latest-updates

[hearty blade]

U get it if u go down prussian legacy focus in german army tree

[hearty blade]

Instead of blitzkrieg

[molten cloud]

Ah stormtroopers ?

[hearty blade]

Not sure if thats their name

But might be idk

[safe plover]

Yeah they give 20hp

[thick edge]

You know how there is docking rights

And military access

What if we got the same for airbases

[fresh cedar]

Even the Kurds resist the Kurds 😭

[digital pumice]

Thats also mil access

[thick edge]

I have never seen airbases work for that though

[digital pumice]

They do

[thick edge]

Over 2000 hours and I just learned this

I swear I never seen it 😭

[digital pumice]

You can also paradrop from their land if u have mil access

[lunar swallow]

Is it me or was there an update that you see region NAMES when zooming in a country? I thought that was only for peace conferences

[pseudo wing]

That doesn't sound normal

[fresh cedar]

Can you provide an image

Can’t really comprehend what you’re saying

[lunar swallow]

It got fixed so im good

[fresh cedar]

Since when?

[drifting star]

When will the GOE changes happen ?

[fresh cedar]

Beyond patches? This month

[drifting star]

Wonder what paths they will change

Hopefully an overhauled afganistan

It’s too light for it being the nation the dlc is named after

[pseudo wing]

Have any of you found any spelling errors or wrong countries listed in focuses as of late?

I'm going around trying to find things we can add to the war effort that are not game-breaking or anything, but would be nice additions, and fixing spelling errors and whatnot in both focuses, descriptions and such in the english version are quick and easy fixes I'd like to find

[thick edge]

I have an F in English so every thing looks fine to me

[opaque marlin]

are there any mods that make divisions cost less manpower and equipment that works with Magna Europa so that the AI can make enoug divisions to cover their frontlines?

[fresh cedar]

Can we get more formables? 😏

Like obviously, Greater Quebec-Louisiana Empire

[pseudo wing]

it must happen (it won't)

[stable tusk]

Idk anything about that but I do find it weird Khalistan has cores on Kashmir (prob because of the Sikh Empire ig) and claims on Bombay
Maybe a Sikh Empire formable that lets you core Kashmir or smth could be good, and extending the Sikh Autonomy focus to also effect West Punjab

[polar jasper]

I can already see New France and the French Chile fighting each other to reclaim mainland France

Most historical hoi4 game

[fresh cedar]

Feel like India deserves more formables, especially for the smaller princely kingdoms. Deccan Empire, Bengal Empire, Maratha Empire. Even if not exactly these, the ability for smaller Indian nations to unite parts of India.

For Afghanistan, Durrani Empire, Timurid Afghanistan, or Expand upon the communist growth it can have

[thick edge]

I wanna form the Asian Union as Afghanistan

Literally the EU but better

[fresh cedar]

IMO they all need greater communist growth

Iraq and Iran get interesting expansion routes though

Greater Egypt, or Egyptian empire formable

West African Union formable, to complement the other African formables

[fresh cedar]

My bad for posting so many but I believe those formables would greatly benefit the game by posing challenges, goals and adding flavor to otherwise boring regions

[thick edge]

SOUNDS LIKE A LIBERIA DLC 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅

[fresh cedar]

I’m just like we have East Africa, mutapa, Latin Africa, and formables in North Africa. That part of Africa is kinda neglected

[drifting star]

Iraqi army just being called just army

Also where did the idea for Pashtun ascendency come from ? I don’t see any historical basis

[pseudo wing]

It's fine to post about it, though I am moreso looking for bugfixes and whatnot to include into War Effort patches, as there will be an upcoming GoE specific patch that might change some thing around (I have no idea what is going to be in it). I am not sure if formable suggestions fall within that on my side of things right now

I am trying to find things that are not necessarily 'ultra important' but help keep the game maintained, and a few spelling errors in focuses and descriptions that have inconsistencies that I'd like to have corrected

[fresh cedar]

Darn 😔

[pseudo wing]

where, in a focus description?

[drifting star]

In the national spirit

It’s just called army

[pseudo wing]

grab me a screenshot when you can

that way I can link the message in my spreadsheet

[pseudo wing]

ty good sir

[drifting star]

Chief of the army for Iran is generic , and the EIC gives 30 factories randomly when you don’t pay any didvideds which also cause the tax brackets to go negative

Meaning added in unowned factories

Guess the call that a tax refund

@pseudo wing

[pseudo wing]

the EIC gives 30 factories randomly when you don’t pay any didvideds which also cause the tax brackets to go negative

explain this one to me

[drifting star]

When you don’t pay dividends to investors the tax brackets minimum factories with shift between 7-13 % lower each year making the calculation such that it adds factories every year

It adds factories that you do t technically own so they can not be used to buy more land

[pseudo wing]

you're meaning off-map factories?

[drifting star]

Yup

[pseudo wing]

odd

have you made a bug report off of that? or seen one?

[drifting star]

Ill check if not ill make a report

[pseudo wing]

(I need things to link to it when giving it to the devs and whatnot)

[fresh cedar]

Ah so like name changes could be a potential thing?

[pseudo wing]

If it makes sense, yeah

though that'd be mostly for people shown (I know a few people have issue with specific titles of figures in the game) and less so to do with, say, a formable's name

[floral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/mongol-empire-evelotion-demographics-gif-17340392

I think the true silk road empire formable

Cores are the most useful thing you can do to your land

No factory, population, resource debuff

You don't need formables but they give you manpower rather than needing it, no resistance

[safe plover]

ah hell nah

[quasi harbor]

Dam, the parents of those Quintuplets must be very proud

[fresh cedar]

That’s for just a future Mongolian one lol

[fresh cedar]

More like spirits, decision names, focuses etc

[floral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-gif-12774102

[neon slate]

Bangladesh should form Bengal One of the Indian breakaways should hav to option to form one of these

[drifting star]

Turko Persian empire

Mongols

The great technate

Silk roads empire

[drifting star]

The golden circle

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Golden_Circle_(Proposed_Country).png

[subtle gorge]

Mexican Empire on steroids*

[thick edge]

(Only formable as Cuba)

[subtle gorge]

Why not take it a step further and do that as Haiti/Dominican Republic

[thick edge]

The Bahamas!

[plucky sky]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/factory-bug-in-construction-map-mode.1720347/#post-30257683

this bug might be small enough to include in that

it's been in the game for a while now and it's tiny but always annoys me a little bit

[safe plover]

I mean army (iraq) is still pretty stupid

[timid parrot]

Were u successful?

[fresh cedar]

The bug that bothers me the most is when you can no longer click into the war screen and have to reload the save to be able to

[fresh cedar]

Would lowkey be good as a Central American country

Think Cuba/Mexico should’ve had like a “New Spain” route

[thick edge]

That would be rlly cool

[fresh cedar]

Mexico can kinda get Spanish cores. But ik had it been made in TOA, it would get more

[pseudo wing]

could you elaborate one what the issue is more depth

you are saying that the factory construction won't show unless there is already a factory of that kind in the state?

[plucky sky]

Yeap

[plucky sky]

That exactly. It appears in the build queue on the left but when the state is hovered over there's nothing there

It used to display something like 'Military Factory (0) +1'

Was going to add that to my comment on the forum but the forum wouldn't let me put in the numbers as part of the comment

To verify for example start a new game as France in 1936 and try to build a military factory in Bourgogne

The factory appears in the construction queue but not in the tip hovering over the state in construction mode

a screenshot example

[plucky sky]

Just saw that the forum post has now been followed up on, thanks Chak!

