latest-updates

[odd storm]

are they gonna get horses into the game?

[fading walrus]

they already have

[odd storm]

bro im a bit rookie on hoi iv but I've checked the updates and they're gonna add more stuff on them

[fading walrus]

calvary divisions exist

[odd storm]

?

wdym are they deleting em

[fading walrus]

no?

why would they

[odd storm]

you said "cavalry divisions exit"

did you mean exist?

[fading walrus]

yes typo

[odd storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411318627092664333/1418380921882808411/togif.gif

[fading walrus]

quick question: where you really in the 101st

because my great uncle was in Vietnam

and my grandfather was in the 82nd in the Dominican

[fresh cedar]

They do have Calvary but tbh should add a Calvary logistics company too

Idk why countries like Germany wouldn’t have a Calvary logistics company lol

[odd storm]

Yeah they lit used a lot of horses

[drifting star]

This is for Mongolia

Mongol empire is back

We ride at dawn

Long live the great khan

[odd storm]

lit people think horses weren't used during WW2

[drifting star]

Conquers of Asia and Europe

[odd storm]

my grandpa was

[drifting star]

Gods punishment for sin

[fading walrus]

🤝

[odd storm]

lit best division

[fading walrus]

first Call of duty campaign (2003) was about them

[odd storm]

I was officer in one milsim server on airborne 101st cause I loved it

[odd storm]

Yeah

I wanna buy it

[fading walrus]

its fun but its hard

you can't auto heal

[odd storm]

wow

[fading walrus]

you have to pick up medkits

[thick edge]

Most of the German army in ww2 was horse drawn lol

[odd storm]

lit

[fresh cedar]

Just Moreso as support. Not saying Calvary charges didn’t exist and didn’t have success though

[odd storm]

due to low petrol

[odd storm]

yeah

I didn't mean that

just logistics, transport and so more

[fresh cedar]

Surprised it’s not in the game tbh

[quasi harbor]

Where do the horses come from

There are no Horse factory or horse equipment

[brittle venture]

Void

[quasi harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-horse-family-guy-lois-griffin-gif-27498457

My desert country after i ordered 500k horses for divisions

[split sigil]

when man the guns become free

[brittle venture]

Future

[stable mica]

When come the next? 25.9.?

[dense veldt]

you think they're merging man the guns into the game just to make room for more dlc?

[cedar stone]

yes

also we get no compensation for buying it

[dense veldt]

i bought it as part of the hoi4 starter editon on steam anyways so i dont expect a refund

[thin inlet]

cant wait

[umbral halo]

Is Paradox gonna give people who already purchased Man the Guns something extra or something

[hushed lion]

As far as I know, no.

[burnt sail]

No

[drifting star]

What is that dark red state that owns Beijing

It’s not communist China

[hushed lion]

Hebei–Chahar Political Council

[drifting star]

Wait that is meijang that

Is that Meijing ?

[hushed lion]

No that is not Mengjiang

Again it isnt Mengjiang

It is a new warlord

The Hebei–Chahar Political Council

[drifting star]

But didn’t they administer the area as well?

[hushed lion]

They did administer that region before the creation of Mengjiang yes

But it is not Mengjiang in itself

[hollow coral]

Thats the map at its creation in 1935

In 1936 japan created the mongol autonomous government

[hollow coral]

In the dev corner they said that it was a highly requested portrait update

Any thoughtS?

Thick eyebrows and a small slit

Looks like he is squinting

[thick edge]

eye got no clue ngl

[fresh cedar]

Hoping mega border gore China is fun

[thick edge]

(laugh please)

[hollow coral]

best clue is that its highly requested to be updated

so im trying to look through the files

[fresh cedar]

Hopefully that’s fun gameplay

[hollow coral]

id imagine it would be a puppet of nanjing

[fresh cedar]

We’ll see I guess

I imagine we’ll learn more Thursday

[fresh cedar]

All I can tell is he looks Asian. 😭

[hollow coral]

i concur

[fresh cedar]

Has to be someone already ingame

[hollow coral]

mhm

[frozen kestrel]

lowkey you just gotta find a guy with a scar on his eyebrow

light work

[hollow coral]

thick eyebrows with a slit

[hollow coral]

it doesnt have to be just wtt

could be like siam for example

[fresh cedar]

True

Or like a generic general portrait finally getting replaced 😂

[fresh cedar]

Idk about him

[hollow coral]

maybe not

he was the first thai president

[solid gyro]

ITS THE REGENT OF TIBET

Jamphel Yeshe Gyaltsen

[hollow coral]

holy shit your right

but i never thought that his portrait should be updated

[solid gyro]

ikr

[fresh cedar]

I was thinking him too but it didn’t make sense

[solid gyro]

never heard shit about people wanting it updated

[fresh cedar]

Unless Tibet is getting content

[hollow coral]

honestly now that he is getting an update

[fresh cedar]

I guess their border is different

[hollow coral]

id imagine a mini tree would be given

[fresh cedar]

He had a pretty nice portrait tbh 😭

[hollow coral]

its certainly interesting

this is the only real chance they get a tree

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/tibet-gif-23460892

[hollow coral]

he still gets to keep his big ass hat

[solid gyro]

We need a Tibetan focus tree

but we can only hope

[fresh cedar]

Was a decent pic

[hollow coral]

its the same picture

[solid gyro]

yeah, it was actually decent

[hollow coral]

cant wait for mao to free tibet

[solid gyro]

free for mao to take

[hollow coral]

this pictures funny as

i cant lie

[hollow coral]

its probably just one historical path a minor expansionist path industry and army buffs

funny that the dalai llama can be considered a military commander

[fresh cedar]

So is this like a Phillipines Spanish path?

[solid gyro]

I could only assume it to be just that

Like rejoining the crown or smth like that

[fresh cedar]

Would get claims on that

[hollow coral]

could be just relations between philippines and spain

[fresh cedar]

Wonder what that would mean exactly

[fresh cedar]

Spain isn’t the strongest ally 😭

[hollow coral]

but could lead into a carlist philippines if they want to be funny

[fresh cedar]

Probably

[hollow coral]

franco x philippines

[fresh cedar]

I suppose it could be a way of pulling Europe into the pacific war

[drifting star]

What will a Tibet tree do to all the Chinese players ?

Oh noo

[solid gyro]

that leaves the question...

[hollow coral]

tibet has always been in the game

[fresh cedar]

Probably not much. Watch it be like Denmark or Switzerland

[hollow coral]

the last time chinese players complained about tibet was because india could core it and neither chinas could

[solid gyro]

who is this for?

