latest-updates

[dark sail]

yeah

[dry quiver]

didnt they move it to tmrw

[wise oxide]

focus pack sounds like multible and theather pack also

[dark sail]

.

[left portal]

They already were? Did you JUST catch on

[dark sail]

look at this

[near rune]

they at least bothered to include a few nations, it seems like with the czech one it may just be the singular nation

[dry quiver]

How did this leak lmao

[cosmic stag]

what is a theater pack

[left portal]

I expected this to happen eventually. They have been building up to it ever since the "south america" pack didn't include all of south america

[near rune]

I mean, that's reasonable, we got 5 nations plus a small amount of content for almost all of the rest of south+ central america, but this is despicable

[dark sail]

i hope they will do good japan focus tree this time

[drifting star]

45 minutes 🤓

[dark sail]

to what?

[drifting star]

The announcement

[harsh hull]

OF the announcement

[near rune]

we kind of already get the jist of the dlc(s) but some extra detail might be nice

[harsh hull]

Then we can get the announcement next week

[drifting star]

I would like to know what nations are included

[left portal]

They might do Japan good but there will be some messed up tree

[stable tusk]

They tend to do good for the major powers

[near rune]

new zealand rework 😍 😍 😍

[left portal]

Some Chinese state near Tibet is gonna get like 5 terrible focuses then be a selling point in a himalayas dlc

[near rune]

perhaps they revive the bob semple

[dark sail]

yeah i think they start doing seson packs so this time only good one will come out like with Germany

[dark sail]

then i hope USA and UK soon

[left portal]

Switzerland got done dirty with italics dlc ngl

[harsh hull]

I know there's no historical basis for it

[left portal]

Uk pack gonna have a dlc for Luxembourg

[harsh hull]

But I hope Czechoslovakia can form Zapadoslavia after their DLC

[dark sail]

and add whole colony for more lag

[stable tusk]

What if I told you there was historical basis?

[left portal]

Their gonna do France and uk rework in the same pack that's gonna make realistic colonies that all have a shared giant tree

[near rune]

that's a wonderfully awful idea

[dark sail]

first fix lags

[thick edge]

More lag

[dark sail]

when 1942 come out i got masive lags

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[harsh hull]

Excuse me waiter, there's some smooth framerate in my lag generator

[dark sail]

add evry provite as coutry with whole new system

@polar badger add new system for evry single coutry even san marino with is GOAT ofc, we need more lags or buy me new pc

[thick edge]

The pdx bot doesn’t work like that

Sadly

[dark sail]

ik

its only bot

but let paradox buy new pc for evryone or give more lags with new dlc

cost with prize

[left portal]

When's tbe stream?

[dark sail]

probably around 30min yet

[crimson tartan]

yes yes yes yes yes

[left portal]

huh

[crimson tartan]

YEEES

[near rune]

what's that? content?

[left portal]

mf what u lookin at

[dull tundra]

What are you looking for bro💀

[harsh hull]

Steam updater - those are the unreleased DLC files, and they're currently being updated

[stable tusk]

SteamDB's DLC updater thingy

It should be announced in like 5 minutes

[left portal]

i seee

how much yall think the packs gonna cost

[drifting star]

4 minutes

[near rune]

£10 apiece

[harsh hull]

Enough for people to complain about

[thick edge]

Atleast 5 kidneys

[harsh hull]

They've complained about the price every DLC since the game's launch

[left portal]

expansion packs gone

so new one should be soon

[left portal]

realll

might get the expansion pack if its 40-50 or less

[tired acorn]

my house and 3 jelly beans

[left portal]

its clearly gonna cost 2 houses and 4 rat kidneys.

[thick edge]

I will get it if I can afford it

[near rune]

any amount is kind of too expensive if it's just a single country being updated, just give it to us for free

[tired acorn]

announcement in 2 minutes?

[left portal]

rea;

[harsh hull]

+2 weeks

[left portal]

will the expansion pack exslusive come upon is release?

[tired acorn]

i wont buy the expansion cuz i wont have access to a PC for months and ye

[dull tundra]

1 MINUTE

[stable tusk]

From the Hoi4 twitter:

[crimson tartan]

YYYES

[left portal]

ping on release

[left portal]

yk you can click on the banner then copy and paste it right

[stable tusk]

Not my screenshot

[left portal]

holi moli

[crimson tartan]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3796260/Expansion__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_No_Compromise_No_Surrender/

Steam

Expansion - Hearts of Iron IV: No Compromise, No Surrender

Mould new paths in history for Japan, China and the Philippines in No Compromise, No Surrender, an Expansion for Hearts of Iron IV. Seize a greater depth of control over factions, forge new military doctrines and decide the fate of the Pacific and beyond.

Hearts of Iron IV: No Compromise, No Surrender features include:…

Release Date

Nov 20, 2025

[left portal]

a

[left portal]

well take mine

[thick edge]

Where is the ping

Hm

[crimson tartan]

dam bro

[civic vine]

Raaaaaaaah announcement when

[thick edge]

They came out 6-7 minutes ago?

[thick edge]

Yay

Aussies

[waxen axle]

No way siam, australia and indonesia get focus trees

[civic vine]

SIAM

[harsh hull]

Oh I see, the Czech pack is a content creator pack

Alrighty, that makes more sense

[near rune]

holy shit captain, can't wait for only majors to get them... anyways, lancelot holland, cool

[tired acorn]

Military HQ?

[thick edge]

The normal doctrines are getting a rework

[crimson tartan]

WHAT

[left portal]

WHERE NEW ZEALEND

[crimson tartan]

NO WAY BRO

[left portal]

army gonna go wild

[dull tundra]

WHATTTT

[stable tusk]

No NZ?

[dull tundra]

🤷‍♂️

[harsh hull]

@hollow lion ayo, are you developing actual DLC now?

[thick edge]

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/1335297/

[drifting star]

Let’s go mg boy

[left portal]

42 pounds

[harsh hull]

That's actually pretty cool

[glossy finch]

When's announcment

[cosmic falcon]

Will there be a video?

[dull tundra]

wait hoi4 modders are making the checz one

[thick edge]

Really?

[dull tundra]

yes

[crimson tartan]

i wonder why they used irl pictures

[polar bronze]

Why would they do an aussie tree not be with the rest of the dominions

[crimson tartan]

oh no
it's not real life pictures
it is HOI4 graphic update

[dull tundra]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3796240/Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Expansion_Pass_2/

Steam

Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass 2

REWRITE HISTORY IN THE ASIATIC PACIFIC THEATER

Expansion Pass 2 thrusts you into the heart of the Pacific War, where imperial ambition, fierce island hopping campaigns and shifting alliances decide the fate of nations. With a full slate of upcoming releases on the horizon, you’ll unlock new paths to explore as you reshape history on your terms;…

Price

$48.77

[cold gale]

Amazing

[dull tundra]

NEW PICTURES

[harsh hull]

Again, not sure why they felt the need to call it something other than "Country pack"

[crimson tartan]

gonna get hoi4 on unreal engine 6

[harsh hull]

I can only assume to get away from the GoE fiasco

[barren tusk]

No video?

