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no? it was basically annexed into the chinese state
To not see the top bit when it was under Japanese control
Meijang will be able to be mongol empire
Probably will be an achievement
Inner Mongolia when it has Mongolia in the name
Shanxi is also in Inner Mongolia somewhat
I believe it is currently an autonomous zone in China today
Yeah, and I believe the Soviets can give Mongolia a claim to a northern Shanxi state
Because Inner Mongolia
We should get a dev in here to check whether they think Mengjiang is more Mongolian or Chinese
And also get them to have a big section as they never read the forums
just the wiki
Is it from Wikipedia?
at the end they were reorganized into the japanese chinese state
Or hoi4 wiki
regular
Wait, Reorganized Republic of China is a tag now
You can trap the Japanese army by capping it
So if China player snakes, they win
which is like irrelevant? it was always territories within china just ruled by mongols and seen as a mongolian collaboration state (very important with japanese army ambitions into the vladivostok region and the north)
china is messed up
Not irrelevant if they were give. To Japanese China
I bet there will a post update war effort that will have them
theyre gonna have less individual IC
So you are saying that you won't be able to beat China in 1939 anymore
thats a different nation
Sad
oh you will
china is like mega dead
Yeah, but mengjiang were given to the reorganised gov of China, making them Chinese
Going to take until the 1980s for them to recover?
That isnt how it works
Mengjiang’s name ‘Mengjiang’ is Chinese
They are still an autonomous region in China
Remember, kurds dont exist because they live in Turkey, Iraq, Syria, and Iran
According to your logic
Chahar isn’t, Inner Mongolia, which encompasses northern xi bei san ma, shanxi, mengkukuo and manchukuo, is
Im going to head to bed, cya
Meng jiang is made up of the Chinese characters: ‘Meng’ 蒙 and ‘jiang’ 疆
Sucks to be you cause’ in Australia it’s only 4:00pm!
meng is just short for mongolia
jiang can be interpreted as land or territory
Mengjiang was also officially apart of the roc before the japanese came knocking
it was governed by the pailiangmao council which Chiang was willing to give as much autonomy to them as they wanted
so they were akin to a warlord
but they shouldnt be given a warlord tree because of there unique situation
HEY
it still has feelings!
Besides, thats why we love it
teaser yet?
no
And it's the Philippines, it doesnt deserve a teaser
I did not need a philines update
Should have picked Siam
and put philippines into the country expansion pass
No, thanks, it would overshadow the East Indies XD
That's exactly why the Philippines, New Zealand and Malaya aren't in the theater pack
They needed to put the most sellable countries into the seperate pack or barely anyone would buy it
Its funny
No NZ and Malaya, though
I genuinely realized that
No Indochina either
while I typed it out
Realism
Another country to be conquered by Japan
There justification was that since it was beginning to become seperate in 1935
The portraits are cool though
Should've add an event when it got upgraded from integrated puppet to colony in April 1937
Also, where is Aung San???
He fits much more for communist leader than Ne Win
Burma for taog😭
At least it should have a proper skeleton content
There are already a lot of focus trees in this expansion pass
Maybe they will be added alongside a United States or Britain rework
NZ light rework, Manchukuo-style
Malayan skeleton content
Singapore and Brunei releaseables (maybe Pattani too?)
3 trees though
That's because Czechoslovakia is a seperate expansion
Isnt that modder though
Should've been packed together in the 1st or 3rd Expansion Pass
Yup
They are going to do taog part two with malaya burma and indochina
Should've been in the 2nd Expansion Pass
Warlord country expansion pass would slap hard
Yes
But unlike all other countries
for chinese warlords its kinda fitting
At this point they should just release French Indochina as a puppet
It was as autonomous as Burma and Malaya
They are getting portraits
And the rest of the colonies in the Pacific Theater are on the map so it's weird for them not to be
French indochina and malaya were not one unit
Although french indochina had a governor general that overlooked the colonies
British malaya and north borneo were distinct entities
Malaysia was weird
I think Singapore was a seperate thing too
And Sarawak
State modifiers would be enough
I would love it to see it well done
But for that we need first to permaban all the people who want schizo trees from discord, Reddit and the paradox forum
Again, it can be done through state modifiers and advisors with specific "on_hire" and "on_fire" entries
Stella Polaris Patch is such a godsend
ping me when diary
Is the dev diary 9 am eastern or 10 am eastern?
9PM Jakarta Time (UTC+7 on Equator)
So 3PM Stockholm Time (UTC+1)
6-7 minutes
In a few minutes
its time
Woah never said anything about 500 new states
Just said the political situation
Ingame its pointless adding so many
Huh?
