latest-updates

[fresh cedar]

Hope it’s not micro hell

[wise oxide]

fr

[fresh cedar]

Arguably will get a rework if they can hit coal centers and shut down someone’s economy

[wise oxide]

i will steal the worlds coal to shut down the global economy

[fresh cedar]

Ngl civilian nuclear reactors should have a bigger impact

They were saying it would only get rid of like 15-25% of the coal needed in a state

[thick edge]

I’m going to make a Google docs on all variations of these

If I remember too

[fresh cedar]

Oh of the doctrines?

[thick edge]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

Good idea

Wonder if combat width will change too

[brittle venture]

Theyre already rlly good late game

15% more resources

Just arent attainable in a regular game

And definitely not large scale

[near rune]

as part of the naval rework (this is never going to happen but let me dream) I hope they allow you to build functioning naval forts (maybe when at higher levels of via special research?) that can attack enemy ships to make things like the Channel dash as Germany more tricky and to recreate the Blucher's fate at Drobak Sound.

it would nudge you to make slightly more historical choices like avoiding the aforementioned channel dash

[halcyon acorn]

: )

[dense gale]

initial pick is xp

afterward

seems to be a new system

so xp matters less now

if mastery is indepandant of it

[fresh cedar]

That makes sense

[fresh cedar]

Unless it interacts with HQ’s I guess

[floral tangle]

Man the guns in there is diabolical

[quasi harbor]

Squeeze the

[fresh cedar]

True evil 😂

[jovial furnace]

Yeah, atleast change change it to another old DLC instead of that...

[fresh cedar]

It’s honestly top tier rage bait at this point. I respect the hustle

(It’s free)

[brittle venture]

I assume you need to fight with the chosen unit type?

But idk

[wise oxide]

why is bonus song pack not discounted lmao

useless overpriced stuff for the sake of looking like a dlc

[fresh cedar]

I already own all the bonus songs so that dlc top tier scam for me

[wise oxide]

cosmetic packs are a waste of everything

[fresh cedar]

I like Infantry and Tank ones

Infantry need it the most tbh

[proud basin]

wonder why new zealand aint getting a path in the secnd dlc Thunder at the gates

[stable tusk]

The next dlc better be a UK and Commonwealth update
Canada, South Africa, and NZ are all being left behind while Raj and Australia are getting new focus trees

[proud basin]

id be 100% for that considering an irish tree but id say we'd likely end up with us uk quebec for some reason and cuba instead

[jovial furnace]

And of course: Malaya

[proud basin]

trinidad and tobago

[fresh cedar]

Expansion pass 3 in a nutshell

[proud basin]

€412 and a €1000 deposit for all future dlc

[fresh cedar]

Yesss

[dusty jungle]

why is the DLC´s rating mixed allready :D

[drifting star]

The instant unlocks

[fresh cedar]

The ship class that gets cosmetics but isn’t currently in game?

[stable tusk]

People are rating the pre-order or smth idk

[sharp spade]

no world conquests anymore if you're playing a ridiculous country

[fresh cedar]

Wdym

[neon nebula]

i agree with you something i thought be interesting especially countering shore bombardment or at least making it a little risker

[crimson tartan]

it was released 4 months ago

usually it takes 1 year

to put the discount on it

[dusk mist]

Well it could be that they join the allies after pearl harbour

[dusk mist]

Which I think is fair enough

I mean they're civilian nuclear reactors

[fading walrus]

December 11th 1941

Because thats when Germany declared war on the USA

[dusk mist]

Quite possibly they were "in the Allies" before that due to the common enemy of Japan

[fading walrus]

A dumb move tbh because Germany went from 2 major powers too 3

[fading walrus]

True

[dusk mist]

I genuinely can't see the logic behind it

[fading walrus]

Even before then the USA was pro ally

[dusk mist]

Take pressure off Japan?

[fading walrus]

Hitler thought he was about to win

[dusk mist]

Yeah but USA is major power he won't get it for free in the peace conference

[fading walrus]

And Ribbentrop said we did it because why not basically

[dusk mist]

Checks out

[fading walrus]

But yeah it was really stupid

[dusk mist]

Yes

Well I'm glad they were dumb lol

[fading walrus]

Hence why it was only a matter of time before the Axis lost

After 1941

[dusk mist]

In hindsight, yeah

[fading walrus]

Though they never could have won anyway

[dusk mist]

At the time it looked very dire for all 3 major powers

Usa got smacked for first few months of Pacific war

Soviets only turned things around late 42

[fading walrus]

True but the USSR had most of its industries behind the urals, UK had most of the British empire and the US mainland was untouchable

[dusk mist]

Yes, although the soviets to all appearances were retreating and retreating and retreating

[fading walrus]

True

[dusk mist]

And tbh i can't remember how well the UK was doing in north Africa but probably not too great either

[fading walrus]

They lost Tobruk

[dusk mist]

Since el Alamein was in 42

[fading walrus]

And got pushed back to El Almein

[dusk mist]

So very much imaginable I guess for the Germans that soon they would break through and seize Egypt and the middle East

[fading walrus]

Australia also pulled most of its men from North Africa in 1942 btw

Because of Japan

[dusk mist]

Oh really

I didn't know that

[dusk mist]

And then the British started winning hmmmmmmm

[fading walrus]

As they were generally terrified of Japan invading them after Japanese carriers bombed Darwin in early 1942

[dusk mist]

Coincidence I think not

[dusk mist]

Yeah there was quite a long air battle over Darwin, for some months

Land based aircraft as well though

[fading walrus]

Also you forgot Singapore

[dusk mist]

Oh yes

It still makes me cringe thinking about it

[fading walrus]

Which was the worst British defeat of WWII

Arguably

[dusk mist]

Honestly most embarrassing British defeat ever

[fading walrus]

Yes

[dusk mist]

I'd agree

The worst part is they didn't even need to lose that badly

[fading walrus]

Not sure why in axis and allies Hong Kong is more important than Singapore

[dusk mist]

It could have gone soooooo much better

[fading walrus]

Like Hong Kong the city is considered more important

In the board game

[dusk mist]

Never played, always wanted to

[fading walrus]

Its fun

But its not accurate (not that it has to be or should)

[dusk mist]

I always wanted the 1940 edition

[fading walrus]

I have it

Its a serious time sink

[dusk mist]

I am so jealous

Both sides?

[fading walrus]

Yes

Though it took me and my group 3 months to play

[dusk mist]

I can't tell you how long I spent scrolling eBay for that

[fading walrus]

We didn’t finish it

We just stopped when one side didn’t have the ability to win

[dusk mist]

Unfortunately couldn't find it at less than 180 eur

[fading walrus]

Damn its that expensive now?

