latest-updates

[elder jackal]

Nice

[stable tusk]

The reason is that one of them (Peace for Our Time) is made by modders who are being paid by PDX while Thunder at our Gates is made by PDX themselves
PfOT is going to add content for Czechoslovakia while TaoG will be Australia, Dutch East Indies, and Siam

[coral drift]

The current state division is still like this (Riau and Westkust van Sumatra border is horrible)
So yeah, hopefully with more devtime, more provinces drawing and proper state division in the Archipelago

(taken from the Raids video in Devcorner #7)

ToA has Brasilia built earlier than IRL
Transforming Pahandut into Palangkarya ahead of time should be feasible too, but the current province is located inside Dayak-Landen (Inner Borneo)

[elder jackal]

I ❤️ no supply zone

[coral drift]

Eh, great place to defend

Just park your troops at Kalimantan, both on western (Entikong-Kuching) and eastern (Nunukan-Tawau) ends, and you're set

[fresh cedar]

I wouldn’t hold my breath on proper state division

[elder jackal]

Indonesian civil wars will be crazy💔😭

Prolly even worse then the afghan

[coral drift]

Eh, you also got Outer Islands releaseables

[coral drift]

At least in Sumatra
I know that separating Tapanuli from East Sumatra would be too much work
But at least draw the Riau-W. Sumatra border correctly
Both the 1938 or 1959 border works fine, but not this current mess

[fresh cedar]

New England is one state.

I don’t think they care enough tbh

[coral drift]

That's why i mean by "i'm alright with Tapanuli and E Sumatra being one state"

Banten merged with West Java is fine too

Or Bencoolen, South Sumatra, and Lampung lumped into one state

But the current build has Riau and W Sumatra separated, with such awful border.

[brittle venture]

thats like real life no

[fresh cedar]

No

[brittle venture]

they changed it?

[fresh cedar]

The Levant and Mesopotamia is one country in real life no?

It’s all just Israel

[coral drift]

Or Central Sumatra Province (1948-1957), no?

[fresh cedar]

Would be neat if state borders could shift mid game

[cosmic stag]

wish there was more techs and equipments past 1945

[coral drift]

Not possible
Hence the next best thing is to draw them properly

Making separate Riau and Westkust van Sumatra states is appreciated, but please give them a good border. Riau is too thin compared to the IRL maps

[brittle venture]

thats only possible with a new game

or like massive overhaul of the video game

[fresh cedar]

Just need special projects for Cold War guns/tanks

[brittle venture]

which might be more work than new game

[cosmic stag]

yes

agreed

if PDX doestn wanna add em in then we can do it ourselves the HOI4 MODDERS

[fresh cedar]

Like idk how an AK-47 is less believable than a nuclear powered ICBM Thermonuclear launching submarine

[coral drift]

Current industry tech has 20% bonus spread across 5 tech tiers
I say make it 6 tech tiers with 16% bonus for the 2nd tier onwards

[cosmic stag]

alr

when HOI5 comes out i wanna see em readd the Special projects feature mechanic

[fresh cedar]

It’s a cool feature for sure

[coral drift]

At least i can lock the modern prospecting decisions behind 1945 tier techs

Especially the coal-related ones

[cosmic stag]

yes it is agreed

they need to learn from hoi4

and readd a lot of the hoi4 stuff to Hoi5

[fresh cedar]

Idk if HOI5 happening? People have absolutely review bombed the last like 5 HOI4 dlc apart from GDR

[cosmic stag]

alr

[fresh cedar]

Had the Chinese revolt over Silk Road empire too

[coral drift]

I'd say, keep the vanilla vibes, please.

[cosmic stag]

alr

[coral drift]

Extended vanilla tech or reworked old mechanics is good. Separate, new mechanics isn't so much.

[cosmic stag]

alr

i really wanna PDX readd the Special projects to hoi5

[coral drift]

Millenium Dawn has too much bloat

[fresh cedar]

Most mods do imo

Used to just be fun reskins with new scenarios of vanilla

I genuinely don’t know how people enjoy TNO either

[coral drift]

Mhm
As a single-nation modder, i keep my own minigame simple and few

[fresh cedar]

Even KR was ruined with minigames

[coral drift]

Mainly revolving around societal improvements

[fresh cedar]

Trying to play HOI4 not Wario Ware Inc

[fresh cedar]

That’s the way to do it imo

I just hope this new dlc doesn’t have a lot of RNG

[cosmic stag]

we need more Special projects past 1945

[coral drift]

The independence paths opened it up later down the line compares to the colonial ones.

So if you went revolutionary, you can focus on the actions first. Only after you are economically strong you can do the minigame.

But if you stayed with the Dutch, you can spend early game on the minigame since you have the colonial support.

[fresh cedar]

Biggest gripe I had with Congo is you lose 3/4 of the tree if you don’t stay with Belgium

And you can’t even really develop resources in the conquest routes

Should be similar to yours

[coral drift]

Should've unlocked it anyways if you are economically strong enough? Like, 20-25 civs and 30 factory overall?

I've thinking about this for the past week, sadly i did not own GtD.

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

Wonder what they had planned for Sokoto and Israel since they got unique leaders and portraits

[keen totem]

my biggest gripe is that it isn't the same color as belgium when it isnt independent 😂😂

[pastel flume]

i mean rn in the game the nigerian-cameroon border is the modern one and not the colonial one

also south africa has lesotho and swaziland

still wild how tanzania is still a single state yet kenya can be split in 4

no zanzibar either

also the modern borders being used in the middle east

especially british yemen

[fresh cedar]

This is kind of my point. Why are some states so broken up and others not

[pastel flume]

like burma got so many states in goe

also somehow has more airzones than turkey or metropolitan france

theres an entire airzone for a single state

[fresh cedar]

Feel like the France one is for AA lowkey

I don’t mind large airzones bc AA becomes brutal

[prisma orchid]

The AI for india is really bad for the mughal empire ahistorical option. they get rid of their elephant divisions, never try to take potential cores properly(because they don't get the claims ahead of time) and tend to get a bunch of princely puppets that they can't retake over. Hope the devs can fix this in the future, they managed okay in GoE, but the newer updates made it a lot worse. Only way to even partially fix their AI is to turn them into your own puppet and manually take over and give them afghanistan, sinkiang, iran, etc. one war at a time.

[green scaffold]

i mean the ai never manages almost any formable

idt its supposed to

the princely puppets are stupid tho

there should be a focus to integrate them

[keen totem]

agreed

i honestly think they should've used the peace out mechanic more as well for india

capping the raj should be enough

[green scaffold]

yeah, waiting 12 months after capping the raj sucks

at the very least you should peace out after capping burma

[hollow coral]

I hope they add more African kings though

[dense apex]

Is strategic bombing overpowered still?

[pastel flume]

burma got 5 unique leaders and portraits in goe

[brittle venture]

dmeocratic ghana got one too

democratic ghana dlc confirmed??

[pastel flume]

he can become communist leader for congo

[brittle venture]

congo dlc confirmed??

[pastel flume]

barotseland, katanga, burundi, rwanda, and biafra also got portraits for their leaders

[brittle venture]

i should play congo again

i only remember it as a bad experience though

[pastel flume]

its painful to play as

but its easier to form african union than ethiopia

[brittle venture]

ethiopia gets army buffs

and king of solomon compliance

[pastel flume]

yeah but technically you can integrate all of africa with one decision

you can technically do african union as congo in 1939 start date

[brittle venture]

hot take but id rather have big compliance buffs than cores

like 100% of the time

[pastel flume]

thats what anarchist spain needs honestly

also it should be allowed to core states that have the resistance mechanic turned off

like impassible states and states w/o cores

they should add sao tome and principe relesable

they already added other former portuguese colonies like timor leste and cabo verde

i meant sao tome and principe

thats like one of the few nations irl thats missing

apart from like south sudan

[brittle venture]

south sudan is pretty recent idk if theyll add it

[pastel flume]

Yeah probably not but maybe to distinguish the non Arab parts of sudan

They just made all of arab sudan now be cored when forming arabia

Before it was just the northern sudan

[charred hare]

Has the Mengkukuo focus tree been considered yet?