French indochina can be one state
British malaya can be simplified to the uk owning north botneo
State modifers for Vietnamese states, Cambodian, and Laotian each, can be improved if you hired certain advisors
That's what i meant
anyone know if the next dlc will bring updates to korea?
not yet
portaits and decisions
what is ts
they need to do a dlc for mongolia manchria and korea they seem left out
They left out korea for a reason
Mongolia mengjiang and manchuria would be a neat dlc
would be the worst dlc oat
i dont think anything can be as bad as graveyard
ot better include atleast 1 important nation
How long until the dev diary?
They never specified a time
atleast it has 1 strong and 1 very important country
God bless daylight savings time
yeah fair point
Did they say they were going to release it late?
no
well they never said when
maybe a north america rework defo canada
Normally, they would have released it seven minutes ago
It just always releases on the same day at the same time
no dev diary today seems like
maybe something with eu5
😔
Could just be later
canada usa mexico
yeah them 3 maybe not mexico but usa and canada need reworks
hopefully
next dlc is usa i bet would be smart
usa canada and uk
Most likely
they all need some flavour
100% they won’t don’t two majors together
france also very basic
Isnt that obvious though
Yeah not till late 2026, like Q3-Q4
romania is the 3rd most important axis member not including japan and their tree is buns
what would be the country pack after usa dlc
well main would be usa, rework would be canada and mexico gets some little addons
Caribbean
no way
jesus
too irrelevant
isle hopping at its best
Which is exactly why I can see it
They might do yugo, Albania, and Romania rework probably
north south america would be a bit more likely
south america dont need another dlc
Ireland should be reworked alongside the uk
where dev diary
i think paradox needs to work with the rt56 modders when it comes to focus trees
@pseudo wing are we having a dev diary?
No sir, not today.
there is one this week just not today
There is a very very important thing releasing today so we're giving them their time to shine 
well well well
Ah, so you're Bruhddha
Well, just saying, i stand with my choice to add more states there (especially Singapore, Brunei, Kedah-Perlis, Kelantan-Terengganu, and Pattani) but no new starting tags.
State modifiers would be enough
real
Hmm
ahhh the new tanu tuva focus tree
lets go
eu5 dev diary gonna go mental
*gestures broadly to the 1600's *
I would love for the states in Java to be reworked like this, hehehehehehe
It's more granular than HoI4's, but not too much
because its on another day
soon?
is this a teaser lmao
not at all
its eu5 shit isnt it
what PDX title is doing a thing today, that we should know?
mental tried to combine two sentences, that was gibberish for a second lol
if the very important thing is not hoi 4 its irrelevant
facts
so because of eu 5 we get nothing great
i could not care less about any other paradox game
same goes for all of life if its not hoi4 related dont tell me
i dont care about eu 5
so i better not get disappointed 😭
Probably on Thursday
eu series is dog
🤷🏻♂️
10hours of pressing buttons and a bit of combat
f eu 5
better not see eu 5 on hoi 4 server
No dev diary bc EU5? Bruh im not buying EU5 for $60 rn. Gonna probably buy it next year on sale 😂
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i dont care about eu 5
I’d guess the next expansion pass would be the last at the earliest. Though there will probably be another after that tbh
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HOI4 lifecycle most likely ending 2027-2028
if they make a hoi5 i think it should be based between 1936-1952
Don’t get me wrong EU5 looks cool. But not releasing a HOI4 dev diary bc of it doesn’t help me buy it any sooner lol
gonna milk it untill its out dated as heck
by then we wasted 500€ on hoi 4 only for hoi 5 to not have any old features and add a few new ones
Another $500
fair point but i pay monthly for the dlc
i dont buy dlc
is it even worth
ive done the sub for like 6 months now
mainly cause i have bad spending habits and know full well i will never save up enough to buy all the dlc
Can’t imagine renting a game.
so like £13 every 3 months aint that bad
it is
Eventually it’s more cost effective to just buy the dlc
fr
Idk which is? Thought EU5 released days ago.
Content creators got early access to it
Tbh I don’t care abt any pdx title till they’ve been out for about 2 years then I buy $100 of dlc and play it for 500 hours
So no dev diary?
EU4 was my first paradox game tbh
No bc EU5 apparently 😭
I bought eu4 half a year ago under pressure
L
Last time I played was like 10 years ago then I found hoi4, and switched over
Honestly, EU5 looks really good but is extremely unpolished in its current state as are most pdx games on release.
I’m sure it’ll be great in a year or two.
I’m scared to get hyped over any new pdx title bc what happened to Imperator Rome and the Star Trek Stellaris game
I feel like I recall CK3 being regarded well when it released, but nobody liked Vicky3 until like, about right now
They fr dropped Star Trek like a hot pan
Threw it like a frog in shit
Yeah that really made me think twice about buying a pdx title too soon
I waited legit until a month ago to play Victoria 3 bc of that
I recall they kinda tried with Imperator, but nobody liked it
I think the problem with imperator is that it kinda focuses too heavily on one nation
I like Imperator and played it a lot, but it was mostly developed for Rome, Greece and Carthage
PDX games are fun bc their scope imo
And it lacked it
Where my gothic DLC
I need my goth women Paradox!!!!
