latest-updates

[harsh hull]

Kuwait is called "Sheikhdom of Kuwait" across all ideologies

So you know, could be better

[nimble torrent]

i hate the fact i agree with you
the south america dlc was better

[south monolith]

why

also how can I even do this focus guys xd

[harsh hull]

Dang, actually huge buff for Siam

[tacit sequoia]

gotta wait till 1939

[south monolith]

oh okk

[south monolith]

i have no idea what just happened xD

[harsh hull]

A distinct lack of Arab fragmentation statuses in the game options menu

But man, look at all these tags now

Also, I do believe they've adjusted the size of Burgenland somewhat

Right, I'm going to let the AI play on non-historical for a while, see what they get up to

[south monolith]

best part of the new dlc is the new province in luxembourg imo

[wraith finch]

I’m sure people have asked but is there a list for the states needed for the Cyrus the great achievement anywhere. Google has not helped

[drifting star]

Why does so many of the trees have ToDo on it

That’s just not good

When you buy something you expect a finished product

[frank gulch]

TOA 2

[mossy tide]

TOA but the countries are severely underpowered

[frank gulch]

This is the first time ive disliked a DLC. maybe it will be better once the glaring bugs and oversights are fixed

[subtle spear]

I dont think its terrible, I liked that they kept the focuses fairly short instead of drowning them in filler focuses. I really appreciate the Afghan one its a little goofy but short and to the point and interlocks well. Iran & India suffer from the revive ancient empire A, B & C. - what honestly comes of as rubbish content. Iran focus tree has a lot of historical inaccuracies (more than it should). The new colony puppets for Britain and France are also poorly implement. like when Vichy takes over they dont get Syria like they should IRL (As a example). It also strange that they were even added, Syria is the only one that makes some sense to even add.

[frank gulch]

I think they had more planned with urban combat

But scrapped it

[mossy tide]

Scrapped it: the DLC

[digital pumice]

not even close imo

south america had some fun paths

that made some sense

aside from the meme paths

hopefully the next patches make it better

[frank gulch]

South america just didnt need a DLC imo

Id rather them improve the US and Japan

And china

The dominions

[digital pumice]

did paradox add a portrait for the grand mufti of jerusalem

he wont show up in my game

[tight blaze]

And they can core allat

Yet another path that can core the world for no reason

[fresh cedar]

Yet it was very fun

[fresh cedar]

What bugs have you run into?

[wraith finch]

So rushing the three spy focuses as Iran is wild

Have 6 seducers/infiltrators running around getting me +25PP every month

[frank gulch]

Barely played yet

Busy day

[fresh cedar]

Kind of rushed to have an opinion of something you barely interacted with, no?

[frank gulch]

Just going off what im seeing on the reddit

[harsh hull]

That's y'all's first mistake

Not waiting for the inevitable bugfix patch

That they do every DLC, because playtesting EVERYTHING is actually pretty hard

[fresh cedar]

I mean judging pre patch and solely off Reddit is wild 😂

I’d sooner write a masters thesis based off Wikipedia than rely on reddit for genuine opinions on anything

[rocky oasis]

I will be waiting for the patches. Hope they add some more generals to Afghanistan too.

[fresh cedar]

Same

India definitely seems to be the most fleshed out. Haven’t tried Afghanistan yet, but Iraq and Iran were decent. Didn’t get lucky at all and got invaded early as both

[drifting star]

Still waiting for my bahai global revolution

[fresh cedar]

Bahai Blast

[drifting star]

And turko Persian empire

[mossy tide]

Iran is fine until you enter at war

[fresh cedar]

It just has tough borders tbh

[mossy tide]

And a lot of 70 days focuses that do nothing

[fresh cedar]

Definitely a little bit of fairy dusting

Though I like its buffs and end goals overall

[mossy tide]

Me too, but at the end it does not feel rewarding at all

[fresh cedar]

Don’t you get cores on like the Persian empire?

[mossy tide]

Nuh uh

On some parts of it

[fresh cedar]

Cyrus the great thing doesn’t give a formable?

[mossy tide]

It didn't appear at the decision tab for me

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it may be a bug, considering The Persian Empire used to be a formable

[mossy tide]

It does not

[fresh cedar]

If I were them I’d seriously consider a formable

Like once you get the Cyrus thing, unlocks the old formable

[mossy tide]

Me too, it doesn't make sense to remove a formable for something objectively worse

[fresh cedar]

I find the new cores fine, but they should be stepping stones to the ultimate formable rather than the goals themselves

Would be such an easy fix lol

Annoyingly UK seems to just go historical every game now and invade no matter what

[long ruin]

Why does it say no supply on my capital?

[stable tusk]

Your supply capital is different than your normal capital sometimes, I know confusing
Build a railroad and you should be good

[long ruin]

build a railroad to where?

[cyan venture]

The new DLC out already?!!

[mossy mauve]

The golden square coup happens way too early

It’s ridiculous it happens in 1939 not 1941

[orchid pewter]

I'm quite upset that Byzantium does not benefit from Hagia Sophia's 5% stability. It's literally the country that built the monument, and since the devs remembered that Byzantium existed ||for the secret Iranian path||, I hoped they wouldn't miss this, but nope

[drifting star]

Everyone ask that the commented out focuses for afganistan get finished

They looked like they were cooking something

[tacit sequoia]

currently questioning why the paths are so weird looking

[mossy tide]

scrolling simulator

[tacit sequoia]

fr

[fresh cedar]

It does buff Greece wdym

[drifting star]

Poor optimization

[fresh cedar]

Legit does buff Greece lol

[fresh cedar]

India in particular could be squished

[tacit sequoia]

true

[native echo]

Where do you find the trees

Text files

[drifting star]

What we need is the turko-Persian empire

And the bahai global revolution

[waxen olive]

How do you get rid of agrarian society? Ive done all the focuses I can do

[polar jasper]

A bazillion political power in decisions

[native echo]

Commented out focuses for AFG:
Bahai Path
Turko-Persian Empire
Towards an Amanullah Caliphate
Hire Experts
Rally the Pashtuns/Tajiks
A new Emir
Enforce/Outlaw Pashtunwali
Call a Jirga
Kumul/Turkic rebellion path
Pashtun Khanate and Pashtun Caliphate
Waziristan independence
Multiple focuses to get “experts” and generals

Those were most of them

[grim talon]

iis india messed up in the new update for the communist tree

[drifting star]

This could have been so fire

[harsh hull]

Gang, I don't mean to alarm you

[grim talon]

i dont know if "is fully independent" is intentional on the commie tree

[drifting star]

I forgive them

[harsh hull]

Because I know some of you are allergic to things that are based

But BIG Luxembourg with TWO provinces

[grim talon]

ive completed the entire tree and im in 1942~ waiting for independence idk if im missing something or like

[drifting star]

Imma make a mod doing all this

[native echo]

Is it in Paradox’s nature to add DLC content later on?

