets to core Rome but france doesn't get to core french empire
but anyways
there are countries that need it way more than france
france is fine
meanwhile stuff like the US, commonwealth nations, Yugoslavia, Romania can barely count as playable nations
I can agree with you, but when I see that with the latest DLC the Asian countries got almost a complete rework, and now Czechoslovakia has branches for every ideology same for Austria⦠France, with its focus tree, its generals, ministers, admirals, high command and everything else, really pales in comparison⦠But hey, weāre supposed to just stick to mods lolā¦
so new update is gonna make subs not shit?
also seems to buff the ai a bit, ig thats good
old hoi 4 trees be like
We deserve more than a dozen generals, five admirals, 2ā3 aircraft types, and 130 warships. Generals like Jean de Lattre de Tassigny, Charles de Gaulle, Philippe Leclerc de Hauteclocque, and FranƧois Darlan all deserve better starting stats. When you compare their bonuses to those of Germany, Japan, or the U.S., thereās a pretty big gap.
Same goes for French aviation, sure, historically there was a delay, but it was much smaller than what the game shows. The French Navy was closely matching the German navy, and French fighters were nearly as numerous as the German ones.
its funny because not even all the generals got portraits
similary
france essentially has a default tree but they have flavour
industrial tree is useless
i dont even know what the army tree does
aviation and navy are basic
the political tree is outdated not bad
French navy is that ? Really ? Where u gonna take hisrical facts...
hi cat
ig we will get the french dlc in 2028
they are nepal tree before 
i would definitely play nepal tree ngl
if i really wanted to learn how to mod a nepal tree would be the first thing
Paradox, please rework france
before maroc, central africa
Even Belgium has a better focus tree
the french dlc ideally would have morocco tunisia lebanon syria and vietnam
thats what i would like
indochina should become a colonial puppet
tunisia and morocco into protectorates if im correct
yes
this is off topic, but if they changed the U.S, I would actually like more moderate paths
remove the fascist and communist paths
and add more internal paths, such as giving states autonomy
or centralization
not remove but a massive rework
especially reworking or even removing the confederates
never actually
because the game sort of seems to ignore factions within parties
the world hates france
such as, the democrats versus republicans don't matter that much in the U.S
well they do include it sometimes
but for switching ideologies no barely
I realize im not making much sense
Dear Paradox Interactive team,
In Hearts of Iron IV, France currently feels like it belongs to an older design standard compared to more recently updated nations.
The issue is not specific missing elements, but that the country as a whole no longer matches the level of depth and system design seen in modern content.
France would benefit from a complete rework from the ground up, bringing it in line with current HOI4 standards.
This would include a full redesign of how France functions politically, militarily, and internally, so that its gameplay better reflects:
its complex 1936 starting situation
its political instability and ideological tensions
its colonial empire and global responsibilities
its military structure and command challenges
and its multiple plausible alternate-history trajectories
Right now, France does not feel fully rebuilt to match the depth of newer nation designs, and instead feels closer to legacy content.
A full rework would allow France to become a properly modern major nation in both historical and alternate-history gameplay, rather than a transitional or underdeveloped experience.
usa is even worse
'objectively its better compared to france' i think they mean
yeah it's not so hard for me to undertstand some of the other languages
but
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english motherlover do you speak it
no it is very much not
what happened with putting capital letters in the patch notes?
the industry tree is quite strong, just takes time
its really not lol
the usa focus tree is like
useless
there's nothing in it
like france
usa is alone since 1941
usa have industry
from all majors
usa has way less industry than it should have historically or even compared to other majors
it starts with a lot of civs and that's it
but then for 3 years it can barely build anything
has no production buffs like cap increase
mid mios
and no expansion paths
i play better with usa than france lol
i mean, usa is definitely more forgiving because nobody can invade you
All they get is -10% cost on planes/ships
it's still better than everyone in the game bruh
They could still have a WAY better everything
you want usa to be not OP but OOOOOOOOP?