[proper timber]

They secretly added that Israel can form Arabia

[drifting star]

Peak HOI4 moment

Surprised no greater Israel

[buoyant remnant]

hello esteemed chat

[drifting star]

Dawg what u doin here

[daring cape]

Greater judea

[hollow coral]

crazy

[trim quartz]

Is real

[hallow pivot]

I was cooking USSR and then Germany appear 😭

[chilly drum]

@pseudo wing ,a big chunk of the player base doesn't have access to this new survey due to Amazon blocking the access, is it possible to make google based survey or not?

[pseudo wing]

I am not in charge of the surveys, is not my decision to use Amazon web services or Google web services, only the messenger.

I will relay the feedback about it though I do not think it can be achieved this time as we've already opened it, but I do understand the annoyance

[fresh cedar]

We use surveymonkey too 😂

Come on guys, we know Chak makes every decision for HOI4 at every level

[thick edge]

Fr

[pseudo wing]

I am secretely John Paradox, this entire time biding my opening to absorb every company in the world

[thick edge]

He is going to diplo annex the companies

[hollow lion]

Mount and Blade games are so underused, would be ebic if PDX made a good one

[rocky oasis]

I noticed that in the survey that there was no option to recommend that the devs change HOI4 into a first person medieval fantasy game. I hope that this will be corrected. /j

[pseudo wing]

the first person midieval fantasy game was the friends we made along the way, smh

[thick edge]

Is that a

Spelling mistake?

Midieval?

[rocky oasis]

The Mid Ages

[pseudo wing]

I was trying to be a bit coy by calling it mid

but that does sometimes fly over ur head, chris

[thick edge]

That’s 100% what u meant

[astral pewter]

Whats mount and blade

[pseudo wing]

its a strategy game set in a medieval sandbox

it lets you manage a kingdom/warband/faction, do individual battles and whatnot, have your own player character and more

I quite like it myself, though i do not play it bc I am horrible at it

[harsh hull]

Guys, I figured it out

The reason why Burma has 6m population less than they roughly had historically in 1936

It's because Brazil has 6m more population than they should have - they've been sent to Brazil

[full ermine]

Never expected 🇹🇷 Turks making such a banger franchise. Bannerlord is awesome 🔥

[dense gale]

i assume we would be able to playtest new dlc mechanics

before they come out for most pdx games?

[hollow lion]

It feels abandoned tbf

[thick edge]

That’s a thing?

[dense gale]

yea its at the end of the survey

u get to signup

[polar jasper]

I would have enjoyed doing playtests, but I do not know how much time I need to set aside for it

[dense gale]

https://playtest.paradoxplaza.com/Portal/default

direct link if u need it

[polar jasper]

College + full time job = limited time

[thick edge]

= fun

What

[stable tusk]

= is used for bot commands for quite a few discord bots

I did the ` thing so that the pdx bot didn't think I was commanding it

[polar jasper]

Epic screenshot that encapsulates the new player experience

[thick edge]

= give me a free hoi4 dlc

NOOOOOOOO

[drifting star]

It knows buts saying no

[hollow hedge]

They've added the option to select Habsburg candidate now as Carlist Spain. Do you get anything special like some secret focus or HRE fromable?

Ik they talked abt adding some content to Habsburg Spain

[drifting star]

No

I wish

We can always ask the devs

Still waiting on new color for Hashemite

[hasty fox]

@umbral forge

[drifting star]

Bug ,UK still has oil rights to Iraq even while at war with them

[digital pumice]

Not really, it has a pretty big community

[hollow lion]

Yeh but the devs dont update it

[digital pumice]

And so is the modding community

[hollow lion]

Thats what I mean with abandoned, those things are true ofc

[digital pumice]

Well they recently announced a pretty big dlc

And they do update it

It's pretty active in development

[hollow lion]

Last update was 4 months ago and only had crash fixes

[digital pumice]

Considering it's talewords we are talking about

That's thee best you'll get

[hollow lion]

When the game was fresh though, they were actually polishing the game

[digital pumice]

Plus they've been busy with the upcoming dlc

It adds pretty big changes

[hollow lion]

I feel like they shrunk their team before the game was done or smth

[digital pumice]

Eh

Talewords isn't known for being the most consistent company

[hollow lion]

The game just has too little content without mods

Tbf you could say the same for HOI in hindsight

[digital pumice]

Agree there is definitely lots of potential for new mechanics

But there is only so much you can add

[hollow lion]

I got a Europe map mod with navy always enabled 👌

[digital pumice]

They are adding an entirely new naval system btw

[hollow lion]

I saw

[digital pumice]

Looks really cool

Hopefully it turns out as cool as it was in the trailer

[hollow lion]

CK3 and Bannerlord are games I wanna play more, but Im just waiting for them to be polished

[digital pumice]

Well for bannerlord you're prolly going to have to wait another 10 years

With the amount of bugs

It's still fun nonetheless

And their old stuff is really nostalgic

[thick edge]

What’s the difference between banner lords and manors lords

I swear they are the same

[digital pumice]

Completely different games

[hollow lion]

I dont mind the bugs I just want content

[thick edge]

I’m a lil special Yknow

[hollow lion]

I wish Bannerlord was easier to mod so I could make a meme mod

HOI IV is like, the 3rd easiest game to mod I know

[digital pumice]

Yeah I heard it's hell to mod

[hollow lion]

Bannerlord is only beaten by Rimworld and the janky modern-day-Bannerlord I bought from some scummy dev on Steam on how hard I found it to mod

[digital pumice]

Huh

You mean the modern warfare bannerlord clone

I thought it looked fun

[hollow lion]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/773951/Freeman_Guerrilla_Warfare/

Steam

Freeman: Guerrilla Warfare

Freeman: Guerrilla Warfare is set in a chaos filled world occupied by battling factions, bandits and warlords who seek to rule the world.

The game is about your career as a faction leader: Start with minimal assets, you need to make money, build an army, wage wars against other factions and eliminate your rival forces with thoughtful strategies…

Price

$24.99

Recommendations

11235

▶ Play video

[digital pumice]

Yeah this one

[hollow lion]

bannerlord concept but modern day yee

Honestly its somewhat fun even if completely unfinished

Just not worth the money

[digital pumice]

It's kinda if

Arma and bannerlord

Had a son

[hollow lion]

I dont get why there isnt singleplayer games that play like Arma

[digital pumice]

Because they aren't as profitable

Unfortunately

[hollow lion]

I got Arma 3 solely to play the Old Man singleplayer scenario

[digital pumice]

Arma 3 feels too slow for me

Especially in singleplayer

But the campaigns are fun

Some of them

Others are just boring

[hollow lion]

Have you tried Old Man?

Its open-world with something like 20 missions

[digital pumice]

I think not

Is it within base game

[hollow lion]

Apex DLC I believe

I got the speedrun for it which is pretty cool (Im the only one that sent one in :c )

[digital pumice]

Yeah I got all dlcs

Might check it out

[hollow lion]

It got a wiki page thats useful when you dont mind spoilers

[hollow hedge]

Please do, and we need russian exiles fix 🙏

[hollow lion]

Bug reports/suggestions go on the forums

[hollow hedge]

Well, this is more of a suggestion

[hollow lion]

Edited the message ;P

[hollow hedge]

Ah

Well sadly, I don't have a paradox acc

But I had a suggestion abt russian exiles

A while ago

So I hope someone who has an acc will be willing to help me out with that

[buoyant lake]

does anyone know how to change versions

does anyone know how to change versions
if the version isnt listed on the hoi4
option

[hollow coral]

💔

[heavy bolt]

is mass assault or gbp better for minor nations like austria/hungary etc and what should I focus on for each doctrine

[fringe hazel]

I prefer using gbp, becouse of the max planning bonus which boosts attack and defense. and mass assault is more aiming to, you already have enought man, they are expandable for you.

