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Japan + china region doc
Not in that order though idk
This is just the possibilied
For money making
Just Tanna Tuva DLC for 69 dollar
what do yall think about this
what do you think it's going to be updated and changed
or maybe added?
Ireland focus tree š„
Nothing
i hope they give the new arab countries simple but fun trees bc rn they should not exist with the op generic tree they are boosting uk economy so much
They refuse to fix the Turkish focus tree after years but you think they will seriously fix this 
if paradox actually was fair they would make all old trees bettr
better with updates and not a dlc that gives a new tree for the same country but idk
i just want balance and quality of life and some realism thats more important than scizo trees for every nation ( in my humble opinion)
To be fair war effort has fixed a few
pdx redemption ark
Spanish Empire, Warlords
i respect them for doing something atleast bc some mods like road to 56 give us monthly free dlc and quality of life balance and bugfix and amazing focustrees pretty often
the modding community is so impressive
it was great but what did they do to spanish empire?
Added a few focuses, reworked some advisors and spirits. And at the end of the tree it can core its former empire if occupied
Effectively can core that
So added a much better end goal
do they get claims on philippines
still pretty cool
So theoretically they can make similar additions to other countries
can you do it as carlist spain?
Would be neat to have something similar for French Empire
Nope
Carlist is more about non core and attack buffs
Think Carlist gets compliance bonuses anyways
Yup
30 mins for patch?
though personally I'd like to see something similar, just not the same thing
Many countries could benefit from similar flavor and touch ups
give or take a few minutes I think, yeah, but dont hold me to it, steam do be wonky this week
Would ask for Japan to get a similar face lift but I feel thereās something greater in store for it
they may get a dlc in half a year
my bets are on japan or usa dlc
november most likely
Yes I can take everything but would be neat to maybe incorporate new states
usa is too easy rn
Wouldnāt say easy, still need to know how to play to do well
i just kill japan on the first week to get 0 score
i just learned how to micro my starting navy
and i invade mexico c i can and hope that allies declare on me to get land as democratic usa
Wish the game alerted you when you go over ship limits. Like if more than 4 carriers in strike group, warns, too many battleships, over 100 in a stack etc
Iām just supposed to remember the perfect ratios lol
Top Strat
i wish you could move navy like land troops
You kinda can wdym
to get bombardment and blockades easily
For shame Chak
Like attach navies to units similar to rail arty or what
Bc you can tell navies to stay in a tile and bombard
just to move it easily
bc is it patrol where you can move them manually?
If you select them you can tell them to go to any tile and theyāll sale to it
Yeah
If not on a mission you can tell them to just sit anywhere
So you can place a death stack by an island youāre about to invade or block straits
dont they sit in the port then?
or just click the port hold/port/chill button
Itās legit like infantry where you select and can tell them to walk somewhere
(If ships could walk)
Not cwinge š„¹
insert that bane quote about being raised in the darkness, but replace it with cringe
and you'd have me
Actually never saw that movie
it was ok, ain't much of a batman guy tbh
Saw the joker one and the other one
Heath Ledger was very very good though, RIP to him
Iām more marvel but less into supers as of late
Was INSANELY good
Donāt worry Chak, if they donāt make a greater Quebecoisiana formable I will
You better, can't let the people down
(I'm people)
that name is just cursed though
"United Kingdom: Puppets breaking away from the UK when it goes fascist/communist should now function correctly" --> is this the uk civil war bug?
elephant nerf 
yes
Paradox gave us head
Iām guessing I can play my previous game save from yesterday with this patch?
it should be save compatible
Added an event chain for Syria and Lebanon that allows them to side with Vichy/Free France or declare independence when Paris falls. this is just what i wanted on release
peak
I just rebooted Steam and had a 224 MB patch
they finally nerfed elephants
yeeeeeeeeees, my gosh i am so happy
i reported that bug weeks ago after so much frustration with the game, was convinced it would never be seen and never resolved
I am so happy now
Yoooo
paradox is actually doing something!
I took a look at the patch notes and they look pretty neat
Alright Iāll have to try it when I get home, was a good amount of fixes
Same
Really hoping war effort turns Arabia into a tiered formable
One thing I didn't see though was regarding the Mughal's MIOs, are they meant to keep the British Indian Division MIOs?
Who knows, maybe planned for a later patch/effort
I believe Arheo or someone had mentioned an MIO rework
The mechanic? Or the ones assigned to the GoE countries?
The mechanic I believe
Oo, if you got a screenshot or link I'd like to see
Yes, let me sort through the myriad of paradox responses. One sec lol
Bet lmao
Operation head is kinda crazy
Man's out here being a whole ass spy agency with his contacts
yeeeaaaaaaaah
Neat! It's cool to see they considered it
MECHANICAL REWORK LETS GO
ALSO, did you guys see on the updated roadmap, Operation Toe hidden in the fog of war
Itās nice because I know paradox is super stressed rn with the release. So to have the community and them bridge the gap a little with the childrenās song is nice
I agree on where they're coming from with the idea of a wider rework
Yess, and knowing what I know about games design and the industry, they deserve any sorta break they get haha
I thought this was going to be patched today?
It's possible it's reserved for one of.the later patches
From the Paradox forums:
It didnāt particularly specify what will be fixed
I imagine such things are coming. But if you want to bring attention to it I suggest the forums
Ah they did lol
I know "should be" is not definitely but I was expecting a fix unless I am doing it wrong now.
Well wonder if it got delayed?
You got all of India as it?
I think the patches are just a priority list maybe?