france don't have oil, but guyane have irl
its really not lol
france need defend in 1940 front boosted gererals with 30 percent attack witch focus and other
the game has a problem with overestimating german power and underestimating allied power
usa have navy, aviation focus
soviets, uk, germany, and italy are all way better than the USA
they can have half the world cored before usa can even move
uk can have the usa cored in 1938
how so
if we have 10 percent for attack or defend it's max
the usa can never core anything other than Hawaii and Alaska
does it make less powerful than any other country in the world
Military production during World War II was the production or mobilization of arms, ammunition, personnel and financing by the belligerents of the war, from the Anschluss in early 1938 to the surrender and occupation of Japan in late 1945.
The mobilization of funds, people, natural resources and material for the production and supply of military...
playing historically, Germany is way stronger than the USA. playing any path but historical? many many nations
french navy, one of most powerfull
uk have 17
8 military
15 civil
dude it's not france
it's png
one of most giant army yes, historic fact
but all is a 50 percent armed
lol
always bad bonus
usa as of 1936 has as much civs as all of the other great powers in the game
biggest steel, fuel, coal reserves
doesn't mean anything
ow really
you can mobilize earlier
me when undisturbed isolation and no mobilization
and even after building
use factories are just worth less per factory
and what country can actually do something for the first 3 years of the game
Japan
Spain
Ethiopia
literally every country that is not the usa?
China
Ww2 literally starts in 3 years
having the default focus tree for the usa
would unironically be stronger
like
much stronger
you would be having gun 3
you would be able to switch ideologies
you would be able to go to war
going fascist as the usa takes 3 years
you have infinite resources, manpower and industry
you have big аss fleet that can prevent any enemy from invading you
just sit for 3 years and build up your industry
than 1 year to mobilize and voila tanks go brrrrrr
no one can ever attack you from any side
im nor worried about anyone ever attacking me
i can have bigger core pop and bigger industry by that time as most other majors
the uk can have the usa cored by that time so like
just strictly better
This humble thing called the funny empire
yo
italy can have rome
chris
japan can core china
is this about germany nerf
no its about usa buff
i sleep
why is usa the weakest major
based??
Ppl in 2019 were grateful getting La Resistance
Yeah it was super fun when it came out and seemed substantial back then
Though now you can tell its age just as newer DLCās have innovated
Yeah. Deeming it as trash is laughable
2016 French tree is just sad
But i agree in that more historical contents can be added in general
IMO it can be fun. Communist is pretty beefy, and the 3 monarchists are fun though the Franco-Spanish union takes too much RNG
But Napoleon and Orlean are solid
+1 weekly stability with orlean is cracked
Mhm
Indochina needs more content than France
does anyone know if the new DLC gives indochina autonomy
the south east asia DLC
This is literally the best part of the tree. š Left tree has unlimited stability. Middle can unite with Span. Right can conquer Europe before Germany.
Yes
In 2018 you yearned for that
That was an insanely fun dlc when it came out. I know because I was there
Not confirmed, but i really hope that would be the case
Doubt
Focus tree length doesnāt equate to enjoyment or replay-ability
bwahahaha best part when you germany tree, belgium, usa
How are any of these relevant to the discussion?
Sorry Paradox doesnāt have an insanely long tree for France even though it historically got curbstomped by 1940
Unrelated but could we a queue for spy upgrades
With templates we can just click once and have it do it for us
Tbh if you ask me, with the current advancement of focus tree, the Free/Vichy tree can be hidden in the French focus tree
Just like Italy's RDS/RSI branches in its focus tree
Yeah though Free France would get muddled
Then you can add "has_capitulated = no" checks on some focus
I just donāt understand his point. He was saying France is bad because Belgium and Germany have newer trees?