[drifting star]

Idk

I’m new to paradox games

[native echo]

I’ll probably ask on forums tonight

[drifting star]

But all the todo notations makes me think they will eventually add it

[native echo]

Hopefully that’s the case, and not that they missed deadlines and decided to cut a ton of stuff

[orchid pewter]

It does not

What you are showing is the natural effect, you can see It in every landmark. What means If you have a modificar on the stability called "Hagia Sophia"

[drifting star]

I would love unique and new nations that are inspired by real events to just x empire from the past

[coral drift]

Arabia (the 1916 form) is a relatively recent thing, though, and much easier to form.
But as of 1.16.0 we still need to walk all the way to Marrakesh to form it.

[drifting star]

Yeah it should be tiered

Unifying the peninsula , expanding to Egypt , Arabizing Sudan and taking the Maghreb

[mossy tide]

It looks like it is not intentional

[grim talon]

yeah

1943

and forced to take all of these debuffs, lose half my land

lmao

[mossy tide]

Tbf you'll be better going communist with Chandra Bose

[grim talon]

lol

[terse viper]

yes dlc is rushed

[stable tusk]

Why does Khalistan have a claim on Bombay?
Like there can't be that many Sikhs there

[mental onyx]

Haven't played the DLC yet but the amount of bugs and broken things I have seen in the subreddit is making me scared.

[vocal bloom]

Silly Germany

[crude jolt]

I hate east India company’s color so much I made a mod changing it to the eu4 one

[fresh cedar]

Personally I suggest you play as the more who play and report bugs, the quicker the they may get fixed

[fresh cedar]

Gotta be a bug

[thick edge]

afghanitan, india, and iraq is not a good co-op idea

east india compnay

facist iraq

3rd persian empire

[frail trench]

well day 1 of the patch I can certainly say they need to update some things lol

[fresh cedar]

Altogether I do like the DLC. Think it’ll be really good after a patch or two.

[frail trench]

^^^^

I do enjoy what they have added it just feels a bit unfinished

gonna try Democratic India now

[hybrid herald]

East India Company

[frail trench]

lol

[hybrid herald]

The power of

[frail trench]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crypto-sale-bitcoin-penguin-gif-6178851281550307273

[hybrid herald]

Civmaxxing

EIC unironically has become my favorite

It’s just so absurd

And funny

[frail trench]

actually I'll try this a bit later and show progress

[limber frigate]

What’s free in the latest update (what will change for me without paying)

[steep nest]

[frail trench]

🍜

[steep nest]

Since it's a country pack, there is no new game changing mechanics

[limber frigate]

So my saves are gone for nothing

Great

[frail trench]

welcome to paradox

[limber frigate]

(Rolling back is too much work I can’t do it)

Oh well

[frail trench]

[steep nest]

Pretty much across the board

[harsh hull]

Paradox announces version update in Q1 2025

[long ruin]

Why is Tata steel in Bombay

literally unplayable

[harsh hull]

Announces in February that the next DLC will be released in early March

[long ruin]

It should be in Bihar

[harsh hull]

Release day arrives

"Why are all my saves dead?"

Every time

[mental onyx]

When will the patch to fix the bugs come out? In 1 week?

[hollow coral]

Disappointed that some princely states dont have portraits and pakistan, bangladesh and sri lanka dont have unique portraits

[frail trench]

someone will most likely come out with a gfx mod at some point

pretty sure Andrew Caldecott oversaw the administration in Ceylon during WWII

[hollow coral]

Thing is that they are randomly generated leaders so you cant put portraits over it.

And if you create leaders it will make it not achievement conpatible

[frail trench]

i see

[rotund sable]

its nothing fancy

just that persia can core all byzantine cores after conquering byzantium

[humble shell]

How is the iran tree from anyone who played it? i saw some negative reviews saying they are boring

[solid gyro]

Fun fact, the achievement regarding Sikh is broken. And shaken not stirred is still broken too. Why add achievements if they don’t work

[drifting star]

Same reason they added the Pashtun acendency, cuz they didn’t finish the other more interesting Pashtun caliphate path

[hearty blade]

Underwhelming

[drifting star]

And my sweet sweet Bahai global revolution

[hearty blade]

The shaken not stirred is broken too

[drifting star]

Oh how cool it could have been

[hearty blade]

And that achievement is as old as la resistance

[halcyon tundra]

what happened in the end with india and them being able to core china? did they remove that or no?

[elder fjord]

does iraq have any formables?

[lofty creek]

why didnt they make palestine 2 states 😩

now i have to raise my autonomy instead of civil war

[hearty blade]

They can core all of middle east apart from iran all of north africa and iberia

They can core without formable too

[dusky gorge]

Love having my war enemy have a civil war and then the one im not at war with is walking through my territory without mil access

[elder fjord]

so they can core iraq, palestine, saudi arabia, and wut else

[dusky gorge]

seems to be with a garrison order

[elder fjord]

just not iran right?

[hearty blade]

Syria jordan oman yemen

Egypt libya algeria morroco including west sahara

Portugal and spain too

And hatay

[elder fjord]

weird that u cant core iran

oh wells

[wise oxide]

where are the final full patch notes at??

[full ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[rotund sable]

to me it just seems like pdx's way of saying:

"hey look we tried so hard to produce this shitty thing to impress all of you"

"so where's your coffer for the next dlc?"

uncool

they used to try at least at copying good mods

now they don't even try anymore

[halcyon tundra]

"you see this 70 day focus for a civ is good actually"

[warped prairie]

Modders have been putting pdx to shame for years now. I just hope the next dlc is cooked longer.

[halcyon tundra]

playing iran rn and im a bit dissapointed

[tacit sequoia]

Tried doing nuclear ghandi path and idfk how to get it through lol

[full ermine]

"man i love doing nothing for an entire game year just to have 3 total infrastructure built" 😮

[rotund sable]

well compared to that focus in communist china

70 days for a name change

at least civ is something

yet more evidence that pdx is running out of steam

[halcyon tundra]

genuinely tho how is this worth 70 days

[rotund sable]

well recruitable is nice

maybe

and you get bragging rights "oh look at how much manpower i have"

as for how players feel when playing with this focus tree

why would you think pdx would have any idea

it's been so long since they last did actual playtesting

[warped prairie]

Oh I don't think they care to anymore, we pay to test it for them

[rotund sable]

exactly

[halcyon tundra]

imo it just seems that its really small in comparison to gotterdamerung

like the minimum they could do

[rotund sable]

well it is just a country pack after all

just not priced as one

[halcyon tundra]

still..

i feel like they couldve added more stuff for the army or industry

ive looked at the trees of the other nations and the army and industry branches look really small

iran included

[rotund sable]

or maybe this is what we should be expecting from now on

and gotterdammerung is just to sell the expansion pass

[warped prairie]

The size and quality of the dlcs vary a lot, pdx has two teams so I assume the team that made this dlc is the smaller one, similar to the south American dlc team

The one with like 19% reviews on steam

[halcyon tundra]

atp i play more modded than vanilla anyway

ill just buy the dlcs that add new mechanics from now on and ignore vanilla if it stays like this

its just dissapointing honestly i expected more since iraq and iran at least have a lot of rich history with iraq having mesopotamia and iran having persians and other empires i mightve forgot

[warped prairie]

I expected a lot more as well but these are minors so to be expected at this point

I just hope the next dlc is Asia rework, east India company with this new dlc outpaces and dunks on Japan super hard

[halcyon tundra]

i would play japan if they get a rework

300 hours in the game and i have never played japan lowkey

lol

[warped prairie]

Its fun but its focus tree is beyond outdated

[rotund sable]

^1200

ye japan focus is like ancient

[halcyon tundra]

asia doesnt really appeal to me that much

[rotund sable]

and you don't rly get the pleasure of big encirclements like you do playing germany or soviet

[halcyon tundra]

but i guess theres not much to do for europe except a few reworks for like maybe balkan countries

[cosmic bobcat]

what iranian path do you guys recommend? What is the most fun one?