Thatās impressive, the thing came out like 20 mins ago
What I tried was to start as British Raj but I cannot release Khalistan...you need to start with the country and it's not selectable when pre-game start
Go communist and you can release everything
I donāt think historical/starter Raj can release anything
Sort of like how Spain and other countries canāt at the start
Think itās intended that way
I'll double check this, might not get an answer though myself, still will ask
Feel like they donāt allow initial releases bc can cheese india a bit if you just do a ton of puppets
Thanks @pseudo wing . If it still needs to be patched it's no problem of course, just want to know what should be the right way to obtain this achievement.
Perhaps, the only fix I see now in the patch note is "India: The game rule to make India go down the historical path will no longer block achievements". I will see how far I can get
Think youād have to go pretty far in historical to release countries
Like around Ghandi as leader
Otherwise quickest in autonomy path
Aww nice, patch notes
Added an event chain for Syria and Lebanon that allows them to side with Vichy/Free France or declare independence when Paris falls
Can you link me to the Expansion Pass 2 pre-order? I know Iām going to purchase it anyway whatever it is
Don't wanna be that guy...
But how the f- does do you muck that one up?
or is it actually specifically designed that way to be bullet points into -
See, there you go, that's already something
Argentina also had like 28% attack buff on release. It just be like that
While elephants are cracked, theyāre stupid expensive
oh no no, im no talking about that- im talking about the oddly set ocd triggering patch notes
Oh š
Ngl I think Jordan should've been given the conquer Hejaz focus instead of Iraq
So they don't fixed the new countries not having a port...
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/syria-jordan-and-burma-cannot-access-the-sea-because-they-dont-have-any-port.1730473/
Thatās wild
Looking in the files now, they added a new "GOE generic events" file for this
I thought ur not allowed to disguise linksā¦
Looks like they'll agree to join Vichy guaranteed if historical is on
I just wanna see if it functions as intended on historical
And they also get a new cosmetic tag? Let's see...
its with - and not bullet points because the bullet points are related to the thing above it
because I did it.
Oh, just the same as the starting cosmetic tag
Didn't fix Syria's name though, which is a shame
because the numbers are related to the point above it, and not something new
bullet points are for new things
Do the new puppets also get different leaders and country names depending on ideology? Or naw
my ocd from past patches is just triggered
;P
Atleast it was symmetrical back with either using -
or said bullet points
STOP CHANGING YOUR WAYS RAAAH
the asymmetry bothered me too, but steam gonna do steam things, it doesnt like me no matter what I do, because I have to format everything in BB code
Oh simpy, keep the OCD in your div template names
Steam formatting wacky af, even for modding
indeed
Why don't they simplify it :(
Same reason steam won't allow workshop co-authors upload perms for god knows what reason for the past 6 years, they don't care
Man I hope my government arenāt putting tariffs on video games from the United States š©
Me when big men are apathetic
PDX is swedish though.
But they sell it through steam which is in America
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Chak is gonna love this
Next US focus tree rework needs to have a mechanic where you can tariff all your allies
Too bad Churchill only wore suits š
There needs to be a decision for UK to put on a suit
India: Fixed a typo in the description of the Risk of Famine national spirit, where "loses" is misspelled as "looses"
I love they had to specifically mention this one, instead of just generically saying "minor typo fixes" or some such
Can Mughals now whitepeace with the allies?
or still enters the war woth all allies?
@pseudo wing I tried to fiddle around with the achievement and look at the achievements.txt file but I don't see a difference
Isnāt the Mughal the path that leads to the Timurids?
I posted this one last week pre-patch, double fascist still visible
yes and no
but yes
Like the princely path right, not fascist
yes
They already could WP the allies after like 240 days or something
this is your answer
You could check it in decisions

being al hind yes
but being mughals not
I tried Mughals 3 times and every time I white peaced
Wdym can you elaborate
when you first break away you can wp
Like the initial civil war or the subsequent war against India
yeah no where tf is the bugfix????
I donāt think youāre meant to WP them in the main war. As Lily said, itās meant to be very hard
but when you do this , the second uprising you enter war with all allies
Chak my friend, do you know if they plan to revise the writing for some of the focus descriptions? I noticed there might have been some oversights in the East India Company descriptions for example, in like the Lobby Parliament focus and the Incorporation of the East India Company focus
oversights in what way
Chak do we know if the 0 infrastructure states are intended? Some states such as in Afghanistan have 0 which eats supply
Give me oneee sec I just got home
Sorry for all the questions today Chak

Yeah, I think itās meant to be that way
bruh its too hard
I'm pretty sure those states having 0 infra is designed because they didn't have any
That makes sense
unless its reverting to 0, in which case i have no idea
burma shouldnt have worse infra then god damn mongolia, u guys forgot to actually asign a level
Did Burma have good infrastructure irl?