I often find myself playing French monarchies again and again on ahistorical bc itās fun
I canāt understand his grammar at all
I think heās French
i think best tree in hoi4 is the red wood tree
But not a cool Quebecois French like Chak
why is vichy france not have its own tag
Tree was pretty old thatās why
why does spanish civil war
It was designed around it, France was not
Germany, Austria, Japan ideology tree
vs France tree
Yeah theyāre legit like 5-7 years newer
This isnāt the complete French Ideology tree. Youāre missing Democratic, communist, and fascist
monarchy or empire trees
No, the German one is their entire ideology tree š
Same with Austria
Same with Japan
plane german tree, I don't talk about bonus
france plane tree
bonus research speed only
Tbh Iād rather see USA get a rework before France
France is Atleast fun to play
Is it just me or are they just going east with DLC
Germany
Middle East
Japan
Czech (outlier)
The south east Asia one
Thatās what Iāve been saying from the start: I feel justified, and so does the HOI4 French community, in asking for France to be reworked and not just a little. Instead of treating me like Iām an idiot
USA is same yes
It has a tag alias, same as the Spanish Civil War sides
They kinda broke that rule with RGC (Wang Jingwei Regime) and PSR (Jose Laurel's Republic) tags for Musketeer
morocco and tunisia and indochina
Who treated you like an idiot?
That would be nice
does anyone know what the offical name for french indochina was
or was it just french indochina
indochina is good, nothing to tell about, french africa = no ressources (exept algeria), england have all
you
Quote me where. š
What mod?
Africa in general lacks resources. Itās been a longstanding community request for it to become richer
I make just now
no oil in Guyane
Ahh
Lategame construction-excavations tech and resource prospecting decisions would be much welcomed
Morowali nickels, here i comee
oh offical name for indochina was indochinese union
Tbh Iād rather France get a dlc like Czech is with its entire focus on just France. Then an allies DLC with USA and UK
I agree with you
Almost wish there was a French Equivalent of Together for Victory
None of this is a provocation towards Paradox; it's just that France is unbalanced today.
even less so with the new trees from countries like Germany or Japan
Idk, if you play as France itās quite strong. But the AI is pretty weak, ig to allow what historically happened to happen
25% planning is pretty cracked
The USA remained peaceful until 1941 and had the best industry in the world; it doesn't yet fit into the picture, in my opinion.
why don't they add path for kaiser wilhelm in netherlands
i agree, but player vs player, france as n change
USA should have double the industry as it does
At the very least
in 1940 ?
what a bout this
I donāt get what you mean
like they're playable
what about image for french rework
expand indochina
image I sent
French rework ?
Relearn has unlimited stability when every other French tree struggles with it and Napoleon can Conquer Germany, UK, USA, and Soviets very early
Plus De Luge focus buffs
witch rework ?
its funnier when you can do the democratic path, then become free france, then go monarchist tho
ayoooo
monarchist tree is cool, for stability lol
Yellow button at top
can't have focus for recup louisiana or quebec
why
for exemple
It undoās it if u want to
or what about if french indochina claims the mantle of real china
Would there be a reason for this
Stability dictates factory output and many other factors so yeah 100% stability even when getting bombed is really strong
unlimited stab is really like. useless at the end lol
so is the only finality of french monarchy ? stability ?
very cool
Why would indochina get cores on that though
Napoleon path doesn't give yoi anything
Its finality is that its way more stable than other other French tree so you are free to conquer whatever you want
pretty fun
because indochina mean south china
you could go communist and conquer everything just as much
or something like that
These trees might not get wargoals really but you as a player can still invade whomever you wish
It takes a shred of critical thinking to enjoy the French monarchy trees
(wargoals are useless)
So because of a name that u think the names means they get cores on all of southern china
napolƩon tree give you possibility for declare war, SUPER
no
I mean it could be path for french
to expand into chin
Thatās literally what you said
And extra recruitable 25% pop plus 3% recruitable percent
yes but it would be focus
Bourbon tree, declare war to spain, SUPER
French Empire recruitable buffs are the equivalent of going up an entire conscription law for free
france doesn't really struggle with manpower if you play properly
it has decent core pop
Wow truc de ouf, tu as lu le mode d'emploi ? 