[dusk mist]

No totaler krig then

[dusk mist]

Yeah

[fading walrus]

Real shame because all the plastic pieces are unique

[dusk mist]

It's big and no longer in production I think

[fading walrus]

Based on real life molds of actual vehicles

[dusk mist]

1941 I've seen for like 20 eur

[fading walrus]

1941 is the worst

[dusk mist]

But I didn't want to settle for less

[fading walrus]

Its like the happy meal version as the community calls it

[dusk mist]

Which is best?

[fading walrus]

Size wise 1940

[dusk mist]

And gameplay wise?

[fading walrus]

Most balanced anniversary edition

[dusk mist]

Also super expensive sadly 😦

[fading walrus]

It has two scenarios that one

1941 and 1942

1942 being more fun

And all the containers are sorted

[dusk mist]

How is 1942 version?

[fading walrus]

Good

But if I had the time I would make a more historically accurate map for the game with new mechanics

[dusk mist]

Hmm

Tempting

[dusk mist]

Please do

And publish it

[fading walrus]

Like partisan mechanics

I would make it a free pdf

[dusk mist]

Would be amazing

[fading walrus]

Partisans would be annoying to deal with

They sap income from occupied territories

I would have core territores

Though this is going to be tricky

Might make the dominons one country

And I might have colonial occupation mechanics which means the territory only give half the income

[dusk mist]

This is about the normal price I see for Axis and allies

Second hand mind you

[fading walrus]

Problem is I don’t want to make the game bloated with countries

[dusk mist]

Oh my gosh

I wish I lived in the us now

[fading walrus]

They have a ww1 one

Buts its medicore

[dusk mist]

And not quite as good a theme imo

I find ww2 more exciting

You've got to be kidding me

[fading walrus]

True

[dusk mist]

This isn't even bidding

Everything is so cheap in the us lol

[cold gale]

I hope we get big Czechoslovakia focus tree like Hungary and Poland

[dusk mist]

i'm sure we will

modders + only focus tree in the pack

[crimson tartan]

For a second, I thought I was experiencing dementia. I see their faces and they seem pretty familiar, but when I look more closely, I can't tell if I know them or not.

😭

Don't scare me like that

[hollow coral]

Today’s dev diary will be about the doctrine btw guys

[signal cargo]

Excitingg

So the diaries beginn

[waxen axle]

It will

[signal cargo]

Excitedd

Anyone have any thoughts on alt history Czechoslovakia? I dont know anything about their politics anytime in their nation’s history

[hollow coral]

Me neither but the monarchist branch sounds interesting

In reality a Czechoslovak monarchy was a short lived idea

[signal cargo]

Yeahhh

Most ideas are thoughh

I hope we get moravian and carpathian releasables

[signal cargo]

Im not too excited for habsburg czecho since we already have so many habsburgs but i heard there were other monarchies Bohemia or moravia had before becoming part of the austrian empire

Oh. I was gonna look it up and google brought up the luxembourg monarchy ruling themm

If theres a possible luxembourg monarchy will that be the first in hoi4?

[hollow coral]

There’s a few noble families that could be possible candidates

[signal cargo]

Oh yes even more options

[hollow coral]

Most notably the schwarzenbergs and lobkowicz families the latter being of German descent

[signal cargo]

:o

The developers or rather modders could make use of that

Czechia coring germany

[hollow coral]

That would be fun

[signal cargo]

Bohemia was in the hre if I recall correctly, perhaps they should have access to the formable

[hollow coral]

Habsburg would be interesting

Since most of the population was opposed to the Habsburg

So I wonder if they decide to add it or not

[signal cargo]

Interestinggg

Maybe that momarchy needs to be dictatorship like to keep the people from revolting, maybe if any core is occupied it can lead to uprisings like in Italy, but it shouldnt become puppet to the invader, the new uprising or nation should stay in war with the invading nation

[hollow coral]

Would be fun

Also looks like Slovakia will be playable

[signal cargo]

Yesss

Since the people were quite divided already im sure there will be many different ways to release and/or play as slovakia

I could imagine some random achievement like Bohemian Rhapsody(annex or occupy tanzania)(birthplace of freddie mercury)

[hollow coral]

Sounds like something paradox would do

Maybe an achievement for Slovakia called slovakoczechia

[signal cargo]

Oh nooo xD i dont like the look of that but i love the thought of it existing

[hollow coral]

Take all of Czechia as Slovakia

[signal cargo]

May be an easy achievement or task but id like to see a bohemian-hungarian empire

Maybe we get a new slavic formable?

I woild expect it from yugoslavia but we arent getting a rework on them just yet

[dusk mist]

What time do dev diaries come out normally?

[hollow coral]

I mean for me it usually comes out at 10 pm aedt

[signal cargo]

Oh goodness, if they start reworking all of the balkans we may get a lot more states 😅

[dusk mist]

Thanks

[hollow coral]

They better rework Yugoslav states so I get better greater Hungary borders

[signal cargo]

Ill be glad if they made the croation states at least broken in halves, they make bad borders

[crimson tartan]

bro it is 2 days of non-stopping news about cs2, hoi4 and eu5
i'm in heaven😭 ❤️

[eager prawn]

dev diary when?

[thick edge]

Today probably in 3-5 hours

[eager prawn]

thx

[coral drift]

Arheo wanted to forget it too, don't worry

🤣

[hollow coral]

Unfortunately that is

[umbral wigeon]

Man the guns finally being free

Thats one dlc down that shouldve been base game

2 more to.go

[cosmic falcon]

What are the other two?

[hollow coral]

I’d assume la resistance and battle for the Bosporus

[crimson tartan]

have no idea why the hell something 'should' be on the base game

say it's just good and all but why 'should be in the game'

[waxen axle]

Dev diary

?

[crimson tartan]

no dev diary for you

oh well i'm sorry it will be published later my dear friend 🥺

[dull minnow]

Battle for the bosporus? Why would they add a country pack to the base game? I feel like no step back would be far more important to add due to how many mechanics it has

[hollow coral]

I’m only assuming

[crimson tartan]

no devdiary? 🥺

uuuh excuse me

oh i see it on forum

fine

[barren tusk]

No roadmap to see when sre next dev diaries?

Or features they are going to talk deeply?

[fluid shadow]

Well. that's certainly a big change

[spare mesa]

Nice, i was just watching that Blackadder episode.

[fluid shadow]

Saw a short of it today, funnily enough

[barren tusk]

I saw the video they can delete it

[crimson tartan]

ayo the next dev diary is about japan

huray!