I think itās meant for ahistorical worlds tbh
Ones where the allies either donāt exist or are nerfed
u can only core southern afg for no reason
Alright I'm back, I'll get screenshots for ya Chak
it had a lot more ports then 0 and yes it cerainly had better infra then mongolian desert
a state with 2 million people should have more then 0 infra lol
@pseudo wing
So you see here it says "We will use private investors lobby parliament that the only way forward...", this is one of the examples I wanted to point out; to me it doesn't really make much sense in the wording and feels like there's smth missing
u still lose turkish military support with asmullah, which makes no sense at all
Just looking at the code, I think the Persian Empire formable still doesn't give you all your cores
They got the one formable at least though
Well, it's only operation Head
delhi still only has 600k people
That looks like a job for operation shoulders at least
Maybe even knees
Not toes though
wtf do you mean thats a job for before release
You did read the dev post saying they acknowledged they messed up with this DLC right :l
not checking simple stuff like this is just unacceptable nowadays
well yes but simple stuff like this should have been fixed by now
literally all old formables in the region are broken rn
Nah, they just walk
Hindsight 20/20, I know; they've got a lot more than what you pointed out to fix though, and they WILL get to it eventually, just be patient bro
My guy there are alr multiple patches made by single modders that address all these issues, its outright emberassing that their team took a week to only address a minor amount of the bugs
And these modders have the free time and dedication to focus solely on this one topic of patching lmao, I'm not gonna defend GoE as even I know it's not what anybody wanted at the end of the day, but I'm pretty sure Paradox has a lot more to do than just patching the bugs out of one DLC
Its their god damn jobs , high school students and whoever else mods dont have like 8h a day for their "work". And i hope you realize that pdx has a team that only focuses on hoi4.
Yes, HOI4 is a game, GoE is a DLC
I don't see us reaching an agreement with our debate, so I'll settle on agreeing to disagree and leave it there because I'm too lazy to continue
Someone said something about it earlier, but the population of Delhi was between 550,000~700,000 by 1941-ish (census data is hard to find)
I get your frustration but doesnāt really act constructively towards anything. Kinda just gets emotions out.
So the state containing it having a population of 600,000 is accurate enough
Cyb, I may feel similar. But conveying these emotions in this way is a little much. Please reflect and ask yourself if this topic is worth that energy and if it helps the game, community or paradox
How DO you more reliably report bugs?
There are still about 6 million missing population in Burma, which does hurt Burma's ability to participate in the war effort
Forums are the best way. Post it in a few areas for max exposure
Iāve had luck on the forum
GRAVEYARD OF GREEDY COMPANY PARADOX EMPIRES
fix the population! irl its a few thousand not thisš
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Heya, just saw this, and just to let you know, a fix was made for this but didn't make it into this patch š it will be in a future patch!
I hope the missing ports for Burma, Syria and Jordan will be also included. Please!
Nothing that I know of I'm afraid, but I'm not all knowledgeable. If it is a bug, like said above, please report this on the forum, it makes it sooooo much easier if we get reports in the same place š
Yeah, I'll get to it at some point
I'm very lazy when I need to make new accounts to something
More passwords to remember? Gross
Could I ask a little bit abt using the forum actually? I gotta get set up on it as well
Ask away, can't guarantee I'll know the answers but I'll try (I am not one of our forum and social media savvy overlords, I am but a humble designer)
Can Iraq caliphate get cores on Iran and Afghanistan seeing as they are Muslim countries instead of Spain. Also attack bonuses
Cool appreciate it bro
So the main thing I'm wondering abt is where I'd go on the forum to discuss bugs and such, because I wanted to ask about some of the focus descriptions as I feel they might be missing a few things (I.e. Lobby Parliament's focus desc on the EIC path)
there's a dedicated section for bug reports, a dedicated suggestions area nd more
Ahh cool I think I found it
Would discussing the focus descriptions go in suggestions then?
Im gunna go wild
for your previous comment, I'd say bug report, since it seems like the text file is incorrect
(the one you tagged me in)
bet, let me go get that one done
Appreciate the help y'all, I don't use forums very often
Look! we summoned a mighty person with more knowledge on the forums than me š thanks Chak! but yes, bug reports for bug reports (stuff not working or working in strange ways), suggestions more like "wouldn't it be cool if?"
Every time I use the forums to report a bug, it is a duplicate
Because I couldn't find the original
Would the summary go something like "GoE Focus Descriptions Feel Unfinished/Incorrect?" I ain't the best at wording
I don't want to use it, because it doesn't feel like I'd actually accomplish anything other than add to a constant stream of unhelpful bug reports
Anyone else notice Nehru is whiter than hitler
May I introduce you to steam discussions
Yeah, the bugs section is expansive, and, sometimes the same bug might cause different issues. So though the symptom you are seeing might be different, it might still be the same root problem if that makes sense š
Eh, I'll pass on the forums and hope it all works out
If not, I'll just mod the game to suit me
No, I just failed to see the literal same bug. Though mine was technically 2 bugs in one as India can be set to 3 fascist paths that look identical
But hey, might be intended
Via gamerules
I just lumped it all under India gamerules broken
But prioritized the historical India can't allow achievements
Thx for the fix btw
the Reichskommissariats? Yeah, sorry it didn't get in this time, but we are working hard to get as many good fixes out there for you!
Alright, I went and made a post about the focus descriptions in the forum now! Hopefully I formatted everything right and gave the relevant info :D
You guys actually listened about the wooden stock for the Belgian Fn Fal, was nice
No, India has 3 fascist paths for gamerules.
There, increased pixel count
Literally same description
Go go gadget pixel increaser!
Why have 1 fascist path when you can have 3 with the same description!
We do listen most of the time, it isn't guaranteed we can always act on it, but we do listen š
This was reported right?
Yes, just labeled duplicate because I prioritized historical India not having achievements
You know, Iām feeling a little special today, letās try facism
Thatās 100% a virus

Is this bout to be a new shitpost or smth
Idk, I saw it and thought it would be funny to screenshot
Saving that
Yeah, bro was making stuff up with 0 evidence
Okay so I am weak and clicked the link to check š I think this is just what I explained earlier, you see the symptom which is three fascist strategies appearing, but the bug exists under a different name to us (in this case we have a bug open regarding legacy ai strategy plans which covers this). So it looks like we're just saying "duplicate" without there being a duplicate, but there is and we are aware š
Thanks for coming to my TED talk! Dunno if that made sense at all, but rest assured, we have eyes on the bug š
Best AI Livonia i've ever seen
Kurdistan cant form arabia anymore but core it
Tried communist India yesterday and the one advisor who gives weekly stability didnāt appear. May be a bug, should I post or is it on the radar?