again you can do that anyways
It kinda does mid game until you take out a few enemies
nothing stops you from justifying
Yeah and the UK can go to war with you by justifying. The 3 war goals plus the 2 puppets gives you 5 countries to annex from 1 focus
in same time u defend france against germans, italians ? with witch military industry you will equip your army ? give me tutorials pls
Just join the axis
French Empire can take all of these before they war with you. And if you do it quickly you can kill Germany before Italy joins them
u don't have the focus before 1939
germany have bonus and better army
use cheat ironman
Pretty sure you can take lowlands by 1938
not sure
70 days for all focus
again, "5 countries to annex from one focus" mean useless focus
I mean my bad you have to play competently and respect the dates rather than conquer and core all of Europe by 1936 š
Absolutely isnāt, this is ragebait
365day for constitution reviexw
? you can literally justify warsgoals in this game ypu know
Rush Const, then Full employment, then French empire
wargoal to long
what about france
Yeah so 1 70 day focus for 5 countries is better than taking like 500+ days justifying against each
Braindead argument
Yall doing too much the french focus tree is okay, the USAās one is much worse
Diminishing returns with subsequent justifications. The focus not only avoids guarantees but is also 5x quick than justifying individually
what if they give france and U.S the german focus tree
then it is big
Iām not disagreeing that France needs a rework. But saying itās a bad tree is objectively false
I believe they will both get reworked together with the UK at some point
It's not balanced compared to other countries + the new trees, you can explain it to me in simple terms, it's obvious
Whenever I play it I end up doing a WC idk š
by the time you get to this focus, you could've gotten wargoals done already lol with any fascist/communist nation
And be at war with the Alliess
italy has a focus that gives it wargoals against all of Europe
"the allies" being the uk which you invade and cap and get half the world for free
like be fr
Though France Geographically is in a much better position to capitalize on European wargoals. Could easily eat the lowlands and Iberia for free. Italy canāt really expand apart from the Balkans easily
The region between India and China
Thailand and Myanmar are Indochinese too
italy can kill france easily and go from there
Genuinely isnāt as easy as it used to be
Itās not easy stfu š
Only on Yunnan and Liangguang (the two Guangs), no further
france has the disjointed government
which makes it super free
like even if we ignore paratroopers cheese
its still free
you naval invade
and kill them
Yeah majority of players would benefit from French expansion over Italian. To succeed as Italy you atleast need to be competent
that is also true for france
France steamrolling everyone especially weaker neighbors would be too easy
It has direct land borders with Iberia and Benelux
Even moreso as Italy bc theyād try using their defunct militias
getting Benelux and spain early doesn't give you all that much
you don't get cores and don't have time to do collabs
so like
Apart from Southeast Asia, like 60+ ships and the Congo š
anyone balkan wanna start a new save?
Enough to then gobble UK, Germany and USA
meh
again you can do that without anything
that's not an argument
Yeah itās way harder without the resources and ships
homo
way better
france shit
Just do UK order 66, the empire then form Europe
yugoslavia best country
Je t'ai pas demandƩ ton avis, crache ta francophobie ailleurs
ok
Frenchie said he agrees
Realistically though, if France got as substantial of content as Germany or Japan. It would probably get huge debuffs till like 1941
its got potential
I mean militarily kinda how Germany has Land/Air/Sea debuffs at start
it just has a lot of enemies around it
Not just manpower and doctrine
the French industry tree is pretty good
one of the best
im only complaining about political paths
the political paths are the issue
both for historical and non hist
why does the france historical path end with joining the allies
in a game that is all about alt history
why does the game assume you lose
that's i'm talking about the start
the only thing i want for france military tree wise, is to have a focus that gives infantry weapons research bonuses
that's it, that would make it perfect
Yeah no way the industry wouldnāt be nerfed hard at the start. Not just with factory output but more
Reworks are never just one part of a tree
I already know France will start crippled and you have to crawl out of it. Deciding to have a strong military or stronger industry by the time Germany invades
Hopefully not with a balance of power between Infantry/Forts and Mechanized/Tanks
If no scratch that when France gets another dlc and rework id like if they took the time to revitalise Yugoslavia and Romania theyāre showing their age that war efforts alone canāt really fix
Yeah theyāre pretty rough
What
French anchluss?