Obviously they won’t do that to Europa bc it’s a huge title
But still
Buying it for $60 on release? 😬
I think that’s the only logic that saved Vicky 3
Yeah
“Too big to fail”
Believe it or not EU5 is already having a better release than Vicky 3
It’s just that nations are sorta shallow and messy atm. Like Ottomans, HRE.
Wonder where I’ve heard that before
From what I’ve seen from testers, it’s pretty buggy too.
Though everyone said they liked it
Still, not getting a faction/coal/Phillipines diary today bc of it makes me sad 😔
Honestly, call me a shill, I don’t mind the price tags for paradox games. $60 upfront, $20-35$ a year for new DLC, I’d need to do the calculations but for me personally that has equated to something around 25 cents per hour of gameplay with hoi4, probably less
Brb now imma do the math
That’s my mindset too. I just don’t buy in till I know it’s worth it. Like I owned base Victoria 3 then bought all the dlc years later once it was established
I’d probably pay $30 for EU5 in its current state. If it develops and fixes some things then I’d probably pay more.
Day worse 😞
I usually play those but theyre in remote areas so its okay
thanks to eu 5
Nah man they’re trying to support fellow developers. Pretty sure some old PDX staff went to the EU5 team so they’re standing in solidarity
solidarity nah but i am selfish
Dont be selfish and/or greedy and your life will improve as you improve that of others
When is next dev diary?
Next week
So no dev diary this week?
Probably not because eu5
I was wondering where the dev diary is for today but then I realised the clocks went forward in my country so it must be at 3pm this time instead of 2pm
oh ok
@edgy walrus
Nice, thank you
ah okay
There is one this week, just not today
I’d guess Thursday
I find it ridiculous
For 60$ I expect a fully finished Game
Don’t get me wrong, I do too, but I’m looking at this from the perspective of the entire modern video game industry
Dont talk about that on this discord server.
Deleting mine to be nice
If a friend wouldn't have bought me the new hoi4 DLC I would have went for a quest of booty for the first time in like 7 years

The hoi4 devs need to remember that alternatives exist 
But alright
Ill stop
Cause I like you
Can I use a payment plan for eu5

Tbh I still stand by my statement regardless, hoi4 legit a great deal, even if I bought it all at full price (i only have for about half of it) if still make out like a thief
No but probably 10$. a month
3,400 hours over the last 7 years, great deal imo
I bought most DLCs when they were on sale while I put my shop region to Thailand, back to when that still was easy to do

Lmao nice
Paid like 20$ for all the DLC
If you continue this conversation any further you will be actioned.
I bought base game on Black Friday 2017 (oh it’s almost 8 years now) and all dlc up to the recently released walking the tiger during the following summer 2018 sale
And I’ve bought everything either day and date or pre ordered because I have brain worms but only for hoi4
Except the newest dlc and expansion pack, my computer broke so I haven’t bought it
Yet
it took me like 5 years? To play the game because i didnt physically have a pc
Casey, Casey I got a question for you fam
Do you think we will be blessed with South America round 2 alongside a US rework
what is the best mod for WO1?
PARADOX
What’s WO1
World war 1
RELEASE A WARLORD COUNTRY EXPANSION PASS AND MY LIFE IS TOUES
Ooh
The Great War mod in my opinion
everything i can share, you already know about anyway
Thx
But most say Great War Redux
I will try both and the best one for the cold war?
Dude I am actually so hyped for the new warlord reworks, they are way more expansive than they initially let on
Theres only 1
CWIC
Cold war Iron Curtain
That’s a strange way to respond to a question about what could be 1-2 years away, hmmmmmmm
No thats just how NDAs work
FFU2 if mp GWR if sp
Goated documentary
I was right let’s go !!!
Alternatively I can recommend TNO, its a cold war if the Axis won but its more a visual novel and less combat
It’s cool how they do differ from eachother
They ain’t releasing nothin cuz of eu5
TNO is unbearable 😂
3400 over 2 years my life is cooked 😭
No way you actually had to sign an NDA
@vast shore You need to try to play as the polish lituanian commenwealth it is great and I made a big as imperium
Holy shit
A discord mod had to sign an NDA? 😬
I like hoi4 a bit to much XD
I mean I’m sure paradox doesn’t just want people leaking stuff
Unless you sit in on team meetings and are privy to upcoming releases. I can’t see why they’d force an NDA
no dev diary today??
no cause eu5
Not today. There will be one this week
@brittle venture do you get paid
Cmon
XD excited for the game
I’d hope they do
No pay, no NDA, that’s my motto
also what will be the next dev diary?
Could be factions, coal/energy, Philippines, strategic locations, or doctrine rework
What’s a strategic location?
Are they just shadow dropping an update bigger than NSB?