Made sense to me at least
I'm grateful that y'all on the team are around and actively chatting to us here too!
Onto the forums, report it, it might be known, it might not, we'll know later š
Will do thanks!
It's generally fun to chat with you folks when we have time š
Yeah man, and it's something I personally appreciate because it helps me to understand what's happening on your end too; Paradox be feeling like less of a stranger now
This is gonna be the new Shyy hoi topic gif
Can we get a silk roads empire secret event ?
Like if you take the required states just get prompt to either become the empire or respect Chinese interests
I still want a mod where every country except the Chinese ones can form the Silk Road EMpire
So which countries are playable now after the patch
Is it a mod?
no, vanilla
Wow, thanks for information
"United Kingdom: Puppets breaking away from the UK when it goes fascist/communist should now function correctly"
I KNEW IT
OMG
Fascist UK back on the menu girls
U can still full annex them with the fascist civil war though
I have a concern about it
so, thing is
when you puppet the reichskommisariants
they still benefit the germany in trade cost
Can it be like modified into something that would actually benefit their new overlord?
Hell yeah
how do i get year 2000+?
Shouldnāt Hagia Sophia apply to Byzantine Empire as well? I mean the Byzantines are even mentioned in the description
Play as Switzerland. 4 times speed. Unpause. Get up. Come back at the end of the week.
So, how is the game with the latest patch?
is there a reason why mughal empire can't peace out with the allies during the 2nd Mughal-Raj war?
Will provinces get updated in patches for GOE?
Ye if ur playing Mughal empire, i suggest playing non historical
is that intentional? I glanced over the forums and found nothing:/
2nd Mughal raj is for uniting the subcontinent right?
yes, after the first uprising
Ofc as u attacked the raj right?
yes, i assumed it would include a white peace option with the allies as at most you would own a part of north india
Ah itās intentional
There is no white peace in the second one
N u r end up in a till the death war
Thatās the worst part in the Mughal empire path
Wow that sucks, I guess that path is for more seasoned players but like idk why youāre expected as north india to capitulate all of the allies, especially with the british ai rework
So u better play on non historical
Like if uk goes monarchist or communist
They wonāt join the first uprising war
And u can annex the whole raj
U can get media Mughal achievement easier that way
Yeah all my recent games have been non-historical because of the ai rework, i find it a lot easier to actually invade them on non-historical, the ai seems a lot less aggressive against naval invasion
i saw someone saying it was bugged but who knows
Nah I just got it days ago
Apparently u need to be Mughal empire, which requires u to own the whole raj
Not the sultanate
Anyways I want to share a strat for the achievement of puppeting the uk and having Churchill as its leader as India
I was wondering on how to do that
is nuclear ghandi just researching nukes?
Then u guarantee Philippines
No there is a secret path
Well u donāt need that path specifically
But it makes things easier as the buffs it gives
And u go spam out 100 1 width divisions and convert them to a template which is full of infantry to fill up the man power requirements
N save 200 political power after independence
Then when Japan declares on the Philippines u can join war and join the Chinese united front
Immediately take over the Chinese faction and invite USA
U then justify a war goal on France and Portugal for retaking cores
Declare on Portugal and they should join the Japanese faction
Naval invading Japan should be easy as u have USA to help u
Then in the peace conference u puppet Portugal as a landing ground and take the Japanese navy
Then just naval invade uk from the war goal of France
this is actually a super solid strat, i was just gonna go non-historical india and cross my fingers but this sounds super good
But make sure to turn off the trials of allegiance dlc
As CHILE CAN RUIN UR GAME BY PROACTIVE DEFENCE AND U END UP IN WAR WITH AXIS
i have 91% achievements and these new ones had me scratching my head for coming up with strats to be honest, these new trees didnāt seem strong enough to get the achievements
every game that iāve had ruined by a south American country has been Chile
Ye that sucks
I think u need at least 1 M manpower on field and 50-60 factories to take over Chinese united front
N itās hard to avoid famine from burma
As Siam will join and attack it
i think the only hard part would be the factories for india but with some good timing with focuses it seems super possible
the new patch made to where burma wouldnāt cause the famine
U can start by building civs in high infrastructure areas
And the end of the tree of the democratic gives. Quite the industry
Wait what
Motherfuc
I just did this yesterday
they kept the one where you canāt lose a core state without regaining it in 30 days
O
fortunately i havenāt dealt with the famine
U can refer to videos of getting mad ghandi for quick independence and the secret path
You were right non-historical was the move
Ye
Is India supposed to change colors if it forms the Timurids/Mughals?
Because it didnāt for me
Also, if you impact agrarian prior to the civil war, Indiaās just shows up as blank so they effectively have no debuff
Bugyard of empiresš
It is really a shame to see all this veneration for iran in the āgraveyard of empiresā dlc. If we looked at actual history we will see that iran got annexed in 6 days in ww2,1941.
We can bring back the Tsar and make USA go communist
We arenāt historically accurate
Itās a video game
Thats not my point bruh
If you wanna make a hollywood dlc then better to do that for all countries
Til i see that
Annexed? Weren't they just puppeted with a lot of land occupied?