[hollow coral]

i think me and joe p discussed this yesterday

[fresh cedar]

Just bc they update a portrait doesn’t guarantee content

[fresh cedar]

Prob one of japans puppets

[solid gyro]

oh

[hollow coral]

possibly mengjiang content

or a focus from manchukuo

[fresh cedar]

Yup

[solid gyro]

was just about to say Mengkukuo

[drifting star]

If we could get a Japan puppet mongols that would be insane

[fresh cedar]

Hispanidad Filipino is interesting though.

[solid gyro]

Would make total sense

[fresh cedar]

Or somehow puppets Siberia and installs White Russians

Via border wars

Idk

[hollow coral]

if or when they decide to make a mongolia tree the fascist branch would definitely have to be aligning with japan then installing demchugodngrub as khan

[fresh cedar]

Probably. Would be out there though, kinda like Afghanistans tree

[solid gyro]

kaiserredux ahh content

[drifting star]

And then forming yuan

As a secret path ofc

[hollow coral]

i dont speak spanish but hispanidad philippines probably means something like connecting with spanish in the philippines

[drifting star]

I would love a philipeno conquistador path

[fresh cedar]

Effectively is Spanish Phillipines

[hollow coral]

greater mongolia is more likely

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/mongolian-gif-24685364

[fresh cedar]

Pirate path 😔

[hollow coral]

blackbeard necrocracy

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-carribean-johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-jar-of-dirt-gif-5235618

[drifting star]

Dutch East Indies would be awesome as well

[fresh cedar]

Counter the East India company with Spanish Phillipine pirates

[hollow coral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_in_the_Sulu_and_Celebes_Seas

[fresh cedar]

Wonder if they’ll add any special projects

[drifting star]

A true pariah state technically always at war not recognized by anyone

[drifting star]

Yes super nukes

[hollow coral]

isnt that just a pseudo anarchist state

[drifting star]

And super duper nukes

[solid gyro]

Pervitin

[fresh cedar]

I was thinking like a Sub Aircraft carrier

[hollow coral]

havent used nukes since gotterdamurung

[fresh cedar]

Same, they’re useful tho

[drifting star]

Get nuke to submit and 1960 tech tree makes it fun

[fresh cedar]

I only research radar, flame tanks, and sometimes helis

[hollow coral]

human piloted torpedos as special projects

[solid gyro]

BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS

[drifting star]

MK ultra

[hollow coral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu-Go_balloon_bomb

[solid gyro]

Add this Paradox

[drifting star]

Too much wtf

[fresh cedar]

Japan wanted a sub carrier

[drifting star]

What about that wood plane

[solid gyro]

not enough wtf

[hollow coral]

its like adding the holo cast

[drifting star]

Profile checks out

[polar jasper]

We here do not support war crimes

[drifting star]

Anime

[hollow coral]

im literally chinese

[fresh cedar]

Would be such a cool special project

[solid gyro]

XD

[polar jasper]

If you want to larp, just do brutal oppression

[drifting star]

Yea this isn’t stellaris

[hollow coral]

why are we advocating for war crimes

[fresh cedar]

Do you guys think they’ll add fire bombing special project or naw

[drifting star]

He’s a stellaris fan prolly

[hollow coral]

they might

[drifting star]

Nah that’s crazy

[fresh cedar]

Lowkey wish HOI4 had like Strategic V Area Bombing 😭

[hollow coral]

will usa get decisions to nuke nagasaki and hiroshima

they currently do but idk if they work

[fresh cedar]

Already get events from it

[drifting star]

I would new kinds of weapons and experimental guns / equipment

[fresh cedar]

Like 5-6 Japanese cities have unique nuke events currently

[polar jasper]

Stellaris: can we get war crime mechanics? PDX: YES, have 10 more!

Hoi4: can we ha- PDX: Shut up, war crimes bad

[polar jasper]

It does

[fresh cedar]

1944-1945 special project assault rifles tho 😳

[polar jasper]

No one doesn't complete all the requirements though

[hollow coral]

stellaris is different because it isnt replicating real events

[drifting star]

What about internet comms

[hollow coral]

so id let it slide

[polar jasper]

I know

[solid gyro]

true

[hollow coral]

type hei automatic rifle

[drifting star]

Yeah plus human rights only apply to let me check my notes humans who were created in gods image not them

Aliens are our natural enemy we were born to inherit the stars

[polar jasper]

Fanatic Xenophobe

[drifting star]

The stars are our birth right the universe is our canvas and we are its brush

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[polar jasper]

Just remember that Stellaris pre-FTLs always die to nuclear war if aliens dont intervene

[fresh cedar]

Special Projects I’d add:

1. Incendiary Bombs
2. Carrier Subs
3. Assault Rifles
4. Balloon Bombs

[drifting star]

What if paradox is a deep state op to prepare us for a humanity vs alien war like Enders game

[fresh cedar]

Interesting shield

[polar jasper]

I always play UNE basically

[polar jasper]

Assault Rifles are simply 1945 tech

[drifting star]

Notice how the devs don’t deny this

Jk

[hollow coral]

i dont play stellaris so i wouldnt know

[drifting star]

Me neither

[solid gyro]

same

[fresh cedar]

Which doesn’t exist

Tech ends at 1942

[polar jasper]

If only

[polar jasper]

1945 tech would fit perfectly for FN FAL basically

[fresh cedar]

There should be a 5th that is a special project

[polar jasper]

Since it is closer to the 1950s

[drifting star]

We should add different civ factory types

[polar jasper]

No

No eco in my war game

Coal is already enough

[hollow coral]

i love how the dates at the top mean nothing

[fresh cedar]

Thank god they listened to my critique of giving it a wood stock. 😭

[drifting star]

And power line management

[polar jasper]

Coal is already enough

[drifting star]

Internet should be a special project

[polar jasper]

I dont need more industry micro

[drifting star]

You need each cable

[hollow coral]

thats a load of rubbish

[drifting star]

To be mapped from city to nation

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-death-gif-27423082

[polar jasper]

Remember kids, the 1939 gun tech for the US, the Thompson, was created in the 1920s

[drifting star]

The electrical grid

[hollow coral]

netherlands has the johnson 1941 at game start

[fresh cedar]

Thompson had like 20 models though

[polar jasper]

Based

[solid gyro]

Anime as a specal project

[drifting star]

Should be an event like my hero academia

[polar jasper]

Who is this Annie May

[polar jasper]

Is she from Japan or something

[solid gyro]

yes

[fresh cedar]

The M1 Thompson wasn’t really standardized till 1941-42

[drifting star]

Universities building to increase research speed

[fresh cedar]

I think a research rework would be more apt with an allies expansion

[drifting star]

True

But Asians love learning

[hollow coral]

like seperate slots for each catergory?