American anchluss?
American MEFO?
MEFO, NATO, close enough spelling
canada
algeria
petrodollar
what about belgium
Historically northern Catalonia
Pyrenees treaty gave France the County of Roussillon
rhine is not french speaking thi
french with Germany focus tree would be annexing all french speaking places
they wanted to annex it tho
Saarland maybe?
like the whole place no, thats why they wanted like all the output from it
French focus tree is trash with literally no content
It ends in like 1940, all the non political focuses are outdated doctrine bonuses and research bonuses which is on par for old forus tree
The politcal focuses are super boring espescially for a nation like france which could be so cool especially like communist france, for example orleanist france with focuses such as clear the slums and thats it
what if the map in africa had more colonial puppets
turkey is red but thats besides the point
tunis is not needed
but besides that
i dont see a point if they dont add content to them
look at transjordan for example
also I agree with that also
but its a world war two game isn't it
atleast a lazy shared tree would be good
the only thing tunis could have is like a mapuche chile carthage scizo path that youtubers would make a video on
but its paraslop so we wont even get that
I don't think any colonial puppet with the exception of egypt, a potential indochina, and palestine? should get focus trees
and maybe only egypt
but, I think it would be more fun for a colonial focus tree for the overlord
such as expanding or annexing puppets
I agree
Egypt and Indochina yes, but if we want to have another British colonial tag, I would think Burma rather than Palestine
palestine could be interesting if they did something like Rt56
but given how much controversy that area brings in media i wouldnt be surprised if paradox doesnt ever bother to touch it
If you count the Free French focuses, it ends in 1942
Which is not bad, but can be extended to 1948 with filler military/industrial focuses at least to be honest
At least the historical branch should have it
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Old joke from 2014
Btw, just asked a few Vietnamese acquaintance of mine about a good Vietnam/Indochina vanilla mod outside of Road to 56
Apparently there are none
Indochina/Burma/Malaysia/New Zealand rework DLC next please
What time will the DLC be released?
NCNS released around at [whatever your local time is + 10 hours] last time
So I assume something like 10 hours from this message would be a good starting point
I am expecting 4 PM CEST (GMT+2).
how many hours?
are people really that dumb to ask question that have been anwered a few times already every single day just to annoy devs?
š
so glad I quit HOI4 last year
proceeds to visit game community months later
daaaamn reddut is such a nice place
you can be ver annoying and toxic person and get so many upvotes
4 hours
4 hours and gates of hell will open
4 hours?
heaven
update is better than the dlc
hoi players when extra content= š š„ŗ 𤬠š¹
I mean, if you ask me, PfoT continuing Czech or Slovak contents in DoD would be nice
But well, it is what it is
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It's disappointing that we aren't getting Slovakia content, but honestly it is a bit counterproductive to complain about not getting something that wasn't promised in the first place
It being so geographically similar to Czechia, and not even being a starting country in 1936 ultimately means even if it did get a tree it probably wouldn't be fun or worth it, just a weaker Czechia
it might still have content 
like bolivia has content but no tree
generic tree is strong anyway
Well... it was more complicated.
In 1919, Czechoslovakia was intended to be a state of two equal nations - Czechs and Slovaks. Sadly, there was one minority larger than the Slovaks: the Germans. And the Germans were not very loyal to this new state.
As a politician, you simply could not explain why the third-largest group should receive autonomy while the second-largest should not.
So Prague decided to promote the idea of one "Czechoslovak nation" with two branches - Czech and Slovak. It solved the problem of how to refuse autonomy to the Germans in the Sudetenland, but it also created tensions with Slovaks, who felt betrayed. That was the initial situation in 1936.