[strange notch]

Alt+F4'ing the game

[cosmic bobcat]

you are probably right, but nah, I went for the ''third persian empire''

[lofty creek]

i found a way to play as israel or palestine and be free u gotta wait till 1939 tho

[solid gyro]

What is it

[lofty creek]

u need goe, start as iraq, do the heshemite thingy, and then in 1939 u can do the new caliph focus annexing ur puppets (u demanded palestine from the brits earlier) then, go to occupied territories and release urself as palestine or israel

[solid gyro]

I was gonna say u could be uk but then i realized its a puppet

[edgy walrus]

The East India Company can buy East Timor, but they cannot core it, because there are no resistance in the state due to lack of releasable nation here. The same happened with the Global Defense Council if they try to core it. That's why I was asking for years for East Timor as a releasable country...

[granite anchor]

im not liking the new dlc i do regret spending my money on the dlc honestly mods like rt56 and other mods that add content is way better than the dlc and the worst part is the mods are free

[thick edge]

I got it with the expansion pass so I’m not mad

Good deal

[granite anchor]

na im not disagreeing with that i just dont think the dlc is worth the price

i mean Gotterdammerung is still buggy as hell with the mefo bills bug

[quick sleet]

Same

[spare mesa]

Can you get the House of Kurds achievement for going with the Iraqi Kurdish path?

[hollow coral]

I dont think you can because you arent the kurdistan tag

Your still just iraq

[fresh cedar]

Kinda how I feel too

[fresh cedar]

So if Byzantium has all its cores that’s like over 100 mil manpower extra in core population. That’s OP

[fresh cedar]

TOA seemed to have more going on tbh

[nova olive]

when does azad hind gets white peace after civil war? it's august 1938 and there is no white peace.

[fresh cedar]

There’s a decision that says. It’s relative to when the civil war started

Think it was 180 days

Tried that path but got bogged down in Sinkiang

[nova olive]

that is too long, i think i am at 100 days.

[fresh cedar]

Enemy AI seemed hardcoded to not attack till the last 70 days or so. Indians may attack but I cheesed it

[fresh cedar]

Check your decision tab to the upper left

[nova olive]

there is nothing in decision tab that shows the time.

[fresh cedar]

Can you send a picture

[wise oxide]

I SURE HOPE I GET TO KEEP ALL THAT

[wise oxide]

i did not

[thick edge]

Peak comedy

[broken horizon]

Does Jordan and syria have a event so they can get a port or they wont have one ever?

[fresh cedar]

I genuinely thought you were doing the princely states path my bad

[fresh cedar]

How did you do that, in my game allies flooded in with 100 divisions?

[wise oxide]

i just exploited the gaps and snaked

[fresh cedar]

There was like 5 divisions on every tile in mine. And they naval invaded every 2 seconds

Was only 1936 😔

[wise oxide]

im on unhistorical tho

[fresh cedar]

Same

I’ve tried 5 games on this dlc so far and in every one UK goes historical and early invades the middleast/super intervenes in India

Feels like GDR when Germany went Reich every game so Austria was impossible

[nova olive]

Is there no white peace event for azad hind?

[fresh cedar]

Haven’t played idk

[nova olive]

I am reinstalling the game

[thick edge]

One of my freinds was playing Iraq when that happened

Those 5 Soviet volunteers saved bro

And he kept yelling ENDSIEG ENDSIEG ENDSIEG

[fresh cedar]

It’s wild, they just seem to invade Iraq and Iran no matter what. Like it’s inevitable

[thick edge]

My first game was alt hist

But I can imagine it would suck

[fresh cedar]

All of mine have been alt hist yet allies have existed in every one 😭

[thick edge]

Ironically

The UK went monarchist

And instead of joining the axis

Joined the commonwealth of nations

So joined the Canadian’s version of the allies

[fresh cedar]

They shouldn’t be able to, that faction exists to counter them lol

[safe plover]

WHERE TF IS OPERATION COUNTENANCE???

Do they even know what historical means??

[quick sleet]

Afghanistan is way better than i thought

[safe plover]

yeah u can do both the communist and democratic path coring pakistan and central asia lol

[quick sleet]

What i did

[safe plover]

The whitepeace doesnt even work

[quick sleet]

What

[safe plover]

pdx is just trolling us with these shit dlcs

[quick sleet]

What it must was be to

[safe plover]

its supposed to white peace iran with uk and u should get buffs or land from it

it only gave the war reperation spirit without peace

[fresh cedar]

What other DLC was shit?

GDR was top tier and TOA was much more fun than the Scandinavian DLC.

[safe plover]

sout america was also completely bugged

[quick sleet]

L

[fresh cedar]

No where near to the extent of this one. I played on release and had many games without any bugs

I’ve come across 2-4 bugs every play through with this one

I noticed YouTubers didn’t really upload videos before this DLC. Wonder if it had less playtesting? Ik it was still playtested

[proud basin]

expected much more from that secret path tbh

[thick edge]

What secret path

[safe plover]

what does absorb the byzantine empire do?

[thick edge]

Ohhh

[safe plover]

and how do u get it

[thick edge]

Cores on Byzantium

[thick edge]

Make Greece go Byzantium

[heavy yacht]

Greece needs to form Byzantium

[thick edge]

When they form

U get cores on the whole Byzantine empire

[proud basin]

its annoying cuz it relies on the ai being competent

[obtuse wren]

There is also a focus related to the EIC in the oil baron branch. But the focus has no icon and unknown effects.

[proud basin]

I get the ideas behind them but definitely not worth being secret because youll never see the byzantium one unless you use cheats or are playing mp with someone willing to play greece and the eic is just rng that ai will do that path and it might be pointless

also what does the opium trade do as eitc

[dull tundra]

YO THERES A SECRET PATH!

That’s sick!

[proud basin]

ye but you need the ai to form byzantium as greece before you get it

[dull tundra]

No way really?