[cobalt jay]

Depends on their focus tree if you get buffs for special forces than GBP is better if it is just generic tree or no real army buffs then mass mob

[fresh cedar]

I just have the most luck with SF

[thorn bear]

Man i gotta get some money
Im two DLCs behind

[fresh cedar]

That’s how I feel about stellaris

[wraith prawn]

honeslty, don't get GoE, it's not worth it at all except for achievement farming

[drifting star]

When will goe get the changes

[fresh cedar]

I’ll judge once it’s been updated again this month. Currently it’s OK and playable. Communist trees are pretty lacking, and there’s not too much room for expansion outside of fighting Majors/factions. Iraq and Oman being allied aligned is brutal.

Most Indian trees fun. Caliph Iraq is fun. Persian Empire is fun but very difficult. And only communist Afghanistan is worth imo

[drifting star]

It is a stable release for the most part , my issue is the fact that much of the seemingly creative and fun parts of the afgan and some of the Iraq tree were cut

[fresh cedar]

Which parts specifically were cut?

Not denying it just curious

[drifting star]

25 + focuses for Afghanistan , mostly relating to an afgan caliphate and some sort of hypothetical turko Persian empire along with a Shia kingdom of Iraq

And unification of all Shias

[fresh cedar]

Oh was that like the Islamic revolution path

The one they hinted at but which didn’t make it

[drifting star]

No that was for Iran

[fresh cedar]

Idk if I heard of that one

[drifting star]

It’s in the game files

All Shias being Iran

I think prolly the bad reception Silk Road empire got led to them cutting things they say might be controversial

[fresh cedar]

I agree. They realized how certain topics are controversial. So cut all Silk Road content, and additionally opted to avoid Islamic revolutions. Ig bc of the current state of European immigration? Idk

Iraq is one thing, but Afghanistan/Iran would anger both Europeans, Russians and Indians?

[drifting star]

A lot of Iranians don’t like Islam and they prolly didn’t want extermists to start using their game as propaganda

[fresh cedar]

Trueeee

[drifting star]

They included Mughals which I’m surprised didn’t result in more backlash

[fresh cedar]

Think Timurid path would’ve suited Afghanistan more tbh

[drifting star]

Agreed

[fresh cedar]

India should’ve just had the Mughal

Weird it gets both

Even when you play India, you kinda choose one or the other

Bc if you go Mughal, I don’t think you can be named the Timurids after and vice versa

[drifting star]

Crazy that Akand Barat was included. It’s an actual goal of an extermist group

*extremist group

[fresh cedar]

They already have an Islamic path for Iran, though it’s tame

So wonder if they just didn’t want the revolution one

But I’m like if Iraq can do it, why not Iran too?

Ig it’s just more complicated as Iran

[drifting star]

They might have laws against it

[fresh cedar]

To be fair many of the fascist paths are 😂

Can’t just cut fascism from a WW2 game

[drifting star]

Fair enough, but they are actually being called the new nazis

[fresh cedar]

So is America First or the Silver legion

Don’t think it’s an issue imo

[drifting star]

They were created by nazis

[fresh cedar]

Careful posting contemporary stuff though! Sometimes they moderate it

[drifting star]

One of there members was in the bunker

[fresh cedar]

Similar arguments were made with man the guns

But ultimately Americans and the community didn’t care

[drifting star]

True

[fresh cedar]

Think Iran is just unique as its self image is more controversial

[drifting star]

I guess no one cares about violent Indians

[fresh cedar]

I’m guessing Afghanistan plays into the same self image as Iran

[drifting star]

But eye ran that’s the scary one

[drifting star]

Of course

[fresh cedar]

Not really, or Iraqi’s. It’s widely accepted and a fun alt history

They’re comfortable with it

Iranians on the other hand, not so much 😂

[drifting star]

Notice they didn’t include a Ba’ath path

[fresh cedar]

But dang would’ve been a super fun path

[drifting star]

They put in SUMKA which wasn’t made till 50s

[fresh cedar]

Tragic

[drifting star]

If only baby sadaam was included

[fresh cedar]

Honestly, if any DLC was treading a fine line. It was gonna be this one

[drifting star]

Something like aladeen

[fresh cedar]

The middleast isn’t well known for being peaceful where everyone agrees

Legit any approach would’ve been scrutinized

Maybe paradox played it too safe with this one. But better that than further controversy ig

I still find it fun

[drifting star]

Agreed pissing off entire countries is a bad idea

And then there is the fire rises

[fresh cedar]

I treat this DLC like a failed relationship. Had some fun, maybe could’ve been better. But the reality is the reality so I’ll just live with it

[fresh cedar]

Mods can get away with a lot more

[drifting star]

Did u see the shi storm they were in

[fresh cedar]

Yeah

Heck even Kaiserreich and RT56 have had their own controversy

Fire rises did it the most though, just bc how contemporary it is

Sadly many GOE paths inevitably would face similar scrutiny no matter what they included.

[drifting star]

Yeah but having a coup in your own dev team is insane

[fresh cedar]

Yeah 😂

[drifting star]

Wonder if the police are gunna get involved

[fresh cedar]

I honestly tend to just avoid mods or their development for that reason

Too much drama and often not enough quality control

[drifting star]

100%

[fresh cedar]

Like mods generally are just so unbalanced and completely ruined by metas or competing visions

[drifting star]

True but redux is fire alt

[fresh cedar]

That’s why I’ve always loved vanilla. And why the release and initial state of this dlc made me so depressed

[fresh cedar]

100%

[drifting star]

If paradox wanted to see what kind of alt history people would want this is it

[fresh cedar]

Think paradox did all it could short of adding a new tree/content to GOE. Like the communist ones are seriously lacking

[fresh cedar]

Redux lowkey goes a little far but tbh GDR kinda emulated it

Just in terms of German end game

[drifting star]

Prolly. I’d say the afgan tree is way better

[fresh cedar]

Honestly I feel like Afghanistan had to have had the must cut content

[drifting star]

Would have gone so hard. Like the tree for r56

[fresh cedar]

Personally I just kinda disliked how large and disjointed the GOE trees were. Like GDR and TOA have pretty clearly defined layouts. Meanwhile India is all over the freaking place

And quite honestly messy

[drifting star]

India has so many focuses that take too long

[fresh cedar]

56 goated

[fresh cedar]

I just mean the legit layout and size is kinda gross. Like TOA had political, industry, then military trees

[drifting star]

Like the constant war mechanic for Afghanistan was crazy

[fresh cedar]

India is like political, military, rail, industry, military industry, military recruiting, military

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

Honestly TOA overhated. Trees were clean and fun, plenty of room for expansion, fun end game, and worked quite well on release

[drifting star]

Yea the trees were fun especially Mapuche

A little to genocidal for my taste

[fresh cedar]

I liked commie Brazil, Mapuche, and German Argentina

[drifting star]

Ah yes the 4th riech

[fresh cedar]

In GOE, I kinda only like Communist India and Caliph Iraq

[drifting star]

Fun fact there was a cut ss path for Iran if Germany had civil war

[fresh cedar]

Communist India is super boring but it stabilizes you quite a lot and lets you actually fight wars decently early