[hollow coral]

nope

Doubt they would add it in a patch

Probably a mongol themed dlc

[brittle venture]

10 year anniversary dlc fr

or update

[charred hare]

Ill be waiting

In the shadows

But Ill be here

The spirit of genghis

[hollow coral]

impossible

10 year anniversary better have a portrait pacl

[brittle venture]

60 dollars

[coral drift]

TAOG is the 10 year anniv DLC

[whole arch]

Watch Paradox release Warships and it's somehow the most broken dlc of theirs

[edgy walrus]

Yes, they should, it's the last Portuguese colony without cores, and also the unique African state that doesn't get decolonized when activating the rule Africa Decolonized.

[edgy walrus]

There are other African current countries that are not present in the game as releasable, like Swaziland, Lesotho, Mauritius, Comoros and Seychelles, apart from South Sudan.

I hope they add them if some day they rework South Africa.

[cosmic stag]

cant wait to test out WOTP

[crimson tartan]

bruh
who put the coffee cup on the damn report

[peak flame]

Coffee? On our Warspite? Tea!

[crimson tartan]

oh i forgor this is about tea drinking nations
my bad 😉

[wise oxide]

we dont need new content just fix the old mechanics😭😭🙏🏻

make the gameplay better

[whole arch]

Zawg you are NOT supposed to say that here lmao

[pastel flume]

Yeah it's weird that Sao tome is the only thing thats remains when Africa decolonized it should rn be given to Angola or Equatorial Guinea

[edgy walrus]

I posted about this in the bug report many time ago, but they ignored it. Maybe it's time to report it again.

[slow arrow]

nice pfp big fish

[pastel flume]

I think you can just bump the post

[pastel flume]

huh i guess you dont get attack bonuses on the new warlords as the usa

[coral drift]

We need new content, using the already-implemented mechanics or event sequences

There, I fixed it. Would love if the Colonial Crackdown/Revolution in the Indies would also played like the latter stages of the Italian escalation when the releaseables are declaring independence

(tbf we haven't seen what happened in the latter stages of the Indies Escalation)

[crimson tartan]

what do you actually want to be 'fixed'

[coral drift]

Bruh, just checked the price of NCNS
It's actually tripled since my last bought DLC
No Step Back was 109k Rupiahs
NCNS was 339k Rupiahs

Please make TaoG at most Rp 109k

[brittle venture]

afaik the price stayed the same 😭

your currency is really bad

[coral drift]

Would admit that.

[brittle venture]

its tied to EUR currency value afaik since its a swedish company

so if your currency inflates compared to EUR the price goes up

[coral drift]

At least the gamenet pricing is still cheap, so i can continue updating East Indies Reworked, albeit not as intense as before 2024

Also wifi and electricity too for online.

But yeah, PC games are a luxury item nowadays

[brittle venture]

it sucks :(

[coral drift]

Mhm
At least i'm content with what I currently have, replacing my laptop's broken motherboard aside.

But I wishlisted TaoG

Also, checked
From my friendlist, the Indonesians who wanted it put it on their wishlist, while a friend of mine from Thailand and Malaysia are already owning it through Expansion Pack 2

[wise oxide]

mainly ai and i want snaking gone so combat the socond is balance to be somewhat accurate to irl

[topaz tapir]

bro's will Australia finally be good in Vanilla?

[hollow coral]

better than it is now

[crimson tartan]

'fix' something means there is a problem (aka bug) that needs to be fixed
these are not problems, these are changes to the game mechanics 🙂

[wise oxide]

horrible game mechanics

the game is getting better im not denying that

before communist china could snake and get shanxi and ma clique basically by snaking VP s now you can only win the borderwar atleast on historical and as china its a bit harder too

[brittle venture]

you can still snake / encircle

[wise oxide]

i know

[brittle venture]

it does take a bit more skill but you can do it the exact same way

manual justify

ASAP

[wise oxide]

but cant justify in time + noe theres so many warlords

[brittle venture]

you can?

you just skip the focuses

get army buffs and get down to the 4 mil spawn ins

way more valuable

[wise oxide]

before japan comes i mean

[brittle venture]

you can annex shanxi before

and like ninxia

[wise oxide]

as commie china

[brittle venture]

not more tho

yes

as prc

[wise oxide]

normal china can absolutely unite china very fast

[brittle venture]

im not talking about kmt china

[marsh sparrow]

Mp game huh

I could’ve played it was not at 5am in the morning

[eager prawn]

Will there be any changes with the arrival of "Warships of the Pacific"?
Like I mean we'll get a Fuso Ise and Nagato models
But japan only has "Fuso/Ise Class" and "Nagato Class" in the base game.
Same for USA with its battleships.
And will the Tone class from JAP be under construction at the start of the game?
(Suzuya aswell)

[tame ivy]

@pseudo wing theres too many hackers in mp

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hackerman-kung-fury-gif-7953536

[fading walrus]

this focus bothers me

why the hell on earth would Tsarist Russia reinstitute Serfdom when they abolished it in 1861!?

they would just get overthrown again

[crimson nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-aksuali-veli-vel-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-11908435316515627035

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/kiritwt-gif-23073193

[crimson nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/when-bro-when-bro-talks-when-bro-talks-a-little-too-much-when-bro-talks-too-much-when-bro-talks-a-little-too-much-so-you-silence-him-gif-16920938072506542055

[fading walrus]

Do you got anything other to do?

I’m suggesting changes

[keen totem]

i dislike the ussr focus tree in general

[fading walrus]

same

[keen totem]

NSB focus trees are so overhyped

the baltics are fine i dont play them much anyways but the USSR and Poland have had love given to maybe like some of their paths

[fading walrus]

Poland solves its govermental problems in 70 days by electing a monarch

[keen totem]

which is stupid

[fading walrus]

exactly inviting a king for a military dictatorship which recently overthrew a democratic goverment would cause a gazillion problems

[keen totem]

i myself am polish so i get maybe not everyone is an expert on their politics and whatnot but one of the fascist leaders in the game who hated germans in our timeline can buddy up to germany

[fading walrus]

I knew that

Dmowksi should not ally Hitler period

or Germany for that matter

[keen totem]

it'd make more sense if he allied with the damned soviets

anything over the germans makes sense

[fading walrus]

also he should die in 1939

[keen totem]

i assume for gameplay reasons this was changed

[fading walrus]

I would have it where Stalin could possibly force you too cede the eastern part in exchange for an alliance if you don't its off the table

[keen totem]

this was a big issue during the war too between the exile government and the USSR

sikorski when he was still alive said he'd be open to ceding either lwow or wilno but giving both away are a definite no

and he denounced stalins plans to move polands borders west as straight up insanity

[quasi harbor]

is it just me or is faction takeover broken? (without NCNS)

[lyric coyote]

??? If faced with the choice of Germany or Soviet Russia Dmowski would pick Germany 10/10 times

[keen totem]

he'd ally with neither of them in reality

but germany would be the very last choice

[hollow coral]

Dmowski treated Germany as the primary threat if im not wrong

[keen totem]

he did

during WW1 he wanted to get the Entente's and Russia's backing to carve out a polish state

[hollow coral]

would he still collaborate with russia though>

[keen totem]

very hesitantly if at all

[hollow coral]

dmowski line is beautiful though

instead he got stuck with being germanys dog

[coral drift]

Probably not as harsh as the original one

Should've had -5% stability debuff too

+1% rec is good
-10% cg factor can be decreased to -7,5%
-5% stab

[coral drift]

I remember that I've had a heated convo about Nationalist Poland in the 2/2 Polish DD

Like, their thing was that they would be happy to let go Kresy in exchange of getting Pomerania and Silesia.