[near rune]

czech tree seems pretty cool, army confidence is interesting

[dull tundra]

they are just slow with the video

[tired acorn]

hell naw. 50 dollars for the pack

who do they think i am? Jeff Bezos?

[sharp spade]

Maybe I’m blind but no manchuko?

[harsh hull]

Still no Malaysia content

Absolutely gutted

[hushed lion]

No compromise no surrender? Not the name i would've picked but sure

[viral dock]

There Is tree for czechia

[stable tusk]

$50 for Commie China, China, Japan, Australia, Philippines, Indonesia, Siam, hopefully NZ, Czechoslovakia

[hushed lion]

There is rhe trailer

[winged jetty]

I don’t mind the price personally. I wouldn’t buy most of the pack individually but bc it’s in a pack together with the Japan dlc I am going to buy it.

[drifting star]

No new dev diary

[vast shore]

so back

[outer whale]

30 bucks for me

[pseudo wing]

I gotta wait to know everything is live and booting before I can post, sorry aha

[outer whale]

regional pricing

[near rune]

what are they gonna say? spend your money now to get some units?

[hollow lion]

hm?

[dark sail]

fianlly

[near rune]

£40 😭

[thick edge]

Czech dlc

W

[tired acorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0us16uoQ80

[hushed lion]

Manchukuo has to be included

[viral dock]

Mate chak 50€ Is much

[winged jetty]

Will there be music with the new dlc?

[hollow lion]

wdym

[hushed lion]

Ofcourse it would be weird it a dlc didn't have music

[outer whale]

focus pack

[dark sail]

i think japan, china {and this pice of china too} philipines and maybey indonesia

[coral drift]

YAHOOOO

[crimson tartan]

ayoo?

[viral dock]

Where?

[cosmic stag]

YES

[clear pecan]

so is the asian dlc released or is it gonna in november

[waxen axle]

Where content reveal?

[dark sail]

INDONESIA WILL BE FINALLY PLAYABLE

[hushed lion]

Right infront of you

[thick edge]

Wrong screenshot

Woops

[hushed lion]

Unsurprisingly siam tree

[worn depot]

im looking at the content in the japan dlc, and im not seeing manchuko anywhere

[hushed lion]

Manchukuo desperately needs a rework

[crimson tartan]

a few new focuses in a free update, so it's not major rework

[fading walrus]

realistic

[digital pumice]

i like the art style for the trailer

[dark sail]

probably manchuko will be in next small dlc

[dark sail]

bro i fell like its ai

[crimson tartan]

they already said this dlc will include chinese warlords and manchukuo

[hushed lion]

Peace for our time is an amazing name

[coral drift]

There has been East Indies Reworked since 2022, but yeah

Victory!

[fading walrus]

how though? AI art is laughably inferior

[barren tusk]

It's ok, great job btw. I'm excited

[dark sail]

idk i just fell like its ai

[digital pumice]

hope its not

[polar bronze]

Manchuria has been forgotten 😦

[fading walrus]

thats because we have gotten used to it unfortuatnly

[drifting star]

Wait what

[winged jetty]

Also that reminds me why is menguko even in the game in the first place?

[weak flume]

CZECHOSLOVAKIA FOCUS TREE REWORK LET'S GOOOOOO

[fading walrus]

not necessarily

[dark sail]

now we need to wait for achivment where we have as indonesia take Japan, Netherlands and USA before 1945

[waxen axle]

Why manchuria got ignored?

[polar bronze]

Unless they count manchuria under china

[drifting star]

Where is the schedule ?

[fading walrus]

probably

[hushed lion]

Clearly not ai

[outer whale]

really much

[dark sail]

i just fell ai

[crimson tartan]

wowowowow

[dark sail]

or just too much tiktok

[fading walrus]

I've used AI and its alot more primative than people make it out to be

[pseudo wing]

too much tiktok

[hushed lion]

It's clearly 3d models

[dark sail]

3d models dont mean not ai

[hushed lion]

The trailer is far too complicated for ai

[fading walrus]

see

[coral drift]

Bro, no tryhard pls.

But i would love for a reference to Mohammad Yamin

[hushed lion]

As in animated. By people

[harsh hull]

So, this has to be indicative of content for Slovakia, right?

[crimson tartan]

cyberpunk 1942 update or something idk

[fading walrus]

so Shrek is AI then

[dark sail]

finally

[viral dock]

I want the 10€ less because you imolement mtg in base game After i bought It for 10€

Jk

[dark sail]

maybey

[cosmic falcon]

We are eating good, people.

[vast shore]

this is not worth 50$

[raw urchin]

is it just me or is the dude in the video straight up just AI

[dark sail]

we dont know

[north hamlet]

Ayo new doctrines?

[drifting star]

He’s just very British

Calm down

[pseudo wing]

I nearly had a stroke trying to figure out what imolement meant before I realised you meant integrated lmao

[fading walrus]

eh more like cgi

[viral dock]

Sorry italian translation

[dark sail]

alr alr but when san marino dlc paradox?

[waxen axle]

Why manchuria is ignored?

[viral dock]

Because It translates witha Word and Just englishifies it

[pseudo wing]

no need to be sorry, I was just confused as heck for a second aha

[fading walrus]

It wasn't

[brittle venture]

O->p spelling error

For future reference :>

[fading walrus]

it's just not the star of the show

[hushed lion]

Monarchist bohemia

[viral dock]

Somehow It did soenthing like thst because imolement in italian Is immolanento when you sacrifice someone tò god

[fading walrus]

didn't think that would happen

but here we are

[harsh hull]

Bohemoslovakia, my beloved

[hushed lion]

Moravia is its own thing

[hollow lion]

[harsh hull]

And soon, hopefully

Slovakoczechia

[viral dock]

By the way tough i meant 50€ are much no joke

[hushed lion]

The price is pretty understandable, rhe amount of content is nuts

[drifting star]

50 is crazy

[stable tusk]

Teal allies?

[viral dock]

But still buying It for the achievements for sure and for Siam (ich liebe Siam)

[fading walrus]

where I live not so much

[hushed lion]

Ew

[deft fable]

Thats certainly a creative price. 20 Japan 15 the other countries 13 for the czechs+ships and that’s including a 20% „discount“

[sharp spade]

Time to get Chinese achievements before the dlc

[viral dock]

How much for ya)

[stable tusk]

Hello, new developer for Hoi4 (at least for the Czechs and Slovaks)

[viral dock]

Tried and almost short myself twoce

So no thanks comrade

[fading walrus]

a 20 USD for a full meal

[viral dock]

Damn

[thick edge]

Why are they bright blue

[viral dock]

Here a full meal Is 30€ at MacDonalds and 60 at restaurants except pizzerias were with 20 you ger all

[sharp spade]

I feel like Czechoslovakia will have a Bohemia route

[harsh hull]

I see you've also read the product description where it mentions that

[fading walrus]

at a fast food chain

[severe canyon]

No new focus tree for manchuria?