Yeah same with Phillipines but they’re much further along now
Moderators have to sign the NDA, but its mostly because we store proof for actionings and stuff, and its to prevent people from leaking things
Though I do understand your sentiment regarding NDA's and whatnot
A new mechanic which makes specific tiles and islands have unique buffs for building and other stats
So that they’re more worth taking
ohhhh
Somone know what stuff comes with no comprimise no surrender
gotta see if philippines has to be in the spanish faction
It also really helps cut down on external drama and whatnot from rearing its head into the Moderator Team, which we dont want someone from another HOI server to do things only in their own interest rather than this community's interest as a whole
I feel like the devs have done nothing but reveal focus trees this entire time, and keep hinting at a fundamental rework of everything in the game
Oh trust me it makes sense. I just thought they were unpaid and not in the loop on updates. Didn’t realize they were deeper than that
They're not in the loop for updates and whatnot for the most part, but I do give headsup on potential activity bumps and whatnot, though I don't spoil anything for people as much as I can help it, Moderator or not
Nah they did show strategic locations a bit which was cool. And how the great wall will give buffs for specific tiles etc
Oh, interesting
Im hyped for the great wall
I like to keep the surpises for everyone, Moderator or Regular user :))
Ah that makes sense. So you don’t have them running hyping people up, potentially derailing content
But muh war lord content
They showed a decent bit in the streams. Though I think this week is supposed to be the faction rework
These new icons are strategic locations
Islands got really nerfed when it comes to forts and airfield sizes
Ah, I see, that’s interesting
So these buffs effectively let them build up more
Wait
So instead of a normal island only having lvl 1-2 airfield, these could have 8. Or instead of lvl 1 forts, lvl 4
Honestly I wasn’t expecting an island nerf, if anything, I was expecting them to compensate by making islands bigger, like a lot of mods have done
Some will be effective, others not. Tbh islands are all even more worth it bc homebases limit range. So you will need to island hop more
It’s just that some islands are extra useful now
I’m extremely excited to see how this new naval rework and supply system changes the game, perhaps it will actually make the system halfway realistic
Meh
Instead of Japanese style hyper death stacking
All I care about is my warlord content
Which warlord you most excited about
It’s supposed to take much longer to gain superiority over oceans. And supply sea lanes are supposed to be more important
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Average Warlord Enjoyer
Sinkiang and Xebei seem the most in depth
Unfortunately
I do really
Really
Really
We don’t really know yet, others may have stuff too
Hope they gave cool stuff for all the warlords facing Japan
Like Yan Xishan or the Shandong Clique
Good for me, Sinkiang is by and far my favorite, can’t wait to reproduce this but in the new update
So many more cores to take soon
I’ll have a China to stretch from the Himalayas to the Siberian steppe, from the Caspian to the pacific
Wonder if Khotan will have unique content
Ik Sinkiang has its communist path basically
Same, Im a Xibei San Ma enjoyer
I assume it would have the same things as the other ma families
It does have its own mini-warlord tree separate from the other Ma warlords about unifying Sinkiang.
They said the 3 mas can try to annex the others and unify
Right, but how does it vary from Sinkiang?
It was shown in the dev diary.
Oh, so what’s the Kotan ma then
Like wasn’t it a Buddhist kingdom?
Much shorter.
Ik they showed Xebei and Sinkiang. But did they even show Kotans?
I love how the devs fr gaslit us like “oh yeah, minor warlord rework” but nah they actually giving us something decently substantial
I love em for that
As a warlord mp main
this is peak
No. Khotan Ma, as others have said, is the New 36th Division led by Ma Hushan.
I didn’t expect Manchukuo to get the short end of the stick tbh
are they gonna rename it?
This is HOI4 we’re talking about. Where Hitler can be a Byzantine emperor and a bear the Tsar of Russia
Neither did I
All warlords got limited content and manchukuo got the most
But Im happy about it
It doesnt help how limited the sources and information for the time are
Besides anything else, Ma Hushan and the other members of the Ma families are Muslim.
Feels like the opposite based on the reveals so far tbh, but I guess we will see
"Wer suchet der findet" - German Proverb and opening for a dark humor joke
Khotan Ma gets this tree for unifying Sinkiang and the shared tree of unifying the Ma Clique.
But I am slightly worried
Kotan Ma is gonna be the best Ma I’m calling it
they didn't show the other warlord trees
If you look at any individual warlord it is quite minimal
At-least it has 6 paths now.