[kindred seal]

How do you know

[drifting pollen]

I love the black blackadder reference.

[jovial flower]

good god this dlc will bring tons of changes

factions, coal, doctrines, changes to navy

actuall peak

keep cooking devs

[winter tartan]

It looks fire

[crimson tartan]

in the end of the video

arheo said

🎉

[barren tusk]

Date?

Of the release

[kindred seal]

Ah ty

[crimson tartan]

i think the next diary is on thursday

[fading walrus]

November 30th

I hope line artillery and motorized are more useful now

[barren tusk]

First is November 20

Second, I was referring to Japan dev diary

[crimson tartan]

we need at least 2 diaries for japan, 2-3 for both chinas, 1 for philippines, 1 for navy, 1 for economy, 1 for factions, 1 for art, achievements, music, 1 for qol and minor changes
it's already 11 diaries but it's only 7 weeks before release

[fading walrus]

Sorry

[crimson tartan]

so we gonna get 2 diaries per week

[fading walrus]

I was off by ten days

[crimson tartan]

🎉

[barren tusk]

Generally they slipt historical dev diary and alt

[crimson tartan]

please no😭

well maybe

[barren tusk]

Yes so next is Japan historical

BANZAI 🔥🔥🛩️

[crimson tartan]

it's still at least 9 diaries

[barren tusk]

Hmmmm

No

2 china 2 communist china 2 Philippines 2 Japan, 1 factions 1 coal implement 1 art and music stuff etc...

[crimson tartan]

i think philippines gonna be in 1 diary

as well as comm china

[hollow coral]

Why would prc need 2

[barren tusk]

Good catch

[vast shore]

Chat

Do I have stuff for you

Potential lack of fuel/coal icon

potential faction upgrade icon

And best of all, Ranger Icon AND ranger stats in comparison to infantry Unit

[wet stag]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[crimson tartan]

who no 4k videos broooo 😭

[cosmic stag]

what

theres a ranger Unit now?

[vast shore]

Yes

[cosmic stag]

when were they added?

[solid gyro]

What could this mean? Got any idea?

[wet stag]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sesame-street-shrug-idk-i-have-no-idea-gif-17243185

[crimson tartan]

so as i understand that (english is not my first language so sometimes it's hard to understand the hell they try to say)
you choose your grand doctrine which are just the old doctrines
then you have 4 different subdoctrines for 4 types of units and you have to choose the 1 subdoctrine for each type
you gain mastery by using your divisions, i.e. when your infantry division is in battle you gain mastery for infantry subdoctrine
once you have enough mastery a next milestone is unlocked, giving you a bonuses

[solid gyro]

Oh well

[crimson tartan]

am i wrong anywhere

[winged jetty]

Do we know when the next dev diary is?

[hollow coral]

Sometime around next week

[crimson tartan]

oh

[vast shore]

They're adding something similar to the vicky 3 powerbloc system to hoi4 factions

And I assume this icon means you have an upgrade available

[vast shore]

They will be in the dlc

Sorry for the confusion

[vast shore]

Hey thats me!

[crimson tartan]

gotcha!

[cosmic stag]

oh alr

so they are gonna add a combat ranger battalion

[vast shore]

Well yes that's what you're seeing here

There are ranger support companies right now

and next update they add ranger combat battalioons

[cosmic stag]

alr nice

cant wait

@vast shore ill make like a Ranger regiment battalion company brigade div and corps

as Templates

[vast shore]

Hell yeah

[cosmic stag]

so i have a advantage

in MANPOWER

[glad herald]

Okay, i managed to get past the mountains

NOW ITS THE DAMN RIVER

Yeah france joined the allies

i am done

[quasi harbor]

Quickly, put your navies out and send troops to Africa

[nimble torrent]

Actual hype for the land doctrine rework 🔥 🔥 🔥

There's so much modding potential

[thick edge]

I kinda like it

More customization

Other than 4 doctrines
2 sub doctrines per doctrine

[fresh escarp]

peoples army but you can also use tanks

[hushed lion]

Meta players are cowering in fear

[thick edge]

So true

[icy nimbus]

so what'll change with the rework

[shell trail]

supply rework pls

??

[brittle venture]

The new meta will be found in like a month..

[thick edge]

Shhhh

[brittle venture]

Ill research it the day of release rahh

[thick edge]

I was gonna do that

Make a google docs on every variant

[drifting star]

Within the hour

Not even a say till will pass and YouTubers will be talking about the lack of exploits

[weary prawn]

Won’t nations like Germany be able to complete their sub doctrines way faster than democratic or non aligned nations

[wintry turtle]

I liked the -0.7 reduced combat width for artillery that was shown.

[vast shore]

Yes

So nothing changes lol

[crimson tartan]

hope so
anything wrong?

[weary prawn]

Never mind lol I miss understood the doctrine changes

[winged jetty]

Will the faction rework release alongside the new dlc?

[tranquil urchin]

yes

and coal as well

[drifting star]

What will the next diary be about

[hushed lion]

No idea

[tranquil urchin]

when are the next dev diaries?

is the an image or smth

[languid imp]

I'm afraid of how the AI will handle the new changes, will be dumber than now or better??

[fresh cedar]

They haven’t said yet

It seems like diaries will be weekly though

[icy nimbus]

.

[icy nimbus]

considering the wait

it'll probably be way smarter

[icy nimbus]

i wonder what'll happen when this update comes out...

will the community be mad or happy with the changes?

[stable tusk]

I think the community will be happy with the Japan rework

The rest is up to chance

[icy nimbus]

also

whats up with the new dev diary?

[stable tusk]

? wdym

[icy nimbus]

this #hearts-of-iron-news message

i dont have time to read it so

could you tell me what it says?

[stable tusk]

Ah
Ok so they're changing how doctrines work
Now you'll have to pick a main doctrine and sub doctrines
The more combat you do (and I think theorists are being changed for this too), the more "mastery" you get, the more mastery you get, the more bonuses you get
The only one not being changed from this is the special forces doctrines

[icy nimbus]

will this hurt the meta?

will this change mostly all of my strats?

[stable tusk]

It'll def shake it up a bunch

[icy nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-rage-slam-walk-out-gif-15166155

will the Ai get even dumber with this?

[stable tusk]

Well the first picture I showed was AI Germany with this new system

[earnest halo]

so u can pick different doctrines from different branches at the same time?