[solid gyro]

Need to improve the Afghanistan focus tree

[fresh cedar]

That’s so sad

[drifting star]

What would be so cool is if we were able to get conditional surrender deals

[fresh cedar]

I’m praying diplomacy and peace deals are touched. Guarantees, war, and peace deals need work

[drifting star]

Like you could drain out the soviots and after like 3 years they will be like ok you can keep what you have leave us alone

Especially when deep in urals

[subtle gorge]

Offering the UK their surrender but they get to keep the empire 🔥

[fresh cedar]

How would you suggest improving? I totally agree. Like communist should get more cores and expansion. And Islamic needs more

[subtle gorge]

TWR moment

[solid gyro]

So I’m a hazara from Afghanistan right

[fresh cedar]

That would be awesome

[solid gyro]

I’m Turko mongolic

[subtle gorge]

This would be even cooler

[fresh cedar]

So like more expansion into the steppes

[solid gyro]

The Afghan focus tree was so one sided

It was towards one ethnicity of Afghanistan

[fresh cedar]

I said Afghanistan should be able to get formables on these

[drifting star]

I’m still waiting for them to become the kingdom of Israel

[fresh cedar]

A Timurid Path and a Durani path

[solid gyro]

Turkic dynasty

[drifting star]

Turko Persian empire

[fresh cedar]

That would be fun

[drifting star]

Who were they guys from the first crusade called

[fresh cedar]

Imagine one where Turkey and Afghanistan split Iran then can unite

[solid gyro]

Yh but the current Afghan focus tree only focuses on the iranic Pashtun people even tho half of the country is Turkic

Was really a let down

[fresh cedar]

Think they cut content that’s why

[drifting star]

There should have been a afgan Ottoman Empire

[drifting star]

Invite a prince and then go to town on Persia

Also there should be a trade intervention mechanic

Like if you start buying up oil bigger nations start to get suspicious

[fresh cedar]

I feel ya, think they played it a bit too safe after the Silk Road stuff. But I probably would too had I been in their position

Afghanistan in general probably could’ve gotten away with everything though

[drifting star]

They would have been in Fox News

[fresh cedar]

Fox only focuses on US stuff 😂

[drifting star]

Not when it involves video games

[fresh cedar]

Like genuinely 90% of it is just US Republican news

[drifting star]

They will if they can fear monger

[fresh cedar]

I’d know, I have grandparents who blast it

[drifting star]

Fair enough

They did a whole segment about an obscure 20 download Palestine game on steam. They would 100% pick up “ afgan Islamic revolution and caliphate game” where you can play as nazis

They would prolly find that memes about nazi femboys and make that the thumbnail

[solid gyro]

Yeah bro just hurts more my people didn’t get represented 😔

Despite making up like 20% of afg

[fresh cedar]

Crazy how Turkey has more Afghanistan Turkic content than Afghanistan lol

Yet Kurdistan gets a whole communist path for Iraq

[drifting star]

I like the Kurd path it’s goofy and fun

[fresh cedar]

Would be funny

[fresh cedar]

Honestly would’ve preferred a legit communist path and had that as a hidden one like Lichtenstein or something

Iraq would’ve been perfect for communist uprisings and a communist federation in the middleast

Turned into Kurdish larping 😭

[solid gyro]

Yh but they are culturally Turkic

We got persianized

But our dna is still mainly Turkic with mongolic influence

[fresh cedar]

Sorry that happened, it’s funny though bc even GOE is so much more in depth than past DLC’s. Like as an American I feel man the guns was so barebones when looking back, but at the time was amazing. Think we just got so used to the quality of NSB and GDR

[fresh cedar]

That makes sense

[solid gyro]

Nah I feel bad for you

🤣

No America update since idk when

[fresh cedar]

When Man the Guns came out it was a lot better than what we had before, and every dlc prior was so barebones. So it felt like a lot

[drifting star]

United States of the world

If only

Forming super earth

[fresh cedar]

Wish it had a North America formable

[quick sleet]

Well ill enter the game again when the April patch will release

[fluid grove]

I caught ai cheating

Denmark should NOT have 1.5mil soldiers

in 1938

Nah

aint playing ledigt

[hollow coral]

Funny thing is denmark has a advisor that probides like 20% monthly population growth if i remember

Interesting 🤔

[dense gale]

Did u on cheats urself

Because the ai doesn't cheat

If u turn on say I stant construction

It turns it on for everyone

Same for decisions no checks

And other stuff

[halcyon acorn]

@thick edge

your chad fr

[thick edge]

What

Fr

[halcyon acorn]

your a chad

[fresh cedar]

AI can kick people out of factions mid war too which is insanely broken

[fresh cedar]

Hate that IC and Focus_Nochecks does that

[fluid grove]

No i was in iron man mode so ai that to it self

[dusk mist]

how do you know denmark has 1.5 mil soldiers

in 1938

[drifting star]

Hopefully next update will have a resource diplomacy overhaul

And conditional peace deals

[fresh cedar]

Wish communist France got a similar formable as communist Germany

[thick edge]

Communist Germany has formables?

(I never touched it yet)

[stable tusk]

Yeah they got one where they core all of Western Europe

Well not all

All minus Italy and Iberia

I think

[thick edge]

So communist eu?

[stable tusk]

Ig

[fluid grove]

I was in war with them

[dusk mist]

that's not helping lol

[fluid grove]

Plus spys

Btw i found I think bug

[dusk mist]

do you have a screenshot?

[fluid grove]

question fish

If you call to arm and they should accpet and they are not is that buggy or just strange

[dusk mist]

it happens to me sometimes

[dusk mist]

generally it works after waiting a bit

but i would say buggy

if it doesn't work after a week or so in-game

[fluid grove]

I think i have a medal video on denmark thing

and soviet just took the only land that i could invade Romania

this is going great!

[winter osprey]

average mod enjoyer

[halcyon acorn]

even i dont play that much i only have like 200 hours on it bruh tahts like playin for 10 days traight brother has 1000 hours lets calculate thats like 50 days straight with playing this game damn

[wise oxide]

when GoE changes?

[hollow coral]

this month im pretty sure

[wise oxide]

it is i know

[wise oxide]

ik its april but more spesific

[fresh cedar]

They haven’t said

[quick sleet]

Waiting for this

[thick edge]

I have 2.5k

[tacit sequoia]

nice, lets hope they fix the india focus tree screen

[tacit sequoia]

hm

is hoi4 going to increase prices to america due to the ongoing tariff war? or is it going to be the same price.

[thick edge]

I think it wouldn’t count for digital stuff

[drifting star]

Wonder what they will add

Hopefully a Afghanistan overhaul

[dense gale]

idk if this is a bug

but i realised that non of the new dlc nation ever goes nonhist

if u turn off hist

[tacit sequoia]

Ok

[drifting star]

Nice

[timid parrot]

On god they haven't been able to fix the garrisons massively reducing resistance when under equipped bug in 3 months?

You literally cannot play the azad hind path...

[drifting star]

Fun fact if you go down the UK facist path none of the dominions go independent after declaring independence

[dusk mist]

Can you elaborate?

I wonder if it is something to do with the recent patches

[drifting star]

When you go facist , the dominions will go independent in opposition to your policies however instead it will just do nothing

[dusk mist]

Without doing "secure the dominions" or doing the civil war?