The focus obviously went into mechanics (mostly yet to be truly revealed such as doctrines; the core balance of the game)
Ironically warlords might get better emperor paths than the Qing
And into china and japan/philippines
Perhaps, I think the biggest thing for me is the fact the warlords felt so small and meaningless, so now it feels like this small bit has rather brought them to life, where as Manchukuo already had something going for it
Chak says later this week
So probably Thursday
/MacTavish
I pray to god about border skirmishes
but my hopes are low
They said they slightly changed it
but it doesn't seem like much
Yeah I’d guess Wednesday or Thursday. They normally do a stream or video Thursday that’s why I say Wednesday
In the last stream they showed it a bit. Looks like you can prepare more now to make it easier? Though we’ll see
Only the CCp
But thats it
They always just needed goals. I think have short term goals of unifying or taking over parts of China really mixes it up
While i appreciate the memes, i wanted a Republican Germany path led by SPD
Yeah I wonder how Khalkin Gol goes
I wouldn’t be too worried. They will at the very least have generals, since that seems to be the way the devs intend to gate off generals for the Nationalists and encourage the player to interact with the Chinese United Front as a faction.
Agreed, should’ve had a couple true democratic leaders. Not just constitutional monarchy
The warlords didn't need monarchic paths. They needed more individual flavour than what they have
If they have it, i would not mind the memes
Really.
Do you guys think that monuments will finally be able to transfer owners now?
Bc Greece still can’t actually get buffed from the Hagia Sofia
They should add monuments to vic3 so they can affect your state political demographics and state attraction/throughput fr
Very off topic
I really want to learn vic3
Yeah but I wish for a few unique focuses for all warlords
Line go up
Same. Communism not being meta made me sad. Turns out capitalism grows GDP best 😔
It’s surprisingly not that hard
I only have like 200h in vicky and i kind of understand it
As god intended
Idk though, if a monument is within your core territory, it should buff you
Like if Europe cores all of Europe, should get buffs from all the monuments
No dev diary today?
Not just your starting
Does vic3 have unique buildings?
No, EU5 release delayed it till wed/thurs
I ate it
And did they change the eu5 release date
I swear it was Nov 23
That was the DLC for HOI4
That's the 20th, i think
No the dlc is the 20th
Byzantine Greece not getting buffs from the monument that mentions the Byzantines is criminal
I’ll die on this hill 😂
Already leaked.
make a forum post about it, and I'll bump it towards the War Effort discussions internally, bc I kinda agree
I think itd be cool if having say a mosque (dont know if i can say the name here lol) could give more devout pop attraction/strenght in return for some minor/state buffs
Thatd be sick i think
Okay Chak, if I must
Revealed*
Yes, you must, you have no choice I have already taken your soul
So right is Koumintang soldier with German helm. Left is communist Chinese soldier, PLA. And middle is Xuantong emperor keychain
No idea abt the hoodie. Probably bland and say HOI4 or something
I would sell my soul if it meant my vic games always had line go up..
How much did the last plushies cost
Somewhere around a million to a billion
Aren’t they like $30
so over
The hoodie will be $60
So that’s $120 off the bat, probably $10 for the keychain
I own a hoodie from make ship and it’s really high quality and thick
wrong chat sorry
Historically accurate out of 10
columbia has only some oil when para/uruguay get alot of steel and oil
i just realized they will have to improve soviets attacking manchuria if germany is dealt with
on historical atleast
How should I format the forum post? As a suggestion?
yes yes, a suggestion
that if XYZ country, say ottoman, has an ottoman path, it should in theory benefit from the ottoman monument
I am a little saddened they renamed opium as special goods
I'm not sure if that's what you had in mind
not the exact thing I had in mind, but its a post I can reference regardless.
I can also add my own suggestion in tandem with it internally
Im so sad that Mengjiang doesn’t get a focus tree
Mongolia tibet Bhutan nepal and mengjiang
ned a focus tree
not big ones but maybe like iceland aussa paraguy uruguay
Vielen danke
not today
Delayed till later this week
because eu 5 relase
Guys remember, they haven’t been uploading dev diary schedules anymore. Their days aren’t consistent.
but what is the very very important thing today?
Eu5 release
Did they strip eu5 of mechanics that eu4 had
Also it would be the Philippines and they already didn't deserve being in this dlc
They shouldve done philippines in the american rework
Or better yet in the south East asia+ Australia rework
It would have made much more sense
And give instead a worthy focus tree for Manchuria and a better one than the provided for KMT
what are the dlcs release dates?
NCNS (China, Japan Philippines), November 20 of this year
TAOG (Australia, Siam, Indonesia) and Peace in our Time (Czechoslovakia) Quarter 2 of next year
Im not
Its actually semi cool
Only warlord without a focus tree
makes it uniique
only thing that sucks
lack of cores
but they can core inner (and now outer?) mongolia
Something like this
when does the game end
btw
i was doing usa and i was cooking so hard i got to like 1947 (i think) and i made the country turn communist through the focuses to allign with the ussr but then the game just suddenly ended and i got the stats menu and an option to quit only
after like a month of turning communist
Like the game doesn't really end you can always continue
1948
is there no way you can keep going
it didnt let me
just had one button - quit
was me turning communist... losing?