[dull tundra]

Could be a fun multiplayer game

[fresh cedar]

Meh, potentially like 150 mil manpower extra, not bad

[proud basin]

ye but all it gives you is a war goal and an option to core them after so pretty useless

Its a cool idea just not useful at all

[dull tundra]

Ah I see

[dull tundra]

What are your thoughts on the dlc

[fresh cedar]

Coring them is pretty strong

Though will never happen bc Byzantine never comes about naturally

[proud basin]

I like it but defo needed some more polishing, ive only played iran and east india company

[dull tundra]

Yeah it feels like I needed a couple more weeks of polishing

[fresh cedar]

Should get Persian formable, not just cores from focus tree

[proud basin]

the only way is convinving someone to play greece which is about as unlikely as them showing up in a natural game

[fresh cedar]

What’s the other secret path? Can’t be Kurdistan bc it’s a normal one

Ik Nuclear Ghandi exists

[dull tundra]

Even though they’ve had like 6 MONTHS

[proud basin]

could be the oil baron eitc focus but it literally does nothing

[fresh cedar]

I don’t think so

Thought there was like an Islamic revolution path hidden

[dusk mist]

i haven't played it but it looks terrible

[terse viper]

I saw a list someone published of all the scrapped Afghanistan focuses and it was awesome

Too bad it didn't get included

[proud basin]

just hoping that we get a legendary irish focus tree with lots of effort put in when they rework britain

[waxen axle]

How tf im supposed to win civil war as commie afghanistan?

[wise oxide]

i got mutinies -75% attack and its broken cant fix rip my game and sanity

[waxen axle]

and f**king sultanate of al-hind attacks me at the same time

when im strugling with civil war

[polar jasper]

I actually was able to

You need that soviet aid and mountaineer focus

I don't know why another sultana attacked you

[waxen axle]

And f**king soviets refused to aid me

[polar jasper]

Ultra unfortunate

They were mostly useless in my game too

[waxen axle]

rng ass game

[polar jasper]

But the 4 troops were nice

(Literally did barely anything but starve)

You need the mountaineers and rush Kabul and exploit breakthroughs

[long ruin]

Nsb is four years old

Lmao

And still only 30 percent off

[tropic zenith]

do you see any resemblance? I don't think so

[fresh cedar]

Nuclear ghandi

[thick edge]

The left one has 1 more focus!

Game changing!

[dreamy remnant]

Chat shoud i buy bba or arms againt tyranny

[thick edge]

Bba

[tropic zenith]

it's not funny that paradox doesn't care about theirs dlc

they could do anything to make it not the same at least

[drifting star]

They gave more energy to nuclear ghandi than a somewhat interesting potential afgan caliphate path which lets all be honest would still g 1000% more based in realism than this

[terse viper]

Dlc is called is graveyard of empires
Dlc isn't mostly focused on Afghanistan ???

[harsh hull]

DLC is called Man the Guns
DLC doesn't have an infantry equipment designer

Like, what

[worn depot]

Yeah honestly Afghanistan doesn’t have that much of a focus tree

[stable tusk]

Hard to mostly focus on a neutral country tbf

[terse viper]

Maybe

But what about Switzerland tho..

[harsh hull]

Hey, what's the current version of the copypasta that includes all the DLC names?

[terse viper]

It was neutral but somehow got a bug focus tree

[harsh hull]

That's the biggest part of each DLC release, I feel

[stable tusk]

It wasn't the focus tho
Italy was the main focus of that DLC with Ethiopia coming in at second

Also why are all the new landmarks literally the same when it comes to bonuses

Like they all give +5% stability

[digital pumice]

this update is getting worse by the second

litterally unplayable

[thick edge]

Lmao

[drifting star]

They have seriously demonstrated that they don’t put any effort in the country packs how many times must we go down this path before we realize it will never change

[digital pumice]

not even kaiserredux can let you do this 🙏

[verbal wave]

what even is that bruh

[humble shell]

bbw

[drifting star]

Best way to do the Mughal empire

*?

[flint current]

Iran got goodies??

[humble shell]

I went through the tree its good, my citicism for now is that imperial and facing the giants path both have similar outcome in the end in a lot of the options

[flint current]

Iran ally U.S.S.R

[humble shell]

yeah when you choose the unhistorical shah tree u have access to that

[digital pumice]

you can core all of it btw

[humble shell]

but in return you will sacrifice army buff which you would get in historical tree

[flint current]

What armament Iran got?

[humble shell]

that idk

[flint current]

Shoot

I might come back to hoi

It’s been 4y what’s changed!

[humble shell]

But its not bad as some ppl say really, i would say average content atleast, much better than vanilla

[digital pumice]

you mean much better than nothing?

[humble shell]

yea lol

[digital pumice]

litterally everything is better than nothing

not the best way to determine whether something is good or not

[humble shell]

Its better than EA or ubisoft content atleast

in the current bull💩 gaming industry its passable

[flint current]

Honestly

Paradox is financially better than both of them

[digital pumice]

nah, you're paying 15 euros for some garbage

while mods do it 10 times better for free

[humble shell]

u mean rt56?

[digital pumice]

they couldn't even rectify the most simple mistakes before releasing it

shows you that it really was just a cash grab

[digital pumice]

rt56, kaiserredux...

[polar jasper]

I dislike R56. The AI is dumber than vanilla's

Turns on historical: 10 civil wars

Kaiserredux has fun meme paths, but some people dislike wacky alt history paths

[summer rivet]

anarchist spain by niether anarchist nor spain

[silent patrol]

Is there a secret path here?

[thick edge]

36 manpower 😭

[thick edge]

No

I think

[drifting star]

Prolly something cut

Just like the SS going to Facist iran if oppose hitler is taken

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[digital pumice]

thats before coring everything

cuz obv occupation

[fresh cedar]

Ultimately I think TOA was “better” not necessarily because the content or focuses. But because the region it took place is full of minor powers so you were able to expand and become a major without starting WW2 right away. This DLC is sort of the opposite. Like yes you can have some expansion but most of what you need is owned by majors

Think a diplomacy rework could benefit this a lot. Still fun though

[dusk mist]

being able to whitepeace would be great

like if you inflict enough casualties and the war is over land they don't care too much about

make claims and what you are wargoaling useful too

[fresh cedar]

White peace, limited wars, regional wars, maybe wars that’s don’t call in an entire faction that require escalation to do so

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[dusk mist]

yeah, that kind of stuff

[fresh cedar]

Like how this Japan lost 10 mil in the Horn of Africa

[dusk mist]

my gosh

well japan it kinda makes sense that they wouldn't surrender

but casualties should change surrender limit

or surrender progress

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[dusk mist]

and then you can have national spirits and focuses to counteract that

[fresh cedar]

Don’t want it to get too complicated but perma world wars is getting wild 😂

Like if an AI claimed a single state, why do they need to wipe me out and expend 30% of their population to do so?

[harsh hull]

Another curious thing about this update

Is that Burma has gone from a population of apprx. 15 million in-game

To about 9 million

Where did those 6 million Burmese nationals go, Paradox

What does this mean

[fresh cedar]

A few nations had manpower tweaked

[fresh cedar]

Do we truly know how much burma had?