Also normally it takes some weeks or months

[drifting star]

Yes

They only leave the tech sharing group

[dusk mist]

Huh that must be a new bug then

[fresh cedar]

Iraq naval bug

Also, there’s a new bug with peace deals where if you cancel one state, it cancels all. So you have to re-select everything again. Not sure if it’s just Iraq

[lapis dragon]

The peace deal bug happened to me on other countries than Iraq.

[fresh cedar]

It’s pretty annoying

Will have to let Chak know I guess

[pseudo wing]

give me a specific bug report and perhaps a video here that I can point to the devs

that seems to be a weird issue

[fresh cedar]

Have the one Iraq text one for navy spirits. Which is kinda in line with what you were asking about before

Not even sure how the peace deal one happened. Just know that if you unselect one thing, it unselects everything.

[hollow lion]

I have the same bug

Not just Iraq

[split haven]

yeah i saw that it’s so annoying

[quiet verge]

Democratic Russia path

They didn't add because

[fresh cedar]

Average iSorrow fan

[hallow pivot]

Yezzz

[thick edge]

Fr

[astral pewter]

I found that mod before that video even existed

[fresh cedar]

Not gonna pretend Russia or NSB was a bad DLC because iSorrow needs to boost his comment engagement through rage bait and another negative take. NSB was an amazing DLC and Russia is incredibly fun

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/plnkfr1day-spongebob-not-shy-not-me-gif-21885461

[hollow coral]

Even if it was added when the dlc was released i wouldnt think it would be a path that everyone would play judging by other democratic paths

[fresh cedar]

For real, people barely play Spanish and German Dem paths

[harsh hull]

I exclusively play Democratic Germany

[hollow coral]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-looksmax-sigma-sigma-face-gif-232308269668432623

[pseudo wing]

gib link for the naval bug

As for the Peace deal thing, I can only push it further if there is a link to try and help them pinpoint the issue when it's on their radar

[fresh cedar]

Gib link?

[pseudo wing]

give me the bug report link

sorry, went slightly brain rot for a second

its quite early in the morning for me lol

[fresh cedar]

I’ve never submitted a formal bug report before. So I’ll have to do that later after work

It’s all good!

From what it seems like, the peace deal bug is happening to a ton of people. It’s pretty annoying as if you’ve selected like 50 states to be annexed, one wrong click and it wipes everything you selected

[pseudo wing]

yeah, I'd bet its frustrating as heck to have that happen especially in WC runs

but yeah, usually when there are these specific issues that are happening to multiple different people, the more bug reports I have to help them pinpoint different issues the better

[fresh cedar]

That makes sense

[pseudo wing]

because they tie in the bug reports to their work flows

[fresh cedar]

So after the war with the US, annexing the states was so annoying. Legit wiped itself like 6 times, after selecting 100+ states

I was losing it 😂

I’ll bug report it later!

[polar jasper]

Had it happen in my kaiserreich game

[proper dune]

Based

[echo quiver]

Ah, so you're the one who creates mega factions in Europe every game 🗿

[timber ice]

guys is it historically accurate for allies to guarantee everyone?

[hollow lion]

Usually not ig

[steel coral]

Maybe? They usually do it for me

[timber ice]

Wait wrong channel supposed to send that in #hoi4-general

As a joke

[thick edge]

(Def not stolen from Reddit))

[hollow coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183618142501621840/1344192134399524934/Hoi4ChinaProject.gif

I got this gif from a youtube video

Whos the original then

[thick edge]

lol

I need a mod for this though

[hollow coral]

Brick divisions

[hasty fox]

@static hull ????

[drifting star]

Can’t wait till they update the how focuses , I wonder what they will change

[fresh cedar]

How focuses?

[fresh cedar]

Sorry Chak, work has been mega busy so wasn’t able to. Is the patch going to be soonish or later this month? Debating on how soon to submit the bug

Not that it’s gamebreaking but it seems to effect a lot of people and is annoying

[pseudo wing]

I dont know if I can answer it or not

(genuinely) but I'd ask for a bug report anyway

[pseudo wing]

whether or not its gamebreaking, i do not think its intended and it should have a bug report

[fresh cedar]

Didn’t want you to leak it or anything so I’m sorry if I put you in that position 😂

[fresh cedar]

Yes sir 🫡

[drifting star]

Goe

[pseudo wing]

yeah I was like 'why am I answering this, this isnt Slack' for a split second before I hit enter

[fresh cedar]

Wait there’s an ingame bug report system?! 😅

[fresh cedar]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/peace-deal-bug-unselecting-one-states-unselects-everything.1734863/

There

Sorry for not attachment, Not home

[drifting star]

Suggestion : make a button for peace conferences that says “demand all cores” and one that says “demand all claims” also maybe a event to an allied nation that holds your claim to give it to you if they annex it

[harsh hull]

Actually good suggestion for once

Nice

[fresh cedar]

If only

[drifting star]

Let’s boost this to the devs

[polar jasper]

Me waiting for a peace conference feature where countries with claims and cores on states are the only ones who can bid on said states.

[fresh cedar]

Or weight it for AI that way. Would like players to have the freedom

[fallen zenith]

Stats with cores or claims are cheaper so its already kind of a thing. Also would kinda suck to try and abnex something and have it be locked bcs the AI yoinked it

[polar jasper]

Well. If multiple people have the same cores, only they could bid on it.

That's the idea at least, only countries with cores on it could compete. Puppets made in peace deals could count too I suppose

If the puppet has cores on it

[hollow coral]

What if your trying to do a formable and you need it to get the cores

[polar jasper]

Okay. My logic is flawed

[drifting star]

My idea is just a button that you can click that just auto picks all claims and cores

[fallen zenith]

But then you'd need to fully claim a country to annex it. Which'd just turn HOI4 into a waiting for truce simulator just like EU4 is sometime

I can somewhat see the point of limiting what you can take but it doesn't really make sense. Maybe if its for the first 1-3 turns in a peacedeal? But then again you can already contest other countries during a peacedeal. So it seems to just be a somewhat useless mechanic that'd just drag the game out and it wouldn't be realistic either way

[hollow coral]

the ability to annex whole countries like france is so bs

[fallen zenith]

It'd break the game if you couldn't tho. Imagine trying to world conquest and annex the US when you'd only get 5 states every so often while waiting for a truce.

[hollow coral]

fair enough

the fact your whole army can get deleted after a peacedeal is just weird though

[thick edge]

Peak?

[prisma wing]

👀

[civic vine]

wait by shared branch do they mean like a shared focus tree?

[sleek tinsel]

this is huge for mp

[civic vine]

if so that would be interesting. finally making use of shared focus trees again would be cool

[sleek tinsel]

no longer having to spend 5m designing

[cobalt jay]

Not really since you tend to memorize designs

[sleek tinsel]

yes but im lazy id rather click one button rather than 25

[oblique axle]

noice

[amber orbit]

✋🇺🇳

✋🇪🇺

[spice coral]

it’s more convenient

[fresh cedar]

These will be really nice

Love the saving of Designs across games too.

Hope they allow the same for MIO’s eventually

Hate having to select the exact same MIO paths every game.

[civic vine]

so the AI are hard coded to do the shared focus tree if you open it lmao

in historical that is

[fresh cedar]

What do the focuses add?

[civic vine]

dude there's like 17 focuses lmao I am not writing it all out. but here i'll give you run down of the effects you'll get if you complete most of it

[long ruin]

What’s a dev corner ?

[spice coral]

it’s a corner with devs

[hallow torrent]

super happy with the new patch

absolute breath of fresh air

[novel panther]

Now we just need this for divisions and it’s going to be perfect 🤩

[thick edge]

Now we need a totally balanced path at the end to annex and core everyone within the pact

[fresh cedar]

That’s actually pretty strong!