[copper oar]

50€ for one dlc with some textures plus a single focus tree is insane

[little sparrow]

dumb question since i have never bought a expansion pack

[copper oar]

I am not buying this expansion pack thats for sure

[little sparrow]

if i example buy it today do i get every other thing as they release, like the new things that will be in it

[crimson tartan]

i think we will be able to chose the color

[severe canyon]

Def

[crimson tartan]

i hope so

[copper oar]

Ill get japan dlc but nothin else

[severe canyon]

You get only czechoslovakia?

[fading walrus]

yes

[little sparrow]

u fr?

bet almost wanna do it ngl

[fading walrus]

yeah I bought the first one

[copper oar]

yes

[heavy dust]

They are blue for an amazing reason 💙

[copper oar]

its a scam I dont recommend

[severe canyon]

They're going to start forcing us to pay for singular updates to focus trees now

[fading walrus]

probably saved more money in the long run

[thorny copper]

Hello

[copper oar]

a singular focus tree and japan china rework for 50€

[little sparrow]

i got 30,37 euro on acc :p

[fading walrus]

and Australia and south Asia

[severe canyon]

I also think there's reworks for south asia and australia

No new update for new zealand is criminal

Btw

[little sparrow]

i saw for like czechoslovakia

and uk

maybe

[fading walrus]

eh i would pass that one

[dull tundra]

LET'S GO HYPEEEE

[severe canyon]

No

[fading walrus]

wrong reply btw

[little sparrow]

if i buy the expansion pack

[severe canyon]

New zealanders deserve justice

[coral drift]

My Malayan friends (all 2 of them) and Indochinese friends (all 5 of them) are angry

[little sparrow]

i get everything for 1 purshcase

[jovial furnace]

Will the hist part of the new focus tree be added to japan, just like germany in götterdamerung for free, or will it just be obtainable via the dlc?

[fading walrus]

IK IK

[little sparrow]

so no real skipping

if u buy the pack

today

[fading walrus]

yes

[severe canyon]

No new focus tree for manchuko?

Btw?

Weird

[alpine void]

Are they really upgrading Czechoslovakia?

[fading walrus]

it was confirmed by the Devs I belive

[little sparrow]

so kinda hard to skip the czechoslovak one

[severe canyon]

Lol

[little sparrow]

check the expansion pack

and more info

[severe canyon]

Only czechs and maybe the occasional slovak will buy that one

[north hamlet]

The new doctrine screen looks so cool

[little sparrow]

and you'll see ''peace in our time''

[fading walrus]

we still have 2 months of dev diaries

[thick edge]

Maybe it would be secret?

[alpine void]

@little sparrow thx

[little sparrow]

for our time i mean

[fading walrus]

for Manchuko

[fading walrus]

EU4 had a shitty Byzantium pack

[severe canyon]

Maybe it's still a wip

[fading walrus]

back in 2015

[severe canyon]

Yeah but its the byzantines

[fading walrus]

Purple Phoenix

[severe canyon]

Romans

Who would want to play

squints

[fading walrus]

and King of Kings did them better

[little sparrow]

so yes or no, if i buy the expansion pack today to i get all of the rest when they release with just this purschase?

[severe canyon]

Czechoslovakia

[fading walrus]

yes

[little sparrow]

ok bet

[jovial furnace]

or nationalist/communist china per say?

[lethal pelican]

still no malayian focus tree btw

[severe canyon]

Good

Malays deserve nothing

[little sparrow]

js don't want to be scammed 😭

[fading walrus]

you won't

[little sparrow]

WWW

[severe canyon]

Why are they updating indonesia but not malaysia

Seriously

[little sparrow]

idk :p

strike

[severe canyon]

Paradox is super lazy

[fading walrus]

because Indonesia has the 4th largest population

[little sparrow]

and u get a malay

[fading walrus]

overworked*

[severe canyon]

Lazy

[lethal pelican]

cause they want to put it in a reworked allies prob

[fading walrus]

overworked moron

[severe canyon]

Lazy

[candid moon]

no one really wants to play malaysia anyway

[severe canyon]

Where's malaysia and new zealand

[fading walrus]

how much money do you make per year

[little sparrow]

prob in no compromise no surender

nvm

i read that one

[fading walrus]

45625 USD per year

[severe canyon]

Stupid ass argument

[fading walrus]

for me

[pseudo wing]

Al, let's be nice

I'd also ask you to not call them lazy, please, Silver

[severe canyon]

I was half joking

[fading walrus]

okay

[glossy inlet]

Not really

I’m curious as to see if there’s a roadmap yet

[little sparrow]

im prob gonna buy the expansion pack

ngl

[severe canyon]

I mean china + japan + south east asia + australia is not a bad idea

[fading walrus]

already got it

[thick edge]

@pseudo wing sorry for the ping but are u allowed to say anything about this?

[little sparrow]

when danzig

[severe canyon]

Give me a Luxembourg focus tree rn

[fading walrus]

why do we need Danzig TBH

[little sparrow]

TANNU TUVA

[hollow lion]

Thats just faction mapmode aint it

[severe canyon]

Lazy devs

[little sparrow]

prussia

[winged jetty]

The only reason I can think of New Zeland not getting a new focus tree/content is for when they release new content for US, UK, Ireland, Canada, and New Zeland together for a DLC.

[severe canyon]

Give me a menguko focus tree

[fading walrus]

they already exist?

[little sparrow]

naval destroyers op

[pseudo wing]

I don't know why the colour is different, I'd think just a creative choice, since they changed the colours on a few nations

I have no 'official' answer, though

[brittle venture]

If you dont know about it, staff cant answer it is a pretty good rule of thumb

[lethal pelican]

you have to wait for the horse lords dlc that will cost 60 euros and will release in 2028

[little sparrow]

i mean like... you make prussia by playing danzig like in rt56 u take a focus to be free state of prussia

[glossy inlet]

Is they’re a roadmap released yet for the new dlc?

[thick edge]

Worth a shot ngl

[severe canyon]

The only thing that paradox needs imo is better quality control maybe more testing

[little sparrow]

could do smth like that with a dlc that adds stuff for danzig

would be cool getting a hohenzollen monarch as danzig (no idea if i typed the dynasty's name right)

[winged jetty]

I think Menguko doesn’t exist anymore. If you watch the announcement video and go to the 2:27 mark you can see a different name where Menguko used to be.

[fading walrus]

been a problem since I've played games since 2005

[little sparrow]

mengjiang

it's just a different name for menguko

[fading walrus]

as much as I love Barbarian Invasion Expansion for Rome its a mess

[pseudo wing]

which roadmap are we talking about here, because in our socials we already have when the DLC's are releasing (which quarters atm)

do you mean DD's?