The army would be stronger but you have less overall recruitable pop. Exact opposite with Prometheianist/Piłsudskist Poland.

In a way, Falangist Poland should be the tall playthrough compared to Prometheianist Poland

[fading walrus]

True would have preferred a agrarian themed focus in its place

[keen totem]

Dmowski wanted an ethnically homogeneous Poland, while Piłsudski and his followers in Sanacja pushed for his Intermarium project

[coral drift]

Yuup.

If that Poland would have less lands in the east, so be it

[keen totem]

Intermarium being the Federation/Alliance of Eastern European countries to resist russian and german expansion

[coral drift]

I know, that's why I brought up Prometheianism

[cosmic stag]

hello yalls

[keen totem]

the idea that russia had to be dismembered as much as humanly possible

it sucks how the only real good paths for poland are the monarchist ones

[coral drift]

Bruv, I lost my paragraph

[coral drift]

So, to reiterate
My first mod back in 2020 revolves around fixing formable nations
When i got into the PLC and reading up on Piłsudski and his Russophobic ideas, I thought that it would made a neat foreign policy path.

And how Dmowski wanted the opposite regarding the national identity.

[keen totem]

Poland during this time was very much in the hands of Sanacja and Piłsudski's followers

Rydz-Smigly was sorta the de facto head of state, Moscicki was just a puppet/figurehead of the Marshal

[keen totem]

Dmowski wanted nothing to do with any non-poles within the country

[coral drift]

Yeah, but to remaining commited to go east while you have the Germans breathing down your neck would be hard, lel.

[keen totem]

as stated earlier, he wanted a homogeneous Poland

[keen totem]

Yeah for sure

Poland's situation on start isn't 100% the most accurate

Should start with non-aggression pacts with the USSR and Germany, and maybe mutually guarentee France

[coral drift]

So:
Dmowski's path would be "tall path" going west, medium difficulty
Sanacja would be the plausible "wide" path going east, hard difficulty
This discounting the memes, btw

[keen totem]

Poland had an alliance with France since 1920 iirc

[coral drift]

@keen totem reading on the debates regarding the national identity makes me realized that Indonesia also had a similar debate around the same timeframe.

Sure, probably the "fantasy expansionist Majapahit under Sukarno" enjoyers would be mad if I pointed out that they got the wrong dude to lead it

[crimson tartan]

what's better
nato symbols or blobs

😛

[keen totem]

essentially yes

[keen totem]

no limit to the larp

[hushed lion]

Blob

[coral drift]

There are more fitting groupings than the self-proclaimed antifeudalist PNI

[crimson tartan]

some people say nato is better
i'm confused 😭

[hushed lion]

Well they are wrong

[crimson tartan]

noted ✅

[gentle python]

what is with tno and their tanks

theyre made out of paper

[sleek salmon]

latter is perhaps more useful, though former is more immediately readable to me

[hushed lion]

The mod wasn't made to be playable

[fresh cedar]

Turns out more modern MANPATS shred tanks

[runic bronze]

Isnt rhat just ethnonationalism

[keen totem]

pretty much

[coral drift]

Yes.
Nationalism is pretty much divided into two strains.
Ethnic and civic

[barren tusk]

Japanese are cooking with Paradox now VIC3 will add content for Japan lol

[spare epoch]

when there is 0 hype for the new skins dlc

like...who even cares about navy models? Most times i only see my navy from battle reports

[solid gyro]

nothing about the Personal leadership bug huh ?

[fresh cedar]

It’s a cool idea but yeah we’ll never really see them

I wish they’d do a Unit model dlc

I’d much rather change my divisions appearances tbh

Also would be cool if some countries units had different ethnicities for the same uniform. Kinda like how the horses change horse types randomly

And would like late war uniforms too 😂

Infantry Sprites > Ship Sprites

[keen totem]

most people id assume actively look at their units zoomed in

[keen totem]

america maybe?

france and uk i could see it too

[fresh cedar]

Exactly, a lot of opportunity

Or late war German units having different camos

[keen totem]

i like this idea

[keen totem]

this might already be a thing but im not 100% sure, restoring austria-hungary maybe brings back their blue uniforms?

cant think of many other examples

[crimson tartan]

imagine hoi5 but with detailed map like in eu5 😮

[solid gyro]

plus early war Americans with Brodie helmets

[thick edge]

Yes

Please

I LOVE bigger maps

Maybe tweak equipment a bit to adapt for a bigger map though..

[crimson tartan]

eu5 map as large as 12 hoi4 maps

[stable tusk]

If Hoi5 is ever to come out it needs a better engine

[crimson tartan]

what's the problem with engine

[thick edge]

Oh yeah 100%

[thick edge]

The lag is horrible

[crimson tartan]

but it's not the engine that doing it

[stable tusk]

Lag gets terrible after too long

[thick edge]

That is kinda true

I think it’s something like the AI making 3000 different equipment types

[crimson tartan]

engine is only about ui, sound, textures, 3d etc
it is not about ai, calculations or something

[stable tusk]

The engine isn't the sole problem but it still needs to get better

[crimson tartan]

well yeah, that's true
but hoi4 is 10 years old

wait

10 years!

[stable tusk]

Yeah this year is the 10 year anniversary

[crimson tartan]

every game that is 10 years old becomes obsolete 😔

[stable tusk]

Nah, Hoi4 is more popular now than when it first came out, you don't really get that with most 10 year old games

[thick edge]

Prob after the UK/FRA/USA gets a dlc we will get hoi5 as a more thought of idea

Hoi4 can still be milked more

[stable tusk]

It still has room to grow (and cash to milk) but with some better optimization it can last for a few more years

[crimson tartan]

i hope we will get rid of this with hoi5

why can't ai encircle it 😭

[thick edge]

Sheep’s mod my beloved

[crimson tartan]

the lack of operational level in the game is a crime!

[crimson tartan]

downloading dis

[thick edge]

It buffs AI a little bit

I recommend using vanilla with it

[cosmic stag]

we need a Reserves system in hoi5

[crimson tartan]

i wanted to test how ai will perform with dis mod
aaaaand german ai just researched 1939 tech by the end of 1938
aaaaand it was maintenance company that is not used in any template

[thick edge]

Check medium tank template maybe

(Not the div)

[crimson tartan]

wha

you mean this?

[thick edge]

Yes

[somber ice]

Hoi 5 hmm

[thick edge]

That 6th top modules is achieved by getting maintenance companies

[crimson tartan]

silly me 🤓

[cosmic stag]

i hope hoi5 also has couple few techs and equipments from 1936 to 1950

so we atleast get MBT tanks

[fresh cedar]

Would be cooler to differentiate early war equipment with late. But I mean German units specifically having different variations to camo just to spice up the unit models. Like yeah you can get some one special forces sometimes but

[plush moat]

Hello I found this mention in the changelog, what exacly was changed and what will be the effects?
"Made adjustments to how the game handles large lobbies to smooth out that experience"
This statement don't really explain what will the inpact on lobbies look like?

[eager prawn]

Is there any info on when will the update come out on the 17th? @pseudo wing

[pseudo wing]

Not at the moment, no, but things usually release either in the evening or the morning Swedish time, which is CET (or CEST I can never remember which one they're on right now)

[pastel flume]

why is he a south american generic?