[civic vine]

well that's over like... 17 focuses lol

but honestly it was finished in the first year of the game because all the AI are hard coded to do it

[harsh hull]

Oof, finally, saved designs

I might actually use tanks and planes again

[obtuse ingot]

Is there a 🤔rabbinic /theocratic Germany path

[hearty blade]

a what

[obtuse ingot]

Theocracy branch

[civic vine]

fun fact, if you break off as kurdistan you still keep the saadabad pact

[crisp rivet]

Day one of waiting til updated achievement of “My words are backed by nuclear weapons”

Still not fixed due to needed spirit not being in game with DLC

[floral scaffold]

Think the Scandinavia Norden council focus tree

[civic vine]

yeah I know lol im looking at it now

[crisp rivet]

Or Belgium and Congo tree

[fresh cedar]

For real, I just run infantry mostly now bc I can’t be bothered

[fresh cedar]

Monarchy trees are the closest to it but no.

[harsh hull]

So what do you all think of GoE now a month after release, now they've finally made the effort to try finishing the thing after releasing it?

[fresh cedar]

It’s playable and pretty fun now. Less of an expansion sandbox as trials of allegiance was but it has a few fun trees

[harsh hull]

Is it cool that they owned up to their mistake and actually tried to correct it instead of leaving it dangling and moving onto the next project?

Is it too little too late?

Does the content match expectations pre-release?

[fresh cedar]

I’d rather see a company try to make something right than not, and I think they put a really good effort in

[harsh hull]

This right here?

Based

[hollow coral]

Thats rlly random lol but welcome back

[harsh hull]

Of course, "Maghreb" just translates to "west" I believe

So that's the Emirate of West

[hollow coral]

Now these formables actually make sense

[harsh hull]

The Emirate of West controlling the western portions of the Desert Desert

Poetic

Alright, that name makes more sense etymologically at least

[obtuse ingot]

Jewish Germany would be so based.

[harsh hull]

Zionist conspiracy Germany is one of those joke paths I keep waiting to have appear in a mod

[obtuse ingot]

No. I mean like instead of target them the Germans embrace them and use them against the true enemy…

[hollow coral]

Whats funny is that one of the starting generals for afghanistan is completely made up im pretty sure

Mahmud tarzi

[obtuse ingot]

The French

[hollow coral]

They have portraits for some guys that were military officers yet arent even generals which is kinda sad

[thick edge]

What

[hearty blade]

thats some KX path

not base hoi4

that is never gonna happen im afraid

[obtuse ingot]

based as in “cool”

[hearty blade]

sounds like a cool path for kx not vanilla hoi4 lol

[obtuse ingot]

• pay off war debt
• claims on Russian land
• extra manpower and stuff

[thick edge]

It’s weird since, we all know what that country did to Jewish people

As ame said

Never

[drifting star]

Rothschild France path ?

I’m suprised that has not been made

[fresh cedar]

Can someone show me the Mesopotamia cores?

[thick edge]

That’s a thing?

[drifting star]

I would have really like a way for Afghanistan to core Persia

Seeing as it’s next door

But I really like the pact path

[steep ermine]

So, according to the open 1.16.5 beta patch notes, there's no way for Iraq to become a puppet of the UK after capitulating. Why can't we? The regency was only restored after Iraq had surrendered, not before. That focus, as well as Iran's own "swear fealty tot he invaders" focus, seem tailor made for that situation.

[hollow coral]

France dlc was made when they atleast had some semblance of reality

[thick edge]

i looked in the hoi wiki and couldnt find it

[drifting star]

But this is reality 🥸

[drifting star]

They just added it

[thick edge]

ohhhh

imma wait for it to update then

[drifting star]

This is new

Or u could just play it yourself

[hollow coral]

Its open beta

Ill see it tomorrow

[thick edge]

idk which country u need to form it

[hollow coral]

Iraq, kuwait, syria, lebanon im pretty sure

[thick edge]

i didnt read that far

hm

[fresh cedar]

I imagine it will be comparable to Assyria formable

They should allow Malta to form it 😂

Tenth crusade 😌

[pseudo wing]

Okay, now that I have had my tea, how are we liking the open beta stuff?

Also @fresh cedar now you understand why I didn't answer your question yesterday XD

[fresh cedar]

Yeah I figured, plus don’t wanna leak when stuff comes out bc people spam ask

[fresh cedar]

Really like the additions tbh.

[steep ermine]

I got a question, will there be improvements to Iraq's focuses, paticularly the "restore the regent" focus to allow us to take it after capitulating? Iraq historically only restored the regency after surrendering. Also I think Iraq's historical strategy plan needs some improvements to prevent an early war and to not surrender prematurely

[pseudo wing]

There's a possibility of it, though of course I can't promise anything

The Beta will most likely have different iterations of it added and whatnot to change/nerf/buff things

[pseudo wing]

I figured you'd like another Formable, even if its not an exact one you asked for

[fresh cedar]

The two formables are good!

Gives countries a goal which is nice

Even with generic trees, formables still make it fun

I’d legit buy a dlc of just formables 😂

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-notes-daffy-duck-looney-tunes-gif-17872468

[fresh cedar]

Maybe a monument dlc is more realistic though

[pseudo wing]

I agree, even if a country doesn't currently have a Focus Tree, a formable is a good end-goal for them to have

[pseudo wing]

I am hoping for something like this XD

[fresh cedar]

Like Morocco is actually insanely fun bc of this

Sad they couldn’t get your Quebec one in

[pseudo wing]

my quebec one is a pipe dream that is funny as hell to me

that's all

[fresh cedar]

If Spain can core their former colonial empire, one of the French monarchies should too tbh

[steep ermine]

Thanks for the answer. I'd also add Iran's "swear fealty to invaders" to the list of focuses that should be available after capitulating. It gives Iraq and Iran players a chance to continue playing after capitulating.

[fresh cedar]

Less far fetched than the Spanish one too bc France still had a large colonial empire

[pseudo wing]

I'd think the main difference would be Spain can do it, but having Quebec do it as a non-major would disqualify it to a degree

[fresh cedar]

Oh totally agree

[pseudo wing]

doesn't mean I don't want to curse everyone by making Quebec stronger

[fresh cedar]

Granted a greater Quebec formable with slightly more cores would be cool, or like a French Canada formable

[pseudo wing]

[pseudo wing]

I'd suggest putting that in a reply over on the forum post about it, to ensure that it is seen

if you haven't/ someone hasn't already

[vast ether]

I also posted this to the forum, but I don't see the open beta in my list on Steam https://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/public/1271824/1744207585055.png

[pseudo wing]

did you scroll in the drop down menu?

it should be at the very bottom iirc

[vast ether]

I didn't know it could scroll

[fresh cedar]

Chak, imagine this as a “Greater Quebec” formable though

Not even unrealistic 😌

[vast ether]

thank you

[pseudo wing]

yeah when you click the betas portion, scroll and its all the way at the bottom

[azure crag]

this one?

[pseudo wing]

correct

[vast ether]

listen I was all prepared to be "typical game company can't even upload the beta patch" when in fact it was "typical user can't even use the computer"

[pseudo wing]

Listen man, we all have those days is all good

I couldn't remember where I put my knife yesterday to open packages and it was... in my hand

[coral drift]

Wwhoever reacted the ID flag there before me, i love you.