[fading walrus]

bugged textures and some other stuff

[glossy inlet]

Yeah

[severe canyon]

Ever since graveyard of empires i just feel kinda wary of some stuff

[fading walrus]

ever since Rome II I felt wary of stuff

and that was in 2013

its fine now

but damn that launch

[drifting star]

Paradox makes bangers

[severe canyon]

I wish paradox would be able to take breaks in between dlc's so they don't have to rush to finish an expansion pack after finishing a dlc as in depth as gotterdammerung was

[fading walrus]

varries

[fading walrus]

agreed with this

[hushed lion]

Graveyard of empires was good

[drifting star]

It was good

[winged jetty]

From my understanding GOE was made by a third party while the new dlc is made by Paradox themselves

[drifting star]

Lmao

[severe canyon]

I mean its okay now

[hard flame]

Finally Siam got focus tree

[fading walrus]

but if Alexander for Rome Total War released today everyone would hate it

[waxen axle]

The british raj got focus without rest of commonealth to get new focuses

[drifting star]

Burgundy dlc when ?

[severe canyon]

Asia probably

Pacific war

[little sparrow]

i mean like it was for the middle east

[stable tusk]

Not a third party, a secondary studio in PDX (at least that's what I heard)

[hushed lion]

Götterdämmerung

[crimson tartan]

it's 8 weeks till release date

are we gonna get 2 devdiaries in a week?

🥺

[waxen axle]

India is not in middle east

[drifting star]

Nah we need the black league

[drifting star]

Part of it

[severe canyon]

Tno mentioned 🥀 🥀 🥀

[fading walrus]

15 USD for a medicore Alexander the Great campaign

[drifting star]

Is that a TNO reference

[pseudo wing]

let me ask real quick

[little sparrow]

... graveyard of empires, india, afghanistan and stuff, we all wanted to see gahndi for a while

[severe canyon]

Goe was a complete fiasco

[little sparrow]

fr

[little sparrow]

i haven't bought the dlc yet even

[fading walrus]

and you have to break into the games code to make the other 3 factions playable (Dacians, India, Perisa)

[little sparrow]

im waiting til it's fully fixed

[drifting star]

Middle East is arbitrary

[limber ruin]

why is the expansion 47 euros💔 last one was 36

[little sparrow]

wich will never happen

[coral drift]

Organize ourselves here
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/proposals-for-a-future-southeast-asia-country-pack.1427427/

[severe canyon]

Have you seen the economy

[fading walrus]

poor economic choices by nations probably

[candid moon]

that's a pack

[pseudo wing]

So, the next (first) Dev Diary will be on the 30th, there'll be more info as time goes on

[glossy inlet]

Ok

[drifting star]

Let’s go happy moment

[little sparrow]

5 days left

[fading walrus]

Japan hasn't been touched since 2018

so I see this as a win

though I have some feelings about the Czech one

[severe canyon]

Czechs out

[drifting star]

Banzai

[little sparrow]

monarchist 🔥

[severe canyon]

Communist 🔥

[fading walrus]

I'm looking forward to it the least out of all of them

[drifting star]

So basically Hungary or Austria repeat

[lethal pelican]

who will get a focus tree first tannu tuvva or malaysia

[little sparrow]

idk

[fading walrus]

probably not

[little sparrow]

tuva

[livid mist]

Turkey is middle east? That's like saying armenia is europe

[hushed lion]

Ireland

[severe canyon]

I would love a focus tree where I get two really in depth paths to give up the sudentenland

[little sparrow]

the true heir of Lenin's USSR

[full plaza]

Well this is interesting

[little sparrow]

Tannu Tuva

[fading walrus]

I want a fascist Czechoslovkia where I can ally Italy

[drifting star]

Dawg it is mid east most of it is in the mid east wdym

[little sparrow]

what????

[hushed lion]

They announced that the other day

[fading walrus]

and beat the piss out of Germany and unite the Western Slavs

[severe canyon]

Oh wow

Poland 2

[full plaza]

Ik but its free now

[drifting star]

Wonder if Saudi or mandate of Palestine will ever get a dlc

[cloud tusk]

Did they remove the new resource coal from the expansion you think? I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the promotional material

[full plaza]

I went over to check out the store and thats what it says rn

[little sparrow]

good no one talk about it

[severe canyon]

Coal's gonna suck

[drifting star]

Oh yeah ur right

[little sparrow]

bru

[hushed lion]

Saudi Arabia probably will

[fading walrus]

we have two Austria Hungarys and Poland Lituhanians

[little sparrow]

i wasted money on it

ur not gonna understand navy trust me

js spam subs

[drifting star]

Bro bought it before the first diary

[severe canyon]

I don't think palestine would ever get a focus tree just because of the controversy, remember the china-india thing

[little sparrow]

who

[little sparrow]

yea

[fading walrus]

I looked at coal on a map, and most nations are fine

[drifting star]

Tibet

[full plaza]

Nah I understand some of it, I played with a friend to learn about it

[fading walrus]

the only major nations that lack coal are Japan and Italy

[wise oxide]

poor malaysia could atleast get a bit of flavor

[severe canyon]

Tibet too lmao

[little sparrow]

lucky

[hushed lion]

Tibet might get the warlord tree

[little sparrow]

i js spam some random stuff

and call it a day

[fading walrus]

though Italy can probably get coal from Ethopia as Ethopia has a decent amount

and Japan can always take Australia

which has a shitton of coal historically

[severe canyon]

I have never seen Japan taking australia

Once

I wonder if dams help with power

[fading walrus]

I meant when you play Japan

[hushed lion]

Yes but that implies giving africa resources and the devs are allergic to that

[fading walrus]

I meant enough for Italy to get by

but yeah

[severe canyon]

Paradox are probably to add a lot of coal for sweden

For no other reason then bias

[fading walrus]

one of the big reasons Italy did not honor its alliance with the central powers in WWI was because the vast majority of its coal was importated from the UK and France

[winter tartan]

I can't wait to play Czechoslovakia as an actually playable nation

[signal cargo]

Was coal removed?

[livid mist]

Czech austria-hungary tree?
"Reclaiming the lost lands"

[crimson tartan]

2 different artworks🤤

[livid mist]

It'll be added

[signal cargo]

Oh cooool

I didnt hear it once in the content reveal

[signal cargo]

Those are prettty

[winter tartan]

Most certainly, there is a monarchist path

[wise oxide]

does this mean the historical path will stay as the current is💀 😭

[winter tartan]

Unless there is some other monarchist claimant

[hollow lion]

No

[livid mist]

The hell you gon do different

[fading walrus]

wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet

[cloud tusk]

Yeah I got a bit put back by that, they might be saving it for the dev diaries

[wise oxide]

why wont it say a new focustree like normal

[next root]

how are we feeling abt the doctrine rework?

[crimson tartan]

damn bro such thick cities🤤

[livid mist]

It's Most likely that historical will be free for everyone, and the alt History stuff is DLC-locked

[fading walrus]

about time

[livid mist]

They've been doing that. While now

[stable tusk]

Well there's a new mechanic and everything so 99.99999% no there's gonna be a new focus tree for CS

[fading walrus]

because I hope it makes all doctrines viable for once

[winter tartan]

Reworked Munich conference perhaps?