[hollow coral]

Games likes to use south american generics for afghanistan and turkey

[marsh maple]

spanish spain

[tranquil urchin]

tuff

[quartz gull]

why do I inherit wars

if I knew that I would not take that peice of land wtf

soviets were apperantly fighting the japanese or somn

when I annexed the I inherited the war

[prisma valley]

Do we know if the update tomorrow is going to be save game compatible? wondering if I should hold off starting a new run until the patch drops

[keen totem]

they love spain so much they prefer two of them

[hollow coral]

They dont interfere with already saved games

[cosmic stag]

we need new vehicles for hoi4

[hollow coral]

do you mean different stats?

[hushed lion]

What new vehicles could you even add?

[crimson tartan]

truck #3
truck with extra wheels
truck with no wheels
truck with extra body
truck with wings
truck with blades

[hushed lion]

Truck designer

[coral drift]

Nope
More lategame techs, however....

[gritty lava]

Bicycle designer

Go to war on a unicycle

[brisk patrol]

hoi4 devs if you see this please post a dev corner about Czechoslovakia in a hour 🙏

if those modders are ready to show off content

[keen totem]

lategame techs are very much needed

[keen totem]

really excited to see it

[brisk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-earthquake-tremor-shaking-worried-gif-16077054

HOI4 : PEACE FOR OUR TIME IN 1 HOUR HYPE TRAIN

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-today-gif-14731534949278669964

[crimson tartan]

[hollow coral]

how do we tell him

[hard vortex]

so nothing new for germany navy ?

i mean yeah it's for pacific but nothing new for others country like idk destroyer or anything else

[brisk patrol]

i couldnt find a version that says announcement today

[fading walrus]

Artillery designer to make artillery worthwhile

[hard vortex]

maybe a boat / a module to " rescue " the crew of a sunked boat ?

[eager prawn]

update is out

[hoary sandal]

what does the update actually add

is it just ship models

[pseudo wing]

Warships of the Pacific is a cosmetic pack, but there's also a patch for everyone with some bug fixes and some other changes

[hoary sandal]

ok

[green scaffold]

mostly just navy stuff so might as well have been cosmetics too

[cosmic falcon]

And now we wait for Peace for our Time.

[cosmic stag]

yea

[fresh cedar]

Infantry cosmetic pack when 😏🤌

[cosmic stag]

i dont even need to buy the new cosmetic pack

i already bought the pass 2

[fresh cedar]

I get why they did the ships and it will enhance the game. But man, wish it was aircraft, trains, special projects or infantry models

I’m just not a big naval guy 😂

[cosmic stag]

alr XD

[fresh cedar]

I’d genuinely rather have a train pack

[hoary sandal]

i dont even care about the cosmetics

[cosmic falcon]

Imagine they added characters from Thomas.

[cosmic stag]

tho the pack only costs like 5 euros or usd

[fresh cedar]

Nah I just want armored train models and stuff like that

[hoary sandal]

5 euro is like

[fresh cedar]

Not even for infantry??

[hoary sandal]

enough to buy terraria on sale or something

[fresh cedar]

Isn’t that like $0.99?

[hoary sandal]

i do like the division naming system if that counts for anything

[cosmic stag]

i have and always will Buy ALL dlcs and expansions

for like any and all games

[fresh cedar]

Imagine interwar US units got Brodie helmet then their uniform slowly changes. I mean the game already updates guns, uniforms would be neat too

Like late war Germans having camo 😮‍💨

[fresh cedar]

I do just for HOI4. Even got the Sabaton and I don’t even like Sabaton

[cosmic stag]

alr

[fresh cedar]

Used to for Stellaris but kinda lost interest

[hoary sandal]

i think its funny how a division can have huge winter bonuses with a desert uniform

[cosmic stag]

@fresh cedar i dont just buy dlcs and expansions for HOI4 but for any and all other games

becus i need em

i dont like vanilla

[fresh cedar]

Dang

All I play is vanilla 😂

Used to spam play mods but just don’t anymore

[hoary sandal]

considering its 50 euro they definitely need to update the base game

adding the german historical tree to the base game was really nice

[fresh cedar]

The update will change the sprite viewer when selecting models Atleast. Friendlier UI

[thick edge]

Doesn’t vanilla get boring

Or do u mean some QoL mods?

Or pure vanilla

[hoary sandal]

thats not vanilla then...

[thick edge]

Ehh

[fresh cedar]

So I run the game Ironman everytime I play. But I have a few portrait/flag/party name/party flag/and UI mods that make it more historical and higher quality

[fresh cedar]

I think as long as you can run Ironman and things look as they should then it’s vanilla.

[fresh cedar]

But no doesn’t really get boring. But it’s not the only videogame I play

[cosmic stag]

hello i like how WOTP costs only 5 euros or usd

[crimson tartan]

oh nononono please nonono bro

😭

oh no please what's this 😭

[thick edge]

Sheep’s?

[crimson tartan]

yea

[thick edge]

Ok

[crimson tartan]

this guy is using only garrison order to defend his country 🤩

trust me bro you don't need frontline

[thick edge]

Finland holds a funny line near Helenski

Bare minimum to not cap

I would recommend bringing ur navy out

For a little bit of naval bombardment

[whole arch]

Gonna be really funny when the PDX haters start reviewing about the price on a $4.99 dlc

[coral drift]

I wanted it but the Indonesian economy can't support it lel

buying the expansions/country packs i mean

Zidan Maulana, the current foremost Indonesian HoI4 streamer, can afford it due to his nature of work

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah comparatively it’s much more expensive for you

[coral drift]

Mhm
NCNS' price in 2026 is three times the cost of NSB's preorder price in 2021

[fresh cedar]

Sadly yes. Though I still enjoy the content nonetheless

[cosmic stag]

bruh

i get 50 euros to spend on games etc each month

[thick edge]

50 each month?

[cosmic stag]

yes

[crimson tartan]

😮

[fading walrus]

Rookie numbers I have 900 usd to spend on games every month

[coral drift]

Gimme 100 and i'll replace my laptop's motherboard so i can return to modding

(/jk)

[gentle nebula]

Great.
Another useless DLC.

[fading walrus]

What did you expect

[crimson tartan]

he wanted brand new dlcs with 1000 focuses for every country in the game, reworked and new mechanics and 50 new music tracks on monthly basis

[keen totem]

tannu tuva dlc that lets you core the entire world with a 14 day focus

[fading walrus]

I mean it’s Tannu Tuva a litteral meme nation also they would have a Mongol empire path

Where you invite the leader of Menguko (I can’t say his name because I forgot) as prince

[keen totem]

demchuhdonggrub 🗣🗣

tannu tuva tree gives him his naval bomber trait back with a 70 day focus

[fading walrus]

I got the idea from a Mongolia mod where Communist Mongolia is overthrown and the new government invite demchuhdonggrub to take control of the country

[keen totem]

unironically a dlc with mengukuo, mongolia and tuva might not be a bad idea

[fading walrus]

Add Manchuko too

[keen totem]

would be nice

manchucko unironically is one of the most interesting countries in the game at least personally

ive given them another shot after they got a little touch up with ncns

its pretty fun

[fading walrus]

Agreed

[keen totem]

at least they got some extra stuff in NCNS but a full rework would've been nice

https://tenor.com/view/manchukuo-japan-china-manchuria-flag-gif-6678365688066142389

[fresh cedar]

What do you define as a useful dlc? Videogames are inherently useless.

[gentle nebula]

IDK, like, something ACTUALLY big and not just texture changes etc.?