[fresh cedar]

I’ve done that with my home before

Can someone whose home show what the Mesopotamia cores are though 😂

I’ll do it once home but kinda curious

[coral drift]

I hope it's just a reworked "Neo-Assyrian Empire" formable with less territory requirement.
So that if Assyria formed Mesopotamia, they got renamed NAE instead.

[fresh cedar]

I kinda got the vibe it would be similar

[coral drift]

True, true.

Also, for the one heeded my suggestion to rename Majapahit to Nusantara, i love you.

Ernest Douwes Dekker needs more respect, and HoI4 has honored him by adding his suggested nation name there.

I hope in the next DLC he would appear as an advisor.

[thick edge]

greater Greater Quebec can core all of French North america

like imagine coring most of Center USA

[coral drift]

Using QUE as base to form French NA like the AOI tag did would be neat.

(we need more tag reusing rather than adding tags)

[pseudo wing]

erm 🤓 It's Acktshually La Nouvelle Monde

(I'm still huffing copium that it'll be added eventually)

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/octodice-gif-16025057363883231181

i saw u typing nattmaran

[fresh cedar]

If only

[errant forge]

Soooo... This is Mesopotamia, as non-aligned. It isn't the biggest, and we've struggled to find dedicated flags so they will retain their old flags, but from someone who loves that part of history too much, I couldn't not add this when I saw the people wanted more formables and cores 😅

[fresh cedar]

That’s pretty cool, does remind me of Assyria! Thank you 🙂

[pseudo wing]

He-Hey Nattmaran, so about that Nouvelle Monde Formable that everyone is asking for.....

[errant forge]

-nattmaran has left the chat- 😂

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-panda-panda-mad-commercial-gif-5416416

[errant forge]

I'm intrigued though, what are the people asking for?

[thick edge]

what does the flag look like?

[crisp rivet]

I request for A fix to an Indian achievement

[errant forge]

While we obviously can't guarantee anything, I do want to hear feedback and suggestions, otherwise I wouldn't be here every now and then

[fresh cedar]

A greater Quebec formable. Either just taking eastern Canada or at most Louisiana territories too

Also west African formable 😉

[errant forge]

As said, no flags from that early, so we have let the countries keep their old flags. This is a name, and cores, with some flavor more than anything else. But! If you have genuine flags, please, send them to me, I'd love to add that in a patch!

[crisp rivet]

“My words are backed by nuclear weapons” achievement is unattainable since the spirit you need isn’t in the game with GoE

[brittle venture]

Yes west african formable would be great, content dry area

Like dry of any content whatsoever rn

[fresh cedar]

Would have decent cores too

[errant forge]

is there a bug report for this? otherwise, please make one 🙏 that does sound like a bug and I'd like to take a look at that but might not be able at this immediate moment

[pseudo wing]

My suggestion was that (using Quebec's flag) for them to have a formable all the way down to Louisanna since that is historically the land La Nouvelle Monde had before being sold off to the US

[fresh cedar]

If Morocco can do Umayyad, or Tuva Mongol Empire. Quebec should be stronk too 😌

[errant forge]

... Are you requesting Chonkbec again Chak? 😅

[pseudo wing]

.....mayhaps

LISTEN, I HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR IT

It's because I asked nicely

[fresh cedar]

The fans yearn for chonkbec

[thick edge]

the children yearn for the formables

[brittle venture]

You hear it all the time in general chat 'when is quebec getting a focus tree?' theres like 50,000 of those messages on this server

[errant forge]

Your request has been noted, I can't guarantee it, but I hear the yearning for the alternative Chonkanada 😅

[crisp rivet]

The fans yearn for United America formable

[fresh cedar]

Already exists with Chile Mapuche path

[pseudo wing]

fact checked by TRUE HOI players 100% don't look into it

[brittle venture]

But more seriously, west africa, less state defined borders in the US/a way to aestetically split it between japan/germany mostly are seriously good for map painting/gameplay

[crisp rivet]

I meant, united North American

USA, Canada, Mexico

[fresh cedar]

West Africa would go so hard

[fresh cedar]

That would be nice

[brittle venture]

Also mongolia formable would be cool maybe

[steep ermine]

Well, I have been harping this here and in the forums (sorry for being so insistent about this), but could you make Iraq's "restore the regency" focus and Iran's "swear fealty to invaders" focus available for when these two capitulate. They seem to be made for these situation to allow player to continue playing after losing and not give up before their fate is sealed.

[brittle venture]

It has none rn, neither does mengkukuo, itd be neat

Imo

[thick edge]

i could make a joke about this but my lawyer advises me not too

[fresh cedar]

If I made the formables myself and sent them to paradox, would they add 😂

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-halloween-halloween-knife-stab-slashing-gif-15612596

[thick edge]

its not politcal dw

[pseudo wing]

I know exactly what you were going to stay, the GIF is relevant

[errant forge]

Standard dev response of; I will try to have a look into it, but I can't leave any guarantees.

[crisp rivet]

An old lady with a knife is as scary as child with a le pew-pew

[pseudo wing]

tell that to my granny, she was terrifying with a knife

[fresh cedar]

Tibet unites AfroEurasia when?

[brittle venture]

Tibet is one of the few regions without a regional formable

[fresh cedar]

Not sure what it would become tbh

[brittle venture]

Unite the himalayas seems obvious

[fresh cedar]

Quick snack for China and India 😍

[brittle venture]

What bums me out a bit is that the south american union thing cant be done by anyone cuz its dlc locked

[fresh cedar]

Wait can Egypt do the Mesopotamia thing

[brittle venture]

Would be cool if it was a 1 decision formable without the dlc on

[fresh cedar]

Didn’t realize I insta bought TOA 😂

[brittle venture]

Like i have the dlc i just think itd be neat

[fresh cedar]

Honestly had more fun with TOA than NSB or GDR

[errant forge]

yup they sure can

[fresh cedar]

That’s sick!

[errant forge]

There is some small part of Egypt in there so I thought it justified 😄

[fresh cedar]

Egypt lowkey the best candidate too

Next Malta will have a Crusader kingdom of the Levant formable 😂

[brittle venture]

Egypt starts with 1 dam and 1 civ

Theyre not that strong

[fresh cedar]

Manpower tho

They got like 13 mil or more

[brittle venture]

Its like 15-20mil core pop

Not that insane

[fresh cedar]

Yeah that’s pretty strong

[brittle venture]

Considering youll have to rely on infantry asia style without asian core pop its eh

[fresh cedar]

Consider they have pretty easily defendable borders and great expansion routes

Now can reach more with Mesopotamia

And then also do Arabia

I might actually try Egypt

Would’ve been sick if they got like some cool ancient Egyptian flag

[brittle venture]

I will tell you now

It isnt that strong

[fresh cedar]

I mean I’ve played them prior to this, which buffs them considerably

And I made it work before

[brittle venture]

Same..

[fresh cedar]

Morocco probably still be my go to but want to try

[errant forge]

As said, no flags implemented for Mesopotamia... yet, but I will be keeping check on suggestions if something we can use crops up ^^

[brittle venture]

Its probably a bug i havent filed or anything but the western sahara does not have a military high command

[fresh cedar]

Would the flags be country specific or generally as Mesopotamia so same for all

[brittle venture]

Does make them by far the hardrst country though so thats something

Hardest*

[pseudo wing]

probably just generally

if I'd have to guess

considering there aren't many flags for such a time present anyway?