[harsh hull]

Census data in 1936 Burma is limited, but modern Myanmar has an approximate population of 60 million today

So take that for what you will

[stable tusk]

Apparently 17 million people lived in Burma in 1939 but this is from a website that doesn't cite where that number came from

[dusk mist]

wikipedia lists 16 million

although that seems to come from this site...

https://web.archive.org/web/20150223080259/http://www.populstat.info/

not exactly the most trustworthy i'd say

[harsh hull]

Ah, here we go

[dusk mist]

that seems pretty good

[harsh hull]

So the pre-update numbers were more correct

[dusk mist]

15-16 million seems to be about right then

[harsh hull]

So again, Paradox

Where did those 6 million Burmese go

[dusk mist]

unless they have some better source we are unaware of ig

[thick edge]

Burmanese ski resort

[dusk mist]

Found em!

[fresh cedar]

Wonder why it was lowered so much

[harsh hull]

https://www.networkmyanmar.org/ESW/Files/1931-Census-Report.pdf

[dusk mist]

don't worry, they're having a great time

[harsh hull]

And now I have to study the actual 1931 census to figure out where to add apprx. 6 million population back into a video game

[solid gyro]

Transnistria during winter

[worn depot]

Is this worth it? like is there anything you get after the civil war?

[fresh cedar]

Idek I did it but didn’t notice anything massive

Was hoping a formable or something

Or even a hidden tree

[drifting star]

Prolly was cut

[fresh cedar]

You’d think another civil war would lead to something

[thick edge]

Massive…?

[fresh cedar]

Like a formable or secret path with buffs

[proud basin]

what do i do here I'm independant

[solid gyro]

U know what else is massive

[thick edge]

It was a joke 😭

[elder fjord]

From the new dlc, which one has the most potential to be strong?

[digital pumice]

peak writing in the new dlc

[pseudo mulch]

I've tried a couple of paths

Maybe I need to re-learn the game but I couldn't make a successful push into enemy territory

9/1 is the new meta right?

[fresh cedar]

My bad busy with work scattered brained

[fresh cedar]

Probably India

[shy hornet]

is this dlc made by ai?

[safe plover]

another dumb bug

[safe plover]

no ai wouldnt just copy old stuff from other focuses, its just rushed and poorly made

[shy hornet]

lovely ?

same thing

Army

Incredible Army

[safe plover]

the amount of grammer mistakes and finished sentences is quite funny

[safe plover]

well the one for command power is just better lmao

[shy hornet]

obv

[native echo]

In the game files, the Iraqi music is labeled as Iranian as well

Not sure if it is a swedish thing, but a focus comment had the word Turkic as "turkik" too

[digital pumice]

its like the dlc wasnt playtested at all

[fresh cedar]

It apparently was

[digital pumice]

doesnt look like it

[fresh cedar]

Allegedly some youtubers got it 2 weeks ago and it was much rougher then.

[digital pumice]

the most obvious thing was french puppets not being transfered to vichy

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it needed another couple weeks in the oven lol

[digital pumice]

like how do you not foresee that

[harsh hull]

Well, first of all, HOI4 code is a mess

[digital pumice]

also aghanistan communist tree gives you a generic leader

[harsh hull]

You can never anticipate everything, because you don't know where all the relevant code is

[fresh cedar]

No Persian empire formable, new puppets don’t change leader, color or name with ideology or even after becoming free. No transfer to Vichy. War plan bug where war plans don’t move so can’t take territory. White peace not working

TOA seemed much more polished.

Looking forward to patches

[harsh hull]

But honestly, I think y'all didn't do enough expectation management

[digital pumice]

yes you can, we are talking about a very obvious thing

[safe plover]

then dont fing release it

[digital pumice]

they needed to do at least 1 historical playtest to notice it

[fresh cedar]

Is it a high expectation to have a polished product? Past DLC’s have been much moreso

And considering the hike in DLC price, I’d expect quality to reflect

[harsh hull]

It's a side content DLC made by Paradox's B-team on an obviously smaller budget

[fresh cedar]

Not saying the paths or content itself is bad. Think it’s fun. But I want something to work as intended lol

[digital pumice]

a unpaid modder going through university can do better, cmon dont try to defend them

[harsh hull]

I'm not defending them

[fresh cedar]

Idk Trial of allegiance was by them too and I think it was extremely fun on release and ran into way less bugs

[harsh hull]

I'm saying I wasn't expecting much

The Burma population thing was a bit annoying though

Forget the coding, that's just sloppy maths

[fresh cedar]

They made a conscious decision to change the Burma pop no?

From the historical amount to its 1890 numbers lol

[harsh hull]

Well they split Burma's 2 states into 9 states, then didn't portion out the population numbers appropriately

So they lost 6 million population

[fresh cedar]

Hopefully these things will be fixed in a patch

[edgy sorrel]

what will the next dlc be?

hopefully britian, japan, usa rework

[thorn talon]

That's 3 dlcs worth of content 💀

[harsh hull]

Considering Burma's a starting nation now, and Siam just got a unique national spirit

It's looking like the Co-Prosperity Sphere DLC is next

Japan, Siam, Burma at least, and then maybe Mengukuo (Japanese puppet) and Malaysia (invaded and occupied by Japan/Siam)

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[safe plover]

you trigger a famine even if u have nothing to do with myanmar

this fricking dlc has more bugs then skyrim had

[harsh hull]

But what Country Pack do we pair "The Rising Sun" with, if it weren't the "Every China tag" pack?

[proud basin]

what does the opium trade focus do? as eitc

[wary spade]

20 stab sacrificed for less consumer goods

like a lot of consumer goods, 20 or 30% I don't remember

[marble bane]

hey does anyone know

why i cant verify in the EaW discord server?

[proud basin]

I meant the third opium war focus it says a global opium trade will appear. does this do anything or is it just an easter egg

[royal marten]

So whats up with the dlc

I did consider buying it at first but eh

[terse viper]

I got it

[proud basin]

its alright I just got the expansion pass, probably not worth it until it goes on sale latewr

[royal marten]

That pie chart doesn’t look very democratic 😑

Like I’ve seen complaints that it has a lot of bugs

Even more than the average dlc

[terse viper]

hahaha yes i was using console

[proud basin]

It's probably better to wait for a bug patch or 3 and maybe a sale

[livid pecan]

is it true that paradox used AI for some of their portraits? i remember seeing the art dev diary and thinking some of them were suspicious as hell

[royal marten]

Idk if its ai

The art direction just seems worse

[royal marten]

Real

[jovial flower]

my problem with the art direction is not that it looks bad, its not awful but the fact half the world uses the old art style

while the other uses the new one

is bothering me

[royal marten]

I like the old one more and yes it is annoying

[crude jolt]

Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Siam, burma, Malaya, (maybe indochina) major expansion with a large alliance system rework

[royal marten]

It’s very smooth

[livid pecan]

i don't think they should make any more country packs for countries that are focused on colonialism until there is a significant rework of the occupation mechanics and resistance/compliance systems

[frank hamlet]

nah this is a joke i cap india and burma and i got like nothing bruh

[pure nexus]

Does anyone know how to get Qajar or Khomeini as leaders in Iran?