[fresh cedar]

Ugh yeah the next big one is Thunder at our gates. This was never going to be big. Unit Model packs never have been 😂

[keen totem]

i mean if it seems useless to you dont buy it

there are people that might buy this dlc, thats cool, im not one of them

[fresh cedar]

It’s like going to McDonalds and ordering a 4 piece nugget and expecting a full Big Mac meal

[keen totem]

but maybe some people REALLY like boats

and want this dlc

thats cool, good for them

[fresh cedar]

Ngl I just want unit models

[keen totem]

id def be willing to buy a unit models dlc depending on what they add and how much

[fresh cedar]

Was kinda sad when the OG German Reich/empire models went away

[fresh cedar]

I like how the US Marines get like 3-4 skins. Just want more variability for standard units. Especially early V late war

[keen totem]

dont really remember how the old ones looked

[fading walrus]

German empire still wears picklehaubes

[keen totem]

didnt they phase those out in ~1917?

[fading walrus]

1916 and yes

But apparently not in hoi4 whenever you go imperial as Germany

[fresh cedar]

The old units used to be more grey

New pickelhaube looks like this

[keen totem]

style is more important than practicality anyways 🗣🗣🗣

[keen totem]

oh i remember now

[fading walrus]

True

[keen totem]

honestly yeah i like the old ones better

the more grey uniforms are just nicer

imo

[fresh cedar]

I like the new ones but just would’ve liked the option to select new or old. Not sure why they deleted

Bc tbh I prefer the grey

[keen totem]

me too

[fresh cedar]

Like the new one is good too but

When I think Germany in WW2 I don’t think of a brown helmet

Just would like the option to have the other 2 again

[keen totem]

it'd be nice

[hard vortex]

so what is the dlc like what the dlc add ?

[azure narwhal]

Vehicle models are incorrect now

They AI is using models of unresearched vehicles

[hard vortex]

so they added bugs with AI okay what's else ?

[azure narwhal]

Bad UI, why do I need to choose a filter to see what models there are? At first I thought that screen was glitched

Also, why its showing tanks I havent researched yet

[whole arch]

Everyone hating on the cosmetic pack dlc on steam right now about it being "useless" or whatever cracking me up rn.
PDX players hate just to hate atp

[azure narwhal]

I am ok with the DLC, what bugs me is that the update broke all other vehicles DLCs

I will only see the tanks I brought if I use the nation that have them now

[azure narwhal]

Wait till you see the american grey helmets and blue pants

[fresh cedar]

It’s very forced at times

[fresh cedar]

How did it break it? Doesn’t it just show every model now?

[fresh cedar]

Kind of my point. Wish standard infantry uniforms were updated and the US soldiers would have random nationalities too.

Going from Brodie in interwar to their iconic uniform later

[azure narwhal]

Yes, but now it somehow chooses tanks you havent researched yet

The PAID tank DLCs are now kinda useless

[fresh cedar]

How are they useless? Dont they still appear?

[azure narwhal]

Yes but in the wrong order

Anacromatic

They used to only appear after you researched them

Now it just throws the most modern model of its category and thats it

[keen totem]

they'll buy something that's completely optional and then get mad because they can

[whole arch]

truth nuke

[polar jasper]

Wasn't it always like this?

You could get the FV4005 on an interwar heavy

But can't put it on a centurion chassis lmao

[azure narwhal]

No I mean the standard tanks

The FV4005 is from the prototype DLC iirc

I know you can chance the model, but I mean what the AI is now using is not what it should be using, before it was normal

You unlock a new tier of a tank, and the models were updated on the "best match" thing

I gtg sleep, brb

[coral drift]

Lol
Sadly no separate ratings enabled for the patch itself

[brittle venture]

it always had that

[azure narwhal]

Now it doesnt, thats what I am complaining about

Its showing me models I havent researched yet

[coral drift]

Same for me
Haven't played the new patch, but usually the available models are the ones which corresponding tech i've researched

[azure narwhal]

Now the tech you unlock dont seem to matter much, its cleary bugged

Unlocked a tank and the model of the following research also got avaliable to choose

[coral drift]

I really hope the cosmetic pack's creators would not get further flaks

[azure narwhal]

I hope they fix it soon

[crimson tartan]

what if in hoi5 we will remove research slot and will replace it with some kind of budget
when you can research as many techs as your budget allows

😮

[fossil torrent]

How’s navy doing now in this patch for single player?

[unkempt ingot]

So, I checked out the free Essex-class template the US gets with Carrier Primacy now. Sadly, it is neither optimal or historical.

Real Essex-class carriers held 80-100 aircraft and were decidedly unarmored.

[crimson tartan]

hmmmm
i wonder why...

hmmmm
yeah i see

is this bots

why they all got 0 hours

[harsh hull]

Probably bots, yeah

Or else people who didn't understand that when Paradox said they would release a cosmetic DLC in the future 6 months ago, that they would release a cosmetic DLC 6 months later

A common misconception

[mild ledge]

Its a dlc

reviews for dlc

idk why but its probaly that

maybe cuz paradox uses a seperate dlc launcer

[crimson tartan]

i mean
the dlc itself is pretty good

just look at dis

i can even command fuqin howitzer

it's not even self propelled and i don't know how it moves

there is a whole goddamn airfield inside of it 😭

[thick edge]

So true 🗣️

[thick edge]

Ok I missed this one

wtf

What gives it that model???

[crimson tartan]

oh well idk
i just typed sp_research_all to see if this dlc works for me 🙂

i guess it is german super heavy howitzer

unlocked via special project

[thick edge]

Ok I know what I’m doing tonight

[crimson tartan]

oh nononono trainy you gonna crash into the helicopter noooo 🫣

[mild ledge]

how do you get that?

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-train-attack-track-wreck-gif-3870557921311530775

[crimson tartan]

train or helicopter?

train is ppbly base game
helicopter is gotterdammerung

[simple lodge]

I’m having so much fun as Luxembourg

Fracture the whole world and try and reunite Germany as Luxembourg

[azure narwhal]

@coral drift Good news

[coral drift]

Good, then.
Admittedly, the patch itself is flawed. But poor DLC just became a scapegoat

[coral drift]

I love Marmot-Herringtons.....

[hollow coral]

Wah wah wah the cosmetic dlc costs money

[harsh hull]

I mean, I don't mind it

But I would have rather had another of those cosmetic DLCs like that one that revamped the visuals of the Soviet Union

[coral drift]

@brittle venture, spammer

<@&846894118219022336>

[thick edge]

In a while hoi4 will sell map mods like vic3 has built in their dlc

[azure narwhal]

Equestria at War: €80

[fresh cedar]

@pseudo wing Hey Chak, do we have a rough estimate when a Peace in Our Time releases?

If I remember correctly it’s sooner than later

Like was moved up a quarter

Am I crazy or did the devs say it was coming out sooner?

[pseudo wing]

It was moved up to release before Thunder at our Gates but no actual date was announced, that's all

[fresh cedar]

Thank you! I thought that was the case just couldn’t find the announcement for it

So in theory could be day before or even an hour before 😂

[brittle venture]

hii chak

[fresh cedar]

Poor Chak is writing so much lately.

[pseudo wing]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Goldmaster-reaction-funny-sport-evVKsrjZEqVVWvE2VR

[brisk patrol]

PLEASE spread this message

id actually invest into another one like the good paradox consumer i am

[azure narwhal]

Did the other tank models got fixed or was it only for USA light tanks?

[coral drift]

Tetap semangat, para devs!!!
(Keep your spirit up, devs!!!)

[azure narwhal]

Hey Krasna, have ya tried the tanks of other nations?