[signal cargo]

I hope so, ngl thats one of the parts im most excited for, soft capping factories and a new thing you can abuse when cheating or modding :)

[dense veldt]

Insane seeing the new expansion pack content. Siam, indo, and Australia theater pack confirmed!

[cosmic falcon]

I guess this means John Curtin won't be the starting leader of Australia in Thunder at Our Gates.

[wise oxide]

thank god bc i was scared it will be another case of when germany got the alt hist path to its old tree

[winter tartan]

Maybe there could be some implementations like asking for concessions to Germany

[fading walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Lyons

it will be this guy

[winter tartan]

I want to play naval Australia

[dense veldt]

Cant wait to also see what peace in our time would do to rework the Czech tree

[fresh cedar]

Naval patrol bomber rework?

[quasi harbor]

Question, will the faction rework be Dlc locked or in the free update?

[fading walrus]

not sure

[onyx hull]

Who knows

[cloud tusk]

I know right, that and the surprise of a rework to the doctrines is getting me even more hyped than I already am

[winter tartan]

Manchukuo had been confirmed to be reworked, but not mentioned in the video

[fresh cedar]

Wait am I reading it right, the expansion is $48.77? 😭

[livid mist]

That's prolly the whole pass

[dense veldt]

Doctrine rework has me hyped, no longer will I be restricted to the vanilla doctrine trees to determine my playstyle

[winter tartan]

Yeah. A bit expensive, although tbf it is quite a lot of content

[fresh cedar]

That’s almost $9 more than the last expansion

Kind of a brutal cost

[stoic moat]

i aint payin allat for australia and siam 🙏🙏😭

[stable tusk]

$9 for Czechoslovakia

[stoic moat]

ill buy them separatly

could come cheaper overall

[livid mist]

You can buy the DLC separately you know?

[dense veldt]

And Indonesia

[winter tartan]

And it being made in collaboration with modders may mean it is not GoE again

[dense veldt]

Should be cheaper come the Christmas sale

[stoic moat]

i have never in my 4k hours of hoi4 enjoyed one second of fighting in indonesia hell even as japan i ignore it fully

[obsidian radish]

I know two of those folks and it won't be... Trust me

[livid mist]

Maybe you will now!!!

[obsidian radish]

And Alfredo is pretty good at design from what I know

[fresh cedar]

Same

[winter tartan]

I heard they are from Rt56. Should be okay, although I never enjoyed the mod

[fresh cedar]

Idk man $48.77 is pretty steep even for paradox

[dense veldt]

You gotta give Indonesia more respect, they declared independence and fought of the Brit’s and the Dutch fresh off liberation from the Japanese

[obsidian radish]

Tbh the mod changed a lot if you tried it a few years ago...

[cloud tusk]

I got a response from the devs, coal is 100% coming

[drifting star]

The hordes of the steppe will remain in the shadows

Yuan is gone

[hollow lion]

😿

[dense veldt]

Cant wait to see how coal complicates autarky requirements even more

[lethal pelican]

how did we even get 48 euros 25 for japan and 20 for the australian dlc?

[stable tusk]

I used to play the mod, until I got all the dlcs
Most of the time if I play modded I play KR tbh

[signal cargo]

Yesssirr!

[fresh cedar]

I bought the expansion but OOF

[stoic moat]

NO i dont want to send divisions in borneo, forget they were there and come back a year later to find them starved undersupplied and about to die

[stable tusk]

and there's also the czechoslovakia one

[signal cargo]

Awesomeee!!! I cant wait for another dev corner or dev diary on itt! May be a small mechanic but it may be the most affective

[fading walrus]

bad economic polices but that falls under rule 2

[robust haven]

wut why are we getting a dlc on just czechoslovakia we already got that

[terse viper]

only one country dlc wow

[barren tusk]

yooo guys new zelaand not having a rework in the pack is on purpose???

[fresh cedar]

Bc old Czech is booty

[cosmic falcon]

It's an old one and it's been integrated in the base game.

[winter tartan]

It is not bad quality. It is just that I never found it that enticing. Maybe if I tried it now I would change my opinion

[fading walrus]

Purple Phoeinix from 2014:

[harsh hull]

Yeah, Death or Dishonor was only 9 years ago

[livid mist]

One Word: supply

[robust haven]

we better be getting a tree on just slovakia or smth

[livid mist]

Slovakia is a starting Nation for 1939!!!!!!!11!1!1

[fresh cedar]

Better get a Kingdom come deliverance reference

[stable tusk]

There is content for Slovakia apparently

[dense veldt]

Really though, coal is going to be banger as an official resource. Coal Liquidation for synthetic refineries go BRRRRRR

[barren tusk]

and no eyebrow hint which country is???

[stoic moat]

another word: IGNORE

[terse viper]

and why this expansion pass is like 10 euros more wth

[severe canyon]

Probably a death or dishonor rework

[lethal pelican]

yeah but it could have been a dlc for all balkan countries

[severe canyon]

Meaning maybe some updates to romania and yugoslavia

[livid mist]

https://tenor.com/view/greedy-pot-yu-gi-oh-yugioh-gif-1156091889875709808

[robust haven]

yea ik but wouldnt redoing romania or yugoslavia be way cooler

[cosmic falcon]

Czechoslovakia's current focus tree is literally the generic focus tree in disguise.

[livid mist]

No! You get Forts!

[fresh cedar]

I summon POT OF GREED to withdraw an extra 25% from your wallet 🤑

[barren tusk]

i feel the dev video is not full

[livid mist]

And you can voluntarily become a German puppet!

[severe canyon]

No clearly a bunch of czech hooligans are actually holding the shareholders hostage

[dense veldt]

Czech rework will either make the Munich disagreement easier or harder depending on how they change the Czechs

[fading walrus]

why can't people study economics

[terse viper]

and why do they say save 20%... I don't see any 20% discount on the expansion pass anywhere..

[fading walrus]

2020 onwards things have gotten destabilzed

[quasi harbor]

Higher price, more money

[winter tartan]

I am still hoping for Manchukuo revamp

[severe canyon]

If politicians don't do that

You think a normal person would?

[deep stag]

How does the 20% discount work on the new Hoi4 Season Pass? I don't see a Discount on the Steam store.

[dense veldt]

Actually, imagine what underpaid under Eisenhower will look like with the reworked factions

[winter tartan]

Give me a republican path with Zhang Xueliang

[fading walrus]

something something 2020

[quasi harbor]

20% is if you buy each thing individually at full price

[signal cargo]

Lolll

[lethal pelican]

it was to be autistc for hoi4 or math you cant be both

[terse viper]

that's what I'm asking too

[fading walrus]

uh you can

not sure who told you that but you can

[keen chasm]

Yoo australia and siam focus trees

[quasi harbor]

If you buy each of the components at full price you will be paying 20% more than the expansion pack

[terse viper]

oooh

[livid mist]

Nah Not if they're on sale

[barren tusk]

i think we need further explanation of the take why czeck rework only affect in alt and not historical

[terse viper]

and they oofed Malaysia and New Zealand too holy

[barren tusk]

new zealand being forgotten

[fading walrus]

thats not gonna happen until fall of next year

[quasi harbor]

Sale is usually 20% tho, so you wont be outsmarting anyone

[livid mist]

Why should it Not rework historical?