At least In historical be historical not un
Wait 1 month
Oh Iām sure itāll be fixed, just want to bring attention to it since it was in the last patch
Morning
Maybe maybe next week
yes i was so happy
i reported that bug twice :)
Finally got all iraq achievements
Anglo-soviet invasion, google it
It was an operation to secure oil fields supply to ussr
Iran showed what seemed to be āgreat cooperationā (at least from uk view) to the germans
Thats why they invaded iran and annexed in just 6 days
They sure did blitzkreig Iran
Yeah
They threw Reza Pahlavi out and placed his son on the throne
There is no oil in Tabriz is there ?
I knew they invaded, I just didn't think they were full annexed
Oh, I was right
kinda? I mean, they were more just occupied until the war ended, and the soviets (nor the british cuz oil) didn't really wanna withdraw
honestly the Soviets got the terrible part of the deal
so even if they secured northern iran it would've been an Afghanistan situation probably
They did after ww2 im pretty sure the british im talking about
They fixed it and broke it now all middle eastern states can be cored but not Cairo and northern Afghanistan
Interesting how you can get a democratic bangladeshi leader to lead the mughal empire
Haha š
Hoi4 is honestly pretty bad at that kind of stuff tbh
There is
not in the game for some reason
isnt there only a refinery there?
Ive not looked too in depth but it seems like to this day the north doesnt have (m)any fields in use
Cuz the Iranians were gonna cede northern oil rights to the USSR but it just seems like thatd be pointless
Afaik they didnt have oil rights beause Iran didnt ratify that agreement

The puppet states also probably existed to potentially be merged with the Azerbijan SSR
this
Soviet Union tried to bank on the rising Azerbaijani and Kurdish resistance movements against Pahlavi regime and gain additional foothold in the region.
Iran Crisis of 1945-1946 was also one of the first crises of the Cold War
Is Persian empire playable rn?
Not sure, tried the communist path yesterday and it was mostly playable. Got very laggy late game but thatās because the whole world was at war
How was the experience
Sorry, meant I actually went the Islamic path, forming the Islamic state. I got Afghanistan in my faction, Annexed Yemen and UK handed over their Middleastern possessions. But then Iraq went to war with me which was in the Allies so I died
Was fun until it wasnāt
I feel they need to make that Iraq cauld get the power to make resistance in arab colonial countries and then get them it's imposed to form arabia you can't fight axis ally together you don't have large army
Yeah they get like 24-48 divisions max unless you core a lot
Ohhhhh so you formed axis of resistance
And the Allieās always send like 1-2 million to fight you
Nope, Islamic Brotherhood
I was like the Islamic State of Iran or something
Islamic republic of Iran?
Quality of 4 line art with rocket support
I forget
I think
Yeah have to focus quality
You democratic when you do islamic iran?
So far, I liked the Arab federation path the most as Iraq
I think itās non aligned
Oh
Goes to Democratic then becomes non aligned
Firstly go hasemite arab federation and them golden square
You get +15% attack and defense buffs though which is very strong
And you do the democratic branch
Similar to Carlist Spain
The Iraqi military tree is peak
Yeah goes from Pahlavi or whatever his name is, to a democracy, then to a non aligned Islamic dictatorship
I meant as Islamic Iran
You get influence in middle east there
Ohh
Itās a pretty strong tree
Itās intended to be you spreading Islam throughout the middleast. So you kinda stand alone, but the 15% attack and defense buffs are very strong
I prefer Iraq tbh
Sounds cool
The location is just better
Iād give it a try. Itās like a hybrid of dictatorship and democracy.
That's good
The Iraq mountain artillery buff
Cause this you need to invest strong artillery division
Tbh, it would be an amazing tree if it had a formable or the ability to core the middleast. BUT, it does get compliance growth buffs
For sure
You get like 0.02 compliance daily. Which doesnāt sound like a lot, but thatās basically double the compliance growth speed
So while you donāt core, can get high compliance easily
Good too
Plus Iran has like 13.5 mil people so itās not too bad manpower wise
Iraq lowkey has the best military buffs imo
Better than most European minor
Exactly
Mhm, only thing middleast lacks is steel
Definitely
Yss
Can get steel if you secure North Africa though.
But oil and trugen
Mhm
Did you know thereās a path where you go Allies and can invade territory as Iran?
No
I want to try that
How
You join allies and basically can get Middleastern lands for free
Itās between the communist and fascist paths
It even cores the lands you get
Itās Iran, if you go democracy instead of Islamic
At the end of the tree, you can start making demands
Islamic open you tree for itself?
I think you core like Iraq and another area?
Itās near it.
Wait i open the game
Like go Islamic and be alone, or go democracy and go allies
You can demand as the islamic?
As Islamic, you can demand the British and French occupied territories in the middleast
In my game England actually said yes
As Democratic, I think you invade them and the allies let you take it
Youāll have to look
Yeah and the right is democratic allies
That rlly doesnt do anything sadly. I really thought this would give u a secret path or smth
Still it's something
This description isn't accurate, Iranian Azerbaijan had never been controlled by an Azeri nation-state at game start
In fact unless you include the brief attempt by the Soviets to establish a puppet state there, it never has. The Republic of Azerbaijan was created in 1918 from the ethnic Azeri Turkish regions in the former Russian Empire, not Iran
Nope u are wrong , persia definitely owned parts of azerbaijan. They just lost it to russia in the russo persian war.