[fresh cedar]

I guess the best you’d have to work with is iconography

So like which would best translate into a flag

[pseudo wing]

then there's the question of whether or not another flag has the same iconography which would muddy the waters, so to speak

[fresh cedar]

Yeah

[pseudo wing]

It's one of those things that could be cool but realistically difficult to get 'right'

[fresh cedar]

Right, like what would a modern people choose to represent their area

[errant forge]

Ideally, we'd want Mesopotamia specific. This is due to how script works and such. And just as Chak says, my research yielded nothing, and we do care about things being "right" as well, hence the choice not to create a flag

[fresh cedar]

Ik some just have an outline of their border on a flag

Like communist could easily be a border one

[fresh cedar]

I figured, would be insanely complex to have so many

Maybe an outline of the ziggurat of Urr for the fascist/non aligned?

[errant forge]

Exactly, HoI script supports many things (no really, it's pretty cool!) but this is not one of the easiest things for it to handle

[fresh cedar]

Basically is different formables at that point

[errant forge]

precisely! flags are read from the tag, looking something like my_cosmetic_tag_democratic, and then the flag has to be named the same thing to show up

(This has been Nattmaran's TED talk on hoi script and flags 😅 )

[mild otter]

I was hoping for secret hitler path for Iran, but we got mesopotamia instead

[fresh cedar]

I figured as much

[quick sleet]

The game is great again?@joe.p_

@fresh cedar

[fresh cedar]

To me yeah

[quick sleet]

This is the big change to goe yeah

[drifting star]

suggestion: ottoman sinkang ( based on historical attempt by Japanese to install a ottoman

Xinjiang*

This would be fun and someone what plausible alt history

Nvm his sons would be 6 years old at game start

[coral drift]

Just asking, does this supplanted the existing Neo-Assyrian Empire formable?

[coral drift]

In my mod, i gave them Red-White-Black flags since the gist of the formable is just a regional union rather than tied to a specific ethnic or religion.

[coral drift]

Any Berber nations should've been able to form Tamazgha rather than an empire from more than 4 centuries ago.

[coral drift]

AOI-ized Quebec would be good. They keep their cores on Francophone Canada, but otherwise have a compliance+manpower modifier on the claimed French North American territories.

[coral drift]

Just on Mengjiang, Buryatia, and claims on Mongol minorities states, pls.

Keep the empire formable as focus tree-only.

[astral knot]

my gogo gaga died

[coral drift]

I mean, for the Greater Indonesian formable in my mod, i've added "Integrate Northern Malaya", "Integrate Papua", and changed the name to Nusantara despite only asking the latter in the forums, yet they added it in-game.

Take that as a yes.

[tired acorn]

Well this is new

[drifting star]

This is a really nice addition

Is their a integration option ?

Like annexing Iraq, iran and Afghanistan

How have Turkish tree been effected

Also please add nidhal as an ottoman successor to abdulbecid

[polar jasper]

No, the idea is the rest of the country would be up for everyone. It is just that if a person has claims or cores, they can get them without having to bid against everyone, aside from maybe others who had competing claims/cores.

The idea that it would be open for everyone after a few turns is a good idea

[polar jasper]

More focuses for Turkey to do lol

[fallen zenith]

I mean thats technically already somewhat a thing by making claims cheaper during a peacedeal. And tbh with the new contesting system I've not had any problems getting the claims I needed

[drifting star]

They realized that turkeys tree was going by too quickl

*ly

[fallen zenith]

Also would open the game up for cheese since if someone doesn't do anything in a war they'll still get their 5 claims for doing nothing

[drifting star]

We need new ottoman focuses

[polar jasper]

My only problem with the peace system is when the price becomes so expensive because of a bidding war, the country's old government remains in a few states

[polar jasper]

Fair

[fallen zenith]

Yea I feel like the AI should focus more on taking unclaimed states

Instead of adding a system like that

To stop those types of bidding wars. Bcs they're just dumb

[drifting star]

Negotiating claims for joining faction

[polar jasper]

I still remember that game Hitler got exiled to Tunisia and the first thing he does is justify a war goal on Poland to reclaim Danzig

[drifting star]

Basically conditional factions

[polar jasper]

I guess there was a bidding war to either liberate Tunisia or annex it

[polar jasper]

I know Italy has focuses that lower cost when annexing African territory when they join the Allies or something like that

[drifting star]

Yea but more of a “give me my claims” I’ll join / not join type beat

[brittle venture]

itd be great if ai did their excav decisions

hate it that they dont

or at least after a certain point they dont i cant tell if they do it early

[brittle venture]

penguin leader when.....

[fresh cedar]

What would you add?

[drifting star]

Just focuses that give war goals on mid east, demanding Albania from Italy , and a constitutional sultanate path

But demanding Albania needs to happen

[pure schooner]

Saving designs is such a good update

Looks like pdx was keeping all the good stuff lol

It saves so much time

[twilit jolt]

insane Turkey buff (they shaved off 70 days)

[drifting star]

Lmao

[hollow coral]

Lots of new portraits in the files

And when i say lots i mean like at most 9

[hollow coral]

nah we need turkish industrial focuses

[green lantern]

so true

[fresh cedar]

Just did ottomans last night and it definitely felt better

My session was ruined because in the span of a year 4 different factions declared war on me by that’s whatever

[hollow coral]

unrelated but syria and lebanon shouldnt change to fascism when they come under vichy

either that or they change to fascism but get a new leader

nvm scrap that whole thing

[fresh cedar]

<@&846894118219022336>

Please no one click that link

[thick edge]

I clicked it

It’s real

Trust me

[hollow coral]

Seems legit

[coral drift]

Can anyone confirm in the files whether the Mesopotamian formable is a retooled Neo-Assyrian Empire or an entirely new one?

[fresh cedar]

Seems slightly different

But maybe that’s just bc I didn’t start as Assyria so didn’t feel as nerfed

[coral drift]

For the love of God make it like Greater Greece formable where you can get different way to form and slightly different cores depending on your situation.

[hearty blade]

for the love of god make greater turkey just core the entire world and edit all the names to go from normal os to os with the dot and the tall i and the u with the dots too

[fresh cedar]

The moon too

[polar jasper]

I want a mod where a Turkish tree was designed by a Greek nationalist and a Greek tree designed by a Turkish nationalist and see how they play out

I think it would be funny

[fresh cedar]

So generic trees

[languid depot]

Obviously the only path would be to submit to the other

[hearty blade]

that'd be fun

[hearty blade]

u mean möön?

[polar jasper]

I'm pretty sure it would be weaker than the generic tree lol

[fresh cedar]

Probably

[fresh cedar]

💀💀💀

[hazy rock]

why does my game keep saving like every minute even tho i have it on never ?

[fresh cedar]

Ironman?

I think Ironman overwrites the frequency and has it on like weekly or something

[hazy rock]

yea

u were right

[fresh cedar]

I noticed that too bc I was like WHY IS IT SO FREQUENT

[brittle venture]

ironman forces weekly autosaves

would be great QoL if that wasnt the case

[fresh cedar]

I get why, makes it harder to cheese

[brittle venture]

hoi4 ironman is the most punishing ironman of the pdx games lol

[fresh cedar]

Yeah

[brittle venture]

in vic3 you can get archievements with ironman off btw

just for some reference

[fresh cedar]

Isn’t stellaris similar or at the least can tweak it so much

[brittle venture]

thats ck3 character creation

idk for stellaris

dont play it that much tbh

[fresh cedar]

Pretty sure you can mega tweak stellaris

[brittle venture]

they should add an archievement to hoi for using ironman

thats an archievement on its own

[fresh cedar]

I only ever play Ironman 😂

[brittle venture]

wow ok weirdo