[icy nimbus]

also... are there any plans to keep certain focus trees when a civil war starts? (like the german reich one if they manage to win?)

huh;... theyre prob gonna rework rangers

[stable tusk]

You'll pick one of the grand doctrines (mobile warfare, grand battle plan, mass assault, superior firepower) then you pick different sub doctrines for each of the other parts that give their own buffs as well

So you can do superior fire power with mounted infantry, mobile warfare with irregulars

[stable tusk]

No clue, this diary was just about the new doctrines

[earnest halo]

Oohhhhh ty

[stable tusk]

Np

[earnest halo]

so like i can have gbp with mass assault infantry?

[stable tusk]

Looks like it

[tender aurora]

Guys does anyone know why as Italy I’m not producing any fighters at all despite having many military factors assigned to it?

When I create new airwings I can only create CAS. CAS are still being made despite way less mills on them.

I only seem to be having this issue in the past couple days I pretty sure when I’ve played Italy previously this was never an issue.

I’ve tried creating different fighter variants and nothing works

[icy nimbus]

might be a glitch

[tender aurora]

It seems like it, because I can’t think of any other reason why this is happening. It wasn’t happening in my previous Italy games, however it’s consistently happening now when I play as then. Like 3 games in a row.

[icy nimbus]

just wait for a patch or play an older version

[dense gale]

more like a day lol

it seems like normal doctrine

but u can have best of all world

so u can have moss morb inf

and gbp planning all at once

[mellow laurel]

From what it looks like, all the overarching doctrine does is make specific types of subdoctrines cheaper: eg, Grand Battle Plan makes Irregulars and Great War Infantry cheaper to adopt

[mellow laurel]

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt we’ll see as many universal buffs to planning, and more specialized buffs

[brittle venture]

Yeah but i mean properly worked out might be a bit longer

With the best ways to get mastery and stuff

[mellow laurel]

EG: the infantry subdoctrines look like they’re split into eight specific routes: Motorized/Mechanized Infantry, Defense buffs, Large Unit buffs, Breakthrough buffs, Cavalry buffs, Small Unit buffs, terrain based buffs, and entrenchment buffs.

[civic thorn]

Honestly, I wish you could further customize your Subdoctrines with more doctrines (including some of the redundant ones) as a way to further buff the exact army you are using like for example using motorized or mechanized. However if there is like a subdoctine for cav, one for mech and one for moto, then I get it.

[mellow laurel]

There’s one for cav and one for mech/moto

I’m more curious how the Artillery/Support and Armor subdoctrines will work.

Like, how will the Armor subdoctrines be divided? Will we see a Light/Medium/Heavy tank split, or will it be more based on Tank/TD/SPG lines?

Both?

Also, how will the Naval and Air doctrines be split?

[civic thorn]

yeah, I also wonder how the doctrines that emulate history like the previous wolfsbrigaden branch of mobile warfare, Which was meant mainly for Losing germany to be historical, will we maybe get some more country specific subdoctrines? Like a Kamikaze doctrine for Japan, a quick mass mobilization doctrine for USSR

[civic thorn]

Honestly, there are quite a lot of different tipes of tanks you can make, I don't think theyll make something like a flamethrower tank doctrine, so I guess it'll mostly be broad buffs that apply to everything

[mellow laurel]

I can see four categories for Naval subdoctrines(capital units, screen units, submarines, and special forces/marines) and three for Air doctrines(Fighters, Bombers, and Special Forces/Paratroopers), but I have trouble picturing more than two subdoctrines for each category in both naval and air doctrines

[civic thorn]

Capital grand doctrie could have for massive battleships, Carriers, then probably some for submarines, destroyers and the rest, Just because the Grand doctrine focuses on massive ships doesn't mean that there won't be subdoctrines for smaller vessels. At least, that'S what I am assuming

[mellow laurel]

No, you misunderstand

I’m talking about subdoctrine categories

Not overall grand doctrines

[civic thorn]

oh yeah sorry, but doesn't the game already have doctrine trees split into categories which are kinda getting translated into grand doctrines?

I figure the grand doctrines will just be the same categories we've already had

[mellow laurel]

Yes, but the problem is that, especially if you look at the naval doctrines, a lot of the perks are repeated.

The way I see it is that, for the naval subdoctrine categories, you have Capital Ships, which can be either Battleships or Carriers, you have Screen Vessels, which is probably split between Convoy Escort and Fleet Protection, and Submarines, which is split between Commerce Raiding and Fleet Support.

[whole arch]

Does anyone know if there's a schedule of the dates dev diaries are released on?

[dense gale]

Seems to just be div spam

And rushing xp for doctrine picks

[brittle venture]

Looks like allies are cooked on xp imo

[wooden wyvern]

Do people really play competitive mult vanilla

[brittle venture]

Yes

[mellow laurel]

Why?

[hollow coral]

They stated that there isn’t going to be a definitive schedule

But it will be around sometime next week

[whole arch]

cool, thanks!

[noble mountain]

this looks very nice

[polar jasper]

China and Spain attache?

Also arent the Germans supposed to have an early advantage against allies anyways

[brittle venture]

you need mastery

[polar jasper]

Train divs for that sweet 10% mastery

[brittle venture]

ok but where do allies fight?

[polar jasper]

Also I think it mentioned attaches give it as well

Flanders

The Ardennes

The beaches of Dunkirk

North Africa

They might just need to weaken Axis a bit

Or buff Allied mastery gain

They already nerfed US generals

[dense gale]

Yea

U no longer hold for cost reduction

So Germany having shit load of army xp

Is op

[brittle venture]

its based on combat

ger can do vols to japan

[dense gale]

Is it

I thought if u just have stuff trained

U will have passive mastery

If that’s indeed the case

Bid farewell to mp lol😂

Everyone goes to war in 1936

Build mils day 1

[brittle venture]

yeah but only a bit

you get more from combat

[dapper lotus]

Please make doctrines such as irregular / asymmetrical warfare more viable, would be so tuff

such as missed opportunity to not have defensive and offensive strategies and make it super in depth

Seems more like a slight makeover rather then a full rework but it still seems cool

[polar jasper]

Well, guerrilla tactics is already one of the stronger tactics in the game

Making it more readily available can be busted actually

[dense gale]

Asymmetrical warfare is already the strongest doctrine

The only doctrine it lose to is gbp

[dense gale]

Really

I foresee the art of 2w spam coming

3k 2w to get mastery

Or 3k empty 40w

[brittle venture]

doesnt work because uh

as far as i can tell your doctrine is based on the divs

so might work for like armored (maybe) or infantry (still big maybe) but something like large divisions mastery you need large divisions for

as far as i can tell so could be wrong

[dense gale]

So empty 40w 😛

Tho that mean quite the xp

Mass mob inf

Sfp supports

Mwf tanks

GBP planning 🤩

[winged jetty]

Honestly I wish that they would make an armored car designer tbh

[flat cosmos]

I would prefer a mechanised designer first imo

[crimson tartan]

i kinda prefer delete all designers actually

👉 👈

[flat cosmos]

Helllll nah

I love designing airplanes and tanks

One of my favourite features

[crimson tartan]

it's good when you know what are you doing
i got 1,7k hours on steam + at least 2k non-steam
and i suck 😭

whenever i try to design the good plane
even copying templates from tutorials
the ai is just so powerful

i can't outproduce the ai 😭

[heavy bolt]

aren't planes always the same anyways?

and tanks take so much army xp

[flat cosmos]

How do you mean?