[warped prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-pawn-star-20bucks-the-best-i-can-do-the-best-i-can-do-is20bucks-gif-15253458

[frank hamlet]

this is a big scam

i think i will continue making my shah mod or change something in this dlcs trees

[royal marten]

This has to be bait

[harsh hull]

Hm... I wonder how this affects the French union focus, now that Syria is a starting tag

[livid pecan]

it's kinda crazy how you can just completely solve the kurdish resistance as iraq with 15 command power and two weeks

[frank hamlet]

turkey needs to learn

[royal marten]

Turkey was born too early in the powercreep cycle

[livid pecan]

but the alternative of having focuses to deal with the kurdish resistance sounds dreadful because you already have such a strict time frame for early game focuses as iraq

[harsh hull]

"I dunno, have you ever tried just chilling out?"

"Damn, you right"

[livid pecan]

you would just have to sit there and tank the debuffs for like a year because the economic focuses take priority

[harsh hull]

Alright, looking at the code, it looks like the game will check if an eligible target for the French Union focus is a subject of France first, annex them if they accept, then give cores on their states

Dunno if that's how it was done before, but Syria and Lebanon being starting tags doesn't affect that now at least

Which means the ideal would be to release an African tag, let it form Arabia, puppet it again, then hope RNG is in your favour to get the Franco-Arabian Union

[safe plover]

ur generals get substance abuser trait thats it

[livid pecan]

substance abuser is one of the worst possible traits you can have for a general though

actually now that i think about it, i wonder if substance abuser can give you zero or negative numbers for general stats. it used to be impossible because the only guy who used to have it had at least 3 in every base stat

but now you can get it on generals that have 1/2 for some stats

[coral sentinel]

hey 1 question, can india somehow annex their puppets with decisions or i have to annex them mannualy?

[hollow coral]

I dont think you can

[pure nexus]

They both have portraits in files.

[wary spade]

idk tbh

[safe plover]

i have no words

they couldnt even be bothered to add a single general

[cedar crypt]

Iraq's monarchist path is nice, getting cores on Arabia and such.

[harsh hull]

It's very historical for Burma to not have anything

[tired acorn]

Afghanistan suffers from this too. Especially communist one

[native echo]

Doesn’t afg only start with two generals as well?

3

[tired acorn]

ye

[broken horizon]

I bet 5 braincells next dlc will be burma,siam,mongolia dlc

[royal marten]

Japan-China reword coming next I hope

[broken horizon]

China get turn into more smaller warlords nations would be fun

I shall pray for day when tannu tuva gets a tech tree(it will never happen)

[cosmic falcon]

I predict that a Japan rework will be the next DLC.

[broken horizon]

We shall see only time will say

If japan rework happens i better hope u can balkanise japan then

[cerulean cipher]

Yes Japan and France need a big rework
The question is when ? 6/8 months ?

[burnt sail]

Prolly early November

[hollow coral]

japan first probably since france still needs to be integrated into base game

[plush merlin]

how do i get abd al-ilah?

[stable tusk]

Wait for Ghazi to die, get the guy to make a regency, and make him take over

[safe plover]

peace in our time

[lean stirrup]

Bro i revolted and got 100+ divisions💀

[cedar crypt]

You get a event after doing the focus where you assassinate the general where you can either empower Abd al-liah or stick with the constitutional monarchy.

[lean stirrup]

Bro ireland has been surving for a year how??

[cedar crypt]

Also got the achievement for forming the Hashemite Arab Federation.

[lean stirrup]

BRUHH

they were stuck in ireland lmao

[drifting star]

So many default characters

[hearty blade]

only issue is that it suffers from having to take all of its cores from european powers

which generally tend to spawn in a more favorable position research, mils and civs wise

[long ruin]

]

what are the requirements for this focus?

(As in for the Raj to accept)

[fresh cedar]

They made China much harder to beat

[drifting star]

Forming mughal?

[fresh cedar]

No for Japan, they stack all their divisions in their final points

Played Iran 3 times and Iraq 3 times on ahistorical. In every one, UK invaded me. Sadly these two just aren’t even playable till a patch releases

[frail trench]

• play india
• one of your territories breaks away
• a french division shotguns there and kills them, getting all the warscore
• they whitepeace with them

devs really need to patch a few things lol

just taskmanagered it and fixed it but damn bro

[strong grail]

is this achievement broken?

[frail trench]

you might need to control burma but idk

probably is broken, seems to be a lot of stuff that is this update

[lean stirrup]

Sadly

it added my new fav vannila paths

but its buggy and janky

sadly

[trim onyx]

Please god… don’t rework france before usa… please…

[drifting star]

Wow just wow

Remember we paid for this

[trim onyx]

Idk about yall but im having fun

its pretty buggy but after those are fixed I think it’ll be one of my favorite dlcs

[drifting star]

They also removed the Shia political branches

[hearty blade]

Good old lily

Even typo’d on aneurysm

[kindred beacon]

New DLC definitely has some problems

• Afghanistan commie path has a random leader.
• Iraq's Kurdish route keeps you as Iraq when there is already a Kurdistan tag in game. It makes zero sense for Kurdish separatists to not only get cores on all of Iraq from like 3 focuses and a cw but also put their capital in Baghdad

• tons of bugs

[mental onyx]

waiting for the massive bug fixes in a week

[polar jasper]

Wait, commie Afghanistan leader is a generic?

[kindred beacon]

• Iranian general roster includes generals who were in reality Azeri separatists that fought for the soviets, they should only appear for the commie branch. On the other hand many actual senior military officers are not present

[kindred beacon]

Yeah

Not just missing portrait, he is a random leader

Complete el generico

[polar jasper]

Ah, I thought generics at least gave leader traits

My guy has nothing

Spent a year in a civil war to find out my guy isn't even real

Give me 10 years and I can flip democratic without going to civil war

[kindred beacon]

I get no generals for like Kuwait but I think Burma and Palestine should have historical British officers assigned there

[kindred beacon]

Also as India, idk if this was intended but you can very easily gain independence by cutting your garrisons and having princes rebel

[polar jasper]

I've seen that actually

You gain a lot of autonomy taking provinces

[kindred beacon]

Because gaining warscore causes puppet autonomy to skyrocket you can easily achieve independence before the start of ww2 and the cost of likely getting an early famine

Famine tanks your stability but this is actually beneficial for the strategy since low stability increases resistance

[polar jasper]

And resistance gives autonomy?

[kindred beacon]

No, it makes your occupied territories rebel more quickly

[kindred beacon]

Resistance makes the princely states rebel

Crushing those rebellions gives you war score which earns you tons of autonomy

[polar jasper]

Ah

Challenge: become independent and not blow up into civil war

[kindred beacon]

Intentionally dragging out rebellions to cause a famine makes the strategy even better

[polar jasper]

Independent in 1946

[kindred beacon]

Because famine tanks stability and low stability increases resistance target which makes the princes rebel more quickly

[polar jasper]

What is PDX teaching us?