Apart from that, there was nothing particularly important about the Slovak puppet state. It was created in March 1939, there was a 2ā3 month uprising in 1944, and that was all.
Even nowadays, Slovakia does not consider itself the successor of this wartime state, but rather the successor of pre-Munich Czechoslovakia.
That has nothing to do with how Slovak content would function in game though which was what I pointed out
except some of their nationalists dont
What I found outrageous in the original DoD DLC was how much potential of the Czechoslovak Legion was wasted. Czechoslovakia had many former Legion veterans with valuable experience, yet in the original focus tree they were reduced to a single focus that gave a Volunteer Force modifier. Nothing else...
Our nationalists (yes, Iām from Slovakia) are honestly laughable. They praise the wartime Slovak state, consider Jozef Tiso our first president, and claim he was merely a victim of a communist show trial. At the same time, they constantly shout about sovereignty.
But whenever Viktor OrbƔn refers to all of Slovakia as FelvidƩk, or appears with a map of Greater Hungary, they remain silent.
Just a pathetic bunch of clowns... š¤”
I would much rather get luxembourg focus tree
Just a heads-up that we're doing a livestream on Peace for our Time right now, if folks are interested! https://www.youtube.com/live/NpfpK98DJC0
138 likes. "Release Livestream - Peace for our Time"
Luxembourg should of got something similar to Iceland when GƶtterdƤmmerung, but thatās long out so the time has unfortunately passed
Just to be sure
The division designer changes are NOT coming with this dlc, are they?
i wonder if there is anything about soviet-france-czechoslovak relations
except this one event with czechoslovakia asking france to help and then hearing loud NO in response š
are there any mp games going on?
is the dlc live yet
no
its with TaoG
in about 20 mins

because smart ai means more challenging and balanced game
the last dlc i bought it was by blood alone ppbly
because ai is dumb has bad designs and bad planing and bad builds and decisions while even noob players can pick better choises and stuff
like ai picks advisors for stuff they never use sometimes instead of the best ones
How much is it gona cost?
your soul
I have no soul i sold it
oh
I sold it for all hoi4 dlc exepct graveyards of empirers
where is the dlc paradox...
6 dollars most likely
K
yep
Which is insane tbh
Yea
6 dolars is not that much
Well for smth that doesnt add any mechanics plus we alr have a ton of czechia mods
bavaria mentioend
me when I think of Czechoslovakia

Why am I not getting the latest DLC with my subscription
And now we wait for Thunder at out Gates.
when i start hoi4 although i have the dlc, it isnt loaded, why?
bugs at our gates
Any secret paths ?
The dlc JUST came out man
shhh its a secret
So yes
maybe
how many focuses is there?
don't know
Okay I get it now
at least 10
tried relaunch steam?
actually it might be around 50-100 in a guess
oh yeah really? i tought 5
im currently verifing files, but ill try, thanks
Does Slovakia has any content? I heard a guy got banned ln forums for asking this question so I'm interested
Mods ban this guy
verify and relaunch worked
new option for germany
3 positive national ideas
And the Slovak National Uprising in 1944 was loyal to the legitimate Czechoslovak government
Take it or leave it
just check specific Focus file in Localization, it should be in your PC even if you don't have this DLC...
What's the difference between this and setting up Bohemia Moravia later through the Reich Commissariat decisions?
nothing
I'm on a polish-belarusian border kilometers away from my PC
I've seen no such thing on my end in terms of people being banned, odd
So I cannot
What are you doing at the Polish Belarussian border
Trying to get to the EU š
Protecting it as my duty of a polish soldier
actuall the puppet gets more compliance but thats it
2? I am sure only 1 remain...
yes 2
this is new also ig
1939 start:
Ping me when yall find secrets
k thats insane
Well... in few hours we will update our czech translation project. š Should be funny, how many "hidden" events and focus have their localization strings in files...