[fresh cedar]

At this time the extent of it was “Will this kid die of plague”

[drifting star]

No new types of buildings to enhance research

[drifting star]

Fair

[hollow coral]

😮‍💨

most of china was illiterate

[drifting star]

Yea the one who got a B in math

[fresh cedar]

Meh, would be cool to assign a scientist to research slots. And you could level them to research specific fields better

[solid gyro]

average unit 731 researcher

[hollow coral]

your still on about that

[solid gyro]

it was inviting me to make that statement

[drifting star]

Also what about requiring resources for certain kinds of research I hate how a country lacking practical resources can research things like nuclear reactors or certain kinds of planes

Not just special projects

[fresh cedar]

Wym it 😂

[drifting star]

He might have worked there

[solid gyro]

my undiagnosed schizophrenia

[fresh cedar]

Would be cool on paper but maybe a bit too intense micro

[hollow coral]

i feel like it would put countries at an unecessary disadvantage

[fresh cedar]

I want an Undiagnosed pizza rn

[hollow coral]

needing to import resources just to research something

[fresh cedar]

USA would just outpace everyone lol

[drifting star]

It would be better for RP , and yes like most nations importing resources would be needed

[drifting star]

That’s the point since that’s what happened irl

[hollow coral]

its about balancing

[fresh cedar]

Doesn’t necessarily make a fun game

[hollow coral]

not everything needs to be realistic

[fresh cedar]

I think coal will be a large enough buff for the US

[solid gyro]

we might as well start the tech tree from 400AD

[hollow coral]

some aspcts like focus tree can be made more realistic as it doesnt affect how strong a country can get

[drifting star]

Too late Bronze Age

Is more realistic

[solid gyro]

Neolithic period

[fresh cedar]

Animal pulled plow unlocked -3% consumer goods 😍

[drifting star]

Pangea

Pre universe

[fresh cedar]

Exactly, realism can lowkey bog the game down. Like the China border gore will either slap or be complete annoying trash

[solid gyro]

bruh XD

[drifting star]

It’s about the challenge

[fresh cedar]

Millenium Dawn attempted challenge and became an insufferable lag fest where war isn’t even secondary but some far away aspect

[drifting star]

Imagine how rewarding taking a state that has no real science or engineering ability subsisting on a foreign advancement and making it a power house.

[hollow coral]

fun over realism

[drifting star]

That’s cuz they added so many techs

Unneeded systems

[polar jasper]

Replace "Millenium Dawn" with "Victoria 3"

[fresh cedar]

Not even tech, the economy in that is garbage

[polar jasper]

Except lag fest

[fresh cedar]

Bro if you stockpile weapons it costs you money

Like YESS my 5000 mosin nagants dipped in cosmoline WOULD cost be 1 trillion GDP a year

Terrible mod, they ruined it. Was fun within the first 3 years of HOI4 then became unbearable

[polar jasper]

What if you store them in the international market

Do you win

[fresh cedar]

No one wins 😭

[solid gyro]

except the market

[fresh cedar]

I remade senor hitler

But he kinda looks like colonel sanders

[wooden wyvern]

well a resource distribution rework would need to happen

africa has literally nothing in it

while the usa has like 99% of the oil in the game for whatever reason

in general resources are heavily skewed towards majors

[hoary siren]

As they should be

[fresh cedar]

I disagree. I think sometimes it would be nice to have them in other locations too so they are forced to fight over them

[prisma sierra]

hello

[polar jasper]

Howdy

[wooden wyvern]

removes literally the entire point of resources but ok

and also just removes like half the depth that geopolitics, military strategy, and political alignment all had during ww2 historically

[fast notch]

slop

[brisk patrol]

Agreed

[wise oxide]

tomorrow is the day

[waxen axle]

I cant wait the epic trailer for announcement

[hollow coral]

Can we bring it back to the name of the next dlc and potentially the country pack

My best bet is “War or Resistance”

Most used nickname of the second sino japanese war

And just rolls off the tongue

[solid gyro]

Ur right

[wise oxide]

if it will be a teaser trailer with sand and 1 crab i will cry

[waxen axle]

Im sure annoucement is a trailer

[cosmic stag]

i hope the new DLC adds more units and templates

[hollow lion]

They did show some sort of forest unit in a dev diary

[dire coyote]

whens announcment

[obtuse cloud]

brainstorming about names?

[mild patrol]

Where can i see it like on the offical site or???

[hushed lion]

Wdym?

[mild patrol]

Like how did u acces the road map

[hushed lion]

Stole this one from someone on the server, however this is on the paradox website

[mild patrol]

Ok

[frozen kestrel]

Very top of the forums in the dev corner(s) blog 😭

[quick sleet]

Yes it stupid you always have -

[cold gale]

i feel a bit stupid since i got a playtest, and i account locked myself 💀

[signal cargo]

Ripp

Any ideas on the nation we havent been shown yet?

[barren tusk]

tomorrow mongolian focus tree reveal

trust me guys

[mild patrol]

Maybe usa reaveal?

[hushed lion]

Usa reveal for what?

It most certainly won't be in this dlc, nor the country pack afterwards

[mild patrol]

True i still have hope thou

[barren tusk]

hell naw they will end with axis faction

major countries

[mild patrol]

Ngl what could u even do as mongolia

[barren tusk]

afterwards yes we have allies rework

[barren tusk]

genghis khan land

[mild patrol]

Hopefully france is included

[barren tusk]

hmmm

[hushed lion]

Czechoslovakia needs an update

[barren tusk]

they might go to the man of guns countris rework

which are MEXICO USA NETHERLANDS

and UK

my thoughts are USA will be the biggest change of the DLC adding a new system for the parliament

[mild patrol]

Nethelands does not need a rework in my opinion

[hushed lion]

Usa will finally go any other path other than historical

[barren tusk]

the thing is reworks are linked with the DLC they released. for example the next DLC are china and japan because both were the same DLC "walking of the tiger" (i believe). so next year is man of guns

[mild patrol]