because i was doing very well when it just ended
No
You just close the menu and can keep going. I’ve played till 1980’s before
Losing would be capitulating and being annexed
there was nothing i kept lcicking
i saw someone else post a picture that had a continue button
i didnt have anything
so clearly the game thinks i lost
is it because the communists started a civil war against me and THEN i did the focus that makes me communist
Civil wars between two sides with the same ideology can trigger autoannex possibly
I forgot if thats a base game or Road to 56 feature
In that case you must’ve died
Nah they must’ve capitulated you
It shouldnt end
aomwtimes theres an end screen but you should be able to continue
just save
ans load it via safe
I think my longest run was until 1962
With 19M dead on my side, 90M dead on the Allied side and 84M dead on the Soviet side
they tend to do regions rather than the politics
I have 3 bug reports in the forum from August. Why haven’t they been responded to?
If you meant to write bug reports I'm not the one who answers those but the team does check them when they can.
Depending on what was reported they could also be duplicates
If you meant big reports in terms of moderation I don't handle moderation on the forums
Also please end the debate, (I was having it viciously with @polar jasper and @brittle venture yesterday. Is Mengjiang more Chinese or Mongolian, and if it is more Chinese, why isn’t it getting a unique/warlord tree in ‘no compromise, no surrender’? @pseudo wing
Please dont bring me into this again
What time is it where you are?
You called a mod an idiot when they tried to help someone
It wasn’t a mod and I apologised!
It's 9pm for me here, and I wake up at 6 for work so I'm already in bed, however as to your question, I sadly do not have an answer, as I'm neither an expert on Asia in general nor am I the person who decides what content is made.
Though usually with big DLC like this there are countries with priority, and some have more information making it easier to research/ Implement
Perhaps in the future it could be looked at but of course that's not a promise
During the war efforts I tend to prioritize bug reports that I can find that are smaller to fix (think typos in text and incorrect models being used) But if I remember correctly some focuses were fixed/altered as well
So who knows 
Shouldnt get a warlord tree
A unique tree would be ideal but not necessary
It was probably also more han but it was governed mainly by mongols
Isn't this an inherently political question lol
i did see one of those messages
but i dont understand why
like i wasnt zoning out or anything no troops were even close to the us
diary today perhaps?
Usually it would be on Thursday
*the alternative day
thats stream day
You don’t get a message like that every time if you’re on Ironman.
i just dont understnad how i capitulated with no foreign troops on any of my land
Civil war
ah yes
if 2 tags are the same ideology theres an event to reunify
you mustve said yes to it
or lost the civil war
regardless this is a bit "janky" as in it usually goes to the cosmetic tag instead of original tag
its a shame cuz i was having fun
i had stockpiled like 50 nukes
tommorow then dev diary
@pseudo wing Can you teaser the release for the next dev diary, pretty please 😋
Im so glad they went through all the important stuff
Stop begging, it wont get you anything
Some professional advice here
People usually grow apprehension/dislike towards you over such behaviours though, which isn't in your best interest i imagine.
So over

a man can beg
😭
Have any streamers gotten ahold of this yet and playing
15 days till dlc
My hope is that Swinceball or Bitt3rSteel would play the Philippines
What is there even to tease?
When the next dev corner will be released?
You guys know?
Machiavellianstrategist test it, he said it in a portugal video
The only things left are the Philippines and the faction rework(and maybe the navy rework)
Exactly my point, they already shower the Philippines pretty much and it has been confirmed that the next dev diary is the Philippines
And even when they do it's not like all to much will have changed
post war korea and accurate peacedeal is my wish
They said the alt his was still very WIP so it definitely has changed not do we know what most focuses do
It would be kinda funny to become a pirate nationa
There is only 3 dev diaries left (last one will be achievements and artwork like usually a couple days before release). And we still haven’t seen Philippines in full detail and the factions system so those will most likely be the other two
There's also only 2 weeks left before the DLC comes out so the achievements and artwork could be on the Wednesday before the DLC comes out
I think the faction one is this week considering they said the faction one will be on a future stream/diary during the last stream
One of my first games will be the Communist Navy Philippines
Because of the naval bonuses they get
Still holding out for hope to a Second Commonwealth focus tree
what about navy?
I’m still full vanilla
Dev Diaries to come will prob be
- Philippines
- Faction, Coal, Doctrine rework and naval rework
- Artwork, achievement and patchlist
And achievements
added 👍
also they might include naval with the philippines
🔪 🪓 ➡️➡️➡️⚰️⚰️⚰️
Huh
They already did a dev diary on Doctrine rework.