[flat cosmos]

Usually in early/mid game (speaking as germany) I never had a problem to get what I need in terms of army xp before the start of the war. It might be easier now with the new doctrine system coming to get enough xp for units and tank designs

[heavy bolt]

minors

or democracies

or neutrals

that can't send volunteers suffer

[heavy bolt]

2x or 3x hmg, engine 3, armor plate, self sealing fuel, extra fuel tank for fighters

and cas is just stack 2x small bomb bays + best engine and as many extra fuel as you can

[heavy bolt]

I suppose it true that getting enough xp should be easier now

[flat cosmos]

I mean if thats the meta ig…
But the beautiful thing I like is that you dont have to restrict yourself to the matter in order to win. Idk tho I dont play mp games, and when I do its usually for cooperative games

[vast shore]

I wish they'd make more then 1 meta design

[vast shore]

sadly MP doesn't give you much of a choice

[rough forge]

Is there any talk about revising the specifications of heavy cruisers or naval combat as a whole?

[flat cosmos]

Reason i dont play mp lmao

[vast shore]

See

I only play chinese warlords

[cosmic stag]

i mostly have played as Estonia

[thick edge]

U don’t always need to do the meta in mp games?

I just do whatever looks cool to me

[cosmic stag]

im gonna make NEW REAL LIFE templates for Infantry marines tanks etc

[flat cosmos]

Huh? I thought that was kinda needed with sweaty tryhards?

My view on random mp games might be quite twisted

[thick edge]

Matters with who

[flat cosmos]

Ig

[dense gale]

i mean even in sp u should do triple hmg

because air is a very straightforward better

the more ic and more efficiently u can throw at it u win

its not like tanks or inf where u can just use micro

[dapper lotus]

bruh that is not a thing in a vanilla hoi4 for all nations

[dense gale]

asymmetrical warfare is mass mob

heard of a tactic called guerilla warfare 😂

very potent

what do u think mass mob is about

[dapper lotus]

Bruh it’s horde inf

not the whole doctrine is guerilla warfare

[dense gale]

And why do u think countries use horde inf😭

Think deeply about which countries used it in ww2

[dapper lotus]

yes but road 56 has its own doc for asymmetric

Mass mob is not that

I am talking bout an irregular doctrine

Massive hordes of shitty inf running at the line is not asymmetric warfare

[dense gale]

ok i will reword

what do u think thge combat width reuction is about

human wave offensive and guerilla are all abou aymm warfare

and if u dont believe in that

theres an entire subdoctrine wholy focused on it too

[silver crystal]

do we know when The DLC is unlocked? or is still just in the Pre-order phase?

[dapper lotus]

Yes I will reword

I an talking about irregulars

and looking at something similar to the asymmetric warfare doctrine in road to 56

being put in vanilla and being good

not the current mass mob

making milita units and irregular infantry good and more viable

[brittle venture]

The already second best infantry in the game?

Militias suck tho

[polar jasper]

Austria:

[brittle venture]

Just because afghanistan gets like +50% cav attack doesnt mean cav globally is that good

[polar jasper]

True

[dapper lotus]

yes but not everyone gets good buffs for them

only Afghan and Ethiopia

[brittle venture]

Irregulars are good without buffs

[polar jasper]

But I do use the italian irregulars as port guards in SP

[brittle venture]

Lol

[dapper lotus]

nah they buns

GBP inf clears so hard

[brittle venture]

They only have 1.5 less hp per 2 width than mass mob inf

[polar jasper]

Mass mob is good in just being org walls

[brittle venture]

And can be combined with any doctrine

[polar jasper]

Slam your face into them and they can reinforce quickly

[brittle venture]

Actually might be per 1 width i forgot

Its pretty close anyway

And theyre also cheaper with terrain buffs

[dapper lotus]

but you can’t make irregulars as chile or Germany etc

[polar jasper]

GBP gives raw stats for the offensive, mass mob gives raw stats for the defenses

[dapper lotus]

it’s selective which sucks

[brittle venture]

That doesnt make them weak

[dapper lotus]

yeah but it makes them more limited

[polar jasper]

Militia is also effected by infantry stats too I think

[brittle venture]

If everyone could make them youd see meta players use them quite a bit but also their org is lower so eh

[dapper lotus]

I can’t use them on every nation for some reason and I can’t do asymmetric warfare in the Amazon etc

[brittle venture]

But last stand exists

[dapper lotus]

I am a TOA lover

But u can’t use irregulars as Brazil for example

[polar jasper]

You really dont need to be defending in SP

[brittle venture]

Youre not completely wrong but dont call them weak

Thats just wrong

[polar jasper]

So mass mob isnt needed

[brittle venture]

play with player against the world mod as any minor nation

Youll have to defend

[dapper lotus]

Mass mob is terrible in SP

[brittle venture]

I tried as paraguay and wasnt really able to push out </3

[dapper lotus]

Only good for mp

[brittle venture]

You can battleplan and win

[polar jasper]

Tell that to my Poland game

Mass mob Poland defends insanely well and can push if you concentrate forces

[brittle venture]

Finland needs it

[dapper lotus]

Same with GBP

[brittle venture]

No

[dapper lotus]

GBP clears

[brittle venture]

Not nearly to the same level

[dapper lotus]

In SP

[brittle venture]

I use gbp as main doctrine 😭 i'd know

[polar jasper]

Me who uses whatever doctrine the game starts me off with

Mobile Warfare? Sure, I'll play with it

[brittle venture]

Bur what if it starts you with none

[polar jasper]

GBP L

GBP R if playing Japan

Because larp

[brittle venture]

I just kinda pick based on mood

[heavy idol]

why tf am i getting this event i never EVER got before

as france

and constantly aswell

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/moderators-mods-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-old-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-fancy-gif-17832892536946685423

[cold gale]

I’ve never seen that

[brittle venture]

Its a mod

[coral drift]

Rt56?