Once I found one removed event in Gotterdammerung event files. About Adventures of Tintin š
Yeah I saw that, really nice buff. What would that equate to for daily compliance?
.3?
We are also of course correcting any mistakes in local naming schemes that are fixable that the Czech playerbase has pointed out. So the suggestions so far and the ones that will come in the future are very helpful.
Really excited to play this DLC after work
Can anyone tell me if thereās any hidden content/trees/leaders
wtf
The black market knows no bounds
Do you guys thing its worth it to buy peace for our time?
i think it could be cheaper if it“s focus tree only for one nation
Woo, Paradoxs first mostly positive dlc on Steam, PfoT seems to be doing alright
give it some time. im predicting it will be 50/50
Ofc people are complaining about the very steep price ($6/Ā£5) already lmao š
6 euro for copy of hungary tree
How is it in any way related to the Hungary tree
devs how does this actually work??
*5 really
Huh?
No 5.99
I guess Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Finland?
is 6
Forgot Iceland had a tree
I don't understand exactly because couldn't they have just taken longer on the DLC to add more content
Tbf Czechoslovakia is about as big as Iceland and Denmark combined
unless it was rushed
It wasnt rushed
because this dlc is not meant to be about slovakia maybe
š
no seriously
when they announced pfot they made it clear that this will be an experimental dlc focus on one single country
because people were not happy with several counties focus packs, like bftb and toa
they repeated it several times
and now people say that's bad
ā ā ā
really liking the MIO stuff during first czech run
iceland?? new iceland content??
nuclear missile š„² š¢
I might had gotten carried away with it
People were not happy due to the quality of the content, not because the pack included multiple countries
i.e. GoE
I like no compromise no surrender but it cost a lot
although it may just be because I like china
so they made smaller pack to insure it will be perfect in terms of quality
tbh NCNS is ok imho, the main issue is how they broke the naval AI on release
why aren't they updating the base game?
The hoi4 community is the kind to get spoonfed exactly what they asked for and then complain that they got that. A lot of people just complain for the sake of complaining
didn't even notice because I don't know how to use the navy
šÆ
it seems to be a common problem with community's wanting more
some games even give free updates
and people still say they're lazy
The hoi4 community would lk complain if the dlcs were free atp
The mind boggling part is, you are releasing a major DLC focused around a major country with a strong naval focus, that historically fights against another major country with strong navvy... how the hell you don't notice you broke the naval AI?
the way i'm reading the reviews it seems like yet another banger from paradox interactive āļø
is there a new update?
gonna be riding this one out, doesnt seem worth taking 5⬠out of my bank account lol
does the dlc add new stuff to only czechoslovakia or also for other countries?
is bro living under a rock
only to czechia
i was making a chair
uh yeah a dlc released to day
seems like it's the usual slop high quality content we've come to expect from paradox, at least from the reviews
even when modders made a dlc
it's still pdx who releases slop š
its been out for 2 seconds theres no way to make an honest review by now
they nerfed czechoslovakia so much
Should probably watch a YouTubers review on the dlc or something, a lot of Steam reviews are as slop as iSorrows slop channel
billion debufs literally for a nation that is gonna get eaten in 1938
ig, but also no slovakia content for a czechoSLOVAKIA dlc seems pretty bad
and, in the end, it's five bucks for a single focus tree
You can get rid of the debuffs and build a strong industry and do forts before being eaten
not at all worth it
you cant do all things at once and no one wants to play forts only if you go any kind of faction its like going into a dead end also why you reduces the divisions to just six to look like you have manpower from the start?
A Slovak said that this is cheaper than a soda on his place
In my place, with 330ml Coca Cola bottle is worth 5k Rupiahs, this is the equivalent of 11 Coca Cola bottles
Better to save up money for TaoG
i can't really call this tree a slop
when your tree is so wide you need to lift the mouse to continue scrolling
yep. currently holding against germany in 38 on historical
Well, you can play historical until 1939 and then the game runs out of unique focus