And in fact the region of azerbaijan (of persia or other empires) used to have some small states right below modern azerbaijan in iran
Yes
Beautiful
Yeah but the descrption says those regions were ruled by Azeri Turks
"Iran encompasses some territory that once used to belong to the Azerbaijani people"
Besides the fact that Turkish speakers in Iran are called "Azeris" not "Azerbajiani" (which is a citizen of their northern neighbor) it's just a historical falsehood, there was no Azeri nation state before 1918
Even the name Azeri wasn't used north of the Aras river before then, Iranian Turks called themselves Azeris, their northern co-ethnics called themselves Tatars or Moslems
yes, multiple times even before the patch . And pdx has seen it, but ig since they are crazy lazy they havent fixed it
is teh azad hind path civil war even possible without major cheese?
i think the implication is "they were there first" rather than "they had a nation state"
They weren't even there first
They were Persians who adopted the Turkish language after the Oghuz Turks moved west into Northern Iran and Anatolia
Turks weren't the indigenous people, the original inhabitants were Caucasian Albanians - not related to the other Albanians, we just don't know their real name - and Iranic peoples
They mentioned there were a number of bugs that are already fixed internally that didn't make it into the last patch
The Kommissariat cores were one of them
Does anyone know why I have no 3D units I only see the name plates and the 3D units setting is on
suggestion to make line artillery more useful: add tactics which require having a certain amount of artillery in the divisions in order to have a chance of being selected
Nerf infantry soft attack, buff artillery defense and breakthrough would probably make it more useful
I disagree
The problem isn't that they are underpowered compared to infantry
Well, the tactic thing is good too
It's that they're underpowered compared to tanks
Well, the problem is inf is too good by itself
Why have 2 arty when 3 inf provides better stats overall for the same combat width usage
Well sure
But also why have two arty when you can get the same and better stats with 3 tanks for the same cost
Well, tanks are pricier, right?
Not if you just want to get soft attack and nothing else
It is like a poor man's breakthrough battalion?
You can make em cheaper than arty
But having soft attack
Basically arty is really inefficient
Yeah I'm sure they can think of something creative
A few different ones maybe based on irl artillery tactics
Kinda like they have with the tank ones
Could be
Can't attack if you are constantly getting shelled
Maybe reduce damage on both sides substantially, reduce movement for enemy
Sounds kinda similar to delay though
So maybe not
I don't know tactics well
I know there are some new urban ones
Artillery on cities would probably give + attacker damage but also + defender damage because the rubble can be fortified
Maybe even cause collateral damage to buildings
If artillery could destroy factories in states, that would be wacky
I mean combat does already destroy stuff, wouldn't be too hard to make an arty tactic destroy a bit more
Super heavy arty already damages forts and such I believe
It does
So maybe increase super heavy and add a little to regular
I meant a specific tactic for arty and only in cities
Not like a every combat sort of thing
Ah, I see
Hashemite Iraq is actually pretty fun. Can get something like 80-85 mil core manpower. Lowkey wish it got the other cores Al Andalus gets to the east but had a fun game
You need to fight axis&ally
I just aligned with one and was still able to get 50 mil. Then I just betrayed them later
This has a lot of potential i know don't like the Arab federation that unplayable currently i know that the calida focus brings a lot of cores
Califa
This is a better version of the Arab federation
Wait for April when the content gets changed to make some things (presumably) easier.
"add a navy"?
Because they didn't start with one in real life lol
irans focus trees depend entirely on you conquering iraq but you cant because they are permanently guaranteed by the UK which you cant beat because you are too weak because you cant invade iraq!
hmm i did nnot have that problem iran is pretty strong
They had like 4 gunboats and a single patrol vessel
None of which are big enough to count as a ship in hoi4
Destroyer is smallest you get
And that's like 10000 tons on the lower end
Yes
Just checked, their biggest ones were like 1000 tons
So way too small
Interestingly sunk by another similarly sized ship of the Australian navy
If Canada is ever updated we need a technocrat path
They were actually crazy but they will seem more reasonable than any of the current HOI4 paths
Suggestion: you should be able to outsource warship construction to other countries (maybe for civilian factories, like with the international market?)
IRL many countries did this, especially smaller ones which did not have the capability to build ships themselves
usa canadian rework š¤
I'm sure this has been put out there, but everything that says "Afghan" should be German (and "Germany Support Arrives" should just be German Support Arrives)
make st pierre a french core
should just make a whole dlc for st pierre and miquelon
And a basque one
better to report on the forums
They should compress the british raj focus tree bruh
Real reason no one uses navy
Goddam navy tree on the other side of the tree
Also they barely have an industry tree
But ig political tree got some
Hey, I'm having a problem with the Turkish AI. Whenever I set it to the Ottoman Empire, the AI āāignores it and seemingly picks something randomly. I've checked all my mods and haven't found anything. Could it be the GoE DLC?