France is way need of an rework

[barren tusk]

i'm curious which will be the country pack

last year the german rework was with hungary as well. both same DLC

there is a pattern

[hollow coral]

Southeast asia most likely

[hollow coral]

The reworks are the majors and the countrys that compliment them

Italy had ethiopia and seitzerland

Ussr had poland and baltics

Japan had china

[barren tusk]

Ok those were new

But right now they are reworking big nations that in the past they had focus tree

[hollow coral]

Germany has austria hungary and belgium

Future rrwork like for example uk would probably have the commonwealth and ireland

[barren tusk]

• addition for countries with no focus tree

[violet nexus]

Mongolia will be there

[barren tusk]

Ah yes pretty sure

But man of guns will be usa and mexico rework

[hollow coral]

Potentially in the next dlc they could get a tree

But more or less just skeleton content

Portraits and decisions

[violet nexus]

I think they will get one on the same as japan

[hollow coral]

Thats the outlier

[barren tusk]

We still have one more focus tree addition

[hollow coral]

Doubt

There isnt any hint that anymore countries will be revealed

So far the roster is japan prc roc philippines and a manchukuo update

Probably mengjiang content too

Mongol content is possible

[violet nexus]

Otherwise they would be too isolated and not worth to rework even in a country pack

[barren tusk]

Horse focus tree

Remember

[hollow coral]

Could be hinting to mengjiang

Could be hinting to mongolia

Either one

[violet nexus]

That's why i think of mongolia

I think mengjiang will have one like iceland

Much smaller but a little something

[barren tusk]

I heard it could be Tibet as well

[hollow coral]

This hint also the mystery leader is the tibetan leader

I dont think i heard anything about wanting to update the guys portrait

This could mean a tibet tree

[barren tusk]

So tomorrow the announcement is all the content in a dev corner NOT a premier video?

[hollow coral]

Ir skeleton content

[barren tusk]

At least is something to play

For the fun

[hollow coral]

Its announcing the dlc and potentially the country pack

There might be a video

[barren tusk]

But in a video as well?

Ahh

[violet nexus]

Would be nice to see both

But usually there is a video

[hollow coral]

Yeah they usually show the dlc teaser trailer

[barren tusk]

Huge so the drop of the japanese focus tree will be on November?

[violet nexus]

Maybe october if we're lucky

But last year it was december wasn't it?

[hollow coral]

I wonder since they are adding the updated historical tree to people without the dlc they will update the alt his to be less lacking

[hollow coral]

It was november if i remember correctly

[barren tusk]

November 16

A Thursday

I think

Might we expect tomorrow announcement at the same hour as they generally published dev corners?

[violet nexus]

Do you think they will propose something like a second expension pass?

[hollow coral]

So currently we know for sure that japan roc prc manchukuo and h
Philippines will be reworked a mengjiang or mongol or both will be getting content and tibet will be getting content

[barren tusk]

Probably

[hollow coral]

Expansion pass 2 is very likely

[drifting star]

Love all the people upset that the dlc is being merged with base game

[violet nexus]

So they could publish a third mini content addition?

[hollow coral]

There was one guy here pouting about it last night

[violet nexus]

Like the prototype pact

[drifting star]

What a idiot

[hollow coral]

I hope its either music pack or portrait pack

Just for flavour

[drifting star]

How about just more features

Just make the pass have 2 expansions

No country pack

[violet nexus]

Better that then hoping to get more special project

[drifting star]

That will prolly come with every update

[hollow coral]

You just want the usa rework dont you

So they need to start coding right away after they release the dlc?

[drifting star]

USA and UK also Canada

[drifting star]

More like yesterday

[violet nexus]

You do know that an expension pass is just a combination not a dlc on its own

[drifting star]

I meant two dlc level updates

Instead of one dlc and one pack , two dlcs

[brittle venture]

?

Theres 2 teams

[hollow coral]

Honestly i hope the b team for the countrypack gets there game together and they learned from their mistakes

[brittle venture]

One for countrypacks and one for major dlcs

[drifting star]

The packs always suck

[brittle venture]

They both take like a year to make

[brittle venture]

Then dont buy them

[drifting star]

If they rework turkey I’ll think about it

[hollow coral]

Lets see first before you judge

[drifting star]

Fair

[hollow coral]

Things can change

[drifting star]

Actually I like South America

[hollow coral]

Trial of allegiance isnt that bad

[drifting star]

Just not that awful awful graveyard of empires

[hollow coral]

Atleast the paths are fun

[drifting star]

Loved 4th reich path

And monarchist arucania path

What would be nice is a rework of Turkey and Greece

[hollow coral]

The substance of the turkish tree isnt actually bad

But greece i feel like got the short end of the stick in that countrypack

[cold gale]

OH, now i recognize it

[drifting star]

Ottoman path sucks overall and it takes too long to do without enough buffs to compete against regional powers

[hollow coral]

Honestly the way you even get to it is very convoluted that you probably would need to search it up just to get to it

[barren tusk]

What's his name

[cold gale]

its the generic tibet leader

Jamphel Yeshe Gyaltsen

i feel like paradox spies gonna yeet me now after saying that, just figuring it out due to eye shape 💀

[barren tusk]

Good hint

[hollow coral]

I dont think a lot of people were asking for his portrait to be updated

[barren tusk]

tibet’s is slightly thinner and mongolia’s is slightly thicker

[hollow coral]

So they mustve done it for a reason

[cold gale]

same eyeshape though...

[hollow coral]

It is the same guy

[cold gale]

exactly

[hollow coral]

Actually its the same photo reference

But ig they are using the new artstyle

[barren tusk]

I will be offended but I will take it

[hollow coral]

So looks like tibet content

[barren tusk]

I prefer Mongolia focus tree

[hollow coral]

Mongolia isnt not possible

[wise oxide]

paradox is so smart for adding coal its the best thing they did since the ai improvements in germany dlc

[cold gale]

just gonna post this part

i made the portrait higher res so it's able to be seen, but that's how i figured it out

[hollow coral]

Already hate it and its not even out yet

But we will see how it actually works ingame

[wise oxide]

why? its balance + realism + fun

[cold gale]

its probably gonna be with the dlc as a mini part similar to paraguay and uraguay in ToA

[hollow coral]

Making something more realistic doesnt make it always fun

[wise oxide]

its kinda like oil for industry

[cold gale]

thought graveyard of empires but realized there wasnt smth like that

[wise oxide]

balance is fun

[hollow coral]

Its just another way to screw minors and strengthen majors

[barren tusk]

Coal is a huge buff for Europe a kerf for america

[wise oxide]

i dont think so some minors might gain trade factories from the coal they dont use

[wise oxide]

germany will be a powerhouse i hope they balance it well

[hollow coral]

Industry was never the focus of the game sure you run off industry but the point wasnt to manage the industry

[barren tusk]

What's next uranium for nuclear bomb?