[coral drift]

Haven't got the time to play since 15th

[azure narwhal]

Ah, right

[fresh cedar]

Really looking forward to the peace in our time one. If it goes well hope they do more

[crimson tartan]

ayo boys
what do you think about unique techs (advances akshually) and mechanics for certain countries in eu5
should we have something like this in hoi5

[hollow lion]

Like bicycles and camels in HOI basically?

And previously, cruiser submarines...

[coral drift]

And technically, irregulars and militias in vanilla

[fresh cedar]

Kinda already in game. Though a few were added for everyone with special projects

[brittle venture]

theres more

light infantry, mountain artillery, forest mountaineers etc etc

[coral drift]

Eh, sorry, thought we're talking about hidden tech that aren't available in the tech, special projects, or doctrine trees

[fresh cedar]

Such as Black Shirts/Stormtroopers?

[brittle venture]

those arent in those

[coral drift]

Yeup

[brittle venture]

theyre focus exclusive buffs to units

brasil also gets jungle pioneer thing

idk the english name

[fresh cedar]

But is a buff the same as like a unique unit tho

[brittle venture]

it adds itself as a tech

so idk ? blurry line imo

[fresh cedar]

But doesn’t really change how a division is composed such as a support company or line battalion

[coral drift]

This
I count unique battalions, unique support companies, and off-trees tech as "hidden stuffs"

[brittle venture]

id consider it more niche knowledge than just batallions

[coral drift]

But to be honest, i think a few of them can be a bit more genericized so that other tags can use them even if you still need the DLCs
The unique namings can be retained for the original countries

[brittle venture]

and special units

[fresh cedar]

Tbh flame support infantry should be a hidden tech for US and Germany

But I just wanna see the little sprites firing flame

[crimson tartan]

why usa and germany?🧐

[fresh cedar]

Two of the major countries to have flame units

[crimson tartan]

italy and soviets also had them

[coral drift]

Original developers?
Or already has enough capability to use them en masse

[brittle venture]

flamethrower equipment would be cool vs forts if forts meant anything in this game XD

ig coastal forts are important still

[fresh cedar]

I was thinking as a buff against forts and coastal forts yeah

[brittle venture]

but forts are already so pathetic </3

[crimson tartan]

oh huh

where is my photo

[fresh cedar]

I’m talking infantry though not tanks

[fresh cedar]

Probably said a bad word

[coral drift]

"M3 Satan" lel

[fresh cedar]

Flame tanks already in game. But flame infantry isn’t really a thing

Like if the US got a hidden tech that buffs Marines w/flame against forts

[brittle venture]

this will be great together with the malta DLC

[crimson tartan]

oh wait are you talking about flamethrower infantry or tanks

[brittle venture]

infantry

[crimson tartan]

uh oh sorry i thought about tanks 😟

[fresh cedar]

Infantry 😂

[fresh cedar]

Tenth Crusade will have defensive flame?

[fading walrus]

would the pope in 1936 even sponsor a tenth crusade?

The last crusade the crusade at Varna was in 1443-1444

The world had changed a lot since then

[brittle venture]

nah

[fading walrus]

Ottomans were a major player in 1444 in 1936 the Turks were still recovering after WWI and the war of independence

[fading walrus]

In some ways yes in others no

[fresh cedar]

That’s just what Fascist Malta is called

[fading walrus]

Ik

[fresh cedar]

I mean considering I just took the world as Roman Empire Papacy, probably?

[fading walrus]

True

[brittle venture]

i mean yeah it was around the time the Māori settled Aotearoa so it was a bit ago

[fading walrus]

Didn’t know that

[brittle venture]

14th 15th century? ish

[fading walrus]

I did know they arrived in new zealand between 1250 and 1300

[brittle venture]

could be wrong

by like a century

but its chill

[fading walrus]

Nervous Moa noises

[pastel flume]

honestly the uk should have the ability to core malta as it didnt even want independence in the first place

[drowsy umbra]

Uk really needs an update tbh they’ve had the same focus tree like forever

[hollow coral]

yeah you gotta wait for the $30 commonwealth dlc

[rugged vector]

$60 at this point

[keen totem]

truthnuke

[fading walrus]

hmmm

ship hulls got more expenisve but the modules got cheaper

[mental onyx]

I will not miss my advance light cruisers costing me 90 steel on 10 dockyards

[coral drift]

Splendid

[rotund cargo]

Modules beside armor or anechoic tiles no longer cost resources. So all the guns, deck armor, flight decks are free of resource charge 🙂

Hopefully, you will enjoy the change. 🙂

[polar jasper]

Holy smokes this is amazing

No need for me as the US to bankrupt the steel market because I decided to have 6 lines of carriers and heavy cruisers and 10 lines of light cruisers

Eh, probably still will, but not to such a severe extent lol

[rotund cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-obviously-duh-okay-yes-gif-6035524

[fresh cedar]

Honestly that was one of the main reasons I never really made ships

Specifically capital ships

[halcyon scaffold]

It's take too long to produce

[polar jasper]

That's why you have 6 lines of them so you get 6 of them in a few years

Not like it costs 30 dockyards lol

[fresh cedar]

Just wish you could put 15 on any ship

[polar jasper]

Well, I dont see the need

[fresh cedar]

Like irl you’re not gonna contribute less industry to larger ships

If anything destroyers should be 5, and battleships 15

[polar jasper]

Theoretically, arent they built from like 1 dockyard? Maybe 2 or 3?

And combine later

[fresh cedar]

I see ingame dockyards as not just like a single docking bay but industry dedicated to it

[polar jasper]

Ah, that makes sense

[fresh cedar]

Again though; why would small ships need more?

[polar jasper]

More industry spam can make them i guess

[thick edge]

Make it the mil limit

150 per ship

[fresh cedar]

Hell naw

[thick edge]

It will be hilarious

[unkempt ingot]

I'd imagine it's partly a gameplay conceit.

There's something to be said for the realism of "can't throw your entire shipbuilding industry at the task of producing an aircraft carrier in two weeks", but neither do you want the production UI to be clogged up with dozens of production lines for individual ships.

For smaller ships like destroyers, it's safer to allow for lots of yards, getting closer to the approximation of "X shipyards produce Y warships per year", but the limit of 5 yards for capitals forces you to plan ahead better for major fleet expansions.

[robust grail]

because they don't want to create a special type of dockyard for capital ship. So they just limit the number to replicate "technology difficult" of building big ass ships.

[mild ledge]

lets go

phillipines might be playable now boys

[mild ledge]

you literally cant make capital ships past like your first line of 39' hulls because of this

because by the time you finish your new battleship after that not only will it be completely outdated but the game will be over

[brittle venture]

small ships too XD

i remember a manchu game where i made the world ran out of steel for like 100 dockyards of CLs with gun 3

[polar jasper]

So, when will we have actual names for the models instead of just "Heavy Ship I" and so on

[whole arch]

the new naval balancing looks neat just reading over them

just need to find the patience to get into it now

[fresh cedar]

I think he meant like the time it takes to actually make it

I often don’t make larger ships as they take too long

[whole arch]

I think legitimately the only thing keeping me from playing Navy is the fact that I have to remake the designs at the start of every game, otherwise I’d probably do a lot more of it

[whole arch]

Is there any point making battleships though? I know most people just set them up as AA platforms with one module of the cheapest main battery they can get

[fresh cedar]

Shore bombardment, armor, dmg

[whole arch]

True, can’t you just set up heavy cruisers for that though as well? Sure its not as good but they are a lot cheaper

[hard smelt]

arent u refering to cruisers ?