when is hearts of iron finally gonna add more possibilities to force surrender on the allies. Like why in God's name would the US be the sole country fighting the axis after the UK has capitulated
Or why would the UK fight Iran when it has fully taken egypt and the entire middle east
Jesus lord
maybe demanding immediate surrender is a little too much, so maybe make it so that Iran needs to hold all the tiles for 6 months in a row, forcing british surrender where iran keeps all middle eastern territories or something
or just rework the peace deals in general
Similarly, why would Britain give up its homeland and empire to Iran because Iran took egypt
I agree white peaces should be more of a thing, and should not have to rely on scripted events
But surrender is way too much for that
it make sense for britain to give up when it is in a world war with germany and italy when iran hold all their Indian and middle eastern allies for 6 months
No, it doesn't. Especially if it's in a world war. But what really doesn't make sense is for them to capitulate when you haven't even landed in the British isles
Irl they fought for 6 years btw, not 6 months
if iran isn't in the axis it kind of does, maybe they can make it so that a certain amount of british casualties by iran needs to be met
or make iran have to hold the land for 12 months even
To white peace, sure. To capitulate them? Ridiculous
with basically all their colonies standing
apart from parts of egypt
They lost like all of east Asia
And of course all their European allies
im refering to the western and african ones
they came very close to losing Egypt. I guarantee you they wouldn't have capitulated because of that. That is ridiculous
also, japan was diplomatically more aligned with germany then the Iran i'm talking about now (non axis, only at war with britain and no real connections with the axis, including japan)
THAT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT A CAPITULATION
once again, in this scenario i talked about losing ALL of india, iraq, palestine and parts of egypt up to the suez
Do you know what a capitulation is
So what
india was literally the most precious colony
im refering to ending a war, thats different to capitalution
They almost lost India to Japan, and plans for independence were in progress since 1920s
You said "surrender"
That is very different
To a white peace
you know what i was refering to obviously
Y'all are playing different games with this debate lmao
White peace i agree, as i said MULTIPLE TIMES
well i think i clarified it now
oke good
then were arguing about nothing really
Like did you not even read what I wrote
I wrote like 3 times that i agreed with white peace
But not capitulation or surrender
what do you specifcally mean by white peace
War ends, with everyone keeping what they have at that point, or maybe to an agreed compromise (like if you control most of Egypt you get that, if they control most of Libya they get that), idk. Finland has one with USSR for example
Capitulation you get a peace deal and can take their cores
I'm fairly certain a white peace is meant to be where the borders go back to pre-war and nothing changes?
ok i agree
were on the same page
yeah
thats what i thought too
thats why i asked him what he meant specifcally
Yeah, so white peace ain't the correct term, it's more like a conditional surrender or smth then, or just a scripted peace deal if we're talking gameplay
hence i said surrender
surrender isnt necesarrily capitulation
It isn't always, for example there is one in the India path where you can get extra land
Um it kinda is
There's not much differentiation when it comes to HOI4 so you would've been better off elaborating
It isn't like an armistice
We're thinking like armistice
As opposed to surrender
Which would be peace deal
sure
You literally have "surrender progress" in hoi4
Yeah the Mughal Path you get the scripted peace deal, but deadass I did a google and white peace is just a peace deal that returns to the pre-war situation
well you know what i mean
Armistice is like a truce put in place while a permanent peace deal is discussed methinks
Not fix but revise yes
also stop bordergore peacedeals
Kk
They tried to, but it sorta failed. Wish AI didnāt super fight over specific states too. Itās annoying when therāll be like 1,000 war score and 10 back and forth a over a single state
And the state will be like some remote and Garbo place
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Reading this makes me wonder if they'll possibly add like a state priority to the AI in peace deals in the future?
They already kinda do with war goals
In theory yes, but considering the AI fights you for a "remote and garbo place" I don't think it works in practice yanno?
It also sucks that you cant annex a state you are occupying if you have 0-1% war participation. Like yes i have low war participation BUT my armies are there, therefore i should have a say in it
The realistic thing is to wage several wars annexing more of that country each time until it is fully annexed. /j
Very historical
In the dlc update did they change any states or tiles
when did they try to?
Around NSB I believe
how did it fail, i didn't have the game when that released
Yes
Like what
Burma got balkanize and Luxembourg is now two states
Luxembourg carried this dlc ngl
Luxembourg is Peak
Im so tired of posting bugs and suggestions in the forum
It will never be looked at
Shouldve made belgian luxembourg province
When we as the community become an unpaid QA team
They do look at many. Though itās another thing if they get worked on or not
DLC after it basically competed with the system they set up. While it wasnāt perfect, peace deals did seem cleaner. But since, many countries have had their priorities changed to match newer DLCās. As a result, the system that was in place has become muddled and basically back to where it was
April is when the most substantial change will be.
That would be nice
Just going off of the claim made in it about āchanges to GOE content.ā
just had a crazy plushie idea
Just removes more content š
Itās not a platypus though
Heresy
At some point the characters for Afghanistan are getting looked at.
Thereās a ton of afghan leaders no?
What is it
I tried to buy the shah
Kookaburra
But it sold out
what
But dressed in Polynesian garb
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I was gonna get on for shyy but it sold out
it... cant be sold out
King Kookooburrameha
its a made to order campaign, unless you mean you were gonna get one after the campaign ended, then ofc you cant
that doesnt make sense at all
because there isnt a way for it to be 'sold out' until the campaign ends
I am 100% confident I couldnāt buy it then lol
Nope, illegal, burned at the stake
Btw the reason they do platypuses is because the Paradox logo is a platypus skeleton
I'd say try again, but the only reason I could think that it'd not be working is that their website went down or something
because to my knowledge it has never said that within a campaign time
I will try again when I get home
aint no way paradox is still trying to sell us things after the recent events
Dear paradox, I am once again begging you to do updates to the focus trees of commonwealth nations, as well as Romania and Yugoslavia. Especially fixing the IK-3 focus which is by far one of the worst debuffs to any nation's air trees I have ever seen.
be paradox
Announce Half of all proceeds go to XYZ Charity.
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(File idea away for later⦠Democracy Duck)
Why that bird?