The devs have summoned us🇵🇭⚠️
Aww yeah
different tech tree based on path looks interesting
monarchist Phillipiens yessssssssssss
Peak portrait
Philippines looks cool
I do have some concerns with how they're handling characters tho
I'm not sure how I feel about MacArthur actually being a Philippine unit leader
Especially a certain Elias Fuentes
I know it's technically more historically accurate but it makes me wonder how it will work with the already existing USA content
Hirohito is still the starting leader of Japan. Am I missing something here?
sorry idk who that is 😅
could be a screencap from an old build
We cloned MacArthur
Everyone thought we were spared from a Philippine world conquest meme path
They were wrong
No doubt we finna see the Filipino-Spaniard Hyper Empire and a new achievement called the Sunset Sunset Invasion
oh boy I can't wait for yet another world conquest achievement
(Honestly sounds pretty cool, but I know there’s gonna be a lot of no fun allowed people complaining)
I don't intrinsically have a problem with it, it's just a pain in the arras for me cus my PC isn't too good and my game seriously chugs in the later years
Me about to buy a brand new computer in the next couple months 
I like achievements that point to a specific aim rather than just "conquer the world"
I cant wait to see how that newest apple silicon runs hoi4, as I understand, they are great for processing, which is exactly what hoi needs
I heard that apple are notoriously bad at making gaming computers. but I guess that might just be PC propaganda
either way I'm windows till I die
I’m finally abandoning windows because I hate them and am leaving the abusive relationship, but I’m too scared of Linux because my brain is smooth, so I saw that every single game I play runs native on Mac so that’s what I’m going with
I am a soldier of Bill Gates
Bill gates left the fight long ago, now you are a soldier of techbro share holders who are addicted to ketamine 💀
So much AI 💀 💀 💀
Not that Apple is too much better anyway, but like I said, smooth brain, Linux makes me scared
Same
anyway so the Philippines huh
Hyped
Very hyped
Honestly, I’m at this point more excited for the next DLC, I wanna see Australia and Siam
I have some doubts but Mordred Viking is the content designer and he always pulls through the top quality stuff
we are soldiers of Mordred Viking
He always does the best fr
Maybe it was an older build?
philippines looks solid
nofunchads keep complaining
I’m conflicted, I like fun, like Argentina’s path to becoming Germany, but I also don’t like fun, like the EITC
Hah! I appreciate that 😄
will the new doctrine system be in base game?
Yes
Yes, it's very stupid
Worst change in the dlc
why? at least you dont have to deticate a research slot on dovtrines like the pre 1.11 system
One side has full doctrine while the other one doesn't??????
Btw, does Tan Malaka have a proper leader portrait for NCNS or it would be for TaoG?
Same with Sergio Osmeña
Yes the current system is fine as it is
Im saying that they shouldn't change it but it's too late
just stick with 1.16
No everyone should be allowed to play the newest version without cancer
play with mods wich bring back the curent doctrine system when ncns comes out
also will the new chinese historical tree(s) be in base game?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
did they integrate Waking The Tiger into base yet? if so then I think yes
hungary also dint get the historical tree from gdr despit the original tree being integrated
They had ages ago
really? did they just keep the old DoD tree?
yes
That’s pretty nutty icl lol
but hungary isnt that important of a country anyways(at least historicly)
They gonna blow
None of the Country expansion passes ever made me happy
can we see new usa stuff that was changed to work with new japan,china,philippines and the dlc
They are gonna be peak, you just have poor taste
Again shouldn't have to play mods so I can play bad dlc I paid for
No, just advisor portraits in NCNS
It's a little different with DoD tree, but they have a playable historical narrative without the DLC, and we haven't then taken anything away from DoD purchasers. To 'solve' that, we'd have to somehow mesh the DoD alt-history with the historical content from GTD, and frankly that would just be weird.
Not really looking forward to the possibility that Peace for Our Time will provide nothing for basegame Czecho-Slovakia but whatever
its a minor dlc / optional content regardless
Will have to see next year
just like BftB, ToA and the last dlc (im a bit forgetful rn) it doesnt add anything to the base game in terms of national content
GoE?
i have high expectations for it
yeah GoE
Updated national focus icons like they did with GDR maybe
POT for short
TaOG
this is too funny
Which will be the graveyard of empires
With no compromise, no surrender along the way
you can this reduce to 35 days
ik
Kid named No Compromise, No Surrender:
Yeah, I really liked the content he’s done
He gained like 500 social credit when he gave the Fal a wooden stock 😌
So what’s the max cores for Philippines ? Do they get South America cores
Idk about South America but they can core Spain
The "Join the Comitern" focus simply titled "Comitern"
I don't know exactly how often that one comes up in past focus trees, but it FEELS like a quintessential part of Paradox DLCs
No guns for you
I like how Alphonso isn't the king of philipines cause he dies in 1941 like how when he is French king he is immortal
We must say No Compromise and No Surrender, as the Thunder at our Gates grows louder we must secure Peace in our Time
excellent
yo
quick question real fast
whats the meta tank division
and meta tank
can anyone tell me
I can’t wait to see how factions are reworked for Iraq and such
Like they have the Arabia faction , imagine being able to integrate them all
Or for South America being able to unite them all as chile
Make sure to have tank battalions
Wrong chat
Lol
whats better medium or heavy
I hope not, especially on the Indies, i hope the plausible stuffs are added there first before the wacky ones
Ah, okay. Please don't forget to add Osmena as possible country leader too.