[cosmic falcon]

And Indonesia.

[livid mist]

I know
But it's gon be cheaper

[barren tusk]

i don't know they wil rework alt only according to steam

[quasi harbor]

Got sale is 20% rn

And its been a year

(rn as in when they make sales)

Ofc, most people probably dont want all the components of the pack

If you buy it separately at discount you can pay for exactly what you want

[fading walrus]

40 USD is pocket change for me

and I can easily pay that off

[winter tartan]

I sm

[thick edge]

U wanna buy it for me then

🙏

[fading walrus]

sure

[quasi harbor]

40$ on the house for everyone

[fresh cedar]

For some reason, I thought the sea plane tenders would be a new ship class

[fading walrus]

I mean my bank account is getting to full ATM

[fresh cedar]

It’s just cosmetic lol

[barren tusk]

we have many question i don't know if chak could answer their decisions to choose countries?

[quasi harbor]

We can share, i have plenty of free space on mine

[quasi harbor]

Pov, you'll never see it in game

[keen chasm]

im interested in that too

[fresh cedar]

Yup

[quasi harbor]

Kinda like the tank cosmetic packs

[dusty island]

The meme paths potentials with China is remarkable

[pure nexus]

I feel like 2 new focus trees and one rework is no too much. At least 2 others SEA countries should get some love.

[keen chasm]

New doctrine system looks cool, hope it's a base game feature

[barren tusk]

they forget new zealand and czecks only receive a rework in alt and why czeck in a asia rework

that's all my questions

[cosmic falcon]

I'm surprised they haven't shown us a sneak peek of Nationalist China's focus tree.

[quasi harbor]

Or Qing

[barren tusk]

also the hint of the eyebrow

not exposed

i thought we would have it

[keen chasm]

czech isn't included in Japan's dlc, trailer says it will be released next year as a "focus pack"

[barren tusk]

yes i know

but why only alt

[fresh cedar]

The sea plane tenders don’t make sense. It’s a 3d model for destroyers, but you can’t put planes on destroyers. Only cruisers up

[keen chasm]

i tought it was a full czech rework

[pure nexus]

The upcoming dlc was the best moment for inclusion of Mongolian focus tree. We are never going to get one 😭

[quasi harbor]

Its like a special type of ship

Not your average dd

[fresh cedar]

Is it? I own the dlc and see the 3d models but can’t find it

[tacit scroll]

I'm glad now I don't have to fear for the one I modded for the community server I play on to get replaced 🤣

[quasi harbor]

Oh lol, then nvm

The way it was written it sounded like it would be its own class of ship

[fresh cedar]

I was saying it should be a unique ship but the 3d model only appears for destroyers

[quasi harbor]

Well, they do say its only for US, Commonwealth and Japan

[fresh cedar]

I’m guessing it won’t have content till release of the dlc as a special class.

Right, I’m in the US rn, researched everything

Isn’t a special project either

[quasi harbor]

Idk what their supposed to be

Maybe its the free thing they give every pre order

Sometimes its music

[barren tusk]

yeah we can say china is fully reworked now enxcept mongolia

[quasi harbor]

This time is a random cosmetic

[stable tusk]

Hey... you wouldn't mind buying it for me, right? ||obviously I'm joking, or am I?||

[fresh cedar]

I’m just like, the Sea Plane tender would legit be a useful class of ship. So why only make it cosmetic

Wish devs could answer questions on it

[quasi harbor]

This photo is actually really cool

[barren tusk]

btw less hints in steam picture for focus tree

[fresh cedar]

If only the cam worked like that without mods

I’m just guessing the sea plane tender won’t actually be a unique ship class till the doc releases

Kind of a shame

Should basically be a cheap destroyer than can launch a Medium-Heavy sea plane

Like a carrier almost

But for 1 plane

[rocky escarp]

It is a full Czecho-Slovak rework, if it's agreeable to interpret it that way
https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1nq0t73/czechoslovakia_rework_coming/ng3efkl/

Something for countries that we feel deserve the expansion treatment,

[spare epoch]

man, they cant duplicate that No step Back/ Gotterdammerung Hype

[marble hemlock]

Whats the new dlc

[rocky escarp]

Meanwhile I have no idea what exactly military headquarters in the Theater Pack means

[coral drift]

Oh yeah, i'm happy.

But the lack of Burma is very disappointing. It should've been THE Southeast Asian DLC, not a 1st part of 2-parter

[spare epoch]

i think i got it, remember how you can assign armies to theaters to better see and amange them?

[fresh cedar]

Wait so $48 for 1 real dlc, 2 cosmetic packs, and a pack with a single country?

[spare epoch]

they will probably allow you to assign an HQ commander now there

[rocky escarp]

Mechanic exclusive to Theater Pack?

[spare epoch]

you guys dont own a g*n and a ski mask?

[coral drift]

Java is Heaven, Burma is Hell
But no one came back alive from New Guinea

[fresh cedar]

I own both

[wise oxide]

colors

[rich eagle]

Congrats on working with the Peace for our time dlc.

[stable tusk]

1 real dlc, 2 cosmetic packs, one country pack, and a pack with a single country

[fresh cedar]

Exactly what I said lol

Bro ship cosmetic packs are so lame too, you barely see them

[rocky escarp]

I guess 'navy captains' isn't a mechanic yet in the game either

[stable tusk]

You missed the country pack in what you said

[fresh cedar]

“A pack with a single country”

[stable tusk]

No like the Australia stuff

[frozen kestrel]

a little easier to see

[fresh cedar]

Oh I didn’t see the thunder one

[barren tusk]

thank you

[frozen kestrel]

yeah ofc

[barren tusk]

i don't know where you took philippines and japan tho because i only have chinese communist

[fresh cedar]

Oh so you recruit captains from ships now, kinda like generals from divisions. Pretty cool. Military HQ mechanic seems interesting, hope it isn’t a micro hell.

Thunder at the Gates seems pretty good.

[frozen kestrel]

click on the expansion pass, then click on the no compromise DLC. From there it's highkey just inspect element

[quick sleet]

Expensive than the first

[near rover]

Something new

But i can't see what

[fresh cedar]

Don’t buy the expansion, just buy the Japanese dlc and the Thunder at the gates

Everything else does not justify the cost

[quick sleet]

Yes

But i don't know because there is also the rest of South east asia

[pseudo beacon]

When will it be released?

[quasi harbor]

They left China right outside view in the last SS, so i still dunno if they changed the colour or not

[quick sleet]

And Czech

[quick sleet]

How much that both

[quasi harbor]

Cosmetic packs always suck... Ngl, you never get to see them in game

[coral drift]

Nope, we're missing Burma, Malaya, and Indochina

[quick sleet]

The German one didn't feel it at all

[fresh cedar]

Unit packs you do, I’d even argue planes. But ships????