Pretty sure it was on sale prior to the DLC
i see
really hope this fix it lol
They should just atleast really set it in stone for historical. Ahistorical is whatever, but Iād like historical to be accurate
Which the Yalta conference sorta does
What about President Platypus
Critical hits in navy are so dumb
You can have a cruiser with 5 batteries, which gives you a much higher chance of one of them being hit (fair enough) - but when one is knocked out, it reduces your attack by half! So you lose 2.5 turrets!
On the other hand, a cruiser with a single battery will only lose 0.5 turrets from the same critical hit, and have a much lower chance of getting it
Admittedly this does incentivise building more varied ships, but it makes no sense whatsoever (the crit is just a battery is knocked out).
The crit should remove the portion of the attack contributed by the turret and no more or less.
A module based system would be cool
Theoretically having more batteries should mean a higher chance of getting a magazine detonation as more of the ship is allocated for ammunition storage
It is already based on modules, kinda. the modules determine what critical hits and what chance.
Yeah true
Well, like a module is disabled
You got hit, congrats, you lost number 1 and 3 batteries
yeah rather than a debuff to the ship's overall stats
atm it's you lose 50% light attack for hit to main battery (regardless of how many you have) and 25% from the secondaries (regardless of how many you have or how much light attack they contribute)
Engine damaged, you are now slower
ok that one does exist i think
Yeah. But what I am saying is that modules themselves are damaged
That might make battles heavily laggy due to all the calculations actually
yeah here you go
well i don't see how that changes anything in this case
You have 5 batteries
there is only one engine module anyway
You get shot
yes but i mean for the engines
2 batteries disabled
batteries i agree totally
Oh the engine? It effects repair cost or something
engines i feel like it's fine
Probably already does
crits don't affect repair cost but you probably have taken quite some damage if you have a crit
Fire control gets damaged, minus hit chance
yeah so true
Radar gets disabled, ship cannot contribute to spotting
Sonar disabled, minus sub detection
this dude has so many great ideas
Make it based on modules and it would be neat
You can choose what ships need priority when repairing
So if you need to contest, you can pick the guy who has no sonar in a bad situation to head out
WHY CAN A SUB WITH 10 TORPEDOES SINK 200 SCREENS AND CAPITALS IN A SINGLE BATTLE
you can already
Well, you don't pick the guy who is at 1% strength or has heavy fires
But more choice in dealing with bad situations
japan probably coming first i would say
Man the Guns 2: Naval Boogaloo
The original naval rework came with the US tree
Got rid of the Pearl Harbor gambit focus
and UK no?
yeah
People just hate the navy
i love it but WHY SO BUGGY
GO OUT TO JOIN THE BATTLE WHEN I PUT YOU ON STRIKE FORCE
ENGAGE WHEN ON THE SAME TILE
Meanwhile the M3 Lee being a meta* tank
Tiles are many miles across
yes but in theory fleets engage when on the same tile
Poor communication means they show up in the wrong spot
also fleets can engage from miles away
i'm saying the game says they engage on the same tile
but sometimes they just don't
I know. But I say it is larp for bad communication
right
but like i have a battle going on and my fleet will just sit in the same tile as the battle waiting for like a week until the battle ends
WHY DON'T THEY JUST JOIN
Yeah, that is dumb
IT WORKS FOR THE YOUTUBERS
I've had that happen before
it happens like 1/2 the time for me
Well they do patrols and enter the battle
not an ongoing battle
can't join that with patrols it seems
They send them to a battle, have them only do patrol in that sea zone, and then they enter the battle
nope
i have done that
does not work
Oof
and i have seen youtubers do it they do not do that, they just put on hold and move into the tile
i'm sure some do
but not the ones i saw
Always engage, do not retreat
Advisors are characters. There is a thread on the forums about advisors for Afghanistan. In the thread about the roadmap they responded to a comment about the advisor thread saying. They had seen it. Would not surprise me if a few more generals were added to Afghanistan too. So, when I say the characters are getting looked at, I mean advisors and hopefully generals.
@polar jasper hallow
Ah just like additional ones, makes sense
The Indian Fascist path kinda sucks. Like you inevitably just go to the war with the allies and get crushed. Sometimes I donāt want to fight the allies and just want a normal civil war. Plus the UK always drags you into some war before you can even spark the civil war š
Basically canāt even go the Fascist path because it just gets crushed instantly. Is this as intended? Trial of Allegiance was actually fun to play countries and different ideologies. I feel like I get punished in GOE for doing the same :/
Hi
Changes to content is in April.
Based ?
Well tbf trial of allegiance is fun because you can actually expand without needing to fight a colonial major
And even the most powerful countries can be taken down easy early game
Agreed
why is there no focus or decision to annex the indian puppets when you go for mughal path???
bruh
Nope
Oman and Iraq used to be free to invade, yet they changed that. Itās like they made the region even harder to expand into. Should atleast be able to demand UK/French territories in most trees.
Every other country pack had much more room for expansion
how do you get custom role?
Do you think that this will be part of the changes?
seriously, how do you get a custom role?
Go to the Channels and Roles channel
thank you!
Change what? Oman and Iraq being tied to the allies?
Or demanding imperial territories
Making expansion easier, yeah.
Hopefully. Having to fight the Allies or Comintern really sucks.
True
They should make the guarantee like the Monroe doctrine for American countries
yoooo border gore is back with the new dlc š£ļø š„ š„ š„
Now that is art
This is what Turks picture the Treaty of Sevres was like probably
Isnt that already in the game
Already exists
How so?
its a national spirit for all the countries in the americas
it used to be a guarentee
now its an event
I was referring to the Anglo Iraq treaty
Ahhh should have specified i thought you were talking about a seperate thing
I figure the patch today will be released same time as last week?