Hopefully that would be mutually-exclusive with Malay World as envisaged by Jose Rizal
It would make sense
Wilhelm also immortal
If you ignite german civil war as
Netherlands
Or actually not because I recall him dying after sometime later
depends on context i believe but heavy in general i thinnk
to get urban assault specialist u need to be fighting in cities right
does it count if i place troops in madrid and attack tiles
or does the tile im clicking need to be a city
It's actually not. The German Empire dynamic tag still has Wilhelm II dying and replaced by his son
He dies when you play Spain. I get Jamie III or whatever when I played as Nationalist Spain
Like went Franco, restored monarchy
What is the fixation on the philippine war flag
Because funny
People only want Philippine dlc for flags
Quite sad
Itll be the first good focus tree that plays into oceania
Cant wait for that australia, indonesia, and siam right after
Still sad that there's no content for Malaysia (that we know of)
where did you come up with that einstein
Teahh they totally hopped ober it from indonesia to Siam, would be perfect timing for malaysia to get content too
Not serious, multiple people have been talking about flags like its a biggee deal than the map or focus tree
How are we supposed to be Together for Victory without Malaysia
Ngl thought malaysia would get content before Australia rework
Like i said i wasnt serious
Very curious about the headquarters in the australia dlc
Youtubers mentioned that being a feature in hoi3 but im clueless
Hope they get some content with TaoG
I kinda died a bit on the inside when I saw they were giving them a way of coring spain
Because it did actually happened 🤷♂️
Hopefully would be hard to obtain
But tbh, the way they used Aguinaldo as a way for non-aligned Spain is nicely plausible
I mean, look, is it historically accurate? I don't know
But the Phillipines to Spanish Empire path is exactly the sort of crazy thing you love to see
And hopefully they'll have the chance to at least claim New Spain as well
wdym
its only like one of idk 10 nations that core spain faster than spain itself
And honestly, the Phillipines are the last nation to get content in ANY of the big mods I know of
So good for them for getting something so funny
its also not that OP or anything
oh no theyll be able to get the scary spanish eco
of like 20 civs
Filipino navy arrives at Spain
Sees all the damage
"Actually, maybe we keep sailing"
I hate stupid formables
And old empires reviving themselves
And stupid meme nations
just play historical then
If only vanilla historical was historical

But that aside
I dont mind unhistorical
But it used to be fun
Now its just batshit crazy
Basically Non Hist used to be based on plausibility
Now its more based on whats fun/unique
which might be cool for one country
but sucks as a whole
a bit but its not meant to be realistic
and its not like irl follows logic all the time either
Yeah but it was plausible
And that made it great
the spain one is more plausible than like the afghan formables lol
Anyway
that issue aside
I saw a comment under the dev diary advocating for a shared tree
like Belgium and the Congo
For America and The Philippines
I find that a cool idea
Well, ¡Viva Filipina! exist
Same as East Indies Reworked for Dutch East Indies
The real loners are Indochina, Malaya, and Burma
I hope the fans would be persistent enough to drive the contents this way
Apparently not
Which is sad

Doesn't work for MP
Because i swear for the love of God i did not want outlandish stuffs for Indonesia
Indies Nazis seizing power and getting revenge at Japan? Neat (it was in their IRL manifesto)
Sukarno allying with Adolf Hitler? Hell naw (Sukarno hates Hitler)
really hope the b team will be monitered on the bs they may be doing (if they are making Taog)
november 2026
funny how in may 2025 they said it's delayed to may 2026
and they do the same in november
it releases the day we are too old to play
real
buying gta 5 for ps3 in 2013 : sorry kid you need a parent to buy this game
buying gta 6 on pc in 2050 : cash or card grandpa ?
damn 😭 what a fancy dream
soon we get ps 6
and it will be ai generated
fr
old aah engine
on god bro to run gta 6 and hoi5 on pc we would need an RTX 8090X and a 5 petabytes storage as well as a 1TB RAM 🥀
ahhhhhhhhhhh 🥀
and bro don't even think about playing multiplayer if you don't have a Nasa router
shit has to be 50 GB/s
and a private satellite
and a huge mile high radiostation
don't forget about the pacific ocean
for the watercooling of the pc
what could we have forgotten to play hoi5
ah yes invading poland as well it's good for the general body health
GTA6 will come out when the ps8 comes out
I want the B team to go ham on warlords
China is the perfect (and only place) in which any craziness would make sense
do we get today a Livestream
philippines stream was promised to us one day
Glazing😭
TRUTHNUKE
Dogmeat
I don't care if the gift is a one of a kind merch, im not selling my soul to twitter
goated argument
holy shit the pullover is a banger