[cold gale]

that should've been there in gotterdammerung

[wise oxide]

so you love how current usa works? running out of buildingslots and stopping to care bc you have infinite industry

[cold gale]

since man the guns is getting integrated, usa should be reworked 🤷‍♂️

[hollow coral]

I dont play usa like at all

[wise oxide]

then you dont know how bad it is

[barren tusk]

I love your pfo

Pfp*

[hollow coral]

Thank you my friend told me to use it

[hollow coral]

I can tell its very broken but they couldve added something else to limit this other than adding a whole new resource

[wise oxide]

coal is love

[barren tusk]

Will coal have several impacts on trains?

[thick edge]

Do u mean severe?

[wise oxide]

do trains use fuel even?

[thick edge]

Yes

Steam engines

[thick edge]

I hope not though

[barren tusk]

Thank you

[barren tusk]

I know you

Where is your gigachad pfo

[near rune]

I really hope that the china dlc's background art thingy is an alternate view of this, this time from the japanese perspective

[wise oxide]

how broken will china and japan be late game yall think?

[hollow coral]

Yes japanese charging in to commit warcrimes

[wise oxide]

rn china has a focus for 15% core defence

[thick edge]

I’m to lazy to switch the server pfp to the gigachad pfp

[near rune]

that's not much

[barren tusk]

-100 of aura

[wise oxide]

for 1 focus its alot

[barren tusk]

Btw chat did they mention if we will have squad 741 political decisions?

Or something?

[near rune]

and it's useless outside of china though most of your fighting will be on cores I guess

[drifting star]

No what

[hollow coral]

Thats like adding holocast decisions

[drifting star]

Brodie thinks this is stellaris

[barren tusk]

To add more realism

[drifting star]

Bro

[wise oxide]

lmao are you serious?

[near rune]

Finland's tree gives some pretty awesome army buffs in only a few focuses

[hollow coral]

Are we deadass

[barren tusk]

Yo yo yo, calm down

[drifting star]

If u wanted realism add a budget

[hollow coral]

Why not just add the holocast too with that

[drifting star]

Maybe crippling deficit

Taxes

[hollow coral]

Actual warcrimes

[drifting star]

Treaties

[near rune]

women in the workforce 😟

[drifting star]

Bi lateral agreements

[barren tusk]

I mean sounds crazy yeah but remember we have in USSR decisions to kill our traitors

[drifting star]

Let’s not get to liberal calm down next thing you’ll say is they should vote

[hollow coral]

Even chak has to come in here

[drifting star]

*re educate

[pseudo wing]

Never going to be a thing, has already been stated before.

Please do not ask again.

oop, wrong reply apologies

[wise oxide]

paradox wont do much war crime stuff

[drifting star]

Hi chak

[hollow coral]

All good

[drifting star]

Will the reveal be live ?

[pseudo wing]

people sent their messages and I clicked the wrong reply smh lmao

[drifting star]

Or just a post ?

[near rune]

but they allow women in the workforce? and free elections? foul.

[hollow coral]

Thats kinda different since they are political events aimed at politicians and generals

[wise oxide]

what is the most evil thing in hoi 4?

[near rune]

germany needs debuffs

[wise oxide]

nuking highly populated cities millions of times for no reason?

[drifting star]

Can we get Ammin Al Husseini for Palestine ?

[wise oxide]

then ai germany will be too weak

[drifting star]

He’s already an advisor for Iraq

[hollow coral]

The populations dont even go down so did the nukes really happen?

[near rune]

they could rework the ai like they did with the UK

[hollow coral]

Actually his portrait is in the files

[drifting star]

Yea but it’s not as the leader it shows a generic 💀

[wise oxide]

fr nobody dies in hoi 4 exept for chileans during a natural disaster

[hollow coral]

Before the few reworks to goe he was set as the leader of fascist palestine but he was using a generic portrait for some reason

[barren tusk]

Nukes are used to destroy supply hubs and hurting factories

[wise oxide]

any other events where population decreases?

[barren tusk]

Damaging*

[hollow coral]

I actually flagged this to the paradox forums and they said they would fix it

Yet to see it being fixed

[drifting star]

Maybe they were gunna have some paly content and then pr called them

[pseudo wing]

give me a link to the report

[hollow coral]

Because now its just a randomly generated guy

[pseudo wing]

I'll flag it again

[near rune]

the ol' paradox classic is add slop nations with no content to generate lag, and palestine is one of those

[hollow coral]

Thread 'Portraits not showing for palestine and madras princely state' https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/portraits-not-showing-for-palestine-and-madras-princely-state.1733684/

Madras state was fixed if i remember

[drifting star]

Question are there any plans to add the Iraqi Shia monarchy and Bahai global revolution path (Afghanistan ) that’s in the game files ? Hope ur having a good day

[hollow coral]

If they decide the revisit them in future war efforts maybe

Theres actually a lot of stuff in the files that show they were planning more

[drifting star]

I love when they add history I have never heard of

[hollow coral]

But ig they had to meet deadlines

[drifting star]

Yes fair , it’s a business end of day

Q1 is Q1

I respect that

[tawdry condor]

When is the update releasing

[hushed lion]

Hasn't been announced yet, however it i presumably late November / December

[tawdry condor]

Damn they started teasing it really early

[fresh cedar]

Yeah we figured it out last night

[torn dawn]

This is my fear. I’m getting flashbacks to waking the tiger where they started teasing it then dragged it out over months

[fresh cedar]

Should be announced tomorrow. I’d bet December but if it was earlier that would be a welcome surprise

[cold gale]

damn

[cold gale]

Ohhhh

i thought he was the actual dalai llama

[fresh cedar]

I’m not sure if it’s just a new picture or content

Bc presumably Korea was going to get pictures and no content

[cold gale]

probably some kinda content like iceland

[fresh cedar]

Idk, Korea was going to get added and have zero content. And I’d argue Korea is more integral to this DLC than Tibet

Who knows though

[mild patrol]

The dlc might be called the rising sun or smth like that

[drifting star]

That would be fire

Flame of tradition

[fresh cedar]

@pseudo wing Submarine Carrier special project when

[drifting star]

That’s an actual thing

[fresh cedar]

Japan wanted to make it

Well they made 3

It’s not much of a carrier bc could only carry 3 aircraft. But could be a cool addition

Would basically be a carrier for sub fleets

[dull tundra]

Would be an awesome special project and focus in the Japan tree

[fresh cedar]

Could really benefit Germany too tbh

[dull tundra]

Yeah Atlanta sub carrier patrols!