[quick sleet]

Yes but still

[fresh cedar]

Like 2 cosmetic packs for ships is insane

[quasi harbor]

Unit packs come with the expansion

But the one for projects, or the tank ones ...

[fresh cedar]

Yeah, 3 models for a ship class that doesn’t exist lol

[quick sleet]

Why they only reworked czhehia

[quasi harbor]

Tbf, i think the ship class thing is more of a free giveaway

[coral drift]

Should've been Australia AND New Zealand

[fresh cedar]

Right, but I’d legit prefer a song rather than something I’ll never see

[quasi harbor]

Should have been the US

[coral drift]

Czechoslovakia can be on their own Expansion Pack

[quasi harbor]

Czech came out of nowhere

[fresh cedar]

If they made seaplane tenders a unique ship class, then the model would be cool bc I’d see it

[quasi harbor]

Everything is pacific themed

And then landlocked nation

[fresh cedar]

But it’s not even a unique ship class. Nor can destroyers even have planes. It makes no sense

[quick sleet]

Yes

[rocky escarp]

They decided they're not fitting it into an expansion

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1nq0t73/comment/ng3efkl/

Something for countries that we feel deserve the expansion treatment, but that we are unlikely to cover in a major expansion again.

Also apparently it's made by 'content experts with modding experiencs'

[fresh cedar]

Tbh I liked TOA so don’t mind as long as it’s done well

[rocky escarp]

I think the implication is that A-team on No Compromise No Surrender, B-team on Thu der at the Gates, and then a new collabaration for Peace in our Time

[stable tusk]

Yeah, some guys from the Rt56 team

[rocky escarp]

Huh

[fresh cedar]

RT56 goated

[coral drift]

They're good, but the Marketing Team messed it up

[quartz sinew]

Yipee

[fresh cedar]

“Rework of the core doctrines system”

Why is no one talking about the doctrine rework lol

[coral drift]

It can be on the 3rd Expansion Pack
Alongside UK's re-rework DLC or such

Or even put it back for the 1st Expansion Pack alongside Gotterdammerung

[rocky escarp]

They're really going to make this DLC attractive by gating a new aspect of it behind NCNS

[fresh cedar]

Surely they never did that before

[craggy moth]

what if the czech rework is just "rise of the lion" but paid

[rocky escarp]

Special Forces Doctrines...

[wise oxide]

the doctorine stuff is so peak

[fresh cedar]

I just realized, no Manchuko focus tree?

[craggy moth]

they dint mention the jungle rangers, might be scrapped?

[coral drift]

Istg, i have no problem with NCNS so far

But Theater and Country Packs are a hot mess. It befits so much for SEA + ANZAC respectively

[woven needle]

why do we have to wait all the way for 2026 Q2 for czechoslovakia rework lmoa

[fresh cedar]

Manchuko could’ve been the most interesting out of all of them 💀

[wise oxide]

maybe tweaked

[craggy moth]

they said warlord and manchuko rework right?

[woven needle]

It's 100% ready

[rocky escarp]

Where do we know about its state of development?

[fresh cedar]

Not on the store page

[craggy moth]

wasnt there something similour to the czech dlc for poland (united and ready or smth)

[craggy moth]

tought i read it somewhere, might have been a reddit speculation post tough

[fresh cedar]

On the forum devs said warlords would get minor tweaks

I wouldn’t consider Manchuko to be a warlord 😭

Tbh would rather New Zealand, and Malaysia get content rather than a modded Czech rework

And no Manchuko is criminal

[hushed lion]

Manchukuo officially gets nothing?

[fresh cedar]

Lemme watch the video and make sure

[hushed lion]

The store pages don't always have all info

[quasi harbor]

Nah, they said theres content to other chinese factions

Besides Kmt and CCP

[wise oxide]

paid mod💔. jk but the road to 56 team makes better trees imo. but paradox also adds cool stuff

[pulsar socket]

manchuko might

under "china"

[hushed lion]

Czechoslovakia is a mod?

[wise oxide]

no

[fresh cedar]

Oh I’m not bashing the quality of it. Just made less sense in this dlc imo

[hushed lion]

Didn't think so

[wise oxide]

true

[fresh cedar]

The dlc for it is made by a RT56 dev

[wise oxide]

kinda random

[quasi harbor]

Truth is i can't find where i saw it

[hushed lion]

So it's probably going to be good

[fresh cedar]

New Zealand and Malaysia not getting content seems like a missed opportunity

[fresh cedar]

I bet it’ll be great lol

[wise oxide]

yes uruguay/paraguay size trees would be fine

[fresh cedar]

Totally agree

[hushed lion]

Malaysia should have something bur what could you possibly do with new Zealand?

[night dune]

can anyone share a spacemarine template?

[fresh cedar]

Polynesian expansion, assisting Australia/commonwealth. communist revolution into Polynesia. The world is your oyster

[left portal]

RESTORE THE BIG BOB (the bob simple tank)

[hushed lion]

So the current tree's content

[left portal]

Yes but not terrible is what they mean

[fresh cedar]

But actually well made

[left portal]

It's gonna be some shit like when the USA get updated there will be a side dlc like Australia's for Malaysia and new Zealand and maybe some hawai shit

[fresh cedar]

I’m just like dang Malaysia could’ve used one

[cosmic falcon]

I wonder if Czechoslovakia will get more political advisors.

[fresh cedar]

Prob way more lol

[pulsar socket]

for $ they'll get everything

special designers

etc

They'll probably have a more expansive naval tree than the UK

because yk

[left portal]

Still gonna buy Czech focus tree before the south American one

[fresh cedar]

RT56 devs tend to really flush out countries

Czech will be cool

[quasi harbor]

Its not like a political advisor is hard to make

[pulsar socket]

its actually not THAT bad of a dlc

[quasi harbor]

Just a photo and bonuses

[fresh cedar]

Ngl this was the most fun dlc for me

[pulsar socket]

just only if ur playing down there

[left portal]

Only if your playing down there

[pulsar socket]

Niddy — 18:46
just only if ur playing down there

[fresh cedar]

Have played since 2017 and TOA was genuinely the one I had the most fun with on its release

[left portal]

Otherwise they dont so anything till the games over

[pulsar socket]

yes

[left portal]

Like turkey

[fresh cedar]

Basically can unite it and be as strong as the USA, it’s fun

[pulsar socket]

ive not touched turkeys tree since i finished achievement

takes too long to get anywhere

[left portal]

I fear australia and siam might end up similar. Good but only if YOUR playing them

[quasi harbor]

I did Communist Argentina and then sent my entire army to save soviet via pacific and killed Germany

[pseudo wing]

@craggy moth you triggered the automod with the 3rd party client emote you used (it hides a link essentially and thats in the filter)

I've removed the timeout just be aware for the future 👍🏻

[cosmic falcon]

Like Canada for an example.