[whole arch]

Dunno, half of the naval stuff homestly just feels like its a waste of time, rescources, and research to do when you can produce a lot of “good enough” cheaper ships

[hard smelt]

u can also use only submarines and ez beat ai

https://tenor.com/view/shimizu-esora-d4dj-d4dj-petit-mix-anime-submarine-gif-21654156

[whole arch]

I know cruisers are mixed like that as well, but I do know a lot of people set up BBs as AA platforms (specifically the ones they start with cause they don’t make more) just cause they can stack a ton of AA to cover the carriers n stuff bc they are so expensive to be putting at the front lines and stuff

I’m not a naval expert ofc but this is a strategy I’ve heard a decent number of people use

[whole arch]

Truth nuke

sub spam is the way

[hard smelt]

it always was 😄

[wraith thunder]

these are amazing changes if the goal is to make building ships less of an annoyance to make even if you want to do it

[sick marsh]

yo can you fix your fking game, isnt like this game is 10 years old and stil barbarossa front just skips the crimean island and leaves the frontline open

like how do you manage to not fix that after years

[whole arch]

Bros living the best life if that's the biggest issue lmao

[fresh cedar]

Not as good at shore bombardment though since those only allow a few ships at a time to do it

[whole arch]

Fair enough

[sick marsh]

ahahhaah

[final ivy]

Anybody know what this is about?

I see it on the Paradox launcher but everytime I click on it to view it in forums, it says I do not have permission to view

[coral drift]

Huh?
2nd phase of the Devcorner?

The usual ones are 2601xyz, like 2601004 (Dutch East Indies)

[final ivy]

What do you suspect?

[coral drift]

Probably regarding 1.18

The country selection screen is already full if you have all DLCs

I reckon there would be a third row 🤣

[median bronze]

@pseudo wing I think I got access to an unreleased dev diary I dmd 💔

[brittle venture]

hes not working today

[ruby wind]

will hoi4 devs ever work on forgotten countries

Romania has had the same focus tree for years and im enraged

[median bronze]

I know staff are pretty active on reddit so I made a post but unsure what to do tbh https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1rznuyo/dev_corner_2602001_unable_to_access/

Its a weekend and the only people that are really active on a weekend from PDX is Arheo on reddit sometimes but not too sure how to report it other than in the forums which I did and that may not even be seen

[brittle venture]

just like dont ping chak

[median bronze]

thought he was fine with pings for things like this/important things or PG Tea 💔

[brittle venture]

kind of if its his working days afaik and even then he does not like it

its not his workdays tho

[median bronze]

yeah ig not sure where to report it to though tbh

[crimson tartan]

someone accidentally posted this ahead of time, happened before

it will be available later

[robust grail]

Ok, who gonna address the elephant in the room that somehow AI is so broken recently?

I swear that Germany is so done, they can't push deep into USSR.

And Italy can't even win Ethiopia now.

[median bronze]

the AI needs a rework

[robust grail]

For god sake, PRX never gave us a competent AI, it is just that they are getting worse

They don't even test it properly when release new mechanic. NCNS make naval AI broken for at least 2 months

[final ivy]

Genuinely

In most cases Germany gets dogged on

I was actually surprised to see the Axis win against the Soviet Union the other day as I was playing Communist China, as it was like the first time in ages I saw the Axis not get shit on by the Soviets

[final ivy]

Ha yeah probably

Oh yeah makes sense then why they’re re-doing it

Would be nice if they decided to sort them in alphabetical order

Just feel like it should be that way

Or they could do smth where they divide the countries into their selective theatres

[daring ocean]

i cant even win agaisnt ethiopa as italy

pretty fair for me

[spare wadi]

Does anyone know when the devs are going to upload the second most recent patch so we can rollback?

I'm not using any mods but my Ironman cloud save broke with the recent patch and now I cant finish my run. 😿

[somber aspen]

Is there a suggestion channel

[coral drift]

Wishing the best for both TaoG and 1.19

[hollow coral]

Put suggestions in the paradox forums

[woven orchid]

What is the command to instantly search for doctrines?

[final ivy]

This guide makes it a walk in the park
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3556388157

[steep ivy]

I dislike the new update got rid of the heavy cruiser model so had to differ between LC and HCs

[hollow coral]

I too like staring at ship models

[steep ivy]

well talkign about the image not the 3d modles

[unkempt ingot]

So, one thing I've noticed since the last update is that the US Congress mechanics don't seem to randomize anymore, at least when playing with the same settings.

For 3-4 games now, I've gotten hammered in the 1936 election, and the first three Congressional support missions are all the same (civilian factory in Nebraska, then South Carolina, then infrastructure in MInnesota).

I have $5 on somebody setting a fixed seed for testing purposes, and forgetting to change it back to random for release.

[fading walrus]

If France gets reworked I would want them to give the player the option to continue the war from Algeria if they get capitulated

Kinda like how you can continue to fight as Poland and Ethiopia even after you get capitulated

[hollow coral]

would make more sense in equatorial africa

[fading walrus]

True but I’m referring to the idea you refuse to go Vichy or free France

Like France had a plan for this pre wwii

[hollow coral]

like algeria specifically or the colonies as a whole

[fading walrus]

The whole colonial empire bar the metropol

[hollow coral]

metropol

yeah works

i hope they make the french industrial tree actually useful

[fading walrus]

Same 210 days to get 8 Civilian factories is buns

Stupid phone not sure why it auto corrected it to nine

No bourbon Sicily puppet or cores for the bourbon path

Or claims or formables for its lost new world colonies

[hollow coral]

ideally the bourbon path should be like the austrian subjugation path

although the most legimate line would be the orleanist bourbons

not alfonso

idealy a reworked bourbon path should have an option to install alfonso or orleanists

then make a bourbon empire

[fading walrus]

Agreed as the Orleanist path just exists and is pretty bland a forgettable

[keen totem]

all i want is a better napoleonic path..

[vestal inlet]

us rework

[spare sage]

sri lanka DLC

[bitter mauve]

Yes
The actual path is way too short, it doesn't sense and it's not historically accurate

[mild ledge]

I love how the faction name is confederation of the rhine lmao

They should make the axis called generalgoverment and allies called mandatory palestine

[bitter mauve]

[keen totem]

i want it to be like the rt56 napoleon tree

it's probably my favorite path to play in that entire mod

[hollow coral]

How can it exactly be historically accurate tho

[coral drift]

Add more focuses regarding taking back the American or West Asian possessions like Haiti and Egypt?

[hollow coral]

no it just sounded funny to me

historically accurate napoleonic path in 1930s

but yes it needs more buildup

and be able to gain cores on stuff like italy and catalonia

[keen totem]

catalonia, belgium and the rhine at the very least

[bitter mauve]

You should also get a decision to create the Great duchy of poland

And possibly another to reclaim louisiana

[coral drift]

Or at least invite Poland to your faction

Even the whole Little Entente

[bitter mauve]

Yeah

[coral drift]

At least there is still many contents that can be made using historical precedences
Don't let them barebones

[bitter mauve]

Exactly

[keen totem]

mutually exclusive focuses maybe

idk

[coral drift]

Eh, Napoleon always friendly towards Poland

[keen totem]

maybe a system like democratic japans or mitteleuropa to slowly puppet your allies

[keen totem]

yeah maybe allying with poland would be the better option

rest of the little entente as well

[coral drift]

Allying
And only restoration as puppet or ally if Poland is already annexed

[keen totem]

poland and france should get something to represent their alliance

1921

iirc

and the military mission

maybe not guarentees but a national spirit

should germany attack poland france comes to aid

something similar maybe for czechoslovakia that'll be lost whenever munich crisis happens

or some equivalent

[keen totem]

pushing for poland to crown a monarch and reform into the PLC could be somewhat plausible

[crimson tartan]

national spirit that does nothing
just like irl

[keen totem]

pretty much

[keen totem]

essentially tho what i think is having said national spirit will call france to war if germany attacks and they can accept or deny

denying has a relations penalty (western betrayal or some), war support maybe lowers a bit and obvs removes the spirit

[gritty fjord]

Is there anything in game about the USSR asking poland to traverse there terriotory to guarantee Czechoslovakia?