[dark sail]

do you think guys this update will be this year or next?

[onyx hull]

Probably this year

[brittle venture]

In game thatd be busted

Very busted

[fresh cedar]

3 planes per carrier, 4 carriers per fleet, so 12 planes a fleet

Idk about busted

[brittle venture]

You get full wing efficiency at a wing of 3

And planes insta reinforce

So it is very busted in game

Just not irl

[fresh cedar]

But would have less stealth and speed. So would nerf the fleet, have to disagree

[brittle venture]

Just

Make a fleet

4 subs

Dont need more

[pseudo wing]

but what kind of ship class would it be? Just a special model of carrier with more speed or smth or would it be a submarine with air support?

I think its cool but it'd be hard to implement in general

[fresh cedar]

Carrier basically but with stealth closer to subs

Has way less “deck space”

[pseudo wing]

what of the balance implications, though? Of course it's cool but idk how it'd fare with the other carriers because I can see it working but not sure how much deck space you remove to ensure it's 'balanced'

[pastel lantern]

You already have the midget submarine for stealth

[brittle venture]

As someone who plays with good players itd be abused SO hard

Even if its 3 planes it doesnt matter

You just make more

[fresh cedar]

Wait till you hear about nukes 😂

[brittle venture]

Theyre super late game

Theyre like the ultimate tiebreaker

[fresh cedar]

And these weren’t used till 1944 on

Around the same time people get nukes

[fresh cedar]

Midget subs play a diff role though

[pastel lantern]

They can sink stuff

[fresh cedar]

Less so for carrier on carrier warfare and Moreso assisting other sub missions

[pastel lantern]

And are insanely hard to spot

Probably the most op naval unit

[fresh cedar]

Idk about OP but they can be effective

[pastel lantern]

U can even sink battleship with midget sub squads

[fresh cedar]

Right, but a carrier sub wouldn’t be about the torpedos it launches but more about spotting and entangling fleets with some air to assist sub task forces

[pastel lantern]

Carrier sub would not be stealthy enough and would probably had almost no anti air

[fresh cedar]

Basically it would be a late game tech to help subs a bit in the late game by extending range, spotting, and negate enemy air slightly. Would still get shredded by actual carriers so would be more of a niche thing in the Atlantic/Pacific

[fresh cedar]

They had decent anti air

I think many of the arguments can be applied to special projects in the game currently.

[dark sail]

im the only one who wish update as possiblity to play non historical or historical cold war?

[drifting star]

Nah many of us want that

Basic Cold War mechanics

[gilded ocean]

I seriously doubt cold war content will come to hoi4

[hollow lion]

If you had to cover the entire cold war with 70 day focuses youd have to make every political path like 100 focuses at least 💀

[drifting star]

It would make for such a cool mod tho

[hollow lion]

You sorta need to change the tick rate to something like once per 6 hours or itd take like 10 hours per savegame on a slow PC+you dont have that much happening

[drifting star]

I mean if after the major wars you force the armies to drop in size and reset the focus trees to a special post war tree that would help no ?

[hollow lion]

Even with performance optimizations, theres still 40 years+ of cold war

[drifting star]

Fair enough

[hollow lion]

And that time is not as eventful as WW2, imagine having a 1936-1939 period of like 10-15 years as some countries, thatd suck

[brittle venture]

We NEED to bring back 210 day focuses

Its what the people want and ask for

Theres at least 2 in the game rn

For netherlands and portugal

Actually those are 140 iirc

I might be dumb

Mexico also has a long one

And turkey i think?

A long one that loses stab

[hollow lion]

I assume great purge/stalin constitution also used to take long? Before NSB

[brittle venture]

Shorter

1 210 day focus

[quasi harbor]

I believe the Zuidersee is indeed 210

[brittle venture]

Yeah but portugal isnt i think?

Its a naval focus too

[quasi harbor]

Cant recall

[brittle venture]

Im not in game so idk

[fallen zenith]

It is

[fallen zenith]

Even better. 210 day focusses that stop if you don't meet their requirements. And with very specific requirements

[brittle venture]

Uncancellable manually too

[fallen zenith]

Oh yea of course

[brittle venture]

Also lock it by date and world tension

[fallen zenith]

No no. Require a tech and a specific leader in charge

We're being too evil. Good thing Chak isn't here to forward it to the devs

[brittle venture]

Im just saying things that already exist...

I think tension locking the army tree like finland is fine tbh

But if its the entire eco tree like canada or australia that sucks

[fallen zenith]

Makes sense to some extent

[hushed lion]

Mod chat

[quasi harbor]

Democracies should all be tension army locked

[brittle venture]

Yeah thatd be fine/cool

[hushed lion]

Democracies should have less restrictions

[fallen zenith]

In that case a specific decision that 2 countries can take to increase their influence over your country and that influence needs to be at max 10 different for you to be able to do the focus

[brittle venture]

You know you can turn them off in game settings right

I mean if you want to

[quasi harbor]

Cuz you know, if a guy starts wasting the entire economy on military when the world is perfectly peaceful he gonna get the boot

[brittle venture]

They have restrictions for ironman/hist stuff

[hushed lion]

Yeah however I also do want achievements

[fallen zenith]

You get one of the other. Not both sadly enough

Vicky and stellaris don't require ironman for achievements anymore tho

[hushed lion]

Yeah, democracies for some reason have these restrictions that have no real reason to exist other than to make the game less fun

[fallen zenith]

I get why they exist. It wouldn't make sense for a democratic country to just declare war on everyone. But hoi is a war game. So it makes sense people lean towards the sides that can actually declare war

[drifting star]

Tomorrow boys

The freaking announcement that will make me forget I have no gf

[wooden wyvern]

Doesnt really make sense tho

Japan had democratic systems irl

And historically democratic countries have started plenty of wars unprovoked

[stable tusk]

Those democratic systems weren't enough to stop the IJA and IJN

[wooden wyvern]

They werent but it was due to constitutional flaws

Their democracy was modeled after the uk iirc

To the point where its not really truthful to say japan was a fascist state or anything like how it is in game

[brittle venture]

Also the army wanted an absolute monarchy and the army controlled the media

Japan at the time was so radically different from any modern state that currently exists

[polar jasper]

The military kept killing prime ministers until the military got control of the government

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[polar jasper]

Chak taking notes on how to be more evil

[pseudo wing]

its sorta my favourite pass time, yes

[polar jasper]

Past time?