Starving people bring freedom

[kindred beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

Gandhi to the Bengali population after deciding non-violence just wasn't worth it

[polar jasper]

Holy smokes, PDX really saying violence is the answer

[kindred beacon]

(they needed to die for those autonomy points)

[drifting star]

It’s a war strategy game

[trim quartz]

Same. I like it, but that’s just because I’m a sucker for paradox’s slop dlc’s. There are a lot of aspects that should have been added, and quite a lot of content is either missing or completely broken

The fact that I can’t get Jordan, Palestine, and Syria but not Lebanon is annoying

Also Syria and Lebanon don’t transfer over to Vichy France either I believe

[polar jasper]

Yeah, they don't
Oops

I always enjoyed seeing Britain lose Suez when Vichy joined the war

[trim quartz]

Exactly. And if I was playing as Vichy France (for god knows why) it was an easy way to help out Italy

[wise oxide]

will there be a quick patch soon?

[mental onyx]

PLS. The dlc makes me think TOA is a masterpiece.

Hell, toa's release was way better than this

[worn depot]

Just did the timurid focus and apparently I guess your name doesnt actually change to the timurid empire, very disappoiting tbh

[stable tusk]

Yeah they transfer to Free France now

[jovial merlin]

Huh

That is odd, there was historically an invasion there am I right?

Same goes for that island near Canada, also transfers to free, but should be vichy

Did they adjust some focuses to basegame Raj? I dont remember the dockyard focuses getting 2 dockyards each

But now they do

[wise oxide]

why?

[mental onyx]

TOA had way less bugs. The only major problem it had was power creep.

[wise oxide]

i had 0stability and war support as mughal empire and got bad mutinies -75% attack

i was wondering why i cant kill 1 encircled division😭 only the elephants had op stats my normal div did like 11soft and elephant 100-200

[wise oxide]

communist britain btw😑 fix this (ts)

against communit india too

[sharp tundra]

Are the bad reviews on steam come from Chinese bots ? The dlc is awesome

[safe plover]

Dude are u ill? This is the most bugged dlc ever and a lot is unfinished

[hollow coral]

pakistan still dont got unique portraits

saddest part

palestines fascist leader is bugged and doesnt show up

mysores leader is also bugged and doesnt show up

[safe plover]

It should have gotten a focus tree. Seeing how poorly researched and how a lot of it is just copied i dont think any country would take more then a week for a single modder

[hollow coral]

generic spies for india and afghanistan (only one i have played so far) have east asian portraits still

generics for the rest of india, bangladesh, princely states, sri lanka and maldives also have generic east asian portraits

that just ruins it for me tbh

[safe plover]

They didnt even add a single india formable

Why cant u form india as a princerly state???

Like as sikkim for example

[hollow coral]

sikkim dont have a leader

[safe plover]

Yeah

[hollow coral]

should of had this guy

[safe plover]

That this garbage costs more then 5 bucks is fraud

[hollow coral]

im fine with it tbh but it just rlly buggy and a lot of stuff just breaks the immersion

they also decided to add a leader for goddamn bukhara

which would have been fine if they werent lazy and added some leader portraits for the rest of the princely states

[safe plover]

No , any god damn modder/team would have done a better job and pdx would have only needed to pay them like 300 bucks

[hollow coral]

cool

[safe plover]

Turkey +++ a mod made by a single dude has more focuses for 1 fricking country then this entire dlc

[solid gyro]

Is this mod for vanilla and does it require bftb

[quick sleet]

Had no fun with fascist Afghanistan you only get cores on some poor state in Pakistan

[hollow coral]

Was it just me or was the civil war a drag

Also flag is ass

[storm pike]

Truthnuke

Best dlc since ever!

[hollow coral]

So i changed it to the emirate pf afghanistan flag

[hollow coral]

Its not the worse

Its also a country pack so i cant rlly complain

[safe plover]

Makes no sense fascist afg leader isnt islamist at all

He was quite the modernizer and more or less kemalist

Which also shows how stupid pdx is bc why tf would u loose the turkish military advisors

[fresh cedar]

This is how I feel. Bugs have ruined every game of mine so far so I may just wait

[quick sleet]

💯

[plucky crag]

Because islam rejects nationalism

[fresh cedar]

Look I’m one of the biggest supporters of HOI4 probably, having played since release, bought every dlc and followed dev diaries/updates for many years. And I can say that this is by far the least polished release they’ve had. Love the content itself and looking forward to playing it more, but it’s unplayable in its current state.

[trim onyx]

yeah, plus once rt56 gets their compatibility dlc out and maybe adds a little extra content it will be amazing

[fresh cedar]

Agreed. Kinda makes me sad that mods are more stable atm

[trim onyx]

Agreed

[hollow coral]

Honestly just a lot of bugs and balancing that needs to be done

[safe plover]

Complete reworks need to happen tbh

Like communist iran , india and add one to iraq

[cobalt jay]

Nah TOA was worse

[fresh cedar]

Not even remotely lol.

When TOA released, I had many games without bugs and genuinely had a fun time. Every single playthrough I’ve had in GOE has had gamebreaking bugs that ruined my playthrough. (Have tried 8 games)

[cobalt jay]

TOA trees were absolutely broken on release and still kinda are

Like its incredibly dumb that the best nation for planes in the game is Brazil

[fresh cedar]

I’d rather have balance issues than bugs that legit eat an entire run every game

Afghanistan and India are sorta playable but Iraq and Iran are so cooked from bugs atm

[dense gale]

This is worse because its even less balanced than toa lol

Plus its also lower effort

And more buggy

Its worse in pretty much every way

[last lance]

I guess someone forgot smth

[fresh cedar]

For real, some countries get like a +35-40% defense on core buffs

[fresh cedar]

That’s what I’m saying

Feels like a lot of content was cut to placate a certain region of the world

[buoyant ore]

cant believe we got a middle east update before china

[lofty creek]

fr

[buoyant ore]

idk what ur implying

[fresh cedar]

China had content legit 7 years before the middleast lol

[buoyant ore]

yes but its heavily outdated

[fresh cedar]

Still worked on release 😂

[fresh cedar]

Idk why people hate on TOA so much.

[thick edge]

Just probably since it’s South America

And it doesn’t have much involvement in ww2

[obtuse wren]

And GOE has a lot of localization bugs. Literally every focus and event

[buoyant ore]

same for GOE and it being in the middle east

[thick edge]

All countries in that dlc except Afghanistan got invaded

[buoyant ore]

i mean true but the campaigns wernt that intresting

i mean its literrally just to link up with the soviets to bring them supply

[twin coral]

Is it any free content in the new dlc? Like we got an update to germanys historical focus tree in the gotterdammerung

[spring zinc]

Every passing hour this DLC seems to get more shit and buggy

Honestly, this is probably the worst DLC ever released by Paradox

Afghanistan communist path gives you a damn generic leader

Even the Aussa path is better than this shit

More things I’ve discovered

The communist India path requires you to be already free to take the focus to break free

[quick sleet]

India democracy is a cancer

[spring zinc]

The constitutional monarchy path for Iran turns you into a republic not a constitutional monarchy

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/X8jR7mWW1p

Whatever the hell this is

All of irans generals aren’t actually historical Iranian generals and most of them are generals that fought against Iran in ww2

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/KeZapDE4ri

[pure schooner]

I dont think they did

[spring zinc]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/X23Lhzy3gl

this focus tree is quite literally unfinished

[quick sleet]

Afghanistan has no man power and factories

[thick edge]

I think that’s just accurate

It’s Afghanistan

Not the USA

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https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/x2OBIM6AGL

just found this as well, stupidly hilarious

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But no potential

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Imo, they should pull the dlc from steam

It’s completely unfinished and shit

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They were need to add focus to all puppet middle east and saudi and then it will worth

[obtuse wren]

I think they just have to refine it.