[coral drift]

@pastel flume telling you, there is a new state category, "large_island"

[pastel flume]

yeah its like used in 2 states i think

like the bismarc island in papua and madagascar

[coral drift]

A few Indies states should be degraded from the "continental" version into "islands" version, with that

[coral drift]

That's just a jump from 20 to 100 right there lel

[coral drift]

Ceram (South Moluccas) can use that too, while Halmahera (North Moluccas) can use "small island" + "favorable approach" on Morotai Island since the Americans used it as a staging point to liberate the Philippines

[swift abyss]

dimelo brodel cuando quieras jugar hoi4 me avisas

[plucky cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-underpants-poopypants-professor-poopypants-hallelujah-gif-3355057812970534150

god bless st pierre and miquelon

i dont have to go through the whole atlantic now ❤️‍🩹

[crimson tartan]

no

in the game it's like there was nothing between soviets and czechoslovakia at all 😟

[stable mica]

Do we get today new dev corner?

[coral drift]

Hopefully

[coral drift]

About this

[vast shore]

I hope this means I can set the country I want on the list

[jovial flower]

Unplayed, as a selection is not bad ngl

But it will probably end on not played

New Zealand

[safe trail]

dev corner was so boring hahahaha

[hushed lion]

Currently no but hopefully it gets added with the upcoming Czechoslovakia rework

[thick edge]

Maybe unplayed country paths?

[hollow coral]

what did you expect

[safe trail]

the new dlc say they said ther where very close

for chezia

[hollow coral]

its probably coming in like april or may

second quarter

so not that close

and this dev corner got leaked a few days ago

[safe trail]

but they switched thunder of ouer gates is still Q2 but was switched with this dlc

[hollow coral]

both are in q2

[safe trail]

yes

[hollow coral]

its just the czech dlc is coming first

[safe trail]

yes and they said for 2 wekks it is very close

[hollow coral]

i dont think ive heard that

where have they said that

[compact kiln]

whose focus trees are coming with the czech dlc?

[safe trail]

(ICYMI: While Thunder at our Gates was originally slated to release first, they’ve now been switched. Peace for our Time will be releasing first, and very soon.)

[hollow coral]

czechoslovakia and likely a slovak tree\

[safe trail]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/warships-of-the-pacific-coming-soon.1906987/

Here

[compact kiln]

just those?

bummer

[safe trail]

it is aso not expansive

[hollow coral]

its made by a modding team so its smaller scale

[compact kiln]

ah

makes sense

[hollow coral]

i want to guess maybe next month then? and well maybe start seeing dev diaries for it

[safe trail]

yeah and i fought today

[hollow coral]

hopefully since the scope is smaller we get more focused content

[safe trail]

we get the first dev diary

[compact kiln]

and better content

[safe trail]

2-3 dev diarys

[safe trail]

they connfirmed alle idiologies on steam

[compact kiln]

mm

[safe trail]

demo communist monarchie and military dictatorship

[compact kiln]

man I wish they would rework usa uk and france

[hollow coral]

their time will come

[compact kiln]

not fast enough 😔

the new features to come with thunder at our gates seem pretty cool

[hollow coral]

army hq seems like another feature i probably wont use honestly

[compact kiln]

I like the captains though

[hollow coral]

just seems like it will be a few boosts

[compact kiln]

yeh nothing revolutionary but I don't mind

but if it's like 60 bucks i might

in CAD

[coral drift]

109k Rupiahs (just like NSB's price in 2021) and i'm sold, hehe

Me and my Indonesian friends are still wishlisting it

[compact kiln]

Nah paradox would never put it at that price in cad

[coral drift]

I know that Rupiah is weak, but well, Gotterdammerung and NCNS's prices are enough to buy Old HoI4's price

[compact kiln]

How much is base game these days?

like 66 cad no discount I think

[vast shore]

surely with these many reactions in clear support paradox will consider custom country selection

[whole arch]

Hopefully modding these new bookmarks will still be similar to how they are now instead of ten million times more complex

Hopefully they are also part of the base game cause it sucks to be a modder who owns no dlcs and has to make mechanics for people with the dlcs for all these mechanics

[mild ledge]

there hasnt been a single dev diary for peace for our time

its not releasing soon

[safe trail]

they said this themselve

[mild ledge]

where?

[safe trail]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/warships-of-the-pacific-coming-soon.1906987/

here

under the roadmap

peace for our time is first

[mild ledge]

Hm

its just that they havent put out a dev diary yet so we dont know

i think it will rleewase in april

[safe trail]

yeah i think this to

sadly no dev diary today

[glossy inlet]

Yeah idk why they made a dev corner about what essentially just a qol feature

[crimson nimbus]

https://giphy.com/gifs/israel-israeli-government-is-calling-iiYlQFty5l0r1jD5jt

[fresh cedar]

Have there been any dev diaries yet?

[safe trail]

no

[fresh cedar]

In theory could come out June

So makes sense diaries aren’t that in advance

[safe trail]

but they sad thubder of ouer gates comes aso Q2 and peace of ouer time will come ou first now

[fresh cedar]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

Both can be June

[safe trail]

they said very soon

[fresh cedar]

Mhm

[safe trail]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/warships-of-the-pacific-coming-soon.1906987/

[fresh cedar]

Very soon is pretty vague, especially since we haven’t seen anything on it 😂

Paradox doesn’t really seem to shadow drop things either

[safe trail]

i bet we get 1 dev diary thts it it is not a paradox product modders make the new dlc peace of time

[fresh cedar]

I respect your optimism

Really hope it works out so we get more like it

[safe trail]

april peace and thunder is may or june

[fresh cedar]

Or both June

[coral drift]

Thunder can be on June 6th
Would be poetic

[safe trail]

maybe

[crimson tartan]

i think it is not the best strategy to release 2 projects at the same time

one will overshadow the other and since taog is much bigger than czech dlc

no one will ever buy it 😔 🥀

[fresh cedar]

I completely agree

[steep nest]

Unless you already have the expansion pass already for NCNS

In which you get both for free

[glossy inlet]

Both won’t be June that’s stupid

[fresh cedar]

Free 😏

[steep nest]

https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279

[mild ledge]

thats not how it works

hoi4 dlcs are for hoi4 players

yes, the czech dlc sales will be lower then taog for multiple reasons

but me and you will be buying both

also czech dlc is 1 country make by a mod team hired by paradox not paradox so its impossible for more work to be done on one then the other

[keen totem]

im probably dead wrong but my guess is czech dlc will be in april or early may when toag in june

[whole arch]

Personally I think more people will buy it than taog (or at least want to buy it) because it's a project created by modders and not Paradox, so they'd want to support the modders AND purchase a dlc that is different because tbh a lot of people have lost faith in PDX
It'll also probably be priced better bc it's smaller

[coral drift]

Hopefully my Indonesian ass can afford it, lel

[crimson tartan]

uuuh i don't think so
just remember how people hated country packs, like bftb and toa, because there were only focus trees
also people gonna say "PDX NOW WANT COMMUNITY TO MAKE THE GAME AND WANT TO TAKE MONEY FOR THING THAT ARE FREE AT WORKSHOP, LAZY GREEDY BAST@RDS NAAAH"

something like this

and people have no infinite money
and most people will not buy 2 dlcs at the same time, they gotta chose what they wan to play first

[hollow coral]

those guys forgot what capitalism is

[fresh cedar]

Yeah people actually complain bc about everything