[pseudo wing]

nono, pass time

past time is one way to write it

[polar jasper]

What about the past tim

[hushed lion]

True

[polar jasper]

Ah

[pseudo wing]

the past tim was an error and he was struck down with a

[polar jasper]

Lol

[pseudo wing]

[drifting star]

Can we have a democratic Russia please 🙏

[dull tundra]

So true

[fresh cedar]

Or just have focuses that unlock by year

I just want Monarchy and Anarchism to be their own ideologies

[wooden wyvern]

for sure

its definitely not something thats happened a lot historically

[wooden wyvern]

yea but militarism isnt fascism

japan didnt have a hitler

or a mussolini

closest thing wouldve been tojo but he was even considered to be a fallman when the surrender came, and he wasnt even pm when the war of resistance began

[dusk mist]

True, but to be honest, hoi's 4-ideology system really isn't enough to represent the breath of real life politics and ideologies

Really the only other option for Japan is "non aligned"

[wooden wyvern]

i get that

[woeful hill]

i think it would make more sense if in the next update they change japan's flag to the official one

instead of keeping the war/navy banner

it's more historically accurate

[wooden wyvern]

but like if that was the case the restrictions on democratic countries shouldnt exist

but they do

[dusk mist]

I agree that making democracies the worst government is just really annoying

Giving them things like better compliance gain would help balance things out

[wooden wyvern]

i mean the military was running the government past a certain point
maybe the focus that consolidates all the political parties into one should change the flag from that into the rising sun

that flag is too iconic to just get rid of

[wooden wyvern]

dont they have that already

[dusk mist]

Don't think so

Let me check

[woeful hill]

i mean i kind of get that...

[wooden wyvern]

ive literally never seen any resistance in any of their colonies

[woeful hill]

i do agree

[shy sky]

India and the uk

cough cough

[dusk mist]

That's normal because compliance is high at game start

[wooden wyvern]

thats under the raj tho and if im not mistaken they have cores everywhere

[woeful hill]

the starting game should feature the official flag, and even in the tripartite event but the player could choose to change it probably

[wooden wyvern]

it probably should start with the offical one yea

[dusk mist]

I checked, only thing they have is different occupation law which I'm pretty sure isn't that good

Fascist and communist also get unique occupation laws

[wooden wyvern]

iirc in our timeline they had something akin to a war measures act that basically just got rid of all the parties and such

[dusk mist]

Which are better

[wooden wyvern]

and that would probably where the military had absolute control

[woeful hill]

especially if they're gonna make japan non-aligned supposedly

i think maybe

not sure

[wooden wyvern]

i mean i never bother with that stuff
i just turn everything on police force and calvalry and then never touch it again

so ill take your word for it

[drifting star]

Are they not doing the name teaser thing like last time ?

No video 💀😭

[hollow coral]

Well they already teased a lot

[drifting star]

Yea but the puzzle pieces with the date was always so much fun

[stable tusk]

They have access to Local Autonomy which is unironically the best occupation law

[dusk mist]

Ah well that's pretty good then

It seemed good once you've already got a compliance base

Since it adds 10% to resistance target

[drifting star]

Also notice how the Korea thing said “in this release” implying that there was further release

[dusk mist]

... No kidding

Yes there will be more dlcs

[drifting star]

French djabuti confirmed

Or a goa dlc

Maybe a tree for the Cayman Islands

[solid gyro]

At what time is the announcement?

[stable tusk]

Idk but if I had to guess, same time as they post the dev corners

[solid gyro]

Thank you

[stable tusk]

Np

[winged jetty]

I wonder what will the next dlc be after the Japan one will be?

[wise oxide]

what is this and where?

[cosmic stag]

today is the day we get the announcment

im hyped and pumped

[solid gyro]

on twitter

[wise oxide]

link please❤️‍🩹

[solid gyro]

Okay

https://x.com/HOI_Game/status/1970810658934722814?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Hearts of Iron (@HOI_Game)

Will an empire rise in the East, or will an unbreakable coalition push back against invading forces? History is yours to shape in Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass 2!

X · Sep 24, 2025, 11:20 AM

https://x.com/HOI_Game/status/1970810392822825066?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Hearts of Iron (@HOI_Game)

Will an empire rise in the East, or will an unbreakable coalition push back against invading forces? History is yours to shape in Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass 2!

X · Sep 24, 2025, 11:19 AM

this one is more clear

[limber ruin]

so they just leaked the dlc name?

[solid gyro]

They accidentally leaked I think the whole plan

[stable tusk]

Ok Chat, what do we think these are about? 1. Is def the China/Japan stuff, last one is Balkan rework (or at least Czechoslovakia) idk about 3 tho

[limber ruin]

the focus pack looks like something uk & fance related

''peace for our time'' qoute by chamerlain & the free french symbol inside of the lion

[stable tusk]

No, I think that's gotta be Czechoslovakia because of the Slovak cross and Czech lion
Besides it looks like the Czechoslovak national emblem

Also La Resistance is prob not gonna be integrated by then so no point of a France rework

[limber ruin]

youre right

[brittle venture]

Maybe

[limber ruin]

peace in our time was the qoute chamerlain made after the munich conference

[brittle venture]

But thats prob next year imo

[brittle venture]

Uk rework maybe with us

But thats a big scope

[stable tusk]

They might want to make that an expansion if they ever do that

But the thing I'm asking: What is "Thunder at our Gates"?

[brittle venture]

Wait its a focus pack

Idk

[brittle venture]

SEA

[limber ruin]

Wonder what the ''theather pack'' is going to be tho

[brittle venture]

Probably

[stable tusk]

Ig that makes sense, unless some famous person said "there's thunder at our gates" irl

Wait

Thunder

Thunder Dragon Empire

Bhutan DLC confirmed

[brittle venture]

War thunder

[brittle venture]

Imagine

[solid gyro]

I'm curious I wonder if it would be for certain areas. Like central America, or north Africa, or south east Asia

[brittle venture]

A dlc thats bhutan, nepal, tibet, mongolia AND tannu tuva

Thatd get big sales fr

[harsh hull]

Love when the interns accidentally post the tweet about 10 hours early

I don't know what "Focus pack" means or what makes it different from a Country pack

Maybe they're trying to distance themselves from the GoY debacle?