[harsh hull]

What if Paradox decided to make their own alternate world history DLC for an expansion pass, like they did with HOI2 back in the day

[cold gale]

could be cool

[hollow lion]

looks like it

[fading walrus]

Can confirm

[heavy idol]

Yeah but a france mod was overlapping it

I never got this event in the past and the mods collided for some reason

im just trying to understand why since the mod order didnt change and they didnt get updated

[viral dock]

When Will next Dev diary be?

[onyx hull]

Sometime between now and the dlc dropping

[viral dock]

Yea i meant if It would be this or next week

[cosmic falcon]

I wonder if we will get the next dev diary tomorrow.

[onyx hull]

I’m thinking Tuesdays

[hushed lion]

After gta6

[fresh cedar]

Defintely this month!

[onyx hull]

Surely we get something this month

[drifting star]

We already got one Tuesday

Another one next week

[onyx hull]

That was last month

But it also wasn’t confirmed we’d be getting them weekly

[scenic ingot]

Just no

[sick timber]

Is Hirohito still gonna be the leader for Japan?

It would be odd if so since Italy has Mussolini as leader and the King as merely a modifier

And Hirohito was more of a constitutional monarch

I do think its oddly inconsistent who is chosen as the leader portrait for countries. Maybe something more consistent like simply making the head of state the leader for all countries would be better

[hollow coral]

He’s not going to be the starting leader

[sick timber]

So all monarchies get the monarch as the leader portrait and if its not an absolute monarchy the prime minister or whatever could be second in command

[hollow coral]

And I assume if you continue in historical path you will just rotate through the prime ministers

But Hirohito will be able to become leader

[sick timber]

Yeah that seems like for the better

More consistent with other countries

[hollow coral]

It should depend

Like if the country was an absolute monarchy then the monarch should be head of state

[sick timber]

Constitutional monarchs are still legally the head of state

King Charles is the HoS of the UK

[hollow coral]

Legally but they hold more of a ceremonial role

[sick timber]

Yeah but where do you draw the line? Kaiserreich does this pretty well by just making every head of state the leader portrait

[hollow coral]

I’d say it depends

Some paths involve empowering or embracing a monarchy

Poland for example

[sick timber]

In America the president is the head of state and head of government. In Britain the king is the head of state and the PM is the head of government

Also theres some weird paths like "democratic king" in italy? Whats going on there? Is the king the prime minister as well?

[hollow coral]

Constitutional monarchy’s like the uk and Scandinavia should keep the monarchs as spirits unless they go down empowering the monarchy

I think the only reason Hirohito is currently the leader of Japan and not the prime ministers is because there was a lot of prime ministers

[sick timber]

Well I just think it can be difficult to define sometimes who is the most powerful person in a country whereas its much easier to say who is the head of state

[hollow coral]

I’m not trying to say who has more power

[sick timber]

????

[hollow coral]

But generally constitutional monarchs should stay as spirits

[sick timber]

Seems like thats your whole point

[sick timber]

Why?

Seems like your idea is that the most powerful person in the country should be the leader portrait

Right?

[hollow coral]

let’s start over

Because that’s not what I was trying to say

Absolute monarchy’s like Bulgaria or Albania should have the monarch as leader

Constitutional monarchs should be spirits unless there is a path empowering the monarchy and becoming an absolute monarchy

[sick timber]

So what's your criteria for whether someone is the leader of a country in game?

[hollow coral]

If they hold the executive power in the country then they should be the leader

Barring countries like Japan and Yugoslavia who are wrongly depicted

[sick timber]

Hmm

I suppose you could say you want the head of government to be the leader

[hollow coral]

Yes

[wooden wyvern]

Was hirohito really a constitutional monarch tho

Constitutionally didnt he have absolute power

Japan had a weird ass government and showas role in it is probably the biggest indicator of that

Id argue that both head of state and head of government should be leader potraits when applicable and have their own modifiers

And in the ui for a country theres a button in the corner of the potrait that lets you see hog or hos if it happens to have those two positions held my separate people

It would allow for more flexibility in the way government is handled and would promote accuracy a lot

Especially since people like showa wielded huge cultural and political influence indirectly even without considering their actual government role that i dont think is fair to just shove into a line of spirits that have nowhere near the same influence on the core identity of a nation

[hollow coral]

well he definitely held more control then typical constituonal monarchs

somewhere between constitutional and semi constitutional

his role however was still largely ceremonial

but he was partly involved in politics

i honestly wouldve preferred if hirohito stayed as the leader ingame and have the prime ministers be unfirable advisors

[crimson tartan]

no devdiary today? 🥺

[hollow coral]

Sometime next week

[cosmic falcon]

Maybe next Tuesday?

[wise wharf]

[civic galleon]

[cloud tusk]

I really hope that the MIO's for Japan are unlocked from the start in the new DLC, also that they add Kawasaki as a plane MIO

hint devs

[wooden wyvern]

Mm same

[wise oxide]

when next diary

[pseudo wing]

Every time someone asks, I eat it and delay the next one

I'm crazy, I'll do it

[wise oxide]

guys is this real??

[thick edge]

100%

[wise oxide]

so exited

[pseudo wing]

I had a stroke trying to figure out week 4

lmao

[wise oxide]

week 2 is pretty long 9 days

but its because we already got doctorine diary

[quasi harbor]

Japanese Congo

What unspeakable crimes may go there...

[crimson tartan]

they moved release just to tell us more about japanese congo 😭 🙏

[harsh hull]

Everyone focused too hard on the Japan-China conflict

Nobody considered the Japafrica project

[onyx hull]

Real

Japanese Congo, also known as Manchukuo

[brittle venture]

Its saying factidson if you follow the image by letter

Its meant to say factions

[pseudo wing]

I figured that out after trying to read it for the 10th time aha

[rocky escarp]

You follow it by arrows

[brittle venture]

Yes and by "correct" letter order

[sharp spade]

Gonna miss old Hirohito

[inland bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

i am watching you

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-you-cant-see-me-youre-blind-wrestler-gif-14537197

[inland bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/escanor-gif-5332033664056482695

[stable tusk]

AIDS

[cold gale]

questioning when the dev diary cycle will be shown, besides the one above

[winged jetty]

How did we get the one above? Did Paradox release it or something?

[cold gale]

i think they did

[winged jetty]

Where did they release it?

[cold gale]

69 million years ago when the earthquake hit the earth

[onyx hull]

When Götterdämmerung was getting it’s dev diaries

[stable tusk]

That was the release schedule for GDR, hence the Congo

[coral drift]

Yha....

[gusty ice]

K bud

[smoky atlas]

expansion pack is more expensive than the game 💔

[crimson tartan]

yeah and?