[spring zinc]

Nah it’s absolute dogshit

If you just scroll through the Hoi4 subreddit

You will find an absurd amount of glithces

Bugs

Poorly made focuses

They need to completely remake this dlc

Found another one

Timurid empire can’t core the Timurid homeland

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I love how the “immortal” divisions is just 6 infantry battalions

[spring zinc]

Also why give the timurid tree to India

[spring zinc]

There’s a glitch with it as well

If you replace all the infantry with tanks

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?

[spring zinc]

And then do another focus

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Ohhhhhhhh

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It will give you all of those divisions as tanks

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I mean that happened with the last dlc too

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https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/kPkcaWMQhw

Oooh

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Austrian militia

[spring zinc]

Iraqs leader is a dog

Like literally

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/kPkcaWMQhw

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has anyone figured out any secret path yet?

[spring zinc]

There’s a secret path for Iran

That can only be done

If Greece formed Byzantium

That’s just bullshit

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wow ok, so it never happens

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ITS bs

[spring zinc]

This is by far the worst peace of content paradox has ever released for any game ever

[fresh cedar]

And it’s not entirely even the content really. Like the paths and goals are interesting. The bugs are just so painful

[spring zinc]

Yeah

And typos

[fresh cedar]

Had it released polished and stable, would’ve been top country pack imo

[spring zinc]

Like what the hell js this meant to mean

[fresh cedar]

Unique goals, units, trees

[safe plover]

yes the communist india tree requires u to be independent to become independent via foucs, and the focus to annex the princes only gives u them as advisiors u dont actually annex them

[fresh cedar]

Pretty much every path has a gamebreaking bug like that

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And that’s not something we should consider normal

Do they not play test their own games

They are making us pay to play test their game

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Protest about this maybe they will change something

If all the community will unite against it

[spring zinc]

But people will always buy the dlc

So they’ll carry on pumping out shit knowing people will buy it

It’s sad

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I got it from the pass

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bs

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i sadly bought the expansion pass, i will never buy a dlc again

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That's bad

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Same

[fresh cedar]

They did playtest for like 3-4 week

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this shit is worse then bethseda dlcs

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Just wonder if there needs to be potentially more playtesting

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absolute bullshit

u mean they have never played to 39???

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YouTubers got it about 2 weeks before release and said devs had tested it for a few weeks prior to that too

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I genuinely want to see what their testing consisted of lol

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just bc someone said it, doesnt mean its true

[spring zinc]

They clearly didn’t

[fresh cedar]

Do the new puppets even change leader, color or name if free and ideology changes

[spring zinc]

No

[fresh cedar]

It’s so bad 😂

It sucks because the paths and gameplay could be insanely fun if it just worked

[safe plover]

They havent tested it, facts, every single playthrough of the new paths has bugs in it

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True

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What's most destroyed it for you

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I tried to rebuild the cut code for Afghanistan and I have a theory, they abandoned all the realistic or too controversial paths for memes

[fresh cedar]

1. UK invades Iraq and Iran no matter what. You could be neutral, avoid war, appease them, they still invade 95% the time even on ahistorical.

2. Battle plan glitch involving the new puppets. Sometimes your battle lines lock to their initial borders so you legit can’t push them, acts like territory you’re not at war with.

3. Afghan generic leader

4. Names/leaders not changing properly

IMO as the community we should compile a detailed and comprehensive list of bugs to facilitate a patch

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5. Half of afgan focuses cut

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1 agreed 2 agreed 3 agreed 4 idk

[fresh cedar]

I assume it had to do with the Silk Road

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Sometimes leaders won’t change correctly. Like ideology will flip and they stay the same despite the ideology showing a different name

[drifting star]

No, turko Persian empire, Islamic caliphate for whole world , golden age Afghanistan etc

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Happened with Afghanistan

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Bahai global revolution

[fresh cedar]

Happens with the new puppets too

[waxen axle]

Alright guys i need help to win the civil war as communist afghanistan

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Also Iraq got a Shia focuses path cut

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It's so bad

[fresh cedar]

These are definitely things that I had wanted

[drifting star]

It’s in the source code commented out

Close to 15 focuses

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That sucks what the heck

I know they were worried about further controversy following the Silk Road/tibet debacle. But that really bums me out

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They must rework all the dlc

It happened in the past?

[fresh cedar]

I had paid for the expansion after seeing the potential paths. Having a few cut makes me feel a little cheated

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💯

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Like imagine buying a sandwich just to have some ingredients taken out. Still gonna eat it but isn’t as good as it could’ve been

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I got you from first

That's a robe

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I think I’ll just write down every bug I run into to send over the forums

[waxen axle]

Guys

need help

with civil war

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What’s up

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Everyone needs

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agreed

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Would you be able to DM me cut content

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Wtf

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Same

[fresh cedar]

Thanks!

[drifting star]

Also the Indian East Briton company for some reason gets cores on Iran

That’s a formable by the way

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Islamic caliph whole world was a plan?

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Whole Islamic world

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Now it's just middle east and west

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They don’t get cores on anything except parts of Central Asia and Pakistan

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I meant Iraq

[drifting star]

Iraq had a Shia unification path

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Central asia is not just puppet?

For Afghanistan

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Why they disabled it

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And iran turko persian?

[drifting star]

In the amnallah path you can create the turko Persian empire if you declare yourself the protector of the Bahai faith

[terse viper]

we should get this info to paradox somehow

bcs dlc is rushed

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hah its now overwhelmingly negative

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Ohh

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Understood it also today

They must change it everyone hate

[drifting star]

If you commit to following Islam you can gain the endorsement and approval of Islamic world to unite its divided lands

“Pashtun caliphate “

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Now thats shit

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Pretty weak

RN

[drifting star]

There also seems to imply that ex ottoman officers would join you through a focuses called recruit foreign officers

[terse viper]

this could have been a very great dlc

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Fascist Afghanistan is a shit noe

W

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Of course

[terse viper]

is there a option to tell paradox to rework the dlc? (even tho thy wont)

[pure schooner]

Lily comments lol

[drifting star]

I would have waited an extra month for these paths cuz they are actually peak

They are ridiculous but fun ridiculous

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that makes no sense amanullah was a kemalist