But anyhoo, hopefully Peace for our Time includes all of the Little Entente (Romania + Yugoslavia)

aw, still two months? boo

[crimson tartan]

AYOOOOO????

AYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?????🔥 🔥 ❤️‍🔥

[waxen axle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1nq0f31/hoi4_no_compromise_no_surrender_november_20th_dlc/

Wtf??

Also what is a theater pack and focus pack?

[cosmic stag]

noice nice

[wise oxide]

3 dlc with focuses?

[brisk patrol]

well we dont know what the 3rd one means

this may be a bit weird and not make sense but maybe a flavor pack involving North Africa it seems like?

[wise oxide]

imagine its usa

and siam and the rest of SEA

paradox cooking instead of delaying content for no reason

very hyped for mancu and the next 2 dlc

[waxen axle]

Yeah paradoxing is cooking well like what they did with season 9 for stellaris

[crimson tartan]

i remember the devs said they want to experiment with dlcs

or

maybe just mechanic dlc with no focuses

[rocky escarp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1nq0f31/hoi4_no_compromise_no_surrender_november_20th_dlc/ng3damj/

I get leaking stuff happens, but why the blurb pretending to be on the dev team?

Lol

[worthy viper]

I mean, it’s kind of obvious isn’t it? One is a cosmetic pack for warships of the Pacific meaning will get new worship models and peace in our time is probably a Britain rework.

[crimson tartan]

someone's gonna get F I R E D🔥

[crimson tartan]

plot twist: this guy was actually a dev, but he got fired just after he posted this and when arheo saw that post he already was not part of the team

[nimble torrent]

really curious about what "Thunder at our gates" is
We've had Country packs, like ToA or BftB
A Focus pack is probably just 1 country (i'd guess Czechoslovakia)
A Theater pack tho seems to be new
And the image makes me think of africa or something? The savanna maybe?

are they gonna make africa actually worth fighting for?

[thick edge]

So true

[thick edge]

Ping arheo to confirm it fr

[stable mica]

What is a Theater Pack? 🤔

[cold gale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/kYXDVvBMNV

[coral drift]

Cooking to fast for my liking
December 7th is 2 weeks away from the current date

[drifting star]

Rip to the intern ( it will be fine )

[cold gale]

Finally….

CZECHOSLOVAKIA

After 8 years

It’s getting something well deserved

[wise oxide]

what is december 7th?

[coral drift]

Pearl Harbour Attack

Just got told by Zwirbaum that it's Sunday, lel.

11th or 4th would do too

[hollow coral]

honestly im all for country packs focusing on a couple on countries

most likely this pack will be about czechoslovakia and slovakia

i wouldnt be surprised if in the future they do one for mongolia

thunder at the gates is interesting

the japanese invasion of southeast asia can be referred to as the japanese blitzkrieg

[pseudo mulch]

They've said on Reddit that the focus pack will give content only to Czechoslovakia (maybe with a focus tree for Slovakia as well). Idk what a Theater Pack is tho, maybe a country pack that adds some unique mechanic?

[hollow coral]

theatre pack could just be a rebrand of the country packs

theatre refers to a region where the war was fought

[obtuse cloud]

is this official?

[hollow coral]

someone at paradox accidentally leaked it

[obtuse cloud]

but, fr?

wow

[pseudo mulch]

Yeah could be

Graveyard of Empires has tainted the name of 'Country Packs'

[obtuse cloud]

so they ARE making a second expansion pass

[hollow coral]

i saw a post on the subreddit saying not to preorder it

[pseudo mulch]

Idk if people will pay for an expansion that will only add a focus tree for a single country tho (referring to the CZE DLC)

[hollow coral]

still going to preorder it

[obtuse cloud]

but will the japan dlc be on the same Expansion pass?

[hollow coral]

its pretty much an optional choice and unless they dont make it horrible to play as czechoslovakia i would consider it a win

[hollow coral]

is the grass green?

[obtuse cloud]

i don’t touch grass

👌

[pseudo mulch]

Czechoslovakia is pretty fun to play as as is, so it's hard to mess this one up

[hollow coral]

unless they make the focus pack horrible i doubt they will be any backlash

[pseudo mulch]

It all hinges on the amount of time the devs are given to polish the final product

[hollow coral]

its like 1.5 countries

if they consider adding in slovakia

what other countries would be in the theatre pack other than southeast asia

[coral drift]

I would prefer if the whole expansion pack focused on the immediate regions.
Like, Czechoslovakia is one-third of globe away from Batavia

[coral drift]

I would be if the 3rd DLC is about ANZAC or Mongolia-Tuva

[hollow coral]

just apply to be a dev already

[mild patrol]

Wait is france getting one too?

[stable mica]

What is a Theater Pack? 🤔

[hollow coral]

its probably just focusing on czechoslovakia

[coral drift]

I'm already one in my mod. Would be good if the Indies DLC makes mine obsolete.

But if not, more reason to polish it further

[hollow coral]

peace in our time mostly just refers to when chamberlain came back from the munich agreement

[hollow coral]

im just guessing its a rebrand of the country pack

[mild patrol]

Did they realse the annoucment

[hollow coral]

an employee acidentally sent it early in

thats why there is the screenshots

[mild patrol]

Hopefully france gets redone in the next dlc

[coral drift]

Accidental leak
The real announcement would be 6PM Stockholm Time (11PM Jakarta Time, 1AM Tokyo Time)

[viral dock]

They did damn that Is unlucky for them

[mild patrol]

Ahhh ok

[viral dock]

Can someone send the screen?

[hollow coral]

just scroll up

[coral drift]

Here's a trailer from yesterday
https://x.com/HOI_Game/status/1970810658934722814

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Last One is czechia or Bulgaria for sure

[hollow coral]

i cant believe france is the unrevealed major for the japan dlc

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Like a rework for either

[hollow coral]

czechia for sure idk about bulgaria

[viral dock]

Both add a look in arms cote

But It seems the czech not bulgarian one

[mental onyx]

More likely a little entente focus tree pack. Maybe France can get a few tweaks too.

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This Is?

[mild patrol]

Hopefully

[hollow coral]

bulgaria top czech bottom

[viral dock]

Yea czech rework or whole Little entente