[smoky atlas]

i was hyped about the naval rework & the new japanese tree but the price puts me off

[crimson tartan]

well naval rework is free as part of the update
and historical branch is also free

you also don't have to buy expansion pass
you can buy just 1 dlc once it released

so just 30$

[smoky atlas]

many of us don't want to miss out on the new stuff so the expansion pack is the way

30 dollars is also too much

[crimson tartan]

you can p*rate it
and then buy when you have money and dlc is on sale

[smoky atlas]

i'm just gonna wait for an eventual sale of the expansion pack

[hollow coral]

My fomo could never

[polar jasper]

This will take until 2027 probably

It is already 20% off apparently

Im guessing a DLC by itself will cost $30 or something like that

[fading walrus]

I thought it was 20 USD?

[fresh cedar]

“Yeah and” as if that should be remotely acceptable

https://tenor.com/view/bootlicker-boot-licker-bluelivesmatter-gif-22558166

[hushed lion]

People judging the dlc before its even out

[thick edge]

👆

[fresh cedar]

Should be a good DLC

[thick edge]

Like try it before u call something bad

[fresh cedar]

Doctrine changes and addition of coal will be huge

[hushed lion]

Im most excited for the faction rework

[coral drift]

My Indonesian ass can't afford it

[fresh cedar]

Same

Wonder how the split between allies and USA will function

[hushed lion]

I do hope they change the allies colour

[fresh cedar]

Not a fan of neon toothpaste?

[hushed lion]

No.

[fresh cedar]

I feel like it was just to show them off better in the video. Doubt it’s the real color 😭

If they’re gonna go for a blue, do like a dark blue

[hushed lion]

Something like this would be better i think

[hushed lion]

Real

[fresh cedar]

Agreed. Then when it transitions to NATO, dark blue

That’s similar to USA tbh

[hushed lion]

True. Potentially the nato blue suggestion works better

[fresh cedar]

Wait so does this mean just no DD schedule?

[sharp spade]

They might change it if people are wanting it and aren’t liking the last minute announcement

[polar jasper]

It better, my wallet was crying

[polar jasper]

Isn't that UN Blue?

Or is it less neon

Okay. The UN is a lot less neon

[thick edge]

Btw the US should be like a dark blue

It would look really nice instead of bright blue

[fresh cedar]

That is similar yes

But the UN is way less color

🇺🇳

Tbh NATO makes more sense

[brittle venture]

But it isnt NATO yet

[fresh cedar]

Nor is it the UN

Or whatever the hell that neon toothpaste is

[brittle venture]

It was actually

It was called the united nations officially

I just looked it up to see if they had some official colour

[fresh cedar]

In 1945 💀

[brittle venture]

And read a bit

[brittle venture]

No like from 1941

The official name of the allies was the united nations

[fresh cedar]

More like 1945, this is the widely accepted year for the UN starting.

[brittle venture]

again, thats different

The UN organization like the LoN is different from the allies who dubbed themselves 'the united nations'

Its why we call them the allies nowadays so theres not that level of confusion

[fresh cedar]

Can you link me research that proves this 1941 start date for the UN? The League of Nations existed till 1946 until it was absorbed by the UN. And the UN itself was founded 1945.

[solid gyro]

The UNs own website says 1945 where are you getting 1941 😭

[brittle venture]

Do you guys not understand 😭

[solid gyro]

The Declaration of the United Nations was however 1942

[brittle venture]

I never said the UN was founded then

That was the collective name of the "allies" at the time

Based on what i read for like a minute on wikipedia

That doesnt equal to the UN as we know it now being founded then

But rather just being a different name for the "allies"

That they went by

[fresh cedar]

Yet I did and you kept arguing against it. 💀

[fresh cedar]

Then it would just be the allies lol. And the UN doesn’t function the same way the allies did nor NATO. And considering the allies can already turn into NATO in game it makes sense to transition into that still

[brittle venture]

????

Im gonna have a stroke

[fresh cedar]

😂😂😂

[brittle venture]

Ok nvm got a year wrong

The Allies, formally referred to as the United Nations from 1942, were an international military coalition formed during World War II (1939–1945) to oppose the Axis powers. Its principal members were the "Big Four"[1] – the United Kingdom, United States, Soviet Union, and China.

They were formally referred to as the united nations

Thats not the same institution as today

The institution of today was founded in 1945

[fresh cedar]

Other factions also went by different names. Though it’s not really relevant to the name of the Allies and its transition into NATO in game imo.

Even so, UN color is preferable to the neon toothpaste

[wooden wyvern]

they were called the united nations
thats why the 4 original permanent members of the un were the four major allies (usa, uk, ussr, roc)

[fresh cedar]

Was their color the same as 1945’s UN?

[wooden wyvern]

i didnt even know the un had a flag

im not sure if the old one did

[fresh cedar]

Yeah their flag is huge especially for peacekeepers

[wooden wyvern]

im canadian and always just assumed that was the flag of like

the WHO or smth

[solid gyro]

Isn’t it the one with the azimuthal equidistant projection of the world map

With the things to either side

[wooden wyvern]

anyways i think usa should be some brighter blue

and france a bit darker

with the really dark blue being reserved for either eu or nato

this particular time period is always such a pain for this sort of thing tho

literally every major power / alliance has red as a major color

[brittle venture]

Republican spain had like purple.. At least in their flag

[wooden wyvern]

i dont really consider spain as a major anything

i was mostly talking about germany, ussr, and japan

and allies as well to an extent but their blue is more prevelant imo

[stable tusk]

The UN had this flag from 1943 to 1948

[fresh cedar]

Part of me is suspicious that this is a US flag on its side 😂

Wonder if white would be a plausible color for the allies faction

[solid gyro]

The us prolly came up with it so it wouldn’t be surprising

[fresh cedar]

My thought too. Though I don’t like this as it diminishes the efforts of everyone else 😌

[solid gyro]

It’s Americentrism most likely

[fresh cedar]

As an American I’d prefer less Americentrism tbh

[solid gyro]

fair

[stable tusk]

It was made by Brooks B Harding (yes he was an American) to represent the 4 major Allied powers

[fresh cedar]

Idk, Red really makes sense for Comintern

Gray/Black for Axis

[fresh cedar]

4 powers represented in 2 colors whose pattern is a segment of the US flag

Seems lazy lol

[solid gyro]

my country hasn’t had sinocentrism since the 19th century 😭

[fresh cedar]

Which country?

[solid gyro]

China

[fresh cedar]

Though in many respects it warrants it

[solid gyro]

sinocentrism was a way many dynasties gained legitimacy with the all-under-Heaven thing

It’ll be interesting to see if they incorporate it in a Qing path in the dlc

[noble mountain]

Like the tributary system?