[left portal]

Yes, but the ai does jack with it

And no Colombia

Theft i tell you

[fresh cedar]

Could be argued for the AI anywhere tbh 😭

[left portal]

South america and Turkey are the worst cases

[pulsar socket]

idk how venezuela got no flavour

in TOA

[quasi harbor]

The Ai never unites by itself

[pulsar socket]

but w/e

[craggy moth]

aha danku

[fresh cedar]

Idk Brazil gets involved quite a bit

[quasi harbor]

Ai in hoi4 is challenged

[left portal]

You can put em on alt but for 90 percent of their paths they do nothing till the end date

[left portal]

If they do they normally just eat all the supply with under armed troops

[hallow torrent]

when a dlc is priced almost as much the base game

[left portal]

Agian, probably saved for ANOTHER dlc

[hallow torrent]

paradox is so cooked 💔💔

[quasi harbor]

1 dlc, 1 expansion, 1 focus, 1 cosmetic

[left portal]

Welcome to paradox

Your fun is only 19.99 away

[pulsar socket]

tbf for dlc standards the pass is pretty okay

[fresh cedar]

It really doesn’t seem like they get anything. 🙁

[left portal]

Def better than whatever that balkan one was called

[pulsar socket]

just wish it involved romania AND czechoslovakia

[coral drift]

Very much

[hushed lion]

So far nothing says that they get nothing

[quasi harbor]

20+10+5+5 = 40 (in old hoi4 price logic), but its priced at 50 and still says its 20% saved

[hallow torrent]

expansion pack 2 is almost 50 usd

[left portal]

We won't see till it releases but they'll probably shove in some joint tree

[hallow torrent]

that’s nothing to scoff at,

[left portal]

Same for war Lords but warlords are confirmed to get a lil something

[hushed lion]

The dev diaries will choose manchurias fate

[pulsar socket]

manchuko will get something

menguko probs wont

[fresh cedar]

The lack of information is what scares me. Clearly KMT and PRC are a focus. The fact that MAN will be a tertiary focus of theirs makes me sad

[left portal]

Menguko should get the warlord tree

Honestly

[rocky escarp]

focus pack
look inside
one focus tree

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1nqavsw/no_compromise_no_surrender_expansion_pass_2/ng5onlm/

[hushed lion]

It is

[left portal]

Then that's already a small win. Atleast they recognise it as a warlord now

[fresh cedar]

Did you guys see the doctrine rework? Looks insane

[hallow torrent]

i should get my feet licked from the paradox ceo if i invest in this dlc that will most likely not work on release

[pulsar socket]

they'll forget to load the trees

dw

[left portal]

If the warlords get anymore content it'll probably be in some blink and you miss it side dlc half way through the year with Mongolia and tibet

[fresh cedar]

Doctrines actually have branches now

[left portal]

Aslong as it dosent end up like the hell grave yards of empire did we will be okay

[fresh cedar]

Atleast the Tibet leader gets a new pic lol

[hushed lion]

Damn

[hushed lion]

What am I looking at

[left portal]

Tibet: a place of history, border conflicts, ect. Hoi4:i dont even know who you are

[fresh cedar]

This is a really cool change imo

[left portal]

Real but im scared its dlc locked. Everyone should get it tbh.

[fresh cedar]

New doctrine rework. Once you select one, your doctrine screen is split into 4 sections. You can upgrade any but can specialize better too now

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[left portal]

Also Australia dlc and deploying generals to areas

[quasi harbor]

Probably will be

[left portal]

It is

It's in the dlc sell points

[fresh cedar]

The Thunder at the gates is also adding military headquarters that will work alongside it

[heavy notch]

£41 is mad for just that bro

[left portal]

Honestly expected worse

[quasi harbor]

Arms against tyranny also dlc locked Special troops

Doctrines

[heavy notch]

fair enough icl

[left portal]

I was expecting like 50

[royal lantern]

does anyone know if they have released a new release schedule for dev diaries?

[fresh cedar]

I need to see more about the doctrines

[hallow torrent]

honestly they’re pretty ballsy to give expansion passes another go after what happened with the last dlc

[scenic sapphire]

This pack actually looks good for price tho

[left portal]

Grave yard of dlcs ahh dlc

[quasi harbor]

I just hope faction mechanics aren't dlc locked

[left portal]

They dont seem to be

[quasi harbor]

Cuz im so tired of Schizo countries joining eachother in unholy alliances for no reason at all

[hallow torrent]

I think it’ll be super buggy on release tbh

[left portal]

Benefits:faction mechanics aren't dlc locked. Negatives:new eco system that's either not gonna work or be abusable as is not dlc locked

[fresh cedar]

Factions may have unique colors now, not determined by faction leader

[quasi harbor]

I assume coal also wont be dlc locked

[left portal]

I think either: factions will be buggy as but economy is non buggy but a pain in the rear or factions will work fine and economy will be abusable as

[quasi harbor]

As it doesn't benefit the dlc in any way

[left portal]

We ALL get to suffer with that one

Imagine using the old Japanese tree with the new eco. Free war eco but no coal.

[fresh cedar]

Military HQ: Deploy local commanders which buffs local areas and can effect division designer

[quasi harbor]

If anything they'll make it so the dlc gives you focuses to cope with the coal problem

[woeful oasis]

Even the Balkan content pack just ignores the Yugoslav Partisans

[left portal]

Another dlc locked thing that'll probably throw the meta into the air

[quasi harbor]

To force people to buy it

[hallow torrent]

most likely the faction rework will not work with old focus trees rendering a lot of focuses and even paths broken and useless

[winter tartan]

Probably

[fresh cedar]

We’ll see lol

[left portal]

Yet Polish partisans who weren't successful to free poland gets an entire tree

[winter tartan]

There are too many shitty focuses that give you a faction for the funsies

[left portal]

Real

Then there will be like, 900 new updates to patch it. Breaking every mod each time

[fresh cedar]

No one ever told me Third Bulgarian Empire was cracked

[left portal]

I am excited however to see how mods use the new doctrine, eco and faction mechanisms

[winter tartan]

I have faith in the Japan dlc, I have my reserves on the Australian one

[hallow torrent]

even some of the reich releasables (mainly poland) doesn’t work with some paths

[left portal]

The Czech one robbed the new Zealands

[quaint star]

chat, question. Paradox said "When we release No Compromise, No Surrender in November, we will also provide a free patch. This patch will roll Mtg into the base game for everyone." so they are making us buy the same dlc but for a bigger price?

[fresh cedar]

Would be really cool in mods like OWB

[quasi harbor]

Australia is honestly a really cool nation, i hope they make their alt history be fun

[winter tartan]

The B team hasn't got a great history on its back

[left portal]

No but yes

[hushed lion]

Absolute win

[left portal]

Your not buying the same dlc. The new one only does minor navy changes

[fresh cedar]

Kinda yes, kinda no. It’s a different dlc but similar

[winter tartan]

It is a good exchange

[fresh cedar]

New Zealand hater spotted 😔

[winter tartan]

Czechia is most interesting than NZ

[night dune]

how come expansion pass 2 cost 47 euro but expansion pass 1 was 37?

[quasi harbor]

BoB tanks assemble

[night dune]

how do they justify it