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Look at the WTT patch tho
It was massive
And tbh as China is rather the majority of my game involve China
I played it on release I don’t need to know how big it was at the time. Though in retrospect they’re incredibly similar and shallow
Because the game has shifted towards a focus tree based gameplay
Which imo, isnt great
They show their age particularly fast, especially compared to game mechanics
And are often more of a one time fun
I prefer it as you get to choose what you country specializes in or makes countries have a personality. Whereas before they were just an anonymous actor who felt very similar no matter which nation you played
They still feel similar to me, just unfairly buffed
The gameplay ends up being similar, do your political decisions, pick the path with best buffs, make terrain advantageous units yk
Thats majors
I dont mind extensive trees for majors, those are good
Just for minors i think its ehhh
Idk I still think the minors are more unique than they were
Most commie trees feel the same ig
Yeah
We all want the Mongol Empire restoration path, it's true
But it's only funny if Mengukuo gets that path
idk man i want feudal japan
Mongolia is just Mongolia, it can have your standard Democratic-Fascist-Communist selection
But Japanese-puppet Mongolia should get the funny stuff
Doesnt make any sense but ok
I doubt they would do memey paths in this dlc
A Mongol Empire restoration path itself doesn't make sense
But silly is make more ideal for gameplay
I dont think there was any fascist nor any nationalist movements in that timeperod
But there was movements for a greater mongolia
Especially supported by the bogd khan
Which could turn into a mongol empire
Fuedal japan is just stupid though
Why would the whole country just decide to deindustrialise
The people
They yearn for the fields
Reject modernity, return to nature-- wait, what do you mean, "Tanks in Tokyo?"
Usa rework
when man the guns gets integrated then expect it
otherwise dont expect it rn
I want japan to get a better tree. Also, something to make sunrise invasion achievement easier(i don't want to backpatch to cheese it). I'm actively trying to get this achievement and could use some help if anyone has suggestions.
well do i have news for you
Hm?
Probably should tbh
japan starts with cruiser subs so u can spam those out and cuz theyre cruisers u can place range on them.
that gives u enough range to go from japan to USA in 1 naval invasion and u just land early and beat them up
should be fine
I took all the islands and damaged the hell out of the US Navy. Had to re-load several times(i just copy paste the save file to my desktop to re-try bypassing the autosave issue) And i have managed to capitulate mexico in 1942 for most of the reloads. HOWEVER, i am now abusing stormtroopers and managed to cap mexico in june 1941 this time. Trying to take the panama canal, and holding off the USA in mexico and california
Any suggestions for actually killing off the US navy, or beating back the ground troops?
japan is strong enough to make a fleet but if u feel like ur too unfamiliar with navy id just recommend building VERY good subs.
as u convoy raid them u will continue to kill off 1-2 of their ships and trade a few subs for a few heavy ships and after a while you'll just out IC them
since it takes u half the time to produce 1 sub
- u weaken them a lot by just convoy raiding
I have a strong fleet, but it is mostly deterring enemy ships, rather than outright destroying them.
I was wondering what function i should use. currently using convoy escort for the most part, keeps my supremacy high
im def not the best at navy
But what i do is i have 1 spotting and 1 fighting navy
I use general rules of thumb when it comes capital - screen ratios
most of my ratios are roach destroyers as cheap as they come
my capitals are just heavy ships and a few ACs (TORA TORA TORA)
my spotters are light cruisers with max spotting gear and i like to research the special project that gives u radars
i just island hop try to see what seatile their navy is at build radar there and patrol and try to engage
if u build a semi competent fleet u should absolutely destory them
TLDR; strike force
u got this tho dw about it have fun and learn the mechanics
On the big nations, like US, UK, Japan, Italy I usually make:
5-6 spotting navies, basically 1 spotting cruiser and 3 destroyers just in case to wipe out subs
1 x Escort Navy per big traid route ( so, if I import, say, 200 rubber, that route is defended )
1 main fleet to beat faces ( I actually invest really heavy on them. Torpedo destroyers, Light gun destroyers, light cruisers, AA ships, ACs, Heavy Ships )
1 bait fleet of old ships
My games are very methodical and pre-planned ( with emergency planning as well )
I am that sort of player who keeps 200 fighters per air strategic region, just so I can defend against bombers
I am that sort of player who has garrison on the smallest island, but I can leave it if I know that enemy has a large force to invade it
I am that sort of player who builds a lot of different planes, just to be able to do everything
My economy is distributed, so that losing a state won't mean I am losing 30% of my mils
I build multi layered defenses, with rank groups to counter breakthroughs. I am that sort of player who looks closely to each railway we place
So in the future wars I can funnel enemy into positions I want them to take
I am that person who mines his waters, I am that person who like bot divides his divisions in 30+ armies ( I almost always play with a more generals mod )
But
Having said it all
I love your approach
@hearty blade
Thank you i keep it simple and effective.
Bunch off afghanistan changes
Im interested in the traditionalist path
Sounds interesting
i mean u can get + 75 cav attack just from national spirits lmao
Yeah and btw
Ireegulars spawn fully equipped with the most up to date equipment
Which means theyre only worse if youre in either the 50s or whatever or own half the world
Which means theyre only worse if youre in either the 50s or whatever or own half the world
For recruitable pop its better too cuz it lets you steal pakistan with short wars you can peace out of
Which is where all the people are
and u can do the traditionalist path and then still go communist
Mid civil war you can do demo focus
peak schizo communist timurid empire
The faction rework looks fire
its definitely stronger stat wise, but i'm gonna be real i'd rather have more manpower out than only like 150k manpower usable. I like Quami don't get me wrong but you just don't get manpower
go mass mob
1 div train before civil war
and again
you can take all of pakistan with it
and just peace out
it takes insanely long to get mass mob even with 1 div training. not to mention you can't even 1 div train you have a division that can't be deleted
thats like 30mil+ core pop
yes so you use that division
yeah but it's gonna get you a fraction of the normal exp you'd get from 1div training with a horse brick. plus it's really not that good since the pashtuwali debuff negates 20% of that army exp
I will be surprised if you even get 100 army exp before you get the civil war off
it depends, i like getting all buffs
so i get all buffs
ive played them a few times
absolutely and undoubtedly prefer quami
you rush gun 3 and itll spawn with gun 3
which is massive with bad eco
also their hp let them take less losses
and during borders wars you disband and raise again at next
so you spawn manpower for free kinda
@brittle venture
kinda? does it actually just spawn free manpower or is there a catch? also does it spawn equipment too or is it going to pull from your existing stockpile
it spawns the units full strenght
because if it does just spawn and fully equip your divisions then yeah I can see why it would be better
damn that's crazy. alright yeah that's actually busted as shit
I mean still either way you use that initially for the early game strength. you'll get plenty of manpower doing mass mob and after you take pakistan.
nah
yeah
i mean thats just my opinion
nah honestly if that's how it works then yeah obviously you go for the earlier impact. even if it doesn't scale as well your country also doesnt really scale as well into the late game so like. go for the early game strength lmao
afghan industry is abysmal the entire game
gotta admit though, the new paths are pretty neat. definitely better IMO than the previous facist path I don't think i'll ever touch that half of the focus tree
been reading the focuses in my free time haven't actually played yet but it's nice to see this abysmal country get some love and care
i rlly like challenging nations because they make you think a bit
peak pdx moment
let me know how it goes I don't get home for another like 3 hours if you play a run
ah fair enough. i'll probably play it before you then at that rate haha I like afghan but it just doesn't feel good atm. hopefully this changes it
liking the fact that facism seems viable now. communist path was the only viable path in the past
ofc it sucks :p
tho nufus makes it so much worse
needs eco a lot more
they did add some more factory focuses from what I've seen
did you like going quami? or still prefer nufus?
curious
nufus is better tbh
especially in mp
imma be real if you're picking afghan in multiplayer you better have a buddy on one of the majors helping otherwise expect to have zero impact
oh in rp thats never a problem, thats where u would ever even play afghanistan
fair enough
i think quami might be better since the mughal path fixes ur manpower issues
u get to core Iran and one of the focuses brings u from the 1.5% recruitment to the 2.5% one and u get a buncha other tiny things that give u manpower like the daily 100 sikhs etc
What’s the new traditionalist path
Afghanistan is so peak wtf
Ethiopia (Feat. Italy)
Afghanistan can now core the whole Islamic world !!!!!
This larp not my political opinion
Manpower isnt the issue, cav and irregulars just become ass the later on, i like to make mountaineers anyways
yeah its for early buff ;>
goated gun MIO tho
can produce more guns than anyone else
The new Afghanistan paths are actually pretty fun. Was never gonna play Afghanistan again but the 3 new ones make it worth it. Their Timurid path probably better than indias
Apart from Umayyad Spain and Sicily, but it can do a lot. Feels sorta unique though since it can do Indonesia
Quami better for Mughal but probably not Emir or 2nd Afghanistan empire route
imo they look broken and therefore boring
Well Afghanistan starts in a pretty tough place and is definitely an uphill battle so I don’t mind if they become OP because it’s hard getting there
Similar to Chile
No i want hard country
More fun
That’s what I said, it genuinely is hard until late game 😂
It’s industry is terrible, and is surrounded by much stronger nations
But if you manage to beat them you can become very strong
It rlly isnt tho if you get a gazillion buffs late game smh
Besides
Just rush down the foci you want
What buffs do you believe set them apart from others and make them much more OP where it isn’t playable?
Bc I’d say it becomes comparable to other majors at max
Right, but this is with a baby industry and manpower pool
Could argue the same for Iceland, or even Germany
You core all of the timurids now
All of india 😭
Wouldn’t say fighting the allies, Soviets or even Iran is super easy
Bro iceland gets like
+30% div attack
As fascist
And no other good buffs
No planning factor, org, recruitable pop
Will say their elephants are too tuned
+75% cav attack on quami btw
I know I just learned that today. That needs a nerf bad
Only thing that somewhat offsets it is like it’s 2.5% recruitable
Which is pretty bad till you get India
not rlly
You get factor
Also when you do a border war thing
You steal a state right
But like not only do you have a goated MIO
No
In my playthrough they told me to just eat one
So I had to conquer them
Even if they reject
Youre looking at the wrong thing
?
Yeah that’s why I did
yeah and once you occupy a state you can peace out
It just led to war and even when occupied didn’t work
Wait though did you do the Emir path
gotta occupy the correct state
I did 😂
ive done it as communist before update
So there’s a new Islamic Emir path
I think it may be able to core anything it has a claim on. So technically could core the world
You cant get a claim on any state
Think it legit might count war goal claims
Man this peru game is gonna be hard cuz i wanna do rockets
Those dont give on map claims
Yes but war goals dont do that
They make the states cheaper in peacedeal
But dont add an actual claim
Because game design
Yeah, I’m trying to figure out if the emir path does that
Bc the wording is a little vague
All I know it is let’s you core the entire Islamic world including some parts of sub Saharan Africa and Indonesia
I personally like big end goals like that. But needs nerf to some stats
Their core potential is fine. But the buffs, my god
Idk
I like either creating my own path to fight and stuff or not being buffed into the stratosphere
Doesnt feel rewarding
I think if the buffs were dialed back in line with other countries, it would feel fine. Works for Chile atleast
Ive never played chile nor do i want to
You don’t like the TOA nations?
I do
Argentina is fun
Brazil was alright
Paraguay wasnt bad
Uruguay is chill
Just chile specifically no
I like Communist Brazil the most, Fascist Argentina and Paraguay/Uruguay in general
Chile seems a little out there with the native/mapuche paths tbh. But found them fun
I saw my mil advisor getting deleted when i wanted to play mapuche
And got sad
And depressed
Hate when that happens
Oh also only camo expert guy gone
Like you have 1 good general
They get rid of him
Tbh Mapuche is kinda rough bc manpower isn’t great
Kinda makes sense ig bc Native American
Can core all of the Americas for like 300 mil core so idk
It’s kinda hard to do it tho
Peru is so underrated
Really like the Peru-Bolivia formable
Would like more formables of that scope
Atleast as early game formables
you hate to see it
Ecuador war can be tough
Nah
But yeah hard to do rockets as them
I just hate it bc often they’ve joined allies
Its on core justification anyway
Really can’t wait for the faction rework
I lost exactly 0 people to this war
I forgot
To set the ai to join as soon as they can
😔
Whatever easier formable
Bro my level 1 general didnt even get 1% progress from ecuador
You going for gran Colombia?
Imagine it had like a “New Spain” formable too
Both
Just i want the pretty red
So o Império Bolivariano first
USA facist to form the confederate exist ?
Finland has joined Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere
for a while yes
Which pretty silly imo
Mexico has joined the Nordic alliance
The Soviet Union has joined allies
I hate when that happens
The Russian communist civil war
The one near the north west
It always happens
Exactly, Soviets shouldn’t join allies, commonwealth or free states or Europe by any means
Yet they always do
We now have access to the Server Tags that Discord allows for, if people want to check it out
Neat, now people will question if I am a political extremist or not when I type in a server now lol
I didnt want a tag but was forced to :( everyone will judge me now
is afghanistan playable yet?
Its always been playable
But yes it has a lot of statbloat now and is very easily winnable
I never actually played it gonna be honest just heard it was terrible, playing my first game now
I hate when sfr yugo joins japanese communist faction
Gradient roles
How you do dis
Factions should fix nations from around the world joining Japan
In my game Japan took over the Little Entente
It had the most limited end goals before. But now the ahistorical route has 3 very strong paths (that will get nerfed) so is play em now for achievements
All community server at tier 3 of boosts (i think?) and partnered servers get a guild tag as apart of their server boost rewards, its quite nice
it also allows for regular roles to have cool colour variances
i thought today was the 18th 💀
maybe it is
and we lost the day to Thanos' snap
NOOOOOOO
true
How do I take Iran as Afghanistan
use mountaineers to punch through then spam with infantry
Icl to u chief Afghanistan lacks all equipment lacks manpower lacks supply and lacks industry
It cant do any of that
It has an industry
Thats also fine
Its the cap that does it
And also efficiency cap and growth
50% output is huge wym man
Before it got mega buffed last patch
Nah output is like bloated
Thats like 3 conc techs
Not the worst
I disagree but im going to stop talking before i get mad and call u mean things
Im very passionate about the afghan tree
I prefer afghanistan over ethiopia when it comes to like
Eco
Because at least you dont have -70% research speed or whatever
Your research is fine, therefore your nation is fine
If you cant make any equipment just spawn it in
True true
And u can get third research slot relatively quickly
Youre literally fine
If playing on elite just go quami
Spawns equipment
Disable it
Disband the units
Free gun 3s
One man's exploit is another man's life savings or whatever
Amen
Stop making me blush
prettiest ame in the hoi4 community

The hoi4 rizz strikes
how dies your pfp change every message?
ok
<@&846894118219022336> he is in here too smoke him
dear big al
its time to give up on the mods
these 6 mods online should be banned from working at dispatch
u werent online at the time
so u can work at singaporean dispatch or something

chemist kinda becoming my new goat yk that man always fixing stuff
gg man ur like bob the builder
BTW it's in off topic channels
there's a dev corner coming today right?
naval rework we are so back
Naval enjoyers rise up
ayy... (lookin at Japan Hinomaru flag)
Im scared they wont change in battle stats/fleet overstacking
Admirals should probably have a more serious command limit
ah yes : "here's how to address how navy is difficult : make EVERYTHING more complex and difficult to manage"
Navy is too simple and complicated at the same time. On one hand theres so many tiny things to have to click on or think about. And on the other you can just ignore them all, doomstack ships and win every fight
Noob
this is absolutely peak for map painting enjoyers
you can see the countries colors on sea zones they "control"
5000 hours here, i don't like that
well they are also reworking naval invasions
so no more spamming 1 div invasions
instead of 1 big one
No more 100 invasion cap brasil at d day
yes, and thats pretty big in itself
Makes sense
lets just hope they do something about deathstacking
I can no longer store 2k naval bombers on every pacific island
Doomstacking should have a ginourmous modifier to prevent said fleet from engaging in a battle
(The American fleet will exist now)
well another reason to use carriers
any guesses on the tease at the end
mhm, like land overstacking penalties
Real-life the larger the fleet the easier it was to spot and maintain supply lines, and the easier it was for smaller fleets to just ignore them
Big sun beam as a special project (joke)
supplying a huge fleet would be a logistical nightmare
like sun gun..? 💀
thank god looks like spamming 1 div naval invasions will no longer be a thing
But in hoi4 thats not a problem cuz a fleet can go from Hawai to Japan and still enter an ongoing naval battle
honestly hated that that was the most optimal way to get off an invasion
"After being questioned by American officers, the Germans claimed that the sun gun could be completed within 50 or 100 years"
yeah you know what my hoi4 games have been too short actually
i have time
I wonder whats hidden behind that logo
Yes, I wonder what that could be 👀
electricity/energy confirmed???
👀
imagine if some universe they survived and genuinely made it, and then they couldnt rotate it in time and it just burns germany off the map lmao
ive been wanting food/ rations for so long
i pray
same; electricy or food would be dope
basically a death star
Electricity would make sense because civ reactors already produce it
Although it doesnt do anything rn
True that, finally a use for them and dams
i hope for "all the worlds fighting ship" icons especially all type Carriers, BB, BC, all type Cruisers, DD, and Submarines..
Civ reactors are great lategame anyway
Assuming no world conquest
More resources is awesome
so i'm guessing the naval supremacy system will pretty much be removed?
Fingers crossed i guess, maybe with that New Fuel dev corner
Nah
Overhauled
yeah, but from what i understand it will be replaced by the newer dominance system
i got 2 guesses
shore bombardment
or naval emplacements
and civilian populations actually mattering
toaster economy...being useful??? /s
actually yeah, that could make sense too
but pls not that
i mean...naval emplacements wouldnt be bad,its just like AA but for water
and we already have shore bombardment but its just...kinda bad-
population rework during second sino japanese war makes sense too
they probably wont be doing anything involving populations
well... during all wars in ww2...
considering the playerbase
NSB levels
"Japan,wheres the population of nanjing"
Fire emoji
true
it will basically turn into a warcrime simulator
NSB but for the seas :p
Gone
cursed fact
We know how much water is in a human cause of ww2
mod Victoria ethnic populations into hoi4...
ah
So yugoslav wars anyone?
there's no one left...
also
yall are focusing on the sun
support
merchant marines???
(Shhh)
I wish nz got good content in hoi4
atleast give us a puppet government controlled by japanese 😔
well at least they didnt forget to add the actual island
you DARE insult the bob semple???
Whats good my friend
I was bad at navy but im looking forward to naval invasions
and psosibly being less bad
Naval dominance ftw
makes much more sense
It’s something people have been asking for
They probably will have to integrate mtg?
For the update
*Cries in subs losing dominance*
Then release a new mtg 2.0 lol
probably not rn, but maybe??
I like that capital ships, specifically battleships and super heavy’s will have more weight now
and roach cruisers
Hey wait ur friends with noice7308?
*throws midget subs at you*
Well they currently do have a lot of weight
me? lemme check
They have multis for their hulls
Mutual friends
I see now! i dont remember the context but yeah
Damn, the worlds a small place
unpopular opinion its quite fun for braindead allied minor
Sablin? Is that you?
japan have new flag and we get navy update so 100% this will be japan update fianlly
Cant wait for the pdx thing where they release their worst received update and right after release absolute peak
It just wasnt the state flag iirc
this what we have now is not historicial
if im not wrong its japan navy and war flag
It’s much more representative of Japan in WWII, but it was actually only the naval flag.
so when war will go then meybey this will be change but idk
Mods
for 100% mod
Kind of offensive that Japan still has that same flag
Notice how we never actually denazified Japan
with will be ironman compatible i hope
Irl or in game
Irl
Not with germany either they just got forced not to use the same symbols
But thats neither here nor there and political
there were nazis in japan?
in german its harder
That’s undeniably true of course, but we at least TRIED
i think they cant put this one but japan? its look like normal japan
I’m not using the term in relation to specific Nazis. I’m talking about Japanese fascists.
Japan got to keep the emperor because they never unconditionally surrendered like germany
There actually was but the Japanese basically liquidated the party in 1943 or 1944.
The Allied occupation forces did ban fascist and ultranationalist groups
They did unconditionally surrender I think. They had intentions to try the emperor for his crimes but they kept him in hopes of pacifying the population.
That’s just the democratic flag, tell me you haven’t played Japan without telling me you didn’t play Japan
It was conditional
It’s not the default flag though
this japan flag look same as modern, i mean it
was conditional tho
I’ll take your word for it, I may be wrong
sounds like a skill issue
Kinda sucks as it is tho
it is 😔
Needs changes
It’s actually the army flag, not navy flag, the navy flag is off center
learn the navy and you'll never regret it
oh my mistake then
Should you refit all of your ships every time you unlock a new fire control system?
never
it's the HOI4 equivilant of getting a j*b
sinking the enemy fleet is the most satisfying feeling in the game
believe me
As far as Japanese paths, I expect we’ll have a restorationist path, revamped democracy, communist, and militarist paths, and perhaps a fascist path to represent the Tohokai?
How do you even play Germany without a navy
I mean their only real condition was to keep the emperor
But thats still conditional
Paratroopers
and naval bombers
and nukes
what about japan
i don't play japan
I'm never playing the US until they get a rework
This is exactly what we have now, the fascist and the militarist path is the same
The fascist path is just the historical path. Taisei Yokusankai was explicitly fascist.
Average player only ever clicking germany
Ive played too much germany lately (a moderate amount of it) i need to get other nations up again
Right, but they could make at least three separate fascist paths: the historical militarist government, an ahistorical one where the Tohokai (Japanese Nazis) takes over, and an outright Neo-Shogunate.
I personally like playing minor nations
True
Same
it's fun to have a struggle to become a great power
But which ones
We have neo-shogunate 
My favorites have to be Lithuania, Hungary, and bulgaria
Literally the only thing that would be new would be the Nazis
I mean the German tree got revamped heavily to the point of having not much in common with the old one, I’d expect something similar for Japan.
Just about anything other than the historical path for Japan feels stapled on.
I would be okay with this
Existing focus tree is balls
Paraguay has a larger focus tree than Japan
Both are bad
Everything is bad
I mean, a more in-depth militarist branch could even have you pick between the IJA and IJN as to who takes control of the government.
True
That would be nice
Big new addition is the size of islands and build limits. Small, medium and large islands which determine how much you can build on it including airport level
Not everything, just some things are useless and others are outdated
So Malta for instance won’t be able to field 2000 planes
Are they ever going to fix how nonsensical the political ideology labels are
decently big game changer
The PSOE is “Conservative” but the UK Conservative party is “Liberal”
Will mean allied bombings of Europe/Asia will be less impactful from the Mediterranean or other remote islands
I expect Japan’s states will be revamped too to be more granular.
Let’s Balkanize the Home Islands!
And a country can’t be labeled as “Centrist” and “Democratic”
Also home base, home base supply and smaller fleet ranges will be a nice change. Feel like fleets have pretty OP range now so it’ll be easier to both target enemy fleets and manage your own
balkanized ancient japan 🔥
Can you elaborate on what you mean by granular in this instance?
Because I imagine it’ll be a huge update for Japan comparable to Germany in GDR
Granular implies small changes
Down to the individual prefecture level, at least for Honshu.
If that’s too granular, splitting up some of the existing regions may also work.
Like a Northern Kyushu and Southern Kyushu.
3 friends and 9 mutuals lol
I've only played Germany once, and that was before gotterdamerung
Neat
This is amazing
UK Conservative party is conservative
It isn't liberalism
Also the political ideology thing is more of an alignment rather than actual ideology
Its about subideology
I know, but I know some of his subideology things was wrong
Ohh ok
Yes sir
navy changes look cool
U have a good taste in servers fr
And why does it say message deleted
Is it just me that dislikes these changes?
It feels like they’re taking things away, not adding any fun new features to navy
We now have to sit fleets in one spot for months to be effective
Feels like this is making it way less relevant rather than an upgrade to the system
Also no more building on islands makes sense but I don’t like it :(
And range reduction is flat out annoying
Subs will still be able to stack range, so it’ll be even harder to counter them now
yes same
i dont like those stuff aswell
we need a entire revamp of the DIV designer
with more units and templates
so we can RP in SP
Not only does this screw up balance with submarines it won’t you have to micro fleets now by assigning naval bases just to escort your shipping?
alr
i dont like that either
its like they dont want us to win
in naval invasions
@next root
we should get Escort carriers
so we can naval invade better
That would be neat but carriers are still horribly clunky to use rn and I didn’t see them mention changes there
Gotta click every carrier to assign the planes
Or at least assign the planes I actually want on them
i wanna add SUPER CARRIERs
Would be better if I could designate the type of planes in the carrier design or smth
alr
@next root whadya think bout this idea?
Don’t we basically have that in special projects though
Makes me really interested what will be reworked with Japan
Island hopping seems like a big part. So maybe peace deal rework?
Nah not peacedeals prob
yeah its exciting
They’re reworking factions and island hopping. Idk
I want doctrines and small arms :D
Faction rework will atleast change war contribution depending on lend lease. So you never know
Mass mob meta will persist until then 💔
I think Baldwin has the sub ideology of Liberalism but Chamberlain and Churchill have the sub ideology of Conservative
Let me double check this
Huh, it is Liberalism
But here is the funny thing, liberalism has liberal and conservative camps
So technically could be correct, I don't know enough about Stanley Baldwin or the Conservative party in the UK
Can't you do that in base game
not in the actual carrier design no
unless I'm forgetting
Yeah that’s why it doesn’t make sense to me that the game labels it as liberal
That is why I used quotes
Baldwin is Liberalism, the rest of them are Conservative
Idk why Baldwin is Liberalism but what do I know
U can be conservitive and liberalist
It says liberalism, not liberal
there is a difference
Technically conservatives and liberals are all under liberalism
Liberalism promotes individual freedoms and the free market which is quite broad
Tank designer style setup for small arms sound horrible
I want 7
And artillery
And support equipment
Wait
A gun designer for tanks
Sounds fun
looks like i overestimated germany, i thought the ai would punch through my defenses easily. sadly i had green air all the time and they couldnt outproduce my planes
i made their tank divisions exhausted with my budget t34
im using the new gotterdammerung dlc and road to 56
rate gameplay
Yeah the AI sucks
They can’t do anything
Was this timed
Yes
I mean most likely
They know it's actually good, so players are willing to pay more for it
Right 💀
I mean at least from my memory Götterdämmerung had some pretty good stuff
Daddy paradox gotta squeeze our wallets dry 🔥
Yup
And yet no big sales for EU4 💔🥀
Major dlc vs poorly received dlc
Also country pack vs normal DLC
I mean fair enough, but that would apply to the other major dlc as well
Ig that GDR is still "fresh"
when africa dlc
It’ll be nice when the new versions of country packs actually get features
They’re definitely gonna break Africa up into like 3 DLC. North Africa, West Africa, and the rest
I got no more dlc left to buy 😦
finally, someone who didn't immediately fell back to the river and actually used the terrain (forests, rivers and marshes)
Falling back to the supply deadzone behind moscow/stalingrad then sending you the save fr
Honestly, if you know what you're doing you can just hold the border, only loosing a few tiles
mercy and chak for the win!
isnt the dev diary scheduled for today?
New fuel? we may now have an expanded fuel variety, like Gasoline, Diesel, Naptha, Propane-Butane and etc. and it's gonna be interesting
Nah. Pretty sure they mean fuel metaphorically
electricity
Finally petrol electric engines will be good.....
Stolen from me like 2 weeks ago smh
theyre adding it
Trust
Electricity update
Civillian life update
New 50s special project: television
- weekly war support
If this is actually true it would be funny I predicted it
And boosting political party popularity in some way
then next major dlc will add the housing bubble with the USA update 🔥
Lmao
Electricity makes sense tho to some extent.
Also ties into nuclear reactors
Mostly ethiopia and civillian reactors
But its mentioned
Electrification of shewa and other regions
Yea. And its lacking which is weird since even vicky 3 has electricity
Tbh
It would be good to have some way to have more oil/a substitute for some of it
Because just like irl oil is very biased
Its actually less in game than irl
Yea
Would really add a cold war aspect
Modernizing railways, electricity building
And then one day hoi4 will be vic2
Hoi4 won't ever do cold war tbh
Ik
Too difficult to balance
Anything before 48 probably
And electricity would tie great to it
Yea
Japan makes sense
The reason they did all they did was modernizing rapidly
They struck the US because oil embargoe
Didnt wokr out so went for indonesian oil instead
Work*
Oh yea good point
And having a way for non fascist / non aligned japan to deal with that makes sense
Same for china tbh
Makes sense for china
I can see it
NOOOOOOOOOO
Dont have one anymore anyway, you took it from me 😔
Nooo
ONE FIRM HANDSHAKE
ONE FIRM HANDSHAKE AND A TUBE OF SOUR CREAM AND ONION PRINGLES
I love those omg
the fact that GBP basically nullifies all other doctrines for nations that don't do purpose built infantry fillers is dumb imo
SF and MW were both much better irl
GBP is basically just world war 1 shit
GBP is what the British used IRL
Lots of planning, and small focused offensives
yeah and they sucked
Eh
The problem was UK high command was too cautious
the raid at dieppe would beg to differ
the UK was basically knocked out of the war materially after the evacuation of Dunkirk, so their caution was merited.
they had recovered by 1943/44 but by then Germany was spent
Too be fair, getting 200k troops encircled in a small space would make u really cautious
And I think they lost all their trucks/tanks
I heard something about the entire British army being motorized by the start of the war
Then lost most of it in dunkirk
no they were, they had universal carriers and everything
and then that was just gone
having a fully mechanized force and then losing 95% of their strength was a huge blow
Yup
They kept the men but lost most everything else
The issue with the French and the Brits is that they made an army that would have done really well in the trenches of world war 1 barring their negligence towards sub machine guns
but not an army that would have done well in world war 2
Plus the French generals sucked, u needed to suggest an idea to high command, then wait for a response from them
And by the time they responded, that chance would most likely be gone
auftragstaktik
Agreed 🔥
||wtf is that||
in part Germany isn't really given enough credit for cementing that into their officer corps
it's mission type tactics
basically the idea that local commanders should be afforded agency to sieze the initiative should it be present
this was something that existed prior to WWII Germany by all means
Yeah
but they really implemented it on a grand scale in the western campaigns
That’s a really good idea
people often cite French incompetence and slowness to react
but that was literally just how armies operated
just like the U.S really exploited combined arms and made it a necessity for ground war
the germans used mission type tactics
and taught the world that it should never be neglected
When you demobilize it should take from the pool of deployed soldiers as well
For some reason traditionalist Afghanistan under faqir ippi has elections
The facist county with election a
yeah lets call them electons
There are new commented out focuses for Iraq
I don’t see anything wrong with that. North Korea has elections every year as well.
i mean japan also had elections
my favorite hereditary democratic communist nation
Communist India’s buffs are too OP imo. Gets a ton of buffs to recovery and org regain to the point where they are almost unbeatable
Where is the update to islands that they promised
Or the dev diary
Corner*
Wasnt it supposed to be a few days ago
They already did it
The one where they mentioned Tiny, Small, and Large islands, along with how the sizes will cal what level of buildings you can build. Such as lvl 2 max airfield on Marcus
The one they said they were having hot reschedule but they released another before it. (Most like to set up what’s coming up on the 26th)
Alright thanks yall
navy rework?
yessir
when
next update
They’re reworking islands, factions, navy, and lend lease I believe
thank god
Basically navies will have a home port now, so less range. But you’ll have more agency in taking over specific seas. They’ll take time but you’ll effectively be able to take them over like air zones almost. And they’ll stay yours even if repairing as it takes a while to shift control.
Will need 66% naval dominance to naval invade versus 50% too.
no more waiting for the british fleet to go home for a split second as germany to sealion
Yup, sea-lion will be much harder
So will any naval invasion too, so maybe less AI naval invasion spam?
i think on the 26th we're learning what hte new dlc is
seems too early
and they do state something about fuel
we can only hope ¯_(ツ)_/¯
HOI devs have long promised us the possibility of selling and buying ships on the market. Unfortunately, this has not been realized for a long time.
global market is kinda ass ngl
💔
what 😭
you can buy a ship from International market?
No
How many tank divs should I have in each of my armies? playing germany
ideally you have a tank only army so you can make use of general traits
First time using tanks in this game, been playing since like I was 8 (im almost 14 now)
🤨
I like to do 4-6 out of 24
It needs to be at least 40%
So out of 24 thats like 10?
Isnt that kind of hard to reach early game
I only start building tanks late 1938 when I can make them 10-12km/h and I usually beat up everyone by 1942-1943
Its to grind panzer leader on your general tho
If its less then just make a seperate army
Why is ur stability so low
I hope the mitibushi MIO for Japan won’t be focus locked
No thats too far fetched
Its gonna be time locked to 1945
I wanna have fun 🙏
No
unique focus tree for prussia when???
not soon
Who thinks the USA and other countries need a major rework? USA escpecially with the Focus Tree
just go on reddit bro
Bro got sentenced to reddit 😭
Nah, i am still here. I rarely use Reddit.
Well, Ig on Thursday we'll learn what the new fuel is
It better not be Vic 3 Bird Mana
I never use tanks tbh, only in multiplayer
I just wish the USA had a military rework. Don’t even need a political tree but it’s army/navy/Air Force is lacking
Watch it be manpower 😂
unique focus tree for prussia when
Prussia did sorta get content but I don’t think they’re ever getting a tree
Prussia has a unique leader and a German formable tho
Volga germany has that too
Same for the baltic german state
Yeah all the German states do
I’m just saying, it did get a little content
But doubt it will get more
You forgot, its Casey's soul
oh hi casey, didn't see you there

Or chak’s customer service 😂
Omg a new chak
New pfp new person
Nice to meet you sir!
It's just a temporary thing for now, the edit I did of Hades was too good not to use
A new era for the Chakster 😔
So like, how long in advance do you start writing posts like that
No chance it’s the night before
they're usually written a few weeks to months in advance, but I usually type them up a week beforehand to format everything
it really depends on the content of a dev corner/dev diary
Chak can you just reveal the new fuel i pinky promise i wont share with anyone (real)
That makes sense
Figured it would be a hassle
They seem to have a lot of work put into them
It’s coal, duh
I already told you, its your soul
...maybe lego

Game going full BICE
Oh, genius idea
Infantry designer and instead of fuel they use "provisions" as fuel
Would not be a pain to manage at all
Oh god watch it be provisions
Germany gonna finally get ate on the eastern front
With the KMT this would make sense
If you didnt know their main logistical issue wasnt gun or ammunition
I totally agree
But at the start of the war their units had like 0 provisions
If only they had drinking water 😭
But also itd be a hell on earth mechanic
Meh could be like support equipment or fuel I guess
A lot of KMT soldiers had to pack their own meals on their way to the conscription office and ate it there
Maybe works like convoys/fuel?
Just makes me think how it would impact every country
Civs should be able to either construct or make provisions
Just theorizing a cool system
US should be OP at provisions imo
Agreed
Like how you can divert civs to repair?
Would make civs that much more impactful