Would this allow Qing china to gain new cores?

[hollow coral]

the tributary system was not exactly like a puppet system

it was more of a way for the tributaries to show how china was the most dominant civilisation

and i dont see why a qing path would need anymore cores other then its historic lands

[noble mountain]

ohhh ok

so many u get resources but they arent puppets

[hollow coral]

I could see how they could turn into a puppet system

[solid gyro]

Im not in the loop. Can someone please tell me when is next dev corner/diaries?

[noble mountain]

So it's gonna be like part of the puppet system

[hollow coral]

if they decide to go that route

[hollow coral]

next dev diary is sometime next week

[solid gyro]

Thank you

[noble mountain]

that sounds good to me

because itll be similar enough to the existing sytem

system*

[hollow coral]

this is what i saw in the hoi4 lan live stream

i have reason to suspect this is not the finished result of the manchukuo tree

either that or this is a mod

which it might be

[fading walrus]

Or its the wip of the manchuko tree

Oh wait you already said that mb

No wait

I think Manchuko went down the historical path, so we don’t see the alt history stuff as it got locked out @hollow coral

[hollow coral]

could be one of the branches

[fading walrus]

Thats what I think atm

[hollow coral]

but some of the gfx dont look paradox made so it might just be the mod they are using

[fading walrus]

True

[obtuse cloud]

looks very unpolished to be official, ik that during development they only make the “skeleton” of the tree but they atleast do some icons

[crimson tartan]

and it is actually a mod

🥺

[hollow coral]

That’s what it looks like

Which honestly I’m glad

[solid gyro]

Anything that comes out of reddit is idiotic and should be ignored

[fresh cedar]

I’m not sure how much content the Qing are getting

Seems to be equivalent to a Warlord now

[fresh cedar]

Is it just me or does it not have the dice and gun focus from the forum?

[solid gyro]

I hope they add at least something

[fresh cedar]

Seems like you can separate with Japan with a non Puyi path. Tbh I liked the Qing the most out of all the chinas so knowing it wasn’t getting a full rework was sad. But they said they are adding some things

[solid gyro]

At least the mods will be good for it ig

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/namztaes-sad-window-rain-gif-23232396

[fresh cedar]

I didn’t really see any coal or the new faction system. Or doctrines. Map was weird too. Seems modded

[fading walrus]

disappointing

but at least someone could make a mod for it

[stable mica]

Is the game still playable for you, even if you know that there will be new, better content soon? 🤔

[wise wharf]

[digital pumice]

what kinda question is that

[mild patrol]

Do we know the dev diary times

[mild patrol]

I like vannila hoi

[hollow coral]

they said that times won’t be provided

[dull tundra]

its a mod

[hollow coral]

Yes I am aware

[hollow coral]

They did say “updated to fit the newer content”

Probably just expanding upon the current paths and giving them an industry and military tree

[fresh cedar]

To what extent remains in question 😭

[hollow coral]

Definitely less then what Hungary got

[sharp spade]

Some people might complain enough depending on the size and paradox might listen and fix it but that’s only a dream

[polar bronze]

I hope they dont waste their opportunity with manchuria they could do some cool stuff with it

[wise oxide]

1 month and 16 days untill dlc

[eager prawn]

next devdiary when?

[wise oxide]

so exited for what we dont know yet

[wise oxide]

next week for sure with roadmap of diaries

[drifting star]

Where did u get this ?

[polar jasper]

Isn't this TFB

The mod TFB

[drifting star]

lol they claimed that was the dlc lmao

[polar jasper]

Ain't no way

I'm going to boot up TFB

[drifting star]

Wonder what will come next week

[polar jasper]

Not sure, but I am quite confident that the Manchuria was using TFB

[wise oxide]

i hope post ww2 china will look like this in the new dlc on historical

[polar jasper]

Here is your "DLC" Manchuria content

lol

People had enough of sub manchuria

[waxen axle]

I this real?

[polar jasper]

No, it is TFB

Someone said that it was DLC, and I went to show them it was modded

[waxen axle]

damn

[drifting star]

No father is insane

[crimson tartan]

i wanna
i wanna hack pdx computers to see new content

👉 👈

[fresh cedar]

Pretty sure that’s a mod

Again, they’ve shown focuses from the Manchurian content

[cold gale]

saddening

got a question for hoi4 devs, when will the expansion pass 2 get a sale on it?

[fresh cedar]

Guarantee they’ll never give a direct answer. Estimate next year, probably Q3-Q4

[cold gale]

damn...

[fresh cedar]

Like this expansions content goes until Q2 2026, so Q3 2026 is the earliest a sale will be

[cold gale]

oh wait that manchukuo tree is a mod, because i've seen some youtubers like dankus and tommykay use similar map to that

[hollow coral]

Yes I already realised it was a mod

[stable mica]

Well, I hope that with the new Manchuria the new Chinese Empire can rises better

[polar jasper]

Yeah, it is TFB mod

[vast shore]

Anyone got clues for when the next dev diary drops

And when Commie China will get its diary

[lofty heron]

they're usually every tuesday

[vast shore]

so 2d

[lofty heron]

what

[vast shore]

2 days

[lofty heron]

oh

yeah

[vast shore]

Do we have any idea

what it will be about?

[lofty heron]

don't believe so

[vast shore]

Ah bummer

[lofty heron]

I would expect more in depth look at either Japan or China

[vast shore]

I guess

[lofty heron]

if I were a betting man

[vast shore]

I do really hope Commie China

but I think thats too optimistic

[lofty heron]

I wanna see what they cookin for Nationalist China

and I'd like to see changes to the warlords too

if they do it wrong just by nature of hoi4 ai it could really screw with the Sino-Japanese War

since apparently Shandong is its own warlord now

like literally the only reason Egypt isn't a starting tag is cus it messed with the AI re North Africa Campaign

[vast shore]

Same but they did say they just give them a touch up

I expect like 3 focuses lol

that aside

Im more interested in the CCP then the KMT because

They hinted at Guerilla Warfare

[languid imp]

soviet partisans could also be improved with that system i hope, messing with supply depots behind enemy lines or reducing trains

[wooden wyvern]

Whats tfb

[polar jasper]

Their Finest Bruh

[wooden wyvern]

wtflip is that

[thick edge]

Multiplayer mod

Really popular

[polar jasper]

The Bokoen Mod

[crimson tartan]

can we change the unit equipment requirements
like to make infantry battalion use 1500 manpower instead of 1000

say yes
say yes
say yes

[stable tusk]

Competitive multiplayer mod

[thick edge]

No

[polar jasper]

why

[silent